Linus Doesn't Want a Copilot
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Microsoft releases Copilot AI for Windows 11.
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best part was someone logging into steam via steam QR
Candied Anus was the real mvp.
ikr lol@@zacuax7272
Worst part was Linus showing that he is deep into his journey of turning into a boomer
I saw it coming
@@joeandjoeable123needs to be a standalone comment
Luke wants to interact with Copilot as if he know's it's broken and Linus wants to interact with Copilot as if he's grandpa and knows nothing.
And it's gonna be Grandpa/Grandma that's constantly bugging their kids because the "Co-Pilot" doesn't know how to do basic things that a "Co-Pilot" should be able to do.
"Change power profile to Battery Saver"
"I'm sorry Dave, I cannot do that..."
I completely understand why Microsoft chose to have Copilot confirm yes or no. They went with the Apple method in which they were concerned someone could remote in and quickly change their system settings and hack their computer. It's just an additional layer of protection. Some may hate it, some may like the extra step, and some won’t care.
@@Will-Wturning into Siri
It’s funny how much luke is defending something that sucks right now just because he likes AI.
@@zacharycarter2660He wasn't really defending it though, just said it's not the way it's designed to be used (in its current state), and that it sucks right now.
15:05 the funniest part of this video is that a random viewer logged into steam using the QR code provided by steam.
lol
Thank you for the timestamp
Have you seen the username that logged in?
🤣🤣
15:38
yeah shows linus is not fit to be called a tech guy.
if anything its luke. but i would of told linus asap. to log that account out. and be more carefull of the rando qr login.
That response to the disable WiFi request is so bad I can't stop laughing. It gave 3 conflicting answers, one in which it misunderstood what you wanted to do and claimed it can change it for you but requires you to click a button to confirm, one in which it misunderstood and opened the app for you to do it yourself, and one in which it understood but told you it can't do it, and it showed all three at once. That's 3 strikes from one prompt.
Linus totally is the customer every developer tries in vain to foolproof their software for xD
Rightfully so honestly. This copilot is underwhelming especially after what Microsoft showed us
Definitely. Just look at when he attempted Linux and constantly made insane mistakes. He is absolutely not a smart computer user. 😂
usres who are technically savvy enough to think they know how to use advanced features but don't actually know how to use them are the most dangerous users
he does literally what i would expect a windows ai to do. It's super cumbersome and useless for this stuff, but it SHOULD be able to do things if it's crowbared into windows.
@@cagycee5296 Yeah, to be honest I really don't want more AI crap crammed into the OS. I think AI can do a lot of good for society, but I'm sick of computers trying to guess what I want so much. I might play with it a bit first, but will very likely just disable it in the end.
Unless Microsoft makes a miraculous turn-around with this "AI" tool, it's going to bomb possibly harder than Cortana. Until then it's just another thing for me to immediately remove from my taskbar.
"Linus is not using it as intended", when the AI tool heard "wi-fi" and brings up bluetooth as the primary result, it doesn't matter if Linus is using it as intended or not, the tool is clearly broken.
Gets hacked and has a major disruption to multiple main channels.
Shows QR code on live stream and lets random viewer log in remotely.
Love it.
That's LTT content right there
time stamp pls
@@pj2jGz354XTReAB 13:58
@@pj2jGz354XTReAB umm, watch the entire video like the rest of us and you'll work it out.
@@pj2jGz354XTReAB 14:52
I'm so glad we spent all these years perfecting the Graphical User Interface just to go back to operating a computer via text input. That doesn't even do what you input. Yay.
We perfected user interfaces with text. Unless you're interacting with visual media a text interface is probably ideal. For example my audio player of choice is cmus, partly because I can log in to the hardware from any device with ssh and change the music, from across the world if I really wanted, without cmus having to be built with network connectivity functions. No vnc or whatever other messy crap required either.
@@tappy8741 most people just have a media player that plays their downloaded music without the need for an ssh login...
Just another telemetry feature I'll need to use powershell to remove...
😂
The irony
there will come a time where even poweshell wont save you. Plus it's no guarantee it's fully saving you now given that Windows is closed source
@@ent2220 I guess when that time comes I’ll delete my windows partition and switch over to manjaro full time
Its less a copilot and more of a passenger in the back row googling on his phone and yelling up suggestions
It makes total sense that it requires mouse confirmation, because the odds of it misunderstanding and losing all your work is high. The day that AI can fully interact with everything without user interaction is going to be a bad bad day as imagine the exploits this could open up.
Sure the powershell argument, but you already have to give powershell permission to do things, it has a different trust level.
To me, the Powershell argument linus made is a false equality.
Powershell is made for running scripts and nothing else. This kind of implies: "You should know how to read the scripts before you execute it" (implying, for poweruser)
You shouldn't use or restrict Powershell the same way you would with a UI tools meant for every user on a platform.
But then why even have it in the first place? Either you need to use the mouse anyway, negating any voice-activation benefit or if you allow it to confirm by voice it could misinterpret that as well
after watching this, maybe AI assistant isn't worth the hype at all, the tier dropped into a fancy toy like NFT.
i'll only use AI to ask a basic question or recite something from API documentation,
otherwise, i would rather not using AI at all, talking to AI is like talking to a brick.
and after the hype died, i caught myself using plain google more than using AI chat.
while you're not wrong, ain't no way people will find this easier than doing what they've already been doing
@@jensenraylight8011I think a big part of switching back to google for most is that ai just got dumber as time went on. It cant answer basic questions anymore.
You know this show is lit when WANs individual clips last as long as some other full podcasts 😅😅😅
Microsoft's developers should be made to sit and watch this entire video. Will make it better.
They don't give a fuck, bud
As someone who has worked in software and game QA, Linus is doing exactly what needs to be done here. Luke has the developer hat on, but Linus is 100% acting like a regular user, typing things like a typical user, etc...
And most people are not power users who will not use a thing as intended, or at least partially so. So these things DO need to be ironed out.
I don't want AI integration in Windows, and as a paying customer since Win95, I think it's fair I have a vote, as small as it is... But we're past that, so oh well. Might as well make it as good and robust as possible if they expect people to use it.
Linus is beta testing the stupid copilot, Luke is trying to save his ass after the drama of the last month.
Yeah I try to get people at my company to understand this when we're near releasing new software... they think I'm being OCD or perfectionist but I try to teach them that users are not the same as software devs
I have to disagree. Luke realized that this version of the software is not the same as the article/video the reacted. So it cannot be held to that standard. MS is not made the video about this version of the software. They made the video about the newer one which is not published in the Windows preview program.
Yeah linus is doing the dumb user testing. On a different software. We do this too. We show videos about features what are not published into the current demo app. But they can try out the current version so they can give feedback. And if someone is looking for the features from the video we tell him that is an in development version of the software and the feture is not finished yet. Usually they understand it but they don't need to nake content out of it.
It's not same version so the "QA Beta testing" argument is not valid. Once it's the right version then we can discuss how ironed out the version is and how it's being used.
But this is a preview build, regular users don't download and test previews. They just use the end product. I think Luke is the one who is correct here. You can bet your ass if someone had made a video with a pre-release version of the LTT screwdriver Linus would blast it all over social media claiming that it is not representative of the final product and that they are being misrepresented for clicks.
Why the hell do you need a large language model for the most basic computing tasks. Wtf Microsoft
Gotta love these two
Lukes inner thoughts... We just went through that huge review issue didn't post for a week and some days. We need to word things correctly because people will latch on to everything we say because people are idiots and don't want to do their own research!!!
Linus and Dan...I don't see a problem with what we're saying lol
The CO pilot seems to be just a combination of a search engine and Cortana essentially. It's a way to help with accessibility if you know enough this isn't going to be useful for you because you already know how to access this stuff faster.
While I can also understand needing the user to click yes and confirm that you want to do whatever it thinks you're trying to tell it to do in case of the event it misinterprets what you are telling it to do
at the same time I feel if I typed in a command asking it to do a specific task that should be taken as me confirming/consenting to making the change/apply the setting automatically
Any problems with applying a setting or changing something could be accounted for by just putting a prompt asking to keep the change or revert back like how when you change a display setting
But again it's more accessibility if you know how to do this you could just do it yourself faster and then you don't have to go through all these extra steps
Plus it's silly that you can't say yes or no by speech or typing Yes or no
The problem is that it's not advertised as an accessibility feature and barely does anything more that the current search bar does.
I was with Luke on this one for until Linus made the comparison with a video game and I changed my mind and I agree with Linus. So many times a game that is published is nothing like what trailers showed because the game was altered and most importantly significantly cut down in content and features cause they ran out of time to iron it out, and them releasing a preview makes it look like it's likely to be this type of a scenario.
I don't think copilot can work the way Microsoft wants it to without it being a massive problem. Microsoft wants you to be able to ask it questions about your own data but then that would require Microsoft having access to that data, and with ChatGPT literally leaking other people's information when asked it would be an IT disaster. "Hey CoPlilot, what is my IT bosses password?" *looks in every file on the network and in the Microsoft cloud and spits out the password because it was posted one time in Teams 2 years ago in a private chat*
The thing that confuses me most about this CoPilot version is that it doesn't seem any more powerful than the existing search. If I just wanted to be pointed to where the setting is to do a thing, I can do that using the existing tools. So why do I need an LLM trained on stolen data on my computer to do that for me?
So it can steal your data directly from the source. Obvs.
"Can you disable wifi?"
"Sure, I can disable bluetooth"
🥴
This is what kills me about LLMs as they stand, corporations don't trust them to do things themselves because they hallucinate, but until they do they're just a glorified google search, that does some digging/summarizing for you. Yes it will help certain users who don't know how to sift through shitty how to articles, but its honestly not that useful until I can actually tell it to do something and it does it, without some giant paragraph of instructions or a prompt I have to confirm. Why click 'yes open file explorer' vs just clicking file explorer.
The venn diagram of people who need an AI assistant to help them organize windows, and people who understand how to effectively use an AI in clear and unambiguous terms, is 2 circles on separate sides of the planet.
It's interesting how evenly split the community is on wether people agree with Linus or Luke. Honestly the state of this software is so horrendous that I don't think it's unreasonable to at the very least raise very valid concerns. And being frank, if a newer build with added functionality DID exist, I don't see why Microsoft wouldn't release that instead of this piece of garbage as their preview candidate. If they released something this bad into the wild it's probably because it's the best they have at the moment, and that's really concerning
Luke just came off sounding overly-defensive of Microsoft which isn't a good look because corporations like Microsoft have long since used up their "benefit of the doubt" allowance.
Of course they're gonna make this copilot thing look waaayyy better on paper than it will actually be in reality, that's been the marketing formula since the dawn of time.
Linus had the right degree of skepticism and an attitude of "put your money where your mouth is Microsoft, or shut the hell up already."
I agree, this seems like something where they both had completely valid viewpoints. It's weird that most of the people on Luke's side seem to think that Linus was oblivious and/or obviously wrong though. Idk, as someone who agrees with Linus on this one, I'd be interested to hear the opinion of someone who agrees with Luke to understand it better.
@@0xTas Luke was angry at Linus because he basically did the same mistake he made with the GPU cooler where he tested it on the wrong GPU then declared the the cooler did not work and was stupid. In this video, he tests the wrong version of Copilot and complains that it does not work as advertised. It's the exact same problem.
Now, I agree that the version they are testing is terrible and completely useless. But it isn't the same version as in the article.
just as fucked as cortana was. i still get the message : cortana is not supported in this country.
like the hell was the point of cortana. only to be replaced by chat gpt 0.1 bing edition.
1:58 Luke's reaction is exactly what I wanted to see. Also, I agree with Linus here...
- Company releases a video promoing their new thing
- Company releases a preview build of said thing
- Preview build doesn't do what the video says that this thing will do
How is this a bad thing? Like... it's a preview build, right now if it doesn't do something, that's still valid.
them talking about quick confirmations in text boxes was very funny to me... in a CLI tool it would just be "Y/n" and default to yes if you hit enter. easy to confirm quickly, still presents you a choice, and easy to cancel, all on keyboard.
MS isn't a fan of good ideas from the past
it better have keyboard controls, all I want it to do is handle mouse-specific actions so I can keep my hands on the keys 😂
Linus was particularly frustrating this episode and luke clearly felt it too
He often is. Luke is always the voice of reason, wanting to do a good, accurate job and everyone is just laughing cause it's all a joke
yeah, there are days when you just burned out, and everything is aggravating,
it happens to everyone
Linus is becoming that boomer that doesn't understand how user interfaces work
@@mildsoup I mean, the user interface for that AI is absolute shit when it can't do basic things without needing the user to do basically do everything themselves.
I would just like Linus to show us how to uninstall it
also for people wondering just installed the new update just now and copilot is the same as the one in the video it just has the voice and image upload features you ask it to do something and you have to press yes and then it opens it but if you ask it to open a specific setting it will either take you to setting or get confused and it still saids preview
So they've basically made a prettier but far less useful Command Line that you still need to confirm every step and thing you're asking it to do? Versus moving your mouse across the screen and double-clicking.
See this is the comment I was looking for. This is a clip of a podcast that came out a week ago, not sure why people are still acting like Microsoft still has 4 more days to send out a magic version lol. I really think Linus was right on the money in that the issues are design decisions and unlikely to go away.
@@MrPyroguy108 Would it really be that strange if MS had screwed up and let people preview a barely functional prototype version instead of a release candidate? I've seen stranger - and more stupid - things come out of MS.
Microsoft screwed up in any case, but it's important to criticize the right thing. Luke was guarding against the very real risk of publicly judging the wrong version of a product. It would've been a different story if they knew for sure that their version was the correct preview.
@@Xehlwan The point of my comment is more addressing the people who still seem to be acting as if the software is gonna release with something better. It's been a week, the release they talk about in the video came out.
Also, to a degree yeah I do think it would be that strange. And most of Linus' complaints are, as he said, design decisions not code ones. Microsoft is far too large of a company to make rapid changes to that, anything in the works has been in the works for a while and I can't foresee the magic world Luke describes where the software comes out in 4 days and suddenly works completely differently.
This is all a moot point though because as always, it doesn't really matter if you're right if you're being right in an annoying way and if people dislike Linus' attitude then regardless of whether he's correct people will be upset. (fwiw even when I agree I also find the way Linus argues and makes points to be more abrasive that necessary)
It's nice to see the only update they did to Cortana was give it a new name. Actually I take that back. Didn't Cortana have a voice input so it could not work even better than copilot?
Bing Chat has voice input, so it's likely to get speech-to-text on release.
Copilot is kinda entirely different to Cortana, its great for looking up news roundups, summarising webpages, etc. etc. but not too great at interacting with your actual OS
I feel like the copilot stuff is basically bringing us back to the terminal days, but even more arcane because there isn’t even any commands to memorize to make it do what you want.
Memorizing specific commands, or spells, would be much more arcane than just describing what you want to do. Memorizing spells is like as arcane as it gets, and that's commands.
@@thedancingsousa Except the AI requires incredibly specific language for you to get what you want out of it, so you have to study for years and years without any guide to figure out the precise language to use to get what you want, when before you could just lookup a command list.
@@thedancingsousa aka, even more arcane as it still requires spells, you just aren’t allowed to know what they are beforehand so you have to study the arcane arts.
@@cheeseisgreat24 except you can get reeeeaaaally close with guessing a few times and no prior experience, and before you would get literally nothing if you didn't know the exact sequence of let's and symbols required. As far as looking up command lists, you can also look up ai prompts.
@@thedancingsousa Depends on your definition of “reeeeeeally close” really. After 6 guesses on phrasing I just go straight to doing it myself, there’s no point in trying to find the right incantation when I can manually do it. Plus old machines used to come with a manual of how to input things, these just tell you you can ask it anything however you like and it will get it, when nothing could be farther from the truth.
I was watching this practically praying someone would log in to steam that was great
That title is living rent free in Luke’s head
Luke got super defensive about this being the wrong version, but tbh this feels like when game publishers release a "beta" a couple weeks ahead of launch and people start defending the bugs because its a "beta" and they'll fix it for launch. It's not a "beta", its a demo... there's not enough time before launch to fundamentally change and fix things. This does really feel like Clippy 2.0
Yeah I really don't get the whole "jumping to Microsoft's defense" angle.. Microsoft deserves no benefit of the doubt from anyone. If they're going to claim something, they can be held over a fire until they produce it in proper form, and nobody should ever feel bad about that.
Luke has learned from the org's mistakes. Reviewing a product based on the wrong information isn't really a good thing. If they're looking at marketing and documentation for something like version 11, but they're looking at version 10 and complaining that it doesn't have all the things version 11 has, it's really not a good look.
It’s like Linus didn’t learn anything from the fiasco like a month ago with portraying a product poorly due to him not using it properly…. At least we have Luke here to try to keep them honest 😬
I was thinking the same thing. Luke probably knows that outside of most settings, he can't express frustration without it being seen as hostile . However, on Wan show, he can kind of show more open expression, and it shows his frustration. Honestly, it was really awkward and felt upsetting as linus sat there smug. Okay, we get it linus, your uninterested. At least respect someone interest in messing around with a piece of software. After all, I think most of us in IT learned from being able to play around with random software and hardware to explore it functions.
Luke's trying to avoid another controversy at all costs
Linus is right. If a company releases a news article about some upcoming feature and at the same time (or shortly after) also releases a new beta version, then you have to expect that it should contain the announced features to be able to be tested.
not really
Totally with Linus on this one. Microsoft is not some scrappy startup. They hype up their multi billion dollar Copilot/AI, and then it can't even do the most basic of 1st-party setting changes in the OS? I literally do not see the use case. That should be the bare minimum unit test this preview was tested on, I literally can't imagine anything more "preview" than that.
linus wondering how steam was able to log in as he leaves the login QR code on stream is priceless
not gonna lie, interacting with ai seems like a pain.
"It seems like you're trying to write a comment on UA-cam. Let me help you with that... Click here if you'd like to open file explorer... Great, File explorer is open now!"
It is. The "AI" industry is gonna crash so hard
I really don't see how any of this is useful beyond an accessibility feature.
It takes so much longer to use this than just open the apps by themselves and you'll be downright obnoxious talking to your laptop in public to do everything for you.
Imagine using this in class.
"I really don't see how any of this is useful beyond an accessibility feature." This is basically version 1. If you can't even /imagine/ how it could be more useful down the line, that's a you problem, not an AI problem.
@@im1fadedRobI'd prefer to not create a generation of technologically illiterate people who will use AI to do all their work and thinking.
Nor do I want a future where human creativity is replaced by emotionless, mass-produced AI images.
In it's current form it is good to find settings where you may not know where they are. I can see more advanced usefulness in about 3 or 4 versions from now, but currently yeah basically a better google search result
@@harmarizeI can literally type "Wifi" in the search bar and it will lead me to the Wifi settings, instead of Bluetooth. So what does this AI do differently or better?
@@giglefreakzthat use case is trivial, for complex tasks is were it make sense.
"Copy the photos in a Google Drive Folder called photos and delete the photos from my PC".
"Change my firewall settings and open ports 7000 to 7004, only if secure"
So, Microsoft just made a new Siri that's worse than Siri on release,
after making a new Skype that's worse than Skype,
after making a new Google Search that's worse than Google Search.
Had anyone explained to Microsoft what insanity is?
y'all AI enthusiasts need to keep your powder dry, this shit won't be magic for at least a couple months
LMAO as expected from a Windows product it BARELY functions at all!!!
It's literally just as useful as Cortana
Luke being a software developer is so clear here.
It's a bit rich to excuse it with "it's a preview build" when basically nothing is working properly, or like on the trailer, in the preview.
If the preview is not representative, why even release it?
Exactly! It'd be like getting an early version of a car and realizing that it doesn't even drive. "bUt iT'S nOt tHe FiNaL vErSioN" well if it's still so shitty and nothing like what was expected then why even show it at all?
Works perfectly for MS standards. 10/10 would format C: again
Rename the clip "Luke desperately tries to save LMG again while Linus actively tries to kill it" lol
I disabled copilot as fast as I could, wish I could uninstall it, but there is no option to uninstall this program.
Great. How can I delete it from my system?
Accurate text:The open source AIs did it first!
And open source text AIs are catching up to GPT 3.5 Turbo!
Even if copilot can do what they show in that preview video it's still useless. Anything like opening a window or snapping one can be done with a button press anyway. They're adding the ability to do it after opening up a new window and typing out a sentence and then approving an action. Just so much slower
Funny joke. But Edge is literally the same browser as Chrome. Just pick your choice of data logger.
Same. Deleted everything I could with cortana.
"Windows 10 will be the last windows you need"
Yeah about that.. and no machine learning my habits plz.
I'm worried that the reason that products like Windows infuriate us techies so much is because we all turn off usage analytics. They don't design the product for us :)
@@jong3122 I will be attempting Linux on my next desktop build but I haven't played with it since Ubuntu in 2008-ish.
@@Will-W Yeah I can't believe how functional Linux has gotten for PCs over the years, especially with gaming now that wine/proton has gotten so much better
I remember Windows Search would be kinda functional if you disabled web searches. Still no comparison to Spotlight search on macOS, KRunner on KDE or Search on Gnome. Those are 5 leagues ahead of Windows Search.
Power toys run is pretty good
@@taylrthegreatit kinda shock to me the search powertoys haven't been added to normal windows
It's really sad to see how everyone keeps braging about AI being the future when this is what we keep seeing.
I had access to Opera's AI for a bit and the only thing I asked it was "Can you proofread a segment of my story?". It came gave me an error and then crashed the browser. Now I know Im not a good writer (im a self taught hobbyist writing a very VERY rough draft in my off time at work) but I feel like my writing isn't so bad that the AI crashes BEFORE it even gets to read it.
I've been sayng this to people for a while now, but their are fundimental problems with these so called "AI" or Large Language Models as they are actually called. These things are communicating to us the same way a Dog communicates with us. It doesn't know what you are saying, it just knows when you say that when you say "BAD DOG!" in a very mean way, it shouldn't pee in that spot anymore.
They are being purposely truncated due to emergent abilities (they stop following the censor)
I encourage you to have your dog write an essay. AI probably doesn't "understand" in the same sense that humans do, as computers are pure math machines, and our brains are complex physical systems. But what AI does / can do, as a math machine, is run extremely complex probabilistic models that are refined with thousands of hours of human output and feedback, to essentially guess what do humans think the perfect human would do in the task that I've been given. Because of the raw amount of calculations going into these predictions, probably on the order of at least quadrillions (a few days of cpu cycles for a single cpu), these models get pretty good at making the correct prediction in these circumstances. With better techniques and faster hardware, we could quickly approach extremely competent AI output.
I mean AI had been used for years but in private, after OpenAI released ChatGPT now is a goldrush full of shit products, others that need more time to be functional and others that work but need more processing power to be used for regular people.
@@HatsuneSquidward There's a big disconnect between what AI should do and what it shouldn't touch.
Better spellcheck? Sure. Grammar mistake? Okay. Changing the actual contents of a work? Hell no.
That is going to inevitably lead to every story being made with LLMs to be identical because they will all converge on the same "perfect" story, especially when they start using AI-generated content to train on.
Furthermore, using it to fact check essays is an incredibly stupid thing to do with how much AI still hallucinates and how limited their datasets can be.
@@emmanuelgoldstein3682Large Language Models don't have "emergent" abilities. All it is a large statistical dataset. It's not a brain, it's not amazing, it's just math.
im sure luke makes decent money already, but after this stream he really needs a raise.
I would love to see a Cortana vs Copilot dual...as it stands currently I think Cortana could actually win.
I felt as frustrated as Luke on this one. it is PREVIEW
It was very frustrating watching Linus struggle with using copilot as it was not really intended.
To be fair, if you claim to make some crazy ai copilot feature the average user is going to try these things. If you can't just open a window without being prompted its kind of worthless.
Classic Linus was not thinking as a normal user, and Luke tried to tell Linus about that so many times in the clip.
It tells you to "Ask me anything" though. How are you supposed to interact with it?
"Open chrome" - does nothing
Omg this Linus is really trying hard to use this not the intended way
@@G0A7 Cortana would've just opened Chrome, but now she's gone and we're left with this useless "AI".
I don't want AI directly executing commands in my system but the marketing does clearly show that happening. Engineers: "No we shouldn't do that because if the AI hallucinates a certain way then it could toast the whole system", Marketing: "Wow so Copilot can literally do everything!". I did install the update on my laptop yesterday and it did write a nice little YAML script for Home Assistant. I never learned YAML at all so I just described a somewhat complex automation and it happily wrote the script for me.
The qr code troll cracks me up
For the Tomb Raider question, Linus is in "Precise" mode, which is kinda leaning more towards a stats sort of answer. He'd probably have been more likely to get the answers he wanted if he had done the "Balanced" mode.
Aside from being slow, the Copilot is just a glorifed Edge tab and not a native application with just a minimal amount of OS level integration. This is where we are headed, a Microsoft made Chro...EdgeOS,
Maybe it's not the case but it seems clear to me that the dialogues are very much a design choice to ensure a human is authorizing every action Copilot does, (just listen to Microsoft's earlier announcement of Copilot in Office apps and count how many times they iterate it is the users responsibility to review and take responsibility for what Copilot does) establishing this boundary I think is very appropriate.
Though the prompts could definitely be made better or consolidated when multiple actions are requested.
How can Linus and them not see the issue with the different versions. The version released to the public was obviously older
Task manager access:
1) Ctrl + shift escape
2) Right click task bar > Task manager
3) Ctrl + alt + del > Task manager
I am sure 1 & 2 are easier than 3
Perfect for the Classroom: "COPILOT DELETE ALL FILES!"
yeah the concept of having an AI assistant imbedded in my system able to enact changes doesn't thrill me. people barely want to even sign into microsoft accounts for functionality. it is a bad look for the platform especially if it ends up working how linus thought it would.
luke needs to be introduced to the definition of A/B testing
to me it seems like if cortana had a baby with clippy, and it was powered by bing AI
Wow I remember the unbutchered Cortana performing INFINITELY BETTER at my first launch of windows 10, saying that its just beta is NO EXCUSE for this failure of an AI, since CORTANA WAS A THING that existed, worked and belonged to Microsoft already. Sure it MIGHT get better, before Microsoft kills it like Cortana , BUT WHY does it have to GET BETTER, instead of being good already like Cortana was. And I know that Cortana wasn't an AI , but guess what ? She actually worked at launch, and did things, without asking dumb questions (mostly). And despite that she was considered bad, so what do you call something that is worse then bad ?
Linus is gonna be the first person to be eliminated by the AI overlords
Software development is not a straightforward path. It branches off in different directions and this build may just be one of those branches that's older than the others or lacking features.
I remember siri being particularly useless when it was first unveiled on the 4s. I somehow done see ai taking over anytime soon
Siri was also smarter with math equations using wolfram Alpha. Ask it any math question now and see if it can do anything. IMO Siri has only gotten dumber since release.
I think it’s funny how most people start prompts with „please“
Does the chat work without the internet, or does all the neural processing happen on the computer itself?
And yea it sucks
I feel like I could brute force a more capable digital assistant by manually typing as many prompts as I could think of and having it recognise them individually
while true if elseif elseif elseif...
So, Microsoft is just marketing a much slower way to use Windows. How is using Copilot to open an app faster than just clicking on it yourself?
The Copilots are distinct feature sets and basically if you don't understand the difference then you haven't done the research to discuss the intended use cases, or benefits to give it representational justice. So basically just wind.
I saw the QR code and immediately sighed lol
It's more dangerous than a shell script because it doesn't necessarily do what you tell it to do, but whatever it thinks you wanted it to do or just some random hallucination of something you didn't ask.
feel like some old games acted better than this shit.
and that one space game comes to mind where u talk to this chick over a voice com.
look under the bed!
her: fire the bed? uhm ok.
like jesus. microsoft. it aint that hard.
22:27 They didnt understand Dan imo. Yes its dangerous if Copilot automatically executes anything u ask it to, because its an Ai and Ai can misunderstand us right now. The bluetooth vs wifi thing is a prime example. Imagine it accidently closes all ur Wip windows instead of organizing them...
i want copilot because when i ask questions about a program it just hallucinates features it has
I just can't believe they didn't imagined that putting a QR code on the screem wasn't a good idea XD
Watching Linus use AI tools is like watching a neanderthal play with an iPhone.
the problems they were having without the newest apps probably had something to do with them not having a windows insider build of windows
Some companies that are eager to release features & some companies are slow to release features that work
28:40 HOLY SHIT LINUS MADE ME LOOSE MY SHIT. How does Luke have the patience to not stand up and gtfo
Let me be clear.... I don't want anything pilot on my PC. If even the corpo doesn't do a good job controlling their s....
I hate it when mom and dad is fighting
The return of Clippy!
It'd be interesting if it could take over and make changes to the computer, I don't know where or how it gets trained, but I could see someone flooding a hundred fake websites with tutorials on how to do something basic but a bit more obscure, but the information on the website is malicious and now the AI trains from that website and copies the malicious behavior.
I douobt someone read it but I want to add that maybe interaction with Copilot can be change (in near future)? Maybe it is as with app installation, when in default, Windows asks us everytime if u really want to install a program - and you can tweak that behavior. Maybe in Copilot you can change that as well and it won't ask you everytime if you want to do something or not, and it will immediatly do it?
I doubt the release version will be better. Microsoft loves releasing half-assed products. Half of Windows is unfinished
I get Luke's position, but Linus ISN'T wrong... As of THAT MOMENT, it can NOT do that. Only their "irrelevant" polished advertising video does what they say it can do... UNTIL that full product is out, it's a valid criticism of the CURRENT product...
aw damn I just lost the game, thanks Linus.
Dude Linus is such a jerk to Luke. Luke is just asking him to use the copilot and he's being so condescending
how tf did all 3 of them not see that there was a login qr code?
Is it possible to turn off copilot? I don’t want an AI model to feed my personal data to Microsoft, especially from my calendar, etc.
infernus to luke, that is the product that was indeed shipped to the community, so....
Same way that the stream viewers were divided on whether to side with Luke or Linus, the comments don't seem sure either.
Linus does want a co-pilot just he wants to be mean to it.