Dualtron has really failed to continue to innovate. That scooter is so over priced. It still uses a garbage folding mechanism from years ago. Their major innovation is they put lights all over it.... which is mostly useless. The removeable battery is cool but its not useful for most people. I'd go with a Nami, Weped, or RION over this all day. The folding handlebars on this scooter are so out of place and they are tiny which is why they had to use cheap tiny grips on the scooter. It looks like they didn't even use an anti-spark connector for the removeable battery, which is a travesty when your paying so much money for a 'high end' device. Thanks for the review! Don't take my dislike of what Dualtron is doing the wrong way, your videos are great!
Sur for that amount of money but after Thunder they made Strom with some proprietary parts like brake disk rotor. basicaly cant change to standard disk or better brake disks in market
Dualtron's folding bars are AWESOME. They are super solid. They make trundling around a supermarket or department store much easier. Never had problems with the width of them, on my Victor or older NewDT at least.
I got hit by a damn drunk at a crosswalk and he TOTALLED my NANROBOT D-6+.. like, it's done.. it got dragged under his car for a bit.. I'm fine, I wear full on crash gear so I had a few bad scrapes and a sore wrist, but I'm fine. Long story short, I just bought a new Dualtron Storm, and I'm STOKED! love your videos man and appreciate what you do, I've learned a lot from your videos. Thank you!
Great overview! I've been eyeballing this one as my second scooter alongside the Mantis Pro SE. Looks like it has great build quality! Looking forward to some rides. Will you be bringing it to the Saturday Night Ride? :)
Great video as always dude! Thanks! Way too many useless bells and whistles for my needs, but I’m sure some people like that? The only way I’d pay $4500 is if it came with an extra battery or 2?😂 thanks for your reviews though! Gonna b reviewing the vsett 11 anytime soon?!:)
Is there a reason why the Dualtron logo is upside-down on the left part of the stem? There are several models with this -- not sure if it has become a feature now!
When you connected the Cable to the battery did you connect positive to positive and negative to negative? Or positive to negative. I'm asking because my other scooter actually popped when I connected positive to positive
crazy how a storm can seem so underwhelming now that we have seen u do a very good video on the weped fs. storm is a beast but that weped is an absolute monster.
Hey question I have the king and just ordered the storm limited . I’m concerned about stem flex because I love how solid the king forks are. How does the stem feel in your opinion compared to the king ? Does it feel like You can safely wheelie off a curb or hit a jump with the dualtron stem ?
It's boarderline. It will depend a lot on the rider. I notice its getting a little worse the more miles I put on it. I've never heard of one breaking, which is more than Kaabo can say,, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.
@@GingerOnWheels so you mean it’s borderline close to the king in firmness ? That’s good! and I wonder if the limited is a different stem or the same as the storm regular . Would you know ?
You asked if those things were safe on the Storm, I'd say to me it feels boarderline safe. You could hit a curb or a few stairs no problem, but not a big jump. The bars wiggle, you can he the judge of how much that will effect your riding. The Storm Limited has the same frame but just a different battery configuration.
I have to agree with you on the fact that the thunder should have a kick plate or something. I've had my D4 plus 2.0 since December, I don't think I'd be able to ride it if I couldn't put my foot against the back Fender as a kick plate. Faster scooters should have a kick plate and I also agree with you about the folding handlebars, I don't like them.lovin, my nanrobot. Not sure if I would ever get a dualtron. Even if I could afford to buy it I wouldn't be able to afford to keep it, replacement parts
Another thing first time buyers of a dualtron need to realize expect to pay at least another $400-$500 to get it right. That would include a quick charger, a high lumen light, stem adapter, stem, mountain bike bars and good grips (love my ODI Rogue grips)👍✌
@@mornaistar I've had my dualtron Ultra for 3 years now and this is a set-up I use on it. When it comes to the stem, handlebars and light you can choose whatever brands you want and save some money. Especially when it comes to the light. Charger: 5amp multi setting with built-in fan and digital display. Stem adapter: carbonrevo Stem: 30° 60mm raceface respond Handlebars: 760 mm Race Face Chester Grips: Odi Rogue Light: gemini-titan 4000
Don't agree with the bars they're fine... Unless you're over 6-2 or so then you might want the stem extension. But yeah would be good if the other dualtrons came with horn, turn signals and back kickplate like the storm. And yeah i agree, they should all come with a high mounted decent headlight.
@@JamesFaction I don't know if they changed it on the newer models but my ultra only had 25.4 mm diameter bars. I had to get the smaller V1 adapter so I could put a new stem on and fit 31.8 mm mountain bike bars on it. I went with 760mm Raceface Chesters. Makes a huge difference when it comes to stability at higher speeds👍✌
Love the intital review. I will be watching the road test! This thing looks bad ass!! Can you do a Nanrobot Lightning vs Mercane WW vs Hero X8 vs Apollo Ghost? Can't seem to find many Nanrobot Lightning comparisons outside of to its D6+ sibling and I just ordered one. Thanks in advance! 😎
imma let u know this now, if any battery xt connector sparks that A. damages the xt connector which could possibly lead to issues in the future and possible fires and B. if that was a real xt90s antispark connector that spark would never happen so i highly suggest u solder on a xt90s connector to replace the damaged one and while ur at it also get fuses soldered to ur charge ports as well.
@@GingerOnWheels no i build packs and i wouldnt dare trust it my life or put anyone elses life at risk with using a semi fried xt connector but if u wanna discharge on it hey thats up to u.
@@GingerOnWheels if I can add say 8 inches with an stem and handlebar extender that should be ok I think I'd have to invest in the Daultron russian clamp for stability.
@@321backlip I would give the Nami Burn-E a serious look too before you decide on the Wolf. If I had the money and were in the market I think I would order the latter.
I like Dualtrons just too pricey I bought a Mototec Thor 60v 2400w for under $1.100 and it's pretty fast no problems whatsoever has a lot of torque! Great channel great reviews.. 👍✌🛴💨💨
Never rode the 11x but I have the storm. Was looking at the 11x before I bought the storm. It’s a bit more expensive but I think the quality that you get from Dualtron is worth it. It’s got huge range and more power. Everything is rock solid on the storm. I have another scooter with a similar throttle as the 11x (Apollo explore, it’s just a version of the zero 10). I can tell you that the “eye controller” on Dualtron is a way better throttle. Feels way stronger and overall better unit. The storm is an absolute beast with acceleration. I rarely ride it in full power mode. I usually ride in eco mode unless I’m on the riverbed bike trail and there aren’t many people near by. Even on eco mode this thing will do 30+ mph and will accelerate faster than almost any other person I encounter. If I need more power the eco button is just a thumb press away, instantly blasting you off to 55+ mph.
Let's say you have only one chance to buy a scooter and you will have to ride it for couple of years. Which brand you would choose and why? Durability, longevity, easy to maintenance etc.?
8:36 never had problem with these and only have one model dualtron is so good you need wait years before you need new HAHAHA you not supposed direv80kmh on bumpy forrest. you drive 25kmh on flat bicycle road i will not go drive between cars!
Ginger... We might need to have an intervention regarding the amount of scooters you have 😂. My only complaint with the storm and ultra 2 is the speed wobble is legit 50+
Agreed, this scooter, along with the Dualtron Storm, are the only scooters in my life I've got speed wobble on. Something about the geometry of standing on them, just feels front heavy.
@@GingerOnWheels yeah, there are 2 dampers available, standard rod damper is $350 and EREXX damper is $500. with the amount of wobble at high speeds, the storm should have a stock damper. you can mitigate the wobble by crouching and shifting your weight forward and back alternatingly.
Hey Ryan hop you can help, I’m having constant issues with the zoom brakes on my wolf king (front brake) i cant seem to find any shops that are willing to touch the brakes on an electric scooter.. I’m thinking of just switching out the brakes to a more name brand but don’t know if i can. Im learning.
This is the first dualtron that really looks as good as the price says. With that said, my entire scooter costs less than just a Storm battery and mine also came with Nutt brakes. Dualtron couldn't have given you some dual piston brakes? Seems lazy.
speed not important they all go ffaster than 25kmh. WHAT is max RANGE thats important as hell. folding not important bcoz it will replace your car. i buy first that say range 200km+/25kmh and is led bar need be on(without dualtron logo) just leds stripe
Mate, save your back! Next time you open an uber power scooter... Cut the bottom open and slide the box OVER the scooter. Unless you love deadlifts with awkward devices... box over scooter is key!
Thanks for another good review, but again Dualtron don't provide seat post options on most of their range. This is a deal breaker for a lazy ass coward like me. I got to sit on my scooter at 40mph+ and longer than 1 hour!
You spelled fine I didn't see any flaw with your writing... Do you mean you can't afford it? Well you can order a $1300 electric scooter from AliExpress you can get 3600W~4400w out of them or spend a few more hundred to get a 5600w... They come with full suspension like the Dualtron and comes with a seat. 11 inch tires 4 inches wide. And the parts are upgradable/interchangeable so you can upgrade the controllers and motors if necessary...or get extra for backup parts... You'll have to work on the scooter yourself and fix things....
@@noobz5056 Totally agree, buying from china is an option and a cheap one, provided you are happy to do do a little work when needed you can get some great scooters that go damn quick. My last one was 60v 8000w with a massive 60ah battery - could get over 150km in distance and would do 90km per hour - Cost $1400 AU - Cheap (never had any major issues, just the leaking rear brake, which i fixed)
@@noobz5056 yep, in many ways you can't go wrong, I think the likelihood of something going majorly wrong is low, the savings in money I believe outweigh the risk - even pushing the scooter hard (50-80km) would still get 80-100km out if it.... impressive
Thanks for the great review! Just wanted to know how long did you have to wait for the delivery since you booked it and were you able to track the shipment?
@@GingerOnWheels The wolf king has a longer delivery date than the storm ?(very confused between the king and the storm) please let me know! Thank you so much :)
Dualtron has really failed to continue to innovate. That scooter is so over priced. It still uses a garbage folding mechanism from years ago. Their major innovation is they put lights all over it.... which is mostly useless. The removeable battery is cool but its not useful for most people. I'd go with a Nami, Weped, or RION over this all day.
The folding handlebars on this scooter are so out of place and they are tiny which is why they had to use cheap tiny grips on the scooter. It looks like they didn't even use an anti-spark connector for the removeable battery, which is a travesty when your paying so much money for a 'high end' device.
Thanks for the review! Don't take my dislike of what Dualtron is doing the wrong way, your videos are great!
These high-end monster scooters should come standard with a quick charger or with two of the crappy stock chargers at the very least.
Sur for that amount of money but after Thunder they made Strom with some proprietary parts like brake disk rotor. basicaly cant change to standard disk or better brake disks in market
Some websites sell them with a quick charger for free.
Dualtron's folding bars are AWESOME. They are super solid. They make trundling around a supermarket or department store much easier. Never had problems with the width of them, on my Victor or older NewDT at least.
Awesome unboxing, as always! Great to see you cranking out videos of the higher end scooters.
I got hit by a damn drunk at a crosswalk and he TOTALLED my NANROBOT D-6+.. like, it's done.. it got dragged under his car for a bit.. I'm fine, I wear full on crash gear so I had a few bad scrapes and a sore wrist, but I'm fine. Long story short, I just bought a new Dualtron Storm, and I'm STOKED! love your videos man and appreciate what you do, I've learned a lot from your videos. Thank you!
I wish i had a fast electric scooter
Same here, I have a Hover-1 Alpha, it tops out at 18mph
@@Mark75yt same with mine
Sell everything you have and I'm sure you can 🙂
Nanrobot d4+ 2.0.. is pretty cheap, and badass :-) I got one in December and I love it
Can u do the wolf king gt pro when it comes out?
Great overview! I've been eyeballing this one as my second scooter alongside the Mantis Pro SE. Looks like it has great build quality! Looking forward to some rides. Will you be bringing it to the Saturday Night Ride? :)
Yup! It'll be on the next SNR.
How much are the batteries? I can’t seem to find them available anywhere
Good job nice to see some great scoots coming your way
Great video as always dude! Thanks! Way too many useless bells and whistles for my needs, but I’m sure some people like that? The only way I’d pay $4500 is if it came with an extra battery or 2?😂 thanks for your reviews though! Gonna b reviewing the vsett 11 anytime soon?!:)
Yes the only way I would buy one also is if it did have the extra battery plus the fast charger.
I would buy the limited model over the base mpdel
Man we can only dream, but with the price of lithium these days an extra battery pack probably costs another $1000 or more....
Excellent review bro ,
Great video ginger
Hey GOW where can we buy additional batteries for the storm so we can just swap em out?
Is there a reason why the Dualtron logo is upside-down on the left part of the stem? There are several models with this -- not sure if it has become a feature now!
Man, that Emove Cruiser among these monsters looks so small, and when you own it and ride it, it feels way above average.
Is it a water proof scooter ?
Would you say the build quality is better on the Dualtron's or Kaabo's?
You know you have it good when your buying a vacuum to use while your unboxing scooters 🤣
When you connected the Cable to the battery did you connect positive to positive and negative to negative?
Or positive to negative.
I'm asking because my other scooter actually popped when I connected positive to positive
love youre videos
😊 Great review!
👍 Thank you!
Drool 🤤
😍That looks amazing
what type of controller is in this guy? sine/square wave?
Square AF
Bells and whistles galore
Awesome vlog friend
Would you sell any of those scooters??
crazy how a storm can seem so underwhelming now that we have seen u do a very good video on the weped fs. storm is a beast but that weped is an absolute monster.
Hey question I have the king and just ordered the storm limited . I’m concerned about stem flex because I love how solid the king forks are. How does the stem feel in your opinion compared to the king ? Does it feel like
You can safely wheelie off a curb or hit a jump with the dualtron stem ?
It's boarderline. It will depend a lot on the rider. I notice its getting a little worse the more miles I put on it. I've never heard of one breaking, which is more than Kaabo can say,, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.
@@GingerOnWheels so you mean it’s borderline close to the king in firmness ? That’s good! and I wonder if the limited is a different stem or the same as the storm regular . Would you know ?
You asked if those things were safe on the Storm, I'd say to me it feels boarderline safe. You could hit a curb or a few stairs no problem, but not a big jump. The bars wiggle, you can he the judge of how much that will effect your riding. The Storm Limited has the same frame but just a different battery configuration.
I have to agree with you on the fact that the thunder should have a kick plate or something. I've had my D4 plus 2.0 since December, I don't think I'd be able to ride it if I couldn't put my foot against the back Fender as a kick plate. Faster scooters should have a kick plate and I also agree with you about the folding handlebars, I don't like them.lovin, my nanrobot. Not sure if I would ever get a dualtron. Even if I could afford to buy it I wouldn't be able to afford to keep it, replacement parts
Another thing first time buyers of a dualtron need to realize expect to pay at least another $400-$500 to get it right. That would include a quick charger, a high lumen light, stem adapter, stem, mountain bike bars and good grips (love my ODI Rogue grips)👍✌
Do you mind sharing some links? or brands? thanks a lot!
@@mornaistar I've had my dualtron Ultra for 3 years now and this is a set-up I use on it. When it comes to the stem, handlebars and light you can choose whatever brands you want and save some money. Especially when it comes to the light.
Charger: 5amp multi setting with built-in fan and digital display.
Stem adapter: carbonrevo
Stem: 30° 60mm raceface respond
Handlebars: 760 mm Race Face Chester
Grips: Odi Rogue
Light: gemini-titan 4000
Don't agree with the bars they're fine... Unless you're over 6-2 or so then you might want the stem extension. But yeah would be good if the other dualtrons came with horn, turn signals and back kickplate like the storm. And yeah i agree, they should all come with a high mounted decent headlight.
@@JamesFaction I don't know if they changed it on the newer models but my ultra only had 25.4 mm diameter bars. I had to get the smaller V1 adapter so I could put a new stem on and fit 31.8 mm mountain bike bars on it. I went with 760mm Raceface Chesters. Makes a huge difference when it comes to stability at higher speeds👍✌
@@jpoorr9973 oh you're talking about grip size? Idk, never had a problem with that.
Love the intital review. I will be watching the road test! This thing looks bad ass!!
Can you do a Nanrobot Lightning vs Mercane WW vs Hero X8 vs Apollo Ghost? Can't seem to find many Nanrobot Lightning comparisons outside of to its D6+ sibling and I just ordered one. Thanks in advance! 😎
110-130klm range! Impressive but interested to see what you get when you do your real world range test 👍
I've already done the range test actually. It's the new king of range! Longest range scooter I've ever tested. Video coming soon.
@@GingerOnWheels i look forward to seeing the video and the results.
I still don't get why they lift heavy things out of boxes when they can just place the box on it's side and slowly slide it out.
Can you review the Dualtron X2. That seems to be the top of the eScooter market in performance.
why do all heavily expensive scooters have obnoxious rgb logos
Because they are always dark colored and quiet so the lights make you seen in traffic.
Agree - it looks cheap and silly. Also more to go wrong. I have always put a toggle switch on my scooters to over ride those pimp lights.
im buying this thing just for the epic leds
imma let u know this now, if any battery xt connector sparks that A. damages the xt connector which could possibly lead to issues in the future and possible fires and B. if that was a real xt90s antispark connector that spark would never happen so i highly suggest u solder on a xt90s connector to replace the damaged one and while ur at it also get fuses soldered to ur charge ports as well.
I promise it's fine...
@@GingerOnWheels no i build packs and i wouldnt dare trust it my life or put anyone elses life at risk with using a semi fried xt connector but if u wanna discharge on it hey thats up to u.
Would love u to review a k4
Only 38 inches 🤔 i'm 6"4 deffo gonna need to extend that.
@ 6'4" I would just get another scooter entirely. You're going to spend $1k getting taller and wider bars anyway.
@@GingerOnWheels if I can add say 8 inches with an stem and handlebar extender that should be ok I think I'd have to invest in the Daultron russian clamp for stability.
@@321backlip I would give the Nami Burn-E a serious look too before you decide on the Wolf. If I had the money and were in the market I think I would order the latter.
Goddddd damn how many scooters do you have lemme get one
I like Ultra V2 much more. Removable battery is nice, but why you should remove such a huge battery? :D
I'm waiting for the storm tomorrow they deliver me😊😊😊
Damn how did you went from not much to getting all free scooters 😂
I like Dualtrons just too pricey I bought a Mototec Thor 60v 2400w for under $1.100 and it's pretty fast no problems whatsoever has a lot of torque! Great channel great reviews.. 👍✌🛴💨💨
Better than the Zero 11X or not??? Anyone help please
Never rode the 11x but I have the storm. Was looking at the 11x before I bought the storm. It’s a bit more expensive but I think the quality that you get from Dualtron is worth it. It’s got huge range and more power. Everything is rock solid on the storm. I have another scooter with a similar throttle as the 11x (Apollo explore, it’s just a version of the zero 10). I can tell you that the “eye controller” on Dualtron is a way better throttle. Feels way stronger and overall better unit. The storm is an absolute beast with acceleration. I rarely ride it in full power mode. I usually ride in eco mode unless I’m on the riverbed bike trail and there aren’t many people near by. Even on eco mode this thing will do 30+ mph and will accelerate faster than almost any other person I encounter. If I need more power the eco button is just a thumb press away, instantly blasting you off to 55+ mph.
It Doesn't need those small foam crap.. needs wider bars since it's built to go fast.
Agreed
If you don't have the black board on that storm, I am sure it will pop. It has a design flaw. Them minimotors knows it.
Let's say you have only one chance to buy a scooter and you will have to ride it for couple of years. Which brand you would choose and why? Durability, longevity, easy to maintenance etc.?
8:36 never had problem with these and only have one model dualtron is so good you need wait years before you need new HAHAHA
you not supposed direv80kmh on bumpy forrest. you drive 25kmh on flat bicycle road
i will not go drive between cars!
Ive never seen a "scoter" before, its pretty cool
OR! Buy a old used Nissan leaf for the same price :) that's a really cool hog
Do yume next
Ginger... We might need to have an intervention regarding the amount of scooters you have 😂. My only complaint with the storm and ultra 2 is the speed wobble is legit 50+
It seems that all these scooters that have the speed wobble they seem to just put a damper on it.
Agreed, this scooter, along with the Dualtron Storm, are the only scooters in my life I've got speed wobble on. Something about the geometry of standing on them, just feels front heavy.
@@GingerOnWheels yeah, there are 2 dampers available, standard rod damper is $350 and EREXX damper is $500. with the amount of wobble at high speeds, the storm should have a stock damper. you can mitigate the wobble by crouching and shifting your weight forward and back alternatingly.
Hey Ryan hop you can help, I’m having constant issues with the zoom brakes on my wolf king (front brake) i cant seem to find any shops that are willing to touch the brakes on an electric scooter.. I’m thinking of just switching out the brakes to a more name brand but don’t know if i can. Im learning.
What issues are having exactly with the front brake? Elaborate please? Some pics or video would help too.
Damn😳 how do u afford all of these Expensive scooters???! Mad Respect.
Damn, nice tape measure.
Please don't die ty
Yep yep yep. Handheld vac is the sign of the e-scooter life.
11:28 only 130km !!! atleast it says ECO for those who think 100kmh get you 100km in hour NO you stop RECHARGE LOL
This is the first dualtron that really looks as good as the price says.
With that said, my entire scooter costs less than just a Storm battery and mine also came with Nutt brakes. Dualtron couldn't have given you some dual piston brakes? Seems lazy.
Yeah I agree, it's the first Dualtron that looks so good I saw it and said, "I need that".
For 4500$ I could get a nice Dacia Logan :D
The nami burnne is much better try and get one that's not broke
My yume s10 doesn't even compare to this beast! My top 3 would have to be the dultron, wolf king, and the vsett 11+ My scooter only goes up to 30MPH
speed not important they all go ffaster than 25kmh. WHAT is max RANGE thats important as hell. folding not important bcoz it will replace your car. i buy first that say range 200km+/25kmh and is led bar need be on(without dualtron logo) just leds stripe
Mate, save your back! Next time you open an uber power scooter... Cut the bottom open and slide the box OVER the scooter. Unless you love deadlifts with awkward devices... box over scooter is key!
Thanks for another good review, but again Dualtron don't provide seat post options on most of their range. This is a deal breaker for a lazy ass coward like me. I got to sit on my scooter at 40mph+ and longer than 1 hour!
I hate the handlebar and the stem, the rest is a beautiful and powerful scooter
Good thing you can replace the bars fairly easily on this scooter.
I thought the wolf king was the best scooter
Fuck that the scooter is nice but I won't pay that much for it I'll buy me a car for that much no way
Please donate you DT thunder to me thanks
I can't spell $4500
You spelled fine I didn't see any flaw with your writing... Do you mean you can't afford it? Well you can order a $1300 electric scooter from AliExpress you can get 3600W~4400w out of them or spend a few more hundred to get a 5600w... They come with full suspension like the Dualtron and comes with a seat. 11 inch tires 4 inches wide. And the parts are upgradable/interchangeable so you can upgrade the controllers and motors if necessary...or get extra for backup parts... You'll have to work on the scooter yourself and fix things....
@@noobz5056 Totally agree, buying from china is an option and a cheap one, provided you are happy to do do a little work when needed you can get some great scooters that go damn quick. My last one was 60v 8000w with a massive 60ah battery - could get over 150km in distance and would do 90km per hour - Cost $1400 AU - Cheap (never had any major issues, just the leaking rear brake, which i fixed)
@@timpriestley8997 That's a nice work horse you got there with real good range.👍
@@noobz5056 yep, in many ways you can't go wrong, I think the likelihood of something going majorly wrong is low, the savings in money I believe outweigh the risk - even pushing the scooter hard (50-80km) would still get 80-100km out if it.... impressive
Thanks for the great review!
Just wanted to know how long did you have to wait for the delivery since you booked it and were you able to track the shipment?
These took about 5 business days to get the Storm to me and they provide tracking plus excellent customer service.
bit.ly/VoroStorm
@@GingerOnWheels The wolf king has a longer delivery date than the storm ?(very confused between the king and the storm) please let me know! Thank you so much :)
@@presidenthotsauce Dualtron batch just came in so those are in stock (for now) but the King is sold out and on Pre-order.