Classic Design and as you say "what looks good in Locomotives usually turns out to be so. Brilliant locomotive they far exceeded all expectations, for a type 3 they were one of the best. Light at 75 tons the two Bristol Siddeley V16 disel engines were a gem at 1,700 hp. the idea was to use them on 2nd class passenger traffic. They proved so good they often substituted on Cardiff Paddington trains - previously handled by Kings!!! Another reason why the Kings had such a fast demise. The big surprise was that when the Lickey Incline was included in the Western region, some were then shedded at Worcester. I saw them regularly employed as bankers on the bank at Vigo. During the trials it was found that the gear change between first & second was exactly the right speed required for the job and they proved to be a great success, this was at about the exact speed required to bank a train up the incline! What happened , you know who (the government) reclassified them as NON STANDARD (there were 100 in the class!!!) and fired all the maintenance staff! Sam one day you will find out how governments at the time were so incompetant. Oh I wonder surely this government could not be that bad? Many apologies for hoggging your site. Brilliant Review and very informative as always.
Good video again Sam as always. Both locos performed admirably & had no problem pulling their rakes! You are very welcome to keep the Hymek, as you may remember I still have my mint Tri-ang one in BR green of which I prefer that power bogie to a Ringfield one! I have a cracking set-up ready on the layout for our next collaboration when you can? ......And oh yeah....I want that programme whereby you can grab screen shots off the web to add direct into videos.....I please need your help on that. All the best mate, me.
+chambs123 Thanks John - they certainly are efficient pullers! Thanks very much for your generosity once again, I'm taking good care of her hehe ;) Looking forward to seeing the set up! The program you need is called 'Hypercam' you might be able to download a free trial for it, but I'll bring you a full copy when I next see you! Take care mate, Cheers Sam :)
Nice review Sam, my green Hymek is the same body as yours but running on the earlier Tri-ang mechanism. I discovered that the body was still fastened in the same way. : ) Regards, Cliff.
I’ve just bought freghtliner set with most of the track missing , but has the class 35 , not sure if it runs as waiting for controller and track , but what a lovely machine
Just given mine a complete strip down clean, de-oil/grease. How does that oil get behind the magnet? The ringfield magnet had a chunk out of it jamming the armature. Luckily found one on E-Bay. Small drop of oil in the right places, little dab of Hobby-lube white grease on the gears, new brushes and springs and new traction tyres. Now quiet/smooth just like new. 😀
Love the Hymeks Sam, and that one has a 1A20 code up, which was the route code for a Bristol Temple Medes to London Paddington semi fast service. Keep up the good work.
@@stashyjon ! know 1N was indicator for Bristol to the north (Newcastle) so would have gone through Derby (Sam) As you say though, Hymek's were strictly Western region .
Thanks Alan, I agree - they really are fantastic - they're designed brilliantly in model form too - so nice and easy to maintain! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
+Peter Shaw Thanks very much Peter - I'm making an effort to add a bit of history to the reviews now - especially when the locos have some interesting facts to them! :) Cheers, Sam
Debating on either getting the weathered one of this or the 47 since someone in my area is selling them for 100 cad each (56.23 pounds) not sure which one is better though
+adi pullen Thanks Ade - they did look quite cool together! It was your idea really, to do the history - so thanks for that, hope you didn't mind me stealing it! :$ Thanks as always for commenting. Cheers, Sam :)
Nice review, I really like the Hymeks mainly because they are the basis for Bear, also 2:30 There's a tiny speck of something that's moving with the camera...
Hello, Sam. Question for you: I have an original blue Hymek (by Hornby) - it does not have a Ringfield motor - the box is, 'Hornby - Rovex -so presumably, one of the earliest issue, circa mid - late seventies. It is not running, however; I want to strip it down & do a complete re-build. Can you direct me to your most pertinent video (& there are lots) in how to tackle this strip-down &/or replace parts; the wheels are filthy - it hasn't been out of the box for over twenty-five years. One last aspect: The front & back are in original BR yellow - who sells the most accurate paint (in terms of colour match) to smarten up those two ends ? New subscriber, here, but thus far, your videos are all pretty much no-nonsense, & informative - many thanks, Andrew :)
Hi Andrew, unfortunately I don't have a video (I don't think) showing how to service that particular mechanism - the closest I have would be any tri-ang video with the X04/X03 motor - they run on the same principle! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hello again, Sam - thanks for coming back so quickly to my enquiry - I shall look thru' your video catalogue for the above mentioned motor-driven vehicles. It's greatly appreciated !! Andrew :D
+Why Not? Welcome back. I generally enjoy steam more too, but there are plenty who enjoy the Diesels and, when the models are as superb as this, I'm happy to show and talk about them! :) Cheers, Sam
Nice review Sam, again I am like you, I do like my steam locos, but also like diesel. I am expecting a delivery of a very special Flying Scotsman that was produced for the Millennium, with a lot is 18 carat gold parts, which I will do a review on as soon as it comes. I have been away for a couple of weeks, just catching up on my UA-cam videos, so you will probably get comments from me about your past videos I have not seen yet, I do like your videos.
+Simon Young Wow! I'm looking forward to seeing the flying Scotsman with the gold - what a fantastic idea!! And no problem at all with the comments - I love reading/responding to them so feel free! Cheers, Sam
Absolutely right - you can't beat the old stuff, even the tri-ang stuff runs far more reliably than modern locomotives! Either way, these will probably still be around in another 50 years... the modern ones, maybe not! All the best mate, Sam :)
With great care. From memory, there are two standard lugs at the base of one end of the loco. They are not hard to pry in the normal way, though the bottom edges on the shell can be fragile. At the other end the head code box forms a lug that clips into the loco front surrounding it. What prompted me to write is that front breaks easily, so take care. I carefully filed a few thou from the perimeter of the head code lug on the frame to relieve the pressure next time. I do not have a ringfield version, but probably the bogie comes out by pressing mounting clips on the bogie frame. If that is true it means the body does not need to be disturbed - ever. Enjoy.
I got called away half way through replying; when I get called it can be urgent. The point is there was no intention to insult your intelligence. If possible it's usually a good idea to add something for someone who might be an outright beginner, which is what I was doing. There is no over-riding editor on these fora - Sam does his best; we all need to be 'net Nannies'. As I keep saying: the person you help might be a cash strapped kid. I know this only too well. Everything we say is public! In a negative sense, so is everything we don't add. I learned the term 'net nanny' from some bully berating someone for warning a person who was ignorantly handling a mains transformer (AAAHHH!!) Really respecifying one of these locos or their ilk is a big project. I believe Hornby released a five slot armature for their ringfield motors, but availability and serviceability in this context needs research It might add to this loco(There's one for you Sam). The other problem is respecking (is that a word?) the pickup on the power truck. I have a loco of this vintage in bits. Time has shot me in the foot, but the idea was to put non-tyred wheels on one powered axle and install pickups on it. From there pickups would be installed on the currently dead side of the trailing truck, and from there thinking would be required on the possibility of re-setting the gears before the bearing pins wear out of shape. The pins are 'diecast' and the gear restrainers don't impress. Wear is likely to institute a 'cascading pathology'. Why bother? In an age where the price tag on new stock is beginning resemble its running number, the X04 based motors provide a wonderful basis for long term quality; even all these years later. My jury is still out on the ringfields of the vintage of that Hymek. The one thing I have not heard mentioned is the possibility of mechanical advantage conferred by the large armature diameter of ringfields. Motor characteristic and so on also play a part, but if I ever get time (a pig just flew by) I would like to prove the point that a well rebuilt 'oldie' can knock the modern stuff flying. Finally: anyone ever put high integrity pickups on an old Lima power truck? and have a look at the Model Railway Journal article 'A Long Overdue Package'. Hope this reads OK; no time to write it properly. Hope it contributes and encourages at least one person. If all that does not get me into trouble, nothing will. Best Wishes Pete
This has a lot of personality, it don't need any face to express itself. (It's weird: if a loco looks cool, put a face on it they say; not only is that a bit problematic when designing a face, it pulls away the eyes from actually seeing the loco, and it's a real shame too because they have so much personality if you just tap it with a bit of imagination and personification without a face like some railfan series bring; their characters are very entertaining, simple, less restrictive in expression, but more imaginative.) (Not saying locos can't do with faces-- you can make it work, but models can do without it in my opinion if you flesh out the character enough.)
I would have preferred to see the two tank engines in the background running. They got a bigger smile from me than those stinky diesels. If you're not a diesel fan, don't run diesels.
@@SamsTrains That's what they call them in Thomas & friends.... As a matter of fact one of Diesel's nicknames were "Mr. Oily" Though, there is one particular Class 35 was nicknamed "Bear", due to his engine growled like one.
Classic Design and as you say "what looks good in Locomotives usually turns out to be so. Brilliant locomotive they far exceeded all expectations, for a type 3 they were one of the best. Light at 75 tons the two Bristol Siddeley V16 disel engines were a gem at 1,700 hp. the idea was to use them on 2nd class passenger traffic. They proved so good they often substituted on Cardiff Paddington trains - previously handled by Kings!!! Another reason why the Kings had such a fast demise.
The big surprise was that when the Lickey Incline was included in the Western region, some were then shedded at Worcester. I saw them regularly employed as bankers on the bank at Vigo. During the trials it was found that the gear change between first & second was exactly the right speed required for the job and they proved to be a great success, this was at about the exact speed required to bank a train up the incline!
What happened , you know who (the government) reclassified them as NON STANDARD (there were 100 in the class!!!) and fired all the maintenance staff!
Sam one day you will find out how governments at the time were so incompetant.
Oh I wonder surely this government could not be that bad?
Many apologies for hoggging your site. Brilliant Review and very informative as always.
Thanks a lot Leroy - definitely superb machines! Glad you liked the review, and thanks for your thoughts as always! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Good video again Sam as always. Both locos performed admirably & had no problem pulling their rakes! You are very welcome to keep the Hymek, as you may remember I still have my mint Tri-ang one in BR green of which I prefer that power bogie to a Ringfield one! I have a cracking set-up ready on the layout for our next collaboration when you can? ......And oh yeah....I want that programme whereby you can grab screen shots off the web to add direct into videos.....I please need your help on that. All the best mate, me.
+chambs123 Thanks John - they certainly are efficient pullers! Thanks very much for your generosity once again, I'm taking good care of her hehe ;) Looking forward to seeing the set up! The program you need is called 'Hypercam' you might be able to download a free trial for it, but I'll bring you a full copy when I next see you!
Take care mate,
Cheers
Sam :)
Nice review Sam, my green Hymek is the same body as yours but running on the earlier Tri-ang mechanism. I discovered that the body was still fastened in the same way. : )
Regards, Cliff.
+janiceandcliff Thanks Cliff - I've seen the tri-and version too, it is very similar except the mechanism as you say.
Cheers,
Sam :)
Just ordered this engine for my fleet today, paid $63 around 45 pounds and im excited to receive it. Mint condition barely a mark on the wheels.
Ooh fantastic - I really hope you enjoy her mate! :D
Merry Christmas,
Sam :)
I’ve just bought freghtliner set with most of the track missing , but has the class 35 , not sure if it runs as waiting for controller and track , but what a lovely machine
we also have one at svr
The hymek can run the VE day special carrying soldiers in their military coaches finally sort of a soldier's song as the horn
That would be lovely to try! :D
Just given mine a complete strip down clean, de-oil/grease. How does that oil get behind the magnet? The ringfield magnet had a chunk out of it jamming the armature. Luckily found one on E-Bay. Small drop of oil in the right places, little dab of Hobby-lube white grease on the gears, new brushes and springs and new traction tyres. Now quiet/smooth just like new. 😀
Love the Hymeks Sam, and that one has a 1A20 code up, which was the route code for a Bristol Temple Medes to London Paddington semi fast service.
Keep up the good work.
Hi Jon, thanks a lot for that mate - glad you like them! Cool info too - I wonder if they did one for the derby area?! lol
All the best,
Sam :)
It would have been rare for a Hymek to be in the Derby area. And I dunno wat te route codes for that area would be
@@stashyjon ! know 1N was indicator for Bristol to the north (Newcastle) so would have gone through Derby (Sam) As you say though, Hymek's were strictly Western region .
Great video again Sam, love the Hymek one of my favourites. Regards John Oz.
+Wilso 1947 Cheers John, glad you like the Hymek - I'm not a bit diesel fan but I did really like this one!
Cheers,
Sam
Hi Sam. Might be one of the best designed diesels - and I agree, it has looks, especially the BR green. Good review. Alan.
Thanks Alan, I agree - they really are fantastic - they're designed brilliantly in model form too - so nice and easy to maintain! :D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I just purchased the BR Blue version of this loco for only 22 pounds plus 6 pounds shipping. Looking forward to her arriving. Good review.
~Lykos
That's brilliant! Good luck with her mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Always wanted one but the airfix class 31 was my very first locomotive, still got it over 40 years on
Ahh fantastic - those Airfix 31s were awesome! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
What a lovely loco and again amazing review sam!
Thanks so much mate - glad you enjoyed it!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Good review and extra special when it comes with a bit of history . Peter.
+Peter Shaw Thanks very much Peter - I'm making an effort to add a bit of history to the reviews now - especially when the locos have some interesting facts to them! :)
Cheers,
Sam
Debating on either getting the weathered one of this or the 47 since someone in my area is selling them for 100 cad each (56.23 pounds) not sure which one is better though
The same locomotive type Bear is from the Railway Series
nice review sam
they make a nice pair love the histoy
sde
+adi pullen Thanks Ade - they did look quite cool together! It was your idea really, to do the history - so thanks for that, hope you didn't mind me stealing it! :$
Thanks as always for commenting.
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains no of course not look at history all the great engineers nicked ideas off each
ade
+adi pullen haha! I guess that makes us two great engineers then ;)
Nice review, I really like the Hymeks mainly because they are the basis for Bear, also 2:30 There's a tiny speck of something that's moving with the camera...
Thanks so much! Yeah they are great - and Bear is a great loco too! haha yeah well spotted - I don't know what that was, lol!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Hello, Sam. Question for you: I have an original blue Hymek (by Hornby) - it does not have a Ringfield motor - the box is, 'Hornby - Rovex -so presumably, one of the earliest issue, circa mid - late seventies. It is not running, however; I want to strip it down & do a complete re-build. Can you direct me to your most pertinent video (& there are lots) in how to tackle this strip-down &/or replace parts; the wheels are filthy - it hasn't been out of the box for over twenty-five years. One last aspect: The front & back are in original BR yellow - who sells the most accurate paint (in terms of colour match) to smarten up those two ends ?
New subscriber, here, but thus far, your videos are all pretty much no-nonsense, & informative - many thanks, Andrew :)
Hi Andrew, unfortunately I don't have a video (I don't think) showing how to service that particular mechanism - the closest I have would be any tri-ang video with the X04/X03 motor - they run on the same principle!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hello again, Sam - thanks for coming back so quickly to my enquiry - I shall look thru' your video catalogue for the above mentioned motor-driven vehicles. It's greatly appreciated !!
Andrew :D
just found my dads old class 35. it runs really well for the age.
That's very good to hear Jack - have fun with it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I just got back from a scout camp. Very nice review I don't really like diesels though.
+Why Not? Welcome back. I generally enjoy steam more too, but there are plenty who enjoy the Diesels and, when the models are as superb as this, I'm happy to show and talk about them! :)
Cheers,
Sam
Pretty sure the t transmission was German Mekydro which is what most of BR's hydraulic inspiration came from - HYdraulic MEKydro.
Yes I think you might be right - that rings a bell!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Nice review Sam, again I am like you, I do like my steam locos, but also like diesel. I am expecting a delivery of a very special Flying Scotsman that was produced for the Millennium, with a lot is 18 carat gold parts, which I will do a review on as soon as it comes. I have been away for a couple of weeks, just catching up on my UA-cam videos, so you will probably get comments from me about your past videos I have not seen yet, I do like your videos.
+Simon Young Wow! I'm looking forward to seeing the flying Scotsman with the gold - what a fantastic idea!! And no problem at all with the comments - I love reading/responding to them so feel free!
Cheers,
Sam
nice again sam lovley, video again. ive got two hymek Hornby 35 in the same liverys.........
+James chick Thanks James, glad you liked it! The Hornby ones are just great :)
Thanks for the comment,
Sam
I don't know if it's a coincidence but I have a hymek with the same IA20 but is number D7065...
Oh right, that's interesting - I'm not too sure, I'm no expert with diesels hehe!
Cheers,
Sam :)
lucky you have a hymek im still looking for one around the hobbie stores :)
+glen tonkin Yeah, there don't seem to be too many around, you might be able to find one on eBay though :)
Cheers,
Sam
Thanks Sam might try hattons or woodpecker model railways
Is this the 1980s version? if so i have the BR blue one
I think this is probably 1980s yeah - it's a fairly old one anyway! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
i do like the hymek and this video also have one myself
+GWR23 Studios Yeah, they are very attractive, as diesels go!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Just love the older models, they don,t sing they don,t dance and they don,t talk, they just run ! .
Absolutely right - you can't beat the old stuff, even the tri-ang stuff runs far more reliably than modern locomotives! Either way, these will probably still be around in another 50 years... the modern ones, maybe not!
All the best mate,
Sam :)
Correction, this is my favorite diesel. (Also, apparently heljan made one of these)
Yeah they did!! Would love to try one! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Do your engines ever have problems on the carpet
Never actually! But I work hard to keep them all clean! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Which end is the front end of that diesel
Usually the end with the fan is considered the front- but they'd run either way!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Bear/D7101 is a member of this class
Yes he is indeed! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
IF you are still here, how do you open it?
With great care. From memory, there are two standard lugs at the base of one end of the loco. They are not hard to pry in the normal way, though the bottom edges on the shell can be fragile. At the other end the head code box forms a lug that clips into the loco front surrounding it. What prompted me to write is that front breaks easily, so take care. I carefully filed a few thou from the perimeter of the head code lug on the frame to relieve the pressure next time. I do not have a ringfield version, but probably the bogie comes out by pressing mounting clips on the bogie frame. If that is true it means the body does not need to be disturbed - ever.
Enjoy.
@@petert9749 thanks, figured that out a long time ago but thanks anyway
@@SouthEastTrainspotter Of course you have. Average modellers like me remember what it's like not to know. I bothered to help them.
I got called away half way through replying; when I get called it can be urgent.
The point is there was no intention to insult your intelligence. If possible it's usually a good idea to add something for someone who might be an outright beginner, which is what I was doing. There is no over-riding editor on these fora - Sam does his best; we all need to be 'net Nannies'. As I keep saying: the person you help might be a cash strapped kid. I know this only too well. Everything we say is public! In a negative sense, so is everything we don't add.
I learned the term 'net nanny' from some bully berating someone for warning a person who was ignorantly handling a mains transformer (AAAHHH!!)
Really respecifying one of these locos or their ilk is a big project. I believe Hornby released a five slot armature for their ringfield motors, but availability and serviceability in this context needs research It might add to this loco(There's one for you Sam). The other problem is respecking (is that a word?) the pickup on the power truck. I have a loco of this vintage in bits. Time has shot me in the foot, but the idea was to put non-tyred wheels on one powered axle and install pickups on it. From there pickups would be installed on the currently dead side of the trailing truck, and from there thinking would be required on the possibility of re-setting the gears before the bearing pins wear out of shape. The pins are 'diecast' and the gear restrainers don't impress. Wear is likely to institute a 'cascading pathology'.
Why bother? In an age where the price tag on new stock is beginning resemble its running number, the X04 based motors provide a wonderful basis for long term quality; even all these years later. My jury is still out on the ringfields of the vintage of that Hymek. The one thing I have not heard mentioned is the possibility of mechanical advantage conferred by the large armature diameter of ringfields. Motor characteristic and so on also play a part, but if I ever get time (a pig just flew by) I would like to prove the point that a well rebuilt 'oldie' can knock the modern stuff flying.
Finally: anyone ever put high integrity pickups on an old Lima power truck? and have a look at the Model Railway Journal article 'A Long Overdue Package'.
Hope this reads OK; no time to write it properly. Hope it contributes and encourages at least one person.
If all that does not get me into trouble, nothing will.
Best Wishes
Pete
That's a lovely little thing, put many modern locos to shame 😂👍
haha I agree - they are lovely aren't they?! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
not a bobo, but a b-b as the wheels are not independently powered
You should remake the reveiw of this!
I might do some time!! :D
Can you stick a Thomas and Friends bear face on there
Yeah that'd look awesome actually!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
This has a lot of personality, it don't need any face to express itself.
(It's weird: if a loco looks cool, put a face on it they say; not only is that a bit problematic when designing a face, it pulls away the eyes from actually seeing the loco, and it's a real shame too because they have so much personality if you just tap it with a bit of imagination and personification without a face like some railfan series bring; their characters are very entertaining, simple, less restrictive in expression, but more imaginative.) (Not saying locos can't do with faces-- you can make it work, but models can do without it in my opinion if you flesh out the character enough.)
Yeah you're right, it's a very cool looking loco!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It’s bear from the rws
A very nice diesel loco.
Thanks Norbert, much appreciated as always!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Bear was d7101
Oh okay, thanks for that - and thanks very much for watching,
Cheers,
Sam :)
I have this model it was my dads
Ooh awesome! I've heard about a lot of dads that have these :3
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains yeah it is a beautiful locomotive isn't it!
I would have preferred to see the two tank engines in the background running. They got a bigger smile from me than those stinky diesels. If you're not a diesel fan, don't run diesels.
Ahh not to worry - I do have plenty of videos showing those running! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have that engine
Bear
Yeah!! :D
oh look its bear!
haha is it? That's cool, I didn't know that!
Cheers,
Sam :)
+Sam'sTrains
he is a diesel from the railway series
from thomas
+Sam'sTrains
surch by youtube for ,,the railway series"
you will find a playlist could the railway series in that playlist are all the thomas Story's
Its bear!
1A20 ;)
Thanks a lot for that mate!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains No worries man, common mistake :)
Love your videos!
Oily wheels....
Ooh really?!
@@SamsTrains That's what they call them in Thomas & friends.... As a matter of fact one of Diesel's nicknames were "Mr. Oily" Though, there is one particular Class 35 was nicknamed "Bear", due to his engine growled like one.