I'm from Bulgaria, but I recently traveled to Spain (Barcelona) to purchase my dream car. It's an 08' C6 with a petrol V6 engine and possibly every option available for the model with 97K kilometres on it. Truly one of the best cars ever made. It's a parade on 4 wheels, and every moment is special.
1975 was indeed a good year to buy a brand new Citroën: that year my dad bought his second new Citroën, a Dyane 4. Since it was purchased 1 year before I was born, and it stayed for 7 years, it pretty much started my preference for the French brand. For me it has to be 2024 since I recently ordered my first brand new Citroën: a C5 X PHEV 180. During the testdrive, the PHC-suspension was very convincing (and so was the rest of the car), so after owning almost only 10-15 year old Citroëns since the beginning of my car-ownership I bit the bullet. Hoping to receive it in October and trade in my current C5 Tourer.
@@comcarclub Agreed. If it wasn't for the C5 X I would have driven it happily for a couple of years, even though there is some important maintenance to be done the next 1 or 2 years (timing-belt and probably the clutch) and the road-tax here in the Netherlands is horrendous (for my 2.0 HDi 136 I pay well over € 2.000,- a year). Our government doesn't like heavy, old diesel-cars. I would be surprised if it gets a new Dutch owner. Probably will end up in export to Eastern Europe or something.
@@PieterB76 you know what, that's good! Eastern Europeans love their C5s and tend to take care of them. I'm also curious about how the C5 X will perform, given that it's got that 1.6l engine. It looks great on paper but I'd love to see what it's like in real terms. Many happy miles to you, I think you've made a great acquisition
I owned a Citroen AX 1.1i Furio. It was a 4 door with the GT trim spec, but with a smaller engine. I currently own a C3 Pluriel 1.4. My father on the other and, had a GS 1015 cc, a GS 1129 cc, a GSA 1299 cc break and a BX 1.6 TRS. So as you can see the "force runs strong" in our family.
I owned several ID and DS models over a period between about 1964 to the eighties. Even a DW. I was a garage mechanic, so despite these cars being complicated and, to be honest, rot boxes, I could manage their idiosyncrasies! I remember my first view of an ID. I’d been sent out to change the battery on a new customer’s car, in an adjoining village. The owner, at a rather posh house, told me “it’s in the garage” so I walked over and opened the garage door, and there stood…….a space ship! And I knew I had to have one ❤ They were simply just fantastic and sooo futuristic. In those days we worked on cars with beam axles and chassis’s! In the early days, in the countryside, one hardly ever saw foreign cars on the road, and almost never a ID Citroen, and if one did the euphoria from both vehicles was accompanied by lots of waving. From the oh so sensitive ‘mushroom’ brake button to the little ‘joystick’ hydraulic gear change, and every quirky thing between, I had them all at one time or another, and loved them! I’m almost 80 now, but still remember opening that garage door.
I've owned Citroen cars (and many other marques) from all three years mentioned in the video, plus others in between. But, today I still own the Citroens available in the year 1975, which include the SM, DS, CX and GS. So on that basis alone, I reckon, personally of course, the year to have bought the best available cars for any given marque but, specifically for Citroen, was 1975 (or the seventies in general). The cars Citroen produced back then were so futuristic, so brilliantly conceived and so well built (if you can manage keep the rust at bay) and ultimately so advanced for their time, that they all stand up so well today. The CX and GS almost look contemporary, offer far better handling and ride, are amazingly individual and so overwhelmingly more interesting that anything new today - from any manufacturer at any price.
Of my 17 Citroens over 52 years my favorites were - 1972 DS21 EFI Pallas 5 speed (better than my 1975 DS23 EFI 5 speed) = Best of my 7 ID/DS/Safari 1974 GS1220 Club manual - better than my 1015 Cmatic and 1220 Wagon Cmatic 1978 CX2400 EFI 5 speed Prestige - better than dad's 1977 CX2400 carbie C matic 1982 2CV6 Charleston - best of 3 new 2CVs - 1978, 82, 90. 1997 Xantia 1.9 TD 2018 C4 Cactus. I lust for a C6 3.0L V6 diesel a DS23 Safari Best year of Citroen Manufacture - 1975 with 2CV, GS, DS, CX & SM 3 litre + tail end of GS Birotor... Citroen at its most adventurous.
@@comcarclub My weekend car is 1990 2CV7 Charleston I have owned from new has recently received a Burton Big Bore 652cc 2CV6 engine plus power tube with a 20% increase in torque and horse power - hence I call it my 2CV7.. My daily drive is a 2019 (in Australia - 2018 in UK) C4 Cactus 1.2 Puretech auto with full glass sunroof & half leather. The last with Airbumps but before Progressive Hydraulic Cushion suspension.. - I was looking at a C5 Aircross but there was a run out special on the Cactus which made it nearly half the price of the C5, and in the colour and spec's I wanted... and it had more Citroen personality...
I started with a Dyane in 1978, had all the A series including a Mehari, a CX GTi, a couple of Xantias, many XM's and C5's apart from the model you have, couldn't get in those as I got older, the Mk1 was taller. Now heaving my decrepit carcass about in a Xsara Picasso - because I can get in it. My favourites were the Dyane and the Ami 8 estate, although all the others were fun as well. I am not sure that PSA have a future, they messed up letting BMW fiddle with the Prince engine and the new Puretech 1.2 is a known monster which they seem to have stuffed into almost everything. The old philosophy of "what isn't there can't fall off " is overdue for a return.
So true! PSA have shot themselves in the foot with their petrol engines. It's tragic. They used to have a bunch of brilliant four-pots and now it's these wet-belt nightmares and awful THP stuff. Glad to see love for the Dyane and Ami 8, they're severely underappreciated cars!
@@comcarclub So you are not in the queue for a C5 with a 1.2 puretech? You are right, they made some great engines in the past. I know they have restarted production of the Berlingo diesel very quietly, it was meant to be electric or puretech.
@@PeterCrosland There's a good chance if I ever have to get a more modern car than my current C5, it'll be a C5 X. Hopefully, by then, they'll be later models with engines that have the bugs ironed out of them.
I'd agree. Better built than BX and less bland than C5. The Xud TD was a great simple motor. Avoid the auto. It goes wrong. Apart from stunning rear styling the C6 is a bit disappointing. XM is good and super comfortable but most are worn out now, complex cars. DS was fantastic, an icon, but needy. The CX was more complex and are costly to restore.
I've given up on new Citroens here in Australia. I bought a Chinese EV with the latest gadgets for a daily and have old Citroens like C5, BX, CX for occasional relaxed drives and general tinkering.
I would say that 2017 was the last good year because : last year for C5 , prefacelift C4 cactus , C3 Picasso you could get the E-mehari and the original DS lineup , and also some other decent car like C4 Picasso , C1 and new C3 , after that we have a bottom level between 2018 and 2020 and then it rise again a bit again with the Ami , C5X and C4
I think you should have mentioned the Xantia in the 90's, especially the model Activa which represented the peak in their Hydractive 2 suspension system. Early 2000s were probably the worst years for Citroen in my opinion
Badge engineering is good for the company that have trouble meeting the pollution norms in Europe. This is why Suzuki Swace exists, is basically a Toyota Corolla, but helps Suzuki keep the average company pollution in the car line-up lower. Something like this. It's sad to see that cars are getting more traditional in technical terms (no more hydropneumatic suspension for example), but still the companies are spending a lot of money into the safety measures needed in the recent years (like emergency calling, sign recognition, emergency stopping) and on phone apps to start/unlock the car etc. Now imagine car prices if the companies will come with something out of the ordinary(Citroen'esque) and while also having the cost of the safety measure development. None will buy any new cars anymore. I don't want to defend them, but maybe in some years, the development of these electronic gimmicks will reach an "OK" level and don't need any more upgrades, and then the companies will focus on going extreme again with hydropneumatic suspension and whatever else.
@@MevilJuice I don't see that happening. I just see them cramming more and more gimmicks in cars, and people falling for it. The "safety" features are overblown too, with useless crap like Lane departure warning and sign recognition (like you mentioned) being crutches on which bad drivers stand up. I don't see cars becoming better any time soon, let alone be able to get Citroën-esque stuff! Very glad to have your opinion on this
@user-kb3gc8pe8y You didn't do a very good job with deciding on that comment 🤦. This guy has his own YT channel. He owns and has owned several Citroen cars. He is also a mechanic that works on TVRs and Citroens and is very knowledgeable. Not a single EV in view. Duhhh.
Modern citroens are sadly not as interesting as previous ones. C1 and c2 badge engineering..C4 was awful. Mk1 c3 looked fantastic, a modern 2cv, but not well made. Picasso was adequate. C5 desperately bland. C6 underdeveloped?
I'm from Bulgaria, but I recently traveled to Spain (Barcelona) to purchase my dream car. It's an 08' C6 with a petrol V6 engine and possibly every option available for the model with 97K kilometres on it. Truly one of the best cars ever made. It's a parade on 4 wheels, and every moment is special.
@@valentinexristov8915 you are living the dream, my friend. All the best and many happy miles behind the wheel of your majestic barge
My daily driver is a 92 ZX 1.4 Avantage. It has more than 277000 km on the clock. It's a phantastic car. A lot of fun to drive.
1975 was indeed a good year to buy a brand new Citroën: that year my dad bought his second new Citroën, a Dyane 4. Since it was purchased 1 year before I was born, and it stayed for 7 years, it pretty much started my preference for the French brand.
For me it has to be 2024 since I recently ordered my first brand new Citroën: a C5 X PHEV 180. During the testdrive, the PHC-suspension was very convincing (and so was the rest of the car), so after owning almost only 10-15 year old Citroëns since the beginning of my car-ownership I bit the bullet. Hoping to receive it in October and trade in my current C5 Tourer.
@@PieterB76 that new C5 X sounds good, but it's a shame you have to let go of the Tourer. I hope it goes to an appreciative owner!
@@comcarclub Agreed. If it wasn't for the C5 X I would have driven it happily for a couple of years, even though there is some important maintenance to be done the next 1 or 2 years (timing-belt and probably the clutch) and the road-tax here in the Netherlands is horrendous (for my 2.0 HDi 136 I pay well over € 2.000,- a year). Our government doesn't like heavy, old diesel-cars. I would be surprised if it gets a new Dutch owner. Probably will end up in export to Eastern Europe or something.
@@PieterB76 you know what, that's good! Eastern Europeans love their C5s and tend to take care of them. I'm also curious about how the C5 X will perform, given that it's got that 1.6l engine. It looks great on paper but I'd love to see what it's like in real terms. Many happy miles to you, I think you've made a great acquisition
I owned a Citroen AX 1.1i Furio. It was a 4 door with the GT trim spec, but with a smaller engine. I currently own a C3 Pluriel 1.4.
My father on the other and, had a GS 1015 cc, a GS 1129 cc, a GSA 1299 cc break and a BX 1.6 TRS.
So as you can see the "force runs strong" in our family.
It does indeed!! All the best, fellow "Citroenista"
I owned several ID and DS models over a period between about 1964 to the eighties. Even a DW. I was a garage mechanic, so despite these cars being complicated and, to be honest, rot boxes, I could manage their idiosyncrasies!
I remember my first view of an ID. I’d been sent out to change the battery on a new customer’s car, in an adjoining village. The owner, at a rather posh house, told me “it’s in the garage” so I walked over and opened the garage door, and there stood…….a space ship! And I knew I had to have one ❤
They were simply just fantastic and sooo futuristic. In those days we worked on cars with beam axles and chassis’s!
In the early days, in the countryside, one hardly ever saw foreign cars on the road, and almost never a ID Citroen, and if one did the euphoria from both vehicles was accompanied by lots of waving.
From the oh so sensitive ‘mushroom’ brake button to the little ‘joystick’ hydraulic gear change, and every quirky thing between, I had them all at one time or another, and loved them!
I’m almost 80 now, but still remember opening that garage door.
@@daveyr7454 that was marvellous to read. Thanks so much for sharing!!
I love my DS 21, it's now 53 years old, but it doesn't feel like an old car to drive, with sublime comfort.
I've owned Citroen cars (and many other marques) from all three years mentioned in the video, plus others in between. But, today I still own the Citroens available in the year 1975, which include the SM, DS, CX and GS. So on that basis alone, I reckon, personally of course, the year to have bought the best available cars for any given marque but, specifically for Citroen, was 1975 (or the seventies in general). The cars Citroen produced back then were so futuristic, so brilliantly conceived and so well built (if you can manage keep the rust at bay) and ultimately so advanced for their time, that they all stand up so well today. The CX and GS almost look contemporary, offer far better handling and ride, are amazingly individual and so overwhelmingly more interesting that anything new today - from any manufacturer at any price.
Of my 17 Citroens over 52 years my favorites were -
1972 DS21 EFI Pallas 5 speed (better than my 1975 DS23 EFI 5 speed) =
Best of my 7 ID/DS/Safari
1974 GS1220 Club manual - better than my 1015 Cmatic and 1220 Wagon Cmatic
1978 CX2400 EFI 5 speed Prestige - better than dad's 1977 CX2400 carbie C matic
1982 2CV6 Charleston - best of 3 new 2CVs - 1978, 82, 90.
1997 Xantia 1.9 TD
2018 C4 Cactus.
I lust for a C6 3.0L V6 diesel
a DS23 Safari
Best year of Citroen Manufacture - 1975 with 2CV, GS, DS, CX & SM 3 litre
+ tail end of GS Birotor...
Citroen at its most adventurous.
@@stephenberry1205 impressive haul of Citroens!! Do you still own any of them?
@@comcarclub My weekend car is 1990 2CV7 Charleston I have owned from new has recently received a Burton Big Bore 652cc 2CV6 engine plus power tube with a 20% increase in torque and horse power - hence I call it my 2CV7..
My daily drive is a 2019 (in Australia - 2018 in UK) C4 Cactus 1.2 Puretech auto with full glass sunroof & half leather. The last with Airbumps but before Progressive Hydraulic Cushion suspension.. - I was looking at a C5 Aircross but there was a run out special on the Cactus which made it nearly half the price of the C5, and in the colour and spec's I wanted... and it had more Citroen personality...
DS5 was a banger. Even today looking so good,and that interior...not a Citroen fan but I wouldn't run from good DS5
I started with a Dyane in 1978, had all the A series including a Mehari, a CX GTi, a couple of Xantias, many XM's and C5's apart from the model you have, couldn't get in those as I got older, the Mk1 was taller. Now heaving my decrepit carcass about in a Xsara Picasso - because I can get in it. My favourites were the Dyane and the Ami 8 estate, although all the others were fun as well.
I am not sure that PSA have a future, they messed up letting BMW fiddle with the Prince engine and the new Puretech 1.2 is a known monster which they seem to have stuffed into almost everything. The old philosophy of "what isn't there can't fall off " is overdue for a return.
So true! PSA have shot themselves in the foot with their petrol engines. It's tragic. They used to have a bunch of brilliant four-pots and now it's these wet-belt nightmares and awful THP stuff.
Glad to see love for the Dyane and Ami 8, they're severely underappreciated cars!
@@comcarclub So you are not in the queue for a C5 with a 1.2 puretech? You are right, they made some great engines in the past.
I know they have restarted production of the Berlingo diesel very quietly, it was meant to be electric or puretech.
@@PeterCrosland There's a good chance if I ever have to get a more modern car than my current C5, it'll be a C5 X. Hopefully, by then, they'll be later models with engines that have the bugs ironed out of them.
2012, C6.
the 3.0L model
In terms of reliability the Xantia may be the best. Last one with octupus hp and in many respects similar to the Peugeot 406 (I owned).
I'd agree. Better built than BX and less bland than C5. The Xud TD was a great simple motor. Avoid the auto. It goes wrong. Apart from stunning rear styling the C6 is a bit disappointing. XM is good and super comfortable but most are worn out now, complex cars. DS was fantastic, an icon, but needy. The CX was more complex and are costly to restore.
And it doesn't rust!
1968 Citroen DS Pallas for me. First with the steering headlamps.
The Mehari, what a car. Didin;t know the ZX was the basis for the Berlingo. Many thanks.
I've given up on new Citroens here in Australia. I bought a Chinese EV with the latest gadgets for a daily and have old Citroens like C5, BX, CX for occasional relaxed drives and general tinkering.
My daily is a 1975 Citroen GS ❤
I’m happy with my low spec C1. It’s enough car for me as a cyclist…
♥️🚗💨🇫🇷
CX is a cool car, i had a chance to ride in the GTI back in my teen years during school(did go training to become a car mechanic)
I would say that 2017 was the last good year because : last year for C5 , prefacelift C4 cactus , C3 Picasso you could get the E-mehari and the original DS lineup , and also some other decent car like C4 Picasso , C1 and new C3 , after that we have a bottom level between 2018 and 2020 and then it rise again a bit again with the Ami , C5X and C4
@@TheQuirkyGarage1999 good shout. I also rather like the 3rd gen C3, my best mate had one and it was really good
I think you should have mentioned the Xantia in the 90's, especially the model Activa which represented the peak in their Hydractive 2 suspension system. Early 2000s were probably the worst years for Citroen in my opinion
@@Dusan-jb6lc Xantia didn't overlap with any of my years. I had to have a BX in there
We had a red C15, a red AX 11 TGE, a red ZX 1,6 and a red ZX 1,8.
Then moved to Renault, no more red.
Try to get an 1991 Serie 2 CX Break 2.5 TRD Turbo 2, lively 120 horses, nuch space and comfort by only 7.5 liters Diesel/100 kilometers😊
Badge engineering is good for the company that have trouble meeting the pollution norms in Europe. This is why Suzuki Swace exists, is basically a Toyota Corolla, but helps Suzuki keep the average company pollution in the car line-up lower. Something like this.
It's sad to see that cars are getting more traditional in technical terms (no more hydropneumatic suspension for example), but still the companies are spending a lot of money into the safety measures needed in the recent years (like emergency calling, sign recognition, emergency stopping) and on phone apps to start/unlock the car etc.
Now imagine car prices if the companies will come with something out of the ordinary(Citroen'esque) and while also having the cost of the safety measure development. None will buy any new cars anymore.
I don't want to defend them, but maybe in some years, the development of these electronic gimmicks will reach an "OK" level and don't need any more upgrades, and then the companies will focus on going extreme again with hydropneumatic suspension and whatever else.
@@MevilJuice I don't see that happening. I just see them cramming more and more gimmicks in cars, and people falling for it. The "safety" features are overblown too, with useless crap like Lane departure warning and sign recognition (like you mentioned) being crutches on which bad drivers stand up. I don't see cars becoming better any time soon, let alone be able to get Citroën-esque stuff! Very glad to have your opinion on this
the c1 is basically a Toyota the switch gear the feel not necessarily a bad thing but only a citron in name cant think of any citron parts
I think Peugeot had a good 75 and 91 line up as well. Renault had a good 75, 91 not so much.
@@jayartz8562 I actually like Renault's 91 lineup! The 4, the first gen Clio, the 25! It may be nostalgia talking... 😁
CX, GS/GSA, Dyane, Visa, Axel, AX, BX, XM, Saxo, C2,C3, C5, C6......... ID/DS......
1975 I couldn't, born in November 75😅
Baaaaaaaaahhhh the ZX, nor meat nor fish......
C4 3door, ok...... DS3.....
I gave up at 2 minutes in.
And look at all the likes from all people who care that you did.
@@UPnDOWN Go for boring drive in your Tesla did you?
@user-kb3gc8pe8y You didn't do a very good job with deciding on that comment 🤦. This guy has his own YT channel. He owns and has owned several Citroen cars. He is also a mechanic that works on TVRs and Citroens and is very knowledgeable. Not a single EV in view. Duhhh.
@@sectionateme I'm on my 3rd Citroen. My daughter did 250000 in her Berlingo before deciding it was getting too expensive to maintain.
Modern citroens are sadly not as interesting as previous ones. C1 and c2 badge engineering..C4 was awful. Mk1 c3 looked fantastic, a modern 2cv, but not well made. Picasso was adequate. C5 desperately bland. C6 underdeveloped?