Honestly I agree with you with EVERYTHING you pointed out. Only difference is I hate this house. Two staircases that look like inside a court house or other municipal building, is a deal breaker. Just not at all interested in this design. I can only honestly ask...What were they thinking? Also formal dining room looks like an engineering board room.
I love your commentary and honesty about what you think! There were things I loved and didn't love. The whole house had areas that didn't seem well thought out. Things I didn't love... Glass on the stairs seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Didn't like the flooring up the walls in the bathroom. Two staircases together are just a waste of space. The dining room could have been bigger if you only had one staircase and there was all this wasted space in that whole area. Fireplace in the living room should have been on the wall facing the kitchen along with the tv. The stairs by the garage needs to be wider so you take furniture up the stairs instead of trying to move it up stairs with glass on the sides. Things I loved... I did love the primary bedroom and that tub was huge! I liked there was no carpet in the house. Loved the kitchen... I loved the basement minus the X's all over. I just think for the money that they could have thought it out a little better. Thanks for doing a tour.
Couple of things, seems like a narrow staircase going down stairs...how do you get large items down there without scuffing the walls? Also many years ago my husband and I bought a toll brothers home, our master bathroom was over the garage ... absolutely freezing cold floor. Hated it in the winter. Bathroom should be warm . Love the idea of the double stair case. Going back to basement, it would definitely be beneficial to have some kind of dumbwaiter.
Thanks for the tour. It doesn’t surprise me that’s the price with the materials used and the zip code. Plus I’m guessing that patio costs quite a bit. Can you see the landfill from this development?
I drove by this area mistakenly this past summer. I said to myself ohhh TB is in Michigan, ok, ok!l, lol! It basically sits downtown. What a crazy location.
The traffic noise would drive me crazy. I’m surprised the builder spent so much on the driveway and exterior area. I wonder if that is part of the $2.7? I’d much rather have a better built house on a smaller lot in Birmimgham where you can walk to everything and it’s quieter. Of course that same house in Birmimgham would be over $4million.
It's no secret that I love Birmingham so I'm with you on that. Builders usually toss their most over the top model homes right in front of the sub in the least desirable spot. Driveway was definitely part of that 2.7. Weirdest thing to me is that Toll Brothers won't do a lot of the upgrades you see in the house.
Paul - I watched your video in Michigan and property taxes. That is what scares many people away from moving especially when retired. I do like and enjoy your videos though.
@@PaulWolfert Not capped. We have the Headley Amendment that allows most communities to levy 5% or rate of inflation every year. $1.2 million for OSB floor joists indicates cheap to me. The front entrance is cheap looking also.
Had the pleasure of helping a senior architectural photographer shoot this house for Toll Brothers! Gorgeous, though completely (IMHO), definitely has some odd design choices. I believe furnished, they said this home was ~$2.4.
I was thinking the exact same thing. AC should be on the other side of the house. Of course the builder saved some money putting closer to the furnace.
I'd rather get something on a lake like Lake Brighton or Lake Angelus for that price or 1/2 that price. My biggest issue is the neighborhood. No trees, sight lines to houses directly nearby. I'd rather have trees and a lake behind my house if I'm paying over $2M. I just picture being in that cool patio and having drivers coming by or neighbors ogling me. The actual house is huge and loaded, no doubt, but it feels like an office building in a business area. Not very warm or secluded. The outdoor patio is like a public lounge area. You'd think in Northville they would space the houses out and leave some trees on the lots. It looks like a subdivision in Sterling Heights or Rochester.
The patios and interior are very nice! The exteriors look like any other average priced, mass-built neighborhood that cost 1/4-1/3 the price. And the lots seems on the smaller side, but location, location, location. Not impressed by the exterior of the home itself. However the interior is impressive. However, it does not scream 2.7 million dollars! As it sits, I would've guessed 1.1-1.3 honestly.
You could have posted a photo showing square footage, garage and basement dimensions, and finishes. I’d be able to ballpark the price faster than watching a walkthrough video.
Cheap not impressive neighborhood . House looks cheap outside nothing impressive in materials and landscaping. Front door too small and unimpressive Covered back patio looks like an afterthought, not connected to house! Front patio an overkill ! Front entrance looks like a commercial building 2 staircases too much and too narrow for space! Would expect more inside , outside and neighborhood for 2.7 mil!! 1-1.5 million max!
It is a Mercury vs a Ford 😂 . 🤷♂️ What do you guys want for cheap glam on track subdivision properties? Nice for the money really when you balance location and everything. Sign and buy vs build custom but you would be SHOCKED how little little little 2 million would build custom compared to this house without crossing off allot of stuff.
That front door is so not impressive. For that big of a house should have had a large pivot door or double door. No double stair case, TV on wrong wall, kitchen has a terrible layout, no work triangle, powder room has the floor on the walls instead of a focus wall, bathroom tile on 2nd floor is too busy looking. Walk-in closet, ceilings are good. Toll Bros homes have a lot of wasted space filled with nonsense use.
People spend money on all the wrong things. Every home I’ve ever built and/or owned I was concerned about the Windows/Doors and the roofing. EVERYTHING else is cosmetic. Windows/doors/roofing are your most protective things for every home and yet builders continually skimp on them. Likely because they’re costly.
I truly believe this is a 2.5M when it's not in a construction zone. I would say 1.8M as is but I'm only in the backyard and haven't made it inside yet. But if there is an HOA I don't know how I feel about a million dollar home with an HOA.
I have read and watched A LOT of buyer beware posts about Toll Brothers. A few industry experts have Toll Brothers ranked as the nation's worst large scale home builder.
Did this house have a deeper basement? If not the builder should have spent a little extra money and put in a deeper basement for the finished ceiling height.
Yeah - I mention that while I'm down there. If you opt to finish your basement with Toll Brothers, they make it all one uniform height starting from the lowest point. Cheaper to do it that way.
No is the short answer to that house being worth it. You can build/buy a much nicer home in Oakland county for less than 2.7 million. The basement was impressive at first until you showed all the unfinished space that was to oddly shaped to be used for anything good. The finished space in the basement felt like an oversized bar with little ability to mold it into anything useful or fun. The main suit was huge, but huge isn’t always better. The lack of a full scullery or butlers pantry was disappointing. I have many other issues with this model and it’s the same one they sell in central Orlando and other areas. It’s not impressive. Rather go with a local custom builder on minimum of 5 acres or a better city like Birmingham if I’m dropping 2.7MM. THANKS FOR THE VIDOE! I enjoyed it.
The house looks like an apartment building or commercial space. Small ugly little front door for a big entrance. And who needs two stairs next to each other unless is a business. What was the architect smoking when he designed the house and what was everyone else smoking to agreed?
All of these houses cost 10 silver dollars. Read the Deed. There is a purchase and sale agreement which is the contract by which two parties agreed to the purchase/sale of a piece of land or property and also the Deed (usually a warranty deed) which is the actual sale document. The purchase and sale agreement outlines the agreement between the buyer and seller but it does not have the authority to transfer ownership of the property that is where the deed comes into play...I wish I could teach you this but you will learn the fraud soon enough & you will be angry. 💚💚💚💚
It sounds like you may be confused about how property deeds and real estate transactions work. In many cases, deeds mention a nominal amount like "10 dollars and other valuable consideration" as a legal formality and a way to maintain privacy about the actual transaction amount, it doesn’t reflect the actual sale price of the property. The purchase and sale agreement outlines the terms between the buyer and seller, while the deed officially transfers ownership. This is standard practice in real estate and not a sign of fraud.
i have that warranty deed in my filing...sexiest piece of paper i own!! the company i worked with was very professional with dealing with back payments, replacing certain things before signing papers. etc, that wouldn't be applied to me after purchase. worth the extra money all day!!!
like the look of metel but maybe to noisy. would have wanted a lg front porch. I like hanging out in front of my house. TV should never be above the fire place. you should never have to look up to see it, you should be able to look straight again when sitting on the sofa to watch it. Every desighter will tell you that. hate the floor on the walls. also I'd want real hardwood floors throughout. I think all the bedrooms should have their own bathroom. I have friends that actually had the builder build a 10 foot basement. First time I'd ever been in a home like that. But they did if to have high ceilings in the basement when they finished it. for that price, it should be brick all the way around the house.
Two staircases in this size is house looks terrible and is a waste of space. I never understood it. The TV def. on the other wall. TV's over fireplaces look silly - too high. Just not nuts about this floor plan.
My uncle lives in a toll brothers community from the early 2000s. All the homes were full brick wrap, have spiral staircases, and were built for less than a million. Todays market is a scam
Looks like a big cheaply built house , sorry , front door looks ridiculous with that facade , ugly cheap garage doors , cheap siding , I won’t even go inside .
@ MI homes did it to me, hence why I cancelled my uncashed check years ago. He’s had a few different companies over the years. I went with pulte after that debacle. My lender said it was the most unprofessional phone call she ever encountered. Buyer beware.
@@PaulWolfert though they’re not to ask credit scores and monthly income. Completely unprofessional. Good thing we backed out, many roof issues in the sub was looking at
Well, I was going to comment about how lame the design and material on this house is, but it seems like most others agree and got it covered. This is what happens when there is no passion for a build and someone is just checking off boxes. You just get massed produced crap!!!
It's big. Obviously. And there is space around. This is America. But. The houses they always look cheaply made there like this one. Mark from Manchester UK
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Reminds me of an office building as soon as you walk in the front door.
The double staircase killed it for me. And the rest of the house doesn’t do much for me either. The 7’ ceilings in the basement are a joke.
Thanks for offering building advice! Will take you up on that. I’m subscribed!
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Honestly I agree with you with EVERYTHING you pointed out. Only difference is I hate this house. Two staircases that look like inside a court house or other municipal building, is a deal breaker. Just not at all interested in this design. I can only honestly ask...What were they thinking? Also formal dining room looks like an engineering board room.
I love your commentary and honesty about what you think! There were things I loved and didn't love. The whole house had areas that didn't seem well thought out. Things I didn't love... Glass on the stairs seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Didn't like the flooring up the walls in the bathroom. Two staircases together are just a waste of space. The dining room could have been bigger if you only had one staircase and there was all this wasted space in that whole area. Fireplace in the living room should have been on the wall facing the kitchen along with the tv. The stairs by the garage needs to be wider so you take furniture up the stairs instead of trying to move it up stairs with glass on the sides. Things I loved... I did love the primary bedroom and that tub was huge! I liked there was no carpet in the house. Loved the kitchen... I loved the basement minus the X's all over. I just think for the money that they could have thought it out a little better. Thanks for doing a tour.
Thanks for watching the tour!! A lot of people don't like my commentary but it's what I would want to see 🤷♂️
Out of all the houses I watch on other channels I really like yours the best.
Thank you!! Some people hate this style of tour but it's what I like to see too.
Couple of things, seems like a narrow staircase going down stairs...how do you get large items down there without scuffing the walls? Also many years ago my husband and I bought a toll brothers home, our master bathroom was over the garage ... absolutely freezing cold floor. Hated it in the winter. Bathroom should be warm . Love the idea of the double stair case. Going back to basement, it would definitely be beneficial to have some kind of dumbwaiter.
You'd probably have to take everything up one of those two front staircases. Where was your TB house?
Love the Patio. Must be great out there in the Summer with the 2 monster A/C units humming away 10 feet from your head.
@@bigbadboodah one of the homes in the neighborhood had the two units in front of a basement window 😬
Thanks for the tour. It doesn’t surprise me that’s the price with the materials used and the zip code. Plus I’m guessing that patio costs quite a bit. Can you see the landfill from this development?
😆 no, the landfill is pretty far from this one.
I drove by this area mistakenly this past summer. I said to myself ohhh TB is in Michigan, ok, ok!l, lol! It basically sits downtown. What a crazy location.
The Northville location?
Nice tour !
The traffic noise would drive me crazy. I’m surprised the builder spent so much on the driveway and exterior area. I wonder if that is part of the $2.7?
I’d much rather have a better built house on a smaller lot in Birmimgham where you can walk to everything and it’s quieter. Of course that same house in Birmimgham would be over $4million.
It's no secret that I love Birmingham so I'm with you on that. Builders usually toss their most over the top model homes right in front of the sub in the least desirable spot. Driveway was definitely part of that 2.7. Weirdest thing to me is that Toll Brothers won't do a lot of the upgrades you see in the house.
Paul - I watched your video in Michigan and property taxes. That is what scares many people away from moving especially when retired. I do like and enjoy your videos though.
I appreciate you watching. The taxes do get a little crazy but luckily they're capped.
@@PaulWolfert Not capped. We have the Headley Amendment that allows most communities to levy 5% or rate of inflation every year. $1.2 million for OSB floor joists indicates cheap to me. The front entrance is cheap looking also.
Had the pleasure of helping a senior architectural photographer shoot this house for Toll Brothers! Gorgeous, though completely (IMHO), definitely has some odd design choices. I believe furnished, they said this home was ~$2.4.
Nice! It doesn't look like there are any good exterior shots of this place available or I would have used one. It's 2.7M now 🤯
I dont like the placement of ac compressors near seating area would like to see nicer finish on front curb appeal my guess is 1,649,900
I was thinking the exact same thing. AC should be on the other side of the house. Of course the builder saved some money putting closer to the furnace.
Add another million 😬
I'd rather get something on a lake like Lake Brighton or Lake Angelus for that price or 1/2 that price. My biggest issue is the neighborhood. No trees, sight lines to houses directly nearby. I'd rather have trees and a lake behind my house if I'm paying over $2M.
I just picture being in that cool patio and having drivers coming by or neighbors ogling me.
The actual house is huge and loaded, no doubt, but it feels like an office building in a business area. Not very warm or secluded. The outdoor patio is like a public lounge area.
You'd think in Northville they would space the houses out and leave some trees on the lots.
It looks like a subdivision in Sterling Heights or Rochester.
Yeah, it's definitely a love it or hate it place. Most buyers here just REALLY want to be in that location. I'd rather have a lake and more space too.
I completely agree with all you said.
The patios and interior are very nice! The exteriors look like any other average priced, mass-built neighborhood that cost 1/4-1/3 the price. And the lots seems on the smaller side, but location, location, location. Not impressed by the exterior of the home itself. However the interior is impressive. However, it does not scream 2.7 million dollars! As it sits, I would've guessed 1.1-1.3 honestly.
I agree way overpriced
It's definitely all about the location with this one.
You could have posted a photo showing square footage, garage and basement dimensions, and finishes. I’d be able to ballpark the price faster than watching a walkthrough video.
Thanks for the feedback. Wouldn't really fit my channel and not exactly my thing.
Cheap not impressive neighborhood . House looks cheap outside nothing impressive in materials and landscaping. Front door too small and unimpressive Covered back patio looks like an afterthought, not connected to house! Front patio an overkill ! Front entrance looks like a commercial building 2 staircases too much and too narrow for space! Would expect more inside , outside and neighborhood for 2.7 mil!! 1-1.5 million max!
I agree this is flash trash.
Too much traffic noise.
It is a Mercury vs a Ford 😂 . 🤷♂️ What do you guys want for cheap glam on track subdivision properties? Nice for the money really when you balance location and everything. Sign and buy vs build custom but you would be SHOCKED how little little little 2 million would build custom compared to this house without crossing off allot of stuff.
Where in MI is this located?
I believe it's in Northville @susanjohnson6111
Seems pretty reasonable for a house in CA.
That front door is so not impressive. For that big of a house should have had a large pivot door or double door. No double stair case, TV on wrong wall, kitchen has a terrible layout, no work triangle, powder room has the floor on the walls instead of a focus wall, bathroom tile on 2nd floor is too busy looking. Walk-in closet, ceilings are good. Toll Bros homes have a lot of wasted space filled with nonsense use.
@@lilshaz8378 the front door was one thing that really bugged me. I've toured a ton of high end homes and they always have pretty substantial doors.
going from 1.2 to 2.7 from upgrades is wild 😭
Agreed!!
Overpriced
Jack shaft garage door opener of course
The front outdoor seating area is somewhat weird. I would keep that kinda thing in the backyard.
I like the House 🏡
People spend money on all the wrong things. Every home I’ve ever built and/or owned I was concerned about the Windows/Doors and the roofing. EVERYTHING else is cosmetic. Windows/doors/roofing are your most protective things for every home and yet builders continually skimp on them. Likely because they’re costly.
With all that traffic going by....... heck no.
I truly believe this is a 2.5M when it's not in a construction zone. I would say 1.8M as is but I'm only in the backyard and haven't made it inside yet. But if there is an HOA I don't know how I feel about a million dollar home with an HOA.
A lot of the multi million dollar builds here and in Novi are gated communities with expensive HOAs. It's wild.
I have read and watched A LOT of buyer beware posts about Toll Brothers. A few industry experts have Toll Brothers ranked as the nation's worst large scale home builder.
😅 one of my first UA-cam videos is about the "Worst Home Builders in Michigan" (consumer reports rankings)
Did this house have a deeper basement? If not the builder should have spent a little extra money and put in a deeper basement for the finished ceiling height.
Yeah - I mention that while I'm down there. If you opt to finish your basement with Toll Brothers, they make it all one uniform height starting from the lowest point. Cheaper to do it that way.
The homeowner will have to spend a fortune getting all those brick pavers fixed in less than 10 years
I've seen a few that hold up for years. Not sure who they had do these.
They extra bedroom could be a mother in law suite or a guest bedroom
I think that's what I called it. The mother or father-in-law suite.
the gravel walkway is terrible, it should have been concrete , the backyard is nice but no privacy sucks
😆 the gravel was definitely weird.
No is the short answer to that house being worth it. You can build/buy a much nicer home in Oakland county for less than 2.7 million. The basement was impressive at first until you showed all the unfinished space that was to oddly shaped to be used for anything good. The finished space in the basement felt like an oversized bar with little ability to mold it into anything useful or fun. The main suit was huge, but huge isn’t always better. The lack of a full scullery or butlers pantry was disappointing. I have many other issues with this model and it’s the same one they sell in central Orlando and other areas. It’s not impressive. Rather go with a local custom builder on minimum of 5 acres or a better city like Birmingham if I’m dropping 2.7MM.
THANKS FOR THE VIDOE! I enjoyed it.
Birmingham/Bloomfield would be amazing.
The house looks like an apartment building or commercial space. Small ugly little front door for a big entrance. And who needs two stairs next to each other unless is a business. What was the architect smoking when he designed the house and what was everyone else smoking to agreed?
I stand behind my "one staircase should be a slide" opinion.
All of these houses cost 10 silver dollars. Read the Deed. There is a purchase and sale agreement which is the contract by which two parties agreed to the purchase/sale of a piece of land or property and also the Deed (usually a warranty deed) which is the actual sale document. The purchase and sale agreement outlines the agreement between the buyer and seller but it does not have the authority to transfer ownership of the property that is where the deed comes into play...I wish I could teach you this but you will learn the fraud soon enough & you will be angry. 💚💚💚💚
It sounds like you may be confused about how property deeds and real estate transactions work. In many cases, deeds mention a nominal amount like "10 dollars and other valuable consideration" as a legal formality and a way to maintain privacy about the actual transaction amount, it doesn’t reflect the actual sale price of the property. The purchase and sale agreement outlines the terms between the buyer and seller, while the deed officially transfers ownership. This is standard practice in real estate and not a sign of fraud.
i have that warranty deed in my filing...sexiest piece of paper i own!! the company i worked with was very professional with dealing with back payments, replacing certain things before signing papers. etc, that wouldn't be applied to me after purchase. worth the extra money all day!!!
like the look of metel but maybe to noisy. would have wanted a lg front porch. I like hanging out in front of my house. TV should never be above the fire place. you should never have to look up to see it, you should be able to look straight again when sitting on the sofa to watch it. Every desighter will tell you that. hate the floor on the walls. also I'd want real hardwood floors throughout. I think all the bedrooms should have their own bathroom. I have friends that actually had the builder build a 10 foot basement. First time I'd ever been in a home like that. But they did if to have high ceilings in the basement when they finished it. for that price, it should be brick all the way around the house.
Many things undesirable: glass below railings wood on walls. Do they work with architectural companies. designers. I would not look twice!
Overpriced garbage lack of trim work is a joke amomgst many other things.
Northville ? $ 2 M ?
Higher 😬😅
I like the roofed area but the rest of the landscaping looks like Minecraft😂
😂😂
Two staircases in this size is house looks terrible and is a waste of space. I never understood it. The TV def. on the other wall. TV's over fireplaces look silly - too high. Just not nuts about this floor plan.
Used to own a Toll Brothers home in the Columbus,Ohio area. The WORST builders ever.
As bad as Pulte trash 😂
Cheap builder black widows in and white in the back.
My uncle lives in a toll brothers community from the early 2000s. All the homes were full brick wrap, have spiral staircases, and were built for less than a million. Todays market is a scam
Costs have gone up but I'd have to agree. They don't make 'em like they used to.
Expensive builders using same exact inexperienced contractors.
TB just adds shine to the turds.
Looks like an upscale pulte neighborhood. The low railing at the top of the stair landing is an absolute no for anyone with kids. Very meh
$1.5 million? Wild guess.
@@stevevlahos1 higher. Much higher 😬
Situation where you have an adult child living in a space that they would not necessarily take care of because they don’t have ownership? No
Sounds like the Highway is in the back yard. No Thanks
Not a highway but a pretty busy main rd
Looks like a big cheaply built house , sorry , front door looks ridiculous with that facade , ugly cheap garage doors , cheap siding , I won’t even go inside .
Overpriced
I.9 M
Nope! Higher 😬
Don’t do business with MI Homes. That guy is shady as hell by calling potential buyers lenders.
Who's calling potential buyers lenders?
@ MI homes did it to me, hence why I cancelled my uncashed check years ago. He’s had a few different companies over the years. I went with pulte after that debacle. My lender said it was the most unprofessional phone call she ever encountered. Buyer beware.
@@sfb1170 ah! Ok. Most builders have to call your lender to verify before starting a build.
@@PaulWolfert though they’re not to ask credit scores and monthly income. Completely unprofessional. Good thing we backed out, many roof issues in the sub was looking at
Well, I was going to comment about how lame the design and material on this house is, but it seems like most others agree and got it covered. This is what happens when there is no passion for a build and someone is just checking off boxes. You just get massed produced crap!!!
It definitely doesn't have the same character as a custom build 😬
The front door is a disaster.
😂 that seems to be a common thought on this
I'll pass.
They definitely don't make beautiful houses anymore - this is a very uninspired home.
God I hate Toll Brothers and their cheap junk houses and neighborhoods. They are the polar opposite of Moceri or DesRosiers.
Those are two AMAZING builders. Not even close to the same level.
MINECRAFT. Too sterile looking. Especially that downstairs bathroom
It's big. Obviously. And there is space around. This is America. But. The houses they always look cheaply made there like this one. Mark from Manchester UK
You guys got the same problem only without the space - inside or out.
No.
Ceiling in mb too heavy. This looks like a very male oriented style. In interested if mor men like it then women
Way way overpriced
I'll give you $ 1.00, because it is in Michigan, property tax is outraguess
So this is just stupid
😂
I agree it's a rip-off.