I wonder how this ship will change when Armor will come into play, apparently it has a special armor coating which should make it stand out among it's sister ships.
I love this small ship... The rocketpod is great against components. The hairbringer also comes with 2 on the turret. I like to use them, against small ships can get pretty effective! The ship also have internal storage if you can get behind the seat. I think all mustangs should have the option to leave the seat and go to the back, like the beta has.
The Armor on the ship when implemented should give it a huge boost compared to other ships. Though I would also like to see the Rocket slot also reworked.
When the larger spectrum of combat enters the game - where combined forces of air & ground are better fleshed out - I look at the Delta as an excellent air-to-ground fighter, using its guns and especially its Jericho rockets as capable anti-personnel and anti-vehicle weapons.
The mustang is my favourite ship in the game purely because a review of the mustang was how i accidentally discovered the game. It fives me so much nostalgia to when i discovered star citizen
I was surprised how well the Delta performs. But you have to upgrade the shields. For weapon i recommend full gimballed repeater loadout. Then you can use gimb mode on the first fire button and you have the rockets on the second for extra firepower when you need it. One problem of the Delta is that it's a classcannon. When you take damage you will loose control very quickly. But for the low ingame price it's a ship which you should give a try.
As an aside.... Really appreciate your review style.... I have showed/bored my children to death with your ship reviews of ever ship I own, have owned and want to own. Keep it up...
Never could enjoy the Mustang series, but really tried. There are better options for starters. Got nothing bad or good to say about the ship. I do have to commend you on two aspects: you have made an informative video worth watching and you also had something good and nice to say about everything. Nevermind the video, that mindest of not only registering the bad but also focusing on the good, is rare but you do it. Thats a good mindset for life. Well done!
I really like the Delta because of its rocket pods. Its not that theyre "meta" but theyre unique, and if you want to use them, it makes you fly differently and that alone spices things up. Matched with a beautiful view in pilot seat, decent guns, and more than fair speed, its a fun ship to keep in your fleet.
This is my go-to ship for flying for fun, nothing like running the canyons of daymar in my Delta.. also I have taken on some ERTs in this bad boy. Don't sleep on this ship 😁
Also... For only 100k ish more.... You can get the far superior Reliant Tana, rocking 6s2 weapons, and a bucket of missiles. Plus with some changes coming Spon TM, the bed logging will become usable again.
You compare two different ship styles. Delta is a dogfighter. And a good one. While the Tana is a little gunship/missile ship . 1vs1 Delta vs Tana the Delta will win most of the time. Tana has a good firepower but also goes down very quickly. The interiour is good. But you don't need it in a dogfight.
AS someone who enjoys both DCS and Star Citizen I can say that the mustang delta leans more into the helicopter aspect than the aircraft aspect. Due to the pure ballistic damage and the very low ripple of the jericho's I find the delta my go to ship during jumptown to provide excellent air to ground cover. It's super easy to do strafing runs at full speed and to pick out mobile targets like the nova tank and the ballista/centurion
My only criticism of this review, is that you didn't mention that its a stealth ship - the cheapest stealth ship in the game. I imagine its intended purpose is to ambush players on planets. Stealth to get close without being detected, and general characteristics reminscient of an apache helicopter for air to ground assault. That's probably why they chose to give it those rocket pods. Aside from that one nitpick, excellent review, as always.
Interesting! And never a nitpick, as much as I do my research and spend time aboard before publishing a review, other people also offer valuable perspectives!
Seeing what this once-awesome ship has been turned into by CIG makes me very sad. I used to own one, before they redesigned it. Back in the time when it still had an interior and bed. And back when the rocket pods still had real punching power. They were bloody hard to score a hit with but used to have similar damage to missiles, which made this light fighter excel against big opponents. A full load of Jericho missiles would tear through large ships as soon as the Delta got in their face. Now the rocket pods are just bugged ballistics cannons with almost no ammo unfortunately. Such a sad story. 😞
The mustang series of ships is really aesthetically pleasing to me personally. I used my delta for most of my game play. It's not the strongest ship and it's not the fastest ship, but to me it is one of the nicest looking and it's still a joy to fly. In the end isn't that the point of it all? Finding the ship you personally enjoy the most and flying it around. If you enjoy a ship and it does what you need it to do, use the ship even if there's better options.
I'm actually not a big fan of the looks, but I can see how it would be appealing to others. That's one of the things I like about Star Citizen - different people are drawn to different ships
@@Farrister Please, do take your time! There’s something to be said about fine wine taking it’s time so it’s all good :) but please do talk about the interior detail and how it’s rather different than the drake of cutlass series we’re accustomed to. I think it would make an interesting talking point. In any case, can’t wait!
I think the biggest let down for the Delta is the mix of permanently gimballed and fixed weapons. It means wonky aiming at moving targets, and since all the other variants have the same firepower available if you go fully gimballed (Not counting the rockets here, they are their own weirdness), you may as well get the utility of a living space or the cargo pod or extra engine. Which is a shame, I love the Mustang line as good economical little ships.
The Alpha has cargo, in the same space the Beta has living accommodation and the Gamma/Omega have a third engine. The Delta has nothing. You should have a peek at the old style Delta those rocket pods looked mean.
I used to use my Mustang Delta a LOT, a few years back. But yeah, it's become nearly obsolete for anything other than easy missions. I do suppose it'd be good against ground targets with those rocket pods, as well as anti-personnel.
Sometimes I think I’m taking crazy pills. The Mustangs (except the racer) have combat performance nearly on par with the Gladius. I have no problem clearing VHRTs in my Alpha, and the only reason I don’t do ERTs with it is because it takes too long to whittle down the shields of the Hammerhead-So long that you can actually run out of fuel mid-fight. I’ll always have Mustangs in my stable. I love how they handle, I love the view and the sound of the engines. -mustang evangelist
Combat is very popular in Star Citizen because it's the one with most rewards and ways of doing. The Delta was a fun ship the last time I tried. Certainly not the best but fun nonetheless. Unfortunately its competition makes the ship hard to recommend. Aurora LN and the Titan can do the job just as well and come with additional utility and at a lower price point.
I really think they should merge the Delta and the Beta now that the Alpha got it's cargo bay. There is no real reason for the Delta being so big without a real missile bay or something to justify its useless bulk.
This variant of the Mustang is currently probably the worst offered, you can just about do the same risk level missions with the Alpha but you can't do cargo and box missions, tiny benefit for a big cost. Also, don't call this ship a starter because there's no starter package for this, it's just the variant of a starter. There might yet be hope for the Delta once armour becomes a thing since it appears to have something special in that regard, or maybe as you suggested those rocket pods can be traded away for two missiles or even more guns. It has potential to be a good anti-light fighter or light anti-ground if it turns up capable of dogfighting in the style of a nimble ship, while being able to eat one or two more railgun shots and more economically engage ground targets.
I like the Delta a lot. I dont know if it still does it but the rockets move at the same speed as the cannon type weapons. I know a few patches ago the combo of rockets and I think it was Strife Mass Drivers made enemy ships move weird. Like it pushed them around and made returning fire or evading tough.
YES you do change the weapon loadout... yo drop the laser canons for repeaters 2 more badger... so you got 4 badgers 2 fix and 2 gimbal... if you go all gimbal you end up with the same loadout of the arrow... 2s1 and 2s2... where the Delta is lacking if those rocket launcher which cannot be changed for missiles... but otherwise in terme of fire power, ignoring the missiles/rockets... it has the same power than the arrow... the delta is just bigger, slower, but tougher,.. got the same maniability as the arrow, but less Gs of acceleration.
Rockets are not in a good spot currently. I've always seen the Delta as potentially a good ground attack fighter, using the rocket pods to terrorize infantry and light vehicles.
if you go full delta and want a bed... take the Beta... you gonna still have 2s1 and 2s2 you loose the rocket launchers but are they really wanted? and the Delta has a great advantage as an exploration ship... huge fuel tank... half the size of a caterpillar H2 fuel... and more quantum fuel too...
But the Delta has a better mobility 4S2 Slots and the rockets. If you want a dogfighter you don't need bed or a bigger fuel tank. And the Delta has better armour and additional bonus on stealth.
The 4xS2 weapons all fixed are a good option here.... The Mustang line have no trouble getting on target.... The rocket pods.... They mess things up.... The pips have a hard time with the differing shot speeds. If they removed the pods and locked in 2 yellow jackets instead, to keep a bit of flavour and not just have then auto swapped..... This ship would boost itself considerably in my opinion
the bad image of the mustang series results from being the cheapest starter ship, therefor being flown by the noobs who are unable to benefit from its agility. The mustangs are formidable dog fighters, even the alpha has same hardpoints (forced gimbal) as the arrow but twice the shields AND u can stuff 4 scu. Same weapons as hornet, if u put the 2 scu cargo pod in it. Wish they made a mid size super mustang with second seat and bigger guns...
I wonder how this ship will change when Armor will come into play, apparently it has a special armor coating which should make it stand out among it's sister ships.
Only time will tell, I suppose!
I love this small ship... The rocketpod is great against components. The hairbringer also comes with 2 on the turret. I like to use them, against small ships can get pretty effective! The ship also have internal storage if you can get behind the seat. I think all mustangs should have the option to leave the seat and go to the back, like the beta has.
Agreed!
The Armor on the ship when implemented should give it a huge boost compared to other ships. Though I would also like to see the Rocket slot also reworked.
I really hope we see more variety when armour mechanics come to play
Hope they add tracers to the rockets and make them proximity fuse
When the larger spectrum of combat enters the game - where combined forces of air & ground are better fleshed out - I look at the Delta as an excellent air-to-ground fighter, using its guns and especially its Jericho rockets as capable anti-personnel and anti-vehicle weapons.
Ooooh now that's an interesting idea!
Thx for considering my request for the delta :D see ya in the verse
:D
The mustang is my favourite ship in the game purely because a review of the mustang was how i accidentally discovered the game. It fives me so much nostalgia to when i discovered star citizen
Amazing how the game can create feelings like that!
I was surprised how well the Delta performs. But you have to upgrade the shields. For weapon i recommend full gimballed repeater loadout. Then you can use gimb mode on the first fire button and you have the rockets on the second for extra firepower when you need it.
One problem of the Delta is that it's a classcannon. When you take damage you will loose control very quickly.
But for the low ingame price it's a ship which you should give a try.
Thanks for sharing :)
As an aside.... Really appreciate your review style.... I have showed/bored my children to death with your ship reviews of ever ship I own, have owned and want to own.
Keep it up...
haha thank you, and sorry to your children :D
Never could enjoy the Mustang series, but really tried. There are better options for starters. Got nothing bad or good to say about the ship.
I do have to commend you on two aspects: you have made an informative video worth watching and you also had something good and nice to say about everything.
Nevermind the video, that mindest of not only registering the bad but also focusing on the good, is rare but you do it. Thats a good mindset for life. Well done!
Thanks Nils, I try to be as balanced as possible!
I really like the Delta because of its rocket pods. Its not that theyre "meta" but theyre unique, and if you want to use them, it makes you fly differently and that alone spices things up. Matched with a beautiful view in pilot seat, decent guns, and more than fair speed, its a fun ship to keep in your fleet.
This is my go-to ship for flying for fun, nothing like running the canyons of daymar in my Delta.. also I have taken on some ERTs in this bad boy. Don't sleep on this ship 😁
Wow, that's impressive!
Also... For only 100k ish more.... You can get the far superior Reliant Tana, rocking 6s2 weapons, and a bucket of missiles.
Plus with some changes coming Spon TM, the bed logging will become usable again.
Spon TM? xD for some reason I enjoyed that
Ha.... I got top marks in spalling and grammar
You compare two different ship styles. Delta is a dogfighter. And a good one. While the Tana is a little gunship/missile ship . 1vs1 Delta vs Tana the Delta will win most of the time.
Tana has a good firepower but also goes down very quickly. The interiour is good. But you don't need it in a dogfight.
A fair assessment...
AS someone who enjoys both DCS and Star Citizen I can say that the mustang delta leans more into the helicopter aspect than the aircraft aspect.
Due to the pure ballistic damage and the very low ripple of the jericho's I find the delta my go to ship during jumptown to provide excellent air to ground cover. It's super easy to do strafing runs at full speed and to pick out mobile targets like the nova tank and the ballista/centurion
My only criticism of this review, is that you didn't mention that its a stealth ship - the cheapest stealth ship in the game.
I imagine its intended purpose is to ambush players on planets. Stealth to get close without being detected, and general characteristics reminscient of an apache helicopter for air to ground assault. That's probably why they chose to give it those rocket pods.
Aside from that one nitpick, excellent review, as always.
Interesting! And never a nitpick, as much as I do my research and spend time aboard before publishing a review, other people also offer valuable perspectives!
Seeing what this once-awesome ship has been turned into by CIG makes me very sad. I used to own one, before they redesigned it. Back in the time when it still had an interior and bed. And back when the rocket pods still had real punching power. They were bloody hard to score a hit with but used to have similar damage to missiles, which made this light fighter excel against big opponents. A full load of Jericho missiles would tear through large ships as soon as the Delta got in their face. Now the rocket pods are just bugged ballistics cannons with almost no ammo unfortunately.
Such a sad story. 😞
:(
The mustang series of ships is really aesthetically pleasing to me personally. I used my delta for most of my game play. It's not the strongest ship and it's not the fastest ship, but to me it is one of the nicest looking and it's still a joy to fly.
In the end isn't that the point of it all? Finding the ship you personally enjoy the most and flying it around. If you enjoy a ship and it does what you need it to do, use the ship even if there's better options.
is the same for me, I got very big multi-crew ships but from time to time I dust off my Titan Renegade and go on a rampage on it XD
I'm actually not a big fan of the looks, but I can see how it would be appealing to others. That's one of the things I like about Star Citizen - different people are drawn to different ships
can’t wait for your Cutter Review
I'm really hoping I can find the time, I had a look at the weekend but it just wasn't long enough I think
@@Farrister Please, do take your time! There’s something to be said about fine wine taking it’s time so it’s all good :)
but please do talk about the interior detail and how it’s rather different than the drake of cutlass series we’re accustomed to. I think it would make an interesting talking point. In any case, can’t wait!
Keep em coming man! Love your videos.
Thank you, will do my best :)
I have one Farrister along with the AMD omega! Love my Mustangs❤
Oh wow - that AMD Omega is supposed to be quite rare!
I think the biggest let down for the Delta is the mix of permanently gimballed and fixed weapons. It means wonky aiming at moving targets, and since all the other variants have the same firepower available if you go fully gimballed (Not counting the rockets here, they are their own weirdness), you may as well get the utility of a living space or the cargo pod or extra engine. Which is a shame, I love the Mustang line as good economical little ships.
I know what you mean
I use the Delta with full gimballed repeaters. Then you have the rockets for additional damage output.
Had one long ago traded up right away 🤣. Good vid Farrister. o7 😎👍
Haha poor Mustang!
Since the rocket pods can't be removed, I think using it as a light close air support (CAS) fighter to support ground units could be useful.
Plus very cool!
That's exactly why I have one, an MH-6 Little Space Bird.
@@patrickspaceman305 I love the comparison, it really is like a little MH-6. :)
Cool vid
As Always
Thank you :)
The Alpha has cargo, in the same space the Beta has living accommodation and the Gamma/Omega have a third engine. The Delta has nothing.
You should have a peek at the old style Delta those rocket pods looked mean.
It just seems like a wasted opportunity!
I used to use my Mustang Delta a LOT, a few years back. But yeah, it's become nearly obsolete for anything other than easy missions. I do suppose it'd be good against ground targets with those rocket pods, as well as anti-personnel.
Quite possibly - will be very interesting to see if that's how it pans out!
as far as the mustangs go i think the best one is the beta because its like a camper van but rather stylish.
The Delta is fun for light targets in Atmosphere
As are many!
Sometimes I think I’m taking crazy pills. The Mustangs (except the racer) have combat performance nearly on par with the Gladius. I have no problem clearing VHRTs in my Alpha, and the only reason I don’t do ERTs with it is because it takes too long to whittle down the shields of the Hammerhead-So long that you can actually run out of fuel mid-fight.
I’ll always have Mustangs in my stable. I love how they handle, I love the view and the sound of the engines.
-mustang evangelist
Or perhaps you're just a better pilot than I am!
Combat is very popular in Star Citizen because it's the one with most rewards and ways of doing.
The Delta was a fun ship the last time I tried. Certainly not the best but fun nonetheless. Unfortunately its competition makes the ship hard to recommend. Aurora LN and the Titan can do the job just as well and come with additional utility and at a lower price point.
I'd like to see better balancing though where eg mining, cargo etc. have comparable rewards at the top of the tree
I want the mustang to be much better then it is
Like the explorer version, all it needs is long range jumping and I'd be happy
It'll be interesting to see what constitutes "long range" in the future too! Stanton is supposed to be comparatively small!
I really think they should merge the Delta and the Beta now that the Alpha got it's cargo bay. There is no real reason for the Delta being so big without a real missile bay or something to justify its useless bulk.
But it's cool xD
I prefer the Beta, still one of my favorite ships in the game.
Beta better?
@@Farrister Beta best!
According to erkul, the Delta is just as good as the Gladius.
Slightly higher dps and lower signatures, similar maneuverability, but squishier hull.
Hmmmmm lol
This variant of the Mustang is currently probably the worst offered, you can just about do the same risk level missions with the Alpha but you can't do cargo and box missions, tiny benefit for a big cost. Also, don't call this ship a starter because there's no starter package for this, it's just the variant of a starter.
There might yet be hope for the Delta once armour becomes a thing since it appears to have something special in that regard, or maybe as you suggested those rocket pods can be traded away for two missiles or even more guns. It has potential to be a good anti-light fighter or light anti-ground if it turns up capable of dogfighting in the style of a nimble ship, while being able to eat one or two more railgun shots and more economically engage ground targets.
Farrister, do you see the Delta as a cost effective fighter? For 65 IRL money vs say a Gladius or an F7?
I like the Delta a lot. I dont know if it still does it but the rockets move at the same speed as the cannon type weapons. I know a few patches ago the combo of rockets and I think it was Strife Mass Drivers made enemy ships move weird. Like it pushed them around and made returning fire or evading tough.
Oh that must have been strange!
@@Farrister indeed it was.
YES you do change the weapon loadout...
yo drop the laser canons for repeaters
2 more badger... so you got 4 badgers 2 fix and 2 gimbal...
if you go all gimbal you end up with the same loadout of the arrow... 2s1 and 2s2...
where the Delta is lacking if those rocket launcher which cannot be changed for missiles...
but otherwise in terme of fire power, ignoring the missiles/rockets... it has the same power than the arrow...
the delta is just bigger, slower, but tougher,.. got the same maniability as the arrow, but less Gs of acceleration.
I prefer gimballed repeaters and rockets for extra punch.
With gimballed you have a longer time on target which compensates the damage drop.
I find the cannons feel a better fit for the rocket pods
@@Farrister Cannons also work fine. But repeaters are better against smaller fighters . And also for PVP
Are you going to make a video abortus the RSI galaxy if it is out?
Maybe - but I'm not sure I expect it any time soon!
Rockets are not in a good spot currently. I've always seen the Delta as potentially a good ground attack fighter, using the rocket pods to terrorize infantry and light vehicles.
I like that idea
if you go full delta and want a bed... take the Beta... you gonna still have 2s1 and 2s2 you loose the rocket launchers but are they really wanted?
and the Delta has a great advantage as an exploration ship... huge fuel tank... half the size of a caterpillar H2 fuel...
and more quantum fuel too...
But the Delta has a better mobility 4S2 Slots and the rockets. If you want a dogfighter you don't need bed or a bigger fuel tank. And the Delta has better armour and additional bonus on stealth.
Gonna have to consider a Mustang variants comparison now xD
It's supposed to have advanced armor I seem to remember. Too bad that's not in the game yet.
I try to only focus on what's currently available in-game
Just CCU'd to this thing, and i accidentally exited the ship while in quantum warp. Safe to say ive never alt-f4'd faster in my life
Haha, oops!
After the IAE is done wouldn’t it be nice to make an updated best ships in star citizen so far with the new ships included ?
That would be such a subjective list though!
woo farrister video
Woohoooooo!
The 4xS2 weapons all fixed are a good option here.... The Mustang line have no trouble getting on target....
The rocket pods.... They mess things up.... The pips have a hard time with the differing shot speeds.
If they removed the pods and locked in 2 yellow jackets instead, to keep a bit of flavour and not just have then auto swapped..... This ship would boost itself considerably in my opinion
I know what you mean
the bad image of the mustang series results from being the cheapest starter ship, therefor being flown by the noobs who are unable to benefit from its agility. The mustangs are formidable dog fighters, even the alpha has same hardpoints (forced gimbal) as the arrow but twice the shields AND u can stuff 4 scu. Same weapons as hornet, if u put the 2 scu cargo pod in it. Wish they made a mid size super mustang with second seat and bigger guns...
Interesting!
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