Flipping love this guy 😃 such a good, enthusiastic and smart communicator! I get the vibe he'd answer any questions I had without making me feel stupid 😊
How would you view using AI as a jump-off point? For example using it to discuss particular areas of your paper you could put a focus on (e.g. focussing on the nuances of asymmetric cryptography instead of symmetric cryptography and why asymmetric cryptography is more widely used in practice), then going out and researching the subject yourself to find sources to write your paper with. I personally mainly use it to discuss topics I don't fully understand and in academic work, I only use it for inspiration or to get a general overview but would never copy or paraphrase anything it tells me.
This was highly informative and helpful to determine when AI could be used in the academic environment. However, with citations, using AI information does not allow any record of that information that can be retrieved by the end-reader. For most academic papers, I would be able to cross reference with the source material. How can I see the source material if it is lost in the internet?
You're right--this is one of the challenges (if I'm understanding your comment correctly). You would not be able to find the "source material," as the AI models produce unique (or mostly unique?) material for each inquiry a user makes. I'm not sure anyone has really solved this problem yet, on the teaching end, in a definitive way. However, what we're suggesting here is that by at least being really explicit with students about your standards, maybe showing them a video like this to clarify things, etc., you are doing better than ignoring the issue or being vague about it. -BRD
Hi George, I have a question. What if we ask ChatGPT to find a quote or specific article? I haven't done this because I bookmark my articles and old-school tab my hardcover books with post-it note flags, but it would be helpful not to always have my print books next to me for the quote and page number. Can you give me an example(s) of what that would look like? Thank you, Lidia
Hi LidiaPage--using ChatGPT (or other tools) in this way is a great idea! It would be similar, I would think, to using the internet (generally) to find things like this. I don't think people typically cite, say, Google (or another search engine) when they locate resources; they would just use and cite the resource. However, if you use ChatGPT to find a quote, and ChatGPT gives you that quote directly, within ChatGPT, and you want to use that quote in some research or include it in something you're writing, I would say two things: (1) it is always a good practice to go locate that source directly, whether in a book, article, or some other database, to ensure that the quote says what ChatGPT says it says; (2) if you feel you must use the quote directly from ChatGPT without looking up the source for yourself, then I think you have to cite ChatGPT, formally, as the source where you found the quote. -BRD
What if you use ai to reference your research as well even though some pages are not found but either did or do exist at some point as long it’s not a wiki?
If you find something through chatting with an AI tool, and you plan to use that directly, then you have to cite it--presumably by citing ChatGPT as your source, for example, if that's what you used. I don't think the original source or whether something is a Wiki or not would make a difference. The golden rule here is: Show your sources. -BRD
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You are clear and straightforward in your presentation and examples. Thank you so much!
Thanks for your comment!
Flipping love this guy 😃 such a good, enthusiastic and smart communicator! I get the vibe he'd answer any questions I had without making me feel stupid 😊
Thank you so much!!!
Thank you! I will definitely be sharing this with my students.
Thanks for sharing!
How would you view using AI as a jump-off point? For example using it to discuss particular areas of your paper you could put a focus on (e.g. focussing on the nuances of asymmetric cryptography instead of symmetric cryptography and why asymmetric cryptography is more widely used in practice), then going out and researching the subject yourself to find sources to write your paper with.
I personally mainly use it to discuss topics I don't fully understand and in academic work, I only use it for inspiration or to get a general overview but would never copy or paraphrase anything it tells me.
This was highly informative and helpful to determine when AI could be used in the academic environment. However, with citations, using AI information does not allow any record of that information that can be retrieved by the end-reader. For most academic papers, I would be able to cross reference with the source material. How can I see the source material if it is lost in the internet?
You're right--this is one of the challenges (if I'm understanding your comment correctly). You would not be able to find the "source material," as the AI models produce unique (or mostly unique?) material for each inquiry a user makes. I'm not sure anyone has really solved this problem yet, on the teaching end, in a definitive way. However, what we're suggesting here is that by at least being really explicit with students about your standards, maybe showing them a video like this to clarify things, etc., you are doing better than ignoring the issue or being vague about it. -BRD
Hi George, I have a question. What if we ask ChatGPT to find a quote or specific article? I haven't done this because I bookmark my articles and old-school tab my hardcover books with post-it note flags, but it would be helpful not to always have my print books next to me for the quote and page number. Can you give me an example(s) of what that would look like? Thank you, Lidia
Hi LidiaPage--using ChatGPT (or other tools) in this way is a great idea! It would be similar, I would think, to using the internet (generally) to find things like this. I don't think people typically cite, say, Google (or another search engine) when they locate resources; they would just use and cite the resource. However, if you use ChatGPT to find a quote, and ChatGPT gives you that quote directly, within ChatGPT, and you want to use that quote in some research or include it in something you're writing, I would say two things: (1) it is always a good practice to go locate that source directly, whether in a book, article, or some other database, to ensure that the quote says what ChatGPT says it says; (2) if you feel you must use the quote directly from ChatGPT without looking up the source for yourself, then I think you have to cite ChatGPT, formally, as the source where you found the quote. -BRD
Excellent advice--thanks, Brian
Thank you! -BRD
I dont call it cheating not unless I will be caught by my professor however, I will still be used the Undetectable AI paper
What if you use ai to reference your research as well even though some pages are not found but either did or do exist at some point as long it’s not a wiki?
If you find something through chatting with an AI tool, and you plan to use that directly, then you have to cite it--presumably by citing ChatGPT as your source, for example, if that's what you used. I don't think the original source or whether something is a Wiki or not would make a difference. The golden rule here is: Show your sources. -BRD
Your title is an oxymoron.