The group wardrobe looks like a combination of Western, Polynesian, Aztec and a dash of 1970s tie died Hippie patterns. Glad to see you guys having fun with Jon.
Seth, the very least y’all can do, is print up Unauthorized History stitching on those shirts; so we can show y’all some appreciation for all y’all’s hard work. A memento especially for many of us who found y’all’s broadcast early on. Can I get a second?
Thank you very much. Here is something that I hope is relevant to your latest videos. I got this from my uncle Press’s obituary. Richland Springs is about 85 miles from Fredericksburg, TX. Press never wanted to talk much about his WW2 experiences. - George Presley "Press" Adams, 92, of Richland Springs, Tx, passed away peacefully in his home surrounded by his family on Tuesday, July 25, 2017. He joined the United States Marine Corps in 1942. He served two tours in the Pacific Theater of War during World War II as a turret gunner on a torpedo bomber. During the first tour, he flew missions from the islands of Guadalcanal, Munda and Bougainville. In his second tour, he flew missions from the aircraft carrier USS Gilbert Islands. During his time in the Marine Corps he was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross and five Air Medals. He was discharged in 1945 with the rank of Staff Sergeant. He was also a recipient of the Purple Heart. -
DATELINE KYIV OBLAST Hello @billyhouse1943: Thank you for sharing your uncle's obituary. As it happened, my uncle Francis ("Frank) J. Bushman, Jr., also joined the US Marine Corps in early 1942. Like "Press", Frank was a Radioman/Tunnel Gunner, who flew in the Grumman TBF Avenger aircraft. Frank also survived World War II, 1942 - 1946, but regrettably he never overcame the after effects of his service during the war. In recent years, I've begun researching the historical records (such as they exist) in an effort to ferret out details related to Frank's service. To the best of my knowledge there were three main USMC aviation detachments that served in the South Pacific flying combat missions in the TBF Avenger, 1942 - 1946: VMO-1; VMO-2; and VMO-4. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMO-1/; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMO-2/; and hma1369.tripod.com/vmo4.html/. In the event that you're also researching your uncle's service in WWII, I would be interested in comparing notes with you at some point. My personal email address: coshea00@gmail.com. Thank you. S/F - IB An American in Ukraine (2019 - Present)
My Father was a Navy Corpsman in many island invasions who was wounded 3 times & never put himself on the Purple Heart list because of all the Marines & other Corpsmen who were more deserving.
Hey Billy thanks for sharing the story of your Uncles service. I’m Australian and have always had a special interest regarding the battles in and around the Solomon’s.
Once again the GOAT of UA-cam history channels graces us with another exceptional presentation, this needs to be sponsored by the DoD to become the Authorized History of the Pacific War Podcast tbh
@@flparkermdpc are you kidding? Ofcourse they would, I could barely see them from the neck down. Gives the Chinese marines a run for their money with even compared to their legendary blue camo
My Uncle, Burton Catlett was killed there at Leyte by a sharp shooter. He was a country boy, drafted, already had been wounded but insisted on being sent back to help his buddies. He got two Purple Hearts.His parents and 11 siblings never got over their family’s loss, like thousands of other families. I know God has blessed their souls. Thank you Sirs, Regenia Fortenberry
Wonderful comment. 😢 It's very reminiscent of Seymour Levy, age 17, òn Pelilieu. Wounded, clearly, combat ineffective, but, he had the gift of presence.❤@Jakal-pw8yq
I can't stop listening to this channel, growing up in the UK with Grandparents in WW2, I had no idea of the Pacific war. But now I live in Australia and have visited a lot of these places. The expertise and presentation is bar none. Keep up the good work guys.
Hey Mate, I found this 3 seasons ago, check out USS Washington vs. KIRISHIMA and her 12 escorts. Episode 124, The Night the Giants Rode, in Iron Bottom Sound. Epic storytelling, with. JON PARSHALL.
Thanks again gentleman, you do such a great job of bringing history to life. My Tuesdays will not be the same when this is finished. Please please consider another project for the future.
I just finished reading Battleship Commander by Paul Stillwell and he spoke about Lee's disappointment at being ordered away from the landing zone. Excellent episode as always. Thanks for your efforts.
You and I know he’d never ever actually have done it, but I’ll bet the next time Admiral Ching Lee ran into Halsey, he would’ve been thinking, and at some brief point, tempted to give him a big fat, head turning: “… I told ya so, …Sir!”
Bill references Viscount Slim, on the Burma campaign. His book “Defeat into Victory”, first published in 1956 when he was 13th Governor General of Australia, is an absolute classic.
Slim was quite a man. Became GG later. The best book on Burma is by the Flashman author. A tough bastard in a bizarre North of England regiment.Quartered Safe Out There by George MacDonald Fraser. One of the best British books of WW2.
I can't believe you 3 haven't commented yet on your group matching shirts yet!!😅😅.. its just awesome..I really do look forward to ever episode not only for detailed information but the chuckles and smiles I get from the camaraderie of 3 good friends talking about a subject that's a interest to us all..
Thank you gentlemen for your GREAT WORK!! As the son of a naval pilot in WWII I’ve waited eagerly for every podcast. As an aside I must mention that Jon P. likes an unseemly amount of ice in his water - an affliction which I share!
I love the matching shirts, boys. Great pleasure watching the great trio. Also in terms of Halsey run to the north, my uncle who was an officer in USN, he said as a military man, having implications or guesses while having unknown intel on the disposition of the enemy is a very dangerous thing especially when you have lots of men under your command.
One thing I believe you guys missed is the absolutely abysmal job the USN did in regard to the survivors of the Taffy 3 sinkings. Those men spent days in the water with little to no effort to search for them, with the result that many of them died who wouldn't have.
Many of those guys spent 3 to 4 days in the ocean. Many of the wounded died while in the water. The Navy's utter incompetence about searching for survivors is criminal. Nothing could be said during the war because of civilian morale.
AGREED. -- Apparently rescuers were ordered to "stand-down" due to "threat of submarines" until one ship disobeyed and commenced rescues. -- Should have resulted in consequences.
When weighing up Bull Halsey good in Guadalcanal/Solomons, questionable at Leyte Gulf, we really have to add in the Formosa raid. The effect it had in sucking in all the air groups from the Northern Force which were then unable to provide cover to the Centre Force was significant. It may not have been sufficient to swing the battle off Samar, but would have certainly changed the dynamics of the attacks on Centre Force in Sibuyan Sea and off Samar. The topic of whether he was reckless and got lucky at Formosa then intrudes, but if it were lucky there, that luck continued to Cape Engano.
I really look forward to a new episode each week. I watched your most recent video this morning about the liberation of Santo Tomas. Very well done. But I want to digress: I watched the Victory At Sea episode about the Battle of Leyte Gulf last night. I was surprised at how well that was done. A few things seemed to be covered a little out of order, like the events surrounding Halsey's "taking the bait" trip. But all in all, quite well done. I grew up on the Victory at Sea series. It was the only way to feed my interest in the Pacific War back in the 50s and 60s. My uncle was in the 11th Airborne, the 187th Par Glider Infantry to be specific. He gave his life attacking the Genko line South of Manila. My mother made sure that I knew the story. She would drive me around and show me the factories she worked in in Los Angles. But when the war ships were open to civilians, she would take me with her for a tour. I'm rambling. Thanks again guys.
Thanks, once again, guys. I really appreciate your efforts to provide us with these informative and entertaining talks. Love the shirts. Your conversion will be complete when we see Seth and Bill's wallpapers change.
Pity you won't be examining Bill Slim in detail: he was truly a remarkable general of sterling character. As ever, your shows are great. Cheers from Australia.
I couldn't hear because of the shirts. It was funniest because they were not mentioned until 35 minutes into the show. I kept hoping Seth would drop in, after the closing remarks, Jon's reaction when he first saw them. One for the bloopers reel for sure. Great content as usual. You guys rock.
As the trend and fashion of bell bottom pants came and went,I hope the fashion of those shirts never take off.Thanks guys,for bringing back the memory of those valiant men who fought it out on the high seas,in a battle of life and death for each one's country.
Guys another comment, regards Seth's comment on the follow up strikes regards 'exhaustion' he is totally right in his analysis. Bill would know this far better than me as a submarine CO. I was only a "skimmer" CO but exhaustion is a very, VERY real issue. I never fought a war (thank god) but exhaustion WILL make you make bad decisions. Again I am repeating myself but you three exemptional people NAIL the reality of warfare. THANKS!!!!!
As we progressed to this concĺusion to the naval battles at Leyte, and previously at Philippine Sea, when the US Navy brought down the hammer that had been building since the refloat of the Pearl Harbor battleship fleet began in December 1941, we have gone from cheering American successes while we were still the nominal underdogs, to genuine pity for the needless waste when the outcome was no longer in doubt, and only the body counts needed totals. This latest episode was pretty devoid of cheers at the end, not least to avoid the shame of piling on, except where it was deserved. The Japanese 😮did plenty to deserve what they got by starting a war they could not win, and the barbaric conduct of their forces from the beginning when they held sway over defenseless masses of people which were slaughtered almost 20:1 if I correctly recall Richard Frank's Downfall epìsode. The quiet at the end of battle is the loudest comment. I notice that excess margin in our forces bred sloppy thinking when our flag men were looking for points to apply those forces. As it turned out those Manhattans served to firm the minds of the Japanese to STOP allowed most of the massive American mobilization to go home and build what we enjoy today. To excess it appears. Now only purpose is hard to find, and again the cycle repeats.
Another great show. My Dad was in the Pacific on the USS Hobbs. But, they were never in combat. Everyone who volunteered or drafted, wanted to do thier duty. Bless Thier souls.
According to my sources (Lexington [CV-16] war diary; VF-19 squadron history; combat report of my dad), the widely-reproduced photo of Zuiho @1:11:53 was taken by a VF-19 F6F photo plane/pilot on 25 October, and bulged flight deck and interior damage from the lone hit of that morning strike came from a 500 lb. S.A.P. bomb hit delivered by my dad, flying an F6F-5 from Lexington with that morning strike. He was awarded a Navy Cross, and when VF-19's combat tour ended, after his month's leave, having demonstrated some ability to hit a fairly large ship with a bomb, he was reassigned to VBF-150, flying F4U-4s. He trained with VBF-150 through the spring and summer of 1945, but the war ended before his new training became relevant. New, perhaps better sources (and the addition of Japanese sources) may supercede that information, but that's what I got from my visit to NARA some years ago to research dad's career. See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Foresman_Schoch.
Thanks very much gentlemen. As the son of a "late/post Korea" Navy man (CV-47), I now have, for the first time, a near complete understanding and appreciation of the size and significance of The Battle of Leyte Gulf - and in chronological context. Thank you for the gift.
The co-ordinated strike package of those shirts overwhelmed all opposition. 😅 Question or suggestion for a future episode: From Dec. 7, 1941 to end of Pacific War, a summary of technological advances by USN vs. IJN. Just a suggestion. Sincere thank you for making Tuesday a special day to look forward to.
Our culture values human life [so long as that life helps the privileged class to make more money]. The Asian cultures especially the Japanese, prior to the end of WWII, inculcated their members with the idea that the social group was more important than individual and that they (the people) owed the Emperor their lives. They had been programed to sacrifice themselves all their lives, such a pitty but, thank God or we might still be fighting that damn war, or are we?
Regarding the fatigue of USN pilots during this battle: the attack on maneuvering Japanese ships involves aiming your aircraft with precision. Fatigue impacts those motor skills and mental concentration, just enough to move what may have been hits to near misses. Luckily, quantity has a quality all it’s own.
Hey guys your the best. My Dad was a survivor of CV-2, he was an AO. They sent him home to Fort Worth, Texas, and then he was flown onto CV-6 as an ACO in 43-44. He told me once or twice that he saw enough war for both of us. Long gone, but never forgotten.
The Uniform of the Day - Sartorial Splendor! Chosen, perhaps, to emphasize the extent to which Allied Forces in the Pacific (preponderantly, but not entirely U.S.forces) had grown from early 1942’s separate, almost random, exemplars of courageous resistance to the ostentatious demonstrators of overwhelming superiority of late 1944.
The shirts should be called 'Fractal-Flowers." Bill, it is something of a different kind of uniform, and a-hell-of-a-lot more comfortable than dress-white stovepipes, LOL. Guys I think it gives you a kind of team look. It's kind of cool.
Oh lord those shirts! Well least your all uniform now, is this going to be the new thing for guests? Appear 5 times and get a complimentary "Hippy puke" Hawaiian shirt? 😅 Do any of you know if the diverting aircraft headed to Luzon or even Formosa were picked up some how by the US fleet, be by radio or possibly some kind of picket destroyer.....if that tactic was in play at this time? I'm asking because it possible that may have convinced Halsey the Japanese were definitely going to use shuttle bombing.....especially if the reciprocal of the actual course the aircraft were flying was passed on. Kind of suprised the Japanese didn't just reverse engineer a Bofors and produce without a license. I'm sure they wouldn't have been worried about legal issues by this point. I'm sure they must have known about its existence and have trialed it at some point. The pilots that survived and returned thru the war must have mentioned how effective they were from the received side. Could some of the American fliers been held back as the news of Taffy 3 came thru because the Captains expected to be ordered to run to help? Thank God for that Japanese need for theatrics and tardiness to order abandon ship....who knows what they could have done had they saved more experienced Sailors and airmen from their ships. Kind of wonder when talking about Zuiho, if maybe the massive loss of lives on other ships past and present is more a result of bad damage control, meaning large pockets of men were just stuck unable to find a way out by fire and flooding when the ships went down. Completely agree with you guys that Halsey gets relieved if he loses the Cruisers. Wonder if his staff was dithering and not assisting Halsey to give less contradictory orders in regards this whole battle. Wonder if having had to husband small forces for so long while at Numea somehow made them risk adverse when finally given a largess to say the least of forces. Kurita making it to the beachhead may not change the way the war ends but would bet it would slow down the advance as the Navy,Army and allies would pause to reconsider Amphibious Doctrine for future landings. So maybe extend the war by a year? (Provided the A-bombs are not historically available...and maybe even then?) Ok done for the week....I promise to write a book one day instead of trying to do it in comments to you guys😂
Beware of blasting someone, using a ton of hindsight, when the person being blasted is low on hindsight, low on good intelligence, and has a high level of advise from staff/advisers suggesting a course of action. But having vented my immediate thoughts , you have been putting forward a lot of good information in your series. Keep it up and thanks.
Are there still WW2 files that remain classified that may yet change narratives on Halsey's actions, or, for that matter, other actions in any theater of WW2?
As one of earliest histories of Leyte by the distinguished historians H Van Woodward noted there is irony of the name of this aspect of the battle--engano means deception in Spanish.
Thank you gents. Another stellar breakdown of the events as they really happened. Not only are we in your debt, but the entire body of historians in the future owe you as well.
Good to hear Jon’s reference to HP Willmott, and excellent historian whose book on the battle is a little dense but perhaps the best single volume work, especially on the logistics.
One thing I noticed in various movies with some real video, Bombers tend to attack perpendicular to the craft. If I were flying and had the strength, I would do lengthwise and aim for mid ships. If I release early or late, I hit the target. More hits maybe more AA but hard to say. I never understood the concept as if they were laying in torpedoes on the ships. This is a most interesting and informative show on these battles. Fantastic.
HAHAHA AHHH THE SHIRTS ARE FANTASTIC BOYS!
Triplets!
Agreed. Love the shirts!
Indeed! I had to turn the volume up to hear the gents over those loud shirts...
great 'uniform' new garden center camouflage
You guys have the makings of a new clothing brand. HPWP
Undoubtedly the best WW2 program on UA-cam.
100%
Many thanks all.
I love it when a new Unauthorized History of the Pacific War Podcast drops.
I see both Seth & the good captain got Jon Parshalled 😂 It was bound to happen 😂
Dear God! The shirts! They hurt my eyes... Though I smirk in darkness.
Thanks gentlemen for your humor and sagacity.
😁
@@davekelsey8762
The shirts remind of some I wear on the golf course. If you can't beat 'em. Blind 'em.
The group wardrobe looks like a combination of Western, Polynesian, Aztec and a dash of 1970s tie died Hippie patterns. Glad to see you guys having fun with Jon.
We always have fun with Jon.
Seth, the very least y’all can do, is print up Unauthorized History stitching on those shirts; so we can show y’all some appreciation for all y’all’s hard work.
A memento especially for many of us who found y’all’s broadcast early on.
Can I get a second?
Turn them into the HPWP clothing brand.
So moved!
Here here, design it, approve it, stitch it, sell it and send it !
I would love to sport and Unauthorized shirt such as these…
Thank you very much. Here is something that I hope is relevant to your latest videos. I got this from my uncle Press’s obituary. Richland Springs is about 85 miles from Fredericksburg, TX. Press never wanted to talk much about his WW2 experiences. - George Presley "Press" Adams, 92, of Richland Springs, Tx, passed away peacefully in his home surrounded by his family on Tuesday, July 25, 2017. He joined the United States Marine Corps in 1942. He served two tours in the Pacific Theater of War during World War II as a turret gunner on a torpedo bomber. During the first tour, he flew missions from the islands of Guadalcanal, Munda and Bougainville. In his second tour, he flew missions from the aircraft carrier USS Gilbert Islands. During his time in the Marine Corps he was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross and five Air Medals. He was discharged in 1945 with the rank of Staff Sergeant. He was also a recipient of the Purple Heart. -
DATELINE KYIV OBLAST
Hello @billyhouse1943:
Thank you for sharing your uncle's obituary. As it happened, my uncle Francis ("Frank) J. Bushman, Jr., also joined the US Marine Corps in early 1942. Like "Press", Frank was a Radioman/Tunnel Gunner, who flew in the Grumman TBF Avenger aircraft. Frank also survived World War II, 1942 - 1946, but regrettably he never overcame the after effects of his service during the war.
In recent years, I've begun researching the historical records (such as they exist) in an effort to ferret out details related to Frank's service. To the best of my knowledge there were three main USMC aviation detachments that served in the South Pacific flying combat missions in the TBF Avenger, 1942 - 1946: VMO-1; VMO-2; and VMO-4. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMO-1/; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMO-2/; and hma1369.tripod.com/vmo4.html/.
In the event that you're also researching your uncle's service in WWII, I would be interested in comparing notes with you at some point. My personal email address: coshea00@gmail.com. Thank you.
S/F - IB
An American in Ukraine
(2019 - Present)
Get a copy of his DFC citation
My Father was a Navy Corpsman in many island invasions who was wounded 3 times & never put himself on the Purple Heart list because of all the Marines & other Corpsmen who were more deserving.
Hey Billy thanks for sharing the story of your Uncles service. I’m Australian and have always had a special interest regarding the battles in and around the Solomon’s.
It sounds like he should have been a squadron leader and a Captain.
Some great thi came from that part of the country...Nimitz, for one.
Once again the GOAT of UA-cam history channels graces us with another exceptional presentation, this needs to be sponsored by the DoD to become the Authorized History of the Pacific War Podcast tbh
Do you think those shirts we would fly as authorized camo?
@@flparkermdpc are you kidding? Ofcourse they would, I could barely see them from the neck down. Gives the Chinese marines a run for their money with even compared to their legendary blue camo
My Uncle, Burton Catlett was killed there at Leyte by a sharp shooter. He was a country boy, drafted, already had been wounded but insisted on being sent back to help his buddies. He got two Purple Hearts.His parents and 11 siblings never got over their family’s loss, like thousands of other families. I know God has blessed their souls. Thank you Sirs, Regenia Fortenberry
Sorry for your loss, even at this distance in time.
Wonderful comment. 😢 It's very reminiscent of Seymour Levy, age 17, òn Pelilieu. Wounded, clearly, combat ineffective, but, he had the gift of presence.❤@Jakal-pw8yq
My family never got over my uncle's loss fighting near Manila. He was the baby of the family. I'm sorry for your uncle's loss.
Love the matching shirts!❤
Just another wonderfull match won for Camp Shelby Bulls ;)
I can't stop listening to this channel, growing up in the UK with Grandparents in WW2, I had no idea of the Pacific war. But now I live in Australia and have visited a lot of these places. The expertise and presentation is bar none. Keep up the good work guys.
Hey Mate, I found this 3 seasons ago, check out USS Washington vs. KIRISHIMA and her 12 escorts.
Episode 124, The Night the Giants Rode, in Iron Bottom Sound.
Epic storytelling, with. JON PARSHALL.
EPISODE 123.
Thanks again gentleman, you do such a great job of bringing history to life. My Tuesdays will not be the same when this is finished. Please please consider another project for the future.
I second……
I'm hoping for a CBI theater series. A lot is largely unknown
I just finished reading Battleship Commander by Paul Stillwell and he spoke about Lee's disappointment at being ordered away from the landing zone. Excellent episode as always. Thanks for your efforts.
You and I know he’d never ever actually have done it, but I’ll bet the next time Admiral Ching Lee ran into Halsey, he would’ve been thinking, and at some brief point, tempted to give him a big fat, head turning:
“… I told ya so, …Sir!”
The shirts make me wanna buy these guys a round of beers. 😅
Maybe some Mai Tai's?
@@DrNickAG Even better, yeah! 🙂
That's what I'm talking about!
"Get off the ship! Get off the ship! It's clearly time to get off of the ship!!" I love this program! Keep up the great work!!
Bill references Viscount Slim, on the Burma campaign. His book “Defeat into Victory”, first published in 1956 when he was 13th Governor General of Australia, is an absolute classic.
Totally agree.
Slim was quite a man. Became GG later. The best book on Burma is by the Flashman author. A tough bastard in a bizarre North of England regiment.Quartered Safe Out There by George MacDonald Fraser. One of the best British books of WW2.
This is the only show that i actually wait every week with anticipation for the next amazing episode, you guys are great please keep it up!!❤
Happy Tuesday!! Can't get my head around the line "The USN had more destroyers at Leyte Gulf than the IJN had carrier planes". Wow!
The boys are in uniform, in their new camo pattern !
Appropriate for a Saturday night commando raid on Nicki's Tropic Club
I can't believe you 3 haven't commented yet on your group matching shirts yet!!😅😅.. its just awesome..I really do look forward to ever episode not only for detailed information but the chuckles and smiles I get from the camaraderie of 3 good friends talking about a subject that's a interest to us all..
Great show gentlemen.
Thank you gentlemen for your GREAT WORK!! As the son of a naval pilot in WWII I’ve waited eagerly for every podcast. As an aside I must mention that Jon P. likes an unseemly amount of ice in his water - an affliction which I share!
I love the matching shirts, boys. Great pleasure watching the great trio. Also in terms of Halsey run to the north, my uncle who was an officer in USN, he said as a military man, having implications or guesses while having unknown intel on the disposition of the enemy is a very dangerous thing especially when you have lots of men under your command.
One thing I believe you guys missed is the absolutely abysmal job the USN did in regard to the survivors of the Taffy 3 sinkings. Those men spent days in the water with little to no effort to search for them, with the result that many of them died who wouldn't have.
Many of those guys spent 3 to 4 days in the ocean. Many of the wounded died while in the water. The Navy's utter incompetence about searching for survivors is criminal. Nothing could be said during the war because of civilian morale.
AGREED. -- Apparently rescuers were ordered to "stand-down" due to "threat of submarines" until one ship disobeyed and commenced rescues. -- Should have resulted in consequences.
Tuesdays are the best days because of your show. Thank you.
When weighing up Bull Halsey good in Guadalcanal/Solomons, questionable at Leyte Gulf, we really have to add in the Formosa raid.
The effect it had in sucking in all the air groups from the Northern Force which were then unable to provide cover to the Centre Force was significant. It may not have been sufficient to swing the battle off Samar, but would have certainly changed the dynamics of the attacks on Centre Force in Sibuyan Sea and off Samar.
The topic of whether he was reckless and got lucky at Formosa then intrudes, but if it were lucky there, that luck continued to Cape Engano.
What a great team for story time...
I really look forward to a new episode each week. I watched your most recent video this morning about the liberation of Santo Tomas. Very well done. But I want to digress: I watched the Victory At Sea episode about the Battle of Leyte Gulf last night. I was surprised at how well that was done. A few things seemed to be covered a little out of order, like the events surrounding Halsey's "taking the bait" trip. But all in all, quite well done. I grew up on the Victory at Sea series. It was the only way to feed my interest in the Pacific War back in the 50s and 60s. My uncle was in the 11th Airborne, the 187th Par Glider Infantry to be specific. He gave his life attacking the Genko line South of Manila. My mother made sure that I knew the story. She would drive me around and show me the factories she worked in in Los Angles. But when the war ships were open to civilians, she would take me with her for a tour. I'm rambling. Thanks again guys.
If i don't get one of those shirts my life wont be complete!
Adaychic is the vendor.
Thanks!!
@@jonparshall thanks Jon, I went on the site and had to restrain myself from buying one of each lol
Awesome Uniform Boys 😁 Love the Shirts! 😍
Matching shirts. Jon becomes a poet. Seth quotes ZZ Top. Bill is clutch as always.
Great episode gentlemen!
Thanks, once again, guys. I really appreciate your efforts to provide us with these informative and entertaining talks.
Love the shirts. Your conversion will be complete when we see Seth and Bill's wallpapers change.
Pity you won't be examining Bill Slim in detail: he was truly a remarkable general of sterling character. As ever, your shows are great. Cheers from Australia.
Great one as always. Sorry I didn't get the shirt memo before starting the video.
I couldn't hear because of the shirts. It was funniest because they were not mentioned until 35 minutes into the show. I kept hoping Seth would drop in, after the closing remarks, Jon's reaction when he first saw them. One for the bloopers reel for sure. Great content as usual. You guys rock.
As the trend and fashion of bell bottom pants came and went,I hope the fashion of those shirts never take off.Thanks guys,for bringing back the memory of those valiant men who fought it out on the high seas,in a battle of life and death for each one's country.
Guys another comment, regards Seth's comment on the follow up strikes regards 'exhaustion' he is totally right in his analysis. Bill would know this far better than me as a submarine CO. I was only a "skimmer" CO but exhaustion is a very, VERY real issue. I never fought a war (thank god) but exhaustion WILL make you make bad decisions. Again I am repeating myself but you three exemptional people NAIL the reality of warfare. THANKS!!!!!
Buy the shirts in bulk, get a nice discount! Thanks for the great history channel, guys!
Feeling like I've gotten to know you guys. Such a privilege.
They are not shirts. They are camouflage jackets. LUV 'EM
Now I want a shirt too!
Thanks for your perspective on the human aspects of the war for both sides
As we progressed to this concĺusion to the naval battles at Leyte, and previously at Philippine Sea, when the US Navy brought down the hammer that had been building since the refloat of the Pearl Harbor battleship fleet began in December 1941, we have gone from cheering American successes while we were still the nominal underdogs, to genuine pity for the needless waste when the outcome was no longer in doubt, and only the body counts needed totals. This latest episode was pretty devoid of cheers at the end, not least to avoid the shame of piling on, except where it was deserved. The Japanese 😮did plenty to deserve what they got by starting a war they could not win, and the barbaric conduct of their forces from the beginning when they held sway over defenseless masses of people which were slaughtered almost 20:1 if I correctly recall Richard Frank's Downfall epìsode. The quiet at the end of battle is the loudest comment. I notice that excess margin in our forces bred sloppy thinking when our flag men were looking for points to apply those forces. As it turned out those Manhattans served to firm the minds of the Japanese to STOP allowed most of the massive American mobilization to go home and build what we enjoy today. To excess it appears. Now only purpose is hard to find, and again the cycle repeats.
Why did the Navy decline to pick up Japanese survivors?
Alright you guys, whose idea was it to do the wardrobe?
I, too, loved the Ise as a young boy and built the model. Cool Battleship and carrier! Shirts as well guys!
"I've read this book. Your conclusions are all wrong! Halsey acted stupidly."
Another great show. My Dad was in the Pacific on the USS Hobbs. But, they were never in combat. Everyone who volunteered or drafted, wanted to do thier duty. Bless Thier souls.
This has been an excellent series. However I would have liked to heard more about the ordeal the survivors of Taffy 3 had to endure.
Good stuff guys. But those shirts, unless you’re going astern….green to port and red to starboard?
You guys should start selling some merchandise. Especially shirts!
The Battle of Leyte Gulf may have been the largest naval battle as far as the area it involved.
Attendance at this session is about 60 classrooms. A testament to the increasing popularity, and deservedly so. Well done gentlemen.
Those shirts are fantastic camouflage... all I can see is three loud shirts and hear three disembodied voices haha
A hundred years from now people will wonder why historians always wear Hawaiian shirts when giving a formal presentation....
EVERYTHING clashes with that wallpaper!
This is awesome! thank you!!
Spruance deserved the 5th star more than Halsey [or MacArthur for that matter].
Completely agree.
C'MON! YOU'RE ALL JUST TROLLING ME NOW!!!
JON! SETH! COMMODORE! I NEED THAT SHIRT!
Hey...the shirts... 😀. Another terrific program. Simply an amazing podcast.
According to my sources (Lexington [CV-16] war diary; VF-19 squadron history; combat report of my dad), the widely-reproduced photo of Zuiho @1:11:53 was taken by a VF-19 F6F photo plane/pilot on 25 October, and bulged flight deck and interior damage from the lone hit of that morning strike came from a 500 lb. S.A.P. bomb hit delivered by my dad, flying an F6F-5 from Lexington with that morning strike. He was awarded a Navy Cross, and when VF-19's combat tour ended, after his month's leave, having demonstrated some ability to hit a fairly large ship with a bomb, he was reassigned to VBF-150, flying F4U-4s. He trained with VBF-150 through the spring and summer of 1945, but the war ended before his new training became relevant. New, perhaps better sources (and the addition of Japanese sources) may supercede that information, but that's what I got from my visit to NARA some years ago to research dad's career. See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Foresman_Schoch.
Thanks very much gentlemen. As the son of a "late/post Korea" Navy man (CV-47), I now have, for the first time, a near complete understanding and appreciation of the size and significance of The Battle of Leyte Gulf - and in chronological context. Thank you for the gift.
The co-ordinated strike package of those shirts overwhelmed all opposition. 😅 Question or suggestion for a future episode: From Dec. 7, 1941 to end of Pacific War, a summary of technological advances by USN vs. IJN. Just a suggestion. Sincere thank you for making Tuesday a special day to look forward to.
Our culture values human life [so long as that life helps the privileged class to make more money]. The Asian cultures especially the Japanese, prior to the end of WWII, inculcated their members with the idea that the social group was more important than individual and that they (the people) owed the Emperor their lives. They had been programed to sacrifice themselves all their lives, such a pitty but, thank God or we might still be fighting that damn war, or are we?
Regarding the fatigue of USN pilots during this battle: the attack on maneuvering Japanese ships involves aiming your aircraft with precision. Fatigue impacts those motor skills and mental concentration, just enough to move what may have been hits to near misses. Luckily, quantity has a quality all it’s own.
Are those the latest Navy camo shirts? 🙄
You guys really have your shirts together. Tuesday mornings are reserved for your historical insights.
The shirts ... You guys are too much !
Now, if only there were shirts available that matched John Parshall's wallpaper ! That would be truly amazing.
Many people don't know that the Japanese carrier Hosho was with Yamamato's group at Midway.
Hey guys your the best. My Dad was a survivor of CV-2, he was an AO. They sent him home to Fort Worth, Texas, and then he was flown onto CV-6 as an ACO in 43-44. He told me once or twice that he saw enough war for both of us. Long gone, but never forgotten.
*Salute* Oh the things he must've done and seen on both legendary ships.
The Uniform of the Day - Sartorial Splendor!
Chosen, perhaps, to emphasize the extent to which Allied Forces in the Pacific (preponderantly, but not entirely U.S.forces) had grown from early 1942’s separate, almost random, exemplars of courageous resistance to the ostentatious demonstrators of overwhelming superiority of late 1944.
Gents,
Nice shirts. Another very engaging and informative conversation. Thank you very much.
V/r - Chris
Did our three heroes drive thru Earl Sheib’s in a top down convertible?
The shirts should be called 'Fractal-Flowers." Bill, it is something of a different kind of uniform, and a-hell-of-a-lot more comfortable than dress-white stovepipes, LOL. Guys I think it gives you a kind of team look. It's kind of cool.
Oh lord those shirts! Well least your all uniform now, is this going to be the new thing for guests? Appear 5 times and get a complimentary "Hippy puke" Hawaiian shirt? 😅
Do any of you know if the diverting aircraft headed to Luzon or even Formosa were picked up some how by the US fleet, be by radio or possibly some kind of picket destroyer.....if that tactic was in play at this time? I'm asking because it possible that may have convinced Halsey the Japanese were definitely going to use shuttle bombing.....especially if the reciprocal of the actual course the aircraft were flying was passed on.
Kind of suprised the Japanese didn't just reverse engineer a Bofors and produce without a license. I'm sure they wouldn't have been worried about legal issues by this point. I'm sure they must have known about its existence and have trialed it at some point. The pilots that survived and returned thru the war must have mentioned how effective they were from the received side.
Could some of the American fliers been held back as the news of Taffy 3 came thru because the Captains expected to be ordered to run to help? Thank God for that Japanese need for theatrics and tardiness to order abandon ship....who knows what they could have done had they saved more experienced Sailors and airmen from their ships. Kind of wonder when talking about Zuiho, if maybe the massive loss of lives on other ships past and present is more a result of bad damage control, meaning large pockets of men were just stuck unable to find a way out by fire and flooding when the ships went down.
Completely agree with you guys that Halsey gets relieved if he loses the Cruisers. Wonder if his staff was dithering and not assisting Halsey to give less contradictory orders in regards this whole battle. Wonder if having had to husband small forces for so long while at Numea somehow made them risk adverse when finally given a largess to say the least of forces. Kurita making it to the beachhead may not change the way the war ends but would bet it would slow down the advance as the Navy,Army and allies would pause to reconsider Amphibious Doctrine for future landings. So maybe extend the war by a year? (Provided the A-bombs are not historically available...and maybe even then?)
Ok done for the week....I promise to write a book one day instead of trying to do it in comments to you guys😂
Oh,
I thought those were “rookie enemy pilot “ shirts
Next up? Special Attack Corps, which commenced on October 25, 1944? And/or the Leyte campaign?
Thanks
Beware of blasting someone, using a ton of hindsight, when the person being blasted is low on hindsight, low on good intelligence, and has a high level of advise from staff/advisers suggesting a course of action. But having vented my immediate thoughts , you have been putting forward a lot of good information in your series. Keep it up and thanks.
Are there still WW2 files that remain classified that may yet change narratives on Halsey's actions, or, for that matter, other actions in any theater of WW2?
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There are times that proper spelling makes a difference in the pronunciation of a name place. Cape Engaño is an excellent example.
Look at you guys rockin' the same darn shirt. BRAVO!!
Capt toti or Seth can you please post the link to the silent service coffee
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Matching shirts guys awesome love the history
Gripping account of a BOOM by BOOM engagement. Thank you.
Now to buy new eyeballs to recover from the shirts.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Stupendous...
Hello from Albania, the dentist in the middle of root canal treatment calling😂 great episode, great shirts gentlemen
...or should i say ...Combined Shirts..
The shirts look good on you guys!😃😃
The Last Stand of Hatsuzuki - epic episode in Cape Engano aftermath.
Two hours of single AA DD fight vs entire adm. DuBose force.
As one of earliest histories of Leyte by the distinguished historians H Van Woodward noted there is irony of the name of this aspect of the battle--engano means deception in Spanish.
Thank you gents. Another stellar breakdown of the events as they really happened. Not only are we in your debt, but the entire body of historians in the future owe you as well.
Good to hear Jon’s reference to HP Willmott, and excellent historian whose book on the battle is a little dense but perhaps the best single volume work, especially on the logistics.
Need the shades on for this 1😂😂
One thing I noticed in various movies with some real video, Bombers tend to attack perpendicular to the craft. If I were flying and had the strength, I would do lengthwise and aim for mid ships. If I release early or late, I hit the target. More hits maybe more AA but hard to say. I never understood the concept as if they were laying in torpedoes on the ships. This is a most interesting and informative show on these battles. Fantastic.
The shirts need to be a part of your merch!
Those shirts make me wish I was color blind!
🎉🎉WOOO HOOO Tuesdays RULE!!
Seth
Bill
Thank You guys!!
I guess my eclipse glasses won’t be a single use item!