Hey Seth, just wanted to say that I think your the best host I’ve ever seen. When Captain Bill even grunts you stop talking and give him the floor as well as all of the other guests. If they even reach for the door handle you open it for them. Great job man! You guys are great 👍
I had a foreman that was a boatswains mate on the USS California. He was a Pearl Harbor survivor and was on the USS California in this battle. He told me that in this battle they where watching the barrels of the guns lower almost to horizontal before they where given the order to fire. He told me that he thought they where never going to get the order to fire. I also had a friend that was a Marine on the West Virginia when it was sunk in Pearl. My Dad was in the Army and had a 1 brother in the Navy and another in the Coast Guard in the pacific in WW2. Also had a uncle that was a tail gunner on a B24 over Germany. These men are ultimate heroes compared to anyone from Hollywood. Not discounting the sacrifices that where made in Korea, Nam, Afghanistan and the Gulf. God Bless Them.
Absolutely a great WWII education. I plan to watch again the entire series from beginning to end. Please, please keep the entire series available for those of us to dumb to keep all in mind by just one viewing.
About 100 Dry Docks and most of the fantastic ship reviews... I'm sure nobody does interesting Naval Nerd Out on any other channel. Thank you Lord Nelson. Admiral King Kamchatka Yukakaze Ching Lee Dick Best Every episode is sprinkled with humor and irony of heros, goats, mighty ships, and brave little boats. THANKS DRACH
Thank you guys. These videos will serve to educate people interested in WW2 for the next 100 yrs. They are just too valuable, packed with credible insight from valuable perspectives.
Hi, Gentlemen. Listened to this for the 3rd time today. I am an ex USAF officer and aviation guy but my parents lived on Kwajalein while I was in college. Having spent hours exploring Kwaj, Roi, and (to a lesser degree) Majuro in my 20's, I now understand the role the Marshalls played in Nimitz' strategy for the PTO. And episodes like this are fascinating for an aviator like me who has read less than he should on naval warfare. Finally, you have developed a great rapport amongst each other that is a pleasure to listen to (and to participate in, if only vicariously). Many thanks, Jonathan Linde
Good stuff, as usual. As a precursor to this I would recommend Drachinifel's two part series on the salvage of Pearl Harbor. It is great for understanding the capabilities of the BBs salvaged from the December 7th, attack. Also there was another crossing of the T that occurred about this time. It was done by the army. I am missing the book from my library for the specific details but one of the army flying columns racing to Manila just beat a Japanese column to an intersection and kept going shooting up the Japanese column as they past in front of it. Also to Jon, there was no greater gateway model ship for a 5th grader than the 1960s Revell USS Arizona with tripod masts, bi-plane float planes, resighted secondary battery, and 5" and 3" AA guns.
Thanks you Bill, Seth & guests - for an excellent year1 As you prep for Season Four, please think about doing an episode on the lessons to be learned from the 1941-45 Pacific War. We live in perilous times and our navy, air force and marine/special forces in the Western Pacific are again in harms way.
Great video as always, it's just worth noting that the Mk 8 fire-control radar didn't have a PPI scope, it had both a A-scope and a specifically made B-scope, rectangular shaped screen that showed a 29 degrees wide area depending on the direction the director and radar are facing , which were both fixed together like most fire control radars.
I watched this episode and it is great to know that people care about history, so we dont make the same mistakes that we have made in the past. Im late to work again thanks to you guys haha. good thing im the boss, I love this
@@Ozone814 Not sure about that. Seth & Bill aren't really trying to become "youtubers" per se. Both obviously have many other interests & commitments. This appears to me a finite project; when it's done, it's done. Just my take.
The movie "The Great Race" has a line where Tony Curtis is dueling with the arch-Baddy in which the bad guy is losing and escapes by diving into the moat saying: "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day." How very appropriate.
Thank you guys.. I thought I knew everything there was to know about the Pacific war till I started watching your podcasts. You have blown my mind. I look at MacArthur in a totally different light not to mention Pelilu and the Makin Island raid.. Good grief..
I almost felt the glee that those American Sailors felt at this battle. I recall watching a Victory at Sea ( 1952) production with purported film of the night battle. Imagine the morale of those sailors. Smiles must have been the order of the day in the passageways after the battle.
Beautiful country with plenty of history within a short distance. At work I fly ATR turboprops, we would service the city of Surigao and the approach for that airfield is a straight in approach down Surigao Strait from Leyte Gulf. ATRs typically fly at 13000-18000 feet in this country so one can view the scenery below from the perspective of a dive bomber pilot. You get to pass over the northern part of the strait where Admiral Kinkaid had his Battleship and Cruiser lines then down the slot to where the southern force made their futile approach up the T. The narrowness of that passage is made known by he occasional passing merchant ships below. One can wonder how Cmdr Coward managed to fit destroyers on both sides of the passage. They would have been really hugging the coast.
Somewhat begs the question...if Oldendorf was not Coward's boss in the command structure, well, SOMEBODY was, and ostensibly DesRon 54 had some sort of assignment/role -however mundane - elsewhere "on paper". lol, did Jesse's actual boss know what he was doing? Not at all questioning what (the inappropriately-named) Coward did; obviously it was a great decision/action. I'm just curious about the "nuts and bolts" of how exactly that came to be.
@@cragnamorraThat’s a great question, my friend. It’s not like the USN in 1944 to just have a homeless destroyer squadron wandering around the Pacific, looking for work to do.
Saw "Down Periscope " again yesterday. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Anyhow, in the very beginning of the movie, William H Macy, the sub captain catches Kelsey Grammer hitting a golf shot off the deck. He says sarcastically, "What the heck, why don't we just put in and you can putt out..." It put me in mind of Captain Toti 😂
My dad, a R3C Type 3 radarman served the entire war aboard the USS Maryland; they had to use the WEE Vee's firing solutions to lock in on Yamashiro and Mogami. Surigao Strait alternate history: Replace battleships Yamashiro and Fusō, and the heavy cruiser Mogami with the battleships Yamato, Musashi and Nagato.
Although the previous episodes were a week apart, they were very good. However, combining them makes it seem like a great movie, even though there is no footage. I really like it a lot. Greetings from Texas, waiting anxiously for Season 4 to begin.
I have read Jon and Tully's "Shattered Sword" and was amazed by their research. I must read Tully's book on Surigao Strait now. Brilliant education from four fine gentlemen.
I have a challenge to Seth and Bill: learn Japanese language, read some Japanese books about PTO, and make new episodes about the same events but from Japanese perspective. ;) Seriously speaking, you are doing great job to share the knowledge about WW2 in the Pacific. Hats off!
As the IJN abandon ship was real, there remains the account of sailors who managed to reach shore. Only to be set upon by native tribesmen with "knives". My take away as the strait, entire to the action was full to peril within a group as "final service to the emperor." I am enjoying all of the posts to the content as Pacific WW2. Regards. M.
You guys get excellent guests which takes time to coordinate and do good research with cool photos and videos edited in. If you gotta have a few freebies to keep putting out good stuff do that.
Fascinating to me to hear about how successful Sho-Go-1 was in terms of influencing the US Navy to allow Kurita to actually get close to a position whence he might be able to do serious damage. The tragedy is that it was already too late...and Kurita didn't have enough force to accomplish his mission anyway. One could make the argument that Nishimura was successful in executing his part of the plan...as was Ozawa.
@ 23:36 Captain Totti refers to this as a turning movement. I am thinking more like Napoleon often did, he would tease the flanks to draw away strength from the enemies center. Than would come the main assault to break the line. Think of Austerlitz as his finest example of this strategy. Very good though for a Squid Bill....lol.
As a casual viewer but basically detailed oriented, thanks for all the details. It makes everything so real and understandable. I do have one question: The older battleships were not able to absorb many torpedo hits - could that be that they were built for surface attacks (ship to ship) since at that time, subs weren't thought to be an important weapon?
I'm curious. The USS West Virginia, which suffered dreadfully at Pearl Harbor, found itself in a "holding pattern" for repairs and Her return to combat. It was noted that when She came out of repairs with a wider beam, thus could not transit the Panama Canal.. It was stated that She would no longer pass through the Panama Canal . This infers that when she was raised and towed to a shipyard, it would have to be at a shipyard in the Pacific because She would be too "beamy" to return from an East coast shipyard through the Canal. (I cannot see this vessel 'rounding the Horn to transit to/from the Atlantic !!!) Was She repaired at Pearl Harbor? Bremerton? Somewhere else?
Thank you for this: one qustion, if I may... Might the PT boats' failures to signal be the result of self-imposed radio silence, with them being so close to the enemy and so vulnerable?
@@PalleRasmussen Oh definitely. Although between her worn out state, years of heavy damage and Britain being flat broke. She was too expensive to preserve. With Enterprise, it was less justified in my opinion.
@@ph89787 I would say no. The Grand Old Lady had served in both world wars and taken fire from the entire main battle line of the Hochseeflotte at Jutland, and survived.
True the standards will be slow, the cruisers though can still make good speed, whatever ammo they have will be better used on center Force than anything else.
The first hour mentioned that Fuso class battleships and New York class BBs were somewhat similar. They were also contemporaries. The torpedo warhead explosive power they were designed for was much less than that of the 1944 Mark 15 torpedo, and though the Fusos were upgraded in the 1930s, increase torpedo protection had to be balanced against speed reduction. So USS Melvin's torpedoes may have defeated Fuso's TDS.
I seem to recall that the big binoculars for US battleships (and cruisers) were purchased from Japan until the war, then built their own. the Japanese are really good at optics, but the US can make good enough
One thing that seems to be a constant with the Japanese is the tremendou, staggering loss of life during these battles. I forget if it was Fuso or what the ship was that lost 1600 plus with only 10 survivors. I mean I get it that they were our enemy at the time and things like this we're going to happen and had to happen for us to win this war but it doesn't decrease the tragedy of an event like that. These losses also came down to a cultural thing where it was the best thing that could happen if you were to die for your God emperor. We, the Americans place a very high premium on a person's life so all the rescues at Sea Of Sailors and Pilots is a big deal. It gave those crewman the experience of ditching at sea or abandoning ship which is something that you don't practice. So they could in turn go on to instruct other men the best way they knew how to survive these ordeals. So we would send them back to the states or some large base in the Pacific to teach. That was the memo that the Japanese never got.
Blaming Halsey for not finishing off Center force is probably wrong, he chose to finish off all the IJn carriers which were in fact the real danger. Yes he probably could have left a small carrier with destroyers and antiAC cruisers task force behind to deal with it. But the aircraft carriers actually were the longer term danger and needed to be removed because Japan was still building naval planes for them.
Assuming optimal radio messaging, assuming Oldendorf acts immediately, urgently and correctly to said messaging from Kincaid; and assuming Oldendorf leaves behind the slowest members of his 7th Fleet to beat feet to Samar - could he have even made it in time? I have always "assumed" not. No, he could not have made it in time to assist Taffy 3. I've assumed this because history has been kind to Oldendorf in its appraisal of his actions here. ?
I’m not any sort of naval expert but why didn’t the Captain of the Fuso attempt to run the front of his ship aground during the 45 minutes the bow was sinking lower in the water? You’re probably going to have to abandon ship anyway so why not give the crew a better chance of survival? And if the holes could be patched and enough water pumped out they might have even re floated her. Best guess knowing the way Japanese think is he didn’t want to survive and face the possible shame of having his ship captured by the Americans.
If you listen to Seth at the beginning of the episode, he said that they put two episodes together and rebroadcast them (a rerun) so they could prepare for the next year. Basically, they are preparing for the fourth season and taking a break.
I just wonder if any of the american prisoners could hear these naval battles going on,and thinking liberation is some to come,after waiting for 3 very long and miserable years.
Lets do the first live military history episode at the bar. Ill comment on your episodes and when i help other customers you guys talk to the cameras. Ill come up with a list of military history questions with 3/4's being out of your episodes. We do it everyday at the Tune Inn without you. Make us your stop when you come to DC. Look it up. No better bar in the city.
While I appreciate your enthusiasm, that isn’t going to happen. Unless, travel, meals, lodging, equipment transportation, setup costs and incidentals are all covered, it would never happen. Bill and I have jobs, and doing something like that would take us away from said jobs and thus, our income. Again, appreciate the enthusiasm but it will never happen.
Search radar, the last time the Japanese copied American electronic kit and the results were not superior ( and less expensive and smaller, and quicker to market and .... so on .... so on )
Hey Seth, just wanted to say that I think your the best host I’ve ever seen. When Captain Bill even grunts you stop talking and give him the floor as well as all of the other guests. If they even reach for the door handle you open it for them. Great job man! You guys are great 👍
@@jamesthompson8133 you’re*
@@rahimjoseph211 I bet YOU'RE a lot of fun at parties.
I had a foreman that was a boatswains mate on the USS California.
He was a Pearl Harbor survivor and was on the USS California in this battle.
He told me that in this battle they where watching the barrels of the guns lower almost to horizontal before they where given the order to fire.
He told me that he thought they where never going to get the order to fire.
I also had a friend that was a Marine on the West Virginia when it was sunk in Pearl.
My Dad was in the Army and had a 1 brother in the Navy and another in the Coast Guard in the pacific in WW2. Also had a uncle that was a tail gunner on a B24 over Germany.
These men are ultimate heroes compared to anyone from Hollywood.
Not discounting the sacrifices that where made in Korea, Nam, Afghanistan and the Gulf.
God Bless Them.
Absolutely a great WWII education. I plan to watch again the entire series from beginning to end. Please, please keep the entire series available for those of us to dumb to keep all in mind by just one viewing.
I agree. I have watched several episodes several times.
About 100 Dry Docks and most of the fantastic ship reviews... I'm sure nobody does interesting Naval Nerd Out on any other channel.
Thank you Lord Nelson.
Admiral King
Kamchatka
Yukakaze
Ching Lee
Dick Best
Every episode is sprinkled with humor and irony of heros, goats, mighty ships, and brave little boats.
THANKS DRACH
With such a descriptive narrative, you have brought the individual stories to life, the courage and horror and heroism. Very well done. 🇮🇪❤️
Should be eligible for an Emmy. Wonderful, deep and serious memorial for the Pacific War - Thanks , you guys are the best.
What am I going to watch when the war is over? This has been a FANTASTIC series! Thank you Seth Paradin and Capt Bill Toti!
check out TIK Historys 50 part history on the Battle of Stalingrad
Thank you guys. These videos will serve to educate people interested in WW2 for the next 100 yrs. They are just too valuable, packed with credible insight from valuable perspectives.
This is the best combination of guys to talk about history I’ve ever seen. That includes John Parshall.
Great video thanks guys.
God bless America.
Hi, Gentlemen. Listened to this for the 3rd time today. I am an ex USAF officer and aviation guy but my parents lived on Kwajalein while I was in college. Having spent hours exploring Kwaj, Roi, and (to a lesser degree) Majuro in my 20's, I now understand the role the Marshalls played in Nimitz' strategy for the PTO. And episodes like this are fascinating for an aviator like me who has read less than he should on naval warfare. Finally, you have developed a great rapport amongst each other that is a pleasure to listen to (and to participate in, if only vicariously). Many thanks, Jonathan Linde
The opening of these videos still stops me in my tracks and makes me take in the message that it conveys so well.
Outstanding!
Good stuff, as usual. As a precursor to this I would recommend Drachinifel's two part series on the salvage of Pearl Harbor. It is great for understanding the capabilities of the BBs salvaged from the December 7th, attack. Also there was another crossing of the T that occurred about this time. It was done by the army. I am missing the book from my library for the specific details but one of the army flying columns racing to Manila just beat a Japanese column to an intersection and kept going shooting up the Japanese column as they past in front of it. Also to Jon, there was no greater gateway model ship for a 5th grader than the 1960s Revell USS Arizona with tripod masts, bi-plane float planes, resighted secondary battery, and 5" and 3" AA guns.
You guys always manage to have the best guests for what you are trying to get across. I love Anthony Tulley’s book on Surigao.
@41:38 "Magnetron and not a Power Klystron?" harkens me back to Fire Control A School 🤣
Gentlemen you have the finest program on the subject. Thank you. I learn more than I thought knew with every episode. Keep up the good work!!!!!
Thank you Seth, Epic work combining 2 episodes.
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!
From the worst of the 3 Godfathers.
@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar No, Sopranos.
@@unclefart5527 "Leave the gun,...take the Cannoli."
paulie? you ain’t gonna see him around here anymore
@@unclefart5527It was from Godfather part 3.
You guys make Tuesday morning special. Any content is always appreciated.
Wow great crew of historians. Awesome show guys.
Thanks you Bill, Seth & guests - for an excellent year1 As you prep for Season Four, please think about doing an episode on the lessons to be learned from the 1941-45 Pacific War. We live in perilous times and our navy, air force and marine/special forces in the Western Pacific are again in harms way.
You guys are great, such amazing shows and the series, too...
Great video as always, it's just worth noting that the Mk 8 fire-control radar didn't have a PPI scope, it had both a A-scope and a specifically made B-scope, rectangular shaped screen that showed a 29 degrees wide area depending on the direction the director and radar are facing , which were both fixed together like most fire control radars.
This pod is why I look forward to Tuesdays.
I watched this episode and it is great to know that people care about history, so we dont make the same mistakes that we have made in the past. Im late to work again thanks to you guys haha. good thing im the boss, I love this
It's hard to believe that you guys are already up to 1945.
It's exciting, with so much to cover... But sad, because I don't want it to end.
@@Matt-416oh I’m sure there will be much much more to come in the future. This channel still has a lot of growth ahead of it
@@Ozone814 Not sure about that. Seth & Bill aren't really trying to become "youtubers" per se. Both obviously have many other interests & commitments. This appears to me a finite project; when it's done, it's done. Just my take.
The movie "The Great Race" has a line where Tony Curtis is dueling with the arch-Baddy in which the bad guy is losing and escapes by diving into the moat saying: "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day." How very appropriate.
Thanks these 2 episodes were some of your best work
After several months, I am now caught up to this video. Great story telling and history lessons all in one!
Love the details discussed. This is why you are my favorite WWII Pacific channel. Thank you.
Thank you guys.. I thought I knew everything there was to know about the Pacific war till I started watching your podcasts. You have blown my mind. I look at MacArthur in a totally different light not to mention Pelilu and the Makin Island raid.. Good grief..
Didn’t have a chance to watch this as it happened....but so glad to be watching!
Pure gold episode!!😊
I almost felt the glee that those American Sailors felt at this battle. I recall watching a Victory at Sea ( 1952) production with purported film of the night battle. Imagine the morale of those sailors. Smiles must have been the order of the day in the passageways after the battle.
Always an outstanding presentation
Beautiful country with plenty of history within a short distance. At work I fly ATR turboprops, we would service the city of Surigao and the approach for that airfield is a straight in approach down Surigao Strait from Leyte Gulf. ATRs typically fly at 13000-18000 feet in this country so one can view the scenery below from the perspective of a dive bomber pilot.
You get to pass over the northern part of the strait where Admiral Kinkaid had his Battleship and Cruiser lines then down the slot to where the southern force made their futile approach up the T.
The narrowness of that passage is made known by he occasional passing merchant ships below. One can wonder how Cmdr Coward managed to fit destroyers on both sides of the passage. They would have been really hugging the coast.
Can't thank you fellas enough for the whole series.
Imagine trying to convince civilians in Washington that you need unimaginable amounts of money in the 1930s to make this possible.
Those old battle wagons would have slugged it out with the best of them.
Especially with their new fire control radars and fire controls.
DESRON54: “Hi, Admiral! Happened to be in the neighborhood, and like to shoot things.”
Oldendorf: “Be my guest!”
Somewhat begs the question...if Oldendorf was not Coward's boss in the command structure, well, SOMEBODY was, and ostensibly DesRon 54 had some sort of assignment/role -however mundane - elsewhere "on paper". lol, did Jesse's actual boss know what he was doing? Not at all questioning what (the inappropriately-named) Coward did; obviously it was a great decision/action. I'm just curious about the "nuts and bolts" of how exactly that came to be.
@@cragnamorraThat’s a great question, my friend. It’s not like the USN in 1944 to just have a homeless destroyer squadron wandering around the Pacific, looking for work to do.
Thank you guys for doing this show.
So glad I just found this channel, love the pacific theatrre and can't wait to listen at work
Put out the fire 1st , then get the water out 2nd. Because you can't stand on the curb and wait for the local fire dept.
Err.. you ARE the local fire department...
Just had that fact drilled into my head in damage control training center Philly Pa . @markmogk4814
Saw "Down Periscope " again yesterday. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Anyhow, in the very beginning of the movie, William H Macy, the sub captain catches Kelsey Grammer hitting a golf shot off the deck. He says sarcastically, "What the heck, why don't we just put in and you can putt out..." It put me in mind of Captain Toti 😂
I rewatch plenty of your episodes -- like a Pink Floyd album, I always hear things I missed on first listen. This is no different.
I always listen at least twice for that same reason.
Love me some Floyd.
@@UnauthorizedHistoryPacificWar Loves me some UHPW. Thanks for all your hard work, really.
1:48:09 I believe that USS Phoenix wound up getting renamed ARA General Belgrano and getting sunk by HMS Conquerer in theFalkland War.
Great fun again, Thanks Guys.
Nishimura: Excuse me, do you know how to get to town?
Oldendorf: Yeah, it’s back the way you came.
Thanks guys.
Brilliant as always guys
I love it. thanks.
1:43 Bill, thank you *sooo much* for that correction! Their butchering of the word "forecastle" was killing me!
My dad, a R3C Type 3 radarman served the entire war aboard the USS Maryland; they had to use the WEE Vee's firing solutions to lock in on Yamashiro and Mogami.
Surigao Strait alternate history:
Replace battleships Yamashiro and Fusō, and the heavy cruiser Mogami with the battleships Yamato, Musashi and Nagato.
Although the previous episodes were a week apart, they were very good. However, combining them makes it seem like a great movie, even though there is no footage. I really like it a lot. Greetings from Texas, waiting anxiously for Season 4 to begin.
It's good for officers to be named Coward. It's like naming a boy Sue.
Can’t wait for Season 4!
Great show as always guys
I have read Jon and Tully's "Shattered Sword" and was amazed by their research. I must read Tully's book on Surigao Strait now. Brilliant education from four fine gentlemen.
I have a challenge to Seth and Bill: learn Japanese language, read some Japanese books about PTO, and make new episodes about the same events but from Japanese perspective. ;)
Seriously speaking, you are doing great job to share the knowledge about WW2 in the Pacific. Hats off!
Great episode as always!
As the IJN abandon ship was real, there remains the account of sailors who managed to reach shore. Only to be set upon by native tribesmen with "knives". My take away as the strait, entire to the action was full to peril within a group as "final service to the emperor." I am enjoying all of the posts to the content as Pacific WW2. Regards. M.
Good show. Not a blowhard in the bunch. John and Tony are excellent.
You guys get excellent guests which takes time to coordinate and do good research with cool photos and videos edited in. If you gotta have a few freebies to keep putting out good stuff do that.
When are you coming out with podcast merch.? There needs to be a shirt with, "Come for the history, stay for the shirts" lol.
Love it ! Great, well done! T.C.B.
Come to the famous Tune Inn in washington, DC to do a live show. Veteran owned and bartender studies military history. Its on 4th and Penn SE.
Fascinating to me to hear about how successful Sho-Go-1 was in terms of influencing the US Navy to allow Kurita to actually get close to a position whence he might be able to do serious damage. The tragedy is that it was already too late...and Kurita didn't have enough force to accomplish his mission anyway.
One could make the argument that Nishimura was successful in executing his part of the plan...as was Ozawa.
@ 23:36 Captain Totti refers to this as a turning movement. I am thinking more like Napoleon often did, he would tease the flanks to draw away strength from the enemies center. Than would come the main assault to break the line. Think of Austerlitz as his finest example of this strategy. Very good though for a Squid Bill....lol.
You guys are fantastic.
As a casual viewer but basically detailed oriented, thanks for all the details. It makes everything so real and understandable. I do have one question: The older battleships were not able to absorb many torpedo hits - could that be that they were built for surface attacks (ship to ship) since at that time, subs weren't thought to be an important weapon?
I'm curious. The USS West Virginia, which suffered dreadfully at Pearl Harbor, found itself in a "holding pattern" for repairs and Her return to combat. It was noted that when She came out of repairs with a wider beam, thus could not transit the Panama Canal.. It was stated that She would no longer pass through the Panama Canal
. This infers that when she was raised and towed to a shipyard, it would have to be at a shipyard in the Pacific because She would be too "beamy" to return from an East coast shipyard through the Canal. (I cannot see this vessel 'rounding the Horn to transit to/from the Atlantic !!!) Was She repaired at Pearl Harbor? Bremerton? Somewhere else?
Re the fuel fire after Fuso sunk, might that have been due to the supposedly more volatile unrefined oil the IJN was using as fuel?
Thank you for this: one qustion, if I may...
Might the PT boats' failures to signal be the result of self-imposed radio silence, with them being so close to the enemy and so vulnerable?
Seven seconds ago?
It's been 3 years and I'm still hoʻked.
Is there anyway you and Bill could do the battle of midway like u did here by make the 2 videos
Great watching to have morning coffee to. Seth you need a better camera.
Hey Jon! Do not slag old battleships. Those two was of an age with HMS Warspite, and she was definitely no joke.
Pity Warspite was decommissioned at the time of Leyte Gulf.
Edit: My mistake. She was blowing up the Dutch coast.
@@ph89787 it was not though. It decomissioned on 1st of February 1945. That it and The Big E was not saved for posterity is a tragedy.
@@PalleRasmussen my mistake. Although I was close with her last combat operation being just after Leyte. Being the bombardment of Walcheren Island.
@@PalleRasmussen Oh definitely. Although between her worn out state, years of heavy damage and Britain being flat broke. She was too expensive to preserve. With Enterprise, it was less justified in my opinion.
@@ph89787 I would say no. The Grand Old Lady had served in both world wars and taken fire from the entire main battle line of the Hochseeflotte at Jutland, and survived.
Double the delight!
True the standards will be slow, the cruisers though can still make good speed, whatever ammo they have will be better used on center Force than anything else.
Well played, gentlemen.
The first hour mentioned that Fuso class battleships and New York class BBs were somewhat similar. They were also contemporaries. The torpedo warhead explosive power they were designed for was much less than that of the 1944 Mark 15 torpedo, and though the Fusos were upgraded in the 1930s, increase torpedo protection had to be balanced against speed reduction. So USS Melvin's torpedoes may have defeated Fuso's TDS.
I seem to recall that the big binoculars for US battleships (and cruisers) were purchased from Japan until the war, then built their own.
the Japanese are really good at optics, but the US can make good enough
I don’t think that’s true at all.
One thing that seems to be a constant with the Japanese is the tremendou, staggering loss of life during these battles. I forget if it was Fuso or what the ship was that lost 1600 plus with only 10 survivors. I mean I get it that they were our enemy at the time and things like this we're going to happen and had to happen for us to win this war but it doesn't decrease the tragedy of an event like that. These losses also came down to a cultural thing where it was the best thing that could happen if you were to die for your God emperor. We, the Americans place a very high premium on a person's life so all the rescues at Sea Of Sailors and Pilots is a big deal. It gave those crewman the experience of ditching at sea or abandoning ship which is something that you don't practice. So they could in turn go on to instruct other men the best way they knew how to survive these ordeals. So we would send them back to the states or some large base in the Pacific to teach. That was the memo that the Japanese never got.
torpedo blisters. Please discuss in a future episode
Request: a table of ship types with the speed ranges (max, cruising) for IJN and USN. Thanks!
The Scrap iron flotilla tha was the plucky RAN.
Fabulous podcast. Get Tony a decent microphone! Bill is wonderful to listen to when he talks off the cuff but its painful lustening to him read notes.
Jon Parshall!!!!!!!!!
Blaming Halsey for not finishing off Center force is probably wrong, he chose to finish off all the IJn carriers which were in fact the real danger. Yes he probably could have left a small carrier with destroyers and antiAC cruisers task force behind to deal with it. But the aircraft carriers actually were the longer term danger and needed to be removed because Japan was still building naval planes for them.
Assuming optimal radio messaging, assuming Oldendorf acts immediately, urgently and correctly to said messaging from Kincaid; and assuming Oldendorf leaves behind the slowest members of his 7th Fleet to beat feet to Samar - could he have even made it in time? I have always "assumed" not. No, he could not have made it in time to assist Taffy 3.
I've assumed this because history has been kind to Oldendorf in its appraisal of his actions here. ?
How many destroyers did Capt Coward have in Desron 54?
My dad worked on installing Boise's fire control system.
Kinda miss out on Cape Engano, but did y'all discuss about the USN surface task group that was sent to hunt and destroy Ozawas ships?
That's in a separate video.
I’m not any sort of naval expert but why didn’t the Captain of the Fuso attempt to run the front of his ship aground during the 45 minutes the bow was sinking lower in the water? You’re probably going to have to abandon ship anyway so why not give the crew a better chance of survival? And if the holes could be patched and enough water pumped out they might have even re floated her. Best guess knowing the way Japanese think is he didn’t want to survive and face the possible shame of having his ship captured by the Americans.
They didn't head the warning of what happened to Jean Bart.
Video recorded in March, promoting an event in April and releasing the video in June.
Am I missing something here?
If you listen to Seth at the beginning of the episode, he said that they put two episodes together and rebroadcast them (a rerun) so they could prepare for the next year. Basically, they are preparing for the fourth season and taking a break.
Question is, did they pick up Japanese survivors?
The Columbia must have glowed red for days …
I just wonder if any of the american prisoners could hear these naval battles going on,and thinking liberation is some to come,after waiting for 3 very long and miserable years.
Well actually, Sir! It's pronounced Ball-Ah-Oh!
The shirt😂
Lets do the first live military history episode at the bar. Ill comment on your episodes and when i help other customers you guys talk to the cameras. Ill come up with a list of military history questions with 3/4's being out of your episodes. We do it everyday at the Tune Inn without you. Make us your stop when you come to DC. Look it up. No better bar in the city.
While I appreciate your enthusiasm, that isn’t going to happen. Unless, travel, meals, lodging, equipment transportation, setup costs and incidentals are all covered, it would never happen. Bill and I have jobs, and doing something like that would take us away from said jobs and thus, our income. Again, appreciate the enthusiasm but it will never happen.
Search radar, the last time the Japanese copied American electronic kit and the results were not superior ( and less expensive and smaller, and quicker to market and .... so on .... so on )