Great interview, with Ilia Delio PhD, one of the best IMO. "The Divine as a dynamic force in perpetual motion with the idea of “Becoming” rather than a fixed idea! By emphasizing the interplay between God and humankind, the “Divine and humanity in an entangled state” and recognizing that our collective experiences contribute to the Divine’s consciousness. It’s a dance of mutual influence-a dialogue between the finite and the infinite" (Ilia Delio PhD). I am forever grateful to this brilliant mind for sharing her valuable insights!
Best to stick with the teachings of Jesus as outlined the New Testament which center around Love, Anything else is a deviation of Truth. Blessings Brother.@@SCIENTIST-X
@@Ekam-Sat I will search in Christianity, because I'm agnostic and no one in my family knows Christianity and I'm searching for the truth , I hope I can find it 💗, thank you 💗
My brother. Just take it easy on yourself. Just by being alive you are blessing to this world so you are perfect as you are. Wishing you an easy going day and a relaxing weekend. In gratitude. Thank you too. @@SCIENTIST-X
Religion is here to stay. The need for subjective knowledge is undeniable. Religion needs to evolve consistent with the undeniable progress of science.
Excellent interview. I love the last 10 mins because it clarifies her perspective. This is pantheism not panentheism. I am a panentheist and I believe Teilhard can speak into Panentheism as much if not more than Pantheism. If God cannot be collapsed into the universe then surely that is Panentheism. The one question that was not asked is this: Is God creator of the universe or not! Very relevant I would say.
In the beginning, I said to myself "here we go. She wants to be a God. I listened further and found that she wasn't really trying to do that at all. There are some loose ends, but over all I enjoyed her views. The "we" she keep talking about I can not vouch for, however
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Robert , I just watched a old MsD's commercial with backward masking in it, it made me think, why would our brains evolve to reverse sequences after hearing them. Hunter Gatherer has no need for that and recorded audio (hearing a exact duplicate many times) is too new to have influenced Human evolution. then I thought : Unless Time does goes both ways, and somehow with the past and the future always lined up in the present. We just experience/remember one direction. Do you think that could be possible with Quantum and extra dimensions now a "thing" we can wrap our heads around kind of. I think it would have to be a X Y intersection and moving at the 45deg angle to the intersection. Interesting concept which may also clear up Dreaming and the oddness of the visuals and story line.
The brain is a fantastic pattern matching system, and pulls all sorts of tricks to filter and extract information from our sensory perceptions. One problem our sensory system has evolved to cope with is that different senses have different latencies. Seeing something happen is almost instantaneous, sounds are almost instant but can take noticeable time over longer distances, but a touch sensation from a finger can take half a second to reach the brain. The brain therefore tricks us into thinking that the sensations associated with a single event were perceived at the same time, when they were not. These mechanisms are supposed to make stimuli appear simultaneous and to make coherent sense, but the brain can get things wrong. Sometimes people report experiencing auditory illusions, such as thinking they were conscious of a phone ringing before they heard it ringing. Our brains can also 'replay' sensations back into our conscious awareness so we can try and extract more information from it, but this can lead to the feeling that a single event occurred twice. This sort of post-processing and replay can cause all sorts of illusory experiences. I highly recommend "Human time perception and its illusions" on the NLM web site. Having said all that, the evidence that people can consistently perceive information in backwards recordings, without already knowing it's there, is minimal to none. There's no real evidence subliminal messages have any significant psychological effect.
"Someday after mastering winds, waves, tides and gravity, we shall harness the energies of love, and then, for the second time in the history of the world, man will discover fire." Teilhard de Chardin
R2C gradually formed. There is contemporary science on the explanation of the development if the prefrontal cortex. Also, it develops slowly in the prefrontal cortex of the human brain, which matures gradually starting at biological age 8 and does not fully mature until the human is in the age 20 to 25 to 30.
@@Charity-vm4bt it's a fascinating topic... biological systems seem to create an advantage by either adapting from a primitive state by artificial selection or by just randomly mutating to a better version without any form of selection being involved during the process... even though the later doesn't seem very likely to me, a controlled study can certainly help in understanding the process better...
Beyond his technoutopianism, which has clearly proven false in everybody's experience with the technocracy and it's everyday dehumanizing horror, Teilhard's panentheism is needed in understanding the Christian message of God is Love.
Not only with the process theology, this concept of an evolving god also resonates with the "God in the making" of the philosopher Samuel Alexander. He also suggests the God is not real right now but is going to be an actual God in the future.
"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." - L. Ron Hubbard
Can you quote me - prove that I advocated any religion. Therefore, what warrants you in circumscribing me to religion? I never said I felt QM opposed religion - QM opposes real science. That's my position. Get it right clown.
Very exciting conversation! It might be interesting to note that one can find several common points between orthodox patristic theology, for example, and modern science.
🤔Closer to the truth 👌 love this segment in particular, resonates with me in particular, some what advocate of Tielhard , like combining theology/ science, this was closer to my pay grade 🧐 Ilia / Robert superb 👌👀
THE DAY WHEN SOMEONE REALLY UNDERSTAND GOD , ALL THE QUESTION DROPS WITH ALL ANSWERS IN PRECISE LAWS CONNECTED ,THAT'S THE MIRACLE AND EXTREME POSSIBILITY OF HUMAN MIND TO HAVE ALL ANSWERS TO ALL QUESTIONS , TO SATISFY SELF MIND TO PERFORM PEACE & LET THE VAST CONSCIOUSNESS PERFORM THE MANAGEMENT SMOOTHLY , O YAARA WHERE ARE YOUR RARE GOODYEAR
Lots of enjoyable thoughts and considerations. I love her scientific attitude. I personally would not have anything this rational to say about my understanding of "God". I have had spiritual experiences that defy description let alone explanation (Much love for Noam Chomsky). I think reasonable people can always agree that we don't know, but that is not the same as seeing where we might better adjust another's aim or perspective. It seems no matter how I poise my question a human answer tends to reinterpret the assumptions and the resulting question and answers that come from beyond the scope of human psyche unfolds like the composition of a ringing bell that can not be heard within a lifetime. This is why spiritual masteries speak of the austerities of the renunciate who is as dead to this world while living by the order of the life beyond this world. The Observer Effect has always been one of the principles involved in spiritual mastery. And just to toss a critical bone out to deff ears, I would offer the suggestion that real meditation power is sensitized to the effects of observational skills. 99.999999999999999% of practitioners have no sense of the difference that results with skillful use of the minds locality, retro causal sensitivity or retrocausal intentional presence. LOL!!! If you are wise of learning from the future, it won't happen, just like when we are wise of the past we are new in our knowledge and ability. LOL!!!
I've heard most of the arguments for atheism and in the arena of logic atheists win most but that only proves a limit to reason just as scientists are baffled by the quantum world. Religion accounts for mystery and building the social moral order.
This reminded me of the full name of the song "What Is the Light?" by The Flaming Lips: "What Is the Light? (An Untested Hypothesis Suggesting That the Chemical [In Our Brains] by Which We Are Able to Experience the Sensation of Being in Love Is the Same Chemical That Caused the "Big Bang" That Was the Birth of the Accelerating Universe)"
200 Years ago she would have been banished. But that's how human knowledge and evolution advances. It's not like you turn off one spotlight and turn on another. Both lights shine together until one fades; or moves and shines on a different area.
We want to merge the big and small, base in a whole universe, what is big in universe? Quantized is maybe the end of the small, how can we differentiate the big and small if we r a part of the small?
It has been suggested that possibly when the entire universe is done spreading all of its energy out (maximum entropy) evenly in all directions that the aggregate could become the energetic expression of a singularity. Space and time seem to disappear in the attempted exploration of the quantum realm. There might ultimately not be anywhere near the distinction between the infinitely small and the infinitely big that our intuitions would assume. Are we closer to the beginning of infinity or the end of infinity along a time dimension? Or are these ideas too small to be accurately answered? Or are these ideas too big to contain meaning? Could consciousness be the shortcut to God and the meaning the multi universe is cultivating for life?
Catholicism has a very long academic tradition, the oldest universities in Europe started as principally religious institutions. Aside from some particular unfortunate spasms, for at least a few hundred years Catholicism has learned hard lessons and taken the view that since god created nature, the study of nature must in principle be compatible with theology. After all if one is religious and believes nature is a divine creation, how can it be possible for observations in nature to contradict beliefs about god? So catholicism has been very careful to avoid objectively falsifiable religious claims, as were they to be actually falsified that would be rather embarrassing for an institution that takes rational inquiry seriously.
Энергии не существует в Природе! Это несубстанциональная выдумка людей для более-менее адекватного описания Природы. Ставить "энергию" во главу угла в мироустройстве, это проявлять вопиющую неграмотность, незнания истории развития науки. Кроме того, этот "доктор наук" не знает имён последователей Тейяра де Шардена в России, она допускает непростительные ошибки. Великий Тейяр де Шарден перевернулся в гробу от возмущения спекуляциями на своём имени!
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The problem of theology is not that it needs to catch up with current science. OK, they will catch up to current science, but once again lag behind unless keeping up with science is also practiced. The issue is with the basis of theological thought which is faith based belief. And if that is changed and aligned with evidence based to-the-bet-of-our-knowledge approach of science with open to change based on contrary evidence attitude, then why call it theology? Have they thought about that? Of course, theologians or for that matter anyone should not accept what ever science says, in fact science insists on it. That is what the scientific method is about and peer review and independent verifiability. And science is not being done, the fruits of it i.e. technology basically essential to our modern societies. So be grateful.
Whoever is responsible for our existence should be brought to justice Those theologists should stop using science discoveries in their favour. Go back to Adam and Eve and their 🍎
You can’t possibly be a scientist without knowing ancient history. The historical record shows that everyone spread out from Mesopotamia. Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially the sixteen original civilizations. 1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K) 2. Thracians (L) 3. Siberians (N) 4. East Assists (O) 5. Medes (PQ) 6.. Western Europeans (R) 7. Mediterranean Greek sea people (T) 8. Hebrews and Arabic (IJ) 9. Elamites (H) 10. Assyrians (G) 11. Arameans (F1) 12. Lydians (F2) 13. Cushites (AB, C & D) 14. Egyptians (E3) 15. Canaanites (E2) 16. Original North African Phoenicians (E1) The D haplogroup of Canaan migrated east through Tibet all the way to Japan. The C haplogroup of Nimrod migrated to South Asia, the Pacific, Mongolia and all the way to the Americas along with Q haplogroup descendants of Madai ancestor of the Medes. The A maternal mtDNA haplogroup belonging to the N lineage accompanied the Q paternal haplogroup. The C&D maternal haplogroups belong to the M lineage. The B maternal haplogroup seems to have crossed the Pacific Ocean. The Mediterranean paternal R1b and the maternal X2a also found in Galilee represent an Atlantic crossing of the Phoenicians in the days of King Solomon considering also the Mediterranean paternal haplogroups of T, G, I1, I2, J1, J2, E and B in addition to the R1b in Native American Populations.
Oh look at all of this nonsense you just directly pulled from your bum. You should spend some time learning some actual history instead of making things up.
And what about the prehistoric people of the civilizations that were more technologically advanced before the end of the last ice age than the civilizations that proceeded after the last ice age?
@@JungleJargon Why do you keep telling these lies? Those are not the original civilizations at all. Those are just things that you have made up to try to prop up your proven false narrative.
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The biggest thing to happen in three centuries (since Newton) is quantum physics proving the observable universe is "not locally real". Since Newton we've considered the observable universe to be "locally real". Both Newton and Einstein's calculus and geometry require the observable universe to be "locally real" and it just isn't. Leibniz, the guy we didn’t choose three centuries ago, based his calculus and geometry off the observable universe being "not locally real". TL;DR: we only have all the contradictions, false dichotomies, paradoxes and literally "life's biggest questions" due to us all being taught logic, calculus and geometry that is contradictory at the most fundamental level. Leibniz or Newton: Quantum mechanics is more compatible with Leibniz's relational view of the universe than Newton's absolute view of the universe. In Newton's absolute view, space and time are absolute and independent entities that exist on their own, independent of the objects and events that take place within them. This view implies that there is a privileged observer who can observe the universe from a neutral and objective perspective. On the other hand, Leibniz's relational view holds that space and time are not absolute, but are instead relational concepts that are defined by the relationships between objects and events in the universe. This view implies that there is no privileged observer and that observations are always made from a particular point of view. Quantum mechanics is more compatible with the relational view because it emphasizes the role of observers and the context of measurement in determining the properties of particles. In quantum mechanics, the properties of particles are not absolute, but are instead defined by their relationships with other particles and the measuring apparatus. This means that observations are always made from a particular point of view and that there is no neutral and objective perspective. Overall, quantum mechanics suggests that the universe is fundamentally relational rather than absolute, and is therefore more compatible with Leibniz's relational view than Newton's absolute view. What are the two kinds of truth according to Leibniz? There are two kinds of truths, those of reasoning and those of fact. Truths of fact are contingent and their opposite is possible. Truths of reasoning are necessary and their opposite is impossible. What is the difference between Newton and Leibniz calculus? Newton's calculus is about functions. Leibniz's calculus is about relations defined by constraints. In Newton's calculus, there is (what would now be called) a limit built into every operation. In Leibniz's calculus, the limit is a separate operation. What are the arguments against Leibniz? Critics of Leibniz argue that the world contains an amount of suffering too great to permit belief in philosophical optimism. The claim that we live in the best of all possible worlds drew scorn most notably from Voltaire, who lampooned it in his comic novella Candide.
Contradictory: *impossible to be true.* Non-contradictory: *possible to be true.* ❌️Contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics (knowing good; functions; limit built into every operation)❌️: 1. The Gen 1 character and the Gen 2 character are the exact same character (knowing good). 2. Zero is not fundamental and nonzero numbers are fundamental (Newton/Einstein calculus). 3. 0D is not locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are locally real (Newton/Einstein physics). ⬆️ this is what we're all taught. Materialist/Empiricist version of reality.⬆️ ✅️Non-contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics (knowing good from evil; relations defined by constraints; limit is a separate operation)✅️: 1. The Gen 1 character and the Gen 2 character are polar opposite characters (knowing good from evil). 2. Zero is fundamental and nonzero numbers are not fundamental (Leibniz calculus). 3. 0D is locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are not locally real (Leibniz physics). ⬆️ this is what quantum physics proved a year ago and if Theology doesn't match Math and Physics then you're doing it wrong. Realist version of reality.⬆️ [🦄Materialism/Empiricism💩 version of Religion]: Interpreting the Bible with the Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character as the exact same character generates near 70,000 contradictions (see reason project) and requires heavy apologetics. A Bible interpretation which includes near 70,000 contradictions (impossible to be true) is what a snake-oil salesman would sell you. 🐍 [🦤Materialism/Empiricism💩 version of Science]: The standard model of physics is Einstein's 3+1 space-time, which are considered locally real, where 0 is considered not locally real...been that way since Newton for zero vs nonzero numbers. Problem is...quantum physics proved the observable universe (1D, 2D, 3D and 4D) is actually not locally real...and that was over a year ago. (Yes, Leibniz was correct after all.) 🦧 [Layman's terminology of locally real vs not locally real]: locally real = more real (Leibniz said "necessary") not locally real = less real (Leibniz said "contingent") [Closing arguments]: The Materialism/Empiricism package contains within itself all the contradictions, false dichotomies, paradoxes and literally "life's biggest questions". It's been a year why is everyone still using Logic, Calculus and Geometry that is contradictory at the most fundamental level? Legitimate question 🙋. If both Religion and Science removed their "Materialist/Empiricist-perspective shades 👓" (contradictory for a year) and put on their "Realist-perspective shades 👓" (non-contradictory for a year) they would not only cease to argue...they'd agree with each other (world first 🪙).
[Infinity and zero, theology, soul]: in·fin·i·ty MATHEMATICS a number greater than any assignable quantity or countable number (symbol ∞). (In counting numbers 0 is the subject where positive integers "1, 2, 3 and 4 etc" are the objects). What is the meaning of zero in Webster's dictionary? a. : the arithmetical symbol 0 or 0̸ denoting the absence of all magnitude or quantity. b. : additive identity. specifically : the number between the set of all negative numbers and the set of all positive numbers. Zero is the most important number in mathematics and is both a real and an imaginary number with a horizon through it. Zero-dimensional space is the greatest dimension in physics and is both a real and an imaginary dimension with an event horizon through it. Isn't⚡God⚡supposed to be outside of space (1D, 2D, 3D) and time (4D)? Well, 0D is outside of space and time: 0D (not-natural) = dimensionless and timeless 1D, 2D, 3D (natural) = spatial dimensions 4D (natural) = temporal dimension Read Leibniz's Monadology 📖 and consider that the Monad is the zero-dimensional space binding our quarks together with the strong force (it is). The other side of the Monad is Monos (Alone) and this side is Monas (Singularity) and there's an event horizon between them. So El/Elohim or Theos/Logos etc pick your language. Quarks are dimensionless (no size) and timeless (not-natural). The two main quark spin configs two-down, one-up (subatomic to neutron) and two-up, one-down (subatomic to proton) could easily be construed as the male (upward facing trinity) and female (downward facing trinity) image that Elohim made us in during Genesis 1. Quarks (no spatial extension) experience all 3 fundamental forces plus have a fractional electric charge⚡and that's why protons and neutrons (spatial extension) have electrons orbiting around them. In Geometry any new dimension has to contain within it all previous dimensions. This holds true with it being impossible for atomic protons and neutrons (spatial extension) to exist without subatomically containing within themselves quarks (no spatial extension). "Something (spatial extension) from Nothing (no spatial extension)". A) The postulated soul, 👻, has 1. no spatial extension 2. zero size 3. exact location only B) Quarks are mass with no size measured in Megaelectron Volts. Mass with no size is a unique equation in that it has no spatial extension. Conclusion: A and B are the same thing.
[Important point 👉 (dont forget)]: 0D (zero) is different from 1D-10D (nonzero) because 0D is a not-natural dimension whereas 1D-10D are natural dimensions. 0D monad (Creator event horizon) 1D, 2D, 3D are spatial (space) dimensions 1D line 2D width 3D height 4D, 5D, 6D are temporal (time) dimensions 4D length 5D breadth 6D depth 7D, 8D, 9D are spectral (energy) dimensions 7D continuous 8D emission 9D absorption 10D black hole (Destroyer event horizon) It is impossible for anything 1D-9D to approach 0D or 10D due to their event horizons. 10D contains a placeholder 0 (not locally real) for its event horizon. Only 0D is locally real on this side. The other side of the event horizon at the zero-of yourself (near horizon) is God. The other side of the event horizon of a black hole (far horizon) is not God. Anything we know about black holes (Destroyer) we know the opposite of that is true for monads (Creator), and we know some crazy sci-fi stuff about black holes. It's a mirror universe with 0D at the center. This side (Elohim; Singularity) is contingent and less real (the natural dimensions anyway) and the other side (El; Alone) is necessary and more real (pretty sure the entirety of the other side remains locally real). The zero-of ourselves (more real 👻) was made by the Holy Trinity (Deity; possessive; God's) in Genesis 1 which should not be confused with the Unholy Trinity (Deity; plural; gods) in Genesis 2-3 who messes with the 1D, 2D, 3D parts of us (less real 🤷♂️). Elohim was "syncretized" to just mean El during the Babylonian captivity. To avoid this simply use the Latin, "unsyncretized", counterpart Deity for possessive (God's) and plural (gods) context. (Septuagint and Vulgate use Post-Babylonian captivity "syncretized" meaning of Elohim so mistranslate as Theos and Deus, respectively). Gen 2-3 introduces the placeholder Elohim (not locally real) and their blind, foolish chief running amok. Plurality of bad guy that 'are' each other and 'are not' God. Nephilim are sons of the false Elohim associated with Yahweh (the BAAL, or LORD, of the gods).
[Monad in philosophy/cosmogony]: Monad (from Greek μονάς monas, "singularity" in turn from μόνος monos, "alone") refers, in cosmogony, to the Supreme Being, divinity or the sum "I am" of all things. The concept was reportedly conceived by the Pythagoreans and may refer variously to a single source acting alone, or to an indivisible origin, or to both. The concept was later adopted by other philosophers, such as Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, who referred to the Monad as an *elementary particle.* It had a *geometric counterpart,* which was debated and discussed contemporaneously by the same groups of people. [In this speculative scenario, let's consider Leibniz's *Monad,* from the philosophical work "The Monadology", as an abstract representation of *the zero-dimensional space that binds quarks together* using the strong nuclear force]: 1) Indivisibility and Unity: Monads, as indivisible entities, mirror the nature of quarks, which are deemed elementary and indivisible particles in our theoretical context. Just as monads possess unity and indivisibility, quarks are unified in their interactions through the strong force. 2) Interconnectedness: Leibniz's monads are interconnected, each reflecting the entire universe from its own perspective. In a parallel manner, the interconnectedness of quarks through the strong force could be metaphorically represented by the interplay of monads, forming a web that holds particles together. 3) Inherent Properties: Just as monads possess inherent perceptions and appetitions, quarks could be thought of as having intrinsic properties like color charge, reflecting the inherent qualities of monads and influencing their interactions. 4) Harmony: The concept of monads contributing to universal harmony resonates with the idea that the strong nuclear force maintains harmony within atomic nuclei by counteracting the electromagnetic repulsion between protons, allowing for the stability of matter. 5) Pre-established Harmony: Monads' pre-established harmony aligns with the idea that the strong force was pre-designed to ensure stable interactions among quarks, orchestrating their behavior in a way that parallels the harmony envisaged by Leibniz. 6) Non-Mechanical Interaction: Monads interact non-mechanically, mirroring the non-mechanical interactions of quarks through gluon exchange. This connection might be seen as a metaphorical reflection of the intricacies of quark-gluon dynamics. 7) Holism: The holistic perspective of monads could symbolize how quarks, like the monads' interconnections, contribute holistically to the structure and behavior of particles through the strong force interactions. [Monad in mathematics, science and technology]: Monad (biology), a historical term for a simple unicellular organism Monad (category theory), a construction in category theory Monad (functional programming), functional programming constructs that capture various notions of computation Monad (homological algebra), a 3-term complex Monad (nonstandard analysis), the set of points infinitesimally close to a given point
"Some first follow the true Savior but then turn away to worship a dead man." - the revelation of Peter THE WORLD RULER TRIES TO KILL ME And then a voice of the world ruler came to the angels: “I am god and there is no other god but me.” But I laughed joyfully when I examined his conceit. But he went on to say, “Who is the human?” And the entire host of his angels who had seen Adam and his dwelling were laughing at his smallness. And thus did their thought come to be removed outside the majesty of the heavens, away from the human of truth, whose name they saw, since he is in a small dwelling place. They are foolish and senseless in their empty thought, namely, their laughter, and it was contagion for them. The whole greatness of the fatherhood of the spirit was at rest in its places. And I was with him, since I have a thought of a single emanation from the eternal ones and the unknowable ones, undefiled and immeasurable. I placed the small thought in the world, having disturbed them and frightened the whole multitude of the angels and their ruler. And I was visiting them all with fire and flame because of my thought. And everything pertaining to them was brought about because of me. And there came about a disturbance and a fight around the seraphim and cherubim, since their glory will fade, and there was confusion around Adonaios on both sides and around their dwelling, up to the world ruler and the one who said, “Let us seize him.” Others again said, “The plan will certainly not materialize.” For Adonaios knows me because of hope. And I was in the mouths of lions. And as for the plan that they devised about me to release their error and their senselessness, I did not succumb to them as they had planned. And I was not afflicted at all. Those who were there punished me, yet I did not die in reality but in appearance, in order that I not be put to shame by them because these are my kinsfolk. I removed the shame from me, and I did not become fainthearted in the face of what happened to me at their hands. I was about to succumb to fear, and I suffered merely according to their sight and thought so that no word might ever be found to speak about them. For my death, which they think happened, happened to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death. Their thoughts did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me. It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the rulers and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.
Very engaging thoughts here.. From the interest of religiously inclined folks looking to salvage beliefs in God, Illia is correct.. Traditional religions will continue to fade away in the light of science, UNLESS it is possible to dramatically change their current IRRATIONAL view of history and reality in general..Still I think that will only slow the gradual rejection of such things as God's, souls, and living forever..One opinion..
@wagfinpis I certainly mean you no personal disrespect friend, but the QUESTION you ask me is murky and extremely broad in scope.. Perhaps you can ask me a clearly defined question, which I will be happy to respond to..
@@wagfinpis Is it on the decline of Theism? The historical claims of ancient holy books? The philosophical issues with classical dualism? OR something else? Peace..
@@Bill..N I was interested in the comment about "gradual rejection of soul and living forever". Is this an inevitable summary and if so will this summary persist as long as our species continue to inherent greater knowledge and understanding? I assume you were not indicating that you have knowledge of an agenda to convert public perception irregardless of truth and reality; it sounded more like you were indicating that you know that eventually people will learn the reality as it is in truth, that reality being that there is no such thing as something like a "soul" or a form of psyche that experiences a "life after death" type of scenario. If I understood that accurately I was asking for your enlightenment as to what you know that would cause this inevitable summary for our species. Science has not produced life yet it is all over this planet.
@wagfinpis I enjoy debating, but I offer opinions, not claims of truth.. Upfront they are from the view of naturalism. And offered in broad generalities. . The universe appears to be PHYSICAL in every respect.. Simple logic says nothing immaterial can "exist," which is self-evidently sensible..Therefore, souls would necessarily be composed of particles or their associated fields to be part of our universe... Such particle fields would be detectable.. Eternal life? I hardly know where to start with that.. Even if it WERE possible for an AFTERlife where one was literally composed of nothing, it would no longer be you, and your memories and thoughts would be gone.. Why? Because memories and thoughts are completely physical events inside your physical brain.. Counterpoints?
Matter is energy and energy can’t make or direct itself. This means the universe isn’t able to account for its own existence. The universe is also running down and running out and it can’t wind itself back up again. We have no other alternative than to appeal to infinite power and ability for our existence and our only hope is that infinite power and ability. It’s really not complicated when we actually consider the evidence.
@@tomjackson7755 Do you understand that matter is ordered energy. That is the making of matter. It’s reason you can be ordered to be a human instead of a squirrel.
@@JungleJargon Do you understand that you have no idea what you are talking about? Do you understand that matter and energy are different forms of the same thing? Do you understand that neither can be made?
We don't know by her presentation, but you might understand based on how your own inquiry or experience can correlate with her accounting narrative. It's more like a fun game for now. I think we'll all get it more clearly afterwards.
I hope those pesky scientists never find the rational solution. This gives us hope that there is a bit of magic remaining. So we can cheerfully cling to our fantasies.
… I think that there are enough grey areas at the fringes of scientific knowledge and the subjective areas of the human experience where you can enjoy the mysterious and intangible.
❤Thanks a lot for your talking. BTS pp says: "Best theology the version-I is tritanian, suggesting a growing God, the Father, a mathematician (Deuteronomy 6 KJV 4 4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One (The Infinite, Isaiah 41:4,44:6; Rev 1:8,21:6,22:13), who begets a twin, Lucifer the prince & Son The Christ, a physicist (John 8 KJV 12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life); the version-II calvinism predestination the determinism which generates quantum mechanics. Now the third version attempts to reconcile Word of God and contemporary sciences in the basis of the provious versions." Dr ilio Delio Franciscan sister and a theologian from the Catholic tradition specializing in science and religion as we're hearing how Evolution Quantuam Physics and Neuroscience impacts theology she holds the Josephine Colony Cornnelly endowed chair in theology at Villanova University she earned two PhDs neuropharmacology and historical theology, she is the author of 20 books several winning major awards so Ilia let me read some of the nice quotes that I have found in your works echoing what you started to say ❤👉theology has fallen so far behind that it will take a revolution to get theology on the same train with science and technology and what we call theology is now just history to really engage in a vital theology something that's relevant today everything including God must be revisited in light of evolution and quantum physics. ID: that's it. 20:26 Next is Neuroscience. ID: well Neuroscience has really been an explosive field ... I think we learned today especially uh first of all the great complexities of the brain bu also the level of consciousness and the way in a sense we can begin to see that what we call the soul in the past may indeed a level or a center of integrated consciousness you know in the human person so we can account for maybe a lot more things like the soul that's a symbol and I think what we're saying from neuroscience we have a better understanding now of the complexities of the human brain and human consciousness that can account for this symbolic notion of the soul or the heart so neuroscience is an incredible explosion of you know hw we become aware and honestly we're still mapping the brain so I think that field is just still to be exploded and expanded as the brain is the most incredibly fine-tuned instrument one can possibly perceive and once you begin to study the circuits of the brain. 21:58 then you begin to realize just how incredibly fine-tuned this life is it's just beyond amazement and truly as good as we are with artificail intelligence there's something about the fine-tuning of a single neuro that will always elude I think our grasp to fully control life 22:24 some Christian philosophers now going with the physicalism that neuroscience has brought have opted for a philosophy called non-reductive physicalism where the human is purely physical but there's some top- down causation some non- reductive aspect to it so there's no immortal soul but there is in the Christian world a hope of a future resurrection by God through this non reductive physicalism how does that articulate? 22:58
The word 'god' should be replaced by the word 'godliness'. The is no god above us sitting in some heaven or hell monitoring us 24×7. To better understand godliness...we are like a fish which never knows it is surrounded by water. So now let's develop new theology..😅
'Objective negation leads to subjective synthesis' - theoria apophasis The boys who claim quantum, if they were to properly do whatever it is they're doing, the science of theology would arise. To them, there's no God but there are particles; there's no cause but only effects. Studying relations and effects is good, acknowledging this participation and what's passive that participates, and that which is participated but does not participate is important, and the contrary, this would be narrow minded. Is why not a single modern scientist has a logical model ‐ limited to effects and relations. How does one think any such method will ever get to Truth; of which, some today, believe Truth to be a product of the brain. If you posit no God, no Divine, no Soul, no intelligible, no Truth, no Justice, no Wisdom,.... then such a person renders their life obsolete. No man is to be afforded praise for any such thing, science or quantum, as be extolled above the one and the gods above truth and justice. You cant make Wisdom or truth or justice or life or being or essence under a microscope in a lab. This is 2024. Any such persons are to be discarded.
I really don't understand why you think quantum mechanics is in any way opposed to religion, or why the people who formulated QM were against religions. It's just not true. Many of the founders of quantum mechanics were devoutly religious, and believed that quantum mechanics was not only compatible with their beliefs, but affirmed them. Werner Heisenberg, John Von Neumann, Wolfgang Pauli and Max Planck were all religions, and some of them were very poetic about how to them quantum mechanics and spirituality seemed closely related. Obviously I'm an atheist, but I have long maintained that there is nothing in science that can ever disprove the existence of a creator god. It's simply not a scientific question. The only conflicts between science and religion occur when religious people make falsifiable claims about observable phenomena in the physical world that we observe to be false. That's not an issue all that often really, and none of that is going to falsify religion in general. People are free to interpret their personal experiences as they choose, and in most cases science really doesn't have much to say about that. My atheism isn't a result of any observation in science, it's a purely philosophical position.
@@simonhibbs887 stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man. Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; in reality, indirectly warranting your notion just - which isn't just at all. You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You have been void, there are superior men to the likes of you, simon. You state information is fundamental without any dialectic, Reason, system or Cause of unities and unicals, progenitors and progeny; what is information, it's essence, participation, passivity, relation... go on, explain. And then there's quantum.... which you displace the Divine with, which is rejected as a pseudo intellect term that doesn't exist, nor do you know its orgin, usage, and what it's based on; deprived of the integrity to explicate the belief system of the circles that apply such a term, you do not. You admonish me, as if you're a worthy teacher or authority, to not take your word for it but do some Google searches and take their word for it instead. Here you are trying to circumscribe me to religion [as if you're the authority - although, when have i ever advocated any religion?] - and therefore, you indirectly take the place of science, is that right, quantum fraud? You don't know anything. You never even praise the gods of field theory: Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity. You're an absolute clown, simon.
@@simonhibbs887stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man. Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; in reality, indirectly warranting your notion just - which isn't just at all. You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You have been void, there are superior men to the likes of you, simon. You state information is fundamental without any dialectic, Reason, system or Cause of unities and unicals, progenitors and progeny; what is information, it's essence, participation, passivity, relation... go on, explain. And then there's quantum.... which you displace the Divine with, which is rejected as a pseudo intellect term that doesn't exist, nor do you know its orgin, usage, and what it's based on; deprived of the integrity to explicate the belief system of the circles that apply such a term, you do not. You admonish me, as if you're a worthy teacher or authority, to not take your word for it but do some Google searches and take their word for it instead. Here you are trying to circumscribe me to religion [as if you're the authority - although, when have i ever advocated any religion?] - and therefore, you indirectly take the place of science, is that right, quantum fraud? You don't know anything. You never even praise the gods of field theory: Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity. You're an absolute clown, simon.
@@simonhibbs887 stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man. Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; in reality, indirectly warranting your notion just - which isn't just at all. You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You have been void, there are superior men to the likes of you, simon. You state information is fundamental without any dialectic, Reason, system or Cause of unities and unicals, progenitors and progeny; what is information, it's essence, participation, passivity, relation... go on, explain. And then there's quantum.... which you displace the Divine with, which is rejected as a pseudo intellect term that doesn't exist, nor do you know its orgin, usage, and what it's based on; deprived of the integrity to explicate the belief system of the circles that apply such a term, you do not. You admonish me, as if you're a worthy teacher or authority, to not take your word for it but do some Google searches and take their word for it instead. Here you are trying to circumscribe me to religion [as if you're the authority - although, when have i ever advocated any religion?] - and therefore, you indirectly take the place of science, is that right, quantum fraud? You don't know anything. You never even praise the gods of field theory: Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity.
@@simonhibbs887 stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man. Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; changing dialect or lexicon, in truth doesn't modify the subject, rendering it theology or science; it's the exact same thing. Science is a tool and only a tool. Claiming " science" is like a carpenter claiming he does "hammer" - they do real hammer. You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You designate elements, qualities, contingents, essence, to this "quantum" bullshit. There are superior men than you and your ilk. You never mention Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity, and quantum. You bullshit and lie when I state these men never used the term quantum. You make stuff up, putting words in their mouth they never said.
Likes everyone else she was expressing her ideas. Nothing else. The truths are God words or revelations: ¹one is expressed in spoken words or human language mode - The Authentic God Scriptures and ²second one is expressed in His seen and unseen creative modes or nature/cosmos.
No thanks. Please don't suggest that science should take queues from religion. The use of word mystery of QM is not really a scientific concept, and does not mean the same thing it means in religious contexts. Sure scientists use that word i.e. mystery, when talking about QM to lay people. In science it simply means not-fully-understood, yet. And science has its own methodology, to go after the unknown.
@S3RAVA3LM I would rather know what future science knows if I could. The old did not have the advantage of modern technology that allows science to verify its theories. Thanks. They did not know about germ theory. They thought things were made of 5 elements. Sorry, it just does not make any sense to me.
@@S3RAVA3LM I would rather know what future science knows if I could. The ancients did not have the advantage of modern technology e.g. microscopes and telescopes to verify their theories. And modern science takes full advantage of that to verify it's theories and is also open enough to discard or change or enhance its theories if a contrary or different evidence is found. Some of the ancient did not know germ theory, some of them thought lightning is caused by gods, some thought everything is made of five elements, earth, water, air, fire and aether etc. Sorry, I would rather go by modern and future science. Thanks for sharing your opinion though. Every opinion is important.
Once Science shows you the way you will become fully responsible for the light and destiny of your soul. Science is the slow boat to reality, enjoy the bliss of ignorance, the safety of tyranny, and the security of the war. LOL!!!
She shows how her Universe is about evolution are true absolutetly. But she is wrong absolutetly. Unpredictable conscieusness show phich reality are NOT predict. There arent perfect phich reality when unpredictable conscieusness figure out imperfect reality. In this sense she speaks about evolution reality NOT means nothing.
She is such an amazing woman! Her name deserves more recognition
Great interview, with Ilia Delio PhD, one of the best IMO. "The Divine as a dynamic force in perpetual motion with the idea of “Becoming” rather than a fixed idea! By emphasizing the interplay between God and humankind, the “Divine and humanity in an entangled state” and recognizing that our collective experiences contribute to the Divine’s consciousness. It’s a dance of mutual influence-a dialogue between the finite and the infinite" (Ilia Delio PhD). I am forever grateful to this brilliant mind for sharing her valuable insights!
"Love is the deepest reality of our existence, and it is love that holds us together as a unified whole." ~ Ilia Delio
What kind of love?
Unconditional love that has no conditions placed upon it that have to be met .
Best to stick with the teachings of Jesus as outlined the New Testament which center around Love, Anything else is a deviation of Truth. Blessings Brother.@@SCIENTIST-X
@@Ekam-Sat I will search in Christianity, because I'm agnostic and no one in my family knows Christianity and I'm searching for the truth , I hope I can find it 💗, thank you 💗
My brother. Just take it easy on yourself. Just by being alive you are blessing to this world so you are perfect as you are. Wishing you an easy going day and a relaxing weekend. In gratitude. Thank you too. @@SCIENTIST-X
I just love you...I drink in your words.
I fell in love with science
years ago, and through you I am following my dream of learning.
Very uplifting. Anyone and everyone should benefit by watching this 💞💕. Also, 'Pantheism' is the precise term I was looking for.
Thank you RLK for creating and sharing these discussions.
Thank you.
Religion is here to stay. The need for subjective knowledge is undeniable. Religion needs to evolve consistent with the undeniable progress of science.
Excellent interview. I love the last 10 mins because it clarifies her perspective. This is pantheism not panentheism. I am a panentheist and I believe Teilhard can speak into Panentheism as much if not more than Pantheism. If God cannot be collapsed into the universe then surely that is Panentheism. The one question that was not asked is this: Is God creator of the universe or not! Very relevant I would say.
The universe is instantaneous all at once
Please can you expand on this!?
LOL!
In the beginning, I said to myself "here we go. She wants to be a God.
I listened further and found that she wasn't really trying to do that at all.
There are some loose ends, but over all I enjoyed her views. The "we" she keep talking about I can not vouch for, however
This is brilliant 😊
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Great interview - awesome interviewer
YES YOU ARE RIGHT SCIENCE AND RELIGION SHOULD BE SYNC , GOD IS THE PUREST TRUTH & LOVE WHICH BINDS ALL REALITY TOGETHER TO SURVIVE WITH PROPER DISTANCE SEPARATION NOT TO COLLAPSE , WHICH WAS THERE & WILL BE FOREVER IN EXISTENCE TO MAINTAINS BALANCE & EVOLUTION WITH EXPLORATION FROM MEMORY RAM , O RA RA RA RA YAARA MERA PYAARA
Robert , I just watched a old MsD's commercial with backward masking in it, it made me think, why would our brains evolve to reverse sequences after hearing them. Hunter Gatherer has no need for that and recorded audio (hearing a exact duplicate many times) is too new to have influenced Human evolution.
then I thought : Unless Time does goes both ways, and somehow with the past and the future always lined up in the present. We just experience/remember one direction. Do you think that could be possible with Quantum and extra dimensions now a "thing" we can wrap our heads around kind of. I think it would have to be a X Y intersection and moving at the 45deg angle to the intersection.
Interesting concept which may also clear up Dreaming and the oddness of the visuals and story line.
The brain is a fantastic pattern matching system, and pulls all sorts of tricks to filter and extract information from our sensory perceptions.
One problem our sensory system has evolved to cope with is that different senses have different latencies. Seeing something happen is almost instantaneous, sounds are almost instant but can take noticeable time over longer distances, but a touch sensation from a finger can take half a second to reach the brain. The brain therefore tricks us into thinking that the sensations associated with a single event were perceived at the same time, when they were not. These mechanisms are supposed to make stimuli appear simultaneous and to make coherent sense, but the brain can get things wrong.
Sometimes people report experiencing auditory illusions, such as thinking they were conscious of a phone ringing before they heard it ringing. Our brains can also 'replay' sensations back into our conscious awareness so we can try and extract more information from it, but this can lead to the feeling that a single event occurred twice. This sort of post-processing and replay can cause all sorts of illusory experiences. I highly recommend "Human time perception and its illusions" on the NLM web site.
Having said all that, the evidence that people can consistently perceive information in backwards recordings, without already knowing it's there, is minimal to none. There's no real evidence subliminal messages have any significant psychological effect.
wow ..
In a word: Nope.
To elaborate some: Hahahahahahahahahaha
@@simonhibbs887 The problem with reality, is reality. 🙃
"Someday after mastering winds, waves, tides and gravity, we shall harness the energies of love, and then, for the second time in the history of the world, man will discover fire."
Teilhard de Chardin
what is the role of consciousness in the universe... has it always been or was it gradually formed 🤔
R2C gradually formed. There is contemporary science on the explanation of the development if the prefrontal cortex. Also, it develops slowly in the prefrontal cortex of the human brain, which matures gradually starting at biological age 8 and does not fully mature until the human is in the age 20 to 25 to 30.
@@Charity-vm4bt it's a fascinating topic... biological systems seem to create an advantage by either adapting from a primitive state by artificial selection or by just randomly mutating to a better version without any form of selection being involved during the process... even though the later doesn't seem very likely to me, a controlled study can certainly help in understanding the process better...
Beyond his technoutopianism, which has clearly proven false in everybody's experience with the technocracy and it's everyday dehumanizing horror, Teilhard's panentheism is needed in understanding the Christian message of God is Love.
Not only with the process theology, this concept of an evolving god also resonates with the "God in the making" of the philosopher Samuel Alexander. He also suggests the God is not real right now but is going to be an actual God in the future.
Is your name related to the Greek myth of the Iliad?
"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." - L. Ron Hubbard
Can you quote me - prove that I advocated any religion. Therefore, what warrants you in circumscribing me to religion? I never said I felt QM opposed religion - QM opposes real science. That's my position. Get it right clown.
Have a great day both of you
Very exciting conversation! It might be interesting to note that one can find several common points between orthodox patristic theology, for example, and modern science.
🤔Closer to the truth 👌 love this segment in particular, resonates with me in particular, some what advocate of Tielhard , like combining theology/ science, this was closer to my pay grade 🧐 Ilia / Robert superb 👌👀
Faith and prayer can collapse the wave function in a favorable way.
I have thought this for years.
Vast implications.
I wish this is true.
@@irfanmehmud63 You dont know it not to be. Consider it.
THE DAY WHEN SOMEONE REALLY UNDERSTAND GOD , ALL THE QUESTION DROPS WITH ALL ANSWERS IN PRECISE LAWS CONNECTED ,THAT'S THE MIRACLE AND EXTREME POSSIBILITY OF HUMAN MIND TO HAVE ALL ANSWERS TO ALL QUESTIONS , TO SATISFY SELF MIND TO PERFORM PEACE & LET THE VAST CONSCIOUSNESS PERFORM THE MANAGEMENT SMOOTHLY , O YAARA WHERE ARE YOUR RARE GOODYEAR
Lots of enjoyable thoughts and considerations. I love her scientific attitude.
I personally would not have anything this rational to say about my understanding of "God". I have had spiritual experiences that defy description let alone explanation (Much love for Noam Chomsky).
I think reasonable people can always agree that we don't know, but that is not the same as seeing where we might better adjust another's aim or perspective.
It seems no matter how I poise my question a human answer tends to reinterpret the assumptions and the resulting question and answers that come from beyond the scope of human psyche unfolds like the composition of a ringing bell that can not be heard within a lifetime. This is why spiritual masteries speak of the austerities of the renunciate who is as dead to this world while living by the order of the life beyond this world. The Observer Effect has always been one of the principles involved in spiritual mastery.
And just to toss a critical bone out to deff ears, I would offer the suggestion that real meditation power is sensitized to the effects of observational skills. 99.999999999999999% of practitioners have no sense of the difference that results with skillful use of the minds locality, retro causal sensitivity or retrocausal intentional presence. LOL!!! If you are wise of learning from the future, it won't happen, just like when we are wise of the past we are new in our knowledge and ability. LOL!!!
The interesting parts here can be discussed with reference obly to the universe without dusty old concepts like god
Ilia
I find any word speaking on🎉 eter😅nity 47:05 the concept of eternal life is terrifying.
I've heard most of the arguments for atheism and in the arena of logic atheists win most but that only proves a limit to reason just as scientists are baffled by the quantum world. Religion accounts for mystery and building the social moral order.
Those glasses are great.. he looks like a benelvolent scientist character :)
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This reminded me of the full name of the song "What Is the Light?" by The Flaming Lips:
"What Is the Light? (An Untested Hypothesis Suggesting That the Chemical [In Our Brains] by Which We Are Able to Experience the Sensation of Being in Love Is the Same Chemical That Caused the "Big Bang" That Was the Birth of the Accelerating Universe)"
36:36 I'm sorry, Doc; I thought you had said that your guest is a Catholic Sister...
200 Years ago she would have been banished. But that's how human knowledge and evolution advances. It's not like you turn off one spotlight and turn on another. Both lights shine together until one fades; or moves and shines on a different area.
We want to merge the big and small, base in a whole universe, what is big in universe? Quantized is maybe the end of the small, how can we differentiate the big and small if we r a part of the small?
It has been suggested that possibly when the entire universe is done spreading all of its energy out (maximum entropy) evenly in all directions that the aggregate could become the energetic expression of a singularity.
Space and time seem to disappear in the attempted exploration of the quantum realm.
There might ultimately not be anywhere near the distinction between the infinitely small and the infinitely big that our intuitions would assume.
Are we closer to the beginning of infinity or the end of infinity along a time dimension? Or are these ideas too small to be accurately answered? Or are these ideas too big to contain meaning? Could consciousness be the shortcut to God and the meaning the multi universe is cultivating for life?
The Soul is consciousness.
energy is ....
@@ash9x9 energy is the vibrations of atoms.
so is Consciouness@@gene4094
Light has a kind of consciousness, or better yet, intellect.
@@S3RAVA3LM more apt, wave length or frequency.
I prefer to pronounce it "noose sphere".
Have I just seen a postmodernist Catholic? 🤯
What does poling suggest about how postmodernist-catholics vote, in which centuries?
Catholicism has a very long academic tradition, the oldest universities in Europe started as principally religious institutions. Aside from some particular unfortunate spasms, for at least a few hundred years Catholicism has learned hard lessons and taken the view that since god created nature, the study of nature must in principle be compatible with theology. After all if one is religious and believes nature is a divine creation, how can it be possible for observations in nature to contradict beliefs about god? So catholicism has been very careful to avoid objectively falsifiable religious claims, as were they to be actually falsified that would be rather embarrassing for an institution that takes rational inquiry seriously.
Энергии не существует в Природе! Это несубстанциональная выдумка людей для более-менее адекватного описания Природы. Ставить "энергию" во главу угла в мироустройстве, это проявлять вопиющую неграмотность, незнания истории развития науки. Кроме того, этот "доктор наук" не знает имён последователей Тейяра де Шардена в России, она допускает непростительные ошибки. Великий Тейяр де Шарден перевернулся в гробу от возмущения спекуляциями на своём имени!
That's happening in usa only the world is praying stop with your cosmos pnl
Yeah 👍
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God is created in our minds. How many wars to this date over different gods?
The problem of theology is not that it needs to catch up with current science. OK, they will catch up to current science, but once again lag behind unless keeping up with science is also practiced. The issue is with the basis of theological thought which is faith based belief. And if that is changed and aligned with evidence based to-the-bet-of-our-knowledge approach of science with open to change based on contrary evidence attitude, then why call it theology? Have they thought about that? Of course, theologians or for that matter anyone should not accept what ever science says, in fact science insists on it. That is what the scientific method is about and peer review and independent verifiability. And science is not being done, the fruits of it i.e. technology basically essential to our modern societies. So be grateful.
NEVER follow the Copenhagen ibterpretation!!!
Whoever is responsible for our existence should be brought to justice
Those theologists should stop using science discoveries in their favour.
Go back to Adam and Eve and their 🍎
Trying to put old wine in new bottle?
The new lables make tasting more fun, but the real drinking is usually done one bottle at a time anyway.
You can’t possibly be a scientist without knowing ancient history. The historical record shows that everyone spread out from Mesopotamia. Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially the sixteen original civilizations.
1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K)
2. Thracians (L)
3. Siberians (N)
4. East Assists (O)
5. Medes (PQ)
6.. Western Europeans (R)
7. Mediterranean Greek sea people (T)
8. Hebrews and Arabic (IJ)
9. Elamites (H)
10. Assyrians (G)
11. Arameans (F1)
12. Lydians (F2)
13. Cushites (AB, C & D)
14. Egyptians (E3)
15. Canaanites (E2)
16. Original North African Phoenicians (E1)
The D haplogroup of Canaan migrated east through Tibet all the way to Japan. The C haplogroup of Nimrod migrated to South Asia, the Pacific, Mongolia and all the way to the Americas along with Q haplogroup descendants of Madai ancestor of the Medes.
The A maternal mtDNA haplogroup belonging to the N lineage accompanied the Q paternal haplogroup. The C&D maternal haplogroups belong to the M lineage. The B maternal haplogroup seems to have crossed the Pacific Ocean.
The Mediterranean paternal R1b and the maternal X2a also found in Galilee represent an Atlantic crossing of the Phoenicians in the days of King Solomon considering also the Mediterranean paternal haplogroups of T, G, I1, I2, J1, J2, E and B in addition to the R1b in Native American Populations.
Oh look at all of this nonsense you just directly pulled from your bum. You should spend some time learning some actual history instead of making things up.
And what about the prehistoric people of the civilizations that were more technologically advanced before the end of the last ice age than the civilizations that proceeded after the last ice age?
@@wagfinpis Everyone is accounted for as being from the sixteen original ancient civilizations that are from the sixteen grandsons of Noah.
@@JungleJargon Why do you keep telling these lies? Those are not the original civilizations at all. Those are just things that you have made up to try to prop up your proven false narrative.
@@JungleJargon Do you have any proof of any of these claims or is this just another of your fantasies?
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The biggest thing to happen in three centuries (since Newton) is quantum physics proving the observable universe is "not locally real".
Since Newton we've considered the observable universe to be "locally real".
Both Newton and Einstein's calculus and geometry require the observable universe to be "locally real" and it just isn't.
Leibniz, the guy we didn’t choose three centuries ago, based his calculus and geometry off the observable universe being "not locally real".
TL;DR: we only have all the contradictions, false dichotomies, paradoxes and literally "life's biggest questions" due to us all being taught logic, calculus and geometry that is contradictory at the most fundamental level.
Leibniz or Newton:
Quantum mechanics is more compatible with Leibniz's relational view of the universe than Newton's absolute view of the universe.
In Newton's absolute view, space and time are absolute and independent entities that exist on their own, independent of the objects and events that take place within them. This view implies that there is a privileged observer who can observe the universe from a neutral and objective perspective.
On the other hand, Leibniz's relational view holds that space and time are not absolute, but are instead relational concepts that are defined by the relationships between objects and events in the universe. This view implies that there is no privileged observer and that observations are always made from a particular point of view.
Quantum mechanics is more compatible with the relational view because it emphasizes the role of observers and the context of measurement in determining the properties of particles. In quantum mechanics, the properties of particles are not absolute, but are instead defined by their relationships with other particles and the measuring apparatus. This means that observations are always made from a particular point of view and that there is no neutral and objective perspective.
Overall, quantum mechanics suggests that the universe is fundamentally relational rather than absolute, and is therefore more compatible with Leibniz's relational view than Newton's absolute view.
What are the two kinds of truth according to Leibniz?
There are two kinds of truths, those of reasoning and those of fact. Truths of fact are contingent and their opposite is possible. Truths of reasoning are necessary and their opposite is impossible.
What is the difference between Newton and Leibniz calculus?
Newton's calculus is about functions.
Leibniz's calculus is about relations defined by constraints.
In Newton's calculus, there is (what would now be called) a limit built into every operation.
In Leibniz's calculus, the limit is a separate operation.
What are the arguments against Leibniz?
Critics of Leibniz argue that the world contains an amount of suffering too great to permit belief in philosophical optimism. The claim that we live in the best of all possible worlds drew scorn most notably from Voltaire, who lampooned it in his comic novella Candide.
Contradictory: *impossible to be true.*
Non-contradictory: *possible to be true.*
❌️Contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics (knowing good; functions; limit built into every operation)❌️:
1. The Gen 1 character and the Gen 2 character are the exact same character (knowing good).
2. Zero is not fundamental and nonzero numbers are fundamental (Newton/Einstein calculus).
3. 0D is not locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are locally real (Newton/Einstein physics).
⬆️ this is what we're all taught. Materialist/Empiricist version of reality.⬆️
✅️Non-contradictory Theology, Mathematics and Physics (knowing good from evil; relations defined by constraints; limit is a separate operation)✅️:
1. The Gen 1 character and the Gen 2 character are polar opposite characters (knowing good from evil).
2. Zero is fundamental and nonzero numbers are not fundamental (Leibniz calculus).
3. 0D is locally real and 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D are not locally real (Leibniz physics).
⬆️ this is what quantum physics proved a year ago and if Theology doesn't match Math and Physics then you're doing it wrong. Realist version of reality.⬆️
[🦄Materialism/Empiricism💩 version of Religion]:
Interpreting the Bible with the Genesis 1 character and the Genesis 2 character as the exact same character generates near 70,000 contradictions (see reason project) and requires heavy apologetics. A Bible interpretation which includes near 70,000 contradictions (impossible to be true) is what a snake-oil salesman would sell you. 🐍
[🦤Materialism/Empiricism💩 version of Science]:
The standard model of physics is Einstein's 3+1 space-time, which are considered locally real, where 0 is considered not locally real...been that way since Newton for zero vs nonzero numbers.
Problem is...quantum physics proved the observable universe (1D, 2D, 3D and 4D) is actually not locally real...and that was over a year ago.
(Yes, Leibniz was correct after all.) 🦧
[Layman's terminology of locally real vs not locally real]:
locally real = more real (Leibniz said "necessary")
not locally real = less real (Leibniz said "contingent")
[Closing arguments]:
The Materialism/Empiricism package contains within itself all the contradictions, false dichotomies, paradoxes and literally "life's biggest questions". It's been a year why is everyone still using Logic, Calculus and Geometry that is contradictory at the most fundamental level? Legitimate question 🙋.
If both Religion and Science removed their "Materialist/Empiricist-perspective shades 👓" (contradictory for a year) and put on their "Realist-perspective shades 👓" (non-contradictory for a year) they would not only cease to argue...they'd agree with each other (world first 🪙).
[Infinity and zero, theology, soul]:
in·fin·i·ty
MATHEMATICS
a number greater than any assignable quantity or countable number (symbol ∞).
(In counting numbers 0 is the subject where positive integers "1, 2, 3 and 4 etc" are the objects).
What is the meaning of zero in Webster's dictionary?
a. : the arithmetical symbol 0 or 0̸ denoting the absence of all magnitude or quantity.
b. : additive identity. specifically : the number between the set of all negative numbers and the set of all positive numbers.
Zero is the most important number in mathematics and is both a real and an imaginary number with a horizon through it.
Zero-dimensional space is the greatest dimension in physics and is both a real and an imaginary dimension with an event horizon through it.
Isn't⚡God⚡supposed to be outside of space (1D, 2D, 3D) and time (4D)?
Well, 0D is outside of space and time:
0D (not-natural) = dimensionless and timeless
1D, 2D, 3D (natural) = spatial dimensions
4D (natural) = temporal dimension
Read Leibniz's Monadology 📖 and consider that the Monad is the zero-dimensional space binding our quarks together with the strong force (it is). The other side of the Monad is Monos (Alone) and this side is Monas (Singularity) and there's an event horizon between them. So El/Elohim or Theos/Logos etc pick your language.
Quarks are dimensionless (no size) and timeless (not-natural). The two main quark spin configs two-down, one-up (subatomic to neutron) and two-up, one-down (subatomic to proton) could easily be construed as the male (upward facing trinity) and female (downward facing trinity) image that Elohim made us in during Genesis 1.
Quarks (no spatial extension) experience all 3 fundamental forces plus have a fractional electric charge⚡and that's why protons and neutrons (spatial extension) have electrons orbiting around them.
In Geometry any new dimension has to contain within it all previous dimensions. This holds true with it being impossible for atomic protons and neutrons (spatial extension) to exist without subatomically containing within themselves quarks (no spatial extension).
"Something (spatial extension) from Nothing (no spatial extension)".
A) The postulated soul, 👻, has
1. no spatial extension
2. zero size
3. exact location only
B) Quarks are mass with no size measured in Megaelectron Volts. Mass with no size is a unique equation in that it has no spatial extension.
Conclusion: A and B are the same thing.
[Important point 👉 (dont forget)]:
0D (zero) is different from 1D-10D (nonzero) because 0D is a not-natural dimension whereas 1D-10D are natural dimensions.
0D monad (Creator event horizon)
1D, 2D, 3D are spatial (space) dimensions
1D line
2D width
3D height
4D, 5D, 6D are temporal (time) dimensions
4D length
5D breadth
6D depth
7D, 8D, 9D are spectral (energy) dimensions
7D continuous
8D emission
9D absorption
10D black hole (Destroyer event horizon)
It is impossible for anything 1D-9D to approach 0D or 10D due to their event horizons. 10D contains a placeholder 0 (not locally real) for its event horizon. Only 0D is locally real on this side.
The other side of the event horizon at the zero-of yourself (near horizon) is God.
The other side of the event horizon of a black hole (far horizon) is not God.
Anything we know about black holes (Destroyer) we know the opposite of that is true for monads (Creator), and we know some crazy sci-fi stuff about black holes.
It's a mirror universe with 0D at the center. This side (Elohim; Singularity) is contingent and less real (the natural dimensions anyway) and the other side (El; Alone) is necessary and more real (pretty sure the entirety of the other side remains locally real).
The zero-of ourselves (more real 👻) was made by the Holy Trinity (Deity; possessive; God's) in Genesis 1 which should not be confused with the Unholy Trinity (Deity; plural; gods) in Genesis 2-3 who messes with the 1D, 2D, 3D parts of us (less real 🤷♂️).
Elohim was "syncretized" to just mean El during the Babylonian captivity. To avoid this simply use the Latin, "unsyncretized", counterpart Deity for possessive (God's) and plural (gods) context. (Septuagint and Vulgate use Post-Babylonian captivity "syncretized" meaning of Elohim so mistranslate as Theos and Deus, respectively).
Gen 2-3 introduces the placeholder Elohim (not locally real) and their blind, foolish chief running amok. Plurality of bad guy that 'are' each other and 'are not' God.
Nephilim are sons of the false Elohim associated with Yahweh (the BAAL, or LORD, of the gods).
[Monad in philosophy/cosmogony]:
Monad (from Greek μονάς monas, "singularity" in turn from μόνος monos, "alone") refers, in cosmogony, to the Supreme Being, divinity or the sum "I am" of all things.
The concept was reportedly conceived by the Pythagoreans and may refer variously to a single source acting alone, or to an indivisible origin, or to both.
The concept was later adopted by other philosophers, such as Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, who referred to the Monad as an *elementary particle.*
It had a *geometric counterpart,* which was debated and discussed contemporaneously by the same groups of people.
[In this speculative scenario, let's consider Leibniz's *Monad,* from the philosophical work "The Monadology", as an abstract representation of *the zero-dimensional space that binds quarks together* using the strong nuclear force]:
1) Indivisibility and Unity: Monads, as indivisible entities, mirror the nature of quarks, which are deemed elementary and indivisible particles in our theoretical context. Just as monads possess unity and indivisibility, quarks are unified in their interactions through the strong force.
2) Interconnectedness: Leibniz's monads are interconnected, each reflecting the entire universe from its own perspective. In a parallel manner, the interconnectedness of quarks through the strong force could be metaphorically represented by the interplay of monads, forming a web that holds particles together.
3) Inherent Properties: Just as monads possess inherent perceptions and appetitions, quarks could be thought of as having intrinsic properties like color charge, reflecting the inherent qualities of monads and influencing their interactions.
4) Harmony: The concept of monads contributing to universal harmony resonates with the idea that the strong nuclear force maintains harmony within atomic nuclei by counteracting the electromagnetic repulsion between protons, allowing for the stability of matter.
5) Pre-established Harmony: Monads' pre-established harmony aligns with the idea that the strong force was pre-designed to ensure stable interactions among quarks, orchestrating their behavior in a way that parallels the harmony envisaged by Leibniz.
6) Non-Mechanical Interaction: Monads interact non-mechanically, mirroring the non-mechanical interactions of quarks through gluon exchange. This connection might be seen as a metaphorical reflection of the intricacies of quark-gluon dynamics.
7) Holism: The holistic perspective of monads could symbolize how quarks, like the monads' interconnections, contribute holistically to the structure and behavior of particles through the strong force interactions.
[Monad in mathematics, science and technology]:
Monad (biology), a historical term for a simple unicellular organism
Monad (category theory), a construction in category theory
Monad (functional programming), functional programming constructs that capture various notions of computation
Monad (homological algebra), a 3-term complex
Monad (nonstandard analysis), the set of points infinitesimally close to a given point
"Some first follow the true Savior but then turn away to worship a dead man." - the revelation of Peter
THE WORLD RULER TRIES TO KILL ME
And then a voice of the world ruler came to the angels: “I am god and there is no other god but me.” But I laughed joyfully when I examined his conceit. But he went on to say, “Who is the human?”
And the entire host of his angels who had seen Adam and his dwelling were laughing at his smallness. And thus did their thought come to be removed outside the majesty of the heavens, away from the human of truth, whose name they saw, since he is in a small dwelling place. They are foolish and senseless in their empty thought, namely, their laughter, and it was contagion for them.
The whole greatness of the fatherhood of the spirit was at rest in its places. And I was with him, since I have a thought of a single emanation from the eternal ones and the unknowable ones, undefiled and immeasurable. I placed the small thought in the world, having disturbed them and frightened the whole multitude of the angels and their ruler. And I was visiting them all with fire and flame because of my thought.
And everything pertaining to them was brought about because of me. And there came about a disturbance and a fight around the seraphim and cherubim, since their glory will fade, and there was confusion around Adonaios on both sides and around their dwelling, up to the world ruler and the one who said, “Let us seize him.” Others again said, “The plan will certainly not materialize.” For Adonaios knows me because of hope. And I was in the mouths of lions. And as for the plan that they devised about me to release their error and their senselessness, I did not succumb to them as they had planned. And I was not afflicted at all.
Those who were there punished me, yet I did not die in reality but in appearance, in order that I not be put to shame by them because these are my kinsfolk. I removed the shame from me, and I did not become fainthearted in the face of what happened to me at their hands. I was about to succumb to fear, and I suffered merely according to their sight and thought so that no word might ever be found to speak about them.
For my death, which they think happened, happened to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death. Their thoughts did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me.
It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the rulers and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.
Very engaging thoughts here.. From the interest of religiously inclined folks looking to salvage beliefs in God, Illia is correct.. Traditional religions will continue to fade away in the light of science, UNLESS it is possible to dramatically change their current IRRATIONAL view of history and reality in general..Still I think that will only slow the gradual rejection of such things as God's, souls, and living forever..One opinion..
Why not cut to the chase and share your enlightenment?
@wagfinpis I certainly mean you no personal disrespect friend, but the QUESTION you ask me is murky and extremely broad in scope.. Perhaps you can ask me a clearly defined question, which I will be happy to respond to..
@@wagfinpis Is it on the decline of Theism? The historical claims of ancient holy books? The philosophical issues with classical dualism? OR something else? Peace..
@@Bill..N I was interested in the comment about "gradual rejection of soul and living forever". Is this an inevitable summary and if so will this summary persist as long as our species continue to inherent greater knowledge and understanding?
I assume you were not indicating that you have knowledge of an agenda to convert public perception irregardless of truth and reality; it sounded more like you were indicating that you know that eventually people will learn the reality as it is in truth, that reality being that there is no such thing as something like a "soul" or a form of psyche that experiences a "life after death" type of scenario.
If I understood that accurately I was asking for your enlightenment as to what you know that would cause this inevitable summary for our species.
Science has not produced life yet it is all over this planet.
@wagfinpis I enjoy debating, but I offer opinions, not claims of truth.. Upfront they are from the view of naturalism. And offered in broad generalities. . The universe appears to be PHYSICAL in every respect.. Simple logic says nothing immaterial can "exist," which is self-evidently sensible..Therefore, souls would necessarily be composed of particles or their associated fields to be part of our universe... Such particle fields would be detectable.. Eternal life? I hardly know where to start with that.. Even if it WERE possible for an AFTERlife where one was literally composed of nothing, it would no longer be you, and your memories and thoughts would be gone.. Why? Because memories and thoughts are completely physical events inside your physical brain.. Counterpoints?
Matter is energy and energy can’t make or direct itself. This means the universe isn’t able to account for its own existence. The universe is also running down and running out and it can’t wind itself back up again. We have no other alternative than to appeal to infinite power and ability for our existence and our only hope is that infinite power and ability. It’s really not complicated when we actually consider the evidence.
Matter/energy cannot be made at all. This means that your god story is wrong. It’s really not complicated when we actually consider the evidence.
@@tomjackson7755 Matter was made so you can exist.
@@JungleJargon Matter cannot be made and I exist just fine. It’s really not complicated when we actually consider the evidence.
@@tomjackson7755 Do you understand that matter is ordered energy. That is the making of matter. It’s reason you can be ordered to be a human instead of a squirrel.
@@JungleJargon Do you understand that you have no idea what you are talking about? Do you understand that matter and energy are different forms of the same thing? Do you understand that neither can be made?
She's making zillions of assertions about 'God'. How do we know when she's right or wrong?
We don't know by her presentation, but you might understand based on how your own inquiry or experience can correlate with her accounting narrative. It's more like a fun game for now. I think we'll all get it more clearly afterwards.
Total bollocks
Took the words right out 😂
I hope those pesky scientists never find the rational solution.
This gives us hope that there is a bit of magic remaining.
So we can cheerfully cling to our fantasies.
That does not sound like enlightenment at all…
… I think that there are enough grey areas at the fringes of scientific knowledge and the subjective areas of the human experience where you can enjoy the mysterious and intangible.
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And as long as we don't know everything, there is still room for God.
❤Thanks a lot for your talking. BTS pp says: "Best theology the version-I is tritanian, suggesting a growing God, the Father, a mathematician (Deuteronomy 6 KJV 4 4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is One (The Infinite, Isaiah 41:4,44:6; Rev 1:8,21:6,22:13), who begets a twin, Lucifer the prince & Son The Christ, a physicist (John 8 KJV 12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life); the version-II calvinism predestination the determinism which generates quantum mechanics. Now the third version attempts to reconcile Word of God and contemporary sciences in the basis of the provious versions."
Dr ilio Delio Franciscan sister and a theologian from the Catholic tradition specializing in science and religion as we're hearing how Evolution Quantuam Physics and Neuroscience impacts theology she holds the Josephine Colony Cornnelly endowed chair in theology at Villanova University she earned two PhDs neuropharmacology and historical theology, she is the author of 20 books several winning major awards so Ilia let me read some of the nice quotes that I have found in your works echoing what you started to say ❤👉theology has fallen so far behind that it will take a revolution to get theology on the same train with science and technology and what we call theology is now just history to really engage in a vital theology something that's relevant today everything including God must be revisited in light of evolution and quantum physics. ID: that's it. 20:26 Next is Neuroscience. ID: well Neuroscience has really been an explosive field ... I think we learned today especially uh first of all the great complexities of the brain bu also the level of consciousness and the way in a sense we can begin to see that what we call the soul in the past may indeed a level or a center of integrated consciousness you know in the human person so we can account for maybe a lot more things like the soul that's a symbol and I think what we're saying from neuroscience we have a better understanding now of the complexities of the human brain and human consciousness that can account for this symbolic notion of the soul or the heart so neuroscience is an incredible explosion of you know hw we become aware and honestly we're still mapping the brain so I think that field is just still to be exploded and expanded as the brain is the most incredibly fine-tuned instrument one can possibly perceive and once you begin to study the circuits of the brain. 21:58 then you begin to realize just how incredibly fine-tuned this life is it's just beyond amazement and truly as good as we are with artificail intelligence there's something about the fine-tuning of a single neuro that will always elude I think our grasp to fully control life 22:24 some Christian philosophers now going with the physicalism that neuroscience has brought have opted for a philosophy called non-reductive physicalism where the human is purely physical but there's some top- down causation some non- reductive aspect to it so there's no immortal soul but there is in the Christian world a hope of a future resurrection by God through this non reductive physicalism how does that articulate? 22:58
The word 'god' should be replaced by the word 'godliness'. The is no god above us sitting in some heaven or hell monitoring us 24×7. To better understand godliness...we are like a fish which never knows it is surrounded by water. So now let's develop new theology..😅
God; if you don't want me to eat this donut, send me a sign.
'Objective negation leads to subjective synthesis'
- theoria apophasis
The boys who claim quantum, if they were to properly do whatever it is they're doing, the science of theology would arise.
To them, there's no God but there are particles; there's no cause but only effects.
Studying relations and effects is good, acknowledging this participation and what's passive that participates, and that which is participated but does not participate is important, and the contrary, this would be narrow minded. Is why not a single modern scientist has a logical model ‐ limited to effects and relations. How does one think any such method will ever get to Truth; of which, some today, believe Truth to be a product of the brain.
If you posit no God, no Divine, no Soul, no intelligible, no Truth, no Justice, no Wisdom,.... then such a person renders their life obsolete. No man is to be afforded praise for any such thing, science or quantum, as be extolled above the one and the gods above truth and justice. You cant make Wisdom or truth or justice or life or being or essence under a microscope in a lab.
This is 2024. Any such persons are to be discarded.
I really don't understand why you think quantum mechanics is in any way opposed to religion, or why the people who formulated QM were against religions. It's just not true. Many of the founders of quantum mechanics were devoutly religious, and believed that quantum mechanics was not only compatible with their beliefs, but affirmed them. Werner Heisenberg, John Von Neumann, Wolfgang Pauli and Max Planck were all religions, and some of them were very poetic about how to them quantum mechanics and spirituality seemed closely related.
Obviously I'm an atheist, but I have long maintained that there is nothing in science that can ever disprove the existence of a creator god. It's simply not a scientific question. The only conflicts between science and religion occur when religious people make falsifiable claims about observable phenomena in the physical world that we observe to be false. That's not an issue all that often really, and none of that is going to falsify religion in general. People are free to interpret their personal experiences as they choose, and in most cases science really doesn't have much to say about that. My atheism isn't a result of any observation in science, it's a purely philosophical position.
@@simonhibbs887 stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man.
Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; in reality, indirectly warranting your notion just - which isn't just at all. You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You have been void, there are superior men to the likes of you, simon.
You state information is fundamental without any dialectic, Reason, system or Cause of unities and unicals, progenitors and progeny; what is information, it's essence, participation, passivity, relation... go on, explain.
And then there's quantum.... which you displace the Divine with, which is rejected as a pseudo intellect term that doesn't exist, nor do you know its orgin, usage, and what it's based on; deprived of the integrity to explicate the belief system of the circles that apply such a term, you do not. You admonish me, as if you're a worthy teacher or authority, to not take your word for it but do some Google searches and take their word for it instead.
Here you are trying to circumscribe me to religion [as if you're the authority - although, when have i ever advocated any religion?] - and therefore, you indirectly take the place of science, is that right, quantum fraud?
You don't know anything. You never even praise the gods of field theory: Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity.
You're an absolute clown, simon.
@@simonhibbs887stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man.
Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; in reality, indirectly warranting your notion just - which isn't just at all. You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You have been void, there are superior men to the likes of you, simon.
You state information is fundamental without any dialectic, Reason, system or Cause of unities and unicals, progenitors and progeny; what is information, it's essence, participation, passivity, relation... go on, explain.
And then there's quantum.... which you displace the Divine with, which is rejected as a pseudo intellect term that doesn't exist, nor do you know its orgin, usage, and what it's based on; deprived of the integrity to explicate the belief system of the circles that apply such a term, you do not. You admonish me, as if you're a worthy teacher or authority, to not take your word for it but do some Google searches and take their word for it instead.
Here you are trying to circumscribe me to religion [as if you're the authority - although, when have i ever advocated any religion?] - and therefore, you indirectly take the place of science, is that right, quantum fraud?
You don't know anything. You never even praise the gods of field theory: Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity.
You're an absolute clown, simon.
@@simonhibbs887 stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man.
Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; in reality, indirectly warranting your notion just - which isn't just at all. You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You have been void, there are superior men to the likes of you, simon.
You state information is fundamental without any dialectic, Reason, system or Cause of unities and unicals, progenitors and progeny; what is information, it's essence, participation, passivity, relation... go on, explain.
And then there's quantum.... which you displace the Divine with, which is rejected as a pseudo intellect term that doesn't exist, nor do you know its orgin, usage, and what it's based on; deprived of the integrity to explicate the belief system of the circles that apply such a term, you do not. You admonish me, as if you're a worthy teacher or authority, to not take your word for it but do some Google searches and take their word for it instead.
Here you are trying to circumscribe me to religion [as if you're the authority - although, when have i ever advocated any religion?] - and therefore, you indirectly take the place of science, is that right, quantum fraud?
You don't know anything. You never even praise the gods of field theory: Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity.
@@simonhibbs887 stating God and the Divine, principles and virtues, Truth and justice, has nothing to do with religion. Man made religion. Such causes and principles, universals and theophanies, Wisdom and Truth were before mere man.
Occluding such realization and precluding such dialect and Reason, as above mentioned, doesn't make it science; changing dialect or lexicon, in truth doesn't modify the subject, rendering it theology or science; it's the exact same thing. Science is a tool and only a tool. Claiming " science" is like a carpenter claiming he does "hammer" - they do real hammer.
You have no model, no system, no logic, no Truth. You designate elements, qualities, contingents, essence, to this "quantum" bullshit.
There are superior men than you and your ilk.
You never mention Maxwell, Steinmetz, Poincare, Tesla, Heaviside, but you praise Einstein and relativity, and quantum. You bullshit and lie when I state these men never used the term quantum. You make stuff up, putting words in their mouth they never said.
Evolution lacks verification.
yeah, try explaining the missing link?
@@ash9x9 It’s entire missing chains everywhere.
can you elaborate please!?@@JungleJargon
@@ash9x9 Evolution is all gap.
'Mind the gap'@@JungleJargon
Likes everyone else she was expressing her ideas. Nothing else.
The truths are God words or revelations:
¹one is expressed in spoken words or human language mode - The Authentic God Scriptures and
²second one is expressed in His seen and unseen creative modes or nature/cosmos.
She, like so many, wants to take ownership of the wisdom of the scripture, but denies the authority of it.
What do you mean?
If you take the entire scope of what the scripture is telling us, it has nothing to do with the extrapolations she has made.@@S3RAVA3LM
Well scripture forgot to mention that it got all its ideas from other people.
No thanks. Please don't suggest that science should take queues from religion. The use of word mystery of QM is not really a scientific concept, and does not mean the same thing it means in religious contexts. Sure scientists use that word i.e. mystery, when talking about QM to lay people. In science it simply means not-fully-understood, yet. And science has its own methodology, to go after the unknown.
She is offering a form of resolution in sciences' massive blind spots. It's all no man's land.
@S3RAVA3LM I would rather know what future science knows if I could. The old did not have the advantage of modern technology that allows science to verify its theories. Thanks.
They did not know about germ theory. They thought things were made of 5 elements. Sorry, it just does not make any sense to me.
@@S3RAVA3LM I would rather know what future science knows if I could. The ancients did not have the advantage of modern technology e.g. microscopes and telescopes to verify their theories. And modern science takes full advantage of that to verify it's theories and is also open enough to discard or change or enhance its theories if a contrary or different evidence is found. Some of the ancient did not know germ theory, some of them thought lightning is caused by gods, some thought everything is made of five elements, earth, water, air, fire and aether etc. Sorry, I would rather go by modern and future science. Thanks for sharing your opinion though. Every opinion is important.
Once Science shows you the way you will become fully responsible for the light and destiny of your soul. Science is the slow boat to reality, enjoy the bliss of ignorance, the safety of tyranny, and the security of the war. LOL!!!
She shows how her Universe is about evolution are true absolutetly. But she is wrong absolutetly. Unpredictable conscieusness show phich reality are NOT predict. There arent perfect phich reality when unpredictable conscieusness figure out imperfect reality. In this sense she speaks about evolution reality NOT means nothing.