SALICE Progressa Drawer Slides - CRUSHING the Competition
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- In this episode, Jeff gives a close look at Blum vs Salice Drawer slides. In my opinion, it’s pretty easy to tell which slides I’ll use on my next project. Let us know what you think.
I would love to see a more in depth video on the installation of these slides. They look incredible.
Keep your eyes peeled! 👀
Agreed. Seeing the details of how and why a pro shop makes, is 'must see' content.
Looks like a very nice slide & yes I would like to see an indepth installation video!
Coming soon!
I switched from Hettich because they quit making the model I used to use. I like these so far. I see you have the Hafele adjustable cabinet feet. The genius of those are the breakoff nipple that maintains the set height until install, then it breaks off when you level the cabinet at final install. I like these, especially with the snap clips for toe kick. I think those are brilliant. You might want to do a video on those.
Yes! That little nub is absolutely genius!
Would love to see an in-depth video of installing these; thanks!
We’ll make it happen!
I’ve installed a few sets of these and they are well made. The in and out adjustment is nice to have when doing inset drawers. I could tell by the sound that bottom drawer was Blum. They sound like something is dragging or scraping. These are my go to for sure. I would still like to see an in depth video as to see your process. Thank you ❤
Awesome! We’re complete converts.
Does it comes in a push to open, soft close configuration?
Unfortunately not. Just push to open, push to close. There’s only a handful of push to open soft close on the market. I think the typical mechanism is trademarked.
will try those in my next project, Salice are very sturdy sleds, + the fact that those are synchronized is a great plus compared to blum.
looking forward for an installation video :)
They’re really great slides and the price can’t be beat.
Those are amazing slides. Lots of adjustment. Thanks for sharing. Where is the best place to get them?
We buy from Hafele!
I see you guys graduated from the Salice F70s. Keep up the hard work. Love the channel and podcast.
This is the F70’s little brother! Since they released the Progressa the F70 was renamed Progressa+. They’re essentially the same slide just a higher weight rating with the Progressa+
a video on sizing the drawers would be amazing. that is my biggest issue when using undermount slides.
Stay tuned!
Good stuff as always...🤘🤘🤘
Thank you! 🙏🏼
we just started using progressas on our first project so far we are undecided on if we will continue with them , our findings so far:
1. The locking devices being so much further inward towards the center of the drawer makes it quite hard to grab them with both hands at the same time (especially with small hands) to disengage them.
2. When trying to disengage the locking devices it is hard to pull the drawer out when you squeeze both locks at the same time, when the devices disengage from the drawer finally it feels like you are going to break it to take it out, unless there is some hack we don't know about.
3. They seem a bit more unforgiving - some we did do go in and out smoothly, while others seem harder to pull out and when pushing in seem to have more resistance so you have to give it a more deliberate 'push'.
4. Noise -overall they seem ok, most of what we installed had these weird sounds going in and out, like metal trying to find its space, hard to explain. we are using 5/8 sides and subtracting 3/8 from the inside cabinet width.
I agree with you on 1. For 2 my technique is to open the drawer 3/4 of the way, squeeze the clips, and firmly open fully. Same way I do all drawers. As for 3 and 4 I haven’t experienced that at all. Could be an installation issue or sizing problem if the slides are good.
Terrific overview, thanks. I'm on board! I picked up a half-dozen slides a few days ago, and this will be my go-to from now on. And thanks for all of your other great videos. Cheers.
Very cool! Glad we could help.
They look amazing, durability would be the only question.
They’re tested at some absurd number of operations. Not positive the exact number.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
Thanks for watching!
I used these for the first time on a couple of vanities I built for my own bathroom. I designed the vanities with inset drawers and doors, and in the past with Blum slides, I've experienced a lot of 'drop' on the front of my drawers after attaching the drawer front and removing the spacers. While I did experience a bit of the same 'drop' with the Salices, it was perhaps 1/2 mm vs 1 or 2 mm with the Blum. I think this might be due to the rack and pinion system as well (just a guess).
I'll finish out using my stock of Blum slides for non-inset drawers I guess, and then only ever buy the Salice. I bought mine from Woodworker express online. Very fast shipping and reasonable pricing!
Nice! They’re really nice slides that’s for sure.
Great info. I could tell the Blums just by hearing that slop and click noise. Ill have to try the salice runners. I typically use Pride (Chinese Blum clones) because of their 6 way adjustment, and because they're about half the price of Blums, but they're not highest quality slides.
We tried cheap slides once and ended up losing money from all the time trying to get them to work right 😂
I vote for the installation video
Stay tuned!
Yup, easy to hear the difference
Agreed.
Great video as always plus, you guys respond to the comments, which is amazing nowadays. So if I read all the comments, if I already have a Blum jig, this will work with Salice?
Yes, exactly. The only thing that should be different is the drawer notch needs to be 2” wide or 3” wide to use the optional tilt adjustment.
As I said, you guys respond! Awesome great to know thanks much
Anytime!
You’ve got it. I make sure to respond to every single comment we get. We’re super appreciative of every single person who watches our videos.
I’ve been using the Progressa + so far. Love them for sure. Way nicer than Blum in my opinion.
Told ya you’d like them! 😝
amazing slides.. i want these....lol
Grab a pair!
Buying premade drawers, that's something I'm just starting to look into. Any recommendations on a source?
We buy from Hafele.
Can an existing Blum drawer slide set be replaced with the Salice without extensive modifications to the drawer or cabinet face? Obviously there has to be a 2 inch slot but that’s easy to do.
Yes! These are a direct drop-in for blum tandem.
Could you provide a possible source to buy these slides from? I did a quick search and it was unclear where to purchase? Maybe a link? Thanks for all the great information and content!
I look through the comments and found you already mention it. Thanks!
We purchase from Hafele.
Anytime!
Where can I purchase these?
We buy from Hafele.
That is nice. I dunno if you have ever used the Blum stabilizer bars, I mean they work but they are also so awkward at the same time if you know what I mean. You guys have a slick jig setup for notching drawers out for undermount tracks or do you just order them with the notches?
I have and yes it’s janky at best. We buy them pre-notched but I’ve done it several ways over the years.
@@TodaysCraftsmen Yea, Janky is a better description! lol
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I have been using Grass slides that have rack and pinion also. How would they compare?
We’ve use the Grass Dynapro and don’t have many complaints. I’m not a big fan of their clips. Also, I think they’re a little more expensive.
@@TodaysCraftsmen do seem alot more. I usually use the heavy duty ones. Think I will try these on the next build. Stopped using Blum slides but still use their hinges. Do you guys use Salice hinges also?
Yeah we made the switch completely a few years ago.
How much and where to buy them?
We buy from Hafele. Prices vary by distributor and your account but we pay about $21.
So there is no lateral adjustment on the back of the slides like the movento?
Lateral at the back? Do you mean tilt? This has optional tilt. It’s like a 50 cent add on.
@@TodaysCraftsmen No at the back of movento is a little wheel that will move the back of the drawer side to side. Sometimes a left or right front edge will stick out a little more than the other and you can adjust this with that little wheel to get all your faces completely flush. When doing a 6 drawer dresser getting all of the faces flush can be difficult. In the past I would shimm the back of the slide with a piece of veneer. What I did notice was these slide have elongated hole in front and back, so they would be good for using on solid wood gables allowing for expansion and contraction. I grind out the holes on the movento to solve this problem . But without the lateral adjustment I would not switch out from the movento.
These have lateral adjustment at the front. As well as in-out, and up-down. Tilt at the back. Also the price point is less than movento.
@@TodaysCraftsmen I mostly make inset Drawers. You may not notice this issue because maybe the drawer face rests on the gable front edges. Maybe the progressive movement may have solved this issue of left or right of the drawer sticking out more than the other? I will see if Hafele Canada has these and order a couple of sets to try out.
We build inset too. I’m still not sure what direction you’re saying this adjustment moves. In and out? The Progressa has independent adjustment in all 4 directions. Up-down, left-right, forward-backwards, and tilt up-down.
Are they location and bayonet hole compatible with BLUM Movento for example? I have a set of wide drawers like that I that could use those. How are these on wide drawers?
They’re a direct drop in for blum tandem. Not sure if movento is the same. They’re great for wide drawers since they’re synchronized already. Plus the high weight rating.
they blow away the movento, because they are rack and piñon and don't use a bar that you have to mess with
Plus Movento is for 5/8” material only IIRC.
@@TodaysCraftsmen I’m a 5/8 drawer kinda guy 😂
Me too unless I’m making the drawer myself for some reason.
Don't let the customer see those adjustment points.
Hahaha. Once you touch them it’s all on you!
$85 for a pair adds up. I’ll stick to wood.
$85? Not sure where you found that price… my price as a business including the clips is about $21.
are the price points similar to Blum?
Yes. We pay about $21 with clips.
@@TodaysCraftsmen What size at $21? Thx
21”
Those are really high end slides. For my shop cabinets I use cheap side mount slides.
Bill
They’re great! You’ve gotta try one out, Bill. Treat yourself! 😝
I don’t know, I think soft close rails are overrated.
I think you’re in the minority on that one.
@@TodaysCraftsmen That's OK and its also why I said "I think"
Better yet, don’t use drawer slides at all.
@@TodaysCraftsmen I’m not trying to be obtuse here or start an argument, I’m just saying soft close is a luxury feature not everyone appreciates partly because it’s so so expensive. Salice & other products are insanely expensive for the average consumer.
What market are you talking about? Because even a home center grade kitchen is going to have soft close slides and hinges standard. You can get soft close slides for like $5/pair or less. The Salice are less than $25/pair.
For only 125 dollars a slide. 😂
Try removing the 1
You should stop showing people about these slides, let them all use Blum and be ignorant, it will set our work off from everyone else.
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