Stone did a good job capturing the essence of the meeting - Mao not wanting to talk direct politics and only in an abstract philosophical conversation, Stone used this to have Mao confront Nixon with some uncomfortable thoughts about himself
To everyone complaining that this is 'bullshit' because Mao would never bash the Soviets or the Vietnamese, you're wrong. By this point in history Mao and the Soviets relationship was strained to the point of border skirmishes, mutual condemnation and censuring. The Sino-Soviet schism is what ultimately led to this meeting. Mao broke with the Soviets and made the (admittedly ballsy, and brilliant) decision to engage the U.S.A. As for Vietnam, don't let ideology get in the way of realpolitik, recall the Chinese and Vietnamese have a history of armed confrontation, and would have a war not too long after these events.
Mao had mass respect for America, more then the Soviets. His personal doctor who wrote about his time with Mao, was chosen simply because he was educated in the West.
The Soviets would eventually murder 130 million Russians, Mao had murdered nearly 80 million Chinese and with communism expanding into Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam another 30 million. Was he sick of the killing or did he realise he had been used by the same people who ran the gulags, the tribe of Henry?
@JC2023HD "history is symptom of our disease" "you're just as evil as I am" both mao and Nixon where psychopaths drunk on power who disguised that lust for power through nationalism. IMO Nixon wasn't as bad as mao but there are more similarities than differences
He's talking about how (this is well understood in Western Medicine, particularly Psychology) people who are Ultra Textbook Cluster B Personality Disordered climb to the top. They dominate Politics, Media & Entertainment, Journalism (The so called "Yellow Press" etc), and business.
0:08 永生不死 immortality 0:36 历史: history 0:52 老: old (presumably in the experienced and respectful meaning, like in 老师 (teacher)or in 老板 (boss)) 1:14 世界: world 2:45 邪恶: Evil 2:48 老: old (i'm assuming like in 老化=aging, outdated)
Right, because Nixon killed millions and millions of people. Right? This movie is an abomination. Stone just hates Nixon because he’s a hippy. Comparing Mao to Nixon is irresponsible and immature.
Andrew Pillion I tell you, it’s just not funny. Even though I feel like writing something sarcastic like “it’s funny...”. Because your ignorance is inexcusable. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge are solely responsible for the genocide in Cambodia. Pinning something like that on Nixon isn’t just reckless hate (of Nixon) it’s denying the dignity we must give to people who suffered and died in that horrible event. That’s very poor form on your part.
Andrew Pillion I tell you, it’s just not funny. Even though I feel like writing something sarcastic like “it’s funny...”. Because your ignorance is inexcusable. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge are solely responsible for the genocide in Cambodia. Pinning something like that on Nixon isn’t just reckless hate (of Nixon) it’s denying the dignity we must give to people who suffered and died in that horrible event. That’s very poor form on your part.
People forget that Nixon had literally JUST died the year before this film came out. I think we often forget that because the GOP pretty much had been acting like Nixon was dead for years and years. I feel like there was the same sort of disconnect with Reagan. When he actually died in like 2003 or whenever it felt like he’d been dead for a decade.
Nixon was relatively active up to the early 90s, it was the death of Pat Nixon that took him out of the public eye. No one really heard from him for about a year until the he died in early '94. Reagan battled Alzheimer's for ten years and was really last active in '92, so in turn there really is a lot of truth in what you say.
Agreed. He was also brilliant in 'The Last Emperor'. This illustrates perfectly how Mao baited the US to engage with them on his own terms. It was not the other way around.
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which” - George Orwell, Animal Farm
@@aaronthoming8192 it did help us win the Cold War, we just screwed up in the aftermath. But China only really allowed this because they were convinced the Soviets were going to win the Cold War, which is why they were making overtures to Gorbachev when they realized the US was going to win.
@@zackcross7190just like JFK. The billionaire skull n bones psychocrats hate this movie and JFK. The dark underbelly of American imperialism and foreign policy are exposed.
To be fair , it is quite ill disciplined , downright campy , and marked by Stone's powdered nose problem. The acting throughout is less than subtle. Don't think Stone ever made a subtle or deep movie.
I always felt this was Stone’s finest movie on so many levels. JFK is on its own a terrific movie but the lifting of the layers of this onion Oliver really had a master stroke in the making of Nixon.
Khrushchev: Please Mao, help us in the international struggle for the liberation of the proletariat, after all the Russians and the Chinese have an eternal brotherhood, right? Mao: Shut up, revisionist pig, traitor of the proletarian class and complacent with Western Imperialism. Nixon: 你想打乒乓球吗？ Mao: yes my lord, god bless the United States of America
Narcissism of small differences I guess, Mao would rather have undermined the USSR to be king of the communist world than collaborate with them against the most powerful capitalist country
@@LeviGulet I agree with your reasoning to an extent but I think ideologies aside realpolitik at the time won’t let China abide and appease Russia especially considering Vietnam Cambodia India which is Chinese turf and Russia always was cozying up to them inspite of china objection not to mention the Korea Stalin debacle the nuclear question and centuries of hate between the two
@Harvey Smith 🇷🇺 he did. He also said that he liked conservative leaders more than liberal leaders because he found conservatives more consistent and easy to work with
Oliver Stone shows no fear. He fears nothing, not even being pretentious. All of Scorsese’s teaching of Orson Welles were practically burned into Oliver Stones brain.
This visit of Nixon shocked so many western Maoists who always believed that Mao Zedong was the backbone of anti-imperialism. Seeing their icon with their enemy shocked many Maoist groups. It proofs to us revolutionary socialists that Mao wanted to be Stalin's successor. His conflict with Moscow was of imperial ambition, to lead the so called ''socialist'' world. After Stalin died, Mao believed he could lead, but the Soviets choose to abandon classic stalinism. So the Stalinist world was split between moderates in Moscow and the classic stalinists in Beijing!
I'm not a socialist, but this is actually true. Mao wanted to very much retain the dictatorship of the proletariat, while both Liu Shaoqi and Khruschev pushed for a collective leadership, whatever one may think about their policies per se.
@@markkuwerkkoRight! Krutchev called out stalin criminal record, he wanted to be like Lenin or trotsky to a lesser extent, but lacked intellectuals skills. He was a minimal reformist but too cautious.
sorry to say that,but you are wrong.one reason I like this scene very much is that the dialog exactly do base on the history.if you check the documents about the meeting between Mao and the Kissinger and Nixon,you will find some lines here and there.and Oliver Stone mixed them into this one scene.
blinkzone1- Oliver Stone used his feverish imagination to fill in many historical episodes in this film. His portrayal of Richard Helms, for instance, made for great filmmaking, but in no way resembled the real guy.
I would be grateful if someone fluent in Chinese could explain the meaning of those Chinese symbols (or whichever Far East language they derive from) that appear throughout the scene; my guess is various abstract nouns with negative connotations but I may be wrong. Help will be greatly appreciated :D
看着就像是刚刚认识普通话的小孩写的字，基本上和视频内容没有任何联系 It looks like a word written by a child who has just learned Mandarin, basically has nothing to do with the video content
Thank God Nixon opened China so that we can by cheap crap here in America. The American dream was a nice home and a car. Now, it is stealing enough to get my next hit.
Perhaps I am misinterpreting this but what I get from this scene is that Nixon is making a deal with the devil. Mao was not a nice man, to say the least. The great leap forward, the cultural revolution not to mention Chinese commitments to Korea, and a willingness to go nuclear because there are more than enough Chinese to soften to blow. Then Chinese involvement in Vietnam (albeit defacto). I get this feeling with the thunder playing in the background that Nixon knew this. However... It was all just to stick it to the Soviets whilst ensuring his place in history as a statesman that approached the second world despite it already being fractured. We are seeing the results of Nixon's approach to China to this day. A potential new Cold War between the United States and the PRC. What if Nixon had not gone to China? Would they have still been a veritable present-day North Korea? Unlikely. However, it does beg the question, if American offshoring had not taken place, would the PRC have been in the ascendant position as it is today? Comments welcome.
You’re blaming Nixon for something he had no control over. When Nixon left office China was still an agrarian backwater. Nixon never worked with Deng Xiaoping. It was subsequent administrations that allowed things to get so bad. All Nixon did was find an ally against the USSR
@Nicholas Boyd the communist chinese as an "ascendent" nation is only possible by their access to world markets enabled by The United States Navy patrolling the world's oceans without which 85% of china's oil imports become threatened and then WITHDRAWN! in light of the recent events in the Ukraine china is beginning to see the vulnerable position it can be in IF they upset the WORLD CART!
@@brandonhallam51 NOPE! just WITHDRAW The United States Navy from patrolling the navigable water routes of oil tankers to Asia and wait until someone screams for HELP!
I understand that the remarks were taken from the actual transcript of Nixon's and Mao's meetings during the visit. Stone did consolidate them to include in this scene, so the context might be off, but the actual dialogue was said by the participants. Are you shocked that old politicians would tell each other the truth, even though they often lie to us??
Not at all. It was an enormous triumph and success. By opening Sino American relations it further isolated the Soviet Union who then later began making concessions on Vietnam as did China which forced a way out for the US. It always paved the way for Detente with the Soviets which resulted in Strategic Arms Limitation agreements. The problem with foreign policy and diplomatic relations is that it’s a chess game where the players change. Regardless of how well one player has the hoard set up it can still be blundered by the next player…..in Chinas case mostly the Clinton administration, and further ignored by the Bush and Obama administrations.
That's his prerogative, since he writes all his scripts, and then directs. Save for Scarface. And I like his style of direction...often trippy or hypnotic, like Platoon or Born on the 4th of July, or chaotic and conspiratorial like JFK. His movies are not for everyone's taste, but they mirror the strangeness of real life. I'd compare him to a filmmaker like David Lynch..not afraid to go way out there to make a point, or challenge the audience.
Stone did a good job capturing the essence of the meeting - Mao not wanting to talk direct politics and only in an abstract philosophical conversation, Stone used this to have Mao confront Nixon with some uncomfortable thoughts about himself
To everyone complaining that this is 'bullshit' because Mao would never bash the Soviets or the Vietnamese, you're wrong. By this point in history Mao and the Soviets relationship was strained to the point of border skirmishes, mutual condemnation and censuring. The Sino-Soviet schism is what ultimately led to this meeting. Mao broke with the Soviets and made the (admittedly ballsy, and brilliant) decision to engage the U.S.A. As for Vietnam, don't let ideology get in the way of realpolitik, recall the Chinese and Vietnamese have a history of armed confrontation, and would have a war not too long after these events.
Mao had mass respect for America, more then the Soviets. His personal doctor who wrote about his time with Mao, was chosen simply because he was educated in the West.
Vietnam is very wary of China's expansion in the South China Sea.
You are very educated on this part of history. Yes. Soviet almost nuked China at that time.
Maos hatred for Russia and Vietnam at this time was well documented.
The Soviets would eventually murder 130 million Russians, Mao had murdered nearly 80 million Chinese and with communism expanding into Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam another 30 million. Was he sick of the killing or did he realise he had been used by the same people who ran the gulags, the tribe of Henry?
“The real war is in us, and history is a symptom of our disease...”
What a line...what a scene, at that time the visionary talent of Stone was impressive
"stone age tactics"
“History is a symptom of our disease.”
What a line, I don’t exactly understand it but it cuts deep.
Leaders are moved by their own demons and those demons can sometimes have catastrophic effects for innocent people.
the idiotic nonsensical ramblings from the youth of today - "I don't exactly understand it but it cuts deep".
@JC2023HD "history is symptom of our disease" "you're just as evil as I am" both mao and Nixon where psychopaths drunk on power who disguised that lust for power through nationalism. IMO Nixon wasn't as bad as mao but there are more similarities than differences
My reading is that the course of events, local and global, is shaped by the human condition. People's flaws and weaknesses reverberate into history.
He's talking about how (this is well understood in Western Medicine, particularly Psychology) people who are Ultra Textbook Cluster B Personality Disordered climb to the top. They dominate Politics, Media & Entertainment, Journalism (The so called "Yellow Press" etc), and business.
0:08 永生不死 immortality
0:36 历史: history
0:52 老: old (presumably in the experienced and respectful meaning, like in 老师 (teacher)or in 老板 (boss))
1:14 世界: world
2:45 邪恶: Evil
2:48 老: old (i'm assuming like in 老化=aging, outdated)
"The real war is in us" Words to live by, specially if you intend to be the world police
They really don't want to be world police. That's Americas wish and it's role.
"You are as evil as I am."
Ian Dunham lol. Those Tweets about Trump and the King of Saudi Arabia got me thinking about Nixon's China.
Right, because Nixon killed millions and millions of people. Right? This movie is an abomination. Stone just hates Nixon because he’s a hippy. Comparing Mao to Nixon is irresponsible and immature.
@@TOWgunner77 The bombing of Cambodia doesn't ring a bell? Uh. Weird.
I liked this movie. Wasn't Stone's best, far from his worst.
Andrew Pillion I tell you, it’s just not funny. Even though I feel like writing something sarcastic like “it’s funny...”. Because your ignorance is inexcusable. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge are solely responsible for the genocide in Cambodia. Pinning something like that on Nixon isn’t just reckless hate (of Nixon) it’s denying the dignity we must give to people who suffered and died in that horrible event. That’s very poor form on your part.
Andrew Pillion I tell you, it’s just not funny. Even though I feel like writing something sarcastic like “it’s funny...”. Because your ignorance is inexcusable. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge are solely responsible for the genocide in Cambodia. Pinning something like that on Nixon isn’t just reckless hate (of Nixon) it’s denying the dignity we must give to people who suffered and died in that horrible event. That’s very poor form on your part.
People forget that Nixon had literally JUST died the year before this film came out. I think we often forget that because the GOP pretty much had been acting like Nixon was dead for years and years.
I feel like there was the same sort of disconnect with Reagan. When he actually died in like 2003 or whenever it felt like he’d been dead for a decade.
Thanatos
Nixon was relatively active up to the early 90s, it was the death of Pat Nixon that took him out of the public eye. No one really heard from him for about a year until the he died in early '94. Reagan battled Alzheimer's for ten years and was really last active in '92, so in turn there really is a lot of truth in what you say.
Oliver Stone is a master of these spellbinding scenes of ruminations
Ric Young was spot on to play Mao
Agreed. He was also brilliant in 'The Last Emperor'. This illustrates perfectly how Mao baited the US to engage with them on his own terms. It was not the other way around.
He played Kao Kan from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984).
This rendition of the anthem is excellent, better than the others on youtube.
Nixon didn't like the rude remarks of Chairman Mao, so he ate his liver with some Fava Beans and a nice Chianti.... *Slurping sound*
Two hours later he was hungry again.
The interpreter's name is Tang Wensheng. She is portrayed by actress Bai Ling.
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which”
- George Orwell, Animal Farm
Nixon's great Foreign Policy triumph.
Which history will look back on dismally.
There is an old Vulcan proverb: "Only Nixon could go to China." And while Star Trek might just be a Sci-Fi show, there lies truth in these words.
Ironic as it really f'd us to this day.
@@aaronthoming8192 it did help us win the Cold War, we just screwed up in the aftermath. But China only really allowed this because they were convinced the Soviets were going to win the Cold War, which is why they were making overtures to Gorbachev when they realized the US was going to win.
Unless youre a factory worker in the Midwest.
How did this movie not win best picture in 1995
The Screenplay was nominated.. and lost out to the Screenplay for "The Usual Suspects".
This movie pissed a lot of people off at the time.
@@zackcross7190just like JFK. The billionaire skull n bones psychocrats hate this movie and JFK. The dark underbelly of American imperialism and foreign policy are exposed.
To be fair , it is quite ill disciplined , downright campy , and marked by Stone's powdered nose problem.
The acting throughout is less than subtle.
Don't think Stone ever made a subtle or deep movie.
What a short, but deep scene. Nixon's Great Triumph!
2 OG's chopping it up you dont see this anymore
I always felt this was Stone’s finest movie on so many levels. JFK is on its own a terrific movie but the lifting of the layers of this onion Oliver really had a master stroke in the making of Nixon.
Whatever you think about Oliver Stone's politics he can direct the hell out of a movie.
RIP Paul Sorvino
(1939-2022).
Khrushchev: Please Mao, help us in the international struggle for the liberation of the proletariat, after all the Russians and the Chinese have an eternal brotherhood, right?
Mao: Shut up, revisionist pig, traitor of the proletarian class and complacent with Western Imperialism.
Nixon: 你想打乒乓球吗？
Mao: yes my lord, god bless the United States of America
Narcissism of small differences I guess, Mao would rather have undermined the USSR to be king of the communist world than collaborate with them against the most powerful capitalist country
@@LeviGulet I agree with your reasoning to an extent but I think ideologies aside realpolitik at the time won’t let China abide and appease Russia especially considering Vietnam Cambodia India which is Chinese turf and Russia always was cozying up to them inspite of china objection not to mention the Korea Stalin debacle the nuclear question and centuries of hate between the two
"only Nixon could go to China" - Spock
"Logic is only the beginning of wisdom, not the end of it" - Spock
@@TheDataWorkshopThe universe will unfold as it should.
Mao "I voted for you in your last election" Huh?
Realpolitik, my friend. Realpolitik.
he's joking
I don’t like Oliver Stone’s movies on a personal level, but even I have to admit that joke was A+.
@Harvey Smith 🇷🇺 he did. He also said that he liked conservative leaders more than liberal leaders because he found conservatives more consistent and easy to work with
Nixon has released full conversations between Mao and him for that meeting. The content in this video definitely exaggerated.
'' how dih fat man get so many girls '' lol
The evil in this scene is off the charts
Yes but the CIA scene is another dimension !
Nixon was uncomfortable
That is one of Oliver Stone's greatest strenghts.. and that is showing how the [Darkness] controls people.
Oliver Stone shows no fear. He fears nothing, not even being pretentious. All of Scorsese’s teaching of Orson Welles were practically burned into Oliver Stones brain.
It's curious how Oliver Stone came to the decision to film this movie like it was a bad acid trip.
You answered your own question : Stone's love for nose powder.
This visit of Nixon shocked so many western Maoists who always believed that Mao Zedong was the backbone of anti-imperialism. Seeing their icon with their enemy shocked many Maoist groups. It proofs to us revolutionary socialists that Mao wanted to be Stalin's successor. His conflict with Moscow was of imperial ambition, to lead the so called ''socialist'' world. After Stalin died, Mao believed he could lead, but the Soviets choose to abandon classic stalinism. So the Stalinist world was split between moderates in Moscow and the classic stalinists in Beijing!
I think that was hoxhas thinking.
I'm not a socialist, but this is actually true. Mao wanted to very much retain the dictatorship of the proletariat, while both Liu Shaoqi and Khruschev pushed for a collective leadership, whatever one may think about their policies per se.
@@markkuwerkkoRight! Krutchev called out stalin criminal record, he wanted to be like Lenin or trotsky to a lesser extent, but lacked intellectuals skills. He was a minimal reformist but too cautious.
@@pikebishop8516lmao Khrushchev was scum and a liar and a liberal and would have been purged had stalin lived longer
I wish Oliver could do a film on Barry Soetoro.
And Big Mike Robinson
As much as Oliver Stone is a nutjob, I must admit this sequence was brilliantly done.
Making a deal with the devil.
When I feel sad, Mao Zedong is here to comfort me
Our Lady of China, pray for us!
❤️
Our Lady of China
wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_China
We don't really know what Nixon and Mao were talking about. This is scene is purely speculation.
exactly Mao would never say any of those things. Shows how little Stone knew about Mao.
blinkzone1 Those Tweets about Trump and the King of Saudi Arabia got me thinking of this.
sorry to say that,but you are wrong.one reason I like this scene very much is that the dialog exactly do base on the history.if you check the documents about the meeting between Mao and the Kissinger and Nixon,you will find some lines here and there.and Oliver Stone mixed them into this one scene.
blinkzone1- Oliver Stone used his feverish imagination to fill in many historical episodes in this film. His portrayal of Richard Helms, for instance, made for great filmmaking, but in no way resembled the real guy.
blinkzone1 🇨🇳>>>>🗽>>>>💻
Lol Mao is totally redpilled in this!
Bro took the blackpill there lmao.
I would be grateful if someone fluent in Chinese could explain the meaning of those Chinese symbols (or whichever Far East language they derive from) that appear throughout the scene; my guess is various abstract nouns with negative connotations but I may be wrong. Help will be greatly appreciated :D
Maciej Żuk The explanation refers to the "Big Lie".
永生不死 历史 老 世界 邪恶 老 人的命运
@@无名氏无名氏-r9y china man
@@Test-sd2qp 美国佬？
看着就像是刚刚认识普通话的小孩写的字，基本上和视频内容没有任何联系
It looks like a word written by a child who has just learned Mandarin, basically has nothing to do with the video content
And then Nixon ate his spleen.
you were making "deep fakes" in 2012? or is that an edited description? lol
Does anyone know who the people are who are photographed at 0:22?
Nixon's parents.
I'll tell you bullshit! This goddamn scene.
🤣🤣
Oliver Stone has a loose affiliation with historical facts . Nixon was a very tragic planner of foreign policy , far ahead of his time
Nixon was one of the smartest presidents with foriegn affairs
Mao was totally hitting on him
Mao had never met such strong political adversary
@@adamhyde7015 Stalin is not strong enough?
Please tell me what is the name of the movie ?
Nixon 1995
Mao had horrible teeth
Saint Apollonia
Our Lady of China
The Great Mother
Theotokos
There is an old Vulcan proverb: only Nixon could go to China. 🖖🏻🤨🇨🇳🇺🇸
"To the undiscovered country!"
Lol~ real boss players.
Too many CUTS!!!
Its to exemplify the chaos of the time though.
Where is this from?
The 1995 movie “Nixon” with Anthony Hopkins as Nixon, directed by Oliver Stone, my favorite movie of all time
Thank God Nixon opened China so that we can by cheap crap here in America. The American dream was a nice home and a car. Now, it is stealing enough to get my next hit.
Perhaps I am misinterpreting this but what I get from this scene is that Nixon is making a deal with the devil.
Mao was not a nice man, to say the least. The great leap forward, the cultural revolution not to mention Chinese commitments to Korea, and a willingness to go nuclear because there are more than enough Chinese to soften to blow. Then Chinese involvement in Vietnam (albeit defacto). I get this feeling with the thunder playing in the background that Nixon knew this. However... It was all just to stick it to the Soviets whilst ensuring his place in history as a statesman that approached the second world despite it already being fractured.
We are seeing the results of Nixon's approach to China to this day. A potential new Cold War between the United States and the PRC. What if Nixon had not gone to China? Would they have still been a veritable present-day North Korea? Unlikely. However, it does beg the question, if American offshoring had not taken place, would the PRC have been in the ascendant position as it is today? Comments welcome.
You’re blaming Nixon for something he had no control over. When Nixon left office China was still an agrarian backwater. Nixon never worked with Deng Xiaoping. It was subsequent administrations that allowed things to get so bad. All Nixon did was find an ally against the USSR
Although on an aside I think your interpretation of this scene is spot on
@Nicholas Boyd the communist chinese as an "ascendent" nation is only possible by their access to world markets enabled by The United States Navy patrolling the world's oceans without which 85% of china's oil imports become threatened and then WITHDRAWN! in light of the recent events in the Ukraine china is beginning to see the vulnerable position it can be in IF they upset the WORLD CART!
Yep Nixon sold out the West
@@brandonhallam51 NOPE! just WITHDRAW The United States Navy from patrolling the navigable water routes of oil tankers to Asia and wait until someone screams for HELP!
Two of the sweetest men to have ever existed 😅
Ric Young? Mao zi dong? Real? Fake?
Tyrant meets crook
Me thinks Oliver Stone took one too many shrooms in 'Nam. The man sure does fucking hate Nixon, when he was one of the best presidents we've had.
i thought the movie was very sympathetic towards him
All the fast cut editing ruins the scene.
I feel like Trump and Kim Jong Un's talk went in a similar directions
Lol
Difference between Trump and Nixon is that Nixon’s talk lead to something massive, and Trump’s talk lead to nothing.
@@zackcross7190 Nixon would Crush Kim Jong Un....
Subtle
1:36
一个大胖子哪来的这么多女人呢？
哈哈哈哈 有钱的人就是帅的
What a stupid scene... No matter from where one looks at it...
Nixon was the last great man American president.
While I obviously don't agree, I assume that means you are a Conservative. Didn't you like Reagan? If not, why?
AROOoooo!
He doesn't look anything like Mao in 1972. Mao was decrepit!!
websurfin2010: Mao stank.
Mao Zedong😍
Mao Zedong is in my dreams and in my heart
Because of Mao Zedong, I was so brave today
The Courage of Achilles
Vietnames Ho chi Minh hero
The dialogue sounds like bullsh*t though. No way would Mao say this. Absolute nonsense.
I understand that the remarks were taken from the actual transcript of Nixon's and Mao's meetings during the visit. Stone did consolidate them to include in this scene, so the context might be off, but the actual dialogue was said by the participants. Are you shocked that old politicians would tell each other the truth, even though they often lie to us??
Mao Zedong makes me feel good when I’m hurt so bad
Mao Zedong gave me great power for the situation this morning
Fompie (bool-shit)
This remains the WORST US diplomatic policy we ever made.
Not at all. It was an enormous triumph and success. By opening Sino American relations it further isolated the Soviet Union who then later began making concessions on Vietnam as did China which forced a way out for the US. It always paved the way for Detente with the Soviets which resulted in Strategic Arms Limitation agreements. The problem with foreign policy and diplomatic relations is that it’s a chess game where the players change. Regardless of how well one player has the hoard set up it can still be blundered by the next player…..in Chinas case mostly the Clinton administration, and further ignored by the Bush and Obama administrations.
Hardly. It was one of Nixon’s greatest accomplishments.
Oliver stone ruins every script. This is film schooly trash.
That's his prerogative, since he writes all his scripts, and then directs. Save for Scarface. And I like his style of direction...often trippy or hypnotic, like Platoon or Born on the 4th of July, or chaotic and conspiratorial like JFK. His movies are not for everyone's taste, but they mirror the strangeness of real life. I'd compare him to a filmmaker like David Lynch..not afraid to go way out there to make a point, or challenge the audience.
Oliver Stone has been nominated 6 different times for writing Screenplays.. and he Won for Midnight Express.
U are schooly trash in taste. Probably u love a painting of a soup can
What the fuck does schooly trash mean. That's an odd phrase