DIY Fail: Attempting to install and test new shocks on my Royal Enfield Interceptor
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- DIY Fail: Attempting to install and test new shocks on my Royal Enfield Interceptor: After my last set of shocks expired on my custom Interceptor I decided to take the opportunity to upgrade them to something a bit better - surely I can fit these myself, it's only 4 bolts, how hard can it be?? Stay tuned to find out......
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That screwdriver being levered on the swing arm must have caused a collective "NOOO" on the Internet!
It did from me, even the non damaging first time.
Yes when I edited it back I thought the same!! What I do for entertainment!! (Yeah right!!)
The nation held its breath! 😉😁
What brand and size of the rear tire?
The chuckle brothers.😂
Morning Andy
I think it may have gone easier if you had removed both the old shocks before attempting to fit the new ones. That way you could have used the jack to adjust the height and thus the angle of the swing arm to match the length of the new shocks without having to compress them.
Nope.
Andy did it exactly how it should have been done by a novice. He now has earned his QBF.
Qualified By F-up
I second this, haven't done this for many a year but that's how you do it.
It’s always reassuring to see that it isn’t only me who sometimes finds things don’t go exactly to plan. Smashing honest video.
It's not DIY unless you spent double the expected time in the garage and throw at least one spanner at the wall 😂
I’m on week 2 replacing a shock on a BMW X3. You’re not alone.
I'm happy if I can complete a task without having to go out and buy a tool that I'm missing :)
It’s like looking into a mirror watching you do the shocks. So many times I’ve tried a job that’s theoretically simple, and it turns into an all day nightmare😆
Interesting how big a difference the shocks make to the comfort!
Thank you Freddie - that makes me feel much better! ….and yes, what an improvement to the ride!
Amazing how long it took me to take the fairings off my Panigale V2 and put them all back on perfectly aligned!
Best part of four hours I recon!
Hi Andy,
I am sure most of us if not all of us have at one time tried to do something on our bikes and had a minor mishap and caused some damage.
I think it's good that you included the part where you scratched the swinging arm as others can learn from this.
A lot of UA-camrs would have edited that out, so thanks for being sincere.
A very helpful video. Don't forget to patch up the paintwork :)
Sandy
Yes I will - it’s not a big deal and thought it would be fun for others to see me suffer!
@@TheMissendenFlyer always nice to see people are human! I'd count myself quite handy mechanically... didn't stop me from accidentally removing a chunk of lacquer from the fairing of my new R1250RS last summer when simply taking off the decals! - a black enamel touchup pen will sort yours out no doubt!
*"Now I know it's mine," is what I say when I put a dent or scratch on my machines.*
@@commander_lard I agree, we have all made mistakes and it's great that Andy included his and I hope it doesn't deter from future spanneribg efforts. I do all my own work and it's so satisfying to see a job well done but it has taken me years to build the knowledge and skills, and the never complete tool kit 😂
Not yet I haven’t.
Repaired some damage on my first gsx-s125 dome but the previous owner crashing but not done any Mai the car damage beside replacing one bolt on a Honda CBR650R who’s Allen head was made of cheese!
Just had all the fairings off the V2 and found a bolt the dealer had lost as plastic washer off but again all went back together properly without a scratch!
When you're using a screwdriver to lever something always a good idea to put some soft material around the end of the screwdriver in order to prevent a scratch occurring, bit late in this case but good to know 👍
Well if you notice prior to that mishap I was doing exactly that!
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍👍
And... Use a small pry tool with a bent end, instead of a screwdriver for jobs like this. If you use a screwdriver in this way you risk doing exactly what you did..
Thought i was watching a Laurel and Hardy film for a minute. 😂
Love a bit of Laurel and Hardy me….
Well done Andy! Theres no shame in not knowing what to do or getting stuck, you had a go thats the main thing & ask for help when unsure. 100% mate. Even us experienced tech's have to learn somewhere, no one gets it right 1st time all the time. You learn from having a go! 🙂My tip would have been to remove both shocks together, and as you're buddy did, bottom or threaded end 1st, then a tiny squirt of silicone spray would have had the top slip on. This doesn't affect the rubber bush, just aids installation. Shocks look good & seem to be a good fit financially & physically. I rate Hagon. Nice 👍
I joined London Amb Service in 1986,during my training an instructor said "we don't Know what we don't know" that's always stuck with me, good video.
Andy, you forgot “get in there, ya bastard!”
Works for me.
Great to see such an honest video as I think we have all been there. We think it might be an easy job and then we do end up getting stuck or wishing for some help. Scratching the swinging arm was the best example of how we learn things by doing them ourselves.
It's good to see other motorcyclists who have as little mechanical skill as I do! Great video Andy, the bike sounds amazing too. Love how excited you got seeing that shock sit home. Cheers!
When I was still a teenager I built a complete bike from several tea-chests of parts (engine already built, luckily). I can't remember how many cock-ups I made but it was PLENTY.
A few years later I was confident enough to do engine top end rebuilds. The point is that you don't learn anything without making mistakes.
Brave of you to show us your enthusiastic efforts, warts and all. I hope this encourages others to have a go - doing your own spannering is one of the joys of motorcycling.
Cheers Chris - that was my intent on putting this video up, helping other learn by my errors....
Thanks to Nigel for his kind assistance.
While y'all were wrenching on the shocks I was admiring those tires you have on the RE. I need some off-road tire options for my Super Tenere. I think some similar tread would work nicely for some moderately unpaved road riding I want to do in the future.
Amazingly mild expletives when you scratched the swingarm, you are a gentleman.
Thank you!
I have made all those same mistakes, Andy. These days if I have access to a jack, I pull both shocks (when applicable) and adjust the height to match the new stuff. And I also use a touch of silicone based lubricant on rubber bushings when I need to push them on, or a small bit of spit will do in a pinch.
Always good to have a mate as a backup plan. And every expert I know has a long list of cock ups to become one.
These are the best videos, because most of us can relate to it. We have all been there at some point, I had a huge saga fitting some heated grips once, can’t bring myself to speak of it even now 😢😢. Can’t wait for some more spanner stuff in the Garage.
Yes some you win some you lose don't you.....on balance I seem to be about 50:50 with my spannering!
Andy next time you pass a camping/ caravan shop go in and buy yourself a rubber mallet (the type used to knock in tent pegs) you'll be amazed what can be achieved with said implement with zero damage! You should have put a thin strip of wood between screwdriver and swing arm! Ps really sorry to see how you were messed about and conned with your customisation of this bike, thankfully the Chris fella came to the rescue! Loving the channel as always!
Reminds me of my apprentice mechanic days, I'd see the senior mechanics doing jobs that looked easy , I'd be given the same job , and think this will be handy, but you'd always have something and normally something unexpected giving you trouble, never be afraid to ask for help or advice my chief mechanic would always tell us. Because everyone in that garage would have had something similar and even the most experienced will tell you, you are always learning some new problem will always catch you out. Good video mate
Cheers Martin - appreciate that!
Nice one Andy, I knew you would be happy with the Hagon shocks, I always have been. They are in keeping with the style of the bike too and in my opinion, look better than the originals. It's a shame you struggled too, my late Father was an excellent, highly skilled engineer and I'm realising how much he taught me over the years, which was a blessing and saved me a fortune too.
Good on you Andy for having a go,it’s how we learn,UA-cam is your learning companion at times, very handy to have knowledge of your bike; on a side note I live in Australia and last year I spoke to the boys at Hagon, as you said more than helpful and so knowledgeable, put their shocks on my Triumph T100 Bonneville, completely different bike.
Last time I bought a Hagon was over 20 years ago. Glad to hear they are just as good now.
We have all learnt by trial and error and error but usually in private. Great to see you sharing your attempt and showing that these jobs are not beyond DIY mechanics. Although each new job is a challenge, the next time you change shocks will be fine by yourself….
There won’t be a next time if I can find Nigel!!
Local 'poundshop' had Tipex correction pens/sets which is ideal for marking any nut/bolt/fitting and easy to see if anything is coming loose.
I did wince before the damage and wondered what would get caught first, paintwork, wiring or brake pipe, glad it all worked out in the end.
I'm glad you showed this video,shows that if you're struggling with anything on a bike get a mechanic to do the job or you're risking damaging your bike or even leaving it in a dangerous condition. There's a gent on UA-cam ,who I won't name,currently completely rebuilding an extremely powerful motorcycle with ...as he freely admits....no mechanical experience or,sadly,aptitude. It's actually scary to watch and I sincerely hope he never gets the thing on the road given what I've seen already.
I'm sure he;'s getting plenty of advice form viewers?? That is the beauty of UA-cam, there's always someone who has been there and done it and can advise....
@@TheMissendenFlyer He is,this being the internet not all of it good,sadly he's not big on listening either.
Just spent the weekend fitting an exhaust and still not quite there but its the only one way to learn! I am watching this video while waiting for my mechanic guru to arrive!
Glad it's not just me - thanks for watching!
Don't know if it's already been said but remove both old shocks before fitting the new ones. Then you can jack the bike up and down to align the new ones. Also. Don't do anything up tight until everything is fitted. That gives you enough slack in the system. Winding out the pre load can help to soften things up a bit.
When you started levering the screwdriver on the swing arm i had to watch from behind the sofa 😅
Yes I knew the risks as well!
Very impressed with your humility mate. There are others on YT who would never admit their fallibility; doing so would severely bruise their massive egos. And yep Nigel seems like a proper decent guy.
He’s baled me out on numerous occasions!
Del boy?
@@kwak1k no mate but i'm sure you won't need many guesses to nail it - the one i'm thinking of really meets all the criteria stated above
A center stand is priceless for a motorcycle
I followed the exact same process on my 2010 Thunderbird. Popped some piggy back nitros on it. Had to persuade them with a mallet as well! Good effort Andy! Front forks are next….
Cheers Darren - glad it's not just me!
I bought some Hagon rear shocks and progressive front springs for my 1988 goldwing, the ride and handling is superb, the staff at Hagon are very knowledgeable and friendly, I'd reccomend them every time 👍
Agreed!
Yep we’ve all been there when attempting something. I now wrap my fork legs before taking front wheel off as I slipped with the wrench and scraped my freshly painted forks once
Well mate it just goes to show that things don't always turn out as simple as they look. Shame you damaged the paint work but as you've said it's more a point of horse's for course's with certain things so they are best left to those with experience.
Thanks for the video always nice to watch.
Glad you made such a big improvement 👍
Whenever I’ve done those, always found it’s easier to do the bottom then use the lift to help me align the top of the shock :)
Fair play Andy. Admire your honesty and learnt something.
Thank you!
Well done on having a go at it yourself. The Hagons are a good upgrade, esp after a few hundred miles when they've loosened up a bit.
There's a certain channel that this will be an absolute joy to ............. this channel continues to be comedy gold............
Glad to help!
Nice vid. Glad you got it sorted & are happy with them. I think Hagon are the best value new shocks you can get in the UK imo.
I watch your channel from time to time but every video on this bike I have to watch. It’s just like watching a car accident in slow motion from a side street. This bike is cursed from day one. Thank god you have so many other good bikes. ❤
I’m stunned by the amount of hatred I get regarding this bike - it’s just a fun project and I love it! Mostly I think jealousy is at play….
You seem quite angry. I never meant to belittle it. We all make mistakes and buy a bike that hasn’t been good. I really don’t know how you can keep defending it. Id say plenty of people like your gold wing and gs and Ducati. But jealous of a royal Enfield that cost you a fortune ? I like your channel ! This bike is just a disaster really. Doesn’t mean I don’t like your channel just cause I think one of your bikes isn’t great. You do seem quite angry lately. Chill out. It’s only a bike channel.
Yes I'm very much known for my anger :0) All the best.....
I love watching watching you work on a bike. A complete antidote to watching Allen Millyard and Dave Mitchell (The Classic Motorcycle Channel) who both make me seem a complete buffoon, whereas you make me feel quite competent. Well done for trying and being so honest. Great stuff!
Glad to help!
No skin lost or moved, and a minor scratch that can be touched up, not bad! Sometimes even holding your tongue right doesn't work. Thanks to your tech support friend its a done deal.
Yes I’m taking it as a win!
Fair play for having a go. As you said yourself, knowledge and experience are the best tools in the box.
At least you tried, even though you admit, to not being very mechanically minded.
Good effort mate.
Thank you!
It's always the way - something that you think will be easy, often takes a lot longer. One way to avoid having to compress the springs by hand is to use a wood working ratchet clamp such as an Irwin Quick Grip. You can add just the right amount of compression so that the holes align easily with the post.
Or could they be adjusted (preload) slightly differently do you reckon?
Honest video Andy. Some would have edited out the difficult bits, full credit for leaving them in. Hagon good choice for quality and value for money, are you going to upgrade the front ? It’s worth doing.
Would like too but not too sure how to go about doing it - maybe I should speak to Hagon again!
@TheMissendenFlyer The Hagon distributor I dealt with recommended Norman Hyde progressive springs, which I found to be a very nice match to the Hagon shocks. They were very inexpensive.
Andy,
I’ve been in your shoes many a time and it’s nice to see and read in the comments that I’m not the only one. I’ve done many a shock change and don’t always use stock length. I’ve found that taking all the weight off the back and then using a Winbag or Air Shim to fine tune alignment works spectacularly. Great video and sorry about the paint work.
By throwing a few spanners at a bike yourself now and then as you did, you get so much more from the whole biking experience.
Without getting too "zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance" about it, there's something satisfying in trusting your life or at the very least the skin on your knees and elbows to a machine you worked on yourself.
My mate call guys who just ride and go to the main dealer to get their chain adjusted "all torque and no wrench"
Well done Andy
Thanks, I appreciate that!
I love Hagon shocks. I've fitted them to my Harley sportster. URAL 750. BMW R80. Plus a couple of other bikes. I thoroughly recommend them.
A small amout of rubber grease on the shock spigot always helps the shock push on easier.
Good to an honest garage video. As we all know nothing ever goes to plan. 👍
Thanks for sharing Andy, this is a life changer for our amazing RE bikes, I will try to get one of this to my continental gt. Thanks for sharing your experience in replacing and riding this new shocks!
As already noted, we look forward to the new cartridge kits installed in the front forks.
You now know you've done half a suspension upgrade with new rear shocks 😁
This video brought back memories of DIY glory. Years ago I owned a 1981 Suzuki GS 1100E. I decided to swap out the stock exhaust for a set of Vance & Hines 4-in-to-1 headers. "How hard could it be?", I thought. I found out about five hours later. I sure do miss that bike!!
A very acceptable amount of "Engineers screwdriver" usage 👍👍👍
Lovely to see. Most youtubers would have either edited that out or not put the video up but as brutal as it was to see it is an honest warts and all video which will help people withe their own bikes so thanks for posting it.
My pleasure (and my thoughts exactly)
Hagon are excellent shocks for the money.
I’ve been in the automotive industry for nearly 20 years (😳 feels like a long time when you type it down…) and sometimes jobs just go like that. Good job Mr Flyer 👏
Cheers Craig - appreciate that….
I fitted a similar pair of Hagon shocks to my Continental GT last summer and find them ideally suited to the bike. More sophisticated and considerably more expensive alternatives require lots of trial and error adjustments to get them right but Hagons are simple and work well straight out of the box. I was told to start with the softest preload setting, put a few miles on the bike then adjust them up to the medium setting which I did and the handling is now far better than when the bike was new. Mind you I have also fitted a YSS fork kit and a pair of Avon Roadrider tyres both of which I can wholeheartedly recommend.
Yes I did look at the YSS but I think these are fit for purpose - I'm very happy with them. Thnaks for watching!
So I guess we can look forward to the "paint touch-up" video next😂. Not to worry, most of us have learnt by trial and error! At least you had a go👍.
Not sure that's quite worthy of a video - and it's done now!
It may have been a struggle for you Andy but for the rest of us it was terrific fun, thanks!
Here’s what you learnt
1. When using a lever on a finished surface always protect the surface and use a pad under the end of the lever.
2. Always get an assistant if the job involves the bike not being supported in a robust manner.
3. It is vastly preferable to remove both shocks with the bike supported securely under the engine to allow the swing arm to move and allow easy alignment of the new shocks.
4. And this is specific to you Andy, always ensure that you are working hard at your day job or making videos whilst someone else does the mechanical work on your bikes 😂
Re 4 - This is my day job!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank Christ for that!, I was worried you might be an aircraft mechanic as I’m off on holiday soon 🙂
Good to see the story had a happy ending. A great value performance upgrade.
Good advice to remove both old shocks first. Also worth checking the two new shocks visually before fitting. One of the reasons for going to a monoshock design was the slight differences in cheaper shocks
What a brilliant video, honest, funny, and informative, although you did forget to thank Mrs TMF for her nail polish.
You did the right thing removing one at a time.
You need one person sitting or leaning on the bike to compress it and one pushing the shock on.
If the shocks are a different length you remove both shocks and jack the rear, but you still need two people because the bike WILL topple.
Glad you got it sorted.
Cheers!
Well at least you had a go and now we know how it should be done. 👍
Is this just baiting a Dirty Garage Guy reaction video? Love this marketing synergy.
At least you had a go at doing the job, 10/10 for effort, perhaps not quite as high for actual result. Nigel takes the 10!
When I did mine I removed both exhausts and the rear wheel and supported the bike on the centre stand. Was a good learning activity on removing and fitting the rear wheel which is a right pain in the proverbial.
Yes way beyond me that….
Comedy gold. Just wondering when you’re opening up The TMF motorbike service centre. 😮
Now there’s a thought!
Glad you got it sorted with a little help from the pros. On critical fasteners like these I will use a little blue Loctite (medium strength thread locker) on the threads to prevent them from loosening off. Especially important on machines that vibrate a lot.
Absolutely cracking video, Andy! Sharing the humility of struggling with something and not being afraid to ask for help is inspirational in so many ways. And the fact that Nige got it sorted for you at the end and that you got to have a lovely little ride just before sunset, on a completely transformed bike, with a grin on your face so broad that it was visible through the back of your helmet, well, that's exactly what you deserved. One of your best, for sure.
Thank you - I appreciate the kind comment!
Can't help commenting that Nige didn't contribute a lot. Maybe just a bit more determination. Sometimes a little stubbornness is what it takes.
He has magic hands that I don't have!
Back in 1977 Hagon's straitened out a buckled Honda Comstar wheel for me. Saved me a fortune, great company.
As the axiom goes when referring to dumping a bike, "we've all done it," so goes with causing scratches, etc. The good news is that the upgrade is on, and it's working out great. Cheers to that, and cheers to Nigel.
Indeed!
Hagon shocks are brilliant value used them for years on all kinds of bikes and never had an issue with them.
A little bit of washing up liquid on the top rubbers will help, if it's really cold warm them up a touch. Hagon are an excellent company always very helpful.
Yes I found them so for sure…
A video of real life motorcycle tinkering with such humility thrown in too. And the satisfaction shown at the end proves that trying to fix something yourself (with a little help from a friend) is what makes it all worthwhile. Exactly what me and a mate or two have done and still do, with our bikes. Brilliant and well done.
Cheers Mick - appreciate that!
Mr Hudson is going to have a field day with this one! 🤣😂.. fair play for showing the 'mishap' on camera.
No idea who “Mr Hudson” is but cheers for the comment!
Jack the bike up higher, the back wheel clear og the ground
Why try to physically compress the shock to line it up when a simple tweak on the jack or gentle lift of the bikes sub frame will do the same thing. Sometimes you need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture even on a simple job if it's not going as you think it would.
@@stevecade857 EXACTLY 👌
I put hagons on the rear of my Harley Electra glide. Transformed the bike. Much better. Shows up how crap the front springs are now but Hagon do those also.
You’re quite right. Hagon customer service is brilliant
I was sitting watching this screaming at the TV your going to scratch the swing arm and when you did I just sighed 😞 I love your channel Andy I really do but this one was a hard watch from a bike mechanics point of view .credit for trying tho and if you don't try you will never learn.
Anybody that gets the spanners out and has a go is to be applauded👏👏👏Im pretty hopeless on mechanicking too...
Cheers Paul!
You've sold the Hagons, Ill have to get a pair. Nice to see honesty about how an easy job is never easy, on this showing you could become a fellow member of the Basil Fawlty Institute of Engineers like me except you did not beat your bike with a branch or hurl a spanner across the workshop 😂
It's only a matter of time!
Helped a friend of mine change his Thruxton shocks. On reassembly he snapped the top mounting bolt. Fortunately I'm really good with a bolt extractor. (lots of practice) and had a spare replacement bolt (lots of pack-ratting). Post-mortem revealed that the bolt had been over-tightened by the shop that previously changed the shock.
Well done you! nearly 😄 fair play on being so open and honest. I was screaming at the screen when you started to lever the shock against the swing arm🤷♂️
Please do more maintenance videos or additional part fitting, we could all do with a smile now and then in this day and age
Cheers 🍻
Glad you enjoyed it!
After 20 years I switched out the stock front springs and rear shocks on my 84 BMW R100RT with replacements from Progressive Springs. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Should have done it years ago. Improved the handling immensely.
Nice one…
I found that fitting mine on the sidestand was a 10 minute job. One side at a time, bottom end first, then either lean on the seat or pull it toward the sidestand to fit the top end.
You were luckier than me then!
...well done sir!.... I'm also a member of the ham-fisted mechanical nightmare club. Nice to see a youtuber that shows the mistakes as well as the victories. Great vid.
I have precious few victories!
l always found Hagon helpful when l was building a Triton in the mid 90s. My alloy wheels.. (rims)..were build by them, also advised and suppied rear shocks....Mine bolted on no problem but l understand your pain...sometimes bad language works!, if not, 'stop'... go make cup of tea, light up cigarette if applicable....deep breath then start again. Most times a clear head solves the problem....Enjoy your new ride.... Greeting from España.
Greetings from Gran Canaria!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Andy , nice warm ride on good surfaced roads...🏍
Got Hagon shocks on my interceptor. Very happy with the results. Haven’t yet taken blue lettering off but not sure I like how it looks on a black bike. I was told putting them on was an easy job but I know my inner bodge and took straight to local mechanic. Watching your video makes me feel I made the right choice 🤣
You sure did!
Absolutely love my Hagon Monoshock and Progressive springs. Totally changed my handling for the better too.
You give it a go Andy and now you know it's all a learning curve , job done and knowledge gained good day at the office I'd say 😉👍
Oh man. I was cringing SO hard at the metal screwdriver against the swing arm. Then the scratch came in! I actually shouted, "NO!" when that happened! Hope you get the paintwork sorted and matched up!
Interesting video! I've done front fork replacement on a Chinese bike that I had, which were simple enough. But damn, those looked proper fiddly!
Glad to hear it's had some an effect on the ride! Stay safe!
I knew you meant business when your coat came off 😂👍🏻👍🏻
Exactly!
Red rubber grease is always handy to have to help move things into place to line them up - its all about learning as you go. :-)
I remember Alf Hagon from years ago. Think he was a grass-tracker or something. Anyway, their products have always been superb imo! 👍
Just had 2" of snow yesterday morning and I'm riding my bike tomorrow to have my tech have some accessories added. Reading all the comments assured me that I'm better off paying him to get it right the first time. I was shocked when I saw the screwdriver but not surprised when the "ouch" occured. I felt the pain all the way across the big pond.!! 👍👍🏍🏍🏍🙋♂️
Yeah I knew it was going to happen too!
I winced when u scratched the swingarm, we've all done it , its part of the DIY experience 😃
Yes I knew it was likely to happen too!!
I’d invest in a socket set, easiest way to take out a knuckle is a spanner trying to loosen a tight bolt, also a jack under the bike & a lever under the wheel you can use the weight of the bike to align. I can’t believe your ‘expert’ fumbled so much too
I do indeed have two socket sets.....
Bravo for giving this a go Andy. The easiest looking jobs always turn into full scale projects. You could be faulted for having no gloves, eye protection, and some janky tools. Dressed like you were going to Tesco, and no protection between that screw driver and your frame, but this is exactly how it would have gone down in my garage, and the garages of any average DIYer. We've all been here. Go to the pub, proudly tell your mates how you upgraded the rear springs. Leave out the rest. 😉
Thanks David appreciate those words -I like to show the rough with the smooth, don’t want anyone thinking I have too easy a time….