Yeah I was raised Seventh-day Adventist and the Sabbath was definitely on a Saturday for us. Started my dislike for organized religion because I oftentimes couldn't watch Saturday morning cartoons.
I don't know why religion loves to set itself against everything that kids care more about than church, but it never seems to work out well for religion in the long run.
Imagine defending this bill by suggesting that it's about the "historical tradition" of law in the US - by demanding that it be put in math classrooms, drama classrooms, chemistry classrooms, woodworking classrooms, etc. If this had so much as a shred to do with history or law, it would be compelled only in history and social studies classes. Imagine defending this bill as "not establishing a state religion" - by demanding that the state literally puts up a poster that says students shall follow no other gods besides the one referenced in the document.
Hi GG, Glad to see I wasn't the only one that thought TST would have a thing or two to say about this. Maybe if we saw the 7 tenets go up, kids might see what actual morality looks like. Keep up the great work :)
Well if they can have their Ten Commandments ,when there's actually 613 of them, if they can have them in their schools then it means every other religion whether they are abrahamic or not should be able to put their set of rules in the school system.
@@littleredpony6868 The baby goats are still in Heavens as Stars. Capella has also been associated with the nymph who owned Amalthea. The goat's Gorgon-like appearance led Zeus to skin it and wear the hide during the war with the Titans. This aegis helped turn the tide, and thus Amalthea and her kids were placed in the stars as Capella and the Haedi, or Kids. Amalthea is the goat who nursed baby Abraham in Jewish myth. The same goat who nursed baby Zeus. Abram's sign is the Ram (Aries constellation). Aries is a Fire/Jupiter sign. Haran's sign is the Lion (Leo). Leo is a Fire/Jupiter sign. Nahor's sign is Sagittarius a Fire/Jupiter sign. The three Fire (SUN) signs are aka Sol Om On (Sun Sun Sun).
if you want the ten commandments put up in schools, make sure you have the tenets of the satanic temple can be on display too: I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason. II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions. III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own. V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs. VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused. VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. the spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
@@HarryNicNicholas Something like the 13 lunar months that Solomon the Sun takes to build his house. He begins building his Temple to God (Jupiter) in the fourth month of his reign aka April.
Do they hire inspectors to go from classroom to classroom at the start of each day to check for posters? Is this extra work added on to the principal? A member of the school board?
USA seems proud of its Constitution (rightly so, in this Brit's opinion) yet the majority religion struggles to tolerate it. A reminder, if any were needed, that rights & fairness aren't safe from religious meddling.
GG, would love to hear your thoughts on Alvin Toffler's Future Shock. I read that when it came out and the guy was prescient af. I think we're living it.
The problem that is inherent in a public education system is, what sort of value system does one teach? What is the purpose of education to begin with?
@JennyLovesWillRiker It is hard to see how the Ten Commandments causes teen pregnancies, using bleach internally to treat pathogens, violence against minorities and voluntary slavery. But what should we teach youth about the Declaration of Independence, with its famous line, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Should we be teaching 5th graders logical thinking skills, so that they can see the logical fallacies in the argument of Locke and Jefferson?
@JennyLovesWillRiker I agree. Some values are not valuable. If a parent wants to teach their own values, ethics, or morals, great. That's parenting. It's not something that a parent can legitimately pass off to someone else - then not like the outcome. Yes, some wealthy do this with nannies, but someone supervises the nannies as to what they teach.
The kinds of Christians who support bills like this have an idol in the form of their bible. They worship the book and cherry-pick the parts that support their views regardless of contradictions or even updates given later in the text. I worry that the current court will rule in favor of the bill because precedent be dammed seems to be the attitude of the conservative members.
Yeah. I'd have a little more respect for them if they'd stop thumping it and read it for once. Oh, wait! It's too holy to actually read. We know that reading the Bible is the #1 cause of atheism in the US and some other Christian-majority countries.
I've heard that rules have been added to so that the text can be read in all areas of the room, and it must be the specific ten commandments that most people know, not the other one, lol.
@@rudra62 The one most Christians know about. I was looking forward to kids asking about boiling kids in their mothers milk so I'm disappointed now, lol.
@@thedeadgypsy Covet thy neighbor's wife; covet thy neighbor's ass. (Give this to a bunch of 12-year-old boys and they'll go into gay-panic!) Mix 'em. Covet thy neighbor's wife's ass.
Question : Does 'Remember the Sabbath day to keeping the holy" mean that Churches can't collect money on sundays or clean the building afterwards? Does it mean that they can do broadcasts or podcasts on sunday? (because that clearly means work) Can ppl use public transportation to get to chuch? (Because someone HAS to work so the can go)
We don't have dictionaries or an alphabet for Martian language. Klingon though, is well defined as far as words, characters. They have plenty of words for killing and sacrifice too.
The Bible is not a good book to use to teach someone basic reading from! The King James, as many/most fundamentalists follow, is written in early modern English, and it's difficult for people to understand it unless they've studied that era of the English language. If you're using a different translation, they still use words in nearly all cases that someone is unlikely to be familiar with. I was teaching reading to adults, and I had a student who was taking adult literacy with the primary goal of learning to read the Bible, and secondarily to read to her grandkids, and some other reasons she might want to read. I explicitly told her to NOT start on the King James, for the reasons above, and I did not want her to get frustrated. I taught her to read from the adult literacy books in the class, and later helped her select other books to read that I thought met with her interests and reading level. She still wanted to read the Bible. I knew someone else who went to her church, who knew I was teaching her to read, and was supportive. I suggested to him that maybe she should have a children's Bible - on her reading level, with at least the basics in simplified language. Well, she was delighted a bit after that when her pastor got her one for Christmas. (Method to my madness. By putting the decision on whether or which one to get her onto members of her church, that got ME completely out of the picture on what my opinions were.) The only time that I was asked to give my opinion was when she read Revelation. She said, "I read the whole thing, and Obama is not in there. Why would (televangelist) lie to me?" I said, "Hmmm. What do you think?" "I'll think about it..." I'll let the reader guess what my opinion there is. A really good time for me was she was reading a passage before the church. I helped her rehearse it, pronounce everything properly, and get comfortable. They tell me that she got an APPLAUSE reading that! She asked me to go, but I told her I was doing something that day, and couldn't go. In truth, I wouldn't have been comfortable in the church.
Yeah I was raised Seventh-day Adventist and the Sabbath was definitely on a Saturday for us. Started my dislike for organized religion because I oftentimes couldn't watch Saturday morning cartoons.
Saturday = Saturn's day. He was called Satan, Father of Lies.
I don't know why religion loves to set itself against everything that kids care more about than church, but it never seems to work out well for religion in the long run.
me, my brother and sister outvoted mum and dad over sunday school, we wanted to watch the lucy show (1960's).
Imagine defending this bill by suggesting that it's about the "historical tradition" of law in the US - by demanding that it be put in math classrooms, drama classrooms, chemistry classrooms, woodworking classrooms, etc. If this had so much as a shred to do with history or law, it would be compelled only in history and social studies classes.
Imagine defending this bill as "not establishing a state religion" - by demanding that the state literally puts up a poster that says students shall follow no other gods besides the one referenced in the document.
Thank you for being a voice of sanity in the USA.
No More Friday night highschool football games. The Sabbath begins at sundown friday.
Hi GG,
Glad to see I wasn't the only one that thought TST would have a thing or two to say about this. Maybe if we saw the 7 tenets go up, kids might see what actual morality looks like.
Keep up the great work :)
I would say how I can't believe this is deemed to be legal, but given America's decline towards fascistic theocracy, it's sadly not surprising...
Well if they can have their Ten Commandments ,when there's actually 613 of them, if they can have them in their schools then it means every other religion whether they are abrahamic or not should be able to put their set of rules in the school system.
For some reason they never want to use the list of the 10 commandments that include the commandment to not be to boil a baby goat in its mothers milk
@@littleredpony6868
The baby goats are still in Heavens as Stars.
Capella has also been associated with the nymph who owned Amalthea. The goat's Gorgon-like appearance led Zeus to skin it and wear the hide during the war with the Titans. This aegis helped turn the tide, and thus Amalthea and her kids were placed in the stars as Capella and the Haedi, or Kids.
Amalthea is the goat who nursed baby Abraham in Jewish myth. The same goat who nursed baby Zeus.
Abram's sign is the Ram (Aries constellation). Aries is a Fire/Jupiter sign. Haran's sign is the Lion (Leo). Leo is a Fire/Jupiter sign. Nahor's sign is Sagittarius a Fire/Jupiter sign. The three Fire (SUN) signs are aka Sol Om On (Sun Sun Sun).
@@harveywabbit9541 ophiochus is the 13th sign of the zodiac, kinda messes with horoscopes...
if you want the ten commandments put up in schools, make sure you have
the tenets of the satanic temple can be on display too:
I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with
reason.
II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws
and institutions.
III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully
and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
V
Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take
care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and
resolve any harm that might have been caused.
VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought.
the spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written
or spoken word.
@@HarryNicNicholas
Something like the 13 lunar months that Solomon the Sun takes to build his house. He begins building his Temple to God (Jupiter) in the fourth month of his reign aka April.
Do they hire inspectors to go from classroom to classroom at the start of each day to check for posters?
Is this extra work added on to the principal? A member of the school board?
Separation of church and state? Bah, who needs it. Apparently.
At the moment I'm watching 'Handmaid's Tale'.
And I'm increasingly getting a very wry feeling.
And I'm not even American.
USA seems proud of its Constitution (rightly so, in this Brit's opinion) yet the majority religion struggles to tolerate it. A reminder, if any were needed, that rights & fairness aren't safe from religious meddling.
GG, would love to hear your thoughts on Alvin Toffler's Future Shock. I read that when it came out and the guy was prescient af. I think we're living it.
I read that a long time ago. Don’t remember it much.
The problem that is inherent in a public education system is, what sort of value system does one teach? What is the purpose of education to begin with?
@JennyLovesWillRiker It is hard to see how the Ten Commandments causes teen pregnancies, using bleach internally to treat pathogens, violence against minorities and voluntary slavery.
But what should we teach youth about the Declaration of Independence, with its famous line, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Should we be teaching 5th graders logical thinking skills, so that they can see the logical fallacies in the argument of Locke and Jefferson?
@JennyLovesWillRiker I agree. Some values are not valuable.
If a parent wants to teach their own values, ethics, or morals, great. That's parenting. It's not something that a parent can legitimately pass off to someone else - then not like the outcome. Yes, some wealthy do this with nannies, but someone supervises the nannies as to what they teach.
I think we need a fit check on that t-shirt
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I don't often swear, but that is fuck nuts.
The kinds of Christians who support bills like this have an idol in the form of their bible. They worship the book and cherry-pick the parts that support their views regardless of contradictions or even updates given later in the text. I worry that the current court will rule in favor of the bill because precedent be dammed seems to be the attitude of the conservative members.
Yeah. I'd have a little more respect for them if they'd stop thumping it and read it for once. Oh, wait! It's too holy to actually read. We know that reading the Bible is the #1 cause of atheism in the US and some other Christian-majority countries.
@@rudra62 that’s the funny part I honestly study the Bible far more now as an atheist than I did as a Christian.
@@calebbevan That's true for most atheists in the US.
I've heard that rules have been added to so that the text can be read in all areas of the room, and it must be the specific ten commandments that most people know, not the other one, lol.
Which one? There are three sets of "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS".
@@rudra62 The one most Christians know about. I was looking forward to kids asking about boiling kids in their mothers milk so I'm disappointed now, lol.
@@thedeadgypsy Covet thy neighbor's wife; covet thy neighbor's ass. (Give this to a bunch of 12-year-old boys and they'll go into gay-panic!)
Mix 'em. Covet thy neighbor's wife's ass.
@@rudra62There are 613 commandments in the various christian supstitionist fairy-tale books.
Question : Does 'Remember the Sabbath day to keeping the holy" mean that Churches can't collect money on sundays or clean the building afterwards?
Does it mean that they can do broadcasts or podcasts on sunday? (because that clearly means work)
Can ppl use public transportation to get to chuch? (Because someone HAS to work so the can go)
Isn't Louisiana's tourist industry dependent on people suspending their moral compass at least one day a year?
Good point.
What about the eight " It's Better If You Didn't" commandments from the Church Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster?
I suggest we use martian language for the commandments. Very interesting to learn that. 😂
We don't have dictionaries or an alphabet for Martian language. Klingon though, is well defined as far as words, characters. They have plenty of words for killing and sacrifice too.
The Bible is not a good book to use to teach someone basic reading from! The King James, as many/most fundamentalists follow, is written in early modern English, and it's difficult for people to understand it unless they've studied that era of the English language. If you're using a different translation, they still use words in nearly all cases that someone is unlikely to be familiar with.
I was teaching reading to adults, and I had a student who was taking adult literacy with the primary goal of learning to read the Bible, and secondarily to read to her grandkids, and some other reasons she might want to read. I explicitly told her to NOT start on the King James, for the reasons above, and I did not want her to get frustrated. I taught her to read from the adult literacy books in the class, and later helped her select other books to read that I thought met with her interests and reading level.
She still wanted to read the Bible. I knew someone else who went to her church, who knew I was teaching her to read, and was supportive. I suggested to him that maybe she should have a children's Bible - on her reading level, with at least the basics in simplified language. Well, she was delighted a bit after that when her pastor got her one for Christmas. (Method to my madness. By putting the decision on whether or which one to get her onto members of her church, that got ME completely out of the picture on what my opinions were.)
The only time that I was asked to give my opinion was when she read Revelation. She said, "I read the whole thing, and Obama is not in there. Why would (televangelist) lie to me?" I said, "Hmmm. What do you think?" "I'll think about it..." I'll let the reader guess what my opinion there is.
A really good time for me was she was reading a passage before the church. I helped her rehearse it, pronounce everything properly, and get comfortable. They tell me that she got an APPLAUSE reading that! She asked me to go, but I told her I was doing something that day, and couldn't go. In truth, I wouldn't have been comfortable in the church.
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It doesn't say it has to be in English. 🤷♂️
Put it in a Biblical language like Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic.
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