The Hindu Lit for Life 2019 | Why can't India and Pakistan be friends
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2019
- Former Pakistan diplomat and journalist Husain Haqqani on Monday said the people of India and Pakistan must realise the common threads between them and not hold America responsible for the animosity between the two neighbours in the subcontinent.
Husain Haqqani spoke in length about the India-Pakistan ties at the LFL session.
As an Indian, I would not want to undo the partition. I am happy about it
@msc14111990 no they don't. India is a great nation that way. I am a Bengali Hindu Choudhury with roots in Bangladesh married to a Himachali Brahmin - born in Kolkata, raised in Chennai, stayed in Delhi and living in Madhya Pradesh for many years now. I have travelled far and wide in India and never ever have I felt that I am a foreigner, common language or otherwise. Everywhere we have been welcomed with open arms and made to feel a part of their home .
This is the beauty of our nation.
Your comment is bull.
Madam you doesn't know the pain .We also don't know but we hear stories the horrors of partition
Exactly. Only idiots think otherwise. Hope it could have been done better if it's for idiots at the helm
@Tic true
@@rounakrizvi2915 you muslims were the one who wanted Pakistan not the Hindus you were th one who started riots not hindus so stop saying both suffered both struggled and other Bullshi*
Suhasini attempted to bring Punjab politics into Indo-Pak discussion, Eulogising Sidhu's Pakistan visit, but nicely trolled by Hussain Haqqani by telling Non-Punjabis to indulge in talks and saying categorically that it is an issue between two countries.
She is Pseudo Communist Liberal
Ambassador sounded more Indian than madam Haider !
And her father says he is nationalist Hindu. he cannot even talk to his daughter.
Absolutely, I wish some one raked the issue of genocide that the Sindhis were inflicted upon at the time of the partition, our families live with the horrors to date
Yes, Hussain Haqqani is a proud Indian, whether Indians accept him or not but he is dying to be embraced by them.
@@sohailaraees9940 Pre -1947 all were indians including your grand dad.
@@SadguruPrernaTrust all were ....... What about today....india...running towards hinduata.
Suhasini was so typical. Interjecting with lines like "Both Musharraf and MMS born in each others countries...". As if that is going to bring peace! Musharraf did a Kargil and hates the Country he was born in. Keeps repeating stories of how people in India speak well of Pankistan and vice versa. How childish and immature is tht? Is she still in college romancing a Muslim man one wonders!!
You nicely validated the creation of Pakistan with "Is she still in college romancing a Muslim man one wonders!!"
@@xx-nasser- validated existence of Pakistan? It needs validation?
That's the true example of modern Indian sicularism....sicko
Comment section is more sensible than this lady of Indian origin..
Interestingly, she is daughter of Subramanian Swamy :D :D
Dives Vyas suhasini haider who is a Muslim
@@amarenderreddy5298 She is married to muslim and converted to Islam but pretend to be Hindu by look
the interviewer is a classic example of a intellectual pygmy trying to score points to impress
Suhasini Haider is d perfect example of kids shaming their parents. Feels so sad for Swamy Ji.
Here is a better interview
ua-cam.com/video/1YGyrQoNrqw/v-deo.html
and why is that so.
hmm may be she found love .
This is a common syndrome found among Indians. In order to be accepted as neutral or inclusive, we tend to become bias towards our own in-group. I have not found this syndrome in any other culture.
The most sane voice to come out of Pakistan... More power to Mr. Haqqani..
Hindu population in pakistan declined from 20 percent to 1% , that says a lot,
You should see the sike community that is prospering.. taking key posts in the army. Hindus don't like to share unfortunately and that's the issue.
The answer with due respect lies in the 1971 and separation of Bangla desh. The pre 1971 Pakistan had a 15% population of non Muslims and most of these almost 10 to 12% were there in east Pakistan. They are now Bangadeshi citizens (check the muslim and non muslim population percentage there. ) And present day Pakistan still has 4-5% non muslims.
Regards,
@Crush Communism u need to see Dr.
@Crush Communism more than 20 million Indian working in gulf and ignorant perception is still bashing a faith, this is what RSS make you think!
My late father was an Army officer in Pakistan Army, he had two best Hindu friends Mr. Rajal Das who was a civil Judge and Mr. P Amar Das who was a barrister in Hyderabad Sindh Pakistan in the 1980s. They with their families used to visit us and we used to visit them. We only lost contact after my parent's death. I know most of their relatives moved to India. Uncle Amar's sons still in Hyderabad and are doctors. I must admit that commonly minorities are not treated very well but it is not all bleak, many minority people are living very good lives in Pakistan. There are Army officers, Police officers, doctors, barristers, judges. It is mostly in remote villages where there are Landlords who treat all their haris (people working on their lands) bad, irrespective of their religion. Muslim workers get the same treatment as Hindus. However, Hindus do have a choice to move to India but Muslims keep suffering at the hands of their Muslim 'brethern' landlord. It is a shame that the Government does nothing about it, as these landlords are very powerful in Government.
Majority of Indians are happy partition occurred. In fact regret the total transfer of population did not take place
💯% agreed
This women is full of "I think I know everything" and just dismisses the points the Ambassador makes.
🙏🙏🙏
This is what is Indian Left media #progressive media is and she knows that by the way 😂😂😂😂
H haqqani accepts shared history but suhasini won't accept that ! That is exactly what rss says ! So h haqqani is more Indian than this Hindu journos
Yeah, you have gotten a huge burden of responsibility of distributing nationalism-certificates!
@RKA yes
@RKA Suhasini is daughter of Subramaniam Swamy, suffice to say.
The most convenient thing today is "Blame RSS" ...Nd mind u only bigots like rasve make a terrorist.
Nothing more nothing less.
@Amar Akbar Anthony BFF RSS is a nationalist organisation. You should visit your nearest RSS Shakha.
Look how the lady gets perturbed when he stated "Im the Dim"😄
Man she completely out of mind No nothing about Black history of pakistan.on the other side a well known person from pakistan Showing the Truth to her she still believes india is doing Politics with pakistan for not end with peace ✌️
The interviewer shouod go and talk in kittie parties rather than be part of any serious interview.
Q: Why can't India and Pakistan be friends?
A: If they wanted to be friends, Jinnah wouldn't have asked for Pakistan as separate state.
Not true.
Two separate nations were created for freedom of choice.
Gandhi and Jinnah worked together for it.
Haqqani is going through identity issues for a while... and wanted in his own country and previous pay masters
@@FahadAhmed-qn1pc No they didn't work together you idiot. Gandhi didn't want Pakistan & he kept asking Nehru to resolve issues with Jinnah. But the Pork eating & alcoholic Jinnah was keen to get Pakistan. Nehru didn't try enough to persuade him. If Patel was PM Pak would've never existed.
Churchill created Pak. Jinnah was only a mask. Learn history first. Roosevelt provided the money.
Jinnah was the lawyer of Kalat (now Balochistan) and was really corrupt (he asked the king of Kalat to weigh him in gold). My grandfather was posted in Quetta in the 1940s. My father was born in Quetta.
sometimes you even need break from your own wife does not means you divorce them. Yes country is built, respect the country and move on. live happily ever after. wars cannot change h/x. it can bring back broken arms and legs though.
Why does this Suhasini have a soft corner for Imran Khan ?
Because she think imm the dimm is a peace ambassador of subcontinent. She probably doesn't even know that imran khan is merely a puppet planted by pakistan army.
Btw I am pakistani and I fully accept with hussain haqani
Imm the Dimm is Play boy and He just left Pinkie Peerni.. and Suhasani seems Interested for that Block.
Akhi Bhai bhi Bhai hay
Because she is not feom BJP and RSS..
Suhasini Haider.. daughter of Dr Subramanian Swamy...What a shame! Haqqani was realistic.
Hard to go hugging a porcupine! The nature of the beast does not allow such an intimacy! Mr Haqqani is down to earth in his statements!
Man I was there watching this. He was a professor at my college. Was nice to shake his hand and interact after the event.
The trouble is no Muslim thinks they have had a shared history with Hindus. They all say they came with the Mughals and the other invaders
not true
Well you're wrong then
You haven't met many Muslims then i guess.
ambassador just said that - there are exceptions
@@sab191 well the people.who.hold the power believe that...
Cough....Bukhari, the Shahi imam of Delhi JAMA masjid...see how he programs that his family came from Iran..
And he owns the JAMA masjid...
Or the Tipu imam of Kolkata who wanted red light as Britishers had given him..
And he used to abuse openly
He is wrong in saying that India has not accepted Pakistan , only concern is terrorism
That’s not true.
THIS MAN IS THE EQUIVALENT TO DR JAYASHANKER , IF YOU PUT THESE TWO BRILLIANT MINDS TOGETHER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS AND CHALLENGES THAT STAND BETWEEN YOUR PARTNERSHIP YOU HAVE ACHIEVED THE ULTIMATE , THIS SHOULD BE REGARDED AND ADOPTED OVER ALL YOURE PRIORITIES GOD BLESS INDIA AND PAKISTAN ;
Pakistan needed an enemy after independence... what a declaration!
The anchor is so naive.
Acting naive... With all the lovy dovy comments..
It's a clear hate towards the prime minister and the govt of the day...in a functional democracy like ours there is always space for dissent and constructive criticism but not hate...counter and buttress your arguments with facts and figures rather than plain bald rhetoric ..
Suhasini, you are talking in the backdrop of Pulwama....! come back to your senses!
This took place in Jan 2019, a month before Pulwama
She is katmulli now
Rathindra Bhattacharya ul
Mr Modi did pulwama for his gain.
@@priyamohan3414 Yes, Modi planned Pulwama, Uri, Pathankot, 26/11 and everything which ever took place in India.
Suhasini (didn't she have to renounce her Hindu name and adopt an islamic name when her nikaah was performed?) is married to a 'Kashmiri' Muslim; she is clearly still wearing the love jihad blinkers!
Very informative program. We Pakistani and Indian do need to watch it.
This guy speaks well in all interviews. See his speech in The Aspen
Suhasini Haider is only interested in defending Congress Party and Pakistani's. She is uncomfortable with Ambassador Haqqani's logical reasoning.
Here is a better interview
ua-cam.com/video/1YGyrQoNrqw/v-deo.html
If you breed a snake as a pet, you will be bitten one day; if you breed a scorpion as a pet, you will be stung one day. All friends and allies of Pakistan should remember it. It appears USA has learned its lesson, when will others do so?
Partition of India and Pakistan is basically Partition of Bengal and Punjab..
24:30 Mr Haqquani totally forgets about riots of Bengal...not Punjab alone, Bengal was brutalised in partition too....massive killings happened and not only outsiders like Mr. Haqqani, but rest of India conveniently forgot about it also.
@@1231gsc selective amnesia
Biased interviewer Suhasini.
One state was Swat who didn't merged with any country at time of partition it was merged in 1969 with Pakistan and now called "Switzerland of Asia" my home ❤ 🥰
Well it called the opposite of that
Pakistani people need freedom from Pakistani Wehrmacht.
Gau rakshak 😂
Hussain Haqqani Gaurakshak? That's a new nonsense from Pakistani Guestapo. 😀
With all respect to Mr. Haqqani, I refuse to believe any anecdotes Mz. Haider and the people from audience tell. They seem to cherry pick their own experience or are lieing through their teeth.
Be it about Punjab or Rajasthan. The person actually says that the type of fear in urban places is not present in villages of Rajasthan? (Say) in Hanumangarh or Ganganagar?
This was an utter nonsense conversation, sorry for Mr. Haqqani.
On another note, Mr. Haqqani saying the SI will look him as "just another person from NI" is true, but that doesn't mean the enmosity will not be there. 😂😂😂
I feel pleasantly surprised that people like Hussain Haqqani or Pervez Hoodbhoy arise from Pakistan. We do have some hope then - however small
It’s sad to see the trauma that The British empire wrought on the people of this continent. Over a million people died when the country was divided. Having sown the seeds of division the British and other western powers have ensured that the divided countries remain enemies by interfering and supporting dissent on both sides. People need to wake up and realize that they are one people and that by cooperating with each other they can strengthen themselves economically and securely. Don’t let other people divide you and weaken your position.)
Scrap taken out of India.
At the root of it is radical islam and pakistan's refusal to accept its hindu past
"The Hindu" organisation should change their name to " the group against welfare of Hindu and Bharat" just so that their intention are clear to both the supporters and opponents.
Shut up dogie...
People on both sides are still stuck in mud but not Sushani. This was purpose of this meeting to be soft. She has been a fair and hospitable. Thanks
The Indian intellectual need to .....shed their fake humanism and talk on real terms ...and start facing REALITY....
Salute to Hussain Haqqani as he's a very realistic and truthful man.
Clarity, eloquence and fair criticism... Hats off to your Mr. Haqqani... Why is he not welcome in Pakistan??? Can any pakistani friend please reply here?
Which book is Mr Haqqani talking about? Can anyone tell me?
This man is a great guy
Its lame to blame Pakistan for our lack of vision to solve our problems. The rise of pseudo-secular votebank politics by the Left and Congress has created a virtual Pakistan within our own borders. The Muslims who chose to stay here would not have done so if they did not believe in universal secular framework of governance under common laws. So the sanction to practise Sharia laws and provocative religious mores antithetical to religious harmony has shown the seeds of communal disharmony ... fundamentalists across the border has exploited this division to portray muslims of India as victims to feed and fuel the Kashmir cause. I guess Progressive,Secular,just and united India is the perfect solution to all the issues between Pakistan and us therefore its entirely in hands to find it.
@Bramha's Astra Prima facie the 98% franchise defy common sense since only a fraction of it migrated ,so apparently the vote was non-representative or rigged.Furthermore given the numerous communal riots that ensued after partition would have compelled most of them to flee despite the logistical challenges on the ground. So the creation of a Indian Muslim identity is a betrayal of the secular spirit of them in India which they tried to escape after partition by not going to Pakistan.
@Bramha's Astra thats a bit rich even today most muslims are economically backward but well aware of this term ... so much so that Congress amended the Constitution in 76 and added it expressly to win elections.Also,hard to imagine riots described worse than the Holocaust not sending a chilling effect all over the country even those days.
@Bramha's Astra spot on!
Allama Iqbal, a Sufi, created the first partition of India. So, not all Sufis are saints. Sufism is not practiced in any Islamic mosques. Sufism is export brand of Islam to convert non-muslims.
Vasuki Nagabhushan he was not saint just a confused genius...I love Indian and consider partition a blunder....
Very insightful conversation .
A newspaper or agency should have a neutral reporting. But leftist ideology seem to have clouded the mind of all the editors of Hindu. Various Journalist who have previously worked at Hindu has complained about newspaper dictation to follow the newspapers line of ideology in their reporting and articles. But new news agencies from India like wion in English and lallantop in hindi are refreshing as their reporting is more focused on facts and information and seldom they try to reach biased conclusions and let readers decide for themselves.
As a moderator,Why stop the speaker with your unnecessary points in middle? Why don't you wait until he completes.. It's really irritating
I think the reason for allocating 33% of the British army to Pakistan upon its creation might have been create a reasonable deterrent for India not to attack the much smaller and weaker Pakistan. I think that played out well in favor of Pakistan. The British rulers were very smart.
This interview of such a high quality, it could have been been even better if the host limited her words to asking questions and not intervening in between.
Husain is a highly educated guy, who tells the truth and very honest.
How cone there r no Hindu reletives of Indian Hindus in Na-pakistan..... who wants to go to meet them in Na-pakistan....
Why would anyone want to undo partition. I am more than happy about the people who left india for pakistan in the name of forming a nation based on religion. Clearly they didn't adhered to the idea of secularism and therefore destined to be doomed sooner or later. Its per capita GDP keeps going downward, has already been overtaken several times by military power and now is on the brink of bankruptcy. Its a country on the downhill which will implode anytime and therefore we just need to make sure the harms from across the border doesn't impact us and our country. Any civilization which allows religious doctrines to govern its civil society will not prosper and this separation of church from state was the very foundation on which Western societies have progressed so much in recent past.
Hussain Haqqani is a very knowledgeable and what is more important, a truthful person. Putting him alongside a biased anchor like Suhasini Haider is a waste. Her bias aside, she is not even so well informed. Has she put on weight?
Wonderful discussion Mr. Haqqani is very realistic and knowledgeful person.
Exceedingly informative.
Why is she interrupting the ambassador haqqani .. people are watching this video and event to hear ambassadors viewpoint.
I have seen quite a few interviews by him. He is extremely eloquent and speaks with thorough research.
On a lighter note, I was so surprised that he said instead of a Punjabi, the diplomats from India should be Odia or Bengali who deal with Pakistan Not only did he mention Odisha (I doubt many in Pakistan are aware of it's existence) he mentioned it before Bengalis. 😀
I respect haqqani and agree to most of his views, but won't agree that Indian subcontinent is least integrated. India-Nepal-Bhutan are perfectly integrated with practically open Borders and easy flow of trade and people. With certain restrictions we can consider Bangladesh in this list as well. Only problem is with Pakistan and China. As for India is concerned, till this year Pakistan was declared the most favourable nation by India in terms of Trade. In spite of Bullying attitude of China, India has opened up its market for China. Ironically, the same day when China Blocked move in UN against Indian interest, the very same day Indians purchased Chinese phones en masse (13 th March 2019 was Xiaomi Redmi note 7 Pro sale on Flipkart; and the same day China blocked anti terror move in UN). How much more the world expects from India. Saying India has equal share of the blame for hostile Indo-Pak relations is just an attempt to have a balancing talk; without substance. India is practically blame-free in the Indo-Pak Hostility. And India has done a lot, especially considering it is a developing economy, for the economical integration of South-East Asia.
Most favoured nation is a misnomer. It only means Pak is good enough for trade like many other countries with India, not that its highest priority for India, basically India has nothing much to gain by trade but Pak does from India.
@@koteswar009 Right, Indian farmers went bankrupt when Pakistan banned Indian tomatoes. Indian farmers committed sucides in the aftermath. It appears India benefited more from trade with Pakistan.
Pakistan bankrupted Indians. Pathetic nation India.
Pakistan Zindabad Pak Army Zindabad
Finally liberals are also waking up to the truth. Having nothing to do with the Pakistan is the best for us
Least integrated implied to compare economic activity vs population size ratio relative to other regions and their population
@Football-Pundit yes we both living in stone age 😀
Suhasini, This being a litfest,I expected an assessment of literature and if the writers touched the souls within the given socio-political and cultural context. After all,what exactly literature finally is aimed at. I believe a cultural change and change in perception of human societies ,a sense of living together and an idea of fellow-feeling. Political realities often are too pragmatic,involving too much ego,false pride,winning and losing, businesslike exchange,lies rather than truth, hardening or softening of stance without really changing. This is where literature,I suppose,would have a role and an aim to change from within by appealing to the souls.
Mr Haqqani has always been a clear eyed commentator. I wonder if he can be a mediator along with someone like Dr.Manmohan Singh,then perhaps talks can surge ahead.
Journalist always looking problem through Magnifying glass. Creating additional problem in Society
love Mr Haqqani....unfortunately the only Pakistani I can say that for :(
Suhasini Hyder was either not at all able to ask any intelligent question nor she created any narrative suitable for this event. All that was there being discussed was the same old rhetorical stale talk.
Whats the name of his book?
Makes me think of my Army School era.......of 1985
Partition was a blessing ❤❤
Indians should thank jinnah
Hope come to true when this kind of talks happen on other side also..one side love never work..hope that happens
Please provide subtitles too
Very useful talkshow #GREAT
I have not heard " I am muslim by religion but Indian by culture' from too many pakistani residents. And to have proper relations between the two countries majority of Pakistani ctiizens will have to relize and accept that.
they have been brain washed, the same way that BJP is currently doing in INDIA and misleading innocent hindus
@batshitcrazy007 you can't compare apples with oranges, so either compare pluralistic hinduism with pluralistic Islam and vice versa
@batshitcrazy007 yeah you can laugh, but at the same time read about the history of ISLAM
ONE LINE..................GAZWA E HIND
Bajwa Majwa Dahshat Gard........
Ye Jo dahshat gardi hai....is pichhe wardi hai
Khalsa pahse hi raj kar raha......Manmohan Singh was last PM..........HAHAHAHA
People like Haqqani Sir should be involved in committee to resolve Kashmir issue.
@batshitcrazy007 I didn't say talks, however the framework to resolve needs to be developed..we can't sit on this issue for centuries
Mr. hussain SUHASINI IS NOT A FACE OF TAMIL NADU.
China with no cultural similarities gets along well with Pakistan and likewise Russia with no cultural similarities with India could get along well why can’t India and Pakistan? It looks too childish, to fanatical and above all too foolish that the two countries are not able to see the benefits of co-existing. There is more to it than meets the eye when it comes to growth, development and mutual benefit.
Can anybody tell me the name of suhasini's parents.
Walk the talk with Haqqani will see the light at the end of the tunnel
Unfortunately there r not many pragmatists n realists like Haqqani n this is huge issue in fostering better relations
We should be able to resolve all the problems between our two nations within 10 years. if we have a compliment of Husain Haqqani on our side of border, who has the wisdom and will ...
What a vision!
Hope and wish that becomes true one day.
Instead of justification why don't they accept most of us justify terrorism 🤭🤭🤭🤦♂️🤦♂️
nice talk along with the usual the hindu bias and blind eye to jihad phenomenon.
When a Pakistani sounds more sensible than an Indian, ooops, it’s “THE HINDU”..expected
It took 70 years to dismantle USSR. Pakistan already lost more than 50% of the country, and the country which should rightfully be called Pakistan decided to reject all things Pakistani.
Bangladesh had nothing in common with Pakistani people. Bangladesh had no geography link with Pakistan.
Bangladesh and Pakistan are totally different ideological nation. So please stop spreading misinformation and lies.
Pakistan will exist till the end of times. Pakistan and Bangladesh were never meant to be one country.
India tried dividing western Pakistan for 70 years and have failed all the time. Now Pakistan and China will spread freedom movements across India.
Pakistan Zindabad Pak Army Zindabad
At least, such talks should continue. Thanks to Suhashini for keeping the discussion very entertaining!
India and Pakistan should have respect for each other.
Wish the anchor had merely and impartially facilitated the speaker instead of giving her own biased interpretation of things. No one is interested in her views. But this is the best what 'THE HINDU' has got on its staff. THE HINDU does not deserve any space in the field called THINK TANKS which it is trying by holding such events. It is too shallow and biased. 2 out of 10 for this one
India is no more gullible ...
Suhasini doen't want to listen the reality... come one yun hi nahi Tukde Tukde gang kehete hain aap ko log :)
To appreciate mr haqani
One should watch couple of programmes of Tarik e watan fitai MUN
Also, I wonder why Suhasini got off Air and joined Hindu where she doesnt do a job in front of camera. is it coz her husbands family is more orthodox and muslim women arent allowed or encouraged this? Even here, she seems most uncomfortable constantly fiddling with he saree.
Hussain Haquanni is a realist . India & Pakistan have gone parallel lines India becoming a Global player while Pakistan dependent ofChina . The only common emotion of Haterate of each other because Pakistan has been an irritant for India so how can they be friends. For the last 70 years India evolved into a Soft Power so was dictated by the Soviet Union in 1965, the USA in 1971 & Kargil . Since then India has moved to become less dependent to hear these Major Power to broker mediation. India is less forgiving now than in the past since nothing was achieved in the past.Dilpomacy is left hand with a velvet and a strong stick on the right hand. Pakistan today is at its Weakest stage because of the use of Lakshar since 1948 and the Civilised World asking for its elimination by the Pakistan Army. Excellent Presentation by Hussain Haqquni. Nathan Sekhar Sydney Australia.
The debate should be "Why India is friends with Muslim nations like IRAN, AFGHANISTAN and not PAKISTAN?"!
What a program! keep it up.
Excellent discourse.....The elephant in the room which is the global conflict between west and east, the players today are USA, nato et al against China, Russia and let me include India also for good reason. In the Cold War era it was the USA against the USSR which was the cause of the Afghanistan war and creation of the mujahideen by the CIA and ISI. Previously it was the British which set up the Gilgit scouts and leased a region in Gilgit Baltistan to have a buffer against Russia. Incidentally it was major brown of the Gilgit scouts who should be forever remembered as the instigator of the initial Pakistan India armed conflict. Why did he do what he did....maybe the award he received back in England after his Pakistan soujourn will explain.
Could she not edited the first introduction part telling Everyone her on UA-cam to put mobile phone on mute while almost everyone is watching this on mobile phone
Excellent discussion
Haqqani Saheb.. .. You appears to be genuinely interested in positive relationship. But how the Pakistan Army will take this? . Can India trust Pakistan ?
How will RSS stooges take this. Stop acting so righteous
The most perplex thing for me is Suhasini Haidar - the daughter of Subramaniam Swamy. The irony!