Thank you so much for your very well done instructional video concerning the M40A1 Gas mask, I just purchased an M40A1 from Fort Bragg Surplus, total price $132.29. I just retired from FDNY-EMS, I had to turn in my issued gas mask, the MSA Millennium CBRN. After viewing your video I was able to apply the second skin and apply the eye outserts. You did in one video what took the FDNY one day to do. I feel confident with the M40A1 Gas Mask thanks to you, Thank you David Anthony Romero
As a former federal hazmat contractor for many years, I can assure you that military CBRN field gear is NOT made to save your life.. It's made to keep you alive just long enough for you to complete your mission. If you want to survive and be protected, you have to have big $$$$ and you still have to have enough knowledge of the PEL (Permissible Exposure Limit) of your equipment. Even a fully encapsulated LvL A with SCBA, will not last forever. The suit will break down at the seams within hours and you have to get out of the hot zone to change air tanks every 30 to 45min and I promise you that you WILL take your mask off when you run out of air.. Also there are different cartridges for respirators. Organic vapor, chemical vapor, ect... the cbrn filters are only rated for certain threats and fail at different times based on what threat you encounter and at what level and time. I mentioned a SCBA also supplied air (a hose you drag on the ground that leads back out of the hot zone) only because that is the only way to protect yourself when you don't have the knowledge, Intel, or equipment to detect, what is in the environment. A post disaster can leak non-weaponized chemicals from industrial and commercial facilities. Plants, rail lines, tank farms, all have things that can kill you in an instant if you breath them in. You won't even know it because you will be unconscious by the time you do. It happens that quick. Chlorine for example. Bottom line is you need to know what you are getting into before you think that buying a mask is going to save you from everything. It wont, and it's a false sense of security for many.
Agreed. This isn’t life saving equipment it’s life sustaining. As you said it’s used to keep you alive long enough to complete your mission objective and or get out of the contaminated zone. Many people get that wrong. Glad to see someone who knows their stuff!
The US surplus laws forbids anyone outside the states owning stuff like this so in places like the UK it is extremely hard to get these, I use alternatives like the S10 and Soviet PRWU as it was used with rocket refuelling crews, and filters are cheap and common
@@ForbiddTV please, you didn't buy all those you have for the $100+ that ppl on eBay are asking for them. You said in your video that you have done quote "hundreds" of these masks.. my guess is you were selling surplus gear at stupid markups. $10 to $25 is what these go for and you dam well know it. You can get them even cheaper by the pallet.
Thank you for that info on the second skin. Really helped a lot. I wish you would have gone into a bit of detail about how to carry the mask inside the bag. There is a very specific way to insert it into the carry bag.
Correct, and there are I think three ways to wear the bag on your person as well. The straps for the bag have always been confusing to me. The instruction manual for the M-40 has the details about inserting into the bag and different methods of wearing the bag.
@@ForbiddTV Hi Craig! Best I can figure (I have the full manual as well as the short laminated one), is the mask goes in the carrier chin first, with the front facing towards the outside of the carrier...ie facing the outside if you were wearing the carrier. There is a video on UA-cam where a guy just buckled two of the carrying straps to holes in his pistol belt. That would probably be the way i would wear it, since I would most likely be wearing the pistol belt with canteens and holster, etc., in an emergency. I have two of the collapsible 2-quart canteens with the valve in them. BTW...if someone doesn't have the plastic covers for the lenses, it would be a good idea to get them. They prevent the inner lenses from getting scratched and cracked. You can find them on E-Bay, or a place I like called Venture Surplus for $12.99. One thing I'm looking into, is attaching a battery-operated air pump with the hoses intended for the armored crew M40. As you no doubt know, some filters/masks are tough on old folks to breathe through. E-bay has a small pump for $53.56 with 40MM connections. Think I will order it: www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Electric-Supplied-Air-Pum-Fed-Face-Gas-Mask-Respirator-System-Blower/273837254259?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
@@Deputy276 The idea of strapping it to your body is so you can take off your LBE and still have the mask on your person. If you need the mask, you're probably gonna need it RIGHT NOW.
I considered doing that but it's so hard to get your hands in there to get it seated properly that it would make the video unreasonably long and you wouldn't be able to see anything on camera either.
The M40 respirator has a second skin of burtyl rubber that goes over the front. This was because the mask is made out silicone, which is extremely vulnerable to blister agents, such as mustard gas. If silicon makes contact with any type of blister agent, it causers the rubber deteriorate at an alarming rate. This was probably one of the reasons why they replace M40 in favour of the newer respirator mask series M50. Assume helpful Link info canister filter C2A1 www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=39586#/topics/39586?page=1
Sure, please give me credit back to my channel in the description box of the video you use the material in and send me the information when the video is done so I can see it.
Hello from 2020 we have a global pandemic on are hands so this info was much help to me because I just got a M40 and had no clue how to attach the second skin now I really want that armored vehicle crewman hose extension and filter holder.
You can’t wear contact lenses tho as the air inside the mask is dry. You run the risk of eye damage from you contact lenses and your eyes drying out from the lack of moisture in the air breathed in from the filter. The manual also states that you shouldn’t wear contact lenses as well (this applies with all full face respirators/gas masks).
If you are talking about the detector/identifier kit shown at 20:20 I have them for $60 (2020 dates). If you are speaking of the M100 sorbent decontamination kit at 21:38 I have them at $90.
Ladies and gentlemen... this is a rare view of one of those people that buy up all the surplus stuff for pennies and sells them to us for $150+ on ebay. The same one that acts offended when you offer $50 because you know they got it for $20.
@@ForbiddTV I did look, I was looking for medium size adult M40 gas mask with sealed filter, second skin, and any accessories would be nice. I would pay $200 at most, but I get paid next Thursday : /
@@ForbiddTV Dam, well ill keep an eye on your store since I want one bad. Not worried about corona though lol its not as bad as people think, I'm just starting a collection. I will admit your store has the best prices ive ever seen, everywhere else they are $300 for only the mask. No accessories, no second skin, JUST the mask.
I have sold hundreds of gas masks and not a single one will ever be used in this ignorant panic buying for the Coronavirus. You would be better waiting until all this scare mongering is over, I'll be able to start getting masks a few month after they stop.
No one can accurately answer that. Whereas it might last 24 hours in a 'normal' situation, it might plug up within minutes in the midst of a volcanic eruption for instance.
No latex. The main mask is a silicon based rubber which was found to be susceptible to corrosion to certain blister agents so they developed the outer second skin made of a butyl rubber compound.
just from what i've noticed on the mask market, for buying surplus it's best to wait until it's well out of service and then some, as the only way you'd be buying surplus ones is if the surplus warehouses that extra old stock is kept in needs to be cleaned out for room for the next mask.
I would add that for decon you should use only cold water and any avoid all moisturizers. Stuff like conditioners can bind the radioactive material to proteins in your skin and hair. And hot water will open pores and allow material in. Good practice if you had exposed bare skin is to first decon with cold water twice for 20 min each and then a 30 min decon of 10 min cold 15 min hot and 5 min cold. Drying in between each. If that is not an option then just cold water and lots of it. Wash head to toe, try to keep the contaminated water off the body as best you can. If done properly you should be able to glow in the dark. 😆
I don't have any extras, but others might. A missing cover doesn't impede the usefulness of the mask as long as you don't get the chin area caught in something as you use it.
Thank you so much for your very well done instructional video concerning the M40A1 Gas mask, I just purchased an M40A1 from Fort Bragg Surplus, total price $132.29. I just retired from FDNY-EMS, I had to turn in my issued gas mask, the MSA Millennium CBRN. After viewing your video I was able to apply the second skin and apply the eye outserts. You did in one video what took the FDNY one day to do. I feel confident with the M40A1 Gas Mask thanks to you, Thank you
David Anthony Romero
As a former federal hazmat contractor for many years, I can assure you that military CBRN field gear is NOT made to save your life.. It's made to keep you alive just long enough for you to complete your mission.
If you want to survive and be protected, you have to have big $$$$ and you still have to have enough knowledge of the PEL (Permissible Exposure Limit) of your equipment. Even a fully encapsulated LvL A with SCBA, will not last forever. The suit will break down at the seams within hours and you have to get out of the hot zone to change air tanks every 30 to 45min and I promise you that you WILL take your mask off when you run out of air.. Also there are different cartridges for respirators. Organic vapor, chemical vapor, ect... the cbrn filters are only rated for certain threats and fail at different times based on what threat you encounter and at what level and time. I mentioned a SCBA also supplied air (a hose you drag on the ground that leads back out of the hot zone) only because that is the only way to protect yourself when you don't have the knowledge, Intel, or equipment to detect, what is in the environment. A post disaster can leak non-weaponized chemicals from industrial and commercial facilities. Plants, rail lines, tank farms, all have things that can kill you in an instant if you breath them in. You won't even know it because you will be unconscious by the time you do. It happens that quick. Chlorine for example.
Bottom line is you need to know what you are getting into before you think that buying a mask is going to save you from everything. It wont, and it's a false sense of security for many.
Agreed. This isn’t life saving equipment it’s life sustaining. As you said it’s used to keep you alive long enough to complete your mission objective and or get out of the contaminated zone. Many people get that wrong. Glad to see someone who knows their stuff!
Even tho i don't watch your Channel that much i Love and Respect your Content!! Keep up the Great work man!
Yeah, I got a strange mix of topics...
But hes dumb vexause he says that filters dont expire
Greg Nolen They don't expire. Get a clue.
The US surplus laws forbids anyone outside the states owning stuff like this so in places like the UK it is extremely hard to get these, I use alternatives like the S10 and Soviet PRWU as it was used with rocket refuelling crews, and filters are cheap and common
I love this mask. Used it in the Marines and just found one for 9.99. Inspection and cleaning time.
If it's not defective, that is a steal at that price today.
@@ForbiddTV please, you didn't buy all those you have for the $100+ that ppl on eBay are asking for them. You said in your video that you have done quote "hundreds" of these masks.. my guess is you were selling surplus gear at stupid markups. $10 to $25 is what these go for and you dam well know it. You can get them even cheaper by the pallet.
@@ahole5407 where have you seen one that cheap?
Excellent video. Thanks for putting this together for us!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for that info on the second skin. Really helped a lot. I wish you would have gone into a bit of detail about how to carry the mask inside the bag. There is a very specific way to insert it into the carry bag.
Correct, and there are I think three ways to wear the bag on your person as well. The straps for the bag have always been confusing to me. The instruction manual for the M-40 has the details about inserting into the bag and different methods of wearing the bag.
@@ForbiddTV Hi Craig! Best I can figure (I have the full manual as well as the short laminated one), is the mask goes in the carrier chin first, with the front facing towards the outside of the carrier...ie facing the outside if you were wearing the carrier. There is a video on UA-cam where a guy just buckled two of the carrying straps to holes in his pistol belt. That would probably be the way i would wear it, since I would most likely be wearing the pistol belt with canteens and holster, etc., in an emergency. I have two of the collapsible 2-quart canteens with the valve in them. BTW...if someone doesn't have the plastic covers for the lenses, it would be a good idea to get them. They prevent the inner lenses from getting scratched and cracked. You can find them on E-Bay, or a place I like called Venture Surplus for $12.99.
One thing I'm looking into, is attaching a battery-operated air pump with the hoses intended for the armored crew M40. As you no doubt know, some filters/masks are tough on old folks to breathe through. E-bay has a small pump for $53.56 with 40MM connections. Think I will order it:
www.ebay.com/itm/Portable-Electric-Supplied-Air-Pum-Fed-Face-Gas-Mask-Respirator-System-Blower/273837254259?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
@@Deputy276 The idea of strapping it to your body is so you can take off your LBE and still have the mask on your person. If you need the mask, you're probably gonna need it RIGHT NOW.
Great video can you do another showing how to swap the intake and the voice emitter for left hand shooting
I considered doing that but it's so hard to get your hands in there to get it seated properly that it would make the video unreasonably long and you wouldn't be able to see anything on camera either.
The M40 respirator has a second skin of burtyl rubber that goes over the front. This was because the mask is made out silicone, which is extremely vulnerable to blister agents, such as mustard gas. If silicon makes contact with any type of blister agent, it causers the rubber deteriorate at an alarming rate. This was probably one of the reasons why they replace M40 in favour of the newer respirator mask series M50.
Assume helpful Link info canister filter C2A1 www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=39586#/topics/39586?page=1
Actually the M45 already had the changes made.
Hello friend, can you let me use some parts of your video? I also have an M40 but it is missing parts and I wanted to make an informative video too.
Sure, please give me credit back to my channel in the description box of the video you use the material in and send me the information when the video is done so I can see it.
Hello from 2020 we have a global pandemic on are hands so this info was much help to me because I just got a M40 and had no clue how to attach the second skin now I really want that armored vehicle crewman hose extension and filter holder.
You probably don't have an armoured vehicle, and gas masks can't positively stop a virus.
Could you possibly make a video on how to install the prescription inserts?
No. Although I have some eyeglass inserts, it takes an optometrist to make special lenses for the frames. Contact lenses are your best bet.
You can’t wear contact lenses tho as the air inside the mask is dry. You run the risk of eye damage from you contact lenses and your eyes drying out from the lack of moisture in the air breathed in from the filter. The manual also states that you shouldn’t wear contact lenses as well (this applies with all full face respirators/gas masks).
Do you wear the second skin on the mask along with a quick doff hood with the second skin sown on the hood? So basically two second skins?
Use one or the other, or none at all.
I sure am glad to see that you do a lot of prepping before you film .It gets annoying at times FYI
Where can I get the decontamination kit?
If you are talking about the detector/identifier kit shown at 20:20 I have them for $60 (2020 dates). If you are speaking of the M100 sorbent decontamination kit at 21:38 I have them at $90.
@@ForbiddTV...I'm interested in the m100 kit, I couldn't find it on your site.
Ladies and gentlemen... this is a rare view of one of those people that buy up all the surplus stuff for pennies and sells them to us for $150+ on ebay. The same one that acts offended when you offer $50 because you know they got it for $20.
How much did you pay for it?
Medium is the most average size right?
For adults, perhaps.
Dude can I please have one? I cant find them anywhere esspecially for cheap.
Dude, you didn't look. I am out of stock only on the large size. I have sold hundreds, and still have hundreds of gas masks.
@@ForbiddTV I did look, I was looking for medium size adult M40 gas mask with sealed filter, second skin, and any accessories would be nice. I would pay $200 at most, but I get paid next Thursday : /
I have those, although the sealed filters will be gone by morning.
@@ForbiddTV Dam, well ill keep an eye on your store since I want one bad. Not worried about corona though lol its not as bad as people think, I'm just starting a collection. I will admit your store has the best prices ive ever seen, everywhere else they are $300 for only the mask. No accessories, no second skin, JUST the mask.
I have sold hundreds of gas masks and not a single one will ever be used in this ignorant panic buying for the Coronavirus. You would be better waiting until all this scare mongering is over, I'll be able to start getting masks a few month after they stop.
How long does the filter last
No one can accurately answer that. Whereas it might last 24 hours in a 'normal' situation, it might plug up within minutes in the midst of a volcanic eruption for instance.
more like 8-10 hours in normal conditions
They have been used much longer in training.
One filter will last the rest of your life, if ya know what I mean.....
Is it latex
No latex. The main mask is a silicon based rubber which was found to be susceptible to corrosion to certain blister agents so they developed the outer second skin made of a butyl rubber compound.
just from what i've noticed on the mask market, for buying surplus it's best to wait until it's well out of service and then some, as the only way you'd be buying surplus ones is if the surplus warehouses that extra old stock is kept in needs to be cleaned out for room for the next mask.
The M40 series mask is that model. All the military services seemed to have moved on to the M50.
In a nuclear fallout situation if I get fallout on me do I need to use the decamination set to decontaminate myself?
That's for chemical contamination. For nuclear fallout you simply wash off with soap/water.
@@ForbiddTV thanks
I would add that for decon you should use only cold water and any avoid all moisturizers. Stuff like conditioners can bind the radioactive material to proteins in your skin and hair. And hot water will open pores and allow material in. Good practice if you had exposed bare skin is to first decon with cold water twice for 20 min each and then a 30 min decon of 10 min cold 15 min hot and 5 min cold. Drying in between each. If that is not an option then just cold water and lots of it. Wash head to toe, try to keep the contaminated water off the body as best you can.
If done properly you should be able to glow in the dark. 😆
I have an m40 and the middle bottom tube thing shows this white tab, any way I can get a cover for that
I don't have any extras, but others might. A missing cover doesn't impede the usefulness of the mask as long as you don't get the chin area caught in something as you use it.
@@ForbiddTV i found one and the proper straps