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3 Misconceptions about FFXIV
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2020
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This game has something for everyone. It also has a surprisingly massive female player base which is refreshing in video games
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@@Eraktab I'm a relatively new player that started playing for the catgirls and ended up staying for the story. Coincidentally the first FC I joined, though relatively small, consists of mostly other women which is really nice. We have a lot of wholesome fun doing savages and shitposting cute animal memes on our discord. OUR ESTROGEN POWERS CANNOT BE CONTAINED! UWU
@@HizzerPeews that's amazing! Even in end game competitive content it's hard to find statics that don't have at least one girl. My current parse mentor is female and one of the best WHM in the world Hahaha.
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Ofc the nr.1 reason to play.
I started playing ffxiv this year, and I've played a lot of mmorpg, but none compare to ffxiv, I wish more people could test the game :(
@Santi R Idk bro, for me no other mmorpg compare to FFXIV.
@Santi R I'd LOVE to see how much time it'd take you to clear the last raid tier in pugs ! Or even just the extremes that came with Shadowbringers :)
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Can confirm, you can 100% create a manly grimdark fellow, glam him up that way and then... queue in an 8 man duty with 7 catgirls with rainbow deluxe pink highlighted hair. Half of them are in bikinis and the other half are some mix between the frog costume, pig costume, and one's got the snowman head.
Yeah, I agree. That third point is actually not a misconception. Sure, you can design your badass western-looking tank glamor. But the amount of crazy looking people around you can be off-putting.
@@ncBadrock I'm not sure how someone's dressing choice in a fictional environment can be 'off-putting'. I personally find it great if they enjoy dressing oddly, it's a good laugh. And if you find it fun to dress appropriately for the setting then props to you?
at least it adds diversity to the game and you arent just seeing clones with different colot palettes... yeah it can be weird or funny, but it wont affect your story or gameplay... I mean, something similar already happens in real life so...
@@Sacrengard It will affect the tone of your story if you're new or doing new story content
@@kaihedgie1747 judgemental much? judging people by its cover? It may affect your experience depending on what kind of person you are... its an mmo, there are other people and you cant control how people act.
Here before Asmongold's chat forces him to watch this
I was part of an FC where the leader kept talking about how you have to like the story in order to enjoy the game and I saw that turn quite a few people from playing the game. These were sprouts that she was saying this to. I'm happy you made this video and I hope more people see it.
"It has a little something for everyone"
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FF14 is the only mmorpg I've ever played. Started in 2.4 and was very stop and start. But Heavensward was the point where I truly became invested. That was the point where I realised how good this game was.
And regardless of how many times I've been to Ishgard, I always feel cold when I visit.
I started FF XIV in April, when the first lockdown hit and my pen & paper group wasn't able to meet any more. Back then the free triall was only to lvl 30. And after that I was kind of sold, but not fully, because you have so few skills at the beginning. I still bought the game and am playing since then.
With the current trial going till lvl 60, there's really nothing to loose and people should just try it. At that point the story and the gameplay are at its best. And if you start now, the amount of content is just overwhelming at lvl 80.
That's exactly my story ! Started playing during the first March/April lockdown, and i'm now nearing the 700h mark !!
Been having a blast with the Eden Savage raids, and I've started progging my first Ultimate raid. I'd never thought I'd reach endgame in an MMO ever, but FFXIV just HITS different
I never understood why cat and bunny people bothered anyone ? Especially when WoW has Vulpera now....
The only "problem" (and it's not even a real problem) I have with the Viera is their starting lingerie outfit. To me that's almost too much like TERA's female races/aesthetic out of the gate. I never felt like FFXIV made races hypersexualized until them - but if players wanted to glamour that way then all the power to them and that's fine.
Also if any one complains about lala's but are fine with gnomes in warcraft, then get stuffed lol.
The reason the Vieras wear what they do as beginning outfits is because they are wearing the same outfit, and are the same race as Fran from FFXII. So it’s still a somewhat sexual outfit but at least there is a reason behind it.
Started playing this game and love it but I would love for one thing to be added: allow old dungeons to scale up and be available in a new game plus or mythic plus setup. They are so amazing and I’d love to play them again at full strength with my friends
I remember at first I thought it was slow and kind of repetitive gameplay wise and not the story was good but not too compelling
Then I hit lv60 on ninja and heavensward and now I’m going crazy managing my buttons and finishing heavensward filled me with so much emotions I cried extremely hard in tears of happiness in playing such an amazing game
It’s a slow game to get into yes, but please give it a chance. This game has something for everyone
My second time starting FFXIV, or rather, my true first time playing, all I did was pick the ‘mage with the book.’ Now I’m a lv 66 Summoner who finally enjoys doing somewhat moderate amounts of DPS. Loving Stormblood and all previous main stories, though. That’s what keeps me going.
I want to preface this and say I do love FFXIV and how it's essentially a celebration of Final Fantasy as a whole. That's probably my favorite thing about the game.
Speaking to the video, specifically the first point, I do think that the lvl 1 to 60ish experience is rather lackluster from a gameplay perspective, at least for an mmo veteran. This is especially true if you play a healer. Yes, it's not the end game, so I don't expect it to be perfect. However, I do think if Square Enix wants to have better odds at reeling in and keeping new players subscribed, they could stand to focus on the early game experience and make it more engaging.
Something that has bothered me more recently however is the way healers are treated in this game (no, I'm not talking about healers having to dps). I think the gradual shift of giving healers more healing abilities and paring down dps abilities has been a problem. There was a lot of talk pre-Shadowbringers from Yoshi P about healers having more of a focus on healing. Well, the toolkit went that way, but fight design didn't really accomodate that.
This is especially an issue if you're someone like me who is skilled at the game and has done extreme/savage content before, but does not raid anymore (my schedule is just too erratic for it nowadays). It has made normal content especially boring to run except for day 1 of content release. And yes, I'm not expecting normal mode content to be thrilling all the time. But at least a dps has the fun of actually playing and mastering their job, whereas healers (and likely tanks to a lesser degree) have over time become more homogenized and as a result less fun and engaging to play. As it stands, I go into content HOPING that people haven't done it before and/or I'm paired up with not so competent players just to make things more hectic and strenuous lol
Ultimately, I think the goal should be that every job/role, at every class level and at every instance difficulty should be fun, engaging, and rewarding to play. I've kind of shelved healers unless playing with friends and instead have been focusing on dps and having a MUCH better time. Going beyond the healer role in general, I wasn't thrilled about the Astro changes since Shadowbringers, and the Sleeve Draw change was the final nail for me. I've never been a huge SCH fan, but I liked how it used to have a bunch of dots. WHM, while Aflatus Misery is cool and all, I really just wish we had aoe Aero back lol
I'm hoping the next expansion changes things for me healer-wise, but I'm not holding my breath. While no doubt healers are fun to play in savage and ultimate content, and I don't think healers should absolutely have to play that content to be engaged.
gotta love that legend of mana music in the background :)
Okay so I’ve been playing MMO’s since I was 8 years old now I’m 23. I’ve never been into anime, or I’ve played mmorpg for it’s story. Yet I play this game for the combat system and for the end-game progression. I’ve been hooked for almost a year now on ffxiv (with the casual breaks) but I’d definitely recommend this.
came back after a 2 month break , doing some puppets bunker and leveling other jobs ( loved the ending to the Shadowbringer Main Quest )
I’ve been playing FF14 for 10 years. Was there for the alpha and I’ve never regretted it. The story is wonderful and beautiful and painful and horrible all at once and it is the game’s best feature in my opinion. The combat is unique and with 18 different jobs it’s impossible not to find something you like. The challenge is there for those looking for it. Don’t underestimate the “cute” looking game. Sometimes I’m too busy to play any game, but this one is the one I will always go back to. Here’s to a good few years more. Thank you SquareEnix. And thank you Desperius for sharing the love. Stay safe. ❤️
@rick mel - It has happy moments too Rick. LoL Honest it does! 😭
Love these videos ! Clearly shows all the key points I always tell my friends but maybe they’ll finally listen to someone else other then myself lol
I hope, they will !
I highly recommend newcomers to play four(or three) different classes. Tank, close range dps, long range dps(either physical or magical) and healer.
Edit: or you can go for two close range dps or two ranged, or just one dps class. I won't judge.
". . . Most noble . . . or most slutty" I'm dead now (lol).
Things I really like is you can play any race as any class and don't have to switch characters, you are the protagonist of the story and not just the errand runner nobody really aknowledges, the classes really grow the higher your level is.
I started the free trail 2 weeks ago and having a great time.
Checking 3 misconceptions. Kupo!
My brother who is a hardcore final fantasy fan and a weeb hates ff14 and quit the game on day 1. He says that having to play so many jobs from level 1 is a waste of time. He started playing the game blind without any prior research. On the other hand Im not a weeb, I have less time to play than my brother and I still love the game after 1,600 hrs playing it. Go figure
Yeah its more that you like the game or not. Maybe he is not interested in its MMO aspect
nobody ask you play all job day 1
everyone has their main and thats he should stick to
@@kumomeme7852 his character was level 15 conjurer. He wanted to try out other jobs and discovered that he had to start from level 1 on other jobs no matter what your main character’s level is. Capisce?
6000+ Hours in still have tons of stuff to do, and i dont even afk slack :O
played the game for the story stayed for the community, you guys are all awesome
Easy to see why this is the new standard in MMORPG
Desperius dared us to do it, so I now I'm a content creator! Thanks for always lifting this community up
I am glad to hear that and welcome 😊
I played ESO for 5 years as a hardcore raider that would compete for world-firsts every update. I love the game but every patch has major bugs and i just couldnt put up with it anymore after their developers would not even acknowledge our forum posts about their broken game, so i quit cold turkey. I decided to try WoW again after a 12 year break and got Cutting Edge within 3 months. Then i decided to try out ffxiv and i am so glad i did. You are right on point about the game being super slow at first, at least it was pretty boring combat as a summoner until lvl80 really, but it was sooo refreshing to finally play an mmorpg that had such an amazing main story that i was so immersed into every word from every character. Looking back at previous games ive played, i cant believe i had been okay with doing so many quests that were so pointless and dull and disconnected from the point of the game that i had eventually just been spamming through them as fast as possible and skipping half the dialogs because how irrelevant they were. There is a lot of depth and complexity in ffxiv, and i am really glad i tried it, and even more glad that i finished all of the main story quests, because it has been far too long since i have done a quest that actually produced an emotional response
Me starting watching ffxiv videos again after feeling burnt out from three weeks of shadowlands.
you'd think that enix would implement character hairstyles and armors from previous titles, and not just clouds hair the various noctis themed hairstyles. but instead they still seem to think mullets are trendy
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Where is the cutscene at 5:40 to 5:58 from? I really like how you're actually somehow interacting with your fellow raid members here (assuming it's a raid) but I haven't seen it anywhere.
I think that’s from the heavensward benchmark
I gave this game the old college try and I wasn't disappointed....after level 50
dat saucy noodle meme
Theres no reason to not try ffxiv with the free trial being extended to Heavensward now
After playing a lot of mmos I still think that GW2 has the best combat system at max level when it comes to group content, as it's very fast paced and does not have gcds.
Still like FFXIV, enjoy combat more compared to other more traditional mmo games, but would love to see your opinion on combat system in GW2 if you'd ever be interested!
For people who say that FFXIV is slow, I remember the days in WoW waiting for my rage to build to hit heroic strick with one OGCD... Yeah... all games are slow at the beginning/low level.
Started a paladin on WoW yesterday. Skills 6 or 12 seconds apart, auto attacks otherwise. I literally said to my friend on voice "And people bitch about low level FF14? I'm level 10/50 and I basically just auto attack." and we had a good laugh.
@rick mel It's obviously only until you unlock a spec and not representative of the games speed in any way but I mostly point it out as an example of how the WoW community calls FF14 slow but has its own levelling issues with certain classes as well. I still enjoyed myself but yeah definitely a strange moment for me.
@rick mel That's an opinion and not a fact. I think only ARC and healing jobs suffer from this in FF14 heavily and have levelled every job to 80 to experience it all myself. Those were the only ones that caused me suffering and again most that suffering is mitigated if you pick them as a job after already having a full level 80. Not only due to armoury and other exp bonuses but full game knowledge and knowing how to level efficiently literally removing early game slow down. Not to mention to need to do the entire MSQ. It's literally a misconception as stated in this video that it is 'slow'. In WoW I find the only content exists late game therefore they literally rush you towards it. FF14 doesn't do that. It's a design difference.
been playing this game since September. fan of final fantasy, favorite game of all time being ff12. Only other mmo ive played is tera which had amazing combat and pvp.
Just started end game raiding about to get my first crystarium weapon upgrade. I have only 2 problems with this game:
1. Some MSQs made me feel like gauging my eyes out. (The glorified errant boy ones)
2. Since Tera was the only mmo ive played, I hate how you have to completely rely on tanks and healers to survive as a dps.
Also side note: Dragoon is my main, why the fuck dont I have s built in my jumps.
yeah sadly the start of the game is not fun. Every class plays so slooooooooow and I found the story VERY boring up until ~lvl.40. Also the ARR voice acting is horrendous :D. I started the game 3 times and gave up before lvl. 20 because it was so boring. But now I just finished Heavensward and I can finally see why people love this game.
was that symphonia music playing at the end there? it sounded like it!
Legend of Mana 😊👍
Desperius FFXIV aaaaaaaahh ok! Neat!
I think they may have the same composer, so that might be why you thought it was Symphonia
I guess I'm lucky I already made a successful transition to FFXIV and didn't another year in an MMO I didn't really enjoy anymore...
"slow combatsystem": yeah, I heard that one before. The only thing I can say is, in WoW and GW2 I can type in chat at my hearts content during every encounter (excluding raids of course with all the coordination with your team ontop of the fighting). In FFXIV I can't even read chat or even notice it while I'm doing some quests in den open world! I can barely type a "hello" in chat while fighting in dungeons, and how often have I overlooked FC chat because I was fighting a random mob in Dravania or somesuch? In short, fighting system in FFXIV is very demanding of your attention, even in the lower 50 levels.
"all about story" - No complaints there but we already know of players who don't really care about it and still have a blast playing the game because of other content. For me, it's the story and the fact that your character actually grows and develops. Something I missed in WoW ever since the talent system there got more or less frozen in place with borrowed power every next expansion to force you to grind through it. Here, I learn a new skill every couple levels and it sometimes changes my rotation significantly. Whoever with SE is responsible for that, I don't doubt a lot of work went into it - and you notice. Not to mention those incredible visuals...
"the JRPG Thing". Yeah, I'm not an anime-fan, I've kinda grown out of it (sorta...), but ingame those elements are far and few between. If you play of course in the "Far East" ingame and see Kugana und Yanxia, well, yes, the style is unmistancly asian. I think, you can call it a homage of SE to it's own culture, plus those strong elements of chinese, mongolese (?) and so on. But it has little to nothing to do with japanese anime stereotypes. Actually, it's outside those zones where the anime-moments might surprise you. Actually, the anime is often hiding in cutscenes: camera angle, lighting, focus... all these are anime-like (for me), as well as the music playing in trivial scenes, may it be serious, sinister, silly or triumphant, or just plain stupid and funny.
Don't know if I like that SE makes the game free-to-play till lvl60 on every job... so many people are freeloading it seems, it's sad... Though yes, especially combat system makes a huge jump after lvl50, so that might be a good reason... ... still ^^° I started my free trial in March this year... and after only a single day, I got my subscribtion. Needless to say, I didn't regret a single cent ^.^ Given that you and you character start out a noobs in the game, of course you wont slay dragons on your first assignment. The game actually prepares you with seemingly annoying quests to face stronger bosses (Wesk Alber just made a very good video about all the pre-quests for the Titan Trial - I warmly recomment). It doesn't just throw you at sharks (except the story demands it... Zenos... Ranjit... ... it was so, SO satisfying finishing off Ranjit, I tell you...) and makes sure you actually have an idea what you're getting yourself into. Plus, the single-player and multi-player elements are really well balanced: you have a great time with a group and still feel like you're the one the story evolves around - and this illusion isn't destroyed by the fact that everybody else thinks the same :D
... I think this is my longest comment yet...
Okay so let me address your points as someone who enjoys FF14 but doesn't agree with almost any of your statements.
1. Slow Combat System - It is. No matter how you put it, FF14 compared to other MMOs in the market has a slow combat system. This is especially true for the entire base-game of FF14: ARR. The fact that people have to point to a very specific job (ninja) to make the point that combat is "fast" is telling. If the combat is fast paced it should be universal, not apply to a few specific jobs. But even though it gets faster with each expansion, it's only faster in that expansion's content, if you reach shadowbringers content and then run a realm reborn dungeon in leveling roulettes the combat is objectively slower and that slowness is something that everyone has to play through until they reach Heavensward and by that I mean, the end of Heavensward. But even looking at your example, I'm going to call something out and say you either weren't playing games like GW2 and WoW properly, or you're lying. Because there is no way on God's green earth, that you played those games combat and were able to type in chat and have full conversations, but couldn't do that in FF14. No way. I especially think you're lying because overworld mobs that aren't fate bosses/hunts are freakin cakewalk. In fact most story/overworld encounters can be completed spamming 1 ability the entire time (it may take longer but it's possible) because that content was made to be braindead easy so that everyone can get through the story content.
2. All About Story - I agree with you that the game leans heavily into it's story and this is both a good and bad thing. If you love the story, then this is basically perfect for you. But there is no such thing as an objectively good story, and so people who aren't fans of it, will be subjected to a very terrible slog. Unfortunately in my honest opinion, because that's all it is, an opinion, the ARR story is bad. Very bad. It is a slog to play through, the characters have almost no characterization and are rather boring, the villains are evil mustache twirling bad-guys, and there's even an evil empire to boot. The story for ARR is basically nothing special, nothing that blows me away, is it better than other MMO stories? For ARR I don't think so, for me GW2, SWOTOR, and ESO had much more engaging stories for me than ARR did. Now maybe ARR has a better overarching story, but the fact that you have to wait till the expansions to experience it is a huge minus, and the way they tell their story in ARR leaves much to be desired.
3. The JRPG thing - FF14 is very anime. Anyone who doesn't believe that is in active denial, doesn't know what makes an anime an anime, or is lying to try and get people who wouldn't like anime to play the game. Final Fantasy as a series is extremely anime, and FF14 is no different. Now maybe it's story beats are more mature than: "Friendship is power" but it's still very anime. I think when people say FF14 isn't anime, they're saying it's not like a stereotypical anime (huge eyes, young child characters (Shonen), everyone's asian, etc.) but that isn't what makes an anime an anime. It's the story-telling and character tropes. The fact that it isn't in your face asian doesn't mean it's not an anime and is a weird metric to measure. The game is very anime, from it's characters, to it's tropes, to a lot of the plot points. In some cases predictably so (at least in ARR) if you've read manga or watched a lot of anime. But to say that it isn't very anime or that it is in spades, is some major denial.
4. SE needed to make the base game and first expansion free to play. Because unlike other games, you WILL NOT have a good idea of the game by the old lvl35 metric they had before. You won't. The combat system is boring, very slow, and incomplete for most job classes with a few exceptions (ninja). The story is not very engaging and doesn't give a good idea of the type of storytelling that FF14 has. ARR was shit. I'm sorry but I'm going to say it. The game was shit. They got lucky because 1.0 was so bad, and it's players were so desperate for a FF mmo, that ARR was considered good by the player base because anything was better than 1.0. However, this is 2020, the gameplay for ARR feels very dated and so it made sense for them to not only streamline it (and I feel they could have done more in that regard) and make it free to play. That way players can actually get through that slog and into HW which is a more realistic view of how the game works. In that regard making the expansion free as well also gives incentives for players to get through it.
As for your other points:
- Most MMOs have you starting off as a nobody adventurer in some regard, yes some give you the chosen one stuff but let's be real the first cutscene in ff14 insinuates you are a chosen one, and the first level 5 story establishes you as someone special too. The difference between those other MMOs and FF14, is that they are able to tell the story of a nobody adventurer better than FF14. I don't feel like an adventurer in ff14 ARR, I feel like a glorified maid/servant. No other adventurers are going around picking up people's trash, taking orders in a bar, moving packages, etc. Only we are. And it plays terribly and boringly.
- I watched that Wesk Alber video, and honestly it's not that good. It doesn't actually give a reason for why the questline is good. It just explains the logic behind the questline. And for many people I don't think that was the problem with that particular questline. We all know why the stuff is happening and why things panned out the way it did. However, it played boringly, felt like a slog, and removed all agency in what was happening at the time. Just because their is a reason for a story beat to happen doesn't make it a good story. And he never made a good case for why it was good. And even if he did, it would just be subjective, you can't really objectively measure whether a story is good or not. It's subjective, he liked the story and was trying to give reasons as too why the questline pans out the way it does. But who was that video for? People who didn't like that questline weren't going to watch that and then go: "Oh wow, he's right, the horrible slog of a questline that almost made me quit the game, it's actually good, and I just wasn't enlightened enough to understand that." No. That video was for people who already liked it and wanted confirmation on their opinion. And because of that the video came off as very snarky and condescending towards people who didn't like that particular questline.
With all that said I'm happy you enjoyed the game so much and I hope you continue to enjoy your time in Eorza, I know that even with all it's problems, I am!
@@Shadow-iy7js Wow... I stopped reading when you called me a liar...
@@markup6394 I did say it could be reasons other than lying, but those are the only options I can think of. Because the MMOs you mention have either more active combat (GW2, where you'll be to busy to actually be typing in chat), or are more advanced earlier than FF14 (WoW, which gives you most of the rotation you'll be using pretty early on). So unless in those games you are just pressing the autoattack button and then sitting there (something you can do in FF14), in which case you aren't playing right. Then yeah, what other option is there than lying, or at least embellishing facts or speaking in hyperbole.
I don't think you're lying, you sound genuinely enthusiastic about the game and that's great to hear. :)
Objectively though, I don't think the low-level experience of XIV deserves to be defended. When your class is super slow and the MSQ gives you fetch quests to prepare a banquet while a primal is supposedly on the loose, it's honestly not a great experience. You don't want new players to make their opinion of the game when the game is at its worst, and "wait until Heavensward" is a big ask when there are so many other games to play.
I actually agree with you that the combat is a lot more fun (at least to me) than WoW or even GW2 around level 60+. (More specifically, I think the classes are more fun to play than those other games, even though the combat is a bit less fluid.) But does it matter if people quit at level 30 or during the post-ARR section? No, it's too late. If the game "gets good" at Heavensward, giving Heavensward for free is actually a good idea. (I just hope it doesn't make the early game toxic. I can see pugs having less restraint if they have a throwaway account and already want to quit due to bad early game.)
Personally, it took me 3 attempts and a bad WoW expansion to get motivated to get through ARR, and mind you, I've been a huge fan of all things Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger since had a Super Nintendo. I hear they significantly improved it a recent patch (I haven't played XIV since 5.1 so I don't know), so hopefully you didn't have it as bad as I did, but ultimately I think Square-Enix should take the Guild Wars 1 campaign approach of giving you a choice of multiple starting stories that all eventually branch into the main story. And then REALLY polish that new one. (Remember you have New Game+ if you want to try it.)
how did you make those cutscene...
"FFXIV is slow as hell"
As someone who just started Savage Raiding on Ninja I can only laugh
Dragoon low levels is painful, high levels get better.
Like literally every job in this game
@@someclevername8167 the newer jobs dont hurt my brain as much
@@LemanRussx well that’s good
You missed the most obvious one: "IT'S A WEEB GAME, ONLY WEEBS PLAY IT!" this is such a stupid argument, though, I'm not even sure how you could tackle it. Somehow, liking a JRPG turns someone into a weeb, or something. I'm all for free speech and, not banning/restricting speech, but "weeb" is one term I wish we could nuke off the internet, at least when it is used as an insult.
What is that Jacket you are wearing at 3:20?
Mythic/Cutting Edge wow raider here. I like a lot about FFXIV, but I feel that the class mechanics are either too bloated or too simple. I feel like the devs for FFXIV have decided the only way you can have higher skill caps is to require more keybinds.
I know, the battle system if not perfect, but personally, I feel that every expansion it gets better, but WoW definitely has very good arguments as well (PvP for me)
for me it's hard to get my friends past ARR
Really friendly community overall too.
Only the occasional trash player that will shame people for errors instead of being a teammate. And by occasional, I mean very rare.
And if you're a healer that's shaming people, either play a new class or a new game.
Hopefully Asmon can see this
'This game is weeb shit.' End of Asmon reaction.
Leave Asmon on wow, we dont need him and his toxic fans on ff
asmon will never play this
Smurf people?! Why I never! 😆
What is that armor set in the beginning of the video?
Looks like cloud strife’s set
The Strife set. You can get it as a Veteran Reward when you have subbed for two months
What are the glamours shown at 3:15 and 3:30?
Bozjan Fending and Striking Gear, respectively
@@kaihedgie1747 Oh, nice.
Do I need to do Castrum for that, or is there other way to get them?
@@Kyle81290 Castrum only, unfortunately. You buy them with Bozjan Coins which you get from chests in the instance and when you clear, and you need to do more runs to afford augmenting them
My main complaint about the combat is not that it is "clunky" or 'slow", the issue I have with it is that it isn' t something new. It is just your run of the mill MMO combat system that we have had since the beginning.
I know the tab-targeting system is comfortable but it could be nice to see something else done with it.
I’ve put in a lot of time into FF14. I like the story a lot, but I’m going to tell you, I still don’t like the combat system. I’ve played a healer (scholar), a mage (summoner), 3 melee dps (ninja, samurai, dragoon), and 3 tanks (drk, warrior, and gnb). At best it’s clunky at worst you are stuck monitoring cooldowns and dots.
I haven’t played WoW in a while, but GW2 has my by far favorite battle system followed closely by Tera. Both of them are built in such a way that you can muscle memory everything and keep your focus entirely on the bosses and do clutch blocks / dodges.
As for FF14, I find Samurai decently fun but still nowhere close to GW2 combat. Ff14 still has cute character designs and role playing elements ahead of GW2 though.
I have most my skills down to muscle memory down as a Red Mage and as a Dancer. For the most part as a healer I am constantly pressing Stone and looking at the Tank's HP. Even more so if it's a Gunbreaker for the Ohshit moment.
As a DRK I am constantly scared that I'll fail and the world will end around me. But those skills are on muscle memory as well.
Granted I am playing on a controller which is less buttons to worry about but also a good amount to keep track of.
@@mascotvt See I understand why ff14 is the way it is. It’s supposed to be playable on a controller and have a fairly low difficulty while also being the tried and true tab targeted style of MMO. FF14 plays it safe. However because of that it feels more clunky and less responsive than other MMOs which were created with MMO gamers in mind. FF14 was created with Final Fantasy fans in mind. And there is nothing wrong with that, it’s a final fantasy game. Just as a seasoned MMO player, I find the mmo side to be lacking. The Final Fantasy side is perfect tho.
Note this isn’t me wishing it would change, it’s perfect for its audience. It’s just not for me beyond the story. Once I finish the story content, I’ll be moving on. I’ve given the combat a good chance, but I can’t grow to like it even after hundreds of hours. I can tolerate it but that’s about it.
@@xxJing Thats pefectly fine, obviously no game is perfect for anyone.
3 misconceptions about FFXIV:
1 - It's a good game once you reach end-game
2 - The community is great
3 - YoshiP is a saint with no flaws whatsoever
HOWEVER it's still, in my opinion, the best MMORPG in the market and I still support the game.
to people who felt like the game early on was boring could you share your experiences? I see a lot of people who felt it was boring early on but i don't remember ever feeling bored till i hit the quest between arr and he(which was mostly due to anticipation) and then it went away after.. I kinda feel like I'm a bit of an outlier in that lol. It was my first mmo tho so could also just have been my excpectations.
So I've got around 80 hours or so now and am almost level 60. For me, I would recommend people buy a story skip to get right to heavensward. I took like a year break in the level up process. It is a real drag especially when you are getting 0 xp for quests because they are story locked.
I've got a ton of play time in wow, and currently the classes can be demanding. I understand the 2.5 gcd but I've been playing summoner and I want something faster, so I'm looking at ninja, dancer, and bard. (I also like procs so maybe red mage) Anyways yeah the leveling was very slow and tedious for me. It took me 70 hours to get to heavensward and that's with skipping cutscenes. I guess some people enjoy the journey but not for me on this one haha.
@@ArdentRage i actually gety that a bit lol. I didn't hit hw till 100-150 hours in(mostly from me just trying out new classes n stuff) . Id definitely recommend ninja tho its really fast paced and fun. I've haven't lvled red mage yet so idk. bard is fun to be but some people think it gets boring and I haven't finished it yet so maybye check out some vids of it.
@rick mel i can get the dungeon aoe a bit especially early on. i remember being mostly excited for the bosses where I could use the single target rotation instead. Dps ques are just also pretty rough lol. i had to pf and some other stuff. I enjoyed the harder fights tho as they added new mechanics that were fun to play around. those patch quest over all tho were definitely a slog. Im currently replaying the arr section , I don't remember being too bothered by the fetch quest but I can def see how they would be repetitive.
idk i retured the past two months now... i hit level 80 every crafter and gatherer tonight already..... and i spent hours camping a house.... a plot was open somehow... and a whole free company called (bloom) on sargantas were bot clicking the house against me... they won it and nobody even moved of course but me go figure. and the devs? they have responded to the bitching ass player base about a freaking rainmaker? hairstyle of all the damn things but cant make more instanced housing or fix uch and idiotic and frustrating system. to face like 6 ppl all night just to lose sucked. right after finishing all of my crafters and shit to 80... im completely demotivated now and even logging back in later seems like meh. why?. im on a pc even. cant even imagine trying to compete on a ps4 for the one house thats opened up in months. oh the bots got the other ones they made too. one of my buddys got lucky and got one from 5.35. i shouldnt have even tried. no reason to try no reason at all for some glam that doesnt mean shit and isnt "exclusive" in anyway if there is 24 plots that are "instanced duplicated housing zones". This is the game to expect. Years of work and growing with this game just to get beat for a house by a level 1 char tonight so someone could get their alt a house. a small plot or more than 100 things is all any reasonable person wants or needs. idk just my thoughts on what ive done the last two months now.... oh and try to make money saganttanasblah1-9 bots will undercut that part of your game also. sure cause one person farms 100 stacks of anything. ever.
I know they already cut some of the chaff in job design, but after playing from zero in ARR to 80 and the end of Shadowbringers core, over the past couple monthes, as an MMO vet, I can tell you the NPE is to blame for alot of these misconceptions. They don't hold true for Heavensward onwards as you mentioned, but they do for ARR.
Three things really need to happen;
1 - oGCD abilities need to be introduced much more frequently and at far lower levels. These should be appearing en masse from level 10 onwards. You shouldn't have to wait till Level 50+ for these to appear in practical amounts.
In addition to this, abilities that define the pillars of what makes a job different from it's same role kin, should be avaliable much earlier too. For example Red Mages should get Verraise/Cure much earlier, or Paladins should be getting Clemency, Dragoons should be getting BotD and related skills, etc, by or at around 30, or at least a weaker equivalent that automatically upgrades with level.
This would go along way to tackling the "slow, boring combat" misconception, and just make low level roulette more fun. This is the biggest issue I feel.
2 - Key gameplay features are locked behind obscure or hidden quests. Do you know I had almost finished ARR before I stumbled upon the Challenge Log? This stuff needs to be streamlined.
Challenge Log, Achievements, Sightseeing Log, Glamour, etc, and similar features, should all be unlocked as soon as you create your character or at the very least during your initial walkaround of your starting city. If you are not guaranteed to have these things unlocked by level 10, game design has gone terribly wrong - and you can miss out on alot because of it.
You don't need to bombard the player with popup help messages about them either, if they're worried about information overload. Most people will instinctively figure out most of these anyway.
3 - ARR Story and Post-Game Pre-HW Story needs to be streamlined or remade, one or the other. I know they already removed some quests, but it's absolutely not enough. Not even close. The jump in content quality from ARR to HW is MASSIVE. But many people won't have the patience to stick it out that long to get to the good stuff, and I don't blame them. Base ARR Story is mediocre to okay at best, and downright awful, poor and boring at worst. I bet alot of people don't have the patience for it and drop the game before it get's good because of it, never to give it another chance. No, MTX story skip potion is NOT a solution - why would people spend extra money on something they aren't enjoying? Why should they have to anyway?
On a related note, HW jobs should be relocated to acquisition quests in ARR areas at 30 (with the StB and ShB jobs also being brought down to level 30 unlock), so people can play what they want to play as their main sooner. I've read about many people disheartened at the current requirements here, and I know the game has lost potential players because of this. It's in everybody's best interests for that not to happen.
Do these three simple things, and I feel the game would much more easily garner favour within other communities and be taken more seriously, nipping these misconceptions based on part-truths in the bud early enough to not wear out people's patience first.
Preach brother! I'm trying to bring so many friends from WoW but ARR is soooo slow
@@AzelasFromHyrule Yeah, I know the feeling. "You've got to play it for at least two weeks before it get's fun, but then it's amazing!" is not a good sales pitch for anything. But it's the only honest one you can give (and if you look at user reviews on Steam, etc, they are full of this sentiment).
I made it because I was a mental health care worker for a decade so I've developed a momentous amount of patience (though it even pushed my tolerance at times), and I've got plenty of free time right now thanks to CoVID (thankfully I had a career change before that happened lol). But if the circumstances had been any different, not sure even I would have been willing to stick it out till it "got good".
I had to go it solo in the game too though because of these mis-designs that scare other people away though.
They're just too afraid to let go of something they spent so much time on and became too bias to the point where they reject everything else. It's closed minded unlike the other WoW players that branch out and try different games. I've never played WoW. I've always played other games though and FFXIV is one of them mainly because I've been playing Square Soft then Square Enix games. I was always a JRPG fan to begin with so WoW wasn't going to reel me in. When people were playing WoW I was the group that played Ragnarok Online. The..pictures of of the long eyebrow elf people that I see from WoW and the no pupil would always annoy me because it looks..kind of stupid no offense. The armor designs are barf worthy. It really reminds me of GW2 with the unnatural color schemes on the armor and spikes in stupid places. Just looking at the concept art I knew that that game wasn't for me. The difference between me and loyal WoW fans is that..I don't really care enough to stay "loyal" or be a "hardcore" player to any title to the point where I'd reject everything else. It's really about the aesthetics and the vibe I think I'll get if I played. GW2 is getting their voice overs for the most current story and I'm heading that way after I finish up another relic farming batch. Oh I add that last part in just to point out that even though I like FFXIV I will always be playing other games. I play FFXIV a lot but by my own standard..I'm not a hardcore player.
I can't tell the difference between a bow attack and a spell in this game they all feel and look the same!
why does every skill have this same colorful flashy animation instead of ones that are a bit realistic and unique to the weapon?
make me feel like I am using a bow god dammit
I am all 80 include crafters. I find no fun anymore. I finished story, i beat alexander, i destroyed ultima, and i lose interest in previous ultimate. All my sets are optimize. I do not have static, but i manage to have 75 avg parse.
You could say there are much more, the free company submarine, estates and so on, but for me its pretty much it
One thing that isn't a misconception is that it's very repetitive. Grind for this new tomes get high gear. Ugh
Every MMO is somewhat repetitive. It’s unavoidable
@@someclevername8167 you have accepted that it's unavoidable that is all
Mis or pre conceptions are only powerful if you act on them or don't 🤔 FFXIV isn't for everyone and those who find it are better for it. Eveb
Its pronounced Hyper-Bowl-Eee
wow dps players shld give ffxiv a try. lol.
sorry to say that but ishgard on my Server ( Lich on Light ) was overrun by bot users. There is NO way u can beat that as normal human being with a Job and Morals. IF the Competition would be fair without these Programs then i would agree with u, but as far as i saw it - Nope
Number 2 gets me.
People being like - "iT's aLL aBoUt tHe sToRy"
F that.
I skipped everything before Shadowbringers, burned through that, and now am having a TON of fun learning Savage Eden fights with new friends.
You absolutely do NOT have to do any of the pre-Shadowbringers MSQ to still have a lot of fun in this game.
The endgame combat is complex and past-paced enough to be it's own reason to play the game (which also crushes the first misconception)
I'm not saying everyone should skip the story, absolutely not. If that's your thing, go for it!
But if it's not your thing, I'm here to let you know you can safely skip it (using the boosts from the cash-shop) and still have a lot of fun with this game.
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Been playing FFXIV for a while now but recently switched to WoW for a reason you mentioned, aesthetic. Sorry to say it but WoW just has a better style overall imo, the combat feels WAY more fluid & offers more endgame content, not to mention this is the best time to try WoW as the level cap has been reduced to 50.
It's personal pref. For me personally? I really dislike the way WoW "looks" aesthetically and design wise (forgetting it's age for a moment). I don't like the gear styles or a lot of the environements or boss design. Though I'm sure WoW is a great game to play, I tried for a few months, it just wasn't for me.
Well, Final Fantasy sure isn't for everyone. So it's good you're enjoying WOW. Maybe I am not seeing the huge amount of endgame content, but when I compare game-wikis it seems to be a rather similar amount. With wow having a bigger amount of PVP stuff.
As someone who also returned to WoW, I have to disagree sorta. The combat is certainly more fluid in WoW but I'm not sure I'd say it's more fun when even a simpler job like red mage has a more interesting rotation than pretty much all the classes and specs I have in WoW. I find WoW's class complexity to be in build crafting, not in its minute to minute gameplay. I was looking forward for the "great unpruning" to put back some oomph into WoW's class rotations but it didn't improve things as much as I had hoped for. (Except for shadow priests but they got a full class overhaul.) Also, outside of a few outliers like paladins, shadow priests and demon hunters, I think they're a bit lacking in the style and class identity department. I know some people don't care how cool their character look in combat, but I do.
In addition, I think you're confusing "end-game content" with "challenging content" if you think WoW has more of it because holy sh-- they do not. A "major path" in WoW is basically an 8 to 12-boss raid, and if planets are aligned we might get a new zone, a new dungeon or a new PvP arena (but usually neither.) That's it. WoW is a million times better for people looking for serious challenge like raids and mythic+ (that's why I came back to WoW personally, so not contesting that) but if I wasn't an heroic raider I would immediately quit WoW and return to FFXIV.
Aesthetics comes down to personal preference. I think both games look great and have a nice art style. Despite its age I think Guild Wars 2 looks better than either game, but they all look a lot better than ESO and SW:TOR to me.
After having all classes leveled I still see the flaws of the game as I first started it
The game is too damn slow especially for newer player who wants to catch up with their friends
The Story overall was good if you really put attention into reading most of it
and I still don't understand why for a subscription based game why are most of the quests have no voice even for main scenario quests
also most of the game you can play through like a Single player game (just like me) this could be seen as a pos or con
still I'm resubbing again just to find out what the hell am I to do after grinding all the jobs
Try the trial if you havn't but don't expect it to be very engaging in the early stage of the game
I’m curious you say single player game? I thought every dungeon required a party
@@Remonade- there are systems like squadron and trust which let you party with AI via these systems you could do faster dungeon especially for DPS
also personally ffxiv's dungeons doesn't require much communication if you know what you're doing
I like how desperately you want people to play the game but you don't have to down right lie . The game is a grind fest period you play any other MMO for 8 hrs. and then you play FFXIV for 3 hours and your ground into dirt tired . Just by starting off with no.1 that the game is slow and in that section you talk about the complexity of the game and barely talk about if its true about slowness of it shows how your white washing it. You say the biggest complaint is the slowness of it but put 2 seconds into the topic on your list and then stuff it with comentary on the complexity of the controls which should be a topic of it's own shows how not just biased to the game down right lieing to people about it.
I like FFXIV for my own reasons but I'm not going to lie about the grind it's bad very bad. So instead of trying to convince people that what there feeling in the game and going thru is a lie you should be making videos telling Yoshi P to rework the horrible grind.
grind? sure you're talking about ffxiv?
@@alexiatheirin8294 O.K. It will be nice with starting a conversation with truths even this video starts off with it by saying that everyone is talking about it. Which is the biggest issue with FFXIV Desperius to Zepla to Work to Game to many more so if your going to start with a false hood then it’s a non starter.
Killer roast.
Another player expecting everything handed to them at every turn. Try earning your stuff
@@enyaliosares4301 which player you talking about me or the countless thousands that expressed this same opinion on so many different platforms . Just this video starting off with it at no. 1 is telling enough but if you were truthful with yourself and stop writing one liners to try to win an imaginary game would be a lot more helpful and highlight your intelligence instead of your child like behavior.
While i agree with the artstyle being on the top of most mmos, also the combat system is very fun and engaging.
I totally disagree about the world and the story......... The world feels cramped and tiny compared to any other mmos (yes i know, weak console hardware tribute)
....and the story? ..its garbage and super boring... with totally unlikeable characters like alphinaud, tataru ...
But the heavy instanced world caused me to stop playing... it is even more pronounced when you unlock flying mounts...
Are you speaking as someone who only played ARR and nothing else?
@@kaihedgie1747 All expansions
@@Ryak84 Yet this rant about the story reads as someone who didn't get past ARR
@@kaihedgie1747 This is no rant, its an unbiased opinion without the usual FF14 dickriding
The first point about the combat system, as a person who had played the game since beta up and until finally quitting the game permanently in shadow bringers with those horrific jobs homogenizing and simplification changes....the shit is boring as fuck to play now CURRENTLY no matter what portion of the game you wish to play. JOBS DO NOT PLAY DIFFERENTLY, also a lie you told. The 3rd misconception I have never heard anyone cry about, but if anyone is wondering the character creation leaves a lot to be desired across the board.
Strange then I don't believe a word you just said
@@kaihedgie1747 strange, I tried my best to give a fuck....and I just don't 😔
3 major misconceptions of FF14.
It isn't a rythem game. It boils down to, timers and cordination.
It isn't a slow game. It is slow, they just use a lot of buttons to make it seem fast.
It isn't a weeb game. Bruh it is ultra weeb.
I am not hating on FF 14, it is a good game. Sadly, the pro's of FF 14, can also be considered con's, when it comes to MMO's. Really a matter of perspective.