Sounds great, Jim! Wanted an SY77 so bad when I was younger. Did you ever grab a Montage M? Love most things about the M8X. Wish ANX had filters with more character and was a bit more full featured.
Thank you, Jim, for playing the intro to the Chicago single “If She Would Have Been Faithful” at 1:00. Hearing it was like chicken soup for the soul, no matter what anyone else might have to say about that song.
LOVE that song. Those David Foster harmonies are NUTS! I had the honor of having Jason Scheff over a few months ago to start reimagining some of those songs for Arcade Orchestra, and it was mind blowing to hear him sing those parts 38 years later - he still sounds just as good!
I doubt you not, @@JimDaneker. There’s been many of times when I have enjoyed hearing Jason sing more than hearing Peter Cetera. Each of them brought something different to Chicago. I wish I had such an opportunity as you did.
Nice video! I have an SY85 from the early 90's that is still kicking around. Never figured out how to do any sound synthesis or adjustment of patches on it and didn't know anything about its lineage. Kind of exciting it is in the family descended from the DX!
The SY85 was a fantastic synth too. Very different from the 77/99 - it had no FM engine like the DX series and the SY77/99 as it was purely sample-based. But it did sound great and could make some wonderful sounds!
@@JimDaneker Thanks for the information! I bought it for the onboard sequencer in the day. So difficult to work on that small 2 row display. Graduated to MIDI controllers and Logic in the late 2000's and don't do any recording nowadays. I wish there had been UA-cam and how-to tutorials in the 90's so I could have really expanded my knowledge at the time when I had more time and more hunger for it. 🙂
such an epic synth. as well as the massive analog style sounds, i also love trying to get filthy modern FM basses out of it. have to wonder if the designers even knew what it was capable of
Thanks you for this premium demo. I'm a proud owner of a TG77. SY99/TG77 are a real (sometimes complicated) synths. Not your average Behringer or Roland preset crap. But oh boy, can they sound exotic!!!!
The sy77 was a very complex synth , not only sound wise but also how it was built. It weighs a ton , even more than the dx7 did in the past. I also have a cs2x from 10 years later. It was made like a cheap Casio keyboard with just a dsp chip inside and a few peripherals. What a difference in build quality
It's not that heavy, what 17kg? Sadly I missed the SY77 - my first "synth" that I bought myself (from gig money) was an SY85 when I was 14, and that's 15kg. I would take that on the bus in a flight case to high school and walk up the drive with it. Another student in my year had the SY35 and I was envious of what his keyboard could do, but preferred the action on mine. I've just cleaned and lubricated the action, replaced the floppy drive with a USB simulator, and addressed a couple of other minor issues. Why can't we have controllers with actions like this in 2024?
Great video - like usual :o) THanks a lot of sharing. I own a TG77 but didn`t use it for +18 years. I was not reminding that it coud sound that way ... before finally swithing to Motif etc. I found the EX7 "nicer" in comparison to the TG77. What do you think about the EX7?
I had an EX5 and loved it - killer synth. I'd love one again with the AN-X board! Very different than the SY77/99 though - I will always adore FM synths. They get a bad rap for being "cold/digital" but I couldn't disagree more - they can sound really warm and lush, as this video shows 😁
Wasn't that originally a Moog at 5:14 (on the record)? I always thought that it was.. but that sounded darn close. Beginning of Sussudio as well? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly. Love this SY vid.. I never owned one, but had buddies that did.
That was all Oberheim. This video isn't to claim that this was the synth used on those songs - it's just to show that it's capable of playing in those same ballparks, with big, fat tones 😁
Check out Anthony Marinelli's channel. He just had a video with Dr Dre's keyboard player showing how the song "G Thang" was actually played with an SY77. All along, everyone thought it was played with a Minimoog. I'm so glad I own an SY77.
The sizzle is great, it's fat, its warm, it's got a very distinct enya type feel too! (along with so many 80's classics!) not sure if enya used one if these, but I'm sure my ears hear it :)
SY55 has the AWM engine but lacks the AFM engine, same heavy duty build quality with slightly less nice feeling keys (still great keys with great aftertouch). They feel like two very different synths.
I’ve got an SY55 and it’s sample based using the same samples as the SY77 but no FM synth engine. Some of the sounds are actually still good like the synth bass and the sax is very good for stabs in dance music It has surprisingly good filters and other effects that can drastically change the samples. 8 track sequencer that holds 8 songs compared to the 16 track one song on the SY77
@@TayWoode I'm pretty sure the samples being actually better in the 55, with a bit more detail. I was quite disappointed with the samples in the 77. The 55 came out after and might have benefited from the samples that made it into the 99.
@@TayWoode No, SY/TG55 has only 2MB PCM-ROM, versus 4MB on SY/TG77. There may be other differences within their PCM-subtractive synth engines, too, or auxiliary to them (e.g. '77 has separate pan envelopes, not sure about '55).
Neither did the DX7, and it defined a decade. It's all about the sounds and what you do with them. Back in those days you typically had multiple synths/modules, so that's how you did splits & layers.
@@croonologist Yep, connect Midi out to Midi in, then you can play live on two channels. And anyway per "Voice" you had two FM sounds layered or split and two AWM sounds. With that trick you could play 8 different sounds at the same time. 'doordedeur' is probably referring to a different synth.
The SY77 lacks the "Master Controller" feature of the SY99 which allows layering and/or split sounds without any hack. On the SY99: (1) Setup the desired voices within a "MULTI"; and (2) set up the splits/layers within a custom "Master Controller" configuration.
I've owned pretty much every DX/TX which I adore - especially the TX816 - and I'll agree to disagree. The SY77 is totally unique and sounds fantastic. Yeah, the TX can do those iconic massive EP layers, but it can't do the more complex stuff that the SY can. They compliment each other really well.
I came here from the Yamaha DX7 group on Facebook, and I am overawed by the sheer cinematic quality of these patches. Well done, Jim!
Thanks Steve!
You made my week with these awesome sounds brother! Thank you! Love ya’ Jim!!!
Sounds great, Jim!
Wanted an SY77 so bad when I was younger.
Did you ever grab a Montage M?
Love most things about the M8X. Wish ANX had filters with more character and was a bit more full featured.
Been waiting on a Montage M8X since October! 😢
Thank you, Jim, for playing the intro to the Chicago single “If She Would Have Been Faithful” at 1:00. Hearing it was like chicken soup for the soul, no matter what anyone else might have to say about that song.
LOVE that song. Those David Foster harmonies are NUTS! I had the honor of having Jason Scheff over a few months ago to start reimagining some of those songs for Arcade Orchestra, and it was mind blowing to hear him sing those parts 38 years later - he still sounds just as good!
I doubt you not, @@JimDaneker. There’s been many of times when I have enjoyed hearing Jason sing more than hearing Peter Cetera. Each of them brought something different to Chicago. I wish I had such an opportunity as you did.
@@Shred_The_Weapon I was definitely pinching myself. The best part is he's an absolute stellar human being - can't say enough good stuff about him!
I dig, @@JimDaneker.
Nice video! I have an SY85 from the early 90's that is still kicking around. Never figured out how to do any sound synthesis or adjustment of patches on it and didn't know anything about its lineage. Kind of exciting it is in the family descended from the DX!
The SY85 was a fantastic synth too. Very different from the 77/99 - it had no FM engine like the DX series and the SY77/99 as it was purely sample-based. But it did sound great and could make some wonderful sounds!
@@JimDaneker Thanks for the information! I bought it for the onboard sequencer in the day. So difficult to work on that small 2 row display. Graduated to MIDI controllers and Logic in the late 2000's and don't do any recording nowadays. I wish there had been UA-cam and how-to tutorials in the 90's so I could have really expanded my knowledge at the time when I had more time and more hunger for it. 🙂
As soon as I heard, “warbly,” I immediately thought, “Willow!” 😂 How freakin’ cool! Thanks Jimbo!
What would the ‘80’s have been without David Foster?!
Right?!?? His DNA was everywhere!
What would Chicago have been without David Foster? Actually that’s what everyone in Chicago BUT Peter Cetera is thinking.😂😂😂😂
couldn’t afford the SY77 back in the day, but i had two SY77 posters on my wall. still have them too!
Amazing how cheap you can find them today!
If you're lucky they go for 300 something dollars on eBay
@@zeldafan9016 yep - $350 for mine in mint shape! 😁
@@zeldafan9016 Hard to find ones that have been loved and cared for though. Most are dirty beaten up wrecks.
Simply great!
such an epic synth. as well as the massive analog style sounds, i also love trying to get filthy modern FM basses out of it. have to wonder if the designers even knew what it was capable of
great sounds Jim!
Thanks buddy! Wish I could take credit, but they're mostly 3rd party that I tweaked a bit ;-)
@@JimDaneker 90% of the win is in making the selections that resonate with you!
very good demo man! also love your 80s style of playing. subs to your channel already.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Thanks you for this premium demo. I'm a proud owner of a TG77. SY99/TG77 are a real (sometimes complicated) synths. Not your average Behringer or Roland preset crap. But oh boy, can they sound exotic!!!!
@@sK3LeTvM1 sure thing!
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De Roland? Tú estás mal de la cabeza,de Roland dice
@4:49 Reminds me of a duran duran song - sounds like this was the patch they used on an arpegiator
Ahhh… This gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling. 😊
Yes sir! Me too!
classic Yamaha through 80s and 90s.
Yup!
i got an sy99 and an tg77they can sound very big and also got a tg55
The sy77 was a very complex synth , not only sound wise but also how it was built. It weighs a ton , even more than the dx7 did in the past. I also have a cs2x from 10 years later. It was made like a cheap Casio keyboard with just a dsp chip inside and a few peripherals. What a difference in build quality
@@Johnsormani yep. I completely pulled mine apart to replace the screen and upgrade the opamps - huge job!
@@JimDanekeryes I know. My screen is still readable so I’ll put that off as long as possible
It's not that heavy, what 17kg? Sadly I missed the SY77 - my first "synth" that I bought myself (from gig money) was an SY85 when I was 14, and that's 15kg. I would take that on the bus in a flight case to high school and walk up the drive with it. Another student in my year had the SY35 and I was envious of what his keyboard could do, but preferred the action on mine. I've just cleaned and lubricated the action, replaced the floppy drive with a USB simulator, and addressed a couple of other minor issues. Why can't we have controllers with actions like this in 2024?
Great video - like usual :o) THanks a lot of sharing. I own a TG77 but didn`t use it for +18 years. I was not reminding that it coud sound that way ... before finally swithing to Motif etc. I found the EX7 "nicer" in comparison to the TG77. What do you think about the EX7?
I had an EX5 and loved it - killer synth. I'd love one again with the AN-X board! Very different than the SY77/99 though - I will always adore FM synths. They get a bad rap for being "cold/digital" but I couldn't disagree more - they can sound really warm and lush, as this video shows 😁
@@JimDaneker _ great machine, the ex5! not an alternative to SY/TG but a perfect complement
Wasn't that originally a Moog at 5:14 (on the record)? I always thought that it was.. but that sounded darn close. Beginning of Sussudio as well? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly. Love this SY vid.. I never owned one, but had buddies that did.
That was all Oberheim. This video isn't to claim that this was the synth used on those songs - it's just to show that it's capable of playing in those same ballparks, with big, fat tones 😁
Check out Anthony Marinelli's channel. He just had a video with Dr Dre's keyboard player showing how the song "G Thang" was actually played with an SY77. All along, everyone thought it was played with a Minimoog. I'm so glad I own an SY77.
São timbres altamente inspirativos , nuances incríveis!!🔧✨
Can you do a Van Halen Jump patch please?
The sizzle is great, it's fat, its warm, it's got a very distinct enya type feel too! (along with so many 80's classics!) not sure if enya used one if these, but I'm sure my ears hear it :)
She definitely used a lot of DX7 and Juno/Jupiter!
Wow, sounds really amazing😮.. What about tg77 rack version vs sy77 or 99.. Can I get all of then sounds, what's de different between then?
TG77 is identical to the SY77 😁
@BolotonMr
SY77: 5-octave keyboard (velocity, channel aftertouch), sequencer (16 tracks, 16000 MIDI events), FDD (3.5" DS/DD), no INDIVIDUAL line output.
TG77: 19" rack, sequencer no, FDD no, INDIVIDUAL line output 1..8.
TG77 had some subtle benefits to it (aside from more audio outputs), really wish they'd have kept the floppy drive, though.
5:32 Van Halen - "When It's Love" 🙂
Is there going to be a Jim Daneker tour anytime soon to experience all of these great sounds live?
Yes indeed - be sure to follow Arcade Orchestra! That's my lifelong dream and we're hard at work to make it happen! 😁
@@JimDaneker I can’t wait! That is going to be epic!
@@jcedar25 me either, my friend 😁👊🏻
Wow can I buy the patches from u
See the video description- most are 3rd party patches I bought, so I provided links. 😁
Hey, did anybody tried out the new Halion 7 from Steinberg?
I definitely heard some CCM classics in there.🙂
That's 3 decades of working in that world talking 😁
Anyone knows how this compares to the SY55?
SY55 has the AWM engine but lacks the AFM engine, same heavy duty build quality with slightly less nice feeling keys (still great keys with great aftertouch). They feel like two very different synths.
I had both. Sy77 is far better, with FM. 55 is just a rompler.
I’ve got an SY55 and it’s sample based using the same samples as the SY77 but no FM synth engine.
Some of the sounds are actually still good like the synth bass and the sax is very good for stabs in dance music
It has surprisingly good filters and other effects that can drastically change the samples.
8 track sequencer that holds 8 songs compared to the 16 track one song on the SY77
@@TayWoode I'm pretty sure the samples being actually better in the 55, with a bit more detail. I was quite disappointed with the samples in the 77. The 55 came out after and might have benefited from the samples that made it into the 99.
@@TayWoode No, SY/TG55 has only 2MB PCM-ROM, versus 4MB on SY/TG77. There may be other differences within their PCM-subtractive synth engines, too, or auxiliary to them (e.g. '77 has separate pan envelopes, not sure about '55).
1:19 grown up christmas list??? hell yeah!
Had to play that song many times on Amy/MWS Christmas tours. Such great songs ;-)
Best sounds to me are @8.37 and @9.26...its like Jan Hammer that does a new 80's Miamy Vice score.😎👍
На одном синтезаторе можно целый альбом записать.
“Cyclops” = Last Chance Band, Oklahoma City, 1989!!
What external arpeggiator were you using?
Just the one in Logic Pro.
Who changed your screen to blue?
I did. The old one needed to be replaced.
@@JimDaneker was it hard?
@@Swanlord05 yes, the SY77 is the most difficult synth I've worked on - lots of layers!
Just listening to minute 8:35 and 9:25 you know it's worth it. Vangelis and Days of Thunder.
It didn't have modes to layer or split sounds, so live it was useless.
Neither did the DX7, and it defined a decade. It's all about the sounds and what you do with them. Back in those days you typically had multiple synths/modules, so that's how you did splits & layers.
someone said there was a hack to do it, maybe MIDI auto-chain, I don't remember
@@croonologist Yep, connect Midi out to Midi in, then you can play live on two channels. And anyway per "Voice" you had two FM sounds layered or split and two AWM sounds.
With that trick you could play 8 different sounds at the same time. 'doordedeur' is probably referring to a different synth.
The SY77 lacks the "Master Controller" feature of the SY99 which allows layering and/or split sounds without any hack. On the SY99: (1) Setup the desired voices within a "MULTI"; and (2) set up the splits/layers within a custom "Master Controller" configuration.
I have an SY77 -- I've never tried but surely you just create a multi with two sounds set to say, ch 1 and set the key ranges?
It's not a very good-sounding synth. Those pianos pale in comparison to my TX816.
I've owned pretty much every DX/TX which I adore - especially the TX816 - and I'll agree to disagree. The SY77 is totally unique and sounds fantastic. Yeah, the TX can do those iconic massive EP layers, but it can't do the more complex stuff that the SY can. They compliment each other really well.
@@JimDaneker fair enough. I guess I like the tonality of the earlier modules.
@@burns46824 me too - I've always been a sucker for DX synths, and there's nothing better than a TX816! Absolutely monstrous sounds!
TX816 is a DX7 on massive steroids. SY77 adds the secret sauce of the samples. Killer combination!
@@tomcoyan1730 for sure!
Dwayne Gettel of skinny puppy/download was famous for using this synth🎹🎚️🎧👌 rip 🙏 BrAp oN!!¡!✋✌️