WOW, The Hair Guru's are getting WORSER!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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The way I was screaming Read them , while watching 😂😂. I can't stand seeing those videos, or hearing someone with manicure Locs acting like they are going to die because they didn't get a retwist. It's giving I need to perm my hair because my new growth is showing.
lol like relaxxxxx you'll make it through a couple months without the retwist
READ THEM! FINISH THEMMMM! 😆😭
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Word
READ THEM
DRAG THEM
TELL DEM TO SUCK DERE MUDDAHS (Lmao issok leave that level of smoke for me 🤣😅)
I live in SW Florida and the other day at the gas station I complimented a young black boy on his freeform locs. He immediately looked confused but smiled and said thank you. After he checked out he turned to me and said he was grateful for the compliment because his family and friends say ‘he needs a retwist’ and that’s it’s “not cute.” I lowkey got upset and responded “people don’t understand what FREEFORM means or looks like” and we both laughed it off in agreeance. Seeing him leave with an extra boost of confidence really made my week ❤️. This video definitely was sent to me. Im still into the versatile look (I have locs as well) but I am so ashamed sometimes with the loc community n how we shame different hair textures that we just simply don’t do enough research on…
That's so awesome.
I had to deal with this when I first started free forming in 2012, was annoying but it's alittle bit more accepted but it's still polarizing
This made me smile 😊
I'm late this put tears in my eyes
Yes! This made me smile as well
Some people hate their blackness and will have a problem with anything/anyone that reminds them of it. Whatever you do, these people are gonna hate...their problem is 'mental slavery!' I have locs and I retwist 4 times per year. Like you, I like to keep my hairline and crown relatively thick - I have fine hair so the longer I go without a retwist, the better.
All black peoples hair is fine.
@@ladybird491 I like this pun!
You are right, so many black people
Me 2 I twist 4 times a year, because that's works for my locs
@@ladybird491 Not really, I’ve got very coarse and thick hair strands.
I absolutely hate the “your hair is not kinky, it’s dry”, “you have a curl pattern, you just need moisture to bring it out” rhetoric. Like no babes, my hair IS 4c even when it’s fully moisturized and I love it just the way it grows out of my scalp. Also, when I’m in between retwisting or interlocking I never apologize for the state of my hair - you know when ppl be like “oh, excuse my hair. I need to get it done.” (I feel this way about ppl apologizing for having bare, makeup-free face too, but that’s a whole other conversation). It would be implying that my hair is only beautiful when manicured which is a lie from the pits of hell.
YUPP!!!! you said it best!!! its true, the way people act like not getting retwists is the end of the world is very strange lol. thank u for writing this
I do believe that we have less understanding of exactly what moisture (water) does for our hair because our "hair history" in this country has been to be without water or to run from water when it comes to our hair. However I also believe it gets unhealthy when we start to make someone else's hair "hair goals" and dismiss the beauty of the hair we have, however it grows out of our head. Everyone should wear their hair the way they want to and I love that we have so many choices. I also think it is more than likely healthier to do much less with our hair than we do, even as a any type of natural, loc'd, unloc'd, freeform loc, wash and go, twist out, banded, etc. We need to let other women find what works for their style and lifestyle and leave them alone. If they ASK for advice, give it. Otherwise, just celebrate them and how they express themselves through their hair.
@@lblack1961 this!!!! what you wrote is golden.
The hair texture gate keeping always gets me lmao. Like the only acceptable texture is wet and curly nothing else. That's not how it works
@@lblack1961 👏🏿👏🏿
I have semi free form locs and will never forget how my aunt told me I look like a Nigerian mad man. Also my sister has sister locs and I’ve noticed she always gets compliments for her locs while I’m right next to her with a different type of locs. Mind you behind closed doors she always complains to me about thinning and how she wishes she had my thicker locs. It all used to hurt but I’m starting not to care. People will talk shit but as long as my hair is healthy, why should I care
yeah it definitely hurts. its sad tbh people treat kinky hair that is free terribly.
I'm a semi-freeformer what I've learned recently is that sometimes when a person has sister locs, as the person becomes older they have thinning hair issues
I'm sorry but Nigerian mad man is too funny 😂
Thank you, Mayowa. You helped me grow. My 21 year old son has locs. I'm always nagging him to re-twist his hair. He doesn't like me doing that but I've ignored him. I'm going to stop doing that.
awww im so happy this video has helped you embrace your sons hair texture better :D
Queen of Sheba, that's wonderful! So many of us get defensive when faced with acknowledging that our actions towards loved ones can cause harm (even unintentionally). This is despite having had similar experiences ourselves. Shout-out to you for openness, setting aside ego. May you receive the same understanding you seek to have wherever you go. I imagine that if your son becomes a parent, he'll be more likely to recognize and honor his child's full personhood and right to agency. Sounds dramatic, but I wish I'd had that as a teen when my father was deeply offended by my two-strand twists. Well done, Queen!
@@loveheals6184 thank you, Sis! ❤
@@shekwaga you're very welcome 🤗. I had to celebrate you for trying to understand even through the discomfort, rather than dig in on "I'm right. That's it." Lol. I'm working on that too, so I respect it. ❤🙏🏿
@@loveheals6184 Ase' O!
THANK YOU. This binary thinking about hair is disgusting. I've lost friends after changing my hair. After 19 years I decided to cut off my locs because I'd never experienced having my loose hair and playing around with it. I got so many comments insinuating I was depressed or having a meltdown simply because I decided to cut off 'good' butt length sisterlocs. The obsession with good hair has sank deeply into the natural hair movement and most people don't realize it. The concepts of washdays, 'moisturizing' 'defined' curls, 'edges', 'laid' locs, these are ALL shackles stemming from the 'good hair' movement. People don't even realize
Thank you for addressing this topic. This goes for young children as well. People always comment on my son’s beautiful 4C hair, “When is he getting a line up ?” “ When is he getting a haircut?” Or “You should let the barber shave it all off”. It speaks volumes to the hate of 4C hair. Some people hate to see it. I am teaching myself and my son on how to love and accept our 4C hair. I will not give into the pressure of society like I used to. I have lost hair follicles and have a damaged scalp due to this madness. Learning to love myself.
Our idea of cleanliness in America is whack. If a cleaning agent is not in a mass produced bottle with chemicals we can’t pronounce then we’re not “doing it right” or “cleaning throughly”.
Exactly, if it was not bought in a store then...some of the best things to use in natural hair comes from my garden, ratchet, aloes and homemade coconut oil 🇹🇹. Keep it simple and grow thick hair.
@@kafirsunfire5932 exactly and i wish that the natural hair community stopped relying so much on sooo many different products when natural products can work just as well and have better reactions to the scalp
@@kafirsunfire5932 n i also wish that i could grow my own stuff too, but i live in a rather small apartment with a tiny balcony
Exactly Bob Marley washed his hair with Hibiscus Tea no shampoo no soap I was mine with black soap and herbal teas Once in a while with Acv and baking soda Moisturizer is always Water or herbal tea mix
Right! I used to feel like I needed to use feminine wash daily in order to be clean but I kept getting infections due to my PH balance being thrown off. My new gynecologist told me that it wasn’t necessary so I removed it from my routine and I haven’t had issues since! This rhetoric that we need to slather ourselves in chemicals to be clean in problematic.
I just started to let my hair loc. The amount of people who have dragged me ( family and co-workers) is insane. I've never been more free. I feel so liberated and happy. I honestly dgaf about these people, I'm worried about what makes me happy.
Hello I’m going on 2 yrs with my locs. I started off really short and I had my family and coworkers talking not in a positive way about me starting them but once I got more length now three colleagues started their locs but with extensions. Some family members started theirs too. I think it’s what society says about them and people care what others think. Hang in their you’ll probably get some followers soon. Locs are beautiful.
Yesssss like ive never felt more powerful and sexy i love my hair my short 4c locs ik they will grow but honestly i love im loving short look rn 😩
When people are rude and you're late to notice, I believe thus means you're a genuinely good person. You don't recognize rudeness right away. That's a good thing. Says a lot about u inside 🌻
it is never a good thing...
Totally get being slow at realizing the insults or nastiness of other people. I figure the issue is that you are hard to get it because you project your positive approach to treating one's fellowman onto others. Everyone else is not that way.
literallyyyy and I always assume black people are wanting to learn about my hair when in reality some people are thinking bad things about it.
I also have locs (my profile pic is 6 years old lol before I got locs) . They are not free form though. I always get asked how often I wash my hair. I really don’t want to answer that question bc I never ask anyone how often they wash theirs. It’s rude. I know for ppl who have free form locs it’s only worse and the stereotyping happens more.
Thanks for posting this video and always speaking your truth. Seeing you be you, really helps.
yupppp youre so right!!! there's so much interrogation about the 'cleanliness' it is really excessive.
When my locs were manicured I got them washed when I got them refreshed and that was every maybe 3 months. Then it got to be once or twice a year. And finally I was like screw it lol. My hair doesn't cost much now to maintain because I go cut a leaf off the aloe and blend it with cucumber and coconut oil and that is the whole of it.
That is soooo truuuue
Girl I have locs too, and get asked that same stupid question like are ppl really that bold to ask that. I love my hair whether I get a retwist or not
I find it interesting that the only time blk people speak on hair cleanliness and neatness, is when afro hair is phenotypically blk and not manipulated to a European standard
It's so disappointing when people police our hair. You know what's best for you.
Your hair is healthy and natural products have been used for years.
thank you love!
In the Caribbean we just referred to freeform as bongo natty, to us that is the original locs, where you just let the near loc however it pleases, as the origins of Rastafari do
I started loc’ing my hair since three months ago and it’s been an AMAZING journey but I haven’t even told my mom that I’m loc’ing because there’s a trope in Haitian culture that if you have locs, you considered a “vagabond”, troublemaker, and unkept. I’ve heard of it WAY TOO MANY times before that at one point, I honestly thought it was true. But having to understand the history behinds locs and free form locs and the versatility, you see a different and beautiful perspective of black people just embracing that ISH. Btw, I really love your insight and your hair is BOMBTASTIC! They just mad cause it’s thick and it’s giving INCHES!
yuppp thats the same for Nigerians too! I kept mine a secret til 6/7 months in, just until I felt confident in my decisions and the ability to defend myself. there's a lot of unlearning we do as black people but im glad you're on your journey!
Girl, I'm right there with you. My parents from Haiti and ever since I started to wear my locs out around the 5 month mark (I'm about to be 8 soon, yay!), my mom has always had a problem. To the point she cried saying she doesn't have a "junkie", that she doesn't want a "junkie" etc etc. My dad has said not one word about it. My boyfriend said he loves how I'm embracing my natural beauty. Its gotten to the point that my cousin suggested getting my hair done by someone (cause I retwisted my own locs until today), my mom said it doesn't suit me and it's ruining my beauty, my brother said it didn't look good in its current state (I was in between the time for a retwist so my roots were pretty frizzy) just all kinds of stuff. And I live at home so it's a headache to hear all of it, especially unprovoked. I literally just be minding my business. I kept my hair covered and not really talk about it until I got my retwist today. Still wearing a bonnet because I don't want to suddenly hear from my mom how "nice" it is after she made a whole scene over nothing. Stand behind that journey and stay true to yourself queen.
I had the same issue with my Haitian family. I'm going on 7 years in October and let me tell you, I changed the mindset of a lot of my family. They love my hair now and I feel like I created a movement with my nieces/nephews with their LOC journey (side note: their parents hated the thought of locs). I'm proud of my hair, the feeling of confidence I get when I see myself in the mirror is everything. Don't mind the naysayers they'll be just fine, they might surprise you and join you in their own journey.
Our community is still brainwashed to wrap ourselves in nice neat packages to prove we are worthy of value. We haven’t accepted all parts of ourselves and all the ways we can look as well as the unique way our hair grows. I’m a rewister but you make me want to freeform.
I'm glad you brought this up. I have an afro right now and I'm letting it grow. Black people are the only people that ask things like "when are you going to get your hair cut" or "when do you plan on getting your hair done"? Little do they know my afro takes a lot of work each morning for me to fluff it up and make it evenly shaped. I despise those comments coming from my own people because it tells me they have been brainwashed to fear their natural hair texture.
omg SAME. i dont get asked those questions but instead joked on. I get some compliments now because its longer but when it was twa I felt insecure going to school because of all the rude comments and looks I got and would get from MY OWN PEOPLE. And your right, as someone who has their hair in an afro majority of the time it takes so long to pick it out to the right shape, I cant wait till its long enough to where I can just use my hands to fluff it out lol. but I did not do all this work for it to be done just for another black person to say its not cause it aint in a tight ass slick back ponytail with my edges laid and hair defined. 🙄
Keep doing you!😇 keep loving yourself!
Because black people are black people’s own enemies. Other races tend to be curious about black hair, (sure, some tend to be against it, but keyword some.) but a LOT of black people hate black hair. You’ll see the usual rhetoric, “nappy” “n*** hair” etc FROM black people. Why? It’s annoying as fuck to me. People like to point fingers at other races but honestly? I’ve seen and heard more hate towards black hair more so from black people than I have any other race.
I am glad you pointed out that sometimes depression can affect the way we care for ourselves . That’s why it’s never a good thing to judge people .Were not all in same boat .
No, we're all in the same boat but people are insecure, and lack empathy. They forget "There for the grace of God go I".
yup, and depression shows up different for people.
I had unlearn the idea that stripping my skin and scalp with these soaps(many of which are classified as detergents) meant clean. They strip your skin’s microbiome every time you take a shower.
exactly! and I learned that stripping my skin of those oils means more problem for me
Shay what you use to cleanse your skin?
@@quelquun2018 I use gentle all natural soap and I don’t use rough physical exfoliators on my skin like plastic exfoliating wash cloths or gloves.
@@quelquun2018 there a surfactants that aren't detergents. E.g. the Dove soap
@@shayjoe7303 what’s the name of the soap? I use black soap on my skin but it’s very drying
I wish people online and in rl understood that what works for you works for you. My hair is 4c+, not locd, but these gurus have these prolonged azz regimens, which causes build-up for my hair. Once I reduced and threw away and kept it simple to wash every two weeks with light oils and creams, my hair had no build-up. Also, people are weird; I have seen your videos, and your hair is always clean. I don't see flakes or anything growing from bacteria or fungi. It's all a colonial mindset. I've worked on unlearning the bs (working progress), and if there is nothing nice to say, people should fix their mouths and hush.
lol!! 4c+ is such a great name and yes youre right, the times when my head is doing bad is when im trying too many things. I think its important to know what it is exactly that we need.
and yeah youre right, I dont have any flakes but when I used to use shampoo and conditioner I definitely did. its difficult unlearning these things but seeing comments like yours makes me feel affirmed.
You are right. These regimens are causing so much build up. I am just realizing that is what was causing me problems all these years. I just use conditioner, shampoo, and a grease. I use the conditioner to detangle dry hair BEFORE shampooing so I don't have too much buildup.
My total number of hair products I use is not more than 3. Im locd and my hair is thriving. I don’t believe the lies anymore
My hair grew the most during the pandemic while studying for finals. I full on neglected it and expected it to fall off. Now when black women ask me what I do to grow my hair so long I just say: keep it moisturised, no heat and treat it with love and kindness. When it comes to black hair beauty is NOT pain
I had freeform locs down to my knees. I caught hell in the worse way!!! I even got put out of a school because it. I had a Rasta background, so I’ve always saw that it was purity and beautiful to have free forms as it represented that you weren’t a part of the this “world.” You look beautiful and regal! Stay blessed!
I always get compliments from people who twist their locs, they say my hair is so healthy and thick. I started my freeform journey knowing I didn’t want someone putting a bunch of boxes on my scalp and I’m glad.
When my hair was shorter, I remember when people (our people) used to put their hands in my head and say stuff like, "you need to put something on it cuz it's dry". Meanwhile, my hair saw water every morning. NOW that my hair is longer, they're asking what I put in my hair so that I can help them grow their hair. I tell them I put juices and berries in it😂. I honestly feel like "dry" was coded language since I wasn't rocking twist out fros at the time, and even if I did a twist out, it wasn't the gel slicked 3b look. Just regular degular 4c hair.
Preach sis! I own a bottle of Jamaica Mango and Lime shampoo. It sits here with dust on it lol. I water-wash in the shower or I mix aloe and cucumber and coconut oil to wash my hair with. My mother don't attack my hair no more but when she did I said things like "but it is healthy and that's the point", or "well it is thick though". And that shut her up lol. The whole deal with shaming people for not combing their hair and acting like they have been saved by Jesus with a retwist gets on my nerves too.
YUPPP!!! and them shampoo bottles do collect dust LOL
"acting like they have been saved by Jesus with a retwist" HAHAHA !!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This brings up something that’s been bothering me lately about the move away from the natural hair movement. I know a lot of people are getting away because they just think it takes too much time and their hair never got to be healthy and full like the UA-cam girlies but something I don’t think we’re talking about enough is where the natural hair movement started and where it’s gone. Early Natural Hair UA-cam and blogs were full of sustainable DIYs - homemade oil blends, raw Shea butter, aloe juice, apple cider vinegar, clay washes. Now all of those things are used as marketing buzz words on a series of 5 products the company tells you have to be used together to see results from. The early movement upheld less is more and now it’s just as congested as all other hair care.
Keep dismantling anti-blackness because I hate to see it. That guy at the barbershop sounds like an attention-seeking idiot. You have to be an incredibly miserable person to go out of your way to demean someone. Your locs are absolutely gorgeous and so are you!!!
true! thank u for the love!
@@mayowasworld You’re welcome!
Right
I have started taking an extremely low maintenance approach to my locs and my scalp has thanked me immensely! Seeing a loctitian a few times a year had my scalp feeling itchy and dry and not good. My hair was pulled and twisted thinner, but now that I've stepped away, I can see the toxic nature of the "natural" hair community. I use the dr. bronner shampoo and sometimes use black castor oil. I use black soap on my body, but now I want to try black soap on my head too. Black people have not tackled the anti black rhetoric when it comes to our hair and I am so over it.
I did the same, I love the Dr.Bronner Peppermint Shampoo it keeps my scalp feeling refreshed & smells great
I thought I was the only one! It works so well and is multipurpose some love it!
Just to be fair some hair IS dirty-with the white flakes and pungent smells… anybodys hair CAN be dirty not just kinky hair …anybody!!
ISN’T IS CRAZY HOW BM SAY THEY WANT US TO BE NATURAL & WEAR OUR HAIR. THEN WE WEAR OUR HAIR & BM STILL TALK DOWN ON US SMH .
These people just want to make money. Nappy life happy life. I have more hours in my day not worrying about how my hair is going to look or de-tangling so much my coils look way better the less I manipulate my hair.
this part!
“Sometimes it don’t make no sense…“🎶 🎼 🎵
I think all forms of locs and natural hair is beautiful. I don't like the shade that comes from people who choose different ways to loc. I have diy mico small locs and if I say I need a tightening, it's MY form of SELF CARE. Standing in the mirror interlocking, touching my curls, seeing my scalp ect. It's the same feeling I got as a little girl when my mama would do my hair, braid, twist and/or put in fresh poppers and barrets and so on. It's okay to be different and leave others alone. My edges are full and turning amazingly grey. I interlock when I feel like I need it, I won't let anyone shame me for doing so. At the end of the day all locs no matter how big, small, flat, round, short, long, thick, thin are just an accumulation of knots, shed hair, dead skin cells and lint. That's it, that's all.
School is in session🤓 📝
Thank you for talking about this. When I started my locs, I didn’t and still don’t interlock until I feel comfortable doing so… it is not depression. I don’t lay my edges or pull my edges into my locs like I’ve seen some do.
People look at me crazy when I tell them that I don’t use products, and then they try to lean in or do “subtle” movements to see if they can “smell” you. 🙄
I've been loc'd 6 weeks.
I want to use NO products other than shampoo now & then.
But I can't find anyone online who has done this.
How long have you been loc'd & exactly what products do you use on your locs ❓️
Dude that is so gross! People have no class, trying to smell you! Why can't everyone just mind their own business!
🤯 that's maddening
@@prissymcc I can recommend youtube channels. You only need shampoo to loc and I've been doing it for awhile now
@@phonelawless9205
Please recommend some yt channels🙏🏽🙏🏽
i love you hair! and wow thank you for pulling out the internalized and socialies anti-blackness elements. i too use black soap and gentle moisturizers and ACV every 3 months or so cuz too much ACV dried me out. im a freeform bish too. much love!!
You couldn’t have addressed this any better. It’s society hierarchy. Someone has to be the unacceptable to feel better about one selves. This is a good educational video for those who don’t know. I’ve thought of getting locs and I’ve done A TON of research, so it’s beautiful that you’ve decided to share these thoughts. It’s this need to be PERFECT, and look conventionally attractive. Anything unconventional is scary.
I have a lot of coworkers from Cameroon and when decided to loc my already long 3c hair they constantly said things like “you ruined all that pretty long hair”
According to them I look like a crazy or homeless person because apparently in Cameroon when you see someone with locs it’s a sign of depression and or homelessness.
It didn’t necessarily hurt my feelings, but it did make me angry. I found myself feeling not quite as confident because all of sudden people felt they had the right to basically trash my appearance.
I 100% understand where you’re coming from, after reflecting on those situations I came to the realization, that those same people who were putting me down were the same ones who constantly wore weaves and wigs. Their dislike towards my natural hair is only a reflection of their own self hate.
I can totally understand your frustration in attempting to love yourself while battling other peoples insecurities. Self love is journey that isn’t always easy. I have to work on quieting the world and staying true to who I am on a daily basis.
Thank you for sharing your truth.
God bless!
I love your hair and your eye makeup. Don’t let other people’s thoughts get to you.
I get what you are saying but some of the examples you used are from stylists who specifically detangle matted hair for ppl who were going through a tough time or depression or etc. some of the examples you used was of actual matted hair, aka Love 518. There is a difference between freeform locs and matted hair. Free form locs happens by choice but the ppl who come to Love 518 have matted hair not by choice but cuz of hardships. Just clarifying because the woman behind Love 518 has a really pure heart and it’s her mission to help those who come to her specifically to get their hair combed through.
hmm to some degree I dont think there is a difference between freeform locs and matted hair, I think it depends on the person. I understand on her page she's doing hair for people who are going through depression, and she seems like someone who is doing work with care in mind but I still feel that the comments people leave under the video can sometimes be anti black and offensive to people with freeform. take for example the person who wrote "how can someone let themselves go this far" that could / has been said about my hair type.
The comments definitely don’t always pass the vibe check but Love 518 pushes to not have judgment. She also does hair for ppl of all races, some of her clients are white. But what I meant by freeform vs matted is that these ppl did not go into this willingly wanting their hair to do this, it wasn’t a choice they made. It was a product of circumstances. It seems like ppl who have freeform locs WANT freeform locs. Which I’m thankful to your channel cuz before it, I didn’t even know what freeform locs were and I have grown to really appreciate this decision many ppl make. But the point is it’s a decision that was made. The ppl who go to Love 518 didn’t have that choice, it just happened due to different reasons. I really hope ppl can better understand that distinction and hopefully channels like yours will continue to bring awareness to this way of having hair that has very significant roots. Funny how I came across your channel around the same time I started diving into Yoruba ideology and culture and learning about our ancestors. With hair being so valued by our ancestors as an extension of your nervous system and thus your being, freeform locs are a beautiful visual extension of your being. Also even tho I don’t have locs, you have inspired me to embrace my hair (natural, big chopped 6 months ago) in its non defined state. I wish type 4 hair wasn’t always forced into this box of having to have super gelled defined curls. Our hair is beautiful in all it’s natural states, whether it’s free fluff (what I call my non defined coils) or freeform locs (evidence that type 4 hair strands are stronger together). Thank you for having this platform and just bringing awareness like you do. ❤️
@@marajones1828 yeah the woman herself seems like she has a big heart. and aww this message makes me happy, im glad my channel aligned with this journey for yourself! and I think type 4 hair is so beautiful in its most natural state, so im glad you enjoy watching my content :)
@@marajones1828 I also hope your connection to yoruba culture and to ancestral wisdom is going well for you too
There is absolutely a lot of shame and judgment around free-form locs, particularly 4c free-form locs. It's sad that our society shames people for the way hair grows naturally out of the scalp. Absolutely deplorable. I absolutely love your channel btw! New sub for sure! 🙌🏾
You just taught me something. Thanks for calling out a prejudice that lived lurking in my subconscious to the front so that I can grow and be a better person. I’m all natural and have been for most of my life. But I never really thought about free form locks.
Now I have a jumping point to dive into the history and gain an understanding of the history and beauty of this process. 🥰
At one point I tried freeform locs but I realized it wasn't for me. But I think yours is beautiful. I don't use store brought things. I make everything myself.
ur hair is getting so long, and it's super full i love it! i recently cut my traditional/manicured locs and if i ever did it again i would probably be more semi freeform.
I’m semi free form (7 months this month😇) but I don’t touch my hair at all, I don’t like how retwists and palm rolling make the locs thin as hell. I wanted my locs to be super thick at some point kinda like Lauryn Hill’s when she first started out so I decided semi free form would be the best way to go. The amount of times I’ve heard from my family and others “what’s going on with ya hair” “you need a retwist” I don’t need shhhhhh but to stay black and die. I KNOW WHAT IMMMM DOING WITH MY HAIR!😂 and I still use the same two products when I was a loose natural cause my hair is already so sensitive I really don’t like to stress it out too much
Yh Lauren’s hair back then was amazing I’m striving for my locs to look that too
YASSS!!! I'm a minimalist natural- I listen to my hair and scalp to establish what it needs. As Black people; we are still healing our minds from many oppressive structures and unfortunately, we are still struggling with who we are naturally. So seeing you live in your authenticity makes people uncomfortable.
It makes sense that you wouldn't want that, since I feel like all those extra products would build up in your hair. I use products so I use shampoo and conditioner like 2x monthly, but nothing to harsh. for me personally apple cider vinegar and black soap ended up being very strong for me , but that was just me. I wish people would just enjoy the things that work for them and see what else is out there without judgement.
Love the take. I have manicured locs that I retwist every 4 weeks because if I don’t, those locked ropes will literally grow off my scalp so I have to make sure my hairs stay integrated. Pushing out retwists with my kind of hair just wasn’t working even when the internet was telling me that’s what was “healthy” for your roots. That being said, I use pretty much the exact same things you do for my hair, but I shampoo with Castile soap biweekly to avoid scalp dermatitis. I use the exact same soap to clean my body. If it isn’t nuts and berries and very light, I don’t put it in my hair because it’s going to make my hair CHRONICALLY dirty. That’s the irony of all these conventional “products”, they’re filled with so much extra stuff that in matted hair it actually makes your hair gross, heavy, and sticky. People who have never had locs or experience with them don’t need to be handing out no kind of advice.
NOOOOOOO Black soap is more than enough of a cleanser!!! I personally cant stretch it longer than like once every week or so, but thats bc my scalp builds up and becomes dry
I have locs btw. not freeform but not hugelt maintained either 💜apart from black soap and aloe juice I use a conditioner marketed as natural (lol) but it gives me moisture I need cuz I have bleached hair. doesnt build up either
U can use black soap on hair ??
@@Bb-jm6wx soap is soap and black soap is the most natural soap. I wouldn't use it unless you really need the clean. I have dry scalp so I try to leave my hair alone
I’m so glad you’re here, Mayowa. Your channel is a real gem.
This video was brilliant! I went natural 5 years ago and the attention and comments I get are ridiculous! Your comment, “Keep it to yourself!” as a response to the haters, really hit home. Well said!
I’m quick to tell someone to mind the business that pays them when it comes to commenting on my body. Your absolutely right, it’s never people going against societal norms telling people what to do. It’s the ones following societal “norms” telling people to just be like everybody else.
When stylists make negative comments about people's hair, they do it for business. If millions of black people suddenly realized they didn't need to go to a salon or barber every week to get their hair done, they'd be out of work.
Thanks for the tip on black soap. I've been using castile soap for several years, but I will look into black soap and coconut oil now and see if that works for me. Are all black soaps the same?
Love your channel! Keep up the great content!!!
I love the thickness of your hair
Lady your hair is "down by law". It's beautiful. Those people are just trying to be irritating. Self hate is alive an well. Your crown is simply stunning.
There is nothing more beautiful than living in your own truth. You go girl. You can't ever satisfy people. People need to realize we are all different.
This! I needed to sit back and unlearn this idea that not re-twisting hair is gross and depressing.
Thanks for talking about this especially the washing hair part cause that’s something I’ve had many disagreements about sadly.
Something similar happened to me. A Blk guy just pulls up beside me while I'm pumping gas and offers me services I didn't ask for and didn't appreciate him offering to me. And he offered it in a rude, unprofessional and shady way. I was thinking to myself, "Even if I wanted it done, I wouldn't let you do it. I'd give my money to someone else, b/c you are RUDE.". I didn't say that , of course. I just told him, "Thanks.", b/c I just wanted him to hurry up and drive away. Some people need to learn to mind their own business and leave people alone. If someone "needs" their hair done, you shouldn't walk up to them and tell them that. Especially, if you're not gonna do it for free.
This video really opened my eyes. B/c we ALL know the retwist culture can be damaging to us subconsciously. I wish there wasn’t such a divide in free form and traditional locs because it’s really tearing what’s supposed to be bringing us together. Personally, I prefer having no retwist than having one because it makes my hair look thicker. To answer one of your questions, I hate how people say I’m overdue for one because they don’t see it as an insult.
yuppp! I think people say those comments thinking their being helpful. and I wish there was a divide either, because we're all deciding to embrace our naturalness but I think people have lost the plot along the way.
Tbh im from portugal and theres is hugeeeeeee african community, and in that community there are alot of farays (mostly cape verdeans and guineans) (ppl with locs (we call locs in here rasta) and within that community theres not so much of this, in fact most people with rastas dont have their scalps showing and theres no discourse on that
I think that locks twisting is sort of a resitance of the perm mentality, the "good hair VS bad hair" fight, the plantation state of mind.
12:05-12:21 Wait…but doesn’t that only apply to the individual who said that? One person saying that they didn’t get a re-twist in 5 months does not mean that they’re calling you, someone who is doing something with your hair, “unkept.” This is just like the White person washing their hair daily vs the Black person who washes their hair once a week. If a White person says “ugh I haven’t washed my hair in 2 days it’s so greasy,” that isn’t them saying that their Black friend’s day 5 hair is dirty. They have 2 different hair types and routines. Respect both.
It’s the expectation and unspoken standard
That “not getting retwist” means “unkept “ “dirty”
That not getting a rewist is the same as having “bad” or “ undone” hair
I love how open you are about your feelings and how you exspress your emotions and work through your feelings
I have been natural my whole life. I use shampoo and conditioner. There is nothing wrong with conventional shampoos and conditioners and there are a lot of misconceptions.
Just because a shampoo or conditioner irritates your scalp or weighs down your hair, it doesn't mean it's a disfunction of the products. It can be 1. User error 2. Ingredients that you are allergic to. They are a million shampoo and conditioners to try instead.
Scalp is skin, and if you can use soap on your skin, you can use a shampoo (which tends to have fewer surfactants/detergents anyway) on your hair and scalp. The hair/scalp picks up dirt, dust, debris, dead skin cells, and oil and surfactants ARE required to truly REMOVE them. Apple Cider Vinegar is not a surfactant, doesn’t have surfactants, and can keep the cuticle closed and resistant to water.
With thick/freeform locs, you need to diligently rinse shampoo and conditioner out. Having *any* left on the scalp can cause irritation. And conditioner needs to be 1. Thin with limited oils or butters and/or 2. Thinned out with water to ensure it can be thoroughly rinsed out. Lastly, hair that doesn't get washed with shampoo is likely dehydrated, and the product can sit on the hair. And yes, hair that is dehydrated can look like it has no curl...but it is just dry. Softening emollients and moisture (aka hydration) are different. If you can't get water into the strands, your curl pattern, no matter what size, will not show.
Generally, my issue with statements like "This doesn't work for me" is usually people not knowing what or how to do something in the ideal way. Where did you learn? Who taught you? Whose opinion do you value, and why?
People should not be cruel, but it's important to acknowledge that the people saying things are supported by chemistry and working on many heads of hair. We have unique heads of hair, but haircare isn't as individual as people make it out to be
I get what you're saying. But no I gave up regular shampoo and my scalp doesn't itch like before. Shampoo inflames some ppls hair
No, it's individual. You're talking about trying about a hundred products of which most cost about $100+
Not to mention the plastic waste, the fact that you're not going to finish the products you're allergic to
When people say, " this doesn't work for me," it's their experience with that thing. You can't just nullify their opinions just bcze they aren't a chemist. It's like dating someone and then you realize they're toxic for you so you want leave but then you're friends and family are like, no, you don't know what you're talking about when you're the one dating the person
But I digress. Stop the cap
You missed one of the major points of this video 💀
@Katso Lejuta well I wholly agree with everything she said about locs and how people turn their nose at freeform, new growth etc. so I never felt the need to address it.
But cleansing is a whole other thing
@👑Christabel so if you need a soap with sulfates to cleanse your body (that also has hair, by the way) and it irritates you, would you stop using soap altogether or just find one that works? Do you even question the need for sulfates in your body cleansers like you might for your hair?
Saponified oil soaps like Black Soap for example are not PH balanced and not good for the skin or hair and that's why many people find them drying...but some folks are willing to keep trying them plus countless other "natural" items...because some people equate "natural" = better/safer. That is a misconception. Ingredients in their raw form can be irritating, drying, trigger allergic reactions, permanently damage the hair, and even cause blindness. I just had a terrible reaction cutting Okra this week, for example.
There are sulfates that are stronger, some that are milder. If you regularly use water soluble products, you don't need to use a stripping shampoo often. If you have hard water, you do need to use a chelating shampoo at least sometimes. As I said, user error, lack of understanding of ingredients, and PH balance is a much, much, MUCH bigger issue than allergies.
If you were allergic to all these ingredients in shampoos/conditioner, you would have known a LONG time ago because they are in a plethora of beauty products.
Luckily it seems like a growing number of ppl in the majority Black loc groups on Fb who's posting stuff like "I hate seeing my parts. love going as long as possible between retwists" or doing styles like wicks going totally against the grain and more Black celebrities freeforming. I been using Aleppo soap on my hair lately, but before that I'd get shampoo from Lush or something cuz regular shampoo'll coat your hair with wax. Def made a point to steer clear of that at all costs! And grapeseed oil to moisturize for low porosity, but all i've got on me atm is coconut. Also, I wash my hair every 1-2 weeks before and after locking like any Black person - nothing dirty about it, coarser hair textures just take longer to have a buildup of oil.
How can someone take it upon themselves to become the expert on other people's hair? Do you girl, your hair is beautiful ❤️❤️
Had locs for 8 years-waist length , cut out conditioner early and it was the best decision ever. Shampoo and olive oil with rosemary was what worked. The less I did the more my hair flourished
Truths 💯, some people are so quick to judge which is so sad 😞. Everyone has their own journey, which makes it unique. Your free form locs are gorgeous, thick and healthy 😍. Continue to do yo thang!
Not to mention that shampoo is generally pretty new, for everyone and conditioner (let me not even start). And when I tell you my natural very 4c hair is doing so sooooo much better since I started using the most basic of bar soap, equivalent to USD 20cents, and stopped using shampoo! There's something also to be said about how all this stuff is expensive.... and who it leaves out because it is so expensive, you know?
NOT THE CREDIT SCORE 😩😩😫😫🤣🤣🤣 I died.
I was free forming for a while and was shamed back into retwisting. And now I’m upset with myself because the whole point of getting locs was to move away from western forms of hair styling - which for Black folks means lots of product and time being wasted. I’m getting my confidence back and washing every two weeks with just black soap and a gentle retweet without gel, then a daily spritz with water.
I feel for you because the shaming is real, it makes you wanna quit. but im glad youre able to find a routine for yourself thats making you feel more affirmed.
Hello Beautiful. Thank you for your commentary. You are too far ahead of your time! When I first saw you honestly all I saw was look how thick and full her hair is. It’s gorgeous. I was contemplating letting my hair free form. Then I came to realization the my hair will probably not look like yours. Also, I am still transitioning from being anti black. However people like you held space for me and now I just began my loc journey. However, I am currently working to keep my hands out my hair! Don’t know if I will ever get to free form but I’m learning just how beautiful our 4C hair is. So I’m saying this to say your hair is beautiful. You are right. Don’t listen to our more ignorant brothers and sisters. They will have to get to it when they do. Keep being gorgeous and providing us wisdom!! I love it. I was snapping my fingers all thru this commentary❤😂♥️💛🩵
I get comments about how my hair doesn't hang down my back. I literally stop the ignorance in it's tracks. Let the uneducated haters know that my 4C hair isn't meant to grow that way. What matters is the condition of my hair. My hair is healthy, thick, and growing. If you don't like it,, bye!
exactly!
I love your content ! Don't stop educating these folks outchea 😂
How can your hair be dirty if you admittedly cleanse your hair with black soap? Some people may think my hair is dirty because I use co-washes (conditioning cleansers) much more often than I use shampoos. 💜
How’s proper hygiene affiliated with anti-blackness?
Exactly!!👏🏿👍🏾💯
It’s crazy because I finally finally let someone touch my hair (I’ve been growing my locs myself for just 1.5 years now) . I went to a salon yesterday for the first time to get a professional retwist and I literally HATE THE LOOK OF A FRESH RETWIST. I keep saying it looks “too clean” 😭😂 I prefer a bit of kinky rootage (not a word) lol .
These people are confused getting locs but ultimately having a problem with their Black features n textures .
I absolutely LOVE your hair, I decided to take the semi Freeform loc journey. I’m super excited to embrace my natural hair without adding to it. Do you sis!!! You’re BEAUTIFUL 😍
In the Caribbean it's normal to see free form locks
I’m late but, please don’t let others persuade you with their foolishness!
Do what works for you, love! I absolutely love your hair. You are uniquely you and no one else can touch that!
I love your unique beauty! You are gorgeous and so is your hair. It takes courage and a thick skin to go again the
grain or machine if you will! Thank you for taking time to educate people. Keep being you, Queen!🫂💞😍🤩
I wear twists (added hair) and I remember when I went to college a lot of non-black folk was curious about how I clean my hair or how it gets clean. I remember telling them, "in a shower". And they were like how does the water reach the hair and your scalp if it is in twists....I went to a top 10 engineering school in the US and these ppl were EE/CS majors the "brightest" from the country asking stupid ass questions like that. It is so ignorant ppl view black hairstyles in general as "dirty", and I know it's the worst with freeform locs.
It's insane bc non-blk ppl can roll out the bed w/a birdnest on their head and NO ONE questions their cleanliness but we do the most w/our hair becoming part-time chemists with these damn ACV rinses and still get scrutinized.
yuppp I feel like the fetishization of 'cleanliness' is rooted in anti blackness because black people have always been heavily questioned on how we clean ourselves. and I think this same logic falls heaviest on people with freeform locs because from a western stand point its associated with being untidy
LMAOOOO YESSS ABOUT THE PART TIME CHEMIST!!! LIKE!! someone wrote me saying I just need to understand the science of shampoo and the equations to use and im like nahh thats already doing too much. I didnt sign up to me a scientist, I just want to feel good lol
I just love what you do! Your voice is so important for our people!
I’m a semi-free former of 4 years, probably will retwist once or twice a year and I love it. I wash and condition my hair every week or two depending on how bad I need it. I love the fact that I can just get up & go without having to worry about my hair. My hair is definitely well taken care of, regardless of me not retwisting. Thankfully, I receive more positive comments than rude. I honestly love my hair & starting locs was the best hair decision I ever made. There’s nothing anyone could say to make me feel differently. F* the haters tho, your hair is awesome love 🫶🏾❣️
Girl you are so right! I enjoy watching and learning about other hair types and I've seen many of these loc videos. I never realized how this could affect people.
People attaching labels like dirty to Natural hair in its natural state is so wrong. That's like saying all of their ancestors were dirty and unkempt back before they had these new products smh.
My locs are the TOTAL opposite than yours, but my scalp sounds exactly like yours. Recently, I fell into the same trap of going back to traditional shampoo and conditioner after finally realizing that my scalp does NOT want it. After washing my locs and scalp a couple of months ago with the traditional stuff, Immediately my scalp was like WTF are you doing???!! Didn't I tell you after 5 decades I don't want that on me??!! We have to listen to our scalps and hair. As alluded to above, My locs are not freeform (not because I don't want them either. my hair does not want them as I have very fine thin strands). I can only use ACV to wash my scalp.
Sadly, I've gotten a lot that same ish from freeformers in the past saying that my locs are not locs. Why are we so critical of how we were our hair naturally??? Shouldn't they be glad that we are wearing and embracing our natural hair??? It's a proven fact that all of our hair is not the same, so why in the hell are we supposed to take care of it and wear it in the same way??? Omg, this crap gets on my nerves!
yessss I agree with you! I feel like there is a shame to admitting that this traditional shampoos dont work. my scalp is so sensitive and can't handle a lot of things in/on it. acv is the only thing that works for me too
Missed youuuuuu. Literally recommended like 10 people to your channel already lol love it here
Not on locs but i use herbal black soap with ACV too...As far as I am concerned it is better than "modern shampoo".👌🏽😁🌱❤️
Thank you for talking about this. I learn so much from you and guurl you look amazing.
There’s definitely an ongoing problem with how we present ourselves without us not realizing we’re all looked at in the same way by other communities. I’m a loose natural and of my one sons is semi-freeform and the other is manicured locs. We all mind our own business and don’t advise the other on hair care. Simple
Ian gone lie I love your channel so much, I wouldn’t mind restructuring my channels this way.
This was a load of cognitive dissonance, deflecting, and INSECURITY. Do what you want. But not detangling and washing your hair for years is never going to be ideal or clean to everybody. THAT INCLUDES BLQUE PPL. But good luck on your journey with that more than condescending attitude. BE BLESSED!
But they just said they do wash their hair they just don't comb it.
@@phonelawless9205 I just said that you can do as you please. Not doing or fully embracing what you do with your locs is not anti blque.🙄 There are ppl with different scalp conditions that require deep washes and conditioning with medications prescribed by a dermatologist. IS THAT ANTI BLQUE NOW?!🙄 Ppl work in medical fields that are in surgery or dealing with sick ppl all day. DO YOU THINKS IT'S IDEAL FOR THEM NOT TO THOROUGHLY CLEANSE AND DETANGLE THEIR HAIR IN THOSE PROFESSIONS?! What she does is not ideal for ppl who like and want good hygiene. BFFR!
@@sjlewis271 rigth they act like African views on hair should be non hygienic or outdated. It couldn't be farther from the truth 4c hair is just hair and scalp is just hair. Putting mango juice in your hair or rinsing it with onion water wont do anything nor clean that's like taking a shower with food and saying it's better for your skin and body hair. Then using honey as lotion. It's not pracrical nor hygenic.
Clearly you didn't watch the video because she stated she washes her hair with black soap
My love are manicured but only when I feel like it! I love free form locs on others I just haven’t tried it myself. As long as locs are natural Im here for it!!! You and your hair are amazing.
I have sisterlocks, perhaps the most manicured locs out there and we’re not supposed to use traditional shampoo. My loctician and I laugh at Instagram with all the crazy shit people do with their hair when they don’t have to.
What an amazing perspective! So on point is so sad that every “natural hair” movement keep moving away from natural and minimalism!
"Everything I put in my hair I wanna also be able to eat it " Love that ! I washed my hair with eggs recently _a bunch coz my hair is thick lol_ instead of shampoo coz shampoos appearently strips all the healthy oils produced, and my hair was as healthy if not healthier, so u by saying that, definitely makes want to try more natural methods for my hair. U're Amazing and u look stunning and so does ur hair 👌🏽💖
Eggs don’t clean hair tho???
@@rache5149 it does but I do add few drops of lemon juice to strip the unpleasant smell of the egg
Eggs? I-…..ok
@@nizbet5707 Do I need to guess what u wanted to say ?
@@nizbet5707 people in the 19 century used to wash their hair with eggs 🤷🏾♀️
Bless you girl. Not all produces are good for everyone. Lets respect each other❤
Why are people with a different types of locs attacking each other and you're liking their comment? I thought you were for people doing what they want with their natural hair. Are you holding free-form locs superior to other locs? That's so judgemental and hypocritical of you to be crying about how people treat you when you're doing it right back. All locks are beautiful. All locs has a certain routine that should be respected. Come on don't be mean.
If anyone reading this and feel a type of way because of this youtuber, their comment section, or your family. Your loc is beautiful. Her locs are beautiful but don't sub to someone who believes your locs are trash because it's not free form or you don't have 'real' locs. Do you.
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Exactly. I agree with you. I dont get it either. You cant on one hand say do what works for you then on another talk stuff about people who choose to retwist on a schedule. Some folks are acting like if you use shampoo and retwist your locs on a schedule you dont love your hair, you dont have "true" locs or youre somehow antiblack. It just doesnt make any sense. I mean I do not like going any longer than 2 months without a retwist does that mean my locs arent beautiful/I somehow dislike my hair or blackness? Geez!
I keep coming back to your UA-cam-- its comforting to hear the things I try to explain to my family. Not even just hair but touching on colorism and etc. I hope to learn from you as well though. Finally subscribed.
No, ur hair does not look dirty, u can see dirt. Ur hair looks clean and healthy. And furthermore, these shampoo's are sus. Kudos to u sis
I love your hair . I’m obsessed with you.
You holding that mic, always gets me 🤣
lol! I wanted to make sure I was listened to loud n clear
Im in the starting process of my loc journey, started with 2 strand twist. I always knew i wanted something to start with as far as some kind of parting system but i wasn't too concerned about it being manicured or perfect or so called clean, i was ok with & actually preferred having locs that might be different in sizes or shapes, i love when some are pointing up while others point down, & then having random ones going to the sides. I did think id semi freeform to a degress just to keep some kinda parts but i actually don't like the tight retwist look with skinny roots showing straight up scalp with frizzy ends. I dont hate on it but i rather my parts not be visible but there, so im gonna see what happens down the line, right now when i retwist i dont use clip's its not to get or keep tight roots, i twist just to keep parts but let my roots breath no restrictions.
I do love locs of all kinds but i do love more naturally individually expressive looking locs. Retwisted looks takes away from the individuality that comes with having more unmanicured looking locs. Im not a hater at all but right after i aee people with they retwist where they scalp is just so visible it turns my attention from how their locs looks to how white they scalp is, but when they retwist look fades after a few weeks & it starts to expand at the root thats when i think it looks the best.
Right now as far as cleaning i do use shampoox mostly more natural based tho, i don't want to conditioner much of at all because its too thick, but ill use oils & essential oils to condition my hair.
Aleo everyone is different as far as what works for hair washing guidelines. I know some people can go a month or more i certainly cannot go long with hair washing. For me i let my hair & scap decide it will let me know. But if my scalp is itching ima wash it.
But i agree with this video 100%/, its F'ed up that within the loc community manicured loc people feel the need to talk trash about free from & semi freeform people. Its clearly them pitting others down on a similar path just to make themselves feel better than or superior to. Having or going to a loctician, or regularly getting retwist & having a visible scalp does not make them better, or cleaner, or smarter, or superior, it doesn't mean their hair is healthier or that they are happier. Society still has not completely evolved enough to view people with locs as being just as valid as the whitewashed beauty standards of what is or looks professional. People who get their locs done or retwisted need to come down from that high horse & realize their retwist is still matted up Tangled hair that to most signal ugly the only difference some people see between freefrom & manicured locs is scalpy vs no scalp