This GM is a bit deceptive. Its pretty easy if you know the routes, spawns, and timing (specifically for baiting the shank section). The real trick is handling the overload rush at the end. Really easy to get overwhelmed there.
Re: Unbreakable 1. Thermite Grenades are currently bugged with Unbreakable. They instantly cap you out on damage without needing to block anything. Highest damage from just the blast itself seems to be ~64k, jumping up to ~128k with full Verity stacks. 2. If you use Pulse Grenade you can take advantage of both weaken grenades and jolting grenades depending on the situation and if you need easier overload stuns. 3. If you have Banner Shield equipped, Unbreakable can spawn 3 orbs when blocking damage. This isn't tied to Ursa Furiosa at all. Sentinel actually has a lot of perks that help fill out Unbreakable slightly more. Easier Devour procs, spawning 2x orbs on grenade kills (grenades weaken + killing weakened enemies spawns orb + Firepower). It's a lot of fun to run it with Ursa Furiosa and build myself as a protector/orb battery for the team. Just make sure to tell your team to use their damn supers and stop holding onto them for Frontiers! Prismatic can work, but I have to play it a bit differently. I usually use Unbreakable to push up to adds (or grab a revive) since it isn't going to OHKO champs and then use the Diamond Lances on the tougher targets. I like charging up a Thunderclap after freezing them. :) Another option is to run Unbreakable/Drengr's Lash and Abeyant Leap instead of a class item: unbreakable to push up, Thruster/Barricade to suspend anything left alive. You also get Woven Mail when you suspend things for better survivability since Prismatic lacks some. The roll I use in PvE Prismatic is Bear/Star-Eaters with Twilight Arsenal. Pvp is Bear/Armamentarium with Thermites for quick 185 damage and faster supers. People like to shoot your shield! :D I wish it had some sort of anti-champ synergy or some baked-in way to refund grenade energy though. :'( Different effects based on grenade element would have been neat too.
Let it be bugged then!!! Prismatic Titan is boo boo! I need something that can compete with these other classes that are just dominating rn lol. It’s so sad that my tank of a Titan got dumbed down to a marshmallow on the battlefield. WE FRIGGIN OWN THE BATTLEFIELD GOD DOG IT!!!
For that Titan build, use Armamentarium. Verity is not nearly as good as the original Armamentarium. It gives you an orb of power on every grenade kill and gives you 2 charges. With the right armor mod setup, you can spam the Unbreakable grenade instead of waiting constantly for it to recharge. Use buried bloodline to gain devour so you can push enemies and gain it back faster. Verity is simply not good enough. Bear is okay, but you don't need to worry about super energy that much, especially in a GM.
@@King_Midas_Touch well also he wasn't even using weapons to stun with. Like yes, sort of with barrier champs, but he should be stunning champs then blasting them with Unbreakable. You can get more damage for blocking, but if you just stun the champ then spam unbreakable on them, they should just die.
I discovered in testing with mothkeepers on prismatic at launch that the moths sometimes don’t give you ANY light energy on kills or damage which is possibly a bug but yes it’s a neat interaction on prismatic that it can proc jolt, blind, and volatile rounds all in one go, lots of fun and hopefully it gets addressed.
Ive been running my prismatic titan with Hazardous propulsion in the GMs.. once you have a champ stunned, if you can hit it with a full salvo you'll shred the majority of its health.. and because things are pretty tanky, you're landing constant precision hits to refill it. I use it with booster as well.. the emergency suspend tangle it drops has saved me countless times now.
I do love hazardous propulsion, the ONE thing I hate about it is that I just personally love exotics that help me with survivability. Damage comes second to survival to me, and I'm worried that I'll just get shredded and without any way of saving myself
@@JustAJauneArc I felt the same and leaned into being very safe in my subclass set up and have been doing solar titan with a healclip incan weapon along with dragon's breath and the call for the rocket synergies, plus bonk hammer and healing nades. Solar has a fragment that drastically reduces the class ability cd when scorching targets as well so you have pretty good uptime on spamming the exodus rockets.
This prismatic moth build is very close to what i've been using. It started with me falling in love with the Mothkeepers in the Strand build and then just leaving them on.
@telephones3 bloodline is already good for an extra devour source and it's weaken but vexcalibur and graviton would fit in well I use elsies rifle for repulsor and grenade recharge and leviathan breath for damage and unstop
its not better on void sadly bc you need to drop the double charge nade he didnt show it off but it has a crazy interaction since he has verity. and he completly used it wrong. i can consistently onetap the champs. YES i know it dosnt have overload coverage. i didnt really intend to use it only in gms. and there i want my mades to cover it.
@@panzerkitti1212 fair point but the crazy recharge rate with an overshield+devour+brave arsenal perk I've never missed the 2 nade charges I'll definitely have to look out for veritys damage buff tho
@@waifuskaijus6667 also bear stareater is a thing which goes crazy on the dmg part. you can change super at all time too but titan dosnt really have an option on prismatic. sadly titan is just bad prismatic. they couldnt give us banner of war.
I really hope they make prismatic Titan as good as warlock and hunter. Can’t believe the tanks of the battlefield got reduced down to pathetic marshmallows.. so sad bungie
Honestly, same. It just needs MORE. Lower cd, higher uptime. Honestly, maybe even grenade energy on hit, pair it with offensive bulwark, and it'll just be constant shields.
I wish the enemies would actually shoot the damn thing. 9/10 time it's just me looking stupid in my bubble grenade until the timer expires, just to get shit on right after. Like gimme a break man
@@mfyoutubewatcher9352I think if it pulled agro kinda like the hunters spector that would woupd make it a lot better. I think your right I saw multiple times where cross got very little damage out of it because no one attacked him.
The shield one looks fun… for lower content. The aspect was useful on the legend campaign, to close the gap to do melee stuff or survive making the overshield while blocking. But if they ever buff the damage further, it could get good.
Bruh the fact that I have this same exact setup with Mothkeepers and it was my first time using them and in GMs yesterday. The only thing I didn’t have was Buried Bloodline cause I don’t have it yet so I used an (Under-Over + Voltshot) Phyllotactic Spiral Pulse for Overloads and Barriers, and a (Headstone + Desperate Measures) Bold Endings. Most of the time, I’m using The Pulse Rifle and when I switch I’m already 3x Desperate Measures for Bold Endings. Use Dragon’s Breath to clean up adds, Champions, and help DPS the Big Vex Boss. It pairs very well with a Warlock using Speaker’s Sight. 😊
i was talking about this with the homies the other day but honestly i feel ike the next step for prismatic is allowing us to choose in between a prismatic melee or nade for transcendnence, because in a build like mothkeepers you basically lose your exotic when you go transcendant, which makes melee builds just even better for prismatic
cross ik that you are just following the build, but if you wanted to change it around, when it comes to using a darkness melee on prismatic hunter, I'd recommend threaded spike because 1. the tracking is really good 2. the richochet means you get a lot of darkness energy (same with withering blade but threaded spike feels a lot better) 3. you can keep it up really effectively if you can catch it, as long as you hit 5 or so enemies you can get the whole thing back, and if you only hit 1 or 2, it's pretty much half guaranteed. 4. it will create a tangle which can give you even more darkness energy. 5. if you're running facet of honor, it can give you even even more darkness energy (like 1 kill + breaking the tangle = maybe 15% of your darkness bar)
I’m not gonna say that Titan build would be amazing or even A-tier if used correctly but god damn it’s like he didn’t even use the build. Didn’t actually block much damage with it, just held it up and thought it would do damage by itself like an on-call nuke, didn’t use the grenade regen tools to use it more.
Apparently the bug with grenades on prismatic (according to other comments) is that the shield doesn't need to be charged, meaning that he's doing full damage. Any difference in numbers is probably due to the -20 power cap in GMs.
One because there’s almost no uptime for it with the build since he’s not getting devour a lot. Two because it’s hard to use in a Gm since you’re trying to block damage and get close where everything one shots you and three the damage and over shield isn’t worth you’re grenade
let me point you to 32:58 then. When he gets what you're asking for, taking a lot of damage and nuking someone with a WHOOPING 70k damage (lolwtf) then instantly dying afterwards because surprise surprise the easiest way to take damage is having enemies that are shooting at you. We also don't have a lot of grenade energy getting fed into this. Why should anyway be playing a dangerous play style like unbreakable when there are tons of weapons that can just sit back far enough and safe enough to just do that same damage?
@@TyeJak588he didn’t block almost anything. He ate some shots to the side, hobgoblin snipe also hit him in the side (mostly eaten by the void overshield). He didn’t get shot by the boss, a strand tangle was thrown in front of him. The shield only absorbed a couple of stray shots.
@@randomguy6092I don’t get the impression the aspect is meant for the damage it deals, nor does the build (despite the description saying it is). The build feels like it’s meant to soak up damage to build up super energy and this is one of the worst GM’s for that where ads are too spread out and generally everything is long range.
the best titan build ive been able to make is based off the original strand titan build from the beginning of lightfall. it uses abeyant leap to gain woven mail from suspending targets and a solar super to gain restoration from picking up orbs. the general gameplay loop is suspend enemies and consecrate them. if you use shackle grenades and drangers lash with the exotic you can pretty much keep everything around you suspended. if you need to recharge your abilities you go transendant and then even that grenade suspends. also running the combo of shackle grenades and consecration gets you your transendance back pretty quickly.
13:16 I thought we were about to hear Aztecross have a heated gamer moment, The shock on my face when I heard the Uncle Ruckus Theme followed by a zoom in on his face!
Maker of the titan build: “Btw use buried bloodline to weaken enemies before hitting them with unbreakable for max damage :))” Cross, proceeding to *not* use buried bloodline on any champions: “I hate you and I hate this.”
I mean you need to get devour with a kill on it in the first place which in a gm on this build is not gonna happen often enough for you to even get a weaken debuff on enemies.
The issue with unbreakable seems to be that sometimes enemies will just not hit you while you're guarding with it, which defeats the whole use of it. When you are able to get it ramped up with decent incoming damage, it puts out a nice amount of damage. The inconsistent nature of it makes it hard to use it looks like to me.
you can react to dmg with it. bait dmg with it it has a big skill celing. It wasnt fully fleshed out yet didnt upload the video guide with it yet so it got completly used wrongly. But its ok at least i raised avareness that this exists
@@loreseeker6604 sadly true. he should run with stareater for boss and drop verity overall. run another gm thats more ad dense and not just solved by outbreak. i love running dungeons with it -5 is where it thrives
@panzerkitti1212 verity might work but cross never even attempted to maximize its potential. He only bothered getting kills to proc it once amd didn't even get all five nor did he use further setup the damage by using facet of courage to further buff its damage. He really doesn't do a good job of testing builds like matics or plunder do. Matics will use the initial setup but do some testing to see if some tweaks are possible.....frankly your going to the main line youtubers like kakis or cross for unique builds 6our in the wrong 0pave my friend. Plunderthatbooty just released a titan build thst soloed the GM without an exotic class item or using a melee as the main aspect of the build.
@@loreseeker6604 jeah its mainstream and also the community votes which will vote for hunter all the time.- representing it THAT badly isnt making it justice. id rather have him show it off somewhere else and make awareness. now he just trashed it and 99% that watch it just go with it and say its trash i wont try. but when i get at least 10 people to try it they might find a new main setup if they tired of using conceration and love throwing axes. i will update the build and try to publish videos with it. i´m invested to give it a fair chance
I have been enjoying using moth keepers with tessalation. With the right setup you basically have infine charged shots from tessalation. The catalyst adds elemental effect so woth mothkeepers hour shot also blinds, though mist things will just die. Once your transcendent you get basically infinite grenade charge spam from the prismatic grenade. Its craxy fun snd very powerful.
I love Mothkeepers too but I think the only "problem" (not that big) I have with Transcendence on grenade focused builds like Mothkeepers or a Grapple melee Synthos build is that you can't really play within your builds theme once you're Transcendent because of it replacing your grenade. I love popping it for the increased ability regen and mostly the DR (damage boost is whatever) but hate that I can't really use it with builds that revolve around the reliable use of Grapple, Moth, or Duskfield. That said I would love to see a more Transcendent focused build to see how it holds up.
I actually really love the hunter moth built with stasis! The stasis hunter never really interested me but with its buffs and synergy it’s definitely one of my favorite builds now
I made the exact same titan build a few weeks ago but with second chance and a few different aspects, as well as bastion to cook Champs, it continues to cook in gm's Edit:unbreakable us really good at clearing out groups of beefy ads, then use bastion for Champs
The hunter is actually pretty solid. The moth grenades do way more damage then I thought they’d do, and my grenades recharge fast enough to where I can basically dish out Void Overshield whenever I want. Also being that I don’t have the Buried Bloodline, I’m using Telesto. So far it’s been pretty good.
I have only played Prismatic on Mothkeepers, got me through Leg Campaign, and played it on Arc last year, so glad to see it getting some love. Definitely agree it's hard to get the darkness side of Transcendence going, I've been using Winter's Shroud to combo my the Stasis melee and a Kinetic primary to charge both sides. Seeing the uptime does have me interested to try Gunpowder Gamble for content where you can't get close w/o dying tho.
I’ve been using Prismatic Titan with Skullfort, Shackle Grenade and Thunderclap. You powered melee final blow fully heals you, not to mention your grenade suspends them to make it easier to hit them with Thunderclap and I’ve been using Wish Keeper, with Indebted Kindness and Pro-Memoria
I haven't seen anyone use Doom Fang on Titan now that it can be used on prismatic to get any of those supers back faster. Also it gives bonus void damage to weapons which could be used with Graviton or Bloodline as well. This also plays well with Expanding Abyss.
I mean to be fair he wasn’t proccing devour half the time nor stacking verity. It’s a lot of hops to jump through to nuke a champ, to get x5 but he didn’t claim it was a champ killer either.
jeah arma is better still 2 blastss longer shielding 2x more super. i should have includet it i was about to make a build video and completly update it never thought id be featured in this week... he used it wrongly- but you can see you are a immovable tank when having it up and you throwback dmg isnt bad- it really thrives in -5 content where you have perma uptime on your rotations. but that really shows again how weak titan is whatever you do besides concecration or strand.-
I've also been using Mothkeeper's on prismatic and they do feel great. People are for sure sleeping on it - blind is great in hard content and jolt with it is awesome. I prefer threaded spike for the sever (though obviously slow has anti champ powers, so fair enough) and facet of sacrifice to help with the darkness meter. I found it built VERY fast with sacrifice on. Also don't have buried bloodline :( So was using the old school ex-diris with a bold endings with demo just to top off grenade. Could also go with The Call with demo and one for all to help with darkness meter, plus with unravelling rounds from bravery it has great damage. It's a pretty flexible build - there are a lot of options, particularly with guns. EDIT: plus, i finally paid attention to everyone saying learn to catch threaded spike, and very often you can have it ready to throw straight away again. It's very easy to do - you just have to pay attention and actually press the button.
18:52 he uses Thermite Grenades because they're currently bugged. You only have to hold the unbreakable shield for 1 sec or so to get the full charge damage.
hey guys thx for liking my build- the skill sealing on this is alot higher than it seems try it out and have sum fun not running concecration for the entire game
I'll be the first to admit I was not onboard with Unbreakable as well until I learned how to use it. Once it clicked I've had a hard time taking it off.
@@Odysseus123 strong agree iv been loving running it for anything. it nukes subjugators in raid or the few champs that are there. i reccomend on not using verity tho and consider stareater more and more. maybe even hotswap from time to time depending on what content. but chucking supers 24/7 having this nuke of a grenade replacement is so much more fun than concecration. and survivability is actually insane.
@@panzerkitti1212 Yea, I've got a HoIL/Star-Eater that pairs really well, but I'm hunting a HoIL/Arma one. I can get 4 Unbreakable blasts back to back with a Severance/Arma roll so I'm interested to see how HoIL might juice it.
I'm pretty sure the armamentarium build is almost used in a similar way osmiomancy does. I'd imagine throwing a thermite to prime, then using the second to charge in and blow up whatever is left. Then you'd just clear whatever is left.
As a moth hunter you should know that you don't actually need an Arc grenade equipped. You can definitely use grapple for a higher uptime as equipping mothkeepers automatically switches you equipped grenade into an Arc moth nade while still keeping the same uptime you would with grapple equipped. That is all.
Verity used to be pretty good on void warlock because if you built up stacks and charged up a chaos accelerant vortex grenade it basically did nova bomb damage as a grenade. I haven’t found it useful since that build, which was pretty good early on with void 3.0 launch. I tried to recreate it on prismatic with spirit of verity, but it didn’t seem as good as I remember. Verity + osmiomancy on warlock has potential, but I don’t have that roll
you can fix the trancendance meter on the first build by using Cataphract in stead of Edge Transit edit: and that might require a swap to a light Melee
I literally made a titan build that cooks. Eternal Warrior/ Star Eater. Blast furnance with firefly and microcosm as the heavy. Strand gernade and drengrs lash to lock down the room. And lastly mods to help feed back into my ability energy to have a consistent uptime for when i dont need my super. It's a juicer of a build that doesn't need consecration and i can play it safe from a distance.
You don't need to run Arcbolts to get the jolt on Mothkeepers, the moths count as an Arc grenades themselves so they get the benefit of the fragment regardless of the nade
Why did you not use buried bloodline as much for the titan build? The guy even gave you the order of operations to use it for proccing devour and weaken.
The gun powder gamble has a weird bug/glitch allowing you to throw multiple gables it’s crazy for demolitionist weapons such as lost signal, time your shots you just throw and throw with inmost light/coyote it’s wild how much things you’re throwing add transcendence and it gets wilder use threaded spike or shurikens and it’s just ability heaven
The Moth hunter build is great, i have a very similar one but with treaded specter instead of Stylish Ex so that fixed usualy the missing darkness transendence, and Ex Diris for extra moths and Void overshields wich btw give 50% DR.
I will say using unbreakable with void Titan has saved me a few times. The ursa build on void is the best “tank” fantasy build, besides stronghold. But then I used a void peregrine build and just wrecked ass on all those champs, though I had to be more cautious with the wyverns.
I could see a play for unbreakable as a weakening tool- get close to weaken (facet of dominance) with unbreakable blast then use thunderclap. Class item could be either bear, inmost, or assassins paired with contact or synthos
At first I believed prismatic titan would just be a better version of void titan, or at least have some heavy punch power. Now I have received ancestral knowledge from lord over-titan Aztecross that most everything on prismatic titan is worth half a wet fart, on top of having zero synergy. These are dark times indeed. Stay strong, Crayola consumers.
A nice buff for that new void aspect to make it better would be to make the blast after blocking either weaken or spread volatile. Also buff the damage by 20 percent like they did with consecration.
Cross is mainly spamming it as an offensive weapon, instead of saving it for the times he's one shot and could use the extra cover, while gaining super energy, I think that's why it's not so effective here(the aspect also just really needs a buff)
I like Unbreakable but I do wish they would just treat it like a Sword Guard in that you can guard with it at any time so long as you have above a minimum required energy, this wouldnt even break things considering Unbreakable's damage, energy use, and overshield gain are already based on how much ability energy you consume/damage blocked. Though other options would be having it give an extra grenade charge OR making it work off Melee energy and aspects instead so your melee has more use in content where its not always practical to use a melee ability but then you'd lose a lot of the synergies that come from being a Grenade Ability. It was also pretty funny watching Cross play like he wasnt in GM content on the Titan.
Lol I loved this GM because the Overloads would almost always teleport themselves off the map making it and easier run every time 😂 plus it’s funny when the AI just says nah fam I’m out 😂
You know I’m not a game dev but I think unbreakable should be like Athena’s ability from Borderlands the pre sequel and be tied to the melee rather than the grenade. If you’ve never played that borderlands the ability is basically the same as unbreakable but you use an actual shield (kinda like the titan melee) hence the “Athena” name and throw the shield that got powered up from the damage you absorbed. It’d be real nice if you didn’t have to give up your grenade to use this cool aspect. Maybe even let you use frenzied blade and get three charges of the absorb/shield throw. Just my 2 cents
As a titan, this build seems nice for super but that’s it, I’m getting back into destiny because of the final shape and may have to build something for you to try.
I'm 100% looking for Spirit of Inmost Light and Spirit of Verity/Armamentarium. Consecration build for endgame activities, but Unbreakable build for general play.
They should make unbreakable stun unstoppable champions. Its saint 14 themed i feel like it fits well. Would give void titan a really cool tool that differentiates it with the other void classes.
Honestly, Unbreakable is better on Void than it is on Prismatic. I have a support build that uses Unbreakable and Ursa Furiosa and it does surprisingly well. Did a test run on a Glassway GM run and made 99 orbs and only died to a stray Wyvern shot.
only prob with prism is you trancendence is kinda wasted you dont do anything with it since you cant use unbreakable when its active. which really bothert me but i still wanted to release it that way. including verity was a mistake tho. using arma/stareaters is way better. stareater for bossing and arma for general content
Prismatic Titan has some good builds, just need some imagination. Don’t build into the subclass itself, use it as a utility subclass. That will help you get more creative
The way he jumps around in GMs, I would've been dead 13 times already.
This GM is a bit deceptive. Its pretty easy if you know the routes, spawns, and timing (specifically for baiting the shank section).
The real trick is handling the overload rush at the end. Really easy to get overwhelmed there.
@@EATSxBABIESyeah the only thing that caused wipes for me was when wyverns rush you from the tunnel and overloads flank you and give you backshots
That is how you stay alive, don't be a turret, no when to push and don't hesitate
He has good teammates too.
@@eliot58 those wyverns really are the true difficulty of the boss room. Fucking demon creatures.
Re: Unbreakable
1. Thermite Grenades are currently bugged with Unbreakable. They instantly cap you out on damage without needing to block anything. Highest damage from just the blast itself seems to be ~64k, jumping up to ~128k with full Verity stacks.
2. If you use Pulse Grenade you can take advantage of both weaken grenades and jolting grenades depending on the situation and if you need easier overload stuns.
3. If you have Banner Shield equipped, Unbreakable can spawn 3 orbs when blocking damage. This isn't tied to Ursa Furiosa at all.
Sentinel actually has a lot of perks that help fill out Unbreakable slightly more. Easier Devour procs, spawning 2x orbs on grenade kills (grenades weaken + killing weakened enemies spawns orb + Firepower). It's a lot of fun to run it with Ursa Furiosa and build myself as a protector/orb battery for the team. Just make sure to tell your team to use their damn supers and stop holding onto them for Frontiers!
Prismatic can work, but I have to play it a bit differently. I usually use Unbreakable to push up to adds (or grab a revive) since it isn't going to OHKO champs and then use the Diamond Lances on the tougher targets. I like charging up a Thunderclap after freezing them. :) Another option is to run Unbreakable/Drengr's Lash and Abeyant Leap instead of a class item: unbreakable to push up, Thruster/Barricade to suspend anything left alive. You also get Woven Mail when you suspend things for better survivability since Prismatic lacks some.
The roll I use in PvE Prismatic is Bear/Star-Eaters with Twilight Arsenal. Pvp is Bear/Armamentarium with Thermites for quick 185 damage and faster supers. People like to shoot your shield! :D
I wish it had some sort of anti-champ synergy or some baked-in way to refund grenade energy though. :'( Different effects based on grenade element would have been neat too.
I thought that part of the abeyent (on class item exotic) was missing where you get woven from suspend
@@Syrock1 I meant the actual exotic! :P
How potent are the three orbs?
Thanks for the insight, might try it in co-op stuff.
Let it be bugged then!!! Prismatic Titan is boo boo! I need something that can compete with these other classes that are just dominating rn lol. It’s so sad that my tank of a Titan got dumbed down to a marshmallow on the battlefield. WE FRIGGIN OWN THE BATTLEFIELD GOD DOG IT!!!
For that Titan build, use Armamentarium. Verity is not nearly as good as the original Armamentarium. It gives you an orb of power on every grenade kill and gives you 2 charges. With the right armor mod setup, you can spam the Unbreakable grenade instead of waiting constantly for it to recharge. Use buried bloodline to gain devour so you can push enemies and gain it back faster. Verity is simply not good enough. Bear is okay, but you don't need to worry about super energy that much, especially in a GM.
Also dont you do more dmg for the amout you tank? if you going stun the champ before even doing it, you wont do that much dmg.
@@King_Midas_Touch well also he wasn't even using weapons to stun with. Like yes, sort of with barrier champs, but he should be stunning champs then blasting them with Unbreakable. You can get more damage for blocking, but if you just stun the champ then spam unbreakable on them, they should just die.
yes arma is better i wanted to include smth else
oh damn i got the bear and armamentarium class item too
Bear is garbo overall but Bear + Verity is good because you're doing around 300k+ one Unbreakable.
Oh shit I’m first................does that mean I can make a sandbox change of my choice?..........PUT ONSLAUGHT AND KINETIC TREMORS ON CERBERUS!!!!
Actuallys sounds pretty fun
Jesus that would be nastyyyyyy. Have you messed within since the buff?? Clappps.
U have my vote
YESSSSSSS
Yes yes yes lol
I discovered in testing with mothkeepers on prismatic at launch that the moths sometimes don’t give you ANY light energy on kills or damage which is possibly a bug but yes it’s a neat interaction on prismatic that it can proc jolt, blind, and volatile rounds all in one go, lots of fun and hopefully it gets addressed.
13:16 --- Uncle Ruckus theme 😂
Solid choice there haha. 🍻
Lol yeah he used the uncle ruckus theme a lot 😂 glad someone else notices it 😂
Ive been running my prismatic titan with Hazardous propulsion in the GMs.. once you have a champ stunned, if you can hit it with a full salvo you'll shred the majority of its health.. and because things are pretty tanky, you're landing constant precision hits to refill it.
I use it with booster as well.. the emergency suspend tangle it drops has saved me countless times now.
Yeah titans may not be the best atm but damn if we didnt get the coolest fucking exotic this expansion
I do love hazardous propulsion, the ONE thing I hate about it is that I just personally love exotics that help me with survivability. Damage comes second to survival to me, and I'm worried that I'll just get shredded and without any way of saving myself
@@JustAJauneArc I felt the same and leaned into being very safe in my subclass set up and have been doing solar titan with a healclip incan weapon along with dragon's breath and the call for the rocket synergies, plus bonk hammer and healing nades. Solar has a fragment that drastically reduces the class ability cd when scorching targets as well so you have pretty good uptime on spamming the exodus rockets.
@@samarbrander981Don’t worry, your build will be taken to the next level once we get the solar rocket sidearm with heal clip/Incandescent 😅
This prismatic moth build is very close to what i've been using. It started with me falling in love with the Mothkeepers in the Strand build and then just leaving them on.
The unbreakable build just shows prismatic titans issues between devour and offensive bulwark the whole build is better on void
What exotic would you suggest to pair with void?
@telephones3 bloodline is already good for an extra devour source and it's weaken but vexcalibur and graviton would fit in well I use elsies rifle for repulsor and grenade recharge and leviathan breath for damage and unstop
its not better on void sadly bc you need to drop the double charge nade he didnt show it off but it has a crazy interaction since he has verity. and he completly used it wrong. i can consistently onetap the champs. YES i know it dosnt have overload coverage. i didnt really intend to use it only in gms. and there i want my mades to cover it.
@@panzerkitti1212 fair point but the crazy recharge rate with an overshield+devour+brave arsenal perk I've never missed the 2 nade charges I'll definitely have to look out for veritys damage buff tho
@@waifuskaijus6667 also bear stareater is a thing which goes crazy on the dmg part. you can change super at all time too but titan dosnt really have an option on prismatic. sadly titan is just bad prismatic. they couldnt give us banner of war.
The Titan build is for sure, without a shadow of a doubt, unbelieveably one of the builds of all time
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I really hope they make prismatic Titan as good as warlock and hunter. Can’t believe the tanks of the battlefield got reduced down to pathetic marshmallows.. so sad bungie
I don't care who the traveler sends, you can't convince me that Unbreakable is a good aspect.
Honestly, same. It just needs MORE. Lower cd, higher uptime. Honestly, maybe even grenade energy on hit, pair it with offensive bulwark, and it'll just be constant shields.
The biggest issue is that it consumes your grenade, if it consumed your barricade that’d make it decent at least
@@GN--005 I had the same thought. Especially in end game content, grenades are so much more valuable than my barricade
I wish the enemies would actually shoot the damn thing. 9/10 time it's just me looking stupid in my bubble grenade until the timer expires, just to get shit on right after. Like gimme a break man
@@mfyoutubewatcher9352I think if it pulled agro kinda like the hunters spector that would woupd make it a lot better. I think your right I saw multiple times where cross got very little damage out of it because no one attacked him.
The shield one looks fun… for lower content. The aspect was useful on the legend campaign, to close the gap to do melee stuff or survive making the overshield while blocking. But if they ever buff the damage further, it could get good.
I don't know why cross is surprised titan builds are struggling... He literally did a video on it lol
He wants to find an S tier so bad, u know, besides consecration 😂😂
@@SeanAnon369 I'm working on a build to submit. hoil/point contact with, you guessed it, consecration. Lmao
Bruh the fact that I have this same exact setup with Mothkeepers and it was my first time using them and in GMs yesterday. The only thing I didn’t have was Buried Bloodline cause I don’t have it yet so I used an (Under-Over + Voltshot) Phyllotactic Spiral Pulse for Overloads and Barriers, and a (Headstone + Desperate Measures) Bold Endings. Most of the time, I’m using The Pulse Rifle and when I switch I’m already 3x Desperate Measures for Bold Endings. Use Dragon’s Breath to clean up adds, Champions, and help DPS the Big Vex Boss. It pairs very well with a Warlock using Speaker’s Sight. 😊
i was talking about this with the homies the other day but honestly i feel ike the next step for prismatic is allowing us to choose in between a prismatic melee or nade for transcendnence, because in a build like mothkeepers you basically lose your exotic when you go transcendant, which makes melee builds just even better for prismatic
Agreed. I love the grenades for what theyre worth but I hate that it replaces the grenade you need to work with your build.
Moth keepers is really good on prismatic with the fusion rifle that consumes your grenade. So much fun when every shot is a consumed grenade
I thought they fixed that
@@Kastor0311 how do you mean? I wasn’t aware it was broke
cross ik that you are just following the build, but if you wanted to change it around, when it comes to using a darkness melee on prismatic hunter, I'd recommend threaded spike because
1. the tracking is really good
2. the richochet means you get a lot of darkness energy (same with withering blade but threaded spike feels a lot better)
3. you can keep it up really effectively if you can catch it, as long as you hit 5 or so enemies you can get the whole thing back, and if you only hit 1 or 2, it's pretty much half guaranteed.
4. it will create a tangle which can give you even more darkness energy.
5. if you're running facet of honor, it can give you even even more darkness energy (like 1 kill + breaking the tangle = maybe 15% of your darkness bar)
I’m not gonna say that Titan build would be amazing or even A-tier if used correctly but god damn it’s like he didn’t even use the build. Didn’t actually block much damage with it, just held it up and thought it would do damage by itself like an on-call nuke, didn’t use the grenade regen tools to use it more.
Apparently the bug with grenades on prismatic (according to other comments) is that the shield doesn't need to be charged, meaning that he's doing full damage. Any difference in numbers is probably due to the -20 power cap in GMs.
One because there’s almost no uptime for it with the build since he’s not getting devour a lot. Two because it’s hard to use in a Gm since you’re trying to block damage and get close where everything one shots you and three the damage and over shield isn’t worth you’re grenade
let me point you to 32:58 then. When he gets what you're asking for, taking a lot of damage and nuking someone with a WHOOPING 70k damage (lolwtf)
then instantly dying afterwards because surprise surprise the easiest way to take damage is having enemies that are shooting at you. We also don't have a lot of grenade energy getting fed into this.
Why should anyway be playing a dangerous play style like unbreakable when there are tons of weapons that can just sit back far enough and safe enough to just do that same damage?
@@TyeJak588he didn’t block almost anything. He ate some shots to the side, hobgoblin snipe also hit him in the side (mostly eaten by the void overshield). He didn’t get shot by the boss, a strand tangle was thrown in front of him. The shield only absorbed a couple of stray shots.
@@randomguy6092I don’t get the impression the aspect is meant for the damage it deals, nor does the build (despite the description saying it is). The build feels like it’s meant to soak up damage to build up super energy and this is one of the worst GM’s for that where ads are too spread out and generally everything is long range.
the best titan build ive been able to make is based off the original strand titan build from the beginning of lightfall. it uses abeyant leap to gain woven mail from suspending targets and a solar super to gain restoration from picking up orbs. the general gameplay loop is suspend enemies and consecrate them. if you use shackle grenades and drangers lash with the exotic you can pretty much keep everything around you suspended. if you need to recharge your abilities you go transendant and then even that grenade suspends. also running the combo of shackle grenades and consecration gets you your transendance back pretty quickly.
The SMG was a terrible pick for the hunter build. Needed a strand or Stasis pulse.
I swapped for Relentless
I use better devils with slice and explosive which works great
AC:😏
“Is it consecration?”
AC : 😒
Unbreakable definitely needs some love. I honestly think it could be really good too if it either did more damage, scaled better, or both
13:16 I thought we were about to hear Aztecross have a heated gamer moment, The shock on my face when I heard the Uncle Ruckus Theme followed by a zoom in on his face!
The "pew" at the gunpowder gamble actually made me lol - great edit as always. Fun builds
Maker of the titan build: “Btw use buried bloodline to weaken enemies before hitting them with unbreakable for max damage :))”
Cross, proceeding to *not* use buried bloodline on any champions: “I hate you and I hate this.”
I mean you need to get devour with a kill on it in the first place which in a gm on this build is not gonna happen often enough for you to even get a weaken debuff on enemies.
brother 15% more damage is not gonna make it kill those champs and live
@@gutpunchYT stunning the champs first then getting 15% on top of that would def do it. Theres plenty of vids of it happening.
The issue with unbreakable seems to be that sometimes enemies will just not hit you while you're guarding with it, which defeats the whole use of it. When you are able to get it ramped up with decent incoming damage, it puts out a nice amount of damage. The inconsistent nature of it makes it hard to use it looks like to me.
you can react to dmg with it. bait dmg with it it has a big skill celing. It wasnt fully fleshed out yet didnt upload the video guide with it yet so it got completly used wrongly. But its ok at least i raised avareness that this exists
@@panzerkitti1212 makes sense. Cross never really gave the build an actual chance. He had his mind made up from the start.
@@loreseeker6604 sadly true. he should run with stareater for boss and drop verity overall. run another gm thats more ad dense and not just solved by outbreak. i love running dungeons with it -5 is where it thrives
@panzerkitti1212 verity might work but cross never even attempted to maximize its potential. He only bothered getting kills to proc it once amd didn't even get all five nor did he use further setup the damage by using facet of courage to further buff its damage. He really doesn't do a good job of testing builds like matics or plunder do. Matics will use the initial setup but do some testing to see if some tweaks are possible.....frankly your going to the main line youtubers like kakis or cross for unique builds 6our in the wrong 0pave my friend.
Plunderthatbooty just released a titan build thst soloed the GM without an exotic class item or using a melee as the main aspect of the build.
@@loreseeker6604 jeah its mainstream and also the community votes which will vote for hunter all the time.- representing it THAT badly isnt making it justice. id rather have him show it off somewhere else and make awareness. now he just trashed it and 99% that watch it just go with it and say its trash i wont try. but when i get at least 10 people to try it they might find a new main setup if they tired of using conceration and love throwing axes. i will update the build and try to publish videos with it. i´m invested to give it a fair chance
Don’t care what anyone says Unbreakable is the most fun I’ve had on Titan in recent memory.
Mans isn’t using this as effectively as he could be
“Oh hunters are broken titans u are just making stuff up” that hunter in a gm ran into and deleted so much so fast
I have been enjoying using moth keepers with tessalation. With the right setup you basically have infine charged shots from tessalation. The catalyst adds elemental effect so woth mothkeepers hour shot also blinds, though mist things will just die. Once your transcendent you get basically infinite grenade charge spam from the prismatic grenade. Its craxy fun snd very powerful.
Mothkeeper is in my top 10 most used exotics for hunter, and I really enjoy using it.
I love Mothkeepers too but I think the only "problem" (not that big) I have with Transcendence on grenade focused builds like Mothkeepers or a Grapple melee Synthos build is that you can't really play within your builds theme once you're Transcendent because of it replacing your grenade. I love popping it for the increased ability regen and mostly the DR (damage boost is whatever) but hate that I can't really use it with builds that revolve around the reliable use of Grapple, Moth, or Duskfield.
That said I would love to see a more Transcendent focused build to see how it holds up.
Prism Titan vs ANYTHING is doomed to fail....
Titan was cooked from the start. :/
Ikr. It's so hard to make a unique titan build
i ran multiple solo gms on my titan with various build only using prismatic. there’s a skill gap that has become wider with the release of prismatic.
Bro same and you wanna know how I stayed back and didn't use my abilitys because there ass @@mrthor3061
There's multiple solo GM videos on Prismatic Titan that emerged the first week. Stop being such a drama queen.
I actually really love the hunter moth built with stasis! The stasis hunter never really interested me but with its buffs and synergy it’s definitely one of my favorite builds now
13:19 moment had me dead with the Uncle Ruckus theme as the icing on the cake.
had MothKeepers Glued to My Arms ever since Final Shaped Dropped, having 2 Jolt Seeking Nades is Sooooooooooooo MUCH FUN 🔥🔥💯💯🎮🎮
I made the exact same titan build a few weeks ago but with second chance and a few different aspects, as well as bastion to cook Champs, it continues to cook in gm's
Edit:unbreakable us really good at clearing out groups of beefy ads, then use bastion for Champs
The hunter is actually pretty solid. The moth grenades do way more damage then I thought they’d do, and my grenades recharge fast enough to where I can basically dish out Void Overshield whenever I want. Also being that I don’t have the Buried Bloodline, I’m using Telesto. So far it’s been pretty good.
Try ex diris if you don’t have bloodline, it spawns moths on kills and with the caty amplifies you on kill as well
I have only played Prismatic on Mothkeepers, got me through Leg Campaign, and played it on Arc last year, so glad to see it getting some love.
Definitely agree it's hard to get the darkness side of Transcendence going, I've been using Winter's Shroud to combo my the Stasis melee and a Kinetic primary to charge both sides. Seeing the uptime does have me interested to try Gunpowder Gamble for content where you can't get close w/o dying tho.
I’ve been using Prismatic Titan with Skullfort, Shackle Grenade and Thunderclap. You powered melee final blow fully heals you, not to mention your grenade suspends them to make it easier to hit them with Thunderclap and I’ve been using Wish Keeper, with Indebted Kindness and Pro-Memoria
I haven't seen anyone use Doom Fang on Titan now that it can be used on prismatic to get any of those supers back faster. Also it gives bonus void damage to weapons which could be used with Graviton or Bloodline as well. This also plays well with Expanding Abyss.
The fact that there is so many more viable end game builds to make this series should be celebrated.
Titans need that buff asap 😂
Bungie: Instructions unclear, nerfed Titans again
I freaking love the uncle ruckus theme that plays when he’s pissed
I mean to be fair he wasn’t proccing devour half the time nor stacking verity. It’s a lot of hops to jump through to nuke a champ, to get x5 but he didn’t claim it was a champ killer either.
jeah arma is better still 2 blastss longer shielding 2x more super. i should have includet it i was about to make a build video and completly update it never thought id be featured in this week... he used it wrongly- but you can see you are a immovable tank when having it up and you throwback dmg isnt bad- it really thrives in -5 content where you have perma uptime on your rotations. but that really shows again how weak titan is whatever you do besides concecration or strand.-
The call with demo and Exedris with the moths build is also very nice, along with hammerhead with distabilizng rounds
I refuse to believe the Mara Sov bundle is not the first place prize
Js facet of mending and bravery works with the moths as well. So the moths can apply jolt, overshields, cure and give volatile rounds.
I've also been using Mothkeeper's on prismatic and they do feel great. People are for sure sleeping on it - blind is great in hard content and jolt with it is awesome. I prefer threaded spike for the sever (though obviously slow has anti champ powers, so fair enough) and facet of sacrifice to help with the darkness meter. I found it built VERY fast with sacrifice on. Also don't have buried bloodline :( So was using the old school ex-diris with a bold endings with demo just to top off grenade. Could also go with The Call with demo and one for all to help with darkness meter, plus with unravelling rounds from bravery it has great damage. It's a pretty flexible build - there are a lot of options, particularly with guns.
EDIT: plus, i finally paid attention to everyone saying learn to catch threaded spike, and very often you can have it ready to throw straight away again. It's very easy to do - you just have to pay attention and actually press the button.
18:52 he uses Thermite Grenades because they're currently bugged. You only have to hold the unbreakable shield for 1 sec or so to get the full charge damage.
Hope to see some hazardous proportion builds soon! Most fun i had on titan in a while!
Even on Prismatic I'm still hooked on Abeyant Leap and Wishkeeper for the greatest and simplest Crowd Control build I've ever used.
hey guys thx for liking my build- the skill sealing on this is alot higher than it seems try it out and have sum fun not running concecration for the entire game
I'll be the first to admit I was not onboard with Unbreakable as well until I learned how to use it. Once it clicked I've had a hard time taking it off.
@@Odysseus123 strong agree iv been loving running it for anything. it nukes subjugators in raid or the few champs that are there. i reccomend on not using verity tho and consider stareater more and more. maybe even hotswap from time to time depending on what content. but chucking supers 24/7 having this nuke of a grenade replacement is so much more fun than concecration. and survivability is actually insane.
@@panzerkitti1212 Yea, I've got a HoIL/Star-Eater that pairs really well, but I'm hunting a HoIL/Arma one. I can get 4 Unbreakable blasts back to back with a Severance/Arma roll so I'm interested to see how HoIL might juice it.
I'm pretty sure the armamentarium build is almost used in a similar way osmiomancy does. I'd imagine throwing a thermite to prime, then using the second to charge in and blow up whatever is left. Then you'd just clear whatever is left.
As a moth hunter you should know that you don't actually need an Arc grenade equipped. You can definitely use grapple for a higher uptime as equipping mothkeepers automatically switches you equipped grenade into an Arc moth nade while still keeping the same uptime you would with grapple equipped. That is all.
"At no point I feld these is insane" that sums the Prismatic Titan experience 😂.
Verity used to be pretty good on void warlock because if you built up stacks and charged up a chaos accelerant vortex grenade it basically did nova bomb damage as a grenade. I haven’t found it useful since that build, which was pretty good early on with void 3.0 launch. I tried to recreate it on prismatic with spirit of verity, but it didn’t seem as good as I remember. Verity + osmiomancy on warlock has potential, but I don’t have that roll
Been using a similar build since about a week after final shape, love my moth babies
you can fix the trancendance meter on the first build by using Cataphract in stead of Edge Transit
edit: and that might require a swap to a light Melee
I literally made a titan build that cooks. Eternal Warrior/ Star Eater. Blast furnance with firefly and microcosm as the heavy. Strand gernade and drengrs lash to lock down the room. And lastly mods to help feed back into my ability energy to have a consistent uptime for when i dont need my super. It's a juicer of a build that doesn't need consecration and i can play it safe from a distance.
You don't need to run Arcbolts to get the jolt on Mothkeepers, the moths count as an Arc grenades themselves so they get the benefit of the fragment regardless of the nade
"Boys, We are moving really slow."
They're six minutes in and they are on the second to last room 😂😂
Why did you not use buried bloodline as much for the titan build? The guy even gave you the order of operations to use it for proccing devour and weaken.
The gun powder gamble has a weird bug/glitch allowing you to throw multiple gables it’s crazy for demolitionist weapons such as lost signal, time your shots you just throw and throw with inmost light/coyote it’s wild how much things you’re throwing add transcendence and it gets wilder use threaded spike or shurikens and it’s just ability heaven
hunter build looks fun, will have to give that one a shot
The Moth hunter build is great, i have a very similar one but with treaded specter instead of Stylish Ex so that fixed usualy the missing darkness transendence, and Ex Diris for extra moths and Void overshields wich btw give 50% DR.
Plunderthabooty made a awesome Titan build that doesn't use consecration.
I will say using unbreakable with void Titan has saved me a few times. The ursa build on void is the best “tank” fantasy build, besides stronghold. But then I used a void peregrine build and just wrecked ass on all those champs, though I had to be more cautious with the wyverns.
Need to see a peregrine greaves build for titan gain more popularity! That build can be really fun in gms
I could see a play for unbreakable as a weakening tool- get close to weaken (facet of dominance) with unbreakable blast then use thunderclap. Class item could be either bear, inmost, or assassins paired with contact or synthos
Oh yeah I used moth keepers for all of the campaign. Good stuff
At first I believed prismatic titan would just be a better version of void titan, or at least have some heavy punch power. Now I have received ancestral knowledge from lord over-titan Aztecross that most everything on prismatic titan is worth half a wet fart, on top of having zero synergy. These are dark times indeed. Stay strong, Crayola consumers.
A nice buff for that new void aspect to make it better would be to make the blast after blocking either weaken or spread volatile. Also buff the damage by 20 percent like they did with consecration.
The new void aspect is way better on void though when you can take advantage of all the void verbs.
Bear/armamentarium class item would be good for this build
Cross is mainly spamming it as an offensive weapon, instead of saving it for the times he's one shot and could use the extra cover, while gaining super energy, I think that's why it's not so effective here(the aspect also just really needs a buff)
We need a new build battles ASAP after this showing. Tough to watch titans
I like Unbreakable but I do wish they would just treat it like a Sword Guard in that you can guard with it at any time so long as you have above a minimum required energy, this wouldnt even break things considering Unbreakable's damage, energy use, and overshield gain are already based on how much ability energy you consume/damage blocked.
Though other options would be having it give an extra grenade charge OR making it work off Melee energy and aspects instead so your melee has more use in content where its not always practical to use a melee ability but then you'd lose a lot of the synergies that come from being a Grenade Ability.
It was also pretty funny watching Cross play like he wasnt in GM content on the Titan.
Lol I loved this GM because the Overloads would almost always teleport themselves off the map making it and easier run every time 😂 plus it’s funny when the AI just says nah fam I’m out 😂
Watch out when popping you're hunter stasis super when facing wyvern's, they can randomly 1 tap before you even get you're second sickle off
God damn cross is amazing at staying alive through mobility
You know I’m not a game dev but I think unbreakable should be like Athena’s ability from Borderlands the pre sequel and be tied to the melee rather than the grenade. If you’ve never played that borderlands the ability is basically the same as unbreakable but you use an actual shield (kinda like the titan melee) hence the “Athena” name and throw the shield that got powered up from the damage you absorbed.
It’d be real nice if you didn’t have to give up your grenade to use this cool aspect. Maybe even let you use frenzied blade and get three charges of the absorb/shield throw.
Just my 2 cents
yay you finally remembered titans exist!
I don’t agree with cross here, titan builds are so incredibly stale right now
Strand titan is still unmatched lol
Yeah they are trash on prismatic. Been a Titan main all of D2. Have played it for a couple if hours in FS
4 minute barrier cooldown on void, low damage high cooldown supers on arc, melee pigeonhole, majority awful exotics...
what isn't there to love!?
@@Domothedon9209 but strand titan is so lame
Star eaters and glacial quake.
As a titan, this build seems nice for super but that’s it, I’m getting back into destiny because of the final shape and may have to build something for you to try.
Btw, Backup mag screws over your ammo on Scintillation. You have more ammo without it
Backup mag too? I thought adept mag was the one that did that...
@@MridulBiswas They both are atm, regular is even worse than adept
the "HEYAAAAAAH"s will never not kill me
Arma with a demo weapon would have made this build shine
The new void aspect is way better on void though when you can take advantage of all the void verbs.
I'm 100% looking for Spirit of Inmost Light and Spirit of Verity/Armamentarium. Consecration build for endgame activities, but Unbreakable build for general play.
9:16 that a lot of light energy
Theres been a surprisingly high amount of overloads that just off themselves in my runs of this GM. 😂
They should make unbreakable stun unstoppable champions. Its saint 14 themed i feel like it fits well. Would give void titan a really cool tool that differentiates it with the other void classes.
The warlock build got robbed. It’s literally the best build in the game across the board whether solo or in a fireteam. It’s just nuts
your teammates did not do the first build justice.
Honestly, Unbreakable is better on Void than it is on Prismatic. I have a support build that uses Unbreakable and Ursa Furiosa and it does surprisingly well. Did a test run on a Glassway GM run and made 99 orbs and only died to a stray Wyvern shot.
only prob with prism is you trancendence is kinda wasted you dont do anything with it since you cant use unbreakable when its active. which really bothert me but i still wanted to release it that way. including verity was a mistake tho. using arma/stareaters is way better. stareater for bossing and arma for general content
Prismatic Titan has some good builds, just need some imagination. Don’t build into the subclass itself, use it as a utility subclass. That will help you get more creative
I like the bear/verity on stoicism
Concentration with assassins/HOIL/severance + syntho/cannon are op
You could try a prismatic titan build with peregrine greaves and knockout to possibly one shot champs
I love prismatic hunter. I feel bad for titan, I do, but yay hunter.
People hate a lot but our boy Aztec clutched like 10-times in both runs during “team wipe” scenarios 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻