Suing The Police | The Briefs (Criminal Law Documentary) | Real Stories
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2018
- With unprecedented access to Britain’s busiest legal aid practice, The Briefs takes us into the cut-throat world of criminal law. The Briefs follows the skilful lawyers of Tuckers in Manchester, as they look after their clients on cases ranging from blackmail to murder. The lawyers cover everything from taking on a case where a 63 year old woman is accused of drug dealing to a poet accused of benefit fraud. This is how justice really works.
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the guy caught for walking in a jewellery shore at the riots should have said : he went in to make sure no one was hurt and went back in as he thought he heard someone calling for help ............. case dismissed
Jamie Carter no wonder people in the south view northerners as a bunch of thick’s
@@thecarpetman7687 it's not entirely their fault though the education system has failed
The story was enough to cast reasonable doubt. Since he done nothing else then good decision. We can only guess what his thinking was at that time.
we all saw him looking to see if there was anything left come on use your eyes
He was on the take
I've often wandered about during a riot in and out of a jewellers, oh hang on... No I would have gone home. Yes, that's what keeps you out of the cells.
“The truth always comes through” ..... barrister draws a deep breath lol
Stephen says Clare and Beth are more like family...I doubt they see it quite like that
Well just in case he's put a tracker on their cars
Creepy.
richard lawless Beth better watch out
Imagine he texting you at weekends
There junkys
I think I'd be a bit concerned regarding boundaries with some of these clients. ..
The lawyers need to keep their business that’s why they are always close to clients
@@user-qr7eb1sf3l no lawyer should be close to clients.. You learn this in any ethics class in law school.. If you're a lawyer and doing that you're clearly unprofessional and have no regards for ethics.
My brother in law and first cousin are criminal lawyers, and I have done the LPC . With my experience, a lot of it pretense to get the clients coming back. Take it with anpinch of salt, because they would not allow any of these people around their children
Aranielle, maybe they're pretending to be close to the clients.
@@aranielleb7718 Piss off. Sincerely, an actual lawyer.
“A course in thinking skills” 😂 😡
Next time think about it properly so you don't get caught
Anyone notice the ring he had on I wonder where he got that from ? LMAO
Abuse of Alcohol is the cause of a lot of problems in society
Tim needs to decide if he wants to give up the alcohol or leave his partner cos the two don't mix
You know you're in a good pub if it has law firm beer mats
🍺 they all have the same sauce to hand 🍻
How can someone not know they enter a jewellery store but then be so sure they didnt take anything 🤔
@@TruthTortoise81 I agree with you both but luckily for him and all of us we have a legal system which requires beyond reasonable doubt and he was clever enough to come up with a story that cast reasonable doubt. My gut is he was up to no good. But we can't convict people on gut instinct.
I mean I would 😭😂
Possibly because you know your own character.
Surely he’d have it if he took something
@@mammacee8829 it's on camera when he went off screen he was putting something in his pocket.
Find the solicitor 'on call' contact with Stephen very unprofessional to say the least. They are not your friends!.
clarebelz bellinger do you think that they were perhaps humouring him knowing he was a violent stalker? You’re not allowed to just refuse to represent a client if they have been assigned to you at the police station as an on duty solicitor.
Extremely unprofessional. Not healthy at all.
That was weird
'We only had seven channels on the telly which was not good.'
Said the Welshman after a three week stint in PRISON 🙄
I know what a Moron Tim is.
I hope you g Keiron got away from him!
*young*
The first solicitor should quit the profession. What a disgrace. The prosecution are the ones who have to prove intent to steal or cause harm/injury and from the CCTV it was not clear whether he did intend to steal or not. To suggest that he should plead guilty just for the sake of it is purely professionally negligent.
Tbh yes but... It is realistic in a Magistrates. They like to convict. In front of a jury, given the choice, he has a far better chance, but far greater potential penalty if found guilty. The system is what should take the blame. Including improper audit of legal work conducted by solicitors and access to services by Defendants. The system is corrupt.
Why might you expect anything better from any solicitor prepared to work in such an appalling environment.
Lol I feel I could do as well as them just by watching so much pure crime documentaries and trial footage
To say someone should plead guilty because they have no hope of winning is professionally valid. Basically, he said he believes they prosecution will be able to prove it. He literally says "You will be found guilty"
He should be found guilty for being a drunken fool
As a criminal lawyer, I am really enjoying this series! Proud of all my learned colleagues shown here as well. May justice always prevail. 😊😍
I'm sorry but any defence lawyer recommending to plead guilty to someone saying their not guilty is a lousy lawyer
@@kurtaussie585 thats not true. The lawyer is trying to get the client the nest outcome. If they know the facts all go against the client then the best outcome will come.fro. a guilty plea
To be fair that is a very suspicious way to smoke a cig.
omfg you judge how somebody smokes a cig...…..are you judgemental on many issuses?? please get on with your life pal
Marcel C pure gangster imo
Please confirm you are joking? lol
It was a bit odd but it takes all sorts. Btw adrenaline can cause all sorts of changes in behaviour amongst all sorts of people. Especially when you are being filmed for a tv series. Bit of a mess, this case.
He's just holding it 😑
I AM ACTULLY MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BOY NOT HAVING ANY FRONT TEETH AT THE AGE OF 14/15YEAR OLD.! lols 😬😬🇬🇧
Looking at their house it's probably poor hygiene from a young age (could also be fighting but leaning more to the hygiene side)
As soon as they start touting their "honesty", you know they are lying.
Oh poor Nelly!! All she was trying to hold on to her late husbands ashes!!! Rest in peace Nelly xoxo
Its so horrible and sad..Bless her soul.
Kate is hot.
@@aspiknf thank you xx
You're welcome :-) xx
i have been a heroin addict and been jailed a few times for shop thefts even as an addict i never ever thought about doing anything like that and never ever would no matter how bad i needed money id never grab any old persons bag even if i knew id get away with it it just something id never do
To Tim's bf Kieran: Don't marry an angry, jealous alcoholic.
The program is 10 years old, he probably married and divorced him by now.
Has anybody noticed they're all called 'Steven/Stephen', even the first episode. Bizarre!
I been heroin addict for 15 years i been in prison for shoplifting but its never crossed my mind and neither would it to ever rob any old women its something id never even think about no matter how badly i needed money even if i knew id get away with its still something id never do and i dont get on with any police but if i knew someone who was robbing old women id be first 1 there telling hem who he was after id put in hospital for doing it
But you stole off your family your poor mum
those guilty of breaking in and stealing are getting away with the crime bc they knew to cover their faces, wear gloves, and get in and out asap. yet the guy obviously isnt a harden criminal gets to do the time purely bc the crown wants to make an example of him to hopefully stop others in the future. Thusly they will try and nail him to the wall
those two kids he says they have and he sees on the regular basis are probably their cats lol
Tim Eagle was also on a programme about STD’s
I remember that.
His poor kids
I remember that wasnt he given a false positive for hiv only to find out the next day he had nt got it.
Can someone tell me what incentives the firm has to do good business for their clients? If it’s a flat fee as duty solicitor / legal aid then what incentive do they have? To be honest a lot of these people seem uncooperative and I can see there being a temptation to give up with them, but they’re still entitled to proper defence.
Reputation, solicitors get the vast majority of their custom from recommendations by previous clients, their reputations are everything to them. Ego is another big driver for them.
@@soul7530 that’s interesting thank you. I did see throughout the series that the firm managed to ‘get them off’ on previous occasions so that must give them standing I guess
Because they care a little bit, they like their job and flat fee means safe work and clientele that never ends
Those who hurt that elderly lady.... horrid
Absolutely horrid
The community should be ashamed that they are CRIMINALS. Death threats and violence because they FEEL they know who killed the lady.....
Wrong
Just wrong
If the police werent so quick to make false arrests, the local public wouldnt have had any reason to threaten those kids.
@@kait2972 what a stupid thing to say. The boys would have possible grounds for wrongful arrest but so what? People should wait for facts and not behave like a Neanderthal lynch mob. Blaming the police for peoples stupidity and barbarism is about as retarded as it gets!
I couldn't believe the brief who visited the boy and his Mum at home, waltzing in and out of their house with a very obvious folder with 'Tuckers' emblazoned across it; talk about dim, given that he was receiving death threats at the time. 🤦🏼♀️🙄🤦🏼♀️
They caught the guy, he got 28 years!!
How can a police note book just turn up out the blue ! And be aloud to be used as evidence from another alleged police stop????????
*OMG the guy in the thumbnail looks so much like Rutger Hauer when he says "like tears in the rain...."*
Why is it that most of these people fit into a certain "stereotype", always smoking and gagging for a bevvie!
Id be dying for a drink and a smoke if I was having to go to court too lol
@@LukeMcGuireoides I would love to start every day with a nice sigarett and a straight vodka on the rocks, but I guess I rather keep my health, my driverslicense and my job, thank you very much!
@@kjemma okay and if your in court awaiting trial you really gonna undervalue what could be your last pint and ciggie for a whileeee
I’m sure if Prince Andrew let us look in his palace he’ll be doing the same thing
Its designed to make you sneer at poor people
That riot burglary solicitor needs sacking. How can you say plead guilty on that when there's no theft or intention to steal???
Hes on cctv, and the elements required for burglary are satisfied
Mr Jenkins shows off his stolen ring from the riots when hes in the solicitors and makes a point of it too.
Can only find two episodes . Where is the rest please?
These people don’t need legal representation, they need a good old fashioned work camp!
@@TomGallagherSuperboyBeyond who on this show didn’t do the crime?
FFS Tim “it’s hard to get outta bed to work for free”💩
I know 🤣🤣 thats his punishment
Seems like he's quite happy to lay in bed not working taking tax payers £££ .
Britain has become a cesspool . So glad I don't live there anymore .
Dear God, it pisses me off that there Are honest hardworking people Who cant afford a good lawyer two protect themselves And their children from abusers And yet these shop lifted burglar murdering basturds get a lawyer on the states bill. Shocking these lawyer Are churning criminals for business. Disgusting.
Good mate don't let them get away with it. I had the same thing with a off Duty cop. He tried to over take me I got Angry with him he got really aggressive said he would knock me of my Scotter my daughter was a witness at the time he thought I was alone. Changed his attitude when she said I seen what you did to my mum and heard you Threaten her. Got in his car and drove a way
Tim's not a bright spark is he!
That dude is one Down to Earth lawyer
What gets me is whenever I’ve been slapped around literally or verbally, abused or threatened. I’ve never called the police on a partner. But I’ve literally had them call the police on me simply because I didn’t want to hand them my phone when I was sending a text message.
People like that stalker need to pay for their legal services.. Why are they entitled to legal aid after countless matters??
Because access to justice must be available to all. This includes helping members of society who would not be able to afford legal aid otherwise
you are SO much better off just outright denying than you are claiming to not recollect
Am I the only person who thinks there should be a limit on how many times a person can claim legal aid? 22 times must have cost the taxpayer hundreds of thousands and without putting too fine a point on it, is taking the piss. OK, we all might face a situation where legal aid is helpful and even necessary . . . maybe some of us might face it a few times in our lives, but 22??? When you've been arrested and charged that many times I would cut taxpayer assistance - there are more deserving cases where truly vulnerable people could benefit from that money.
Yo Tim, young minded is just a nice way of saying that your "immature"
@@afganno3385 you mean Welsh... Retarded /Welsh , all the same
@@thisnthat2653 There is something in the water down Wales.
M
Should have taken the £12,000 and ran!
I agree with the situation regarding Tim near the end of this video where the lawyer says he needed treatment so he would not end up in jail again. To jail him forever long without treatment is nonsensical and this type of thing needs to end with courts. Heck I live in supposedly one of the better nations for healthcare and people just love Canada and I tell you our judicial system and our healthcare system is trash when you look at closely. I have asked for a group to help with a gambling issue in a city that has a racetrack which is now getting slots again and there also is a full fledged casino plus a bingo hall that has slots in it and there are no Gamblers Anonymous groups around here and there is just one person to pick at our local hospital to help with the issue and when I got ill her office and herself forgot all about me. They never contacted me again about an appointment or to just check in and see how I was doing. Anyway hopefully this Tim sorted out his life and in my 47th year I hope I sort mine out too but it would be nice if healthcare was made better for all around the world to nip bad habits / behaviors in the bud before they get out of hand.
Do you not believe in any personal responsibility at all?? So you had a connection to someone at the local hospital, got ill, and it's THEIR fault that they didn't chase you down to continue trying to force help on you? No, no addict will get better so long as they continue to make excuses for their own behaviour, while blaming everyone else for not saving them from themselves. There is help out there, but YOU have to step up and be determined to fix your ish.
@@scarletamazon3455 you missed the point or don't care to see it. Also yes I understand personal responsibility. For instance I haven't kept alcohol in the house since I know I will use it with pills to off myself. I refuse to drink socially also. I am over a year now in dealing with this. So yeah I get the idea of helping one's self and it coming down to that.
I'm the adult child of an alcoholic, I understand addiction and the chaos it creates. Also all the excuses and blame-shifting.
BTW: Don't s-icide bait. It's another example of an addicts manipulative behaviour and it won't work on me.
When I say personal responsibility, I don't mean try to kick the addictions on your own. Of course you need professional help! And I agree with the point that it would be great if there were better access to mental healthcare worldwide. But there needs to be personal responsibility in that you will seek out the help and apply the lessons. Self help groups, most Anonymous groups also have online meetings BTW, working extra hours to pay for private therapy if you can't get on the waitlist for counselling via your GP, etc.
But, you said: " there is just one person to pick at our local hospital to help with the issue and when I got ill her office and herself forgot all about me. They never contacted me again about an appointment or to just check in and see how I was doing." That was an example of you blaming others for your problems. It was your job to follow up with them. You said yourself that there was only one doc there, but you expect them to chase you down and find out why you're not keeping appointments!! No. Not when there are addicts who are ready to accept the help and put the work in, they're not going to chase you down and beg you to let them help.
accept when you are in the wrong - like blaming the doc above, when you apparently dropped out of contact without following up with them yourself. That was your part of the healing process that no one else can do for you. An addict has to be ready and willing to recover.
@@scarletamazon3455 the doctor and the office showed no professionalism. Period. That was the point of my original post. You took things to places I knew someone might someday go in response to this post and it is annoying. I said what the original post was about so accept it.
Tim was trying it on with his communal service he saw it as punishment and not getting paid,It was a GIFT from the judge he gave him a second chance and he blew it believing they would forget about him,He learnt the hard way which could have been avoided,I know you have pity for him,We have the NHS not some crappy insurance scam,I don't believe he needs mental health care,Just steer clear of certain alcohol beverages,And you find a bus pass or a wallet hand it in
Franklin reminds me of Louis Litt from suits
The owner of tuckers loves himself
Is it not possible to decline a police interview in England? I ask because at one point in this video a lawyer practices with her client by asking him questions and having him respond, "No comment."
It seems to me it would be far easier to just decline the interview.
I'm not too sure if you can or cant. But by going "no commet" has its disadvantages and advantages. Disadvantages of " no comment " would be blatantly telling the police you are guilty in someway, either directly or indirectly. Cos anyone who is completely innocent would say " well I was here and so on " cos you have nothing to hide. Its advantages are you can hear what type of evidence the police have against you and it helps you not mess up. Cos if you try to lie on the spot the police might ask you have you ever been to " tescos in Dover before"? Cos ur being asked things on the spot you might say no and they got you on cctv . Which now proves ur a lier and why would you lie unless ur hiding guilt. So now when going to court it's harder to convince the jury and and so on. So no comment can help you judge what type of evidence they have. Sometimes they have no evidence, but because you have messed up so much in the interview they charge you after. And sometimes they let you go after u do no comment cos no evidence and you haven't been caught out lying so it's hard to pin it on you.
If you’re under arrest you cannot decline interview
@@beckiferret Yes you can. Just stay schtum.
I'll give you a tip regarding Identification Parades . You can actually take your own stooges to stand in the line up . They won't get the police appearance money . Handy if you have brothers , cousins or friends that resemble you . It can put a lot of doubt in the eye witnesse's recollection .
@@mrtran3034 they recommend you to say no comment even if innocent actually
Tim will get quite the shock when he finds Kieran acts in (ahem!) adult films.
I was tazed by south wales police because of miss identity i was paid £130,000 in compo. Its not about the money and i had my day in court and made them out to be complete incompetent wankers, which they where. 1st offer was £13k second was £40k which i refused and had my day in court. Judge was appalled by their actions and granted me the £130k compo 2hich was nice, but it was much nicer to see the 2 officers faces that done this,, head between legs is an understatement lol. Happy with the outcome tho!!
Lend us a fiver? Lol.
93 my mate started his claim and he got paid out 2011. 50k. Sued chief constable for malicious prosecution an false imprisonment an moved to marbaya.
i wonder how kieran feels about his boyfriend tim getting bummed in prison
Awww Channel 13, why are you being so nasty after being so gentle last night x
Ahahaahahaha
I think this comment is from a bad experience. Bet your a bit sore. lols
😆
Creepy comment from a creepy commentator
Alan Partridge: DJ and criminal solicitor
WTF is a 'Course in Thinking Skills?'
it so they can program you in to being a better slave. i'm not even joking.
Could be CBT, Mindfulness, counselling, GP/medication...there's help out there. Shame you have to wait months and months for it...
I had that once it was called school
Ets enhanced thinking skills
No intention but go inside twice.
Police offering money to not be taken to court am I right in thinking that is tax payers money?
Settling out of court IS an acceptance of responsibility, no matter what they say
Not necessarily, it is a way of buying off the litigation risk without prejudice to liability.
Most civil cases settle, its not just about accepting responsibility
Not always. It’s just weighing risks and time spent in court
Burial in the soundtrack! :-)
criminals don’t want to be dragged through court and they all want it to be over!!! What a shock!
I love these interviews where all they have is no comment. Personally, I would rather be truthful than destroy my credibility if I have nothing to hide then why would it just be a case of no comment?
Because whether you are innocent or guilty, especially innocent, NEVER answer police questions without your solictor/attorney present. Innocent people have been convicted for speaking. Whatever you say can and will be framed and twisted to jam you up.
Cant believe there's courses to get people to think
If poetic performance constitutes taxable income, I'll eat my hat. That's so unfair to Gerard.
That kid who was accused of killing the old lady was definitely on something
I was working in MCR that day it was really bad he shouldn't of walked in the shop
we only had 7 tv channels! my heart bleeds
250.000 quid 😂😂
What a dirty system .They all need to be fired .
19 and 29 and always physically fighting 🥴
He was messaging his boyfriend when he was in school the guy is a nonce.
Surely the young lads will be suing
that solicitor beth is a fit sort...
"The truth always comes through"
Solicitor literally starts shaking in panic thinking about all the money they might lose.
Get more clients, he wants you to commit crimes so he can get rich off you. He should be trying to stop crime. But then the system is designed from abuse. This guy wants you locked up. People like this feed off others abuse.
Not really they get silly crimes like loud noise at night lol so they get money for the smallest things
The clients commit crimes regardless, he was saying their firm wants to represent them rather than another firm. Its not the lawyers job to reduce crime
For smaller crimes I do actually believe that they should go hard on their community service and no criminal record to begin with that would be much better for society than paying to keep people in jail And actually give them a chance when they come out not to repeat out of desperation. Someone who goes in on something minor like drug crimes coming out with a criminal record and no extra qualifications plus having missed advancements in society like computers is just going to return to the same life purely out of desperation most likely.
Something minor like drug crime clearly a American who still can't see his country's rules are just,I could say the same for speeding as minor and remove all speed limits so we all can go potty,,Not getting a criminal record communal service presuming they turn up,Most of these fools won't see the GIFT just punishment and not getting paid
@@Johnketes54 sorry I didn’t quite understand what you mean by that could you rephrase it. I’m not American by the way.
33mins.. Gerard Butler on benefits?? No shame!! 😂😂
The UK have one of the highest Prison population’s in Europe.So perhaps the UK Courts need to look at non prison sentencing for victim less crimes otherwise like America it’s a self perpetuating Industry not a deterrent.
I take my hat of too the guy who said no to the 8 grand and took them to court. They spent more than 8 grand on there defence so you did still win mate. Took one for the team that’s all. That was about saying no this isn’t acceptable. Not taking a bribe. So good on you brother
No, he just wanted more cash 💰
18:07 that editing hahaha
Alex Parr I know hahaha
Who thinks Steven is a candidate for Britain's equivalent of Josef fritzl? 😂
wow there all pretty good ppl
All these innocent people
It’s funny how they don’t mention under the table deals that take place with defence and prosecution with out the clients knowledge. Facts that can prove innocence can also not be mentioned if agreed by both parties. Therefore the jury does not get the full picture. Its a shame when it’s someone’s life that’s at stake
Gerard butler as soon as he said sporadic work not a constant income i thought you would say that to claim your benefits,I know someone who was a children's entertainer who rub shoulders with the DWP, And treading a thin line
"I am out of the camera for few seconds only"
I am sorry, but it's 8 seconds, which in jewellery shop is enough time to get quite a bit of stuff and put it in your pocket.
And even if you didn't take anything - no need to get there in the first place, because stores quite often does this: they put all the stolen items on one person that they caught. So by entering that store he already became a thief, even if he didn't take anything.
Wouldn't shake hands with any of these fools
1st 10:00: I forgot the name of the guy that entered that jewelry store but he should’ve never entered that shop knowing it was robbed. Him just walking around in that shop even though he did not touch anything allegedly still put him down as an accessory to the crime.
Bri Vonn one of the dumbest comments on youtube
jewellery is how it is spelt in England and Britain. We are not yanks.
Yup it's called a strict liability offence
Well- he was acquitted so obviously not in this case. I think there was an element of malicious prosecution as so many rioters/ thieves were never brought to justice.
Anyone would go in let’s be honest someone could be hurt
18.00 he's on rock......
Question, and I am being serious here not trying to be funny or snarky. Why do all the lower middle class to poor have bad teeth in the UK when they have the NHS? Everyone knows the link between heart disease and poor oral care. In the US our poor get free dental work through medicaid and CHIP. Hope you read this in the spirit it was written as it is heartbreaking to see so many young people with serious dental issues.
On a relevant note, hats off to the defense attorneys. My cousin is one and believe me, there are a lot of decent people who are accused of crimes they did not commit.
It's because dental care isn't included in the NHS. You can get basic care but it's very basic.
Urm maybe because many don't brush their teeth, it's as that simple
Oh i miss Peace fm!
What kinda bad soliticitor tells you to plead guilty to a crime there is no evidence of?!
Did Marlon Dingle get off the hammer charge in the end?
I hope the monsters that pushed that elderly lady to the ground.Get a heavy sentence.All that poor lady had was her passed on husband's ashes.Shame on them how would they feel if it happened to their grandma.Poor lady my heart's crys for her 😓 and offers prays up 🙏 for her family.( family.(sometimes harsh to say I wish they would bring bk the (DEATH PENATE) they have it in Parts of America.They took that poor elderly ladies life in a horrid way.Life for Life.Bring bk the death PENATE (there would be less Murder and Crime.(sorry many may not agree.But this is how I feel.😓
Oh same woman, whose other ex literally smashed her head into the wall so bad he called the cops himself because he actually thought he killed her and she never filed charges. Funny how people work.
How can he get a 6 month community order when he is deemed not fit for work because believe me being on stage is not one of the options your given 😂😂😂
LOL. Its all a fuckin big joke Jr. Soon be who is eligable for the gas chambers with this lot!!
A community order doesn't always involved unpaid work. In his case it seems supervision, repayment of stolen monies and tagging and the conditions of the order. Unpaid work for the retired/ disabled are not really used.
You should be given 9 months for not wearing a t-shirt
The law worse than politics
The Allt's seem a really intelligent family, young Stephen has a bright future ahead of him
LOL.
My ex literally slapped me around forced me to sit in a chair, not move my head. I never called police anybody. yet she goes and gets drunk slams into the wall gets bruises all over her body and I almost got arrested. All she would’ve had to do is say yes he hit me and I go to jail.
That lad who got NFA, it was clear that the police had no evidence against him because they were unable to have him remanded
Is that always the case?
@@monze3942 depends on the seriousness of the alleged crime
@@stevefox3763 aggravated robbery
@@monze3942 There is no absolute guarantee someone accused of aggravated robbery would be remanded but it is highly likely given the violent nature of the offense.
@@stevefox3763 thank you
It’s a safe bet that nobody has ever accused Will Jenkins of being remotely bright, poor soul.
@31:40 wth is wrong with these solicitors, how dare these cowardly police use violence to that extent for a routine car stop, no amount of money with cover their guilt. I would callin the newspapers and let them answer for it....its disgusting.