Let's Talk About the Sinister Winner of Sins of Sinister - Dominion #1
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In today's video let's talk about the Sinister Winner of Sins of Sinister - Dominion #1, and why there might just be a 5th Sinister Clone that no one's talking about.
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♦️♠️♣️♥️👉🃏yes
Sebastian Shaw is the fifth
I feel legion could get dominion status.. he and mother rightsus will have there battle.i feel he is still a key player
This might be a little on the nose, but I think it's the original Nathaniel Essex.
We don't ACTUALLY see him die in that padded cell.
So what if he didn't die? What if something else happened?
What if he found a way to ascend?
Like through the connection HE has with all HIS clones and what they DO throughout the years?
"But hey...that's just a THEORY...A SINISTER THEORY!"
I think Mother Righteous is gonna be the magical enemy that Selene would have to be called for, and Oh, Selene is gonna enjoy having them beg for her help.
They got Scarlet Witch, Magik, and Storm (I hope eventually) to handle the magic stuff.
Now that the timeline is back to normal, I can stop being annoyed that Dr. Stasis was killed off before he could really do anything. I still want to see the 4 Sinisters interact with each other more.
This was a very interesting way to wrap of this event. Though with the 100 year parts of the timeskip we should have seen more of the 2099 characters.
Oh yeah. You are right about that.
That would imply that they were still alive at that point
@@jasondavis2995 yes
@@johnwright9049 well the story does span the 2099 time line. They coupd have gotten some type of node or cameo.
@@wagnercolbert737 yes
Personally, I wondered if it was the Original Essex who achieved dominion. Combining the powers of his four clones.
I love this idea
thats more likely than Joker Essex
Weren't the 4 created to carry on his ideas after he died?
I'm annoyed 3 Telepaths and 1 mutant who predominantly copies powers of Telepath was tricked by Mother Righteous. I'm most disappointed in Emma, who is usually the one to outplay others and Exodus, who has natural resistance to care or believe anything a nonmutant says. Not one searched through Mother Righteous mind and read memories, felt intentions, etc? I think we're missing part of the Quiet Council discussion, and it'll be covered in Xmen Red 11 and Immortal X-men 11, and that's why they did this to make M.R. think they believe her. If not, Quiet Council is dumb.
Some seem skeptical of her a little and will maybe work behind the scenes to uncover the truth, but I don't know if I'll find mutants getting duped by her long-term entertaining. Overall good event.
I would love a twist of the Dominion not being Sinster at all. Maybe someone like Destiny or Apocalypse played a long game over time in another timeline, or an actual hero of Krakoa achieving it just to make sure Sinster couldn't.
Then write it.
@jasondavis2995 Don't have to. Part of being a Sentient being is having thoughts, opinions, and feelings. I can be entertained by something as a whole but want improvement or variation. That's apart of life 🙂, happy I could help you learn this basic thing today.
Agreed! I was like HUH
Yes. I was surprised myself by Xavier and Emma. Xavier is never easily fooled. How can he be? 😅 this is gonna get interesting
@@Yennerf Right he's usually pretty sneaky about atleast searching through minds. It's in character for him to publicly be so positive/easy going but usually he has layer underneath. I'm hoping the quiet council is scheming. Maybe they had psychic conversation in between spoken one.
Congratulations on your collaboration with Comic break down. Love that guy.😊
I think Moira might be the one who reached dominion status. Just thinking about the end of X Lives/Death of Wolverine where we saw Moira had literally ascended into the Phalanx. It makes the most sense imo!
Sinister Moira?
Or just Moira?
Because it look like it was a Sinister that archived Dominion
Here’s a thought and hear me out… What if the sinister that took Dominion is the original Nathaniel Essex? Remember, at some point in his past, he served under Apocalypse and with the techno organic technology and Essex’s scientific prowess, he might’ve found a way to outclass the natural order of life itself, and has been in the shadows as dominion since. Also, I have a running theory that the high evolutionary has some play on this too since he is an evolutionary geneticist himself. It’s all speculation, but I honestly think that the winner of Dominion is the original Essex and that he didn’t die as presumed.
Ras4 was such a cool character in Powers of X. I am so glad they're using her in the story still.
Honestly hope she sticks around (maybe gets a new name).
Does she not know Mother righteous is also a sinister
i LIKE the JOKER idea, how the card sits outside the DECK
I'm very curious if the "Original" Nathaniel Essex that made the four Sinsters is still alive? Why create four Sinsters in the first place if you know youre going to die anyway, why would you care about them becoming a Dominion? Unless, of course, if he was using the work of those four to achieve Dominion himself and lied about his death.
He died of an illness in the 1800s. He created four clones so that he could live on in some way
@Nzosaba_Matenge We don't know if that's actually true. He just wrote it. Base trait of Sinster personality is narcissistic pov, lying and manipulating for self advancement and study.
Thought the same thing. Deaths are cheap in Comics.
That’s what I think too or it could be Moria. People forget the she was a geneticist too.
@Nebo600 That's a good choice too. Moira also proved how deceitful and cunning she can be.
I wonder if Kitty Pride will come to remember or notice some of the changes since it was shown in immortal X-Men that she's somewhat susceptible to sinister's timeline resets
It's kinda making sense, blerd you did mention a trickster phalanx who could've been a sinister. So you may he right on the money, and MR is getting feed. And not gonna lie it's kinda good Storm isn't with good terms with wakanda, cause if so MR would have not just the mutants but billion upon trillions and more ppl off planet earth and the EGOW would make her damn well unstoppable. I can already see how the mutants downfall
My prediction is that the 5th sinister is the original. They claim he died, but what if he alive and behind the scenes manipulating his clones to swoop in in whichever one meets his goal.
Nahhhh..... They never said he died.... Destiny said it "remains to be seen" if he was actually dead in immortal X-Men .... The original sinister being the joker in the deck is my guess too
I'd love it if you, Comic Book Herald, & Comic Breakdown could all get together for a podcast.
Legion would be a great team title for a team that is or isn’t. I’m surprise that hasn’t been written yet his character on a team, depending on how he felt and who he could be at any moment, would be amazing if handle right
True he's a whole team by himself with all the powers he has alone.
What if it's the original Sinister who supposedly died
That's what I was thinking
Joker? Time for a Marvel/DC multipart event!!!😂
I honestly think after this series, Sinister has to go down as one of the baddest Villains in Marvel history. I’m mean this dude killed off over 8 quadrillion people/mutants. These are Thanos and Doom numbers. And now it’s possible a variant of Sinister may be a Dominion. This is no joke.
Mr. Sinister is definitely earned his place in Marvel/X-men comics hall of fame.
Jon Ironfire is one of my new favorite mutants and even characters period he was so solid the whole story dude has that dog in him
12:30 - i had a random thought about a 5th Sinister, but I didn't consider the Joker spin until just before you said it. But I'm thinking the ORIGINAL Nathaniel Essex. They **claim** he's really dead-dead, but we all know how that goes in comics. I'm **almost** willing to wager that Essex faked his death, because it seems that the best way to be the most powerful Sinister is to be the FIRST Sinister... 🤔
I feel you on the joker theory...a joker is a eild card...and this unknown "sinister" presence is a wild card scenerio if I have ever known one to be
Ernie 3 theories I have is what if the 4 Sinister ‘s merged to create an ultimate Sinister in another timeline.
Or the Joker Sinister, could be the OG Sinister because who made those 4 Sinisters in the first place?
My last theory is, it could be Moria herself. People forget she was a geneticist, what if she knew about what Sinisters goal in another timeline and created the 4 Sinister in all of her timelines? SOS is setting up cool possibilities for the Marvel universe as a whole.
A "Joker" Essex = "Trickster Titan"!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯. That makes a LOT of sense!!!!
A good way to wrap up the timeline.
The Joker face idea could work but I remember one thing; in a deck of cards, there’s two Jokers. One black and one red. I reckon that, if a Sinister reached Dominion status, I reckon it was actually 2. A real pair of jokers.
Never forget the last theory video Ernie did, it turned out to be the plot of Sinister gene for Sins of Sinister…. So at this point, it’s probably a spoiler leak and I’m gladly here for it lol
As much as I want to, i can't bring myself to hate on Mother Righteous. She is playing the long con to near perfection, and I respect her game.
so is destiny...
The enitre sins of sinister event was awesome!!! It was so unpredictable, only critique is the other two sinisters should of been in the game longer. Otherwise you basically know it's just lady sinister v mr sinister
I'm betting that it's the original Sinister who became a Dominion.
Moira has apocalypse tech and memories. So 4 quiet council members is convenient.
Blerd without Fear - I say stupid and sometimes off the chain things but seriously i really appreciate your videos and will continue to watch.
I wish they would stop trying to make Mother Righteous a thing. I don't find her particularly interesting or threatening. Also, I guess that's pretty much the end of the Resurrection Protocols with Hope out of the picture, at least for now.
Mother Righteous has fast climbed the ladder to stand alongside the best Marvel villains.❤❤
You are good at this sir.
Blerd my friend YOU are doing the most and I LOVE it. I have been watching you grow into yourself. Comic book herald. Ok then. I listen to him also. I like your Cave show and how you collaborate with others in the game.
I have mentioned this to black bloggers and commentators that they should take a page out of your play book and get TOGETHER with their different point of view and perspectives. Share their audience. Be well my brother im rooting for ya.
I really enjoyed SoS and to me, it sticked the landing. I am happy it went fast and didn't overstay it's welcome :)
Loved this review and all the coverage of the Sins of Sinister event. Great job, Blerd!
Adam X that's a deep cut! We don't talk about him and we don't talk about Josiah X either! I'm still trying to figure out what happened to him😅
Blerd for life.. waitn on the collab with the othe comic dude.. lol
Finally, someone said it!!! I had the same theory that there is a another Sinister out there. It is a Joker or.......since all of them are basically clones, the actual FIRST BORN Sinister gained domain and he is actually the one that is basically controling all the Sinisters. He is like the Borg from Star Trek but on a organic level and almost like the one above all but for mutants or the beyonder.
Mother Righteous is eating right now 😂
Wait. Did Charles get put in the pit WITH Cerebro?
I love your videos. Keep up the good work :)
I agree with a previous commenter. How can the Quiet Council be so quit to trust Mother Righteous? I'm so sick of the Quiet Council. Krakoa needs new leadership. Why aren't the telepaths trying to read her mind? Who is she? What is she? What does she want? What powers does she have? Why are they not asking questions? How can they be so quick to trust Rasputin?
Loved this story ❤
I think the Dominion could still be achieved by one of the other three Essexes. I think because we see this from Sinisters perspective (plan), we can only really say that he failed. The other's could, in this "new" timeline, still get Dominion. Right now, Mother Righteous is seriously in the running with all the additional favor she gained from preventing the sins of sinister timeline, the new library, and the color of the Dominion being red.
I think the Dominion is sinister wife or somebody he knew who died before he met apocalypse because when destiny met sinister in the late 1800s it was the original version of him who was killed by a red light which he recognized that he says was a ghost before it killed him it might be the same dominion in this story.
Sinister is the Kendall Roy of Comics. If there's an L to his get it 😂😂
@blerdwithoutfear who do you think will be the first on Krakoa to become skeptical of Mother Righteous?
Seems like Storm bought into this pretty early.
Shaw.
I wonder how MR's powers work? Can she block precogs, psychics and telepaths?
That theory about why Moira is on point about exploiting sinister for her anti mutants objective🔥🔥🔥🔥
Best colab coming
And make it look easy!
I'm waiting for Sinister Diamond, Heart, Spade, Club. But what about Sinister Uno Reverse? eh?
An overall great story….I’m excited for when the TPB drops.
Did we ever get a resolution to what Irene told Essex in Immortal #1?🤔
Guessing we’re in for even more shenanigans during Fall of X 🔥🔥
I don't believe so.
A joker sinister makes a little sense. In this game of suits (much like a game of spades) the joker is the most powerful card (big joker and little joker) so, what if the original Nathaniel Essex resurrected was the joker?
I enjoyed it a lot!
I never fully understood how the “info download” made it back to the past. Why didnt the actions of gathering the info get reset as well?
It was not better than Age Of Apocalypse that book was so good. But I love Mothers Righteous and Rasputin they are awesome!!
Saw your discussion with comic Breakdown 🔥 🔥
Do not forget, Thor can hear folks across the cosmos praying to him... Prince can make it rain @ the Superbowl on cue... Beyonceé ca... Lemme chill
Wait, I just thought of something during this breakdown:
If faith in an individual empowers them to near godhood wouldn't this effect also be empowering Apocalypse and Genesis? The people of Arakko worship the two of them like gods, and there was even an Arakki mutant (Ora Serrata) that took on the task of judging, hunting and capturing/killing gods, as well as creating the god Tumult. Genesis also has the Amenthi daemons under her command since Saturnyne converted the helm of Annihilation into a staff. I wonder if all of that will play a part when Apocalypse and Genesis return with their kids to clap the Children of the Vault?
No. Their abilities aren't faith-based.
@@jasondavis2995 Mother Righteous is a clone of Sinister (Essex). Her powers aren't faith based in as much as she uses magic and has figured out how to harness the power of faith like other gods do (faith derived power that increases her magical potential). Apocalypse and Genesis also generate faith and it's been shown that both of them also wield magic as well, they just haven't tapped into that faith based power, but the potential and power source (Arakki faith and Amenthi daemon worship/control) is there. I'm just wondering if that will come into play.
Liked it.😊
This reset is going to be crazy. We have the OG Beyonder in play, God level Sinister, and as of the end of Space Hulk a Leader still doing sus stuff behind the Green door.
The leader isn't in the below place, he was rescued from TOBA by Hulk and Joe Fixit.
Also I think the Green Doors were closed at the end of Immortal Hulk
@@TupocalypseShakur well their is someone down there that looks like leader who can open and close the green door.
We need a video just about the chimeras please
Did I miss the Orphan Maddroxes or are they stil teasing us with Orphan Maker’s potential?
Rasputin and Frenzy need to link up since they're badasses that keep putting their faith in the wrong leader
Not bad, BLERD. Moira told of a “Trickster Dominion” Synonym of Trickster is Joker.
Gonna call it now, forget Joker Essex clone, the one that already won is a straight Reverse Uno. They're a whole other card game. 😂
I think Legion from the future broke through the timeline to warn his present self of mother righteous if he that OP.... Also KID OMEGA coming back old definitely tying in somewhere frfr
I’m really looking forward to Mother Righteous continuing on. Joker theory makes sense - giving Destiny a long con to be wrapped up in. Was hoping Destiny might be the one to get dominion but so long as she’s sided with it that vibes with where I thought things might go.
The London bridge in az?! I live in Phoenix and now I wanna know
That would explain the joker card at the end......
Exactly their four summer bros no talk about
Hm, Mother Righteous has to have a weakness to her faith. Not just by being a Sinister clone, not just by having people stop believing her, but the way she goes about getting power? There has to be a way around it. Can anyone step back from giving her "thanks"? We don't know yet
We could have a Joker Sinister. Plus pay attention to mutants death number it is off by three numbers indicating we could have three survivors...at least I liked to believe that, I know it not Rasputin 4 because she was born in the correct timeline.
Honestly you can slap whatever symbol you want on Essex forehead and make it do anything you want! Omega Sinister, Infinite Sinister
The theory about the joker seems plausible, but it also could be a stray clone of Sinister that got away. I know that, at one point, some of his clones developed their own personalities. Im pretty sure Moira knows what happened and that is most likely the reason why she neutralized the clones. Of all ppl, Destiny should already know that Mother Righteous can not be trusted. So many teases to what causes the start of the Fall of X, but im pretty sure that its going to be Sabertooth attacking at the Hellfire Gala that sets off the event
Jon ham needs to play him. In a stand alone
I gotta say, I wasn't the biggest fan of Mother Righteous until this. Nothing against her, she just always seemed kind of meh to me-which is weird since I've consistently enjoyed Way of X, Legion of X, Nightcrawlers, etc. I guess I just felt like she was too far out there compared to the rest of the Sinisters.
This issue, though. This is the one that finally sold me on going all in on this character. Now I'm more excited than ever to see what happens in Sons of X, Sinister Four, and all the rest of them
Blerd question. Superman vs apocalypse who you got and why?
Sinister has another card or Sinister prime. I was also thinking perhaps the Golden baby couldve been the one that accended. The baby in stases constantly being told mother Righteous ( ❤ ) is good. So the baby gave her all the info. Just an idea...
But im thinking Sinister Prime.
Thank God for this because it's SO much shit I didn't understand.
Miss Sinister 🤯😱
If there are 4 pods then there has to be an original. Which means that there are 2 diamond Sinisters
Maybe not a Joker but the original Sinister?
Whhhhat!!!!!! Emma and Hope in the pit!!!! NOOOOOOO 😢 at least we have Storm and Mystique lol the gays will be okay but loosing Emma is painful 😭
The 5th Sinister could be the original Nathaniel Essex
Right now Krakoa has a problem with resurrection. Hope was the one who unkowlingly was fixing Sinister's tampering, and right now she is in the Pit, because she is Sinisterized. This means they can't resurrect any mutants right now, because anyone they resurrect would become Sinisterized without Hope fixing it.
Krokoa still have Mimic (he's not confident within himself to do the job) and Synch (as long as everyone outside of Hope
didn't die, he won't be forced to recall any of their powers and age him rapidly).
@@JT-fq2bl The problem here is that they won't be able to fix the Sinisterization, that Hope unkowingly fixed every time. So if they resurrect anyone, that person will be Sinisterized.
I'm out here thinking the reveal for the world at Hellfire 3 might either be that the council no longer has its biggest combat telepaths or that they get told resurrection is put on hold for now if they can't figure out a workaround for hope
Didn’t sinister make a clone of himself mixed with Tarn the uncaring in helions?
it was supposedly destroyed when havok blew up the lab
Only 3 mutants survived. Wagerine, her child, and who counts as the 3rd? John Ironfire? Shaw? Rasputin IV? Who counts as 3?
"Moira VII.1.RPIV growth cycle begun."
Does this mean Moira and Rasputin IV are one in the same person?
what if Mother Righteous is related to Exodus? they have the same skin color.
10:39 I am interested in the opposite of what faith does to someone who does not have good intent. This series has been great for opening up rules for different power sets.
Mother righteous is completely self serving and it doesn't seem to do anything bad to her 😅
off topic- if i am new to comics, but love Legions character, which comics would be the best Legion story to buy??
I like that theory a joker sinister 🤔
And perhaps that "joker Sinister" is the one who clone the others???😮
Yes this is what I was waiting for, thank you Blerd!❤ Also, it seems like Emma can't get a break, and also, I'm not a fan of them trusting stranger too easy. Once again I hate that Irene got away with it again. Also, are you ready for the Days if Past series?
makes sense why him and gambit ....have some history ... btw in spades it's 3 jokers in spades....
I don't know all the details of this story, but if there's four pods, there had to be an original. Did something happen to them during this story?