Why Isn't Italy Named Romania After The Romans?
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Nearly every country on earth is named after one of four things: qz.com/1070266...
Balkanology: Romania: www.balkanology...
When Did Romania Become Known as the Country by that name?: www.roconsulbos...
Romania History Timeline: romaniatourism....
Dacia on Encyclopaedia Britannica: www.britannica...
A Brief History of the Roman Conquest of Dacia: cassandralegacy...
Italy on Etymonline: www.etymonline...
Origins of the Name Italy: www.yourguideto...
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Burebista: forvo.com/word...
Dacia: forvo.com/word...
Vitali: forvo.com/word...
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SPQR: Lamré
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I was worried this video topic might seem a stretch, I asked people about it and they had never even connect Romans & Romania in their heads, but glad to see initial positive reaction. Thank you all
Name Explain Do Bulgaria next
I've thought about it since the Roman Empire covered many areas and Latin originated important languages used today. All these Roma, Romania, Romani... So interesting.
I find it interesting you pronouncing "Balkans" as a mix of "Balkan" and "Falklands"
This was a great video. Feels like a classic video of yours and are why I watch this channel.
It's true. Romania is called after the invadors, but it's not just that. The name was used in order to let people know that 'hey, we aren't hungarians ,russians or anything else' . This way , our latin origins were way overestimated . Nowadays,some people think that it would be better if the name would change to Dacia.
Btw loved your video ❤️ and how you said 'Burebista'😁
Just to be clear, Sicily and Sardinia are still part of Italy :)
ChristianIce but not Naples, am I correct?
Sir Jack Naples belongs to Italy alright
@@hheely20 I don't think it's true, I was in Italy last year and you could feel the hate they have towards naples, I have to assume it's some kind of independent state
Not for long.
Sir Jack it’s not indipendent, they might hate people from Northern Italy, but it doesn’t mean they can do what they want lmao
I don’t care
Italians
French
Spanish
Romanian
Portuguese
We are all a big Latin family
Love from Italy
I would all these countries to do more things together, as brothers as well we are.
The funny thing is that before the all world they are really little countries but If they assemble today to make the Neo Roman empire and successfully blend their culture together ( kind of like UK ) they would be one of the most powerful country of the world . In the same category of russia ,China and USA ( but still behind USA ) .
GERMANICS UNITE!
I learned to talk Romanian because my mom is Romanian and my dad Italian and it was very easy since words were very similar like bread:
Can you spot the Italian and Romanian without traslate or knowing the language
Paine
Pane
The French are in fact a Germanic people speaking a romanized Celtic origin language :D The vast part of the
modern Romanian language is neologism borrowed from French and italian
Rome: Nice gold you've got over there...
USA: Nice oil you've got over there...
TheDaemon I made that comparison too in my head and I expected someone to comment this 😂😂😂
Exactly my thoughts! I was surprised no one had yet published it, so I did it xD
Andi CRIMSON Cmon bro I'm actually American and we indirectly Occupy 100s of nations and have overthrown dozens of legitimate democracys in more wars and conflicts than any nation since WWII to further our dominance in the world. We are not some force for good just like the Roman's weren't. We are about power and conquest today just isn't the day of direct imperialism that's the only difference between the US and Rome.
Andi CRIMSON just because Russia is terrible don't think America is some great morally responsible nation we have committed many atrocities and war crimes and even murdered more innocent civilians than any other nation since WWII. Russia is a terrible brutal nation as well but there are no good guys here none.
Remember how Rome fell.
Let's think how the USA will fall.
It's worth at least mentioning that the "Byzantine Empire" as we call it, who we must remember always referred to themselves as "Romans", did also use the name "Romania" to refer to their lands, though it was one of several.
Wallachia , a region ( back then a principality) co existed among the byzantines , and people there also called their land Romania , so ...
The ottomans called themselfs also romans. mehmed II who took constantinople called himself kayser i rum which litterally means roman ceasar.
@@kaanerdem2822 For clearly other reasons tho.
It was the eastern Roman empire.
Yes for the last 1000 years of the Roman Empire's existence the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire
Great video. I learned a lot from this video.
Just one thing: Dacians had nothing to do with Slavs. Dacians were an unique ethnic group of their own, and slavs did not even exist in the Balkans during this time. They only migrated in the region during the 6th, 7th and 8th century CE.
ALBANIA=ILLYRIA
SERBIA = WORLD
They say in that era that you can't difference the romans by the dacians and viceversa because they all looked the same
Actually Burebista ( the first dacian king ) had some anti-slav campains
And România is dacia
In Italy we have a Region called " Romagna" . The region used to be called Romania because of...the byzantine empire( who still called themselves Romans) .The region hosted the Esarcate of Ravenna , wich was a powerful byzantine stronghold with Ravenna as capital just before Lombard territories up North. The name stuck even after lombard conquest in 751.
I think the country is also called Romania because of the Byzantine Empire. When the Turks took Constantinople many believers retreated here, in Romania.
The byzantines called themselves Romans becuase the Byzantine Empire is politically the same thing as the Eastern Roman Empire
@@alonia09the BE and the ERE are the same thing in every sense, I mean not just "politically" but literally the terms are synonymous.
Maybe you wanted to point out that the BE is politically the same as the RE (as a whole)
Furthermore medieval Romans never used Byzantine refering to themselves, because that adjective didn't even exist in those times. Byzantine is a western historiography's made term in order to distinguish medieval phase of Roman empire (centered on Costantinople, i.e. Byzantium) from classical phase (centered on Rome).
@@sarantis1995 The onky thing is the Byzantine Empire was never used as actual name by the empire it was a name given by some western guy. The Byzantine Empire is considered a different phase of it which is *culturally* different as it has more greek culture
Dacia: "There's gold in them there hills!"
Rome: "Its free real estate."
România ia dacia
@@ToaderMatei vrajeli
@@ToaderMatei România=Italia/Moldavia=Dacia
@@andradaacarpei3752 cum sa fie Romania Italia daca in Italia vorbesc doua dialecte diferite iar noi ne înțelegem cu cei din Moldova s-au făcut teste biologice am păstrat sărbători noi suntem daci
@@andradaacarpei3752 VRAJELI DAR NOI AVEM DOVEZI
Italians are the closest decendants of the Romans. Romania is a great country, i hope I visit someday. Much love from Greece "Una faccia una razza"!
Viva la bella Grecia
Not much left of it. Bunch of losers in Italy now.
Romania used to be where Rome is today in Italy.
actually the actual italians nowaddays are mostly descendants of various barbarian groups invading and mixing with the latind namely lombardians, goths, etc
Well, the closest language is Sardinian not standard Italian
In fact romanian has 70% latin words.(Hello to other cousins like France,Italy,Spain,Portugal)😘
Your language is quite diferent to portuguese, speak "hello, how are you" em português "olá, tudo bem?"
@宮殿ロベルト is like french parece francês
@@DEJUNHODE-SAOCARLOS he said that romanian and portugues are almost the same, not english.
Rom: totul bine?
Portugues: tudo bem?
@@valentind8279 i meant it.
@@DEJUNHODE-SAOCARLOS In Romanian we would say "Salut, ce faci?" Actually, ce faci means what are you doing, but we use it to mean how are you. For how are you we would say "cum eşti?". Also "tudo bem?" sounds like "totul bine?". They are similar, but we have many ways to say things :)
so Italians are named after cows?
lol Holy COW!
Also, Moldova is called after a dog
Actually, Moldova is called after the river Moldova (in Romania) which was called after a dog named Molda. History101
Vitalia means ''full of life'' and not ''full of cattle'', therefor VITA means LIFE in Italian still now a days
Yes.Massimiliano.but.it.also.means.Caw....Vita=Caw.
I was just in Romania and was talking with the Uber driver. I mentioned how many people don't know that Romanian is a Latin language and he told me, "Almost, Latin is a Romanian language."
I believe the *are* some theories romanian was actually a predeccessor to latin at one point and still is around,with it coming from the belief that the italiand weren't just influenced by greece,but also by the dacians which supposedly spoke basically romanian without roman/greek influences,tho I really dkn't remember it so it's probably different,I just know my dad tried to explain it to me once since he's fully into the idea romanians are near pure dacians and that we were the place Eden in biblical stories is based off of,though there isn't really,y'know,any real evidence so I'm still gonna go with the more commonly known truth over the conspiracies of ultimate grandure.
What he told you is what the secretary of Pope John Paul told us, that in the Vatican they have documents which state that Latin is a Romanian language rather than the other way around.
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Well, there are people in Romania who can't easily accept the fact that they were Romanized, but either can they deny that the language they speak is related to Latin. I mean, if you are a Romanian and read or hear Italian or Latin, it's impossible not to feel the connection. So, the language connection being undeniable, in a reversal of history, they came up with the idea that it was actually the Dacians who founded Rome and that Latin was actually some sort of Dacian dialect. I shit you not.
IsThisReal we weren’t romanized our forefathers had spoken a form of Vulgar Latin and only 20 percent of Dacia was taken over and only for 150 years and in that measly time the Romans had taken enough gold that no one in Rome had to work for 12 years
Why didn’t you marked as Italy Sicily and Sardinia too?
-A disappointed italian
@Serban that's sad tho because sardinia contributed the mosy for the unification of italy
My first thought reading your comment was "Oh common, who actually cares about that stuff, it's obviously an oversight". But then I would also be kind of triggered if a map of Romania didn't have Transylvania in it. So I understand.
@@daciaromana2396 based romanian comment section
@@hatakekitama3953 lol Piedmont*, not sardinia. "Kingdom of Sardinia" was the name after ALSO Sardinia was annexed to the kingdom of Savoy, but the capital was in Piedmont (Torino or Turin in english), the royal family was in Turin and literally everything was in Piedmont (wich, by the way, is called Piemonte in Italian). And it's also a fact that the Sardinians were, for most of the Italian history, excluded and isolated from the rest of the peninsula: to this day they feel really isolated from what's happening to the rest of Italy, it's just an historical fact. So no, I wouldn't say they "helped" with most of the reunification, as it was done by Savoy royal family, a piedmontese family.
@@mattiadanielplatania ah i see thx for the explanation
I conducted business with a Romanian immigrant a couple years ago. He was proud of their Roman heritage.
We all are. It's what makes us unique
@@georgianapopescu1333 , toate popoarele sunt mândre de propria identitate. Deci chiar nu suntem unici.
@@BartSimpson-jd2vs Nu spuneam ca suntem unici pentru ca ne mandrim cu identitatea noastra, ci invers, ca suntem mandri pentru ca suntem unici. and that's ok. crede-ma, chiar nu sunt genul care sa fie nationalista dar sunt mandra de originea mea romana intr-un anumit sens pentru ca mi se pare foarte interesanta formarea noastra. e ok sa fii mandru de originile tale, ce nu e ok e sa te crezi cel mai tare din parcare pentru ca ai anumite origini (ceea ce de multe ori e cazul la romani)
@@BartSimpson-jd2vs El se refera la faptul ca suntem urmasii Romei intro zona unde nu se vorbeste limbi trase din Latina. De aia suntem unici, si de aia ne mandrim. Nu ca avem o mandrie mai mare decat alte tari.
Maybe only a bit of cultural heritage . Thats it. It Is like the british heritage of Zulu
As a Romanian, I really appreciate you putting in the time and research.
Ironically, he called Balkans the Balklands.
Balkans? Balklands? Balkanlands?
Guy is a moron
*Balkanville
Mihail Nikoloff I guess. Just cringed everytime he says Sueta for Ceuta.
I'm not sure you know what qualifies as ironic.
Italy is in English. "Italia" is the name....👍😎👆🇮🇹
In romanian we also say Italia
In filipino, we call italy : italia. Our language was influenced by the spaniards because of the colonization
In Albania we say Itali
In Hungary we say Olaszország 🤷♂️
Why English feel the need to change the name of countries
@1:40 '. . . Roman emperor Tarzan . . .'
Dude, his name was Trajan (TRAY-jun).
h lynn keith - does Latin even have a letter J? I thought it was an English invention.
Yeah, you are correct. So his name would be Traian (TRAI-yun). But he pronounced it 'Tarzan' at 1:40.
To be honest, I didn't catch his pronunciation of Tarzan. Good catch.
Skip Alidon Furthermore, he pronounced "Vitalia" incorrect. In Latin, the "v" is pronounced like a "w". So it would be "Wit-ah-lee-a".
Tray-anne ("an" like in word "another")
Romanian here, the little tribe in the boot of Italy was named Vitalia, and it was populated with cattle, în romania we call them "vite" 😁
Oh yes, "Vite" in Romanian means calf.
vită =Din latină vīta („viață”),de unde o fi latina
@Roblox Troll I forgot to use the special characters, my mistake.
Adica "vitele" de italieni ? sau VITAlieni ? :D , numai bine !
@@VALERYAN581 ai dreptate, România e cea mai frumoasã țarã! Cu politicieni care furã!!!!
1:39 "Roman emperor Tarzan invaded it" Lmao his name is pronounced Tray-juhn, dude.
Feynstein 100 lol
Doubly notable since it flashes "Trajan" on the screen as he says it.
Feynstein 100 I thought it was Trayan
Thank you now I have an image of Tarzan wearing purple imperial robes stuck in my head
Feynstein 100 Actually if we talk about his real name, it's Traianus, pronunced Trayanus
Italy was Italy hundreds years before romans. Even for romans, their home nation it was called Italy and they always considered themselves just one of the people of Italy, as it was from the early morning of the history.
xRlly This is false and you know
Haha you stupid fuck...
@Jizldiedizl B don't mind him.
Not every romanian is as brainwashed as him.
He's probably an 11 years old kid who playes Minecraft and has nothing to do with history.
@@andreipop5805 , I subscribe. That guy certainly do not represent Romanians. Not all of us suffer from 2 digits iq's !
stfu kid romania sux
Nice to see a video attesting our latin root. proud 🇷🇴 romanian here.
Și eu! 🇷🇴
Și eu!❤🇷🇴
De fapt , se pare că este exact invers - limba latina provine din daca și nu romana din latină și asta explică multe , 😅 . Uitați-vă la declarațiile făcute de Micheal Ledwit , fostul consilier al lui papa , după ce a citit multe cărți neaccesibile publicului larg din biblioteca Vaticanului 😅
You don't ha e Latin root at all its a biggest fake history ever 😂😢
@vesszentrianon75 fake history is just for Hungary ! See battle of Mohi and the destruction of Hungary ! 🤣
Why isn't Greece called Hellas.
It is inn norwegian
Stormy Molnjavichen Because "Hellas" never existed. Even modern Greeks are a lot closer to the Romans than they are to the ancient Greeks. They were the medieval Romans after all. But modern "Greeks" like to hide this fact under the rug because it is inconvenient to their current national agenda.
+Ulpian Heritor "Hellas" existed as a general description of the wider Greek-speaking world of antiquity, it wasn't the name of a polity. "Hellenes" is as old of an endonym as it gets and there is no earlier all-inclusive term to encompass Greeks that we know of. "Graecus", "Yunan" etc are all tribe-specific from the ones Italic peoples and Persians met first respectively. "Hellenes" is in fact a pertinent term.
Also, you are committing to a logical fallacy. All people are closer to their medieval ancestors than the ancient ones, that doesn't mean the medieval ancestors had no equity or connection to the more ancient ancestors or that these are 2 mutually exclusive ideas. That's like saying modern Armenians have nothing to do with ancient Armenians because they are more similar to medieval Armenians. It's a complete non sequitur.
Not only that, but even if you back to the middle ages, there were self-conscious ethnic Greeks in the mid/late medieval period. Namely Alexios Komnenos was portrayed purposefully as a classical Greek hero in the Alexiad, ancient Athenian pronoia was invoked in the creation of the Archontopouloi regiment and the Palaiologoi spoke of themselves and their subjects as "children of both Romans and Hellenes". The emergent classicism and idolization of antiquity is much older than you may think.
And of course, in order to demonstrate the direct continuity of ancient and medieval Greeks, one can easily reference the countless ancient Greek documents preserved, copied, analyzed and commented upon by medieval Roman scholars. Much of Arab learning and connection to ancient Greek literature was done via obtaining said documents from the Romans. Late Hellenistic architecture and art are unmistakably relevant in the emergence of early Christian (and hence Orthodox) art. For example, the halos around saints' heads was a Hellenistic trend to signify exalted individuals such as philosophers.
Early Christianity and its theology was largely based on Neo-Platonic ideas, for example the idea of "Logos" the Divine Word/Reason. When early theology was established officially, the Greek-speaking Anatolian bulk basically dictated its form over the Miaphysites of Egypt and the Levant or the Arians of western Europe.
And to top it all off, you are grossly exaggerating how little regard Greeks have for their medieval ancestors. "Byzantium" is seen as a second golden age akin to the Hellenistic period and many people (usually religious ones, but not only) look back to it as the true apogee of Greek statehood. If anything, the confusion and historical inaccuracies begin when Greeks look at "Byzantium" as not Roman and instead exclusively Greek, which it wasn't. But the very fact they do shows a reverence and sense of belonging that disproves your claim. And all that without being at the cost of the reverence of their ancient ancestors.
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It is called hellas.
It is in Greek. And in fact, the official English name of Greece is 'Hellenic Republic'.
Burebista’s kingdom actually stretched all the way to modern Poland and Ukraine
Yep! There are quite a few historians sharing the opinion that Dacians where in fact celtic/gothic in origin. But this Burebista guy united them all and helped them focus by setting fire to all grapevines. He had a high priest (Deceneu) which noticed that the Dacians were more involved in making wine than, you know, extract gold, build fortresses and working in general.
@@dorinp007 that was common for the balkan populations other then ancient greeks.
They loved to make wine.
@@dorinp007 they were thracians...
@@gigasigma8373 In fact we still do!
@@dorinp007 yes i know.
Romans ranked the illyrian wine on the top 3 best wines of the whole empire and its still being produced in albania.
Actually there is a region in Italy named Romagna, which has the same etymology as Romania. It was named like this since it was the piece of land ruled by the Roman (Byzantine) Empire after the Lombard conquest of Italy. The Lombard land, aka Lombardia, is in the fact the name of another Italian region.
Terra del Longobardi, cioe' uomini dalle lunghe bardi (Lance)
Fun fact, in Italy there's a region called Romagna (from middle-latin Romania, a reference to the fact that it was under the Byzantine empire long after the western Roman empire had collapsed), so I guess you could say at least a bit of Italy is called after the Romans, right ? Ahahah
Jacopo Stringara: ...and the capital of Rome (Roma)
Also, during the Middle Ages Romania did not refer to to modern day Romania but instead it referred to the Balkan penninsula because that was the heartland of the Eastern Roman Empire. Romania was the common name of the area prior to the Ottoman Empire, who introduced the Turkic rooted word "Balkan". How cool would it be if we still called the Balkans Romania?
marvelfannumber1 ale o romania have the idea of "bizantium after byzantium" that how Byzantin Empire fall they need to take they place.
And in central Italy there's a region called after the first Romans, the Latins: Latium/Lazio.
marvelfannumber1 Wasn't it more like "Rumelia"? I remember having heard this word a few times in relation to that
It's not Balklands, it's Balkans.
and romania is not on the balkan peninsula
erm,it's southern bit is in the balkans,meaning the regions of Muntenia Oltenia and Debrogea,are in the balkans
Because Turks called it Balkans so every country said Balkans too
Actualy it is Balkani. Balkans is just stupid west thing lol.
Well, since you speak in the stupid western language, and in this stupid western language it's Balkans, then I guess you don't really think so, huh.
"History is written by the winners"
joben1414 Joben they were never winners. I think that Decebal didn't commit suicide. And he capitulated with a big reason. The most important secret of the mankind. Dacians were not barbars and Rome never captured the entire territory. They only got 19%.
easy way I would show a picure of you're mother before she meet you're dad but you'll just going to cry so... better not to.
easy way no, no argument.
But based on your previous comments and comment wars with others I can just day that you are a idiotic ultra-nationalistc piece of shit.
Andrei Pop Don't mimd him, he's just a troll os something who likes to irritate people around.
Just look other comment sections with him in.
The best technique is passed by the survivors .
~ Gaiden Shinji 2e
"The fairest and most courageous of men."
Herodot
Courageous as in lacking the sense of danger.
@@BartSimpson-jd2vs Courageous ad literam ... as in the dictionary.
Why do people in the West say Romania is a Balkan country? I live in the Balkans and we don't consider Romania Balkan.
Because they are dumb and they see Romania as a poor country
Because the region is called Balkan. Isnt that obvious?
Steros Romania isn’t a Balkan country
Because of historical ties to the Ottoman Empire and to the Slavic peoples to the south, despite the language being a Romance language. Romanian was written in Cyrillic until the 1860s, and "Moldavian/Moldovan" until the 1990s. It's due to history/inertia.
Because Romania is a part of the Balkans...well a tiny part of it. Geographically Dobruja is a part of the Balkans.
Rome Went Crazy For Gold,
America Goes Crazy For Oil.
History Is Like Poetry.
@@MrMuaythai84 you mean U.S.
+Jerry Gaming
"America" is not a country.
The oil situation is actually stable now. This meme is so 2005.
Actually salt was more valuable than gold at the time.
We have oil - relax.
actually, the name Romania exists in Greece too. The Greek people in the times of Byzantine Empires were called "Romioi"(Ρωμιοί) which means citizens of Rome, but the people changed the actual meaning to Greek. Because the name Έλληνας(Hellen) was used by Romans when mocking Greeks, they started calling themselves Romioi(Ρωμιοί). Until the 20th century people of old age would still call themselves as Romioi, and Greek-ness as Romania(Ρωμανία). There are many places in the Greek region of the Balkans with that name like
-Roumeli(Ρούμελη), reffered to Central Greece, means Land of Greeks.
-Roumlouki(Ρουμλούκι), reffered to the Macedonian region around mount Olympos, means Place of Greeks
-Romelia(Ρωμυλία), reffered to northern Thrace-south Bulgaria, also means Land of Greeks.
These names are Turkish, because the Turkish called Greeks Rum, meaning Romioi.
Funny thing is, Southern Italy and Sicelia inhabitants are mostly of Greek descent. Una razza una fazza.
I thought Hellens was assimilated by the people of all the areas of Greece as a symbol of union during the 1st Greek Colonialism
Just a correction, noone mocked the Greeks by calling them Hellenes. It's just that the word Hellenes ended up being synonymus to believing in the Greco-Roman Pantheon and after the empire adopted Christianity, one would not call himself that for obvious reasons.
George Tsech Hellene was a derogatory term back then and it meant pagan. One of the ways Greeks adopted Christianity.
Latin Union Mapper ci riusciremo.Prima o dopo
Dimitry Alexander Actually in the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) only Greeks were considered and called themselves romans/Ρώμιοι. Bulgarians, Albanians and the slavs weren't called "romans" and didn't consider themselves romans either.
strange shapes of brotherhood: the Boot and the Fish! :)))
Romanian here, love your channel.
Andrei2929 English here, love you for loving the channel :)
;)
Un roman in plus.
Buna ziua
Ce Metin joci?
Hi, as a Romanian, it never even occured to me that the name of our nation was originated from the capital of another country. Also, we don't see romans in Romania as invaders, we identify as the children of both Dacians and Romans. Our "roman heritage" is a point of pride, emperor Trajan even being mentioned in our national anthem
Its not a capitol its the whole nation.All who lived in the roman empire were consideret Romans!
Romanian pseudo history glorifies the ancient peoples which they have no relations with
But of course u have to invent some history, everybody is doing it on the Balkans
Srdjan Kos I do not know why you had to make a comment like that, but as I said, we do not think they we're conquerors. Wars have to happen, nations are born and destroyed. We view the wars between our ancestors as inevitable, as Rome was a mighty empire, and Dacia was a growing kingdom with plans to make conquest. It was the ideals of 2 nations clashing. Way better in my opinion than being a steppe tribe and just raiding everything until you can conquer some land.
Ramsay Snow yeah, I know, but the whole nation was named after Rome, the capital of the empire and roman people. So yeah, our country was named after a capital
So Tarzan invaded Bakalands
Filip Ziętek 😂
Filip Ziętek Did you know that Tarzan was borne in Romania?
there was a nice thing you miss. in italy there is a region called romagna, that derived from latin romania, lands of the romans. That region was the only one left under the roman empire after the longbards invaded italy
Longbards?
@@GOF-pk9mg yeah, Longobardi in italian, not sure why in english is translated as Lombards.
Vzey cool video!
Many kisses from Greece to both countries
New study releaved modern day Greeks are in fact Persians Iranians
Brits Have Small Penis brits do not have small penises and that isnt true greeks are greeks
LNB KS. Greece was created 1830 before that there was no Greeks Greece. The hellenic tribes left Greece between 600-900 AD. And the Persians was the new inhabitants
athanatiEllada I'm Romanian and I visited Greece last autumn.. Very nice country and weather. Cheers
Brits Have Small Penis learn history albanian
Pelasgians are the indigenous inhabitants of Greece from which all Greek groups would emerge and would later be given various names including the known name Hellins (Greeks)
Hellins (Greek) resided in the are covering mainland Greece, Cyprus,the islands of the Aegean Sea, Asia Minor and Black Sea. According to ancient Greek writers Pelasgians are identical to Greeks in terms of language, customs, traditions and regional coverage. Also many ancient writers are aligned that Pelasgians were gradually renamed to Hellins (Greeks).
Thucydides (460-398BC): Pelasgians and Greeks are the same nation.
Evsevios: Pelasgian were masters of the seas before the Minoans, Mykinians, Cypriots and Phonecians.
Herodotus (485/-421/415BC): Greece was knowns as Pelasgia and that the inhabitants of Attica (region of Athens), Cyclades (Islands of the Agean Sea) were Pelasgians
Hesiod (around 700BC): Pelasgians are indigenous to the Greek territory and Dodoni (Asia Minor) is one of its foothold.
Skimnos of Chios:The Pelasgians residing in Hellespontus (also known as the Dardanelles Straight) are indigenous
Plato (427-347BC): Greek tribes/clans originate from the Pelasgians.
Dionysus of Hallicarnasus (70-6BC): Pelasgians are ancient and originate from the Peloponese (region of mainland Greece)
Stravon (64BC-24AD): Pelasgians are indigenous and covered all the broader Hellenic region.
Herodotus and Thucydides: Pelasgian clans and cities were renamed to the known Greek names.
I am Italian and i always had this questione left in my mind
Well now you know.
Did you now?
i am romanian and allweays had this question :))))
Israel was under Romans occupation for 800 yrs, Greeks under Turks for 600 and so on ... they never change their language 🤔 Traianus Avgustus concurred 15% of Dacia for 150 yrs and you want us to believe they changed their language?? Today >
@@gygykent9840 trebuie sa o scrii si la comentarii normale. Poate mai invata si ai nostri istoria reala. Dumnezeu sa ne binecuvanteze si sa ne deschida ochii si mintea !
Watching this 3 years after it was originally posted, it's incredible to see how far you've come as a UA-camr. Not to dis this old video, which was fine, but you've gotten better at presentation, cadence, and scripting and all the work you've done really shows.
Lol ironic im an italian who lives in Romania
WHAT, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME ARE U STUPID OR WHAT????????????????????????????????????? YOU ARE FROM ONE OF THE MOST SEARCHED COUNTRIES THAT ROMANIANS WANT TO LIVE IN AND YOU ARE LEAVING THE RICH AND BIG SOIL FOR SOME COMMIE BUILDINGS AND SOME MOUNTAINS THAT WILL SOON be destroyed because no one cares about them. You should really go back to Italy.
Oricand saying the truth
Oricand This country have no future. With politicians like that. And I know that romanians go to italy to earn money. But do you earn living in Romania as a italian
Oricand U got it wrong. I am going to study politics in Belgium in the next 4 years. Come back to Romania and try to do something.
easy way and u are a mongol living in mongolian europe, welcome home !
On behalf of all Romanians, I thank you for this interesting and kindhearted video.
Still, I'd like to point out that historically, things were not always like this:
Our land was made of 3 parts Transilvania, Moldova and Tara Romaneasca (also called Wallachia), many foreigners called us Wallachians, olahi, etc.
Even if we were constantly aware of our great ancestry: Dacian + Roman, throughout our history we had a rough time from powers that kept influencing and oppressing us Hungarians, Austrians but mostly the Turks. In the 18th century, the Turkish influence started to fade and Romanians started to become more aware of their Latin heritage, seeking friendship with France, Italy, etc
I think it is then that we developed our public image of a strong, young Latin nation. Especially after the unification of Moldavia and Wallachia (celebrated today, btw), the new country was called Romania.
Kurama Kyuubi , glad you like it.
Btw , I forgot to mention that I live in Transylvania
gosh, you nailed me!!!! actually i'm Dracula+ Steven the Great+ Base... do you have a problem with that? lol.
the man did his best to make a rather nice vid about us (which is rare), and i thought it'd be nice of me to show my appreciation, thinking that others might feel the same.
i wasn't speaking on your behalf, if you don't like it.
These noobs from west ,they will never understand .And true wt you are saying.
How turks oppressed you? If that would be the case you would lost your own identity and call yourselves turks too as like how many anatolians believe they descended from actual middle asian turks.
The dacian-romanian people have such a strong culture that has consolidated over millennia that it is impossible for any invading power to completely destroy our identity. Many invaders have tried over the years and yet still here we are. Our culture is unshaken because we have chosen to lead a simple life and live in peace. Surely we have incorporated cultural aspects form other cultures, but our core culture remains unchanged. The main strength of the romanian people lies in their unification during times of duress. This unification and sense of brotherhood of the romanian people has never been broken.
When the ottomans invaded they never had any intention of transforming the population of very far vasal states like Wallachia was. They were simply content with putting in place a dummy loyalist leader that would pay a yearly tax to the empire. As long as the money came in they didn't care how the province was administering itself. They did try to impose the muslim religion on parts of the country but that didn't take as romanians were very entrenched in their orthodox beliefs. We simply resisted the muslification just like we had resisted many other forceful population conversions in the past. So you see, you are wrong. Romanians have never lost their heritage or identity as a people, even though our nation's name changed a few times.
I suggest you document yourself a bit more before throwing unsolicited comments about a subject that you know very little about.
For anyone's concern: Wallachia was a name given by the foreigners. While since the middle ages we called it "Țara românească" meaning Romanian Country or Romanian Land. In our language we call ourselves "român" which is equal to "roman".
Finally a decent observation.
Actually they called themselves "Vlah" or "Vlahi"
Adrian-spaRRow. I do not understand you. You're out of context.
no, Adrian, not even the ones from the balkan peninsula.
Some quick Wiki stuff that you can verify for yourself:
In 1534, Tranquillo Andronico notes: "Valachi nunc se Romanos vocant" (The Wallachians are now calling themselves Romans). Francesco della Valle writes in 1532 that Romanians are calling themselves Romans in their own language, and he subsequently quotes the expression: "Știi Românește?" (Do you know Romanian?).
After travelling through Wallachia, Moldavia and Transylvania Ferrante Capecci accounts in 1575 that the indigenous population of these regions call themselves "românești" ("romanesci").
Pierre Lescalopier writes in 1574 that those who live in Moldavia, Wallachia and the vast part of Transylvania, "se consideră adevărați urmași ai romanilor și-și numesc limba "românește", adică romana" (they consider themselves as the descendants of the Romans and they name their language Romanian).
The Croatian prelate and diplomat Antun Vrančić recorded in 1570 that "Vlachs in Transylvania, Moldavia and Wallachia designate themselves as "Romans" and the Transylvanian Hungarian Martin Szentiványi in 1699 quotes the following: «Si noi sentem Rumeni» ("Și noi suntem români" - "We are Romans as well") and «Noi sentem di sange Rumena» ("Noi suntem de sânge român" - We are of Roman blood).
Victor Emanuel I'm glad to see someone writes with responsibility. Thank you, Victor Emanuel. Atatia prosti comentaza pe net ca ma ingrozesc, nu pot sa cred ca am ajuns la asa un nivel de decadere. Am citit cateva postari si am crezut ca intru in pamant de rusine.
We are a Latin country like
France
Italy
Spain
Portugal
We don't care we love us
And Romania!
@@cassiusquintilianustiberiu6889 He means We is Romania
Actually, the ones that called themselves Romans during the Middle Ages were the Byzantine Greeks, who were the continuators of the Roman Empire. In her work, the „Alexiad”, Anna Komnene calls the peoples who lived North of the Danube as Dacians, Vlachs or Scythians. Two centuries before that, Eginhard called the land that was on the current borders of Romania (and not only) Dacia.
Anyway, unfortunately for the Eastern Romans, their empire was conquered by the Turks during the 14th and 15th centuries and everything ended for them in 1453, when Constantinople was conquered (although during the history classes during the high school years it is not or vaguely mentioned that the city was first conquered in 1204 by the Crusaders; although the Byzantine Greeks managed to reconquer Constantinople 57 years later, things were never the same, as the empire was growing weaker and weaker).
So, the Eastern Roman state died in 1453. As far as I know the Westerners called them Greeks. Also, the Westerners discovered many things about Romanian history, such as the Roman origins of the people and the great Latin legacy of the Romanian language. During the Modern Era, in the 18th and the 19th centuries, Romanian scholars from all the regions tried to find a way to build the country as a free state. Although it was difficult, because the neighboring states - the Habsburg Empire, the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire - were way more powerful than the Romanian Principalities, the latter were lucky enough to benefit from the conflicts between the empires and to have a very good generation of scholars, who managed in the end to unite the principalities into one country. The name was The United Principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia, but the people - at least the elite - called themselves Romanians. And the name was changed to Romania. Why? Simply because of the Roman origins and legacy. At the end of the 18th century - the beginning of the 19th century, there was the so-called Transylvanian School, a cultural movement that tried to promote the rights of the Romanian people and their Roman origins. The work of the members of the Transylvanian School was the base of the Romanian emancipation and unification movement and scholars from later generations continued their research on the origins of the people and language. Of course, there was a movement which insisted on the Dacian origins of the people and language, but that remains to this day a very controversial matter (the Communist regime that reigned in Romania until 1989 aggresively insisted on and promoted it; in the end, they fucked up the possibility to find out exactly what the hell happened here).
I guess Romania is the best name they could choose for the country in the 19th century. In this way they were able to show that Romanians are neither Slavs, Greeks, Hungarians or Albanians and that their most important Ancient influence and origin is the Roman one.
You made a gulash of all. Romanians called themselves laready Rumân/Român. PERIOD.
I never clicked on a video so fast. Then again, I'm Romanian, sooo... yeah. 😄
Loved the video. 💝
Metamorfoza Enigmatică Thank you :D
Metamorfoza Enigmatică me too your name is in romanian
Greetings fellow Romance bro from Italy :)
#hashtag
De unde iti vine numele ?
Italy being called Romania would be like Britain being called Londonland
At least you have kept the name of Britain form the old greek Brettaniai/Pretanike that was inspired from the what the celtic Pretani/Bretani (P and B seemed to flow freely back then, like B and V do nowadays in Spanienland) _might_ have called themselves, or their dogs.
Not really. Ancient romans were an empire and a country of itself. People from london never made that impact to input their name on others
@Konjina "People from london never made that impact to input their name on others" That's becuase way back London hardly existed. Colchester is the oldest recorded town in Britain and was the 'capital' of celtic Britain. That's why Claudius (who properly invaded Britain, not JC), headed straight there to take it. After that, Wincester was the 'capital' of England.
So your comparison of Rome and London here demonstrates complete ignorance. Numpty.
@@sunnyjim1355 you are missing the point of my comment... colchester never was an empire either so the whole land could never be called colchesterland. My point still stands numpty. Id rather not know this fact than be as ignorant as you and not be able to read between lines like you.
And in fact IF LONDON WAS NOT THAT BIG OF A CITY THE ORIGINAL POST HAS EVEN LESS POINT SO IT MAKES MY POINT COMMENT EVEN MORE SENCE BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL POST SAID THAT IT WOULD BE CALLED LONDONLAND SO INSTEAD OF ME WHY DONT YOU TELL YOUR STORY TO HIM YOU IGNORANT NUMPTY AND ILLETERATE PERSON
@@sunnyjim1355 my comment still stands that london never had impact as you said it yourself it hardly existed. So my comment still is proving the point england, britain ir whatever you want to call it wouldnt be called londonland for any reason. Damn you are some old man full of facts but unable to do with them anything. Cant even prove a point on a random comment. Feelsbadman.
1:38 TARZAN invaded Dacia :)))))))))))) ROFL OMG
Big_Joe i'm fucking dead;0
I was looking for comment. Thanks
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Well i'd guess Romania is called that way precisely because it is surrounded by non-latin speaking peoples - and only since "roman" was no longer associeted with "citizen of rome/byzantium".
Italy has not only been called italy during roman times but the italians have also been neighbouring other romance-speaking peoples ever since the fall of western rome. Therefore there was no need to identify over being a descendant of rome.
Actually, as I'm currently studying Latin, I can ensure you that romans commonly referred to the peninsula as Italy
Romanians also used to be non-latin speakers before the 19th century, they spoke old church slavonic and wrote with the cyrillic alphabet
113PRH I'm afraid you're wrong. Italy's name in Italian is Italia, just the same as Italy's Latin (and Ancient Greek) name
Well yeah it's obviously not "italy" as in the english variation of "italia". But you get what i mean: "italia" (or italy as we would call it in english) isn't a new name for the homeland of the italians. It has been around since ancient times.
Mihail Nikoloff while it is true that we heavily latinized in the *i believe* 18th century, the Vlah language never was a non-Latin speaking language... We did use the cyrillic alphabet, and what? There are lots of non-Latin speakers that use the Latin alphabet. Old church Slavonic was not used that much outside churches... Stop spreading lies.
I'd add a factor the equation: maybe since they were the only romance people in the region their romanic identity would stand out more, so that the slavs and others around would simply call it "the land of the romans". Italy on the other hand had many different tribes for many centuries (including the Latins) before the Romans took over, and by that time the latin language ALREADY had a name for Italy from BEFORE it became all-roman. IDK, just a thought. Great video!
I for one would like to know how the name of Romania actually used to be pronulounced as "R-oo-mania" and variants thereof for much of its history (even in English, up until the mid-twentieth century). I know that [o] and [u] sometimes switch between one another in languages but still...
Samuel Strazzanti The slavs called Romania Walachia, not Romania.
Actually, the term Wallach/Vlach is kind of tricky because it seems to apply to different Romance-speaking groups of people all across the Balkans, both in Romania and Greece or Serbia.
Fun fact: in Polish and Hungarian Italy is known as Włochy and Olaszország respectively, both of which derive from the Vlachs/Wallachs, whose linguistic similarity to the inhabitants of the Italian Peninsula probably led to the confusion.
+yarpen26
In Spanish the name of Romania is _Rumania,_ so yeah, weird!
Both share the same etymology though.
bro i love your videos they teach me a lot of stuff i didn't originally know. my favorite one would have to be when you explained the continents before Pangaea. keep bringing your content through out 2018 and the years to come
Brayden Cook Cheers man! The Pangea video didn’t do as well as I thought it would’ve done but really glad to hear you enjoyed it! It’s one I really enjoyed making :D
I've always had Geography as a small hobby of mine, occasionally i like to open up my old readers digest atlas and just look around. and 52,000 views on your Pangaea video is quite a lot to me i only average around 5 to 6 views on my videos. keep up your hard work man
Very professional the video. Thank you for clarifying it in such a great manner. Peace from Romania! :)
"Bawklands"? "Tarjan?"
What kind of a fookin Brit aah yoo?
It's also interesting that in Roman times (0-500AD) Finns didn't even live in Finland yet. They lived near Ural mountains,literally in the border between Europe and Asia. Along with our brothers Estonians and Hungarians i guess.
Uralic language-speaking peoples are so intriguing it's fantastic to imagine how they became so far apart and Hungarians got cornered by all kinds of cultures yet still are so isolated in a way.
then who lived in that territory back then? Other scandinavian populations?
Bhaalspawn84 Any source for this claim?
Tor Bygjordet cant find the source. It said that before year 700AD there have been no finds of Finnish people's bones. My statement is generalizing , i'm no expert. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Finland
Bhaalspawn84 Interesting. But the sami speak a ugrian language although they are not an ugrian people.
I bet they picked it up from the Finns, and it is unlikely the language spread among the samis in just a couple of hundred years.
Seems more likely the Finns came earlier than 700AD. But who knows.
Thank you for talking about my country and clear things up that not many people know about. And thank you for respecting and understanding Romanian history that they deserve.
At least more people are starting to really recognize the Romanian history FINALLY!
Some of the people here know more about Romania than romanians.
Eva Z Like who?
Of course because our country is full with people that doesn't know any general knowledge, but instead they know pretty much how to ask their parents to buy the newest and most expensive Iphone X which is absolutely garbage, or staying and making insta stories on instagram but at least they spell it right. Or being a bitch on Snapchat or overloading status on facebook and twitter. Because yeah that's more important than teaching people from other countries that they are wrong and Romania is not all about Dracula and a leader that prefered to kill the invaders in the way we all know...
there is no romanian history :D maybe 1000 years later...
I’m born in Bucharest, Romania and I love Italy! The connection between this two countries make me proud! 🇮🇹♥️🇮🇹
I love the way that you skipped all the history between Dacia and the establishment of the country of Romania, including the Kingdoms of Wallachia, Moldavia (not to be confused with the modern day country of Moldova, although this did used to be a part of Moldavia) and Transylvania. I didn't expect too much talk of this as this isn't a history channel, but might have gone to explain that there wasn't a Romania until fairly recently in history (the 1800s) and I guess the name Romania was a compromise as it was union of kingdoms and it had to be name differently to those entities. Also sort out your pronunciation please. The way you said Trajan and Balkan just makes it sound like you didn't watch anything on this country at all in your research. I like your channel, but this lets you down time and again and is an amateur mistake in what is otherwise a very polished and professional channel.
When political interest dictates, many people bring up the fact ROmania wasnt a country till more recently. But I dont really get that argument as romanian myself because well... romanian language was always spoken, at least after the roman invasion, if it wasnt already latinic that is, we dont know for sure. However that being said, Germany wasnt a country till a certain year, Italy wasnt a country till a certain year... even the great propagandists to the east... Russia wasnt a country till a certain year. So while try to use to political advantage the fact a country appeared in certain year... most of the countries did so, with slight differences in age, they are still the same. Its not really about the country or even its name... its about the language , the people from same roots, and same traditions. Germanic tribes existed long before Germany as a country, I dont see anyone making claims on german history. Well many of our neighbors took us for fools , challenged us with all kind of claims, only to bite them in the ass later (the claims that is).
I wasn't trying to belittle Romania or people who are now Romanians who would have heritage from any of the kingdoms that I mentioned. You are right in that whatever the kingdoms were called they had a common language that is Romanian and came from Latin and the period of when the Romans invaded Dacia. I was merely pointing it out that he skipped the whole period of history between the fall of the Roman Empire and the establishment of the modern Romanian state. Borders, although now seemingly fairly well fixed in Europe, did change quite considerably during the Middle Ages with countries and empires taking chunks of other countries through war, sometimes even obliterating them as in the case of Poland for a while, I was merely pointing out that whilst the name of Romania obviously comes from the Romans, and the fact that the people of the kingdoms that were established after they left weren't called Romania and i doubt the people in these kingdoms called themselves Romanian back then, it wasn't entirely explained why they chose this name over a different one, say Wallachia or Moldavia, which were the dominant kingdoms at the time. Maybe there isn't much evidence and since they had a common language it was named after the language, but this isn't implied in the video and no real mention is made of the history behind it. That's all. I hope that makes sense and clarifies my earlier comment.
Wallachia is the name who was used by other peoples THAN romanians (germans,huns) to name the region south of Carpathians.Between us romanians we ALWAYS called this region "Tara Romaneasca or "Teara Rumaneasca as in Romanian Land - "Terra Romana".So this region won over the others when was elected a name for the united romanian lands.Civis romanus natus dacus
@@mattpotter8725 romanians called themselves from the earliest known writing as "romanian" and even the mouth story that grandparents told children was about the roman-dacian war and the common roman-dacian ancestry.
that was as early as we can look back, way before the 18th century when scientists began studying history, linguistics, genetics, and figuring out the history of europe and our roman ancestry
so the name romania was a simple and natural country name for people who called themselves romanians... they called themselves romanians irrespective of the regions and the region in the south, where the gold was mined was always called "tara romaneasca" aka romanian country.. it is the natural name of people which called themselves romanian
@@healththenopulence5106 But some people from regions of Romania don't even call themselves Romanian today and I'm not sure you can know what people 2,000 years ago told their children, except for those that could read and write, who would obviously be Roman, because as far as we know the local tribes didn't have written documents by that stage.
I'm not saying that today, or even in recent history, say the least few hundred years the majority of people in say Transylvania, a part of Romania that used to be part of Hungary as far as I'm aware, aren't majority Romanian or that it shouldn't be part of Romania today, just that there are still pockets of Hungarian and even German communities still in certain regions of Romania.
I just think this goes to show that over centuries borders change, peoples change their allegiance, and become assimilated, and of course migration happens and become populated or repopulated by different peoples, borders aren't static, or at least weren't back in the times when feudalism was the norm.
It’s about time someone covered this topic, Thank You for doing so! 👍🏼
Zi Vo You’re welcome, thanks for watching!
Strange question. Italy was called "Italy" already in the Roman period ... ("Italia" in latin language and modern italian). Why should Italy change his name? ... "In verba mea sponte sua tota Italia iuravit", (Augustus Emperor....) .
@ Never knew that Romanians were found by Homo Erectus
@Mysterious Stranger "We" don't want to be named Romania? No no no. It's YOU who doesn't like our name. Dacopaths like you are traitors to the Romanian state. You do not speak for Romanians.
@Mysterious Stranger Of course you are a dacopath. Look at what you wrote. It's a radical belief; which is fine if you believe in it, because you can take your place with the flat-earthers of the internet. However, when it comes to advocating for changing the name of my country to "Dacia", this is nothing short of treason.
Mysterious Stranger Only dacopaths advocate for changing the name of Romania to Dacia. You’re the stupid one here.
@@octaviantimisoreanu5810 da ce aveti ma cu dacia? Ce are? De ce vorbiti asa urat? Nu stau in Romania si nu prea cunosc istoria ei, Dar Scrie clar si pe Wikipedia ca chiar a existat un popor, dacia, geografic vorbind, in Acea zona. Si traian dupa razboi a spus: m am intors pe pamantul stramosilor mei.
When I saw that Sicily and Sardinia weren’t included as Italy in the thumbnail, it felt like I was hit by a thousand bullets
as romanians we're really proud of our roman-dacian herritage and latin language and culture. ave Cesar!
Decebalus per Scorilo
@@fairy6758 provincialized, not colonised. It's different
@@fairy6758 colonize themselves.
"Io so rumeno perché so de Roma" cit.
Grazie.
Quando vedo una dona io le strapo perizoma
@@simonegherardi8458 in teoria sì "Rome-no
@@barababarabba4010 lo facio cuano fumo la mia roba
Haha
Like dacă ești român
Sint dacă
Neromanizată
Sunt roman si dac
@@antoniutudor6293 nai cum
@@andradaacarpei3752 ești rusificată
I read the etymology dictionary in Korea and name explain of the UA-camr I got to know through a book!! It's such an honor to meet you.
Hey guys! I'm also a Romanian that was pleased with this video featuring on the channel. Yet, there are certain things that i might add to the content of this video. There are some romanian historians that argue that the whole foundation of rome was traced back to the dacian and thracian tribes. Aeneas, the founder of rome, based on some sources, came from the shores of thracia. Thracians and the dacians were much alike, including their language, customs, lifestyle etc. Thus, there are legends arguing that the dacians and the romans were speaking almost the same language. That is why trajan never needed a translator when talking to decebal, the dacian leader when rome took over. I consider it a topic that deserves more research, maybe even a video :))
LOL Aeneas is Trojan thus Greek...
Azor Αζώρ im not saying he was thracian. I was arguing that sailed from the western shores of thracia with lots of thracian troops that setlted eventually in rome...thus the language similarity that the thracians spread among the roman empire..it's just a theory man you dont have to be so stingy :))
Gruia Cimpean Aeneas wasn´t greek or thracian, he was a trojan and also a legend without any historical support, he never existed, and even if you give credit to that legend he went to Italy only with his family, never an army. That legend was created by the romans in order to give the city an heroic ancestry linked with the gods, it isn't based in any archaelogical finding. There is no connection between the ancient italic tribes and the thracians or dacians, there is no mention in history of the dacians before the 2nd century BC, Rome existed since the 8th century BC.
The Aeneid was written by Virgil only to give a noble origin to the Romans. The Latins, ancestors of the Romans, were an Italic tribe that succeeded in prevailing over other Italic tribes.
stop reading bullshit!
Yeah, one very obvious reason why Italy is not called Romania is because apart from the romans, there were a bunch of different tribes. And what you ommit to mention is that the name Italy came to be largely because the greeks called them that, due because of the tribe you mention "Vitali". Conversely Greece came to be called as such because of the Italians meeting with the Graeci tribe.
Konstantinos Sfoungaris Calling "tribes" the Greeks in Italy sounds a lot like a blasphemy... by the way, you're right, Latin was heavily influenced by Ancient Greek after the conquest of Greece by the Romans, and this is a very good example for it
Alessandro Pedretti whom did I call what now?
Konstantinos Sfoungaris You said "Graeci tribes". Graeci literally means "Greeks" in Latin, and you definitely can't call them tribes, because the Greek colonies in Italy were cities with governments and laws etc.
Alessandro Pedretti no, originally the Graeci (Γραικοί) were a Hellenic tribe inhabiting central Greece. The inhabitants of Italy at the time came in contact with them first and applied this name to any Hellene. For instance, Greeks in the east are called Yunan, because of the Ionians
Konstantinos Sfoungaris Well, it doesn't matter their Ancient Greek name, Graecus in Latin means "Greek", it doesn't refer specifically to one tribe, but to Greeks as a whole
Actually Dacia in the times of Burebista stretched from Poland to the Balkans (vaguely described). It was A LOT bigger than what you showed there, which is how Romania should look in the modern days and what it used to look like in the past century until the Russians took Moldova again. Basarabia e Romania!
And I think the nane of Romania was adopted in 1859 if I'm not mistaken, but not 100% sure
@Wugen Grigore im Romanian…but that’s not relevant to the subject anyway
Those maps of the Dacian Kingdom are modern interpretations created by nationalists. We actually have no idea how big or small Burebista's kingdom was.
Bro, please be more conscientious about your pronunciation - as a name channel, it should be a high priority.
Balkans, not Balklands
Trajan or Traian, not Tarzhen
Calábria, not Calabría
You got this!
He pronounced Trajan like it was a Spanish word
Wasn't Romania once known as Wallachia as well?
Only the southern part, right under the Carpathians
Alright, Thanks.
If i remember correctly Vlad the Impaler was ruler of Wallachia, so maybe that's where i got confused
Present day Romania didn't exist as a state during the middle ages. There were 3 smaller kingdoms: Wallachia (the southern part under the Carpathians), Moldovia (the eastern part just east of the mountains) and Transylvania (the North Western and central part - above and to the west of the mountains). The last one (Transylvania) was conquered by the Hungarians in the 10th century and has been under their rule for the next 900 years - until 1918 when Romania formed as a state. Vlad III - the Impaler was indeed ruler of Wallachia and not Transylvania (like Bran Stoker portrayed him), but here's a fun fact: he was born in Transylvania (in the city of Sighisoara).
Romania was not formed as a state in 1918, rather in 1859, under Alexandru Ioan Cuza.
The fact you didn't include Sicily and Sardinia to Italy irks me a bit. It's an otherwise cool video!
I was just going to say something about the fact that this is about the Italian peninsula which is a geographical term separate from the territories that the Italian Republic has sovereignty over, but the fact that he was talking about countries makes you completely right.
I'm pretty sure quite a few people in Sicily and Sardinia wouldn't mind being left out of Italy
Tim Snowsill I find this comment very funny because you're trying to use the rhetoric of a very limited minority of people in Italy for god only knows what point you're trying to make.
Don't take it too seriously..... nevertheless those people do indeed exist, even if in the minority.
the romans didn't think of sardinia or sicily as parts of italia
Ukraine here,love your channel
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NEZALEZHNA PRO YEVROPEYSʹKA RESPUBLIKA UKRAYINY
Is that true that ukrainians, to the very least don't get along to romanians?
Rock Fan Ukrainians like Romanians,I have been in all parts of my country and everybody likes Romania,about same with Moldova,we like Poland too,we don’t like(most Ukrainians) just Hungary and Russia :D
Policía de la República de Cuba
What??? You are not from Ukraine, you are Cuban
I've never heard anyone refer to the Balkans as Balklands before.
I thought I was hearing things. Yea its weird he says that
Romania is Carpathian not Balkan
It's far worse how the Slavic thieves from Skopje stole the name, the culture and the historical figures from the one and only Greek Macedonia.
Nico O S
Why do greeks allways have to make everything about themselves? What you said is completely unconnected to the video.
It's far worse that you christian turk descendants stole the ancient Greek land and history, even though you are not closely related to ancient Greeks.
LordPinochetUTTP
XD I am greek. You don't even know me so stop with the assumptions
Η Μακεδονία ήταν, είναι και θα είναι για πάντα ελληνική!!
Balkanites = T R A S H !!! (Includes all of the former-Yugoslavians, various lazyreeks, Maceslavs and whatnot)
Wish Romanians in the comment section would stop pretending their language is Dacian.
Agreed here as well
You ask too much
I wish people to not destroy statues of past centuries leaders but i know people can not full free themself of stupidity
@Ionas Vasile PIE, there are many old sanskrit words similar to latin
Please tell us what old dacian words do you know, because there are not many
@@raulepure9840 Are you referring to what happened in North America due to "woke" culture?
@@octaviantimisoreanu5810 Da
History documentaries tell me that when Trajan invaded, he did so with such overwhelming force so as to avoid the defeat suffered by his predecessor who had attempted to take the region's resources but failed in a humiliating fashion. Trajan's invasion was so thorough and his occupation so all-pervasive with colonisation and suppression of Dacian culture that Romania, more than any other part of the Empire, was the land of Roman citizens.
Traian occupied 25% from Dacia!
Not really, he tried to do that and obviously won. However the Dacian culture was a warrior culture and he remained so impressed about that battle spirit that he rose the column in honor to the gods and empire for defeating such worthy opponent. While not mentioned in history lessons there are quite a few dacians and thracians that after the conquest became generals and around 3 that even ruled over Rome for small periods this is info you have to search yourself sadly but it is present on reliable sources. But, more of a crushing that influenced the culture I think it was a hard earned cultural assimilation on both parts, sure not a happy one, but in a few years the Dacians and Romans where fairly well mixed and with no marriage discrimination
well Dacia didn't had the borders we all know today as being Romanian. Burebista's Dacia expanded until in today Germany. Especially in Bavarian region. Romans took our gold from Sarmisegetuza in the carpathian mountains, so not even 25%. Romanians from Wallachia (southern romania)and Romanians (eastern romania) were actually the most affected by the roman presence in Dacia. However, another tribes and nations because Dacians were at war with one of the greatest powers in the world, claimed the lands from today balkans, austria, hungary, bavarian germany. Transylvanians were very much full majority, even if the land was claimed by Hungary later. This is why we were just 2 nations Moldovia and Wallachia in very late history after the war between Dacia and Rome
Babbo Natale
5,000 of Legion XIII (Palestine)? :)
Bogdan Stanescu I has no idea about the connection you are tryn' to make, though though yeah Romania of "modern" day(1890+) treated the jews fairly well even hiding them in secret villages during the small time period that it had a Nazi regime
"From Rome we descend,,
Grigore Ureche - Moldavian Chronicler
Because it wasn't a country made of only Romans and because the peninsula was already known by the Greeks as Ιταλία.
Man you should’ve outlined Sicily and Sardinia as well.
By the way love your videos.
Sardinia, do they fish for sardines there? ;)
I'm assuming he meant the Geographic Italy.
Fragalanis sardinia and sicily were roman provinces and they werent considered part of italy
Pepper Mr207
Northern Italy wasn't cosidered as part of the peninsula either, but in this map it is red-colored.
Proof? There's several different maps I saw, some showing it with and a few without.
as a Romanian,when I travel to Italy, I can understand Italian without ever studying it as we have a lot of common words
you likely won't. the difference between languages and dialects is mutual intelligibility. you cant understand more than half of italian without seeing it written
@@dnjefprod He never said that the languages are mutually intelligible. All he said is that HE AS A ROMANIAN can understand.
That is not mutual intelligibility since only one side can understand what the other is saying.
@@wallachia4797 i was explaining why he would never 100% understand italian
Honestly as a Romanian we should probably mix the words Dacian and Roman because that is what we are. The result of dacians and romans fucking
@Bladed Satan what homosexuals? You're mother?
@Bladed Satan Why are you gae?
Hypotheses for the etymology of the name "Italia" are numerous. One is that it was borrowed via Greek from the Oscan Víteliú 'land of calves' (cf. Lat vitulus "calf", Umb vitlo "calf"). The bull was a symbol of the southern Italic tribes and was often depicted goring the Roman wolf as a defiant symbol of free Italy during the Social War. Greek historian Dionysius of Halicarnassus states this account together with the legend that Italy was named after Italus (a legendary king of italy), mentioned also by Aristotle and Thucydides.
The name Italia originally applied only to a part of what is now Southern Italy, according to Antiochus of Syracuse, the southern portion of the Bruttium peninsula corresponding to the modern province of Reggio, and part of the provinces of Catanzaro and Vibo Valentia. But by his time Oenotria and Italy had become synonymous, and the name also applied to most of Lucania as well. The Greeks gradually came to apply the name "Italia" to a larger region, but the Peninsula and its borders expanded over time.
According to Strabo's Geographica, before the expansion of the Roman Republic, the name was used by Greeks to indicate the land between the strait of Messina and the line connecting the gulf of Salerno and gulf of Taranto, corresponding roughly to the current region of Calabria. Later the term was extended by Romans to include the Italian Peninsula up to the Rubicon, a river located between Northern and Central Italy. In 49 BC, with the Lex Roscia, Julius Caesar gave Roman citizenship to the people of the Cisalpine Gaul, while in 42 BCE the hitherto existing province was abolished, thus extending Italy to the north up to the southern foot of the Alps.
It was during the reign of Emperor Augustus that the term was expanded to cover the entire peninsula until the Alps. The islands of Sardinia, Corsica, Sicily and Malta were added to Italy by Diocletian in 292 AD.
the word for "calf" in romanian is "vitel"
Emperor 'Tarjan'? Trajan, mate.
xD what a tarjtard
Emperor Tarzan. **generic Tarzan yell**
fun fact, Italy is divided into 20 regions, one of them is called Emilia-Romagna (and is basically the union of 2 culturally distinct regions, Emilia and Romagna) Romagna was actually named after the Roman empire, not the western one though, in fact Romagna was the last piece of italian soil that the Eastern Roman empire controlled before giving the whole peninsula up (also the cultural region of Romagna includes also the northern part of the region Marche)
Ps. you never showed Sicily and Sardinia as part of Italy even though they are (but considering how each region in Italy has it's own strong feeling of identity is not that bad)
quak quak Quick question: why Ezio Auditoire da Firenze rather than "da Florenze"?
Because "Florence" is the translation of "Firenze", which is actually the real name of the city :)
Firenze sounds cooler
Those islands were colonized
@@angelabender8132 I can see the case for Sardinia, to a degree, but Sicily wasn't, while it has been independent it has been in the same nation as the rest of southern Italy for a long time, and as far as I'm aware it wasn't treated differently than the rest of the south, then yeah, the unification of Italy wasn't kind to southern Italy for sure, but saying that Sicily was a colony is a bit too much
Good video. We could also add that 1. the name of the so-called "Byzantine Empire" was in fact "Romania" ("Ρωμανία" in Greek) and Romania was under Byzantine influence in certain historical periods, and 2. Romania (ex Dacia) was isolated in a region inhabited by Slavs and then by Hungarians (after the migrations in the 6th-7th and the last few years of the 9th century, respectively), while Spain, Portugal, France - all countries with a Romance-speaking population - had to distinguish themselves from each other by name.
And nowadays Latins are the South Americans...
And some of them like messi or juanes or kaka or Ricky Martin ust be considered the real Latino Americans not the indegeneus, mixed, afros...
@ateb3 some things are not logical to US. They call themselves American, even when América is a whole continent, they are "Estados Unidenses" in portuguese or something like this in english.
@ateb3 agreed. But, what can we do? Most of us(South American) want to migrate to US, the situation here is bad.
LMfao just because they took the name Latins does not make them so... Just another sad bunch of cunts trying to latch onto a glorious history... People with a high amount of Spanish DNA may have some legitimacy calling themselves "Latins" but thats about all.
@@cogeunlibro9312 Messi is italian
Romania is more Roman than Italy.
And the Byzantine Empire or the Eastern Roman Empire was called Romania. So, the name is old and has been used before. It means part of the Roman Empire or citizens of the Roman Empire.
From Italy: the ancient Greeks named Italy "Hesperia", name "originated from the combination of Venus, as the evening star, with the West and therefore with the Italian peninsula, one of whose names was Hesperia, or "land of Hespero", the star of the Evening consecrated to Venus .This symbology is already attested in archaic Greek literature in the sixth century BC, the poet Stesichorus, in the poem Iliupersis (Fall of Troy), in creating the legend of Aeneas, described his return to the land of his ancestors (Italy) after the defeat of Troy, under the guidance of Venus." (Wiki, It. Esperia).
So, in my opinion, Esperia would be a good alternative name for Italia.
True and a correction. Hesperia was Spain, Espanja, not Italy
@@an_pa: WIKI: "It derives, via the Latin Hesperia, from the ancient Greek Ἑσπερια (Hesperia), based on ἑσπέρα (hespera, "west", "place where the sun sets", and therefore "evening"); this name was used by the ancient Greeks, as later also by the Romans, to indicate the lands located to the west of Greece, namely Italy and the Iberian peninsula. Hesperius consequently became an ethnic nickname, and then a personal name, referring to people from such places."
Italian site: " Esperia: in Greek Hespería, in Latin Hesperia. Name with which the Greeks indicated the lands to the west and in particular Italy and Spain also called Esperia ultima." .."However, it should be noted that, in conjunction with this denomination (Italia), other names were used in ancient times to indicate Italy, such as Esperia (western land), Saturnia (land of Saturn, originally Lazio), Oenotria (southern Italy). west, land of wine), Ausonia (land of the Ausoni, the inhabitants of southern Italy, from Lazio to Calabria, belonging to the same linguistic group as the Italic.), but above all the denomination destined to last over the centuries will establish itself."
@@elisabettamacghille4623 What you say seems more correct to me.
Although, acoustically "Espanja" seem closer to "Hesperia". I remind you that the ancient Greeks considered Gibraltar the limit of life and death, which means that after sunset there is nothing.
I will add something you will like, the Turks call the western part of their country Anatolia, from the Greek word "Ανατολή" which means East
Video interessante. Eu realmente nunca imagine que o nome da Itália tivesse outra origem - Kisses from the biggest roman influenced country in the world (in terms of population and geographic size) - BRAZIL
Brasiu campeo del mundo numero #1
Il Brasile non e' romano,ma americano
@@paolorossi9180 YES, BRAZIL IS THE LARGEST ROMAN INFLUENCED COUNTRY!!!!!!!! LANGUAGE + CULTURE - Don't even think that it's Italy because you're completely wrong!
@@marivaldomessias9988 sure Brasil was a part of Roman Empire hahaahahaha.American continent has nothing to do with ancient Roman Empire history,but Italy.France,Portugal,Spain yes!
@@paolorossi9180 You have no idea of what I'm talking about. I'm saying that 'BRAZIL IS THE LARGEST ROMAN INFLUENCED COUNTRY' and if you knew a little about Brazil you would know that Brazil was colonized by Portugal and we speak Portuguese - Roman Culture influence + Language Portuguese. These funny Europeans think they know everything... Wake up, people!
2:37 *Good milk comes from happy cows.*
True
We have a region called after the Romans in Italy,Romagna,after two regions merged togheter now its called Emilia Romagna.
90%of Italians have no clue about this 😂the country called Romania its due to the Roman empire
Eastern Roman Empire was also called Romania,so naturally ,its former Latin inhabitants named the new country,Romania.
Those Latin inhabitants of the ERE who called it Romania are the ancestors of modern Romanians.
_dacia vu i've just been to this place before_
Higher on the street! And I know it's my time to come home!
that's it there's no more lyrics
i mean i dunno the memes don't last that long
You turned Dacia into a meme
*ASCENDED*
xD
likes his own comment
uses his real name
no profile picture
and he calls other normies
Very good video! Only as a small bit of additional information: from "Vitalia/Vitelium" (which, by the way, in modern Italian a young calf is called "vitello") loses its "V" because of Greek influence in the south, namely the region from the word originates, due to the fact that Greek doesn't have such sound, thus becoming "Italia"
Conte Corvo, please mention "vita" (vaca) as both cow and its male plus "vitel" and "vitica" as their "son" and "daughter", in Romanian!.. :>
Greeks HAVE such sound. In Classical Latin, V was promounced U. Uitalia actually pronounced. Vinum was pronounced uinum and compare with old Greek oinos for wine and you will , maybe, detect the indo-european connection...
I think all ppl here miss a few important things like:
1. Dacians had access to Black Sea and they could trade with greeks, romans and so on.
2. Another strong point was Danube actually could easy connect latins with dacians before wars and colonization.
3. Trades implyes to learn the languages, and of course the trend was to learn latin.
4. Also calshes existed before the years 101-102 and 105-106.
5. Dacians had huge tritory at crossroads so latins had interests in this area. Also to learn latin at that time came with many advantages, so my assumption is that part of dacians people pushed to learn latin.
In conclusion this was a long process and happend much more like a fusion. Of course after Traian win the war and attached south of Dacia to the Roman Empire also helped but it was verry short time like 100 years are not enough, so was a longer and much complex process of colonization.
Im Romanian and Dracula its my dad ❤😂
Why are you saying Balklands, its Ba-L-kans
Imborahey lmao bulk lands
Romania isn't a part of Balkans, also. The natural border is Sava and Danube rivers.
Actually, Romania is part of Balkans thanks to small area on south-east.
Imborahey
Everything is land
Ireland
England
Scotland
Kalvin Castro those countries are named after the people living there, there are no Balk people living in the Balklands, plus the peninsula is named after the Balkan mountins
Well, in my opinion the name Italy comes from the Latin "Italia" (actual Italian and Spanish word for Italy) wich was all the central part of Italy, controlled by the Romans before building their empire (and didn't include that Southern part originally owned by the Vitali) then extended to the whole mainland Italy.
as a fellow latin speaker from the East, in Romanian, Italy is also called Italia ;)
Octavian Blaga Nice to know that :)
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🇪🇸 Español...
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