CRASHED and DEMOLISHED NEW RC Airplane - FMS 1300mm PA-18 Super Cub
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Nate was so excited about this RC plane that he built it as soon as it arrived. This is the brand new FMS 1300mm PAS-18 Super Cub. It comes as PNP or RTF. Unfortunately the maiden flight did not go as expected and he crashed and demolished this rc airplane within 5 seconds. He is super bummed so give him so love in the comments.
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Check out the FMS 1300mm PA-18 Super Cub: shrsl.com/3svzw
Nate was so excited about this RC plane that he built it as soon as it arrived. This is the brand new FMS 1300mm PAS-18 Super Cub. It comes as PNP or RTF. Unfortunately the maiden flight did not go as expected and he crashed and demolished this rc airplane within 5 seconds. He is super bummed so give him so love in the comments.
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Check out the FMS 1300mm PA-18 Super Cub: shrsl.com/3svzw
Battery: bit.ly/3EL0Z1z
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Transmitter/Receiver: bit.ly/3UOM3oM
Hand Warmer: amzn.to/3USNNxg
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I would love to help get rid of a couple of your planes😀
When that happens to me I say , ..scream beep beep beep beep beeeep ..... an then I am smighted🌩. Hv fn guys life, too short the season ! ❤🙏
Reality surround this video. No planes ever for me. Thanks though. Happy holidays y'all.
I am sure you have more experience than me with planes. I was ignorant as I only watched a few episodes and I still was harsh. Rc models can have all kinds of stuff happen. Let say I regret it. You are way better than I am at rc planes. I learned a lesson and again I truly wish you and your family the best. Happy holidays
Can I buy a few of those planes you have stacked up?!?! I'm a newbie pilot who's yet to fly. Got the fms ranger 1220mm but haven't flown. Would love to have one of your planes since you are the reason I got into the hobby.
I have drove 30 minutes to the flying field and had a 30 second flight then another 30 minute drive home. Lol We have all been there!
That's why I always like to bring 2 planes if possible 😁
I’m glad to know I’m not the only one! Sometimes these things can be a little frustrating. Erric, have you ever had “one of those days” where both planes don’t make it home in one piece?! 😬⚓️
Yes sir, made that mistake once and now I always bring at least one other flying machine even if I probably won't fly it. The time it happened to me was on a flying wing that broke the only prop I had for it on the first flight. Had to drive back home, get another prop and another plane and I was swearing the whole way. Gas is too darn expensive now.
@@TheRcSaylors Sadly yes 😁🤣 Got my OMP Hobby T720 and AeroScout stuck in the same tree with in minutes and broke them both getting them down. 🤦 lol I'm getting ready to take out the AeroScout and my foam board plane I designed. 🤞 hope they both make it back in one piece 😆🙏 ✌🏻
@@michaelkrailo5725 You said that right gas is outrageous. I know you was pissed 2hr drive over a prop 😆🤣 I had a couple nitro planes 20+yrs ago. It's very easy to forget to bring a glow plug starter etc. I've had to go back home several times lol. Thankful its not but 15mins to the flight field. Still pisses me off though. 😆🤣 Thankfully I haven't had that happen since I got back into flying the last couple years. Flying all electric doesn't require so many extra things to get it in the air and things to forget and leave at home 😁 ✌🏻
Wow that was fast!!! That sucks man. Well at least you have like 300 other planes to fly unlike most of us.
Ten years as a shared, primary hobby 👍😁😎⚓️
Buddy you stalled. When you try to take off with flaps down 90 degrees like barn doors then retract them at 2 knots of course you will stall straight into the ground. Also if you did proper checks then the servo wouldn’t have magically stopped working when you take off. You can’t just blame it on the plane c’mon now. Fms makes great products and this is the best one they make. Don’t show it in a negative light from a pilot mistake you didn’t recover from.
hit the nail on the head
lol you need to get a clue. there are threads about this airplane's defective servos. you can see it clear as day he has no control. i know this, because i have the larger version which was plagued by the same issue.
@@incubrian That doesn’t change the fact that he flew on the defective servo. Rather than doing the right thing and replacing it, he admitted to testing it and seeing the bad servo not working but he flew anyway and crashed. Making it mistake not the plane’s. Sure Fms may use cheap servos but that’s not a reason for him to ignore the issue.
On my maiden flight today with this same plane, at landing my prop locked up and the motor started smoking. It seems to be working now, but I still don't know what happened. Plus, now I don't trust the motor.
Even though this seemed to be a bad experience you can't loose sight of the many times more that you had good experiences of all the successful maiden flights in the past. Hold your head high and continue the great work that you two do and for the hobby.
I picked this PA-18 up this past spring. It is by far the best one of 9 I have in my hanger. The most realistic flier I've experienced so far. That broke my heart seeing that happen, it's good to know FMS is on top of their game. Can't wait to see your reaction to that plane once you get it airworthy again.
It has happened to most of us. I've had my Eflite Cirrus crash on maiden in a stadium. We learn so much from these experiences. That's why we love this channel so much.
Aaah,…. If it was in fact a defective servo (which I also think it was!), they should send a whole new plane after that crash. Anxious to see the next video on this one. I LIKE the plane!!!
Thanks Nate, Thanks Abby!
I love (ed) my PA-18 Super Cub till the day I stalled it. She nosed into the ground from about 60ft+ and I couldn't recover in time. It was in too many pieces to glue back. Heartbreaker for sure. But...VERY BEGINNER FRIENDLY folks. Just keep your speed and you'll be fine.
90° straight down flaps? Thats what killed it. Would have lifted off perfectly with NO flaps! That wasn't an elevator issue!
No elevator, flaps on into flaps off. Trust me when I say the elevator servo was dead during this miss-hap 😢⚓️
Steve’s got no clue what he’s talking about
Agree....Watched the takeoff over and over. The elevator WAS NOT FULL UP! It was level. The flaps were in a position, that with full power, would cause a near vertical takeoff. Totally operator error.
It was both. Flaps should NOT be full down on take-off.
However, slo-mo playback shows no elevator motion at all times, so it was failed and contributed to the crash. A standard control surface check before take-off would have discovered that. That's how pilot Dale Snodgrass lost his life. Locked elevator.
Stuff happens. There is alot of potential in that plane. Get it back in the air soon!!!
for times like this you need to start making RcSaylor band-aid stickers
Hahaha!! This is the best idea I’ve heard in a while! 😂😂👍😁⚓️
I’ll buy those
Duck tape too
Your channel reminds me of the old Wide World of Sports. The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat. I love you guys. Don't stop doing what you're doing
Thank you very much. That honestly means a lot Daniel 👍😁😎⚓️
The plane looks amazing! It was just one of those days when it all went wrong. Wishing you all a beautiful weekend! #stayepic
Thank you Marco! That is very nice of you 👍😁😎⚓️
Your message was far more important than the failure. I see people loose a plane and it just destroys them. They need to stop and realize it is a hobby and things happen and "its ok". Thank you.
I couldn't agree more about this sentiment! A great message for those new to the hobby! Instead of shaming someone for a mistake or error in judgement, focus on the positive message about learning from the experience.
not every day in this hobby is a good day. but, its a better day than working! ;)
100% Correct!! 👍😁😎⚓️
You show the good, the bad, and the ugly. Makes you more human. Keep flying and having fun. I can’t wait to see the follow up.
I had the 1700mm version of this airplane. It's pretty close to being my favorite of all the planes I've owned. I wrecked it, eventually. I was upset, also. I loved that plane. It's great that they made a smaller version. If I hadn't just bought the FMS 1400mm J-3 Cub, I'd grab this for sure! Looking forward to you fixing it and flying it again.
Still a safe landing, and sometimes that's all we can ask for.
Well said Stephen, thank you! 👍😁😎⚓️
When you're in this hobby long enough these things happen. Yeah, it sucks ....and even with all the preparation and tests sometimes it just doesn't go as hoped for. I know it's of little solace and may be but hollow plattitudes but we've all been there and felt the same. You'll get her back in the air and this will be one of those stories you can reminisce over with your flying buddies.
Been there, done that . Chin up up ,not your fault . Good that FMS are coming to party . Look forward to part 1. 2
Nate: "It's still a great plane, just shorter."
Happy Thanksgiving 😊
This video answered SOOOO many questions I had for you, like "Where do you put all your planes?" I see your cars on racks in your home all the time. This looks like a workshop/ storage area or basement. I need those racks!
Aircraft NEVER take-off with full flaps. 1/4 to 1/2 at most. Too much drag.
Bummer about the dead elevator, but the crash is not the servo's fault as I did not see you do a control surface check before take-off, ESPECIALLY since you were already having servo issues. I do a surface check before EVERY flight for proper operation and direction. Good habit to assume. It doesn't matter how well the plane worked the day before. ALWAYS go through that checklist before every flight and never get casual about it.
At least it is just a toy model and not the real thing. I've heard/read too many related horror stories over the years of this kind of thing happening for real with full size aircraft. Those really woke me up to proper procedure.
Always alert! Happy flying!
This!!
Yesss thank you!!! If you watch right after the stall full down elevator is applied. His servo was reversed. This is pilot error not systems failure...
@@skyhighmediasolutions891 I saw no up or down elevator from the point he plugged it in to the point of crashing.
Use the playback speed option of UA-cam and watch it in 1/4 speed. No up or down elevator motion. I'm watching on a 40-inch screen and see it quite clearly. Elevator never moved.
Still pilot error because one should always do a control check first before applying throttle. That's how I was taught anyway.
Nothing worse then flying on a cold day and you have a equipment failure. The last 2 FMS, the Rafale 80mm and the A-10 twin70mm, that had a bad servo. I caught them during the build with a servo tester. I always run all servos on the tester for 5 min before building. FMS did stand behind the product but it took weeks for them to answer the service e-mail and then 3 more weeks for the servos to get to me. I am looking forward to the maiden flight v2. Happy flying.
I noticed that at the top of the climb you raised flaps from full down to full up (retracted). That may have contributed to the stall as well. If this happens again I would try maybe half flaps to recover.
Ouch. That was a sore one, but it's great to hear that the company's customer service stands by their product and customers.
If it makes you feel any better, bigger helicopter crashes are even worse. At a recent helicopter event in North Carolina - we guesstimated over 10k (probably closer to 20k) in overall crash damage.
I feel ya Brother. I had a servo failure on a new Hobby Zone Mini Aero Scout. My rudder servo worked till I got in the air. Then... Not....
Love your channel. Love God.
Not necessarily in that order.
Praise God.
Keep flying and filming.
Matt E from Michigan
Hi, a little theme music.
"Those magnificent men in their flying machines,
they go up tiddly up up,
they go down tiddly down down.
They enchant all the ladies and steal all the scenes,
with their up tiddly up up
and their down tiddly down down. "
Crashes are heart breakers, especially if the damage it beyond repair. You just showed a truth of the hobby sometime bad things do happen, no matter the number of hours you have at the sticks.
Reality appreciated, its part of the hobby ! We can all learn best from what we fail in or are challenged by ....Gods speed
Yep I've spent hours building a plane only to fly it once lol. Happens to the best of us. Chin up time for sure.
I have the FMS 1700 Super Cub and that looked like the maiden flight of mine. Turned out it needed a significant amount of weight added in the nose. After I got it properly balanced it flies great. One of my favorite planes just very out of balance out of the box.
We feel your pain. Its like getting clothes for Christmas when your little lol. If anybody can be positive after that, it is you. Fms should send you a new plane. Now that would be great customer service. Thanks for the fun videos you guys, they keep me going.
Bummer !!! Thank you !
FMS Part list needed: One new airplane. ;)
Hahaha 😂 So sad but true 🥹😂😁⚓️
spot on either bad wire, connection or crappy servo... i replaced many in most all my planes... sometimes they let you know they are sketchy and act up during flight checks... you can spend money and buy expensive up grades,but all and all cheep one are usually fine for awhile...
I got 10 flights out of my timber before the junk service went out. Lucky I heard it grinding on the ground between flights. I can’t remember having so much trouble with servos 15 years ago.
With all those planes you got....you should do monthly give away drawings....spin the randomizer and give away a plane every month....you'd at least be able to walk around in there 😀
Chin up buddy. It happens. Plus it was a situation that was not your fault. Nobody was hurt. Feelings recover quickly. Awesome video all in all. I’ve never seen your hanger area before. That is a little slice of heaven. Thanks for sharing. Sorry for the crash Nate. Better days ahead. God bless.
No, you retracted the flaps. Basically you stalled.
Ordered mine 0900 on the day went on FMS site. I have several FMS T-28 1400, Eflite Maule, 70mm f-16 etc etc. thanks to y’all for such great content. I’ll take a deep dive with mine prior to maiden. My 1400mm T-28 split in half on maiden due to bad servo. Repaired and flys 100% now BUT I’ll be triple checking.
Nate- hoping you read this comment! I have the larger version of this FMS Super Cub that i bought from fair RC. i have the EXACT undiagnosed issue with my plane as well, however when my servos glitch, i am able to catch it and thus have not experienced a full crash on pavement like you did. i purchased mine in august, so not too long ago, prob the same assembly run.
but on my maiden i experienced full control loss that i blamed myself for. but in later flights on different days with DIFFERENT receivers as a test bed, i noticed the plane will randomly lose full flight controls for a brief period on the FIRST flight of the day. all flights after are totally normal.
it's almost like the first hit of voltage when going to full power leads the REFLEX to have a freakout.
here is what happens:
my setup: Futaba 8FGS FASST with Futaba R617FS RX w/ included REFLEX FMS gyro (have also tried with Orange and other Futaba RXs)
flight 1: throttle up and will occasionally experience full control loss IF i use full power - the throttle however stays "connected" which is what leads me to believe the REFLEX is to blame.
IE: i lose controls on takeoff run but throttle stays connected, so i can safely bring it to a halt in the grass, but cannot steer or do anything until i go to idle and let it sit for a bit, then controls come back to life. but the whole time i sit there i have complete control over the throttle! weird right?
flights after 1: plane flies fine for the rest of the day- no matter what setting the reflex switch is in!
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i believe either the reflex unit is to blame OR possible the servos, but because i am always able to "restore" control and have the plane fly fine for the rest of the day- it leads me to believe the Reflex has an error in it.
To further my evidence, when i switch the reflex to "bypass" - it seems to mitigate this issue.
i have yet to REMOVE the reflex unit and try just an "old school" set up with my FASST rx only- but i will let you know what i find... i can safely rule out the radio as this set up has never given me any issues in over a decade of use. and its actually the same RX i took out of a working model with no issues.
But seeing your video update on this same plane really makes me concerned about the reflex being an achilles heel to an otherwise wonderful flying model.
I am legit afraid to fly this model due to the brief loss of control! i am positive this is what is happening with yours too. let me know what you find, and i will definitely be staying tuned to your channel for updates.
IF anyone else has a super cub from ~august 2022-now i'd love to know if you have similar issues to what you see in Nate's video here!
Love the reality
Thanks Bob 👍😁😎⚓️
😢 sorry for the crash. Good to know it wasn’t operator error, hope to see it back up in the air again soon. Hope things get better.
Thank you Jorge for your kind words 👍😁😎⚓️
Love your view on rough spots in life totally agree bro.great for having kids 👍🏻🙏
Thanks Stormy, that really means a lot! 👍⚓️
I've gone through 2 of those flysky remotes. Both had potentiometer failures, the I6X had on the elevator, it's a very intermittent and inconsistent failure difficult to diagnose. The I6 I'm using now has the rudder potentiometer going out. Might not be the cause here but worth a look
The only way to guarantee we won't crash, is to not fly. I need to go through my UMX Pitts, as I had an aileron problem right after take-off, causing it to suddenly roll. I'd had it happen once before, but I was already in the air, and was able to land safely with the other aileron correcting. This time, though, I wasn't yet high enough to have time or space to correct. It's just part of the hobby.
Sorry for the crash. Can't wait for the next update video!!!
Thanks Victor! 👍😁😎⚓️
We have all been there Nate. That plane is a beautiful flyer and very stable. You're lucky that FMS is backing you up. Thats because also of youre video documentation. Next flight will be awesome. But it happens bud. I just recently crashed my FMS Tigercat. In the process of fixing her.
Well...the take off was impressive. Very short run (no pun intended) and then up in the air. Can't wait to see the follow up video and flight.
OMG your plane collection is amazing Nate.
Anxiously waiting for the follow-up video sorry about this mishap I know it happens love your channel!
Been keeping up with your show , nice vids , Nate you have come along pilgrim, lol can fix plane buddy
You should have put the flaps down, it would probably have pulled out and had less damage. Still, get the old hot glue out, and it will fly again, I am sure.
Eres el verdadero Sr de los cielos , tu hangar es increible mucha diversion , felicidades , saludos a tú copiloto feliz dia
Thank you my friend! 👍😁😎⚓️
I put AGFRC Micro 9g digital Servos in my timber and they are super responsive, powerful and quiet. They actually weigh 12g and consume a little more power than the cheaper plastic geared analog servos that come in most bnf/rtf planes but the smooth precise control and extra piece of mind is totally worth it.
I bought this plane a month ago. Might be my best plane right now, very capable in wind and a delight to land. I want to buy another one and have it on hand in a box in case I have a mishap with this one. I love this plane. It is really easy to fly. Sorry about your servo, there but for luck go I.
oh MAN! That sucked! Looked like it was gonna be a nice flyer too. Those nice big tires made smooth work of your usual bumpy rollouts.
What goes up must come down. Chin up buddy, we fly, we crash, we fix and fly another day.
Now just imagine if this was one of those giant scale balsa built up planes that had even more expensive gear inside and it has a flakey servo or connection. You do a bunch of testing and are sure it's going to work but it doesn't. It's completely demoralizing. You know you checked it but it starts working again and you feel confident that is good to go. I think the lesson here is to determine the exact original cause for the servo not working. If you can definitively pin point what caused the original problem, you can then proceed to repair or replace as required. The sheer amount of motivation you had to fly that bad boy on the day you received can be quite overwhelming. Just be glad it's not a super expensive one. And kudos to the wife for leaving you alone for your hour of reflection.
Extremely well said comment here. I honestly couldn’t agree more. Thanks for watching Michael 👍😁😎⚓️
No one with a big balsa plane would even consider taking of with a servo that you can't trust. It would be replaced before take off. If it has happened once it WILL happen again.
And unlike cheap pnp servos. people spend the money and buy reputable and high quality servos to put in their giant scale planes.
@@millerrc5829 Unfortunately, even those higher priced servo's can fail due to a host of different reasons.
It stalled is all. Happens. Nothing some hot glue wont fix.
When i zoom into the plane at peak nose up, just before it decides to flip and go say hello to the tarmac, your elevator appears level. Your flaps are 90 degrees down to the wing however. Not sure it was an elevator servo that caused this.
I noticed this as well. It may not have happened exactly as described in this video because I filmed my explanation before getting the privilege of watching the crash. I believe the climb/ fall was more due to the flaps, however I am still 100% sure I had no elevator control as it was acting up a little before take off and still has the same tendencies after this crash. Hopefully I can clear this up a bit with a follow up of some kind 👍😁😎⚓️
I didn't see you do a surface check b4 lift off.
I don’t necessarily film and show everything like some other channels. I try to value our viewer’s time 👍😁😎⚓️
That sucks! My E-flite Extra had a failed in flight last week. Luckily I was in a shallow left Bank and it cleared the marsh and crashed in a retention pond. I guess this proves that even birds can die in flight.
Yo he aprendido que primero se vuela sin "flaps" y gradualmente se usan. También he aprendido que siempre debe haber más personas en el lugar para ver otros modelos y no perder el viaje.
Pero ya nos ha pasado a muchos. La emoción nos ciega. Keep goin.
Fmsare usually pretty good to be fair. Only servos I've had go slightly wrong was an eachine 400mm corsair which kept failing mid flight, and a arrows rudder on a p47 which just didn't sound right but worked OK in another plane when I swapped it. Its an interesting hobby hey?! 😆
Nate awwwe don't feel too bad we've all been there and done it. I had a biplane with the whole elevator come off. Always love your videos you least you're honest about it song on UA-cam aren't and I always enjoy you giving God lots of credit for the beautiful days. The guy across the river from you♥️🤗♥️🤗
It stinks when we lose an aircraft due to manufacturing defects or poor quality control. I personally have been having major difficulties with Horizon Hobby for the carbon rods on the front of a fuselage NOT being glued in to motor mounts, resulting in the complete separation of the cowling, motor/propeller and magnetic battery hatch cover in flight on a brand new Turbo Timber Evolution. they did send a partial fuselage with out the main parts, cowling with lights, Motor, propeller with shaft nut and the battery hatch cover. after many emails I've not heard back. I have spent a lot of money on their products over the years but it's starting to seem like customers are not that important as the say. I hope i'm incorrect on this and they make it right.
I know how you feel . I came home one time with just my transmitter because I went out to far with it, not paying attention and flew out of sight. I was so bummed when I got home. Nothing worse to come home without the plane. I went searching for it, and drove where I thought it might have went down. Nope ! I lost it . But I’m like you , I came home with my tail between my legs, but at least I came home to my dogs and my wife and put a fire in the fireplace and a glass of wine and everything was fine. We’re all going to have these moments, I’ve seen all your videos and you’re a good pilot.
lost a plane once like that ...but found it after a while ...lost My first plane in a tree after a week i got it down with PVC pipe...PS i fly Futaba now
@@lawrencescardino8033 It was my own fault not paying attention . I have no one to blame but myself ! ☹️
@@jimpuff8409 one time i lost sight of a plane behind some high trees and flew it blind from what i remember the direction it was going and pulled up on the elevator and cranked the stick right and saw a speck in the air over the trees...it was my plane bought it back successfully...we are always learning every time we fly...lesson learned dont lose orientation..LOL
Sad that a $3 servo takes out a $200 (or more) plane. I wish there was an easy way to add redundancy without a lot of extra weight.
Totally agreed! This is pretty rare honestly, at least in our experience, but I couldn’t agree more. If it were the rudder servo for example, this just would not have happened ⚓️
Shake it Nate!!! All good RC pilots crash. Fly , crash, fix, repeat
I know what wrong with it! it got that Flysky in it!! Lol
Late squad today it’s ok Nate I know you can fix anything I’m sure you’ll get it back in the air again 😊😎⚓️⚓️⚓️⚓️⚓️
What I saw is that the full flaps during that high angle climb prevented some speed and put the plane in alpha-stall(I saw the elevator working all the way). By the time you applied down elevator to level it and then quickly closing retracts sends the full weight to the nose from the release of airstream by the "ballooning" from the flaps, adding more downward pressure as it got sent nose down(happens a lot in over-wing plane designs). There was not enough wiggle room to level it out. If servo died in that scenario, best way is to cut throttle then remove retracts during the stall to relieve the upward pressure and send the plane down at least to a slight level glide(especially if CG is spot-on)
Aerobatic maneuver: If elevator is locked in up position, best way is to land it in alpha maneuver by just leveling ailerons, rudder, and just throttle control all the way till you set it down(flaps up for no air drag). It would be an aerobatic move but if quick enough to realize to assess the situation, you can pull a high alpha harrier landing in that position and save the plane fully or just have minimal damage.
I agree, after reviewing the video in slomo the fast flap retraction at high alpha and zero airspeed caused a stall at an unrecoverable altitude. To me i never saw the elevator move at all during the flight.
@@dfrost42371 If elevator is locked in up position, best way is to land it in alpha position by just leveling ailerons and just throttle control all the way till you set it down(flaps up for no air drag). It would be an aerobatic move but if quick enough to realize to assess the situation, you can pull a high alpha harrier landing in that position and save the plane fully or just have minimal damage.
@@monchichis333 You are correct, but after viewing in slomo and freeze frame on a 65 inch TV, I never saw the elevator move from the neutral position at any time during the flight. So I don't think it was locked in the up position. The high nose up was caused by full flaps and too much power on take off. From what I saw the elevator was locked in the neutral position. If he would have kept a little power in with flaps he might have landed as you described. I have had the same experience with the FMS Kingfisher.
Sorry about the crash…
Suggestion for you, if you can get your hands ons a Arrows P47 Thunderbolt, ive had so much fun with it and im sure you’ll love it!
That's a beautiful plane...err...was a beautiful plane. Looks/looked a lot like the Draco except the fuselage shape is a little different. But it reminds me of the Draco before it burned to the ground....
The Super Cub!! It really is an amazing set up. I’ve heard the larger version is awesome, so I’m really looking forward to another opportunity to fly this again. Hopefully soon! Thanks for your support Mountain! 👍😁😎⚓️
Thank you for the high quality content. You and your wife are UA-cam Rock Stars in my book!!! I Can't wait to see the repaired Super Cub fly. All I can say is you guys ROCK!!
It's very upsetting when a plane breaks, I have been flying since 2006 and fortunately only broken two ( fingers crossed I'm not tempting fate)... I find it does tend to set you back a little but not for long. Keep the videos coming I look every day to see if there are any new posts, always look forward to see a new notification 😀 great work guys 👍
Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly
This is the second fms plane I’ve seen this week demolished on maiden because of an elevator fault. Brian Phillips lost his fms su27. Makes me nervous to buy fms.
With flight stabilisation like Spektrum SAFE, it's essential to check the responses are set up correctly prior to maiden flight. In other words, the receiver responses are opposite to the stick inputs. You said you had the stabiliser on prior to take off, which in my experience isn't a good idea as it tries to keep the aircraft level when you need it to climb (steeply). Looking at the crash, I've got a theory that the elevator response was possibly set up the wrong way round, which isn't going to end well. Just an armchair theory, but worth considering. Excellent channel which has probably brought a lot of new people to the hobby. Sorry about the crash, but if you're not crashing, you're not flying!
Oh new soft tires! I loved mine, lost one to wheel coming off, axle driving into frozen turf..totalling hull...then after rebuild, my rudder servo blanked out full deflection..irrecoverable spin on final approach from 30 feet..
Still want another, but have a CZ Carbon Cub to enjoy much easier in the meantime..
How did it take off so steep without elevator?
Cutting the throttle and applying flaps as soon as possible could have saved the model from damage.
The frustration when you break your only working plane is crazy
Nate. You need to start selling buddy, I went through the same thing years ago with a large die cast collection. Turned it back into cash and started a new hobby.
Bummer dude...at least you're not bitter! 😁
It is a good looking aircraft, I would like to think that FMS will make it right, nobodies fault, just sometimes even brand new servos fail...
Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving and a really great feast 🦃🦃🦃
No reason to be bitter. He's sponsored and didn't pay for!
What an AWESOME LOOKING plane...for 30 seconds!! SOOOO sorry NATE, but I KNOW you will get her in the SKY AGAIN!! I LOVE to see your BAT CAVE!! THANKS SAYLORS for the FASTEST MAIDEN!! 💟👍😘
In my opinion you kids have the best reviews out there. Stick to the truth. That’s why myself and so many other’s follow you.
You have a great mind set , looking forward to the next video 😢😮👌👍🏻
Thanks Eric! 👍😁😎⚓️
Sounds like a skill issue
How so? Did you watch our follow up video regarding the servo?
@@TheRcSaylorswhere is it I see none on your channel
This looks very much like a re-make of the old Parkzone Sport Cub that was sold several years ago but now with a landing gear upgrade. That said, the Sport Cub is still one of my favorite "go to" airplanes so I think this will be a good product for anyone who enjoys some leisurely flying to consider. I would recommend buying the plug and play version and would install a Lemon Rx stabilized receiver. This plane really doesn't need all the SAFE functionality for anyone with skills above a beginner to successfully fly. Sorry about your problem Nate but I think you ran into a programming issue or a bad servo. Hard to overcome that once you are in the air. Like taking off in a full scale airplane with a gust lock that wasn't removed. Not many options once you are airborne.
That is my go to plane too. I still fly my Old Parkzone Red and White Sport Cub S2 except it has a .10 and a 45 amp esc in place of the old 480 and 18 amp esc. I have been flying on both 3 and 4s for years now. It will almost jump into the air on 4s. I thought the same as you when I saw the FMS plane. A remake of the Parkzone. New molds are expensive I guess.
OH NO!!! Bummer.... Sad for you. I hate to see these things happen
Thanks Tim. We will get it sorted 👍😁😎⚓️
Don't blame the servo, you screwed up. You had the flaps down 90°, that cause the quick lift off and the nose up and you lost airspeed. Then you pulled up the flaps and the plane nosed down and started moving forward again, but you didn't have enough airspeed for the elevators to have any effect. Go watch some basic aerodynamics videos on UA-cam and learn what flaps do and how they work. You basically had them set up as airbrakes, and they worked great - as AIRBRAKES.
Yes, the flaps were the main reason for this particular crash, but I still had no elevator. If it didn’t crash in this way, due to the flaps it would have crashed another. Probably further away and who knows how that would have ended up. Again, there was no elevator, so it was eventually going to crash. It’s like blaming a driver for turning into a guard rail because the brakes on their car went out or something. I dunno, maybe not the best example, but the elevator went out… check out our shorts post.
@@TheRcSaylors Yeah, when you have no airflow, because the plane isn't moving forward, you have no elevators (BTW you also have no ailerons and no rudder). It's more like a driver blaming the car for not being able to turn, when it's not moving forward. That plane may have even been moving backwards from being blown by the wind, kind of hard to tell because the ground was out of frame, but it sure as heck came to a damn near stand still. Even if the elevators were working it wasn't high enough to nose over AND get up enough airspeed to make the pull out from the dive. I've seen the video where you crashed the helicopter, and again, it seems like you don't understand the basic aerodynamics of how things fly and want to blame the machine(s).
@@TheRcSaylorsI completely agree with @qfrb97 because you put those flaps down and that causes a lot of lift so when it climbed you lost airspeed and being a dummy you took the flaps out which the airplane did not have enough airflow over the wings to generate lift, do not blame it on the elevator, you need to learn how to control your speed. You couldve kept taken flaps out and added power and kept adding and taking out flaps until you were closer to the ground. Your fault
No his elevator channel was reversed. I watched it almost frame by frame and his elevator goes full down after the stall. This is why we do pre-flight checks.
Stfu dude, this guy prolly flies planes better than you do.....before you critique someone lets see you post some videos of your flying so we can judge your flying.....but you won't do that bc you wanna call people dumb behind a phone/computer screen
Once I installed the propeller wrong and my new 500€ plane crashed the same way on the maiden flight. Man, I was pissed af!!! 😆
So now you learned if a servo fails or shows any issues it's best to just swap it out. I keep a good supply of servos hand to swap them out. Especially on a new plane. Any hint of faulty servo change it. Use it on something else that's not critical. RC car boat whatever.
Oh no! Thanks for sharing... you are certainly right realizing the bad times lift the good times even higher. Hope God is giving you good times right now to balance this one out. (PS - I didn't notice the logo on your sweatshirt until the end of the video. Perhaps the UPS sweatshirt was an OOPS for this outing.)
Sad too see this happen, but happens to all of us. But I did get positief information from this revieuw, ordered the tires for my FMS Kingfisher, which as you know are very hard. Will see you with the remaiden of this plane, and am sure it will fly great
We definitely appreciate you showing us the real details. Please continue to keep it real. Thank you