Joseph Kim is on different level in terms of market understanding and how effortlessly he is translating that info into simple words. Wow what a legend. Major missed info from him on this pod is what kind of games work in India.
I am pretty sure Joseph felt like it was not worth joining this discussion panel. Even when Nassir (Nasdaily) was a part of this podcast, one could easily observe the level of in depth knowledge, intellect and excellence in communication he had over other content creators. Same with other international individuals ( Including NRIs working in US ). And I think the flaw lies in our culture and education system, and I don't know how that's going to change, but if any core nationlist sees this, it is an initiative worth taking.
As a gaming entrepreneur I agree with most of the points addressed by Joseph Kim. Gaming as a career choice has to be appreciated at an high school level.
I gotta say Nikhil is an amazing person. Wonderful, humble, generous, and super charismatic. I (Joseph Kim- writing from my Gamedev YT channel) was and am super humbled to have been invited to such a great show. Just skimming through some of the comments here, I can see Nikhil has a really supportive community, and OMG Thug must be doing something really right to have such a huge and committed audience. Anyway, for some of you who wrote nice things about me... thank you guys. I'm used to doing super niche content for tiny audiences so it's cool to see so many people interested in gaming/gamedev content here.
I don't know anything about gaming, but have watched the full video and was very much impressed with your insights and the deep knowledge you have in the industry
Joseph Kim has a vision and clarity of thoughts. He correctly mentioned all the nuances of gaming industry and rightly put forward where and what Indians are lacking at. Indeed a true visionary. Hats off to Nikhil, another master piece ❤
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@@stealthoverflow kisne kha mai subscribers ke liye betha hun 😂 abe sale already qualified CA hun 1.4 lakhs mahine ki job hai aur stock market vgera se 2 lakh aur kma leta hun tujse bhut achi life hai
The fact that this long form podcast gets strong viewership shows that great content is always timeless. Also super helpful to see more Indians adopting to long form podcasts in the past year.
As a fulltime designer and a avid gamer with more than 12k hrs, i can proudly say this was one of the best podcasts for my domains. Thanks Nik! Would love to fill out that application.
I love how Nikhil's trying to demystify game design down to its essence, not only with engines, platforms, and scripting languages, but also with the larger storyboard, streaming economics and actually generate something that an aspiring enthusiast can take away.
The podcast appeared to be heavily focused on mobile gaming, neglecting the broader gaming landscape in India. While mobile gaming may have a larger audience, it should not be the sole focus here when discussing the gaming industry in the country. Some people including me or I should say those with extensive gaming experience, may have anticipated a more comprehensive exploration of the true essence of gaming, which was lacking in the podcast. And I respectfully disagree with your point here ,Nikhil, did not even delve into the perspectives and experiences of dedicated gamers or the deeper significance of gaming. However, it is worth noting that the guest speakers, especially Kim, provided valuable insights into the Indian gaming community that even Indian gaming community may not have been aware of. Their knowledge and intellect deserves nothing but admiration and respect.
i loved the part where they talked abt designers and artists who're getting paid less then their work worth and would love to see changes in that area as an artist myself thanks for this it was very knowledgeable and helpful
Because as a listed company he can allocate his own money, and also as a gaming company he knows how many issues he is facing due to lack of talent in this sector
I invested in Nazara technologies in October 23 listening the news that Nikhil has invested in it. It has fell big 28% until now. So, just for the comment reader’s here please don’t invest blindly without doing any research of your own, like the mistake i made here.
You've certainly made a mistake that a rookie makes. But it is stupid to blame Nikhil over it because the guy didn't fake. He is still invested in it. He has a strategy and you don't. That is the problem.
Bro, if you played any game developed by nazara you will never invest in them. Look at their graphics. Pathetic. How are they going to compete in global level with no good games.
Joseph really have Very clear Future Vision. 1:17:56 I'm Listening Joseph and already on mission. This thing very few people understand. That future is Indie games.
This podcast is unique and different from usual one's, there's a lot to learn about the gaming industry. Kudos to thug he has worked hard to get to this forum ❤
Thank you Nikhil for this channel. I still can't believe all these videos are for free. These videos are informative and provide a very good knowledge and ideas to people like me who are clueless or trying to find direction on what we want to do in life. Thank you.
Thank you Joseph❤…..Everything you talked about was backed with examples and reality. Got to learn a lot from others as well🎉 Nice one Nikhil…..keep up with the curiosity driving in. #S8ULOP
I am 19 and “Just out of learning intent I am kind of in a dilemma whether or not take Nikhil’s questing attitude to be an essential part of learning or should we be more grounded with people who are well established and might provide us an opportunity. What’s your thoughts guys.
Joseph Kim made a perceptive observation; it's true that India is struggling to produce skilled talent and is plagued by mediocrity. I've noticed that many of my friends chase after substantial salaries rather than pursuing their passion for their craft, which is quite disheartening.
I think one of the future episode should be on anime industry, there's a big chunk of Indian young audience who consume anime a lot, even people who are over 30 or close to that , as we have seen animes like Dragon Ball, we 've grown watching that
Sadly India Don't even own 1% of Actual Game Production Industry. Except Gambling games. We don't even have single Game Production Company with $Billion Valuations. But will Build 1. Literally I Just recently realized I'm the First Indian Game Developer Who Released "First Multiplayer PC Game" on steam. I'm not open for Investors because in Game Production Investor kills the project under pressure. Because Investor always hunting for profits and in Games Revenue don't come in before release. Which i Don't like. Allready rejected multiple Investments. And Krafton Incubation program is also Investment against equity. So I'm just open for Grant's/Supporters.
With no disrespect , the depth at which Joseph speaks, showcases the difference in intellect. Every hindsight he provides, is backed with accurate data and a strong explanation. If India could produce such intellects, be it any industry, we would be prospering at a rapid growth. Foundation plays a key role in developing a long term vision.
I want Nikhil to have a podcast where he asks "as a 20 year old who wants to do nothing or knows nothing what to do in his/her life what should be done??"
I think if he does a podcast with them they can't come to the podcast because nikhil always gives warning to investors that you should spend all your money into trading and all he guides investors a lot but on the other hand companies like upstox, groww, angel one are only doing business that's why I think that's why they don't come to podcast
I believe this podcast delivered a summary of the current gaming industry so profoundly. It was an absolute joy to watch the whole podcast, and i applaud all the participants for contributing to nourish the Indian gaming industry. Keep up the good work and we are here to support you.
Can relate to Mr Nitish. My niece (11 yrs old) and nephew ( 6 yrs) are so into Minecraft and Technogamerz. Also they like to watch their favourite streamers playing games. I think this is a substantial shift into the likes of today's younger generation compared to us millennials or even gen z.
Half way through the podcast and I can see Joseph is awesome ,he understands gaming very good and always having different perspective ,I like the way of thinking that there is opportunity of making games in India ,everybody is running behind becoming a professional gamer or streamer but there is also a opportunity of making games
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 I’ve been a loyal listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that pulling of something like it in INDIA requires some grit! :)
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 have been a constant listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that doing something like it in India requires some grit!
Am i the only one who felt jospeh was the only one who was being honesty ? Indian guy couldn't justify going public nor could accept he made a mistake by going public. Krafton guy was scared, he was trained about what and how much to say. 8bit was just trying to sell gaming. Gaming can never be a career in india. Most of the so called gamers earn through UA-cam and streams whether than actual gaming. Nikhil knew people as are earning through streams rather than actual gaming. If you are giving your 10yr old an iPad then obviously he would not go out and play physical game. Sports is never going to die. Most of india cannot afford a good pc or a console. Not even a high end phone. Gaming will never become what it is in the US, in India.
Partly true in the end but things are changing. 'chapris' as people say are able to get top tier phones on emi and what not easily. Also it's not really necessary for physical sport to die & esports to emerge as a sole survivor.
@@kanishhh I agree to the second part while I share different opinion regarding the affordability of high end devices. I do not think majority of india, which is the real india is still available to afford a phone worth 40 thousand. Even if we hypothetical think everyone has a good phone still it doesn't mean they wants to make a living out of it. As nikhil gave the stat, 96% gamers are mobile gamers. It is likely that they play games in their free time. Also It is extremely hard to make money from mobile games as compared to pc and console gaming. Majority revenue of gaming industry comes from the company who sell their game's copy. Eg gta, cod, etc. Even pubg is declining. I don't think there is any other mobile game through which gamers can make money. Majority of india cannot afford a high end pc or a console or even if they can then they don't get time to play. Work life balance is so bad in India. You cannot make a living out of Mobile games. You have to play pc/ console games which has a pretty small market in India. You would find more viewership on mobile games streams then pc games stream in India. Because majority of people are most of the time not even aware that there is this particular game called xyz. These so called gamers have started making vlogs and doing random challenges rather than playing the actual game.
would love to see a podcast on animation industry, as the anime form of entertainment is booming all over the world and it is still hasn't started in india in the form of production
To the point where Thug was saying that the world is moving towards shorts/reels culture, there's a seperate fanbase for podcasts these days, everyone's coming up with long durations of detailed podcasts of upto 2 to 3 hrs that clock pretty good views
Gaming can't be your primary career choice. But the game development can be. games are basically an end product. like a movie. It's meant to be consumed. now you can watch so many movies and develop a skill to review or talk about movies, now that can be a career path. Even if you look at the esports industry all over the world, it's still nowhere nowhere near the mainstream sports industry. becaus you need a large audience who will be willing to watch esports. So comparing cricket and gaming is invalid as of now. Streaming games is a different thing. because it's a value addition. People are not watching you because you are playing a game, but you are adding something extra on top of it. maybe humor, knowledge, unique techniques, or your personality. and it will always be a niche compared to other career paths. So don't get confused about a gamer, streamer, and content creator
Comments section seems everyone is taking about thug and thug and didn't even understood the deepness of this podcast we will having so much issue and we nothing what the world has achieved in gaming that the development, eSports(that is only bgmi nothing else much), funding and support
yeah I'm so dissatisfied that they didn't talk elaboratively about future and progress of pc and console gaming in India and the criticality of piracy in India instead they talked so much about how mobile gaming is the future and blah blah and the juncture at which thug said that games will need to be fast pace and all that felt like utter bullshit to me for me games need to be good at 3 parameters which are story-gameplay-graphics , if a game stand strong on these then its most prolly gonna be great , sorry to say but we needed better insights than this , although I liked a lot of points spoken by joseph he talked about a lot of technical stuff too which were very penetrative .
Thank you sooo much Nikhil !! The kind of questions you were asking was soooo soooo relevant and insightful and kudos the panel for sitting for such a long duration and answering each and everything soo patiently ! Please keep bringing more content
Real salaries of Game Art and Design guys and for engineers it will be 20% more if you have good negotiation skill otherwise it will be same Small company: 2 LPA to 3.5 LPA (Entry level) Mid level company: 3.5 LPA to 6 LPA ( Entry level) Big company: 6-12 LPA (Entry level) Disclaimer: Mainly mid level and big companies not look for freshers. They want atleast 2 years of experience and by chance if they hire like once in a year for freshers then the opening will be so less like 2-6 person only.
A lot of people might not know Especially those who are not into gaming If you compare gaming with cricket in cricket if you are playing ranji trophy or and other similar event that's when you are getting paid it takes hardly 4 years for a 14 or 15 year old cricketer to play ranji or any other league and get paid a great price BUT while in gaming no one gives around 4 years if they don't get anything back which is okay and brings the bread in the house people in gaming want early succes and apart from that ranji player get payed a lot compared to an average esports player at that level and also in cricket if someone performs there is a probability that he will become famous but in gaming if u r not famous it's hard for you to earn money only 10 to 12 names will dominate here but then there will be lakhs waiting like one day it'll be our chance but it might not come so yeah the point of keeping a backup ready is really really correct coz if u are successful and loved one day it takes not even a second for the audience to bring you down and if u don't have audience u don't have money....
Depends on the school is the biggest flaw and root of the problem in india. For the same amount of skill, a person can get paid 5 lakhs as well as 50 lakhs, this huge disparity is what leads to talent going outside india.
Thank you guys. Really valuable podcast . Lot of insight for an engineering student like me who love games, and want to make something in gaming in India.
basically i realized that everyone tries to tell people about different opportunities but still no one can beat the 'IIT ENGINEER' in terms of money when everybody is talking about skills it kind of make me glad on my decision to join a iit
I am living in Mumbai for almost 10+ years, though originally from Karnataka. I was once asked by my landlord when I was vacating the flat after 4 years if I knew anybody from Karnataka who wants to rent or from south if there was no one from Karnataka. The landlord was Delhiite who had few properties in Mumbai. He said people from Karnataka keep flats clean, I was surprised. He said, that's why he had kept my rents about 2+k below the market in same building. I was pleasantly surprised. Having lived in top 6 major Indian cities, I can saypeople in Bengaluru are indeed nice and modest. Delhi is for power and money, Mumbai is just money, Hyderabad is Movies crowd, Chennai is modest peoe, but not welcoming to outsiders, Ahmedabad is just boring AF and way too religious. I know it will hurt some people, but that's the fact. Also, I couldn't help but wonder after Paytm troubles, if that company was away from Delhi Power and Mumbai Old money, they would've had a better future. Old money has strong roots in Mumbai and Delhi, they don't tolerate any new entrants.
Mr. Kamath, I would love you to a do a WTF is Cinema in India, with some of the best filmmakers, film producers of India. My pick would from be SS Rajamouli, Sanjay leela Bhansali, Farhan Akhtar/Ritesh Sidhwani, Vijay Kirgandur, Prashanth neel basically the people who balance art and the business......
Nikhil has done good homework on research he was asking on point question .... good thing to see that a person from financial field is here to know something about our gaming industry ... and respect for @8bitThug that how he answered the questions so cleaverly .
So very well spoken by Thug ❤ handled the tricky questions like a boss !! 🎉 thanks for representing us always ❤ thug 🚀
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Joseph Kim is on different level in terms of market understanding and how effortlessly he is translating that info into simple words. Wow what a legend.
Major missed info from him on this pod is what kind of games work in India.
I am pretty sure Joseph felt like it was not worth joining this discussion panel.
Even when Nassir (Nasdaily) was a part of this podcast, one could easily observe the level of in depth knowledge, intellect and excellence in communication he had over other content creators.
Same with other international individuals ( Including NRIs working in US ).
And I think the flaw lies in our culture and education system, and I don't know how that's going to change, but if any core nationlist sees this, it is an initiative worth taking.
As a gaming entrepreneur I agree with most of the points addressed by Joseph Kim. Gaming as a career choice has to be appreciated at an high school level.
Konsi field mai business krta hai bhai?
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I gotta say Nikhil is an amazing person. Wonderful, humble, generous, and super charismatic. I (Joseph Kim- writing from my Gamedev YT channel) was and am super humbled to have been invited to such a great show. Just skimming through some of the comments here, I can see Nikhil has a really supportive community, and OMG Thug must be doing something really right to have such a huge and committed audience. Anyway, for some of you who wrote nice things about me... thank you guys. I'm used to doing super niche content for tiny audiences so it's cool to see so many people interested in gaming/gamedev content here.
Thanks for the insights
You shared some amazing insights into the gaming industry. I wish the podcast was longer!
He's a cheat lol
I don't know anything about gaming, but have watched the full video and was very much impressed with your insights and the deep knowledge you have in the industry
Awesome Joseph..and thank you.
Joseph Kim has a vision and clarity of thoughts. He correctly mentioned all the nuances of gaming industry and rightly put forward where and what Indians are lacking at. Indeed a true visionary.
Hats off to Nikhil, another master piece ❤
Day 150 for asking WTF is manufacturing?
Ind / Acc 🚀🇮🇳
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You’re too poor for that
Bhai Jo bana Raha hai voh toh dekhle.
Bc yaha pe.. nikhil k podcast se hi sikhni hai manufacturing tujhe...etne dino me toh factory bana k manufacturing karna chalu kar deta tu
25:10 Nitish showing respect to thug for how he handled one of the dangerous question for BGMI.
Thug 🙇
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He handled it well.
This is why these ppl get invitation to speak in public… Thug showing his qualifications are not mere papers🤞🏼❤️
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S8UL GOING AT THE SPEED OF ACTUAL SPACESHIP 🚀
Like Their Pendant 🙌🏻❤️
Abey ye bache kaha agye iss video k comments me 😂
Tum dogs se to acha hai 🥱 🐶@@stealthoverflow
@@gurubaxaniuday4884 beta padhai likhai kar jaake 😂
1 subscriber hai tera, koi career nahi hai isme.
Padhai likhai kar, D Class ki naukri milegi tab apne gareeb ma baap ka Sahara ban paega
@@stealthoverflow kisne kha mai subscribers ke liye betha hun 😂 abe sale already qualified CA hun 1.4 lakhs mahine ki job hai aur stock market vgera se 2 lakh aur kma leta hun tujse bhut achi life hai
So good to see India Game Developer Conference ( IGDC ) being mentioned at 2:05:05 . Glad to see Industry veterans on the podcast.
The fact that this long form podcast gets strong viewership shows that great content is always timeless. Also super helpful to see more Indians adopting to long form podcasts in the past year.
How many of those viewers who have clicked on the podcast have actually seen the whole video? The number would be very less
Waiting for a podcast on Space tech companies in India❤
Good idea. Defence too maybe and psu stock related maybe
Thug- The Visionaire🔥🚀🚀🚀
As a fulltime designer and a avid gamer with more than 12k hrs, i can proudly say this was one of the best podcasts for my domains. Thanks Nik! Would love to fill out that application.
Nice! Where do you work bro?
S8UL❤💙
Man i have never seen discussion on such level Joseph talking about lot of things its like a master class for many
That Nazara guy speaks so diplomatic answers. Not even a single question was answered to the point.
He cannot, as a owner of public company. Any share holder can take him to court including his opponents.
@@abhiwins123itna bhi kuch strict nahi hota bhai india hai china nahi 😅
@@anonymouswho2165hm tum bc pure corporate ko Indianise karo. "Idhar sab chalta hai"
@@anonymouswho2165spoken like a true Brokie
Gotta give it to him Thug just handled questions like boss… Uplifting the Scene💪🏼🤞🏼❤️
Here for 8 the bit the great thug
Next should be : WTF is fintech and WTF is Asset Management
I think they have covered the fintech òne
they have covered asset management as well
I love how Nikhil's trying to demystify game design down to its essence, not only with engines, platforms, and scripting languages, but also with the larger storyboard, streaming economics and actually generate something that an aspiring enthusiast can take away.
The podcast appeared to be heavily focused on mobile gaming, neglecting the broader gaming landscape in India. While mobile gaming may have a larger audience, it should not be the sole focus here when discussing the gaming industry in the country. Some people including me or I should say those with extensive gaming experience, may have anticipated a more comprehensive exploration of the true essence of gaming, which was lacking in the podcast. And I respectfully disagree with your point here ,Nikhil, did not even delve into the perspectives and experiences of dedicated gamers or the deeper significance of gaming. However, it is worth noting that the guest speakers, especially Kim, provided valuable insights into the Indian gaming community that even Indian gaming community may not have been aware of. Their knowledge and intellect deserves nothing but admiration and respect.
S8ul🚀
i loved the part where they talked abt designers and artists who're getting paid less then their work worth and would love to see changes in that area as an artist myself thanks for this it was very knowledgeable and helpful
Welcome to the most insightful, psychologically twisting, and unpredictable podcast out there. 🎉
He started with 1 cr allocation and everyone went silent after that 😅
What a gentleman he is, only nikhil allocated same amount of money
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Because as a listed company he can allocate his own money, and also as a gaming company he knows how many issues he is facing due to lack of talent in this sector
Can anyone please tell me how to apply? Where
This was THE epic moment! Massive Respect.
I invested in Nazara technologies in October 23 listening the news that Nikhil has invested in it. It has fell big 28% until now. So, just for the comment reader’s here please don’t invest blindly without doing any research of your own, like the mistake i made here.
You've certainly made a mistake that a rookie makes. But it is stupid to blame Nikhil over it because the guy didn't fake. He is still invested in it. He has a strategy and you don't. That is the problem.
@@yomamasohot6411 I’m not blaming anyone, just wanted to mention it so that no one else makes this mistake too.
Bro, if you played any game developed by nazara you will never invest in them. Look at their graphics. Pathetic. How are they going to compete in global level with no good games.
Joseph really have Very clear Future Vision. 1:17:56 I'm Listening Joseph and already on mission. This thing very few people understand. That future is Indie games.
This podcast is unique and different from usual one's, there's a lot to learn about the gaming industry. Kudos to thug he has worked hard to get to this forum ❤
Thugwa s8ul ke fan se salam
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Thank you Nikhil for this channel. I still can't believe all these videos are for free. These videos are informative and provide a very good knowledge and ideas to people like me who are clueless or trying to find direction on what we want to do in life. Thank you.
Joseph looks so much interested in building capabilities in India. Huge respect!
He will probably pack up and leave in 3 years. I do not doubt his passion, but I doubt the development of our ecosystem.
@@yomamasohot6411 I will be more optimistic but I won't be surprised if he leaves.
Thank you Joseph❤…..Everything you talked about was backed with examples and reality. Got to learn a lot from others as well🎉
Nice one Nikhil…..keep up with the curiosity driving in.
#S8ULOP
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I am 19 and “Just out of learning intent I am kind of in a dilemma whether or not take Nikhil’s questing attitude to be an essential part of learning or should we be more grounded with people who are well established and might provide us an opportunity. What’s your thoughts guys.
S8UL 🚀
Joseph Kim made a perceptive observation; it's true that India is struggling to produce skilled talent and is plagued by mediocrity. I've noticed that many of my friends chase after substantial salaries rather than pursuing their passion for their craft, which is quite disheartening.
Sad but a true fact. We go after money first.
NOW I KNOW HOW THUG IS LEADING 8 BIT AND S8UL HE IS REALLY GOOD STORY TELLER
Damn this podcast goes so deep when they start talking about psychology of battle royale games
I think one of the future episode should be on anime industry, there's a big chunk of Indian young audience who consume anime a lot, even people who are over 30 or close to that , as we have seen animes like Dragon Ball, we 've grown watching that
Nikhil is like a curious child. The podcasts are amazing
Sadly India Don't even own 1% of Actual Game Production Industry. Except Gambling games.
We don't even have single Game Production Company with $Billion Valuations.
But will Build 1.
Literally I Just recently realized I'm the First Indian Game Developer Who Released "First Multiplayer PC Game" on steam.
I'm not open for Investors because in Game Production Investor kills the project under pressure. Because Investor always hunting for profits and in Games Revenue don't come in before release. Which i Don't like. Allready rejected multiple Investments. And Krafton Incubation program is also Investment against equity. So I'm just open for Grant's/Supporters.
With no disrespect , the depth at which Joseph speaks, showcases the difference in intellect. Every hindsight he provides, is backed with accurate data and a strong explanation. If India could produce such intellects, be it any industry, we would be prospering at a rapid growth. Foundation plays a key role in developing a long term vision.
This is one of the best content available for indian young people who want to consider career in gaming ! Thank you Nikhil for publishing this !
Literally very big for eSports,
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I want Nikhil to have a podcast where he asks "as a 20 year old who wants to do nothing or knows nothing what to do in his/her life what should be done??"
Hi Nikhil and WTF team,
I know its difficult but can you try to do a podcast with all brokerage firms? (Groww, Zerodha, 5Paisa, Angel one, Upstox)
I think if he does a podcast with them they can't come to the podcast because nikhil always gives warning to investors that you should spend all your money into trading and all he guides investors a lot but on the other hand companies like upstox, groww, angel one are only doing business that's why I think that's why they don't come to podcast
Day 155 for asking WTF is manufacturing?
I believe this podcast delivered a summary of the current gaming industry so profoundly. It was an absolute joy to watch the whole podcast, and i applaud all the participants for contributing to nourish the Indian gaming industry. Keep up the good work and we are here to support you.
Thug 🧢🐐🚀🚀
Can relate to Mr Nitish. My niece (11 yrs old) and nephew ( 6 yrs) are so into Minecraft and Technogamerz. Also they like to watch their favourite streamers playing games. I think this is a substantial shift into the likes of today's younger generation compared to us millennials or even gen z.
Half way through the podcast and I can see Joseph is awesome ,he understands gaming very good and always having different perspective ,I like the way of thinking that there is opportunity of making games in India ,everybody is running behind becoming a professional gamer or streamer but there is also a opportunity of making games
25:11 Nitish be like - Are baba yeh toh dhoti khol rha hai 😂
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Day 156 for asking WTF is manufacturing?
This guy is dropping podcasts longer then movies & I'm all up for it🩵
Then you haven't listened to Joe Rogan I suppose?
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 I’ve been a loyal listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that pulling of something like it in INDIA requires some grit! :)
@@shortcinematicuniverse895 have been a constant listener of Joe Rogan’s podcasts as well. It’s just that doing something like it in India requires some grit!
@@shortcinematicuniverse895joe Rogan is boring and a shit talker
Nikhil at least has some useful conversation
Am i the only one who felt jospeh was the only one who was being honesty ? Indian guy couldn't justify going public nor could accept he made a mistake by going public. Krafton guy was scared, he was trained about what and how much to say. 8bit was just trying to sell gaming. Gaming can never be a career in india. Most of the so called gamers earn through UA-cam and streams whether than actual gaming. Nikhil knew people as are earning through streams rather than actual gaming. If you are giving your 10yr old an iPad then obviously he would not go out and play physical game. Sports is never going to die. Most of india cannot afford a good pc or a console. Not even a high end phone. Gaming will never become what it is in the US, in India.
Partly true in the end but things are changing. 'chapris' as people say are able to get top tier phones on emi and what not easily. Also it's not really necessary for physical sport to die & esports to emerge as a sole survivor.
@@kanishhh I agree to the second part while I share different opinion regarding the affordability of high end devices. I do not think majority of india, which is the real india is still available to afford a phone worth 40 thousand. Even if we hypothetical think everyone has a good phone still it doesn't mean they wants to make a living out of it. As nikhil gave the stat, 96% gamers are mobile gamers. It is likely that they play games in their free time. Also It is extremely hard to make money from mobile games as compared to pc and console gaming. Majority revenue of gaming industry comes from the company who sell their game's copy. Eg gta, cod, etc. Even pubg is declining. I don't think there is any other mobile game through which gamers can make money. Majority of india cannot afford a high end pc or a console or even if they can then they don't get time to play. Work life balance is so bad in India. You cannot make a living out of Mobile games. You have to play pc/ console games which has a pretty small market in India. You would find more viewership on mobile games streams then pc games stream in India. Because majority of people are most of the time not even aware that there is this particular game called xyz. These so called gamers have started making vlogs and doing random challenges rather than playing the actual game.
@@Indian.cricket911 India need to increase its per capita income for more disposable money after that...something can change
Like me lot of other people are also asking for
“WTF IS MANUFACTURING”
thug op❤ s8ul op🚀
S8UL 💓💓💓💓💓💓
would love to see a podcast on animation industry, as the anime form of entertainment is booming all over the world and it is still hasn't started in india in the form of production
To the point where Thug was saying that the world is moving towards shorts/reels culture, there's a seperate fanbase for podcasts these days, everyone's coming up with long durations of detailed podcasts of upto 2 to 3 hrs that clock pretty good views
Gaming can't be your primary career choice. But the game development can be. games are basically an end product. like a movie. It's meant to be consumed. now you can watch so many movies and develop a skill to review or talk about movies, now that can be a career path. Even if you look at the esports industry all over the world, it's still nowhere nowhere near the mainstream sports industry. becaus you need a large audience who will be willing to watch esports. So comparing cricket and gaming is invalid as of now. Streaming games is a different thing. because it's a value addition. People are not watching you because you are playing a game, but you are adding something extra on top of it. maybe humor, knowledge, unique techniques, or your personality. and it will always be a niche compared to other career paths. So don't get confused about a gamer, streamer, and content creator
When Joseph said "no iit guys are fine" it hurts 😢
As a tier 3 college guy it is too difficult to compete with these brightest minds of India
Comments section seems everyone is taking about thug and thug and didn't even understood the deepness of this podcast we will having so much issue and we nothing what the world has achieved in gaming that the development, eSports(that is only bgmi nothing else much), funding and support
yeah I'm so dissatisfied that they didn't talk elaboratively about future and progress of pc and console gaming in India and the criticality of piracy in India instead they talked so much about how mobile gaming is the future and blah blah and the juncture at which thug said that games will need to be fast pace and all that felt like utter bullshit to me for me games need to be good at 3 parameters which are story-gameplay-graphics , if a game stand strong on these then its most prolly gonna be great , sorry to say but we needed better insights than this , although I liked a lot of points spoken by joseph he talked about a lot of technical stuff too which were very penetrative .
Loved the podcast!
Joseph kim has very good knowledge bro 🔥
Thank you sooo much Nikhil !! The kind of questions you were asking was soooo soooo relevant and insightful and kudos the panel for sitting for such a long duration and answering each and everything soo patiently ! Please keep bringing more content
Real salaries of Game Art and Design guys and for engineers it will be 20% more if you have good negotiation skill otherwise it will be same
Small company: 2 LPA to 3.5 LPA (Entry level)
Mid level company: 3.5 LPA to 6 LPA ( Entry level)
Big company: 6-12 LPA (Entry level)
Disclaimer: Mainly mid level and big companies not look for freshers. They want atleast 2 years of experience and by chance if they hire like once in a year for freshers then the opening will be so less like 2-6 person only.
I cannot believe that today's age has made possible to record and share such information. Nikhil has been a great equalizer
Thanks nikhil for this 🎉
Day 180 for asking WTF is manufacturing?
Thug the men with vision ❤
The point with Nikhil is that he is pinpoint accurate, he is not shy of asking the real facts "Is the money going to South Korea?"
Inviting gaming influencers to provide feedback before launch is an amazing that can be used across other categories too 👏👏
Joseph's clarity and knowledge of his playing field is insane
A lot of people might not know
Especially those who are not into gaming
If you compare gaming with cricket in cricket if you are playing ranji trophy or and other similar event that's when you are getting paid it takes hardly 4 years for a 14 or 15 year old cricketer to play ranji or any other league and get paid a great price
BUT
while in gaming no one gives around 4 years if they don't get anything back which is okay and brings the bread in the house people in gaming want early succes and apart from that ranji player get payed a lot compared to an average esports player at that level and also in cricket if someone performs there is a probability that he will become famous but in gaming if u r not famous it's hard for you to earn money only 10 to 12 names will dominate here but then there will be lakhs waiting like one day it'll be our chance but it might not come so yeah the point of keeping a backup ready is really really correct coz if u are successful and loved one day it takes not even a second for the audience to bring you down and if u don't have audience u don't have money....
There is one word to describe what took you 2 paras, and that is 'ecosystem'.
Depends on the school is the biggest flaw and root of the problem in india.
For the same amount of skill, a person can get paid 5 lakhs as well as 50 lakhs, this huge disparity is what leads to talent going outside india.
Thank you guys. Really valuable podcast . Lot of insight for an engineering student like me who love games, and want to make something in gaming in India.
basically i realized that everyone tries to tell people about different opportunities but still no one can beat the 'IIT ENGINEER' in terms of money when everybody is talking about skills it kind of make me glad on my decision to join a iit
Please make a podcast on how to become a cricketer, you can invite cricketers, coaches, any bcci member, etc
I am living in Mumbai for almost 10+ years, though originally from Karnataka. I was once asked by my landlord when I was vacating the flat after 4 years if I knew anybody from Karnataka who wants to rent or from south if there was no one from Karnataka. The landlord was Delhiite who had few properties in Mumbai. He said people from Karnataka keep flats clean, I was surprised. He said, that's why he had kept my rents about 2+k below the market in same building. I was pleasantly surprised.
Having lived in top 6 major Indian cities, I can saypeople in Bengaluru are indeed nice and modest. Delhi is for power and money, Mumbai is just money, Hyderabad is Movies crowd, Chennai is modest peoe, but not welcoming to outsiders, Ahmedabad is just boring AF and way too religious.
I know it will hurt some people, but that's the fact.
Also, I couldn't help but wonder after Paytm troubles, if that company was away from Delhi Power and Mumbai Old money, they would've had a better future. Old money has strong roots in Mumbai and Delhi, they don't tolerate any new entrants.
Joseph is the most knowledgeable guy in the panel
Want manufacturing ❤😊❤😊
We need Vishi,gukesh, Sagar shah, vidhit, samay for a chess podcast.. It would be fun once again seeing u guys together offline.. 😂
Yess
Thug and s8ul op
Mr. Kamath, I would love you to a do a WTF is Cinema in India, with some of the best filmmakers, film producers of India.
My pick would from be SS Rajamouli, Sanjay leela Bhansali, Farhan Akhtar/Ritesh Sidhwani, Vijay Kirgandur, Prashanth neel basically the people who balance art and the business......
Next podcast on sneaker resellers like mainsteet etc or retail sellers like vnv or new emerging Indian sneaker brands like comet or gully labs
Nobody spoke about DoTA one of the biggest. India should develop some amazing competitive multiplayer games.
Thug handled the questions so well🎉
Want manufacturing podcasts 😊😊😊😊plssssssss
Thug #S8ul #soul
Joseph spitting facts the entire podcast 🔥
Nikhil has done good homework on research he was asking on point question .... good thing to see that a person from financial field is here to know something about our gaming industry ... and respect for @8bitThug that how he answered the questions so cleaverly .
Want manufacturing 😊❤😊❤😊
Joseph was literally monster in this podcast and I give a big thanks to joseph to share this knowledge ❤❤ love u Joseph
Want manufacturing podcast 😊😊😊😢😢😢😢😢😢
28%increase in share price from the day this video posted
Which company??
OG KAMATH 🎉
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Wtf is cv building and insights in recruiting in big firms
Please one ep on this 💯💯🙏🙏