Why The 2019 Honda CB650R Is Awesome Value For Money
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2019
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7:15 They added 4 piston calipers to the SV650 in 2019.
Thanks PW - appreciate the correction. I'll pin this comment
Dont have it in Oz yet though..
for my 2020 you mean...
@@Tonyx.yt. we got them here in the UK this year
Peakwanderer They really didn't need to as it was already best in class anyway! Regardless of the basic suspension and brakes the SV650 models have the best motor in the industry. Don't believe me, name another motor that is virtually unchanged after twenty years that still gets good reviews!
Got this masterpiece of engineering art as my first bike this spring. Worth every penny and every second you spend. You are breathtaking, Honda!
I bought the CBR650R. It's a great bike. Manual throttle. Surprisingly quiet, a great touring bike with enough speed to be fun. The exhaust on both is a work of art IMO.
I also have the CB650R even tough I first ordered the GSX-S750 from Suzuki but there were problems with the delivery, so I chose this one instead (couldn’t wait as it’s my first big bike)
I will never regret doing this, I love this bike 😎👍
Amazing quality, a screamer , ... just excellent.
You are breathtaking! (Cyperpunk2077)
@@rolandfullthrottle8316 those are both on my list lol, this is gorgeous bike and more modern technology, suzuki is so dated
Marvin's Reviews ETC. Must say the Gixxes is a cornering beast but indeed a bit dated. The dashboard put me off to be honest... I had de GSX-S125 as a first bike and it’s really good value for money. But it’s also dated... too bad.
If you want another choice it would be the Triumph Street Triple RS for me... more sportbike really. But amaaaazing bike overall ! 😎👍
One of the prettiest bikes currently being made
Agreed Henri!
Henri S true dat
Definitely one of the better middle weight nakeds. I am going to offend someone (sorry) but the MT07 looks like a transformer and I also prefer the CB650R over the SV650. Sv650 does have an easier to read dash and is cheaper to insure (I've asked)
100% agree
Scoffs in Ducati V4
Picked my CB650R up a couple of months ago. I absolutely love it. Thanks for this review which helped me make up my mind!
Enjoy! A cracking bike. After borrowing the CB1000R for a couple of months too, I think the 650 might be better suited to UK roads for the majority of the riding I do.
Great motorcycle, its super mild on the corners, ultra sweet suspensións, truly nice looking, top quality machine. I bought two months ago and cannot be happier
How well is this bike suited for daily commute ? 30 miles one way and heavy traffic usually.
I’ve been looking forward to hearing your views on this bike since I saw you’d been loaned one.
I actually love the indicators as DRLs - in fact I think the whole front end of this bike looks amazing. The full led lights and side swept four into one pipes sealed the deal for me. I find it pretty comfortable for use around town too, it feels fairly sedate at low revs but has plenty enough torque for most situations.
Great channel, keep up the good work 👍🏻
Thanks WSB - appreciate the support. I didn't mention the comfort but I agree - really nice seating position.
Nice video , I bought a cb650r 2 months ago and love it I took it around france and spain no probs . Iv had big bikes all my life now down to this 650 you don,t always need a large bike.
Good to hear you've had big bikes and still love the 650. A bit of riding history always impacts.
What a beauty.... Classic and Modern at same time!
Just got exactly the same one 5 days ago as my first ever bike. I loooooove it..i mean i am just waiting for sunny days to go on a tour with my CB650R...plus its so beautiful.
Enjoy LL!
Stumbled upon this video via the related videos list.
Excellent video! Really a quality piece of work. Great job describing what it's like to ride the bike, comparing it to the competition and describing the pro's and cons of the bike.
Excuse me while I'm off to explore some of the other content on your channel :)
The new CB line ups are absolute beautiful bikes. From the cb 150 upto the 1000 , they're distinguishable and unique. I'm planning on getting the cb300r, where I live the power is more than enough on the little 300 version, Honda CB's are the best nakeds today IMO
Top review man well done. Loving what you're doing with your videos and podcasts mate 👍🏼 thank your for keeping me entertained and informed 🙌🏼👌🏼
Cheers NT - appreciate the support. Makes it worthwhile!
I had a Honda Nighthawk 650 with an inline 4 cylinder engine many years ago and I loved how smooth and responsive it was. That’s a major reason why I would want this bike instead of the competitors with twins.
You and me both, brother. I had a 650s with the bologna slice pipes, and then 2 nighthawk S. Perfect size, enough power to be very entertaining. I’m not sure I’d still be here if I had a literbike
Great video mate, I was really thinking of buying the Street Triple RS but I have to be honest to myself this bike is all I need.
Great video. I am thinking about getting a cb650r after getting my licence and your video gives good info about it.
In case low end torque is really a problem, it is always possible to put a slightly larger sprocket in.
Excellent review - keep 'em coming!
Like your lovely review, thanks. And this is my ideal bike.
Am riding a MT25. A small cc bike. Previously like the MT series. But now i think i have come to love especially this 4 inline 650r
Great details peppered in -- not just a simple woohoo this motor is grrreat, but the great bits are actually mentioned (those yellow rear shocks for example :D). Great review!
Absolutely fantastic review 👍
Great review. Looks like a fun bike that's hard to really enjoy without going twice the speed limits (typical of inline 4 engines) :)
I like the running day lights, even more in the evening or at night, good safety feature and typical of all Hondas I've tried. What I don't get from Honda is the horn button above the indicators, wish they'd conform to the rest of the industry.
Fantastic review of a bike I'm lucky to own! I will be keeping an eye out for more of your content in the future; subbed!
Thanks Alex - appreciate your kind words. And welcome! Hopefully have a few more Hondas coming over the next few months
Great review ton of great info , just a nice job !
Considering the 2020 model as my first bike! looking forward to it!
Love this detailed review. This is a bike I'd buy.
Thanks LBA!
Excellent value. I think quite a lot of the Honda range have used the front indicators as daytime running lights. I like the idea but, as yet, haven't ridden a bike with them. Anyway, during daylight i tend to leave my main beam on as I think you've got a better chance of being seen and, of course, you won't blind any oncoming traffic during the day.
10:36 The Grom comes like this too. When I switched to aftermarket LED signals I just left the constant power wire disconnected. It should be easy to remedy on here with a little disassembly.
Nice vid Bob, I used to own a 09 Hornet and had an 09 ER6N for few weeks as a hire bike and TBH while the Hornet was more premium with USD forks, 100HP etc I liked how frugal the ER6 was and it's torque was much more usable in London. It made my Hornet feel gutless in the city.
BTW I think the indicator thing is not a bad idea I'm positive they will help being spotted when filtering and it would make drivers aware you're a motorbike instead of one of two car headlights!
Thanks BQ! That’s exactly why I love the street twin around town - all torque. It’s like the opposite of this bike cos it’s gutless at the top end!
Another ace video, thank you MB.
Cheers Aimen - appreciate the support
Now that was a great review 👌
Great video thanks. Quite a bargain that seems to go missed by many people. Great you focused on it!
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback
Great content as ever. Thanks
Add this bike about a year... Nothing in class to compare.. Building quality, power, beautiful bike... Worth every €... Very good review... Greatings from Portugal
I have the CB300 and I’m really looking forward to upgrading to the 650
I got the cb300r when it released in America. Everyone said naked bikes won't grow. I'm so glad I got it.
FYI: Relating to the always-on signals: the early Victory bikes had the same thing. Problem was they used a plastic housing. Melted the housings after six months, replaced under warranty and the dealer removed the third wire so they worked only as directional signals.
Excellent review!
Great review enjoyed your experience 👍 like this bike
Cheers!
My 86 CB700SC also has the front signal lights on all the time. Just makes you more visable.
Great review Sir, thank you :)
Great review. I want to test ride one of these soon
But now I’m torn between the CB650R or a Speed Triple. Any thoughts on comparing them?!
Good detailed review.
Definitely my upgrade in the near future. Currently the best looking bike on the market in my opinion.
Btw you deserve a lot more subs. It's hard to find reviews with this level of professionalism. Keep up the good work!
Thanks RW - appreciate the encouragement. Channel is growing quite nicely at the moment so I'm grateful for your support. Hope you enjoy this bike if you get it - I loved it and can see why you'd go in for one.
@@motobob Good to hear. I'm looking forward to seeing this channel blow up.
Agreed!!
I agree, this is a great bike, considered the previous model, I (at time of purchase) went with the street triple instead (on visual preference).
I can see why you went for the Street. Both great bikes!
I would get this bike only for the exhaust sound it makes. Have owned a CB1000 R and that exhaust note always used to put a smile on my face and egg me to twist the throttle and make it scream. In its current avatar, it looks fab. And yes, i agree what you say about the electronics. Rode my friends Street Triple RS and somehow it felt like the bike was taking away the effort of riding the bike. made it too damn simple. Yes i agree all of it would make Track riding simple, but here in Mumbai India we dont have access to a track anywhere near by. I asked him when was the last time he customized the setting to suit his riding as per condition and she said that it was set the day he got it and he never looked into it for the 6 months of riding. He didnt even change the Traction setting. So yes, i prefer a simple bike with ABS and TC. As long as its got Slipper Clutch i can easily manage clutchless up and downshifts and at times blip while downshifting.
Love the headers
I agree with you on simple electronics and better mechanical equipment. I would even pass on the abs brakes on this bike for sure
Nice review!
Such a beautiful bike 😍
At the moment I have the 125 and love it, the screen seems better on the 125 as it can be seen in any light. I also thought the same about the indicators but don't notice them now, apparently it comes from the US in having them on all the time.
I feel like in a racing game introduction whenever he starts talking.
Awesome video :) How’d you find the seat comfort/ergonomics etc??
Great review!!!
Thanks Danilo!
Nice bike! 👌
9:45 the display can be set to be brighter and it handles well enough even in the brightest days. must read the manual to find it.
Thanks for the tip
@@motobob you're welcome. If there's one complain I have about this bike (got mine just a week ago) is that they did a terrible job with getting to all these settings :) you have to hold the SET or the SEL button WHILE turning on the switch .. or something hacky like that ..
@@motobob here's the manual - in case someone is interested : www.manualslib.com/manual/970611/Honda-Cb650f.html?page=29#manual
Seems to fog up at high speeds though 😉
Is it good when it comes to water resistance? It rains a lot where I live. Also are they scratch resistant as well?
Thanks would love this
I was a fan of the Honda Hornet (Think it was the CB600F) in the late 2000's but eventually got the ER6N instead. This 650R looks great. Def my style of bike.
Yeah the hornet was awesome, but the CB650F didn't really do it for me. It was just a bit nothing. Think they've really turned it around with this one :)
Motobob is becoming my go to channel...
👍🤘🙌
This is a very well done video, easy subscribe for me.
I think the CB650R is the best looking bike in its segment, and at that price it’s amazing we don’t see more of these on the roads.
I'd be super tempted if I was buying a bike again. I paid £6k for my Street Twin with about 4,000 miles on it. No regrets, but this is a much more performance orientated bike. The only thing is that you never use the power in town, whereas you can ride the Street Twin full throttle away from the lights and the torque down low just rockets you away. But for countryside riding, this beats it hands down.
I agree, torque plays a huge part in making a good road bike but, if you commute and play ride the same bike, and you’re on a budget, the 650R makes a lot of sense. And, as you said in the vid, with a few mods it would look even better. I’m even tempted myself, and I don’t need a middle weight bike! 😂
Actually CB650 is on its segment...its in between the segment of mt 07 & sv650 as well as Z900,GSXS750 and MT 09 segment,both in pricing as well as power
Dirty Habitz on a budget so you think $9,000 US is a good bike to get if you on a freaking budget hell no
Because at that price people would rather get the better performance MT09 or Z900s.
If Moto-Bob had insane riding skills ,he would be the Chris Harris of Motorcycles!!! Absolutely look forward to anything he post !!! Get on a StreetFighter V-4S soon !!!!
Drove this gorgeous bike around London yesterday. I was AWFUL in low revs, slow speed etc. I stalled it about 12 times. I don’t think it’s the bike for town (for me) - but my it’s pretty. (It doesn’t have the sound I like either). Definitely test it if you’re thinking of buying one.
Too many cylinders.. that's why.
Torque rules. I'll choose bumpers all the way!
Brilliant - thanks!
I did my direct access and test on this thing. Currently own a naked sv650 k5. Would swap my SV for this any day. If only the CB sounded as good as my SV. Really great beginner bike.
Can’t beat the sound of a v-twin 👍🤘
That's one hell of a well made review! Thank you! I have had alot of bikes during the years, and I totally agree with you. This is the best on the market. Those americanized lit front indicators were a bit confusing to begin with, but I got used to them. I took one for a spin. Had some coffee and had to go for another spin. Waited for a week and tried it once more. And yes, I bought one! Painted the airintakes black, barend mirrors and a tailtidy. I swapped with my mates MT07 and we both agreed the CB650R is the better bike. So I bought one in A2 mode for my son aswell!
That’s a good shout on painting the air intakes. They do stick out a bit. Bet it looks much neater
@@motobob It does! Huge improvement.👍
@@motobob You can see it at Instagram John_neomaster
Wish we got the Black color in the USA. That bike looks sharp!
Brand new one for $9K in Olympia on Craig's list. Very good review!
informative vid. thanks
torque is proportional to displacement. Every 650cc bike will make about the same peak torque. The L4 has a short stroke, and lower piston speed, which means it will make peak torque at *higher* rpm than the twins. You can also install lower gears so you get into the power band quicker.
You should do more motorbike reviews.Really good.
Thanks Garth - I'll try to get hold of more bikes in the coming months once the new bike launches cool off
So first off, GREAT REVIEW for actual logical, everyday thoughts on a really nicely done review, EXCELLENT JOB SIR! As someone who just sold an MT07, and at the time, also owned a Z650, and had also just test drove a Triumph Trident, I have to agree with this overall brilliant review. This is without a doubt, the "grown up" middle weight version of all the other bikes in this class. I purchased a 2021 CB650R just a couple months ago after watching this, and dozens of other reviews, , and I could not be happier. I immediately sold the Z650 after owning the CB for just a couple of weeks, and have zero regrets! This bike feels SOOOO much more solid than all the others. The Honda 4cylinder feels and sounds so much more like a bada$$ middle weight. It's much smoother than the MT and the Z, both of which are super "twitchy and spazzy" on the throttle, and you can honestly feel the maturity in this bike compared to the others the minute you sit on it. After hearing SOOO many people talk about the torque advantage with the MT07, I realized (and researched) that the acceleration times are the exact same with the Honda CB, so I'm not sure why it's so often brought up in these comparisons. Truth is, it's more reliable, feels better, rides smoother and is just as quick, and even faster top speed, than all the others! The Honda is just better! If you want wheelies and plasticky feel, then consider the others for sure, but if you want a bike that changes the way you feel about a middle weight naked bike, then go test drive the Honda CB650R and you will see/feel exactly what I'm talking about. Stay safe, have fun, and enjoy yourselves. Cheers!
A guy in town is selling his 2019 with 4k miles, SC full exhaust, few minor exterior things. Asking $9500. Is that worth it considering it’s 4 years old, 4k miles?
@@_N4VE_ Hey there. That's a little high I think, but not a terrible price with the SC exhaust (I wish I had the SC exhaust on mine) and some other things. I got my 2021 CB650R (updated LCD screen and a few other things) with only 1000 miles on it, with a half exhaust system (MIVV exhaust, pretty sick system but not as badass as the SC) and a few things like levers and signals etc.., and paid the same price. I get that everything is selling for more nowadays, but the brand new ones are the same price, minus the destination and freight charges of course. It would be great if you could get it closer to $8,500 for sure. But I get that sometimes you pay just to be done with it and to start riding asap. Overall, I still super satisfied with the bike and can't see myself as happy on anything else comparable.
@@josephking7448 So after talking with him he says he lowered the asking price to 8k, and that it actually has 7k miles. Is that a reasonable price? I don’t like that it has more miles than I thought tho. Not familiar with bikes, but how much is considered “high miles” for bike motors? I’m much more a car guy so this will be my first bike
Thats one sharp bike!
Yup!
I had a BROS 400 in the early 2000s which had always-on indicators.
I think it was a USA spec bike.
Went the other day by the dealer to see the 2021 version. It’s kinda weird how they managed to make the tail fender even worse than the 2020 version. Other than that under closer inspection and I f want to sound picky there are some things that make the bike seem cheap. Like the part where the body connect to the front suspension. You can see some bad welding parts there. Even though I like the new look way better than the f series from Honda I’m not sure I’ll buy one. I’m still between the cb650r, xsr700, trident and the street twin. I know they’re not the same thing all 4 of them but these are the bikes on my list.
I hope this Honda will come as a sport touring bike with a bit more torque and power. I drive a ‘15 Yamaha MT09 Tracer now but I am disappointed it is not the quality like Honda. My previous bike was a Honda and my next one will be.
I love the CB650R. Beautiful, superb fit and finish, sounds great, and rides great. When I am ready for a new(er) bike I will get one.
But calling it awesome value for the money is kind of iffy. (These are all Canadian Prices)
The Z900 is 700$ more for an extra 300ccs (948cc).
The MT-09 is 500$ more for an extra 200ccs (847cc).
And the GSX-S750 is 300$ LESS for an extra 100ccs (749cc.
Honda can only justify the price because of the reliability and the attention to detail(Which I like!). It is great value, only if you gauge the value on the quality of the bike, not the performance.
Well duh, not everyone is after pure performance. Those bikes you mentioned, are either inferior in terms of riding refinement, or build quality. Even MT-09 has issues and not as good as it seems.
Here in the USA the price of this bike is about the same as z900 and MT09. So, as in a comparison to the z900, you could get 948cc and 125hp. Then again, the Honda looks to be a high quality machine and at 94 hp and 445 lb kerb wt it's no slouch. I don't see many around, but it's still early to tell how the sales will be.
@No_Name did you read my entire comment? I literally say that “It is great value, …if you gauge the value on the quality of the bike,”
@No_Name Ah, now I understand what you are arguing. I definitely could have used horsepower here as the metric to be more exact with the comparison for sure, I agree. However, In my experience motorcycles of a same class you can guess the torque and its range from one to another judging on CCs.
CBR650R
82hp @10,900rpm
43lb/ft @8000rpm
GSX-S750 300 dollars less.
99hp @10200rpm +17 700rpm earlier
54.3lb/ft @9060 +11 1000rpm later
Z900 is 700$ more.
125hp @9500rpm +43 1400rpm earlier
72lb/ft @7700rpm +29 300rpm earlier
MT-09 is 500$ more.
115hp @10000rpm +33 900rpm earlier
65lb/ft @8500rpm +22 500rpm later
Wow cool cb 650 astig bro
My first bike was a Honda 750 four (I bought it new 1976). The CB650R is lighter, faster, got better brakes, suspension and has nearly 100 HP. I’d consider this in the middleweight naked sector !!
It'd be nice to have one of each :) The old 750 four and it's modern counterpart.
considering the price tag I really don't think mt07 is it's competitor, I think you should at least compare it with the mt09 and the Z900 which are wayyyyyyy more powerful and fun to ride with. Besides all that this bike come in with a wet weight of 202kg, that's liter bike kind of weight, not saying it bad or anything, but it's actually far more heavier than the mt09
The only reason I can think of buying this bike is that you're living in Australia ,and you have just got a Learner permit which means you will have a 3yrs restricted license, this bike is actually Learner approved (LAMS) in Australia, but keep it in mind the power of this bike it's been restricted by the ECU at about 35kw if I'm not mistaken, unlike the mt07 they actually reduced the engine size from 689cc to 655cc. Like I said if you're going to be having a restricted license for the next 3yrs, and you just couldn't ride a small bike, buy this bike and get the ECU flashed, with a full exhaust I would say you'll be getting 90hp at the wheel. it will be fast enough to get you in trouble.
But is it really worth it?
I don't know
Cool! Good bike
It's a lovely bike. Here in the USA, it costs $9299 as does the Kawasaki Z900abs.. I picked up the Z
Great quality content! Liked and subbed. . . . And now commented :)
Cheers DG!
Good video. You say it’s good for City ride but is it ok for the occasional overnight cruise?
I am planning to get this as my next bike and possibly my forever bike, since I don't see the use of higher cc bike like the 900cc or more. I just don't think I could use high cc bikes to their full potential when I will be maiming commuting to work, going on short trips and maybe going on weekend rides a few times.
Would be interesting to whatch some custom work based on this bike
nice review
Nice fast touring bike!!!
Led indicators on this bike also feature on the CRF300L and Rally
Probably the best nake in that range...
SV650X is quite a bit cheaper here upfront and longer-term on service.
Value for money bike is not just about the purchase price but the running costs and while I love the Honda I bet that inline 4 is not as frugal as the kwak/yam that inline4 motor is going to be more expensive to service as well. I do like Honda's different approach, the suspension will be vastly superior and LED lightning is pretty darn cool on a sub £7k bike.
2:40 “makes for super-addictive acceleration. The next 20 seconds of video remind me of pulling 2nd and 3rd gear rips on my ‘86 700 Nighthawk S. Sub-4 second 0-60 is indeed grin-inducing. Faster wouldn’t be more fun; just more potentially problematic.
I'm tempted to buy one purely because it has a throttle cable!
In the UK is nicely priced, here in Mexico the Street Triple RS is just 1,200 pounds more expensive. Actually this bike is priced just the same as a Duke 790, such a shame.
In other words, it's in a class of its own👍
It absolutely is. Beautiful engine, clutch and gearbox. An engineering masterpiece. Just a shame that it's too small for me.
how tall are you? i'm 1.90m
you really sold me on this
1:12 the yams are also considerably lighter than the CB650R too ;)
True. I mentioned it at the end, but should have mentioned it up front too. Thanks for the feedback - appreciated
The Africa Twins have had those front indicators permanently on half brightness for some time. Are you going to try the sport version? I would be interested to see how it compares for physical size to the Fireblade. Could be another usable sports bargain.
Potentially! I just need to get some free time to pick up another demo
Always-on front signals are the norm in the US. Probably just a money saving thing to make them all have it.
I think I am going to buy it as a beginner bike one of the reasons is that CB is like a kitten at low rpms till 5000 or 6000 but MT 07 is like a beast even at low rpms. Btw CB has 94 or 95 hp and 64 Nm torque and MT is like 75 hp and 67 hp.
Also thx for that really awesome review It was one of the best because I almost watched every CB650R review 😅
Thanks Mert!
Indicators turned on at galf brightness is to ensure motorists know that it’s a motorcycle and not just a bicycle light.
Its for safety purpose. Personally i owned the smaller sibling, and the indicator do serve its purpose over in asian countries where there’s a lot of motorcyclists around
half*
Thanks for the info Aaron