SpaceX Finally Does The Last Big Starship Test Before Flight 5!

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
  • SpaceX’s Starship Ship 30 for the next launch is complete… but requires more testing? Starbase’s Starship Tower Two goes up faster and faster! Will it go up in time to meet the goal? Is SpaceX really going to destroy the ISS for NASA? Why is NASA’s moon rover being replaced by concrete? Essential building blocks for life on Mars. Does this mean life on Mars?
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  • @Whataboutit
    @Whataboutit  2 місяці тому +75

    An added ablative layer below and a higher grade heat tile on top. Is this going to make it through reentry? What do you think?

    • @BrianBull
      @BrianBull 2 місяці тому +9

      i hope so

    • @TheMcMagnus
      @TheMcMagnus 2 місяці тому +2

      Sure, but how will they know how much was really needed? Will they recover it and see how much was ablated? Or use the same protection until they can land?

    • @arnoldsmith5754
      @arnoldsmith5754 2 місяці тому +1

      we will be watching as we cant design any better shield not being employed by spacex

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 2 місяці тому +8

      Given how well the "inferior" system worked, yeah, this should be great.

    • @alastairmiles2313
      @alastairmiles2313 2 місяці тому +1

      I think it ought to. The last ship made it down, even it fell apart while doing so! Ship 30's got a stronger tiles and an ablative layer. That layer can't stay part of the design if they want starship to be properly reusable. But if it lets then recover ships and learn in the meantime then it's all good.

  • @michaelhess4825
    @michaelhess4825 2 місяці тому +136

    Viper over budget, cancel it. SLS over budget, SPEND MORE! Yep, love our congress.

    • @Can_non69
      @Can_non69 2 місяці тому +6

      Car repairs. Building a house. Grocery shopping.
      Nothing comes in on budget.

    • @MrGoesBoom
      @MrGoesBoom 2 місяці тому +19

      Even better, the Viper rover is pretty much finished. They wanted some more testing done. It's the contractor for the commercial launch vehicle that's over budget ( and will still get paid ) Scott Manley has a great vid on the subject, as well as how stupid it is.

    • @Whataboutit
      @Whataboutit  2 місяці тому +18

      Sign this: nasawatch.com/artemis/an-open-letter-to-congress-opposing-viper-cancellation-that-you-can-sign/

    • @oldnick4707
      @oldnick4707 2 місяці тому +3

      ​​@@Whataboutit,
      Thank you for this link! I'm in there buddy! Lol

    • @MrEd2291
      @MrEd2291 2 місяці тому +5

      @@Can_non69 The difference is car repairs, building a house, and grocery shopping get done and do not drag on for years.

  • @Chuck8541
    @Chuck8541 2 місяці тому +89

    Also...SpaceX is gonna give us an HD video feed of the ISS falling apart as well. Just like we've finally seen near real time plasma around an aerospace vehicle coming into the atmosphere, now we're going to see the International Space Station do it!

    • @hueyrosayaga
      @hueyrosayaga 2 місяці тому +19

      As awesome as that sounds, it's gonna be sad to watch

    • @hueyrosayaga
      @hueyrosayaga 2 місяці тому

      The ISS is gonna mimic IFT-3 💀

    • @Chuck8541
      @Chuck8541 2 місяці тому

      @@hueyrosayaga Yeah, definitely. I remember seeing the Leonardo module while touring the Kennedy Space Center, a couple decades ago.

    • @schway8193
      @schway8193 2 місяці тому +3

      If that’s true it’s going to be awesome

    • @Chuck8541
      @Chuck8541 2 місяці тому +3

      @@schway8193 Yeah, definitely. We get so many amazing firsts, with SpaceX.
      It really goes to show how slow, bureaucratic, and stuck in engineering dogma, that legacy space agencies, and contractors are stuck in. Nothing new and exciting comes from them anymore.
      SLS brand new, but the camera view we got looks like a camera from the 90s. Better than none, but still poor quality.

  • @robwagnon6578
    @robwagnon6578 2 місяці тому +43

    One thing that SpaceX has gotten right. It's like I heard before, if you never make any mistakes, you never learn anything. Yet SpaceX is learning to not just fix errors but improve working structures. I hope to see a moon base in my lifetime:)

    • @SeanDSarcasm
      @SeanDSarcasm 2 місяці тому +2

      if you do it wont have anything to do with space x

    • @Nuke-MarsX
      @Nuke-MarsX 2 місяці тому +5

      @@SeanDSarcasm it certainly will, in his lifetime its basically impossible for a new better launch sytem to be developped, so starship is the only one, which has something to do with spacex obviously

    • @SeanDSarcasm
      @SeanDSarcasm 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Nuke-MarsX how is it impossible? and how did nasa pull this off in the age of no internet 12 times in a shorter span than space x has been trying to just stop failing?

    • @Nuke-MarsX
      @Nuke-MarsX 2 місяці тому +3

      @@SeanDSarcasm oo i get it now, youre clueless troll, thanks

    • @SeanDSarcasm
      @SeanDSarcasm 2 місяці тому

      @@Nuke-MarsX lol right

  • @Hawkido
    @Hawkido 2 місяці тому +25

    Send a tank of frozen potable water instead of concrete. Then at least the trip will not be pointless. It would be delivering a mass of an essential resource that could be retrieved during a lunar mission in that region.

    • @shaunandsqueak
      @shaunandsqueak 2 місяці тому +4

      fully agree! its seems so stupid to waste the effort on nothing! much like throwing the space station away...

    • @Hawkido
      @Hawkido 2 місяці тому

      @@shaunandsqueak I understand the base sentiment about the ISS as well, but metal fatigue is a real concern. Extreme heating and cooling every 90 minutes over the past decades has and will continue to weaken the ISS structure to the point that each month there is an ever growing risk of sudden total structural failure due to the pressure inside the station. Having the station explosively pop at that altitude would litter that region of space with debris that could remain a threat to that orbital shell for decades. That is currently the safest orbital shell for a space station as it can (via atmospheric drag) de-orbit dangerous trash yet still be within the earth's protective magnetic field preventing the worst of the sun's radiation.
      Imagine a reinforced docking hardpoint with a solar array assembly with IR cooling panels capable of having 4 or more Starships docked. This could replace and upgrade the ISS, and also make it easily retrofittable in the future by replacing each starship used as space station modules one at a time. This would be more than the pressurized volume of the ISS for each Starship involved, and introduce the capability of adding specialized Starship modules for testing micro-g manufacturing/chemistry/botany/etc...

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому +1

      Why frozen?

    • @Hawkido
      @Hawkido 2 місяці тому +5

      @@ThatOpalGuy When in space water will freeze, when water freezes, it's volume changes (it expands roughly 10%). If the water were not frozen you would need to leave a option of the tank empty to account for the expansion, thus introducing Sloshing. By pre-freezing the water you eliminate "Sloshing" of liquid water and the stress of freezing upon the container. Human experience in space is about managing risks. By avoiding an inevitable occurrence which could have unpredictable outcomes (water in space can freeze in many different ways, risking rupturing the container) by having the occurrence happen BEFORE the launch you completely avoid the risk involved.

    • @Hawkido
      @Hawkido 2 місяці тому +1

      meant to say portion... brains are weird, mine moreso.

  • @Kyplanet893
    @Kyplanet893 2 місяці тому +22

    There’s an open letter to Congress going around people can sign to hopefully reverse the cancellation of VIPER

    • @kylekyle4123
      @kylekyle4123 2 місяці тому +4

      i signed it

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому +1

      It's a weird law, and viper needs to proceed.

  • @martinwasala6638
    @martinwasala6638 2 місяці тому +69

    I explained that heat tile problem to my 13 year's old son and he was like "So why they don't make the heatshild like fish skin where each tile covers partially they neighbouring tiles. In this way the tiles are attached only on one side and they can expand". Well maybe not such a bad idea. Then, when you leave out the ablative layer maybe you can come out with around the same weight. The attachment to the body would be more complicated now but you would need only one or two attachement points

    • @modeticklestv4601
      @modeticklestv4601 2 місяці тому +8

      weights more

    • @HocketSmith
      @HocketSmith 2 місяці тому +15

      Sharp kid but yeah I think they want to make it as light as possible

    • @wj625
      @wj625 2 місяці тому +19

      It’s a good idea! I like where his thought process is going! Keep up the critical thinking. Weight is one consideration but my concern would be if the heat gets in the over lap! Thats awesome he is thinking like that though, definitely not what I was thinking about at 13 lol

    • @MoonLandingz
      @MoonLandingz 2 місяці тому +5

      not sure how that would impact tile expansion as the tile heats up. If tiles are overlayed like scales, they would likely begin to lift up off each other as the tiles heat up.

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 2 місяці тому +7

      What about when the ship does a re-entry burn and the wind, what little there is, is blowing the opposite direction to where it could get up under overlapping tiles? Or even for the landing burn, or if the ship temporarily goes sideways or tilts the wrong way? The forces involved with the resistance would tear them off fairly quickly if they overlapped in such a fashion unless you did something to mitigate that. But then you're talking even more weight. Not a bad idea at all, but not one that can work here, or at least that I can see with my limited knowledge.

  • @all5stars
    @all5stars 2 місяці тому +7

    They aren't doubling the launch cadence you know they gonna lose the first one on the next test. That's not a diss they even know that, its literally why they are building that second tower before next test

    • @gary.richardson
      @gary.richardson 2 місяці тому +1

      We know nothing until it happens.
      Adding the tower can be smart in an opposite way by increasing cadence after the results are in.
      With a subsequent increase in cadence, adding a 3rd and 4th tower makes sense for de-risking the increased pace and improving build speed.

    • @AmgineIX
      @AmgineIX 2 місяці тому

      The next launch will be before the next tower is functional…

  • @hadlock
    @hadlock 2 місяці тому +2

    The writing and especially the editing are f*cking on point today, you are firing on all 8 cylinders sir, keep up the good with

  • @steveanddiddy
    @steveanddiddy 2 місяці тому +3

    Also, you could add more observation equipment, long term scientific experiments, and other stuff to make it even more useful. It may not be manned but automation would work well up there.

  • @romanvonkolln4330
    @romanvonkolln4330 2 місяці тому +18

    Felix, greetings from good old Germany. (Bochum)
    I will watch this episode now, but let me tell you, that no content on youtube (and Senkrechtstarter ;) ) means more to me than yours :) Still hope to meet you someday at Space Creator Day or somewhere else. What a journey so far!

    • @Whataboutit
      @Whataboutit  2 місяці тому +3

      THANK you, Roman! I will be at the next SCD in October! Would LOVE to meet you there!

    • @romanvonkolln4330
      @romanvonkolln4330 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Whataboutit oh wow, sooo cool. I wrote "someday" because I won't be able to be there this year - but I'll be joining the livestream! Exciting times! keep it up!

  • @sammyspaniel6054
    @sammyspaniel6054 2 місяці тому +55

    Can crusher, Pez dispenser. I love it. My 8 year-old called a skunk a fart squirrel the other day. Elon calls fingers "meat sticks".

    • @Whataboutit
      @Whataboutit  2 місяці тому +11

      XD Fart Squirrel! Love it!

    • @robertvandeveer1846
      @robertvandeveer1846 2 місяці тому +8

      @@sammyspaniel6054 Funny. I was cleaning out our garage when my then 4 year old daughter asked how many fish catching sticks we had. A memory that still makes me chuckle.

    • @stuplays6632
      @stuplays6632 2 місяці тому +1

      My little sister used to call dragonflies... "crocodile flies" Cause they look more like crocodiles with wings than they do dragons lol 😆

    • @alaricvis09
      @alaricvis09 2 місяці тому +2

      I work on cell towers. Many carriers have a rounded box that hybrid cables (fiber and power) from the ground come into the bottom of. These get distributed into individual wires inside and then you have a bunch of small cables coming out the bottom and running out to each radio. We call it a squid.

    • @Thuddster
      @Thuddster 2 місяці тому

      Ted Lasso and his feet fingers!

  • @Chuck8541
    @Chuck8541 2 місяці тому +12

    SpaceX literally and figuratively destroying the ISS, and NASAs entire model is so appropriate.

  • @_photonx6017
    @_photonx6017 2 місяці тому +6

    18:10 Summer in Earth's Northern Hemisphere, you mean.

  • @edbrackin
    @edbrackin 2 місяці тому +5

    Nice animations showing the new Dragon.

    • @sander915
      @sander915 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah the animator for WAI is goated

  • @theoverworkedgardener5648
    @theoverworkedgardener5648 2 місяці тому +14

    Hopefully SpaceX puts a bunch of cameras on the International Space Station so we can see it when it disintegrates on the way down. Be a sad day but would be a cool thing to see you though

    • @gary.richardson
      @gary.richardson 2 місяці тому +2

      Maybe they can put fish scale tiles on the re-entry facing surface and gather data on where the failing points are from the inside-out.
      In fact, it might make for one last great scientific experiment by separating each module into different expendable high risk re-entry concepts.
      The goal would be to see how close each module can get to the earth without failure and one gimbaled Raptor on each one in case of success.
      Since the station is deorbiting over an area considered fairly safe, it seems worth the risk.

    • @sysbofh
      @sysbofh 2 місяці тому +2

      I love this idea, but I don't think there will be much to watch. This is the kind of thing I believe will go from 0 to 100 in a fraction of a second. Something like "now we have image, now we don't".

    • @theoverworkedgardener5648
      @theoverworkedgardener5648 2 місяці тому +1

      @sysbofh hey look at that... wait, where did it go.

    • @highnessrm9256
      @highnessrm9256 2 місяці тому

      Sad to dispose of the trash ? No attachment is good.

  • @BukuiZhao
    @BukuiZhao 2 місяці тому +144

    So many bots here… probably the first non-bot comment. UA-cam needs to do something about those bots.

    • @Whataboutit
      @Whataboutit  2 місяці тому +37

      Agreed! Thanks for being real!

    • @blackswansystem
      @blackswansystem 2 місяці тому

      @@BukuiZhao lol

    • @UpstateGamer
      @UpstateGamer 2 місяці тому +37

      @@BukuiZhao between the bot comments and the terrible AI channels, UA-cam is trending down.

    • @bikepacker9850
      @bikepacker9850 2 місяці тому +17

      Where are the bot comments?

    • @UpstateGamer
      @UpstateGamer 2 місяці тому +4

      @@bikepacker9850 scroll down and youll notice some with weird emojis, bot comments.

  • @clarencewildes1747
    @clarencewildes1747 2 місяці тому

    When I worked in telecommunications, we tested new transmission products to destruction. We tested it until it failed. Over and over until the manufacturer got it right.

  • @PeteSty
    @PeteSty 2 місяці тому +5

    And I, Bruno, will dive 1000 feet. Into a block. Of Cement. But NASA calls it a "Mass Simulator". Which cost $450 MILLION bucks. Who are these people?

    • @jim-stacy
      @jim-stacy 2 місяці тому +2

      Corporate greedy politicians

    • @ernestgalvan9037
      @ernestgalvan9037 2 місяці тому

      “Who are these people ?”
      Politicians. With Pork to dispense to their Contributers .

    • @filonin2
      @filonin2 2 місяці тому

      These people are Congress, not NASA.

    • @jeremytaylor3532
      @jeremytaylor3532 2 місяці тому

      @@PeteSty it is actually a block of gold pressed latinum. A ransom for our Alien Overlords.

    • @Coyote6745
      @Coyote6745 2 місяці тому

      They had a fully built rover that was planned to go to the moon and explore the south pole. Unfortunately it hit the 30% over budget limit and NASA was forced to cancel the rover and go with the "Mass Simulator"

  • @keithmcintyre6403
    @keithmcintyre6403 2 місяці тому

    It was nice to see a video with no product placement in the middle. Just pure space stuff!

  • @ohedd
    @ohedd 2 місяці тому +1

    Reason they use the modified Dragon with Draco thrusters is because the ISS is big and flimsy, so you dont want as much thrust but you still want lots of impulse. If you used a Starship you'd have more than enough impulse in the RVACs, but you'd also have waaay too much thrust. The station would literally get ripped apart by the torque and some energetic event might cause debris to remain in LEO. Don't want that.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому

      Still a chance it could break

  • @Wandering_John
    @Wandering_John 2 місяці тому +3

    Sounds like Viper needs a GoFundMe!

    • @sander915
      @sander915 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes! My money is down...

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому +2

      I propose using the money we pay congress.

  • @supergeek1418
    @supergeek1418 2 місяці тому +1

    My heat shield prediction?
    There's still going to be some relatively significant damage to the heat shield, but the Starship will land relatively undamaged due to the backup ablative layer.
    When knows? Perhaps "rapid reusability" will come down to "rapid heat shield refurbishment".

  • @the-real-iandavid
    @the-real-iandavid 2 місяці тому +7

    Doesn't Earth have two summers? So, how can the Lunar summer be the same time as "Earth's summer"?

    • @NoobtooberMan
      @NoobtooberMan 2 місяці тому

      Mosty just a coincidence. Earth is tilted by about 23 degrees which causes the seasons and the moon has a tilt of 1.5 degrees, which causes less overall seasonal changes. This would still put the north and south pole of the moon in darkness for half of the year. 👍

    • @filonin2
      @filonin2 2 місяці тому +1

      @@NoobtooberMan He meant that's it's summer in December on the bottom of the planet that no one cares about.

  • @lydia3567
    @lydia3567 2 місяці тому

    Wow, your enthusiasm is contagious! I just found your channel and I love your content. I wish I had found this sooner!

  • @thebarkingmouse
    @thebarkingmouse 2 місяці тому +7

    Having a dedicated landing tower would make sense. No launch required equipment. If there is an accident, minimize loss.

    • @Lu.capuchino
      @Lu.capuchino 2 місяці тому

      You would be wasting a tower that you couldn't launch from

    • @Lu.capuchino
      @Lu.capuchino 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Wi2Low Nope, the other way around, you want another improved pad for more launches

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Wi2Low Or they go with a hybrid approach, they build a tower and outfit it to catch and IF that works out they can add a launch table later.

    • @filonin2
      @filonin2 2 місяці тому

      That means you would not be rapidly reusable. The booster can't fly 3x per day if you need to switch towers.

    • @johnd.7792
      @johnd.7792 2 місяці тому

      A catch only tower may be useful for the second stage, but the booster would need launch infrastructure...
      But the second stage will be built in greater numbers.
      I kinda picture it as the booster ready to go in short order, and the second stage would be more like falcon 9 is currently.

  • @joshuamercer854
    @joshuamercer854 2 місяці тому +1

    Sometimes when I see the progress SpaceX is making.. it makes me wonder if at some point in my life an average person like me will get the chance to go to space.. It would be a real dream.

    • @robb8235
      @robb8235 2 місяці тому

      In the near future…. I see jobs being offered in space. Construction being the major employment, then jobs that support the construction workers… medical workers, food service… etc.

  • @HOANGNAM-jm6oc
    @HOANGNAM-jm6oc 2 місяці тому +4

    12:19 to keep the booster from running away💀

  • @peterclarke3020
    @peterclarke3020 2 місяці тому +2

    Of course SpaceX have been able to find out which parts of stage zero go wonky after a launch, and do which bits need to be made more robust and or protected. It’s yet another case of iteration being needed to establish what works best. They start out with a minimum viable system, and work their way up from there, not building any parts that are unnecessary.

  • @SalmonSnake80
    @SalmonSnake80 2 місяці тому +10

    18:11 Earths summer 😂 Sounds like some flatearth shit 😂

    • @cab63868386
      @cab63868386 2 місяці тому +2

      @@SalmonSnake80 🤣🤣🤣Yeah plus which summer there’s 2?

    • @jnawk83
      @jnawk83 2 місяці тому

      ​@@cab63868386you could argue for three - in the global south (that is, the bit of the globe that is south of the equator, not that other bullshit meaning), summer spans the new year.

  • @John-hw3ds
    @John-hw3ds 2 місяці тому

    Development and construction is so astonishingly fast it's mind boggling.

  • @benaminconeglon5525
    @benaminconeglon5525 2 місяці тому +1

    10:50 Okay i know it’s confusing but that is NOT a booster, it’s a V2 ship aft test tank called TT16 the external stringers are for the can crusher 2.0.

  • @WizardKingCorey
    @WizardKingCorey 2 місяці тому +6

    Well done WAI team

  • @rogercorbett122
    @rogercorbett122 2 місяці тому

    It would be great to see the next launch be a complete success, but I would expect further glitches with the heat shield on re-entry.

  • @JohnPowell6
    @JohnPowell6 2 місяці тому +3

    I think they should use a couple of Ships to test out transpiration cooling instead of tiles, but maybe the math works out to not make it worth while to even try. Really can't wait for Stoke's orbital tests.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 місяці тому +1

      It's also not easy to do in terms of engineering on very large surfaces.

    • @gary.richardson
      @gary.richardson 2 місяці тому

      I wonder if Stoke might be granted funding to retrofit separated modules. to test variances on their re-entry designs.

  • @arthurwagar88
    @arthurwagar88 2 місяці тому

    Concrete. Ridiculous. Some one suggested a tank of water for future use. That makes sense.
    Thanks again for good stuff.

  • @Ben_Gunner
    @Ben_Gunner 2 місяці тому +3

    Another excellent show from Felix and the WAI team 🚀🍻

  • @Sixotoo
    @Sixotoo 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks Felix, I spit my beer in my lap when you spoke about Pez being a questionably flavored candy. 🍬

  • @BokoMoko65
    @BokoMoko65 2 місяці тому +4

    "Felix, is it summer on Earth? If so, in which hemisphere?"

    • @mrdebris1217
      @mrdebris1217 2 місяці тому +1

      Same thought. Moon summer, earth summer, makes no sense. Little flaw in a great video.

    • @jnawk83
      @jnawk83 2 місяці тому

      Arrogant northern hemisphere residents.

  • @ridethetalk
    @ridethetalk 2 місяці тому

    The satelites are dispensed in "landscape" mode - if they were dispensed in "portrait" mode the hole in the side of starship's side would be considerably smaller, improving structural integrity...

  • @timothygarrison7909
    @timothygarrison7909 2 місяці тому +3

    NASA and Boeing. What a match.

  • @radiationman72
    @radiationman72 Місяць тому

    Hi, can the starlink sats come out short ways instead of long ways?

  • @johnwiles4391
    @johnwiles4391 2 місяці тому +4

    I'd bet that a Raptor engine, even at minimum thrust, would impart too much force on the ISS structure and cause it to buckle.

  • @williamlukas2545
    @williamlukas2545 2 місяці тому +2

    The flap heat shield pause and nervous smile killed me 😅😂😂😂

    • @oldnick4707
      @oldnick4707 2 місяці тому

      Yeah! Lol! His look there is priceless. 😂

  • @kensmith8832
    @kensmith8832 2 місяці тому +4

    "The Lunar Summer occurs at the same time as Earth Summer", that depends on where you live! This is a funny typo.

  • @lanav9679
    @lanav9679 2 місяці тому +1

    Can Crusher is so Cool Dude . Love It !

  • @beverlyhillscop90210
    @beverlyhillscop90210 2 місяці тому +20

    Someone got a fresh haircut. Looking sharp.

    • @Whataboutit
      @Whataboutit  2 місяці тому +2

      It's hot here in FL!

    • @randomhobbies5796
      @randomhobbies5796 2 місяці тому +1

      Shave it all..never look back

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому

      ​@@randomhobbies5796not like it grows back in 3 months

  • @dabugattas
    @dabugattas 2 місяці тому

    Hi! I’ve been following for a while, appreciate your journey! Why does starship has so many issues with reentry but Falcon is chilling? Is it different speeds or different altitudes? Sorry for the ignorant question :)

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 2 місяці тому

      The two have almost nothing in common. With Falcon, it's only the booster returning, and the booster doesn't go to orbit... the upper stage does go to orbit (and beyond), but that's not recovered.
      When we're talking about Starship re-entry, we're talking about the upper stage which *is* recovered, and that's returning from *much* higher speeds than the booster, and so has to get rid of a *lot* more kinetic energy to land. And getting rid of kinetic energy basically means turning it into heat energy by smashing through the thin upper atmosphere until you either slow down or explode.

  • @ludwigjasonr
    @ludwigjasonr 2 місяці тому +5

    Morning

  • @noahgeerdink5144
    @noahgeerdink5144 2 місяці тому +1

    Can you organize a petition for congress to extend the budget for the clips mission?

  • @GeorgeWMays
    @GeorgeWMays 2 місяці тому +4

    If NASA wants to send a bunch of dead weight to the Moon, let me suggest a gaggle of Secret Service Staffers. Just a thought....

  • @amethyst8399
    @amethyst8399 2 місяці тому

    Hey what’s going on with the live streams. I’m just curious because you guys keep saying they’ll be daily and not streaming for multiple days after

  • @A24284
    @A24284 2 місяці тому +4

    18:12 Earth's summer?

    • @cab63868386
      @cab63868386 2 місяці тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣Which summer it has 2?

    • @johnd.7792
      @johnd.7792 2 місяці тому

      ​@cab63868386 considering the majority of the world lives in the northern hemisphere...

  • @dgstandridge
    @dgstandridge 2 місяці тому

    Just a question, would spaceX consider trying to slow down the Starship re-entry by flipping the ship so that engines are forward and fire them to slow down? Instead of just doing what has always been done, try something different.
    Not slowing it all the way down, mind you, just enough to save wear on the tiles

  • @bigk5203
    @bigk5203 2 місяці тому +11

    You know the "Channel Metrics" thing every. single. video. is getting a bit tiresome. Can't you leave that out once in a while?

    • @mikejohnson1839
      @mikejohnson1839 2 місяці тому +1

      @@bigk5203 agreed. Much needed break plz

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому

      Gotta promote the story.

  • @Spearhead45
    @Spearhead45 2 місяці тому

    SpaceX Makes me super excited to be alive in a world filled with crazed people

  • @Ayelmar
    @Ayelmar 2 місяці тому +3

    It's vital to consider the pros and cons of every issue...
    So, what's the opposite of PROgress?
    CONgress!

    • @cafhead
      @cafhead 2 місяці тому

      I hope spacex fails

    • @snorman1911
      @snorman1911 2 місяці тому

      ​@cafhead why?

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому

      ​@@snorman1911probably to own the libs?

  • @randylogan3801
    @randylogan3801 2 місяці тому +2

    SpaceX should put a large count down clock like old NASA one

  • @philippostiglione2011
    @philippostiglione2011 2 місяці тому +10

    NASA always makes short sighted decisions

    • @jackbarnhill9354
      @jackbarnhill9354 2 місяці тому +3

      That’s the result of poor funding.

    • @timambridge2545
      @timambridge2545 2 місяці тому

      More like congress forces NASA into accepting politically based decisions.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 місяці тому +1

      Says a fool.

    • @filonin2
      @filonin2 2 місяці тому +2

      Like what? The ISS has a finite lifetime due to thermal cycling. NASA had nothing to do with the rover mission being cancelled. They were limited by Congress and are required to still make the launch. If you'd have listened to the video, Felix explained that.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, under funding government agencies, purposeful or not, leads to failure.

  • @dariogalluzzi
    @dariogalluzzi 2 місяці тому

    You are pulling ours legs with the title!

  • @sadboidex6106
    @sadboidex6106 2 місяці тому +2

    its so sad to see the ISS be deorbited. i always imagined a future where space travel was normalized and the ISS being preserved as a space station museum that future space travelers could visit and remember where we came from

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 2 місяці тому

      If Axiom manages to build their station, initally adding modules to the ISS and then going their own seperate way, then, in a way, a part of the ISS will live on.

  • @plainText384
    @plainText384 2 місяці тому

    One of the main reason why Starship wasn't chosen to deorbit the ISS is probably because it may not be able to throttle low enough. The ISS deorbit vehicle will apparently fire between 22 and 26 draco engines at the same time, which will give it a thrust of around 9-10kN. A single raptor engine has over 2MN of thrust and simply can't throttle down anywhere close to 10kN. This is also why they didn't use SuperDraco engines or a modified Falcon9 upper stage.
    The other reason for not using Starship is that it simply doesn't have a proven track record of reliability and that it uses cryogenic propellants, which are more difficult to use on this type of long duration mission.

  • @rickmerring2148
    @rickmerring2148 2 місяці тому +1

    Seriously well done!

  • @Dadeets
    @Dadeets 2 місяці тому

    I can’t wait. It’s gonna be 100% all the way ..!

  • @jimplante8269
    @jimplante8269 2 місяці тому

    Terraforming planets to make them livable for Earth life is the greatest statement humanity can make to the cosmos ..
    Right now

  • @carabs3823
    @carabs3823 2 місяці тому

    Great Video as usual.
    Is there anything different with the new tower to deal with the flames below the tower? Flame trench? Water again? I don't think I have heard what this will be.

  • @geraldhuot6302
    @geraldhuot6302 2 місяці тому +1

    Yes. Felix that does make sense. Always very educational! Love your videos!

  • @colinbarnard6512
    @colinbarnard6512 2 місяці тому +1

    ISS is a UNESCO World Heritage Site just waiting for that designation. One could crowd-source the price of reboosts, if needed, OR, just put it in an orbit that doesn't decay to the degree to which the ISS, at its current altitude, flies. You could boost it to a lunar distant retrograde orbit to save money that would have been spent on Gateway. Better yet, add the Gateway modules onto ISS after Axiom Station has been birthed and cut loose.
    The ISS is a symbol of international co-operation, performed at a higher level than any other international endeavour occurring in the ecosphere. ISS deserves to be turned into an orbital monument, made more valuable, and necessary, the more the international situation within the Giasphere does. It cannot die. We can't let it die.

    • @MikeOnTheCamino
      @MikeOnTheCamino 2 місяці тому +1

      It's alway been planned for re-entry burn. The emotional ties you have to it are valid, just not economical or safe.

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 2 місяці тому

      Of course we can let it die. You seem to believe that if you just leave it in a higher orbit, it will stay there in a usable state forever - that hourly heating/cooling cycles and metal fatigue aren't a problem that will eventually see it falling apart in an unwelcome cloud of space-debris.

  • @XarraXonna
    @XarraXonna 2 місяці тому

    Felix, be happy they are returnjng viewers. If they haven't joined by now,.asking isn't going to change their minds.

  • @richardzeitz54
    @richardzeitz54 2 місяці тому

    This is going to be a fun test flight. You know SpaceX has left some areas to burn through, some areas to test the ablative material, and probably some hijinks to do with the flaps and flap-hinges. SpaceX is always gathering more data for the next iteration so no way is flight 5 going to be boring, it's going to be gathering information and I bet something funky happens. Other news outlets will probably call the flight a failure, just like they called the last 4. Just look at all the progress SpaceX's Starship is making! It's exciting!

  • @KaroKuje
    @KaroKuje 2 місяці тому

    your creative approach to problems is truly inspiring!

  • @surferdude4487
    @surferdude4487 2 місяці тому

    The Viper cancellation is like running a 1500 meter steeple-chase and falling flat on your face a meter before the finish line. Ridiculous!
    I'm still waiting for the uproar when SLS is cancelled.

  • @pauletxeberri8736
    @pauletxeberri8736 2 місяці тому +1

    I think they should keep the ISS in space as a museum for future space tourism. Why not just park it somewhere high up so that future generations can look back on a piece of space history, when nations could set aside their differences for a common goal?

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 2 місяці тому

      If they went up in altitude the ISS would become essentially unmaintainable, as current gen spacecraft like Cygnus, Dragon, etc. couldn't reach it. As you go up and aerodynamic drag decreases, space debris also increases. So if we raised the ISS higher it would be struck by debris fairly fast, especially as without resupply it would loose the ability to maneuver out of the way. So instead of a museum we would eventually have a heap of junk with holes like swiss cheese and a bunch of extra debris making space unsafe.

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger 2 місяці тому

      @@plainText384 isnt it weird as space travel progresses they can go less and less deep into space. moon 50 years ago? no problem. Moon today? cant do it. hmmm. Progress.

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 2 місяці тому

      @DieselRamcharger Orion + SLS can go to orbit around the moon and will take people there in a year. The Chinese are also developing the long march 10 rocket and the Mengzhou capsule with similar capabilities, and are aiming to fly humans to the moon around 2029.
      It's not so much that we can't do it as that we chose not to do it for the last 50 years. Rockets like SLS and Saturn V have very limited use outside of flying humans to the moon, while rockets like Soyuz, Falcon 9, or Atlas V are workhorses that are the right size to launch many other commercial and government payloads as well.

  • @joedoe6444
    @joedoe6444 2 місяці тому

    watching this video Felix reminded me of someone, The Emperor Ming the Merciless from flash Gordon. i think we may have another "Luke I'm your father" moment coming up... lol

  • @Mamoocha
    @Mamoocha 2 місяці тому +1

    Tower B should be named t-rex because of short arms

    • @MikeOnTheCamino
      @MikeOnTheCamino 2 місяці тому +1

      That's great. Then if the catch fails you get tyrannosaurus-wrecks!

    • @Mamoocha
      @Mamoocha 2 місяці тому

      @@MikeOnTheCamino haha, thats hilarious

  • @Maelthras
    @Maelthras 2 місяці тому

    When they realize they are shoving the widest part of starlink out through the pez is when they turn it sideways where it's much narrower and doesn't need so much reinforcement on the ship.

    • @lotuselansteve
      @lotuselansteve 2 місяці тому

      How will you store the satellites?

    • @Maelthras
      @Maelthras 2 місяці тому

      @@lotuselansteve same way just dispense them in the narrow end.

  • @beevo412
    @beevo412 2 місяці тому

    ummm (around 18:00) same time as "earth's summer"? down here in Australia we get summer during your winter so... please clarify

  • @jamesmelandry3595
    @jamesmelandry3595 2 місяці тому

    Yes the new layer under the new tiles is going to be the answer to the tiles falling off with all the vibrations and keeping them in place will allow the Starship to reenter without burning up, it does remain to be scene if it can be reused without time consuming repairs, I missed you Fielex, your enthusiasm is sorely missed when you are not there. Are you going down to Texas for launch 5?

  • @robertgeorge3037
    @robertgeorge3037 2 місяці тому

    Perhaps, if they have to send up a block of concrete, the least they can do is make it with a hollow space inside and a removable lid that could be used as the cornerstone for when we eventually start building a moonbase up there. Id say it could be engraved with 2028 but the way its all going, it might be 2058 or even 2128 before we start on any building on the Moon.

  • @kusumayogi7956
    @kusumayogi7956 2 місяці тому +1

    I think space x must create tanker ship with twice payload and more engine also fuel.
    For reducing many times refueling on orbit
    Because 15x refueling for single starship is really bad and not efficient. If elon want 100 starship flight every year, he need 1500x refueling. That is insane!

  • @billvinson7859
    @billvinson7859 2 місяці тому

    This looks like the Fireball XL5. ❤

  • @kx4532
    @kx4532 2 місяці тому

    Waiting for a successful launch

  • @PiDsPagePrototypes
    @PiDsPagePrototypes 2 місяці тому

    Dragon PushStage?? F9 and second stage to GEO speed, the PushStage and how fast would you like to get that Dragon mass Probe to the outer planets moving??

  • @Aerogamer158
    @Aerogamer158 2 місяці тому +2

    It’s true, once you’re 30 everything starts falling apart! 😂

  • @Emil-se2er
    @Emil-se2er 2 місяці тому

    Felix, Tower 2 most likely is being built as a catch and not as a launch tower. This is why there is not a quick disconnect around. I bet that that IFT5 will not attempt a booster catch if Tower 2 is not fully built, tested, and operational. Tower 1 must be protected.

    • @Bora_H
      @Bora_H 2 місяці тому

      Or maybe - Allow tower 1 to take the risk - Tower 2 is the future. Tower 1 may get replaced either way - or maybe just the launch mount.

    • @greghadaller
      @greghadaller 2 місяці тому

      In interview after Launch 4, Musk said he was not worried about the tower during landing because they have spare parts...

  • @spaceluxresurrection
    @spaceluxresurrection 2 місяці тому

    I have in my project to delete spaceengine bases to launch them. Thanks for your progression, space X and Virgin Galactic gave me more hope than copies from the past!

  • @derekhibdon4084
    @derekhibdon4084 2 місяці тому

    I've asked this once before but don't know if you replied... but, why not use some heat shielding on the OLIT to protect it better than just paint alone? Wouldn't this promote the notion of the faster reusability factor?

    • @MikeOnTheCamino
      @MikeOnTheCamino 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree however they have some big brains over at SpaceX and I'm sure not only have they thought of that, they have come up with many reasons why it's not the best approach. I mean a quickly replaceable ablative shield seems a great idea. Maybe during quick disconnect they are afraid it would jam? Like I said I'm sure their big brains have thought of many other issues I have not even contemplated.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 місяці тому +2

      Heating is not the biggest issue, it's the intense pressure.

  • @paulbreitbard2569
    @paulbreitbard2569 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m sure this is a rookie question, why not modify stage one to bring down the space station you’re already disposing of it and it’s got plenty of power?

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 місяці тому

      Stage one can't make it to orbit.

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 2 місяці тому

      You don't want "plenty of power". You want something that will push the space station - not something that will propel itself *through* the space station. That's why they're using nothing more than a capsule with some extra manoeuvring thrusters... they do want more thrust than a vanilla Dragon can supply, but not so much that the station can't take the force.

  • @utubenada
    @utubenada 2 місяці тому +1

    I would like to find out more about the equipment that is used to move the large items (tower parts, starship, booster, etc). Wanting to know the whole lifecycle for launching this monster.

    • @Lu.capuchino
      @Lu.capuchino 2 місяці тому

      they are moved on SPMTs (Self Propelled Modular Transport)

  • @ThatOpalGuy
    @ThatOpalGuy 2 місяці тому

    Im dubious about spacex getting this design finished in time.

  • @yves3560
    @yves3560 2 місяці тому

    Damn that thing is huge...

  • @alexandreblais8756
    @alexandreblais8756 2 місяці тому

    imagine if the heat shields were a sort of heat generator. Make enough power to sustain the first humans on Mars for a while

  • @kevinshaub839
    @kevinshaub839 2 місяці тому

    This project will literally create a ring around the earth. Unlike Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus, where the gravitational pull of the said planets anttra asteroids, The Ring around earth is man-made.

  • @arturfraniuk1128
    @arturfraniuk1128 2 місяці тому

    Hey Felix. Why spacex want deploys starlink satellite said ways? The dispenser door would be half the size. They just would have to deployed them one at the time.

  • @donscheid97
    @donscheid97 2 місяці тому

    Can crusher is for doing what can crushers do, crush them for recycling... oh, wait, they're reusing, not recycling, never mind.

  • @jdlessl
    @jdlessl 2 місяці тому

    I have a question. Why aren't the towers assembled the same way that normal crane towers are? Start with the top section, hoist it up a few feet, slide one section underneath and connect them, then hoist the assembly up some more and repeat.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 місяці тому

      Think it through. That one should be obvious.

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 2 місяці тому

      Normal crane towers *aren't* assembled that way. Some do have that ability of self-raising - lifting themselves up to insert segments - but that's mostly the biggest ones which can't be reached from the ground. Mostly, they're assembled by stacking things from the ground up, same as the SpaceX launch towers...

  • @detlefschnitzelheimer
    @detlefschnitzelheimer 2 місяці тому

    Did I get that right? NASA is launching a concrete brick instead of a fully built rover? This is completely mad.

  • @THEScottCampbell
    @THEScottCampbell 2 місяці тому

    Is that Thunderbird One?

  • @gregorychaney7604
    @gregorychaney7604 2 місяці тому

    Ship 30 will make a soft landing in the ocean.
    Cheers from Alaska

  • @simongeard4824
    @simongeard4824 2 місяці тому

    Starship would never have even been in consideration for the ISS de-orbit... it's just not a sensible tool for the job. It was always going to be something custom-built for a single mission, based on Dragon and a bunch of Draco thrusters. Similarly, the most likely non-SpaceX alternative would have been something based on Cygnus with extra fuel and thrusters...