my Ace Pro just arrived, and I gotta say I'm really impressed with the camera. It's way better than the GoPro 11 I used to have; the daytime quality is pretty much the same, but the night image quality is just so much better, now I can finally go out for the whole day with just one camera in hand
The big selling point not being addressed is how much more user friendly ace pro is for average content creators that dont do shit like color grading lol. They have the easiest software to edit over the other 2. The pause record is huge too.
The Polaroid problem is common to all computer screens. Airline pilots cannot use Polaroid sun glasses to see their flat panel instruments. The classic Ray-ban Aviator preferred by pilots is now a no go. In order to prevent glare, sunglasses must be vertically polarized. Mother nature determines this. Most flat panels are horizontally polarized in the exterior filter, making sunglasses incompatible. I don't know if this was a conscious choice or ignorance, but it is inconvenient.
Refreshing to hear a different issue! You are correct about the polarized issue. My workaround was sort of expensive, but the remote watch accessary is very viewable with polarized lens, and it is much more handy if placed on the handlbar or on my wrist. I am not a 10 bit or log user but I am sure that it is important for many people. In saying this, I am very pleased with the quality of video that comes from this camera. I made a couple of adjustments in sharpness and EV and IMO the quality surpasses what comes from my GoPro. Not to mention how much easier it is to use the 360 software after capturing great images.
I am using ace pro for 3 weeks and i am very happy with it. I live in Antalya and i want to use a camera in sea, in pool and in rainy day. So action cam is very food option. But most action cams had overexposure problems in sunny days. Antalya is mostly very sunny in a year. Overexposure and backlight shadow problem is big. Ace pro solved this problem. I don't have so much time to edit 10 bit log to correct overexposure problems. Pocket 3 could be better than ace pro but it cannot be used in water and at rainy day. I use it inkee falcon plus gimbal and they are good combo.
You can't see the screen with sunglasses on? Who the hell made that design decision? That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Total deal breaker.
I just bought this camera for low light and I am impressed. The pocket 3 is better for low light but it’s not actually a camera that fits in my pocket because you need to use the protective case for the gimbal. I would call this camera an action light vlogger camera. Love your videos.
Well I like how Insta360 innovated the industry with this Ace Pro. Played around my Ace Pro for a whole week and I enjoy the hand gestures with the flip-up screen. The clarity zoom is awesome. Btw the 8K sensor brought so many more great things than I think.
@@Cameraflyer- I think the fact is DJI only uses the quad pixel pinning mode of the sensor (limited to 4K) while Insta360 uses quad pixel pinning mode for 4K video but also allows 1 pixel in 1 to achieve 8K. So that's the difference.
I did a skydive with polarized sunglasses and learned that my altimeter has a polarized screen very quickly after exit when I couldn’t see my altitude.
I have all of the action cameras and so far the ace pro has been great snowboarding for me. No issues with my goggles. Only thing I wish is that even with the flip screen that the front screen still showed the image. When snowboarding I don’t pop up the flip screen so it stays durable. So far that’s not caused any framing issues for me but it would still be a nice addition to have both.
I kept the back screen film that came with the camera on for as long as I could, and as long as the film was on, I could see the screen with my polarized sunglasses. Noticed some really annoying software bugs as well, like every third or fourth recording won't apply my manual white balance settings, or the video will be slightly darker, etc. I've also had a few videos stop recording after a few seconds, which is super frustrating.
In my honest opinion, i have mixed feelings about my Ace Pro vs. my Gopro Hero 10. For example, i like that if i turn Off the front and rear displays, indicator lights for both the front and rear and finally the A.I. Highlights Assistance Off i can record my videos for electric scooter riding with the GPS Preview Remote added and get 55 minutes of record time without the camera overheating vs my gopro hero 10, i get about 17 minutes in the same resolution and frame rate. However i really dislike that for some reason not everything is in focus and when it comes to the sharpness, its either too mushy on medium sharpness or too sharp and granulated on High sharpness, i wish there was a in between medium and high sharpness option. I use my Ace pro with a Chest mount for electric scooter riding content so the GPS preview remote is a BIG plus and the main reason i bought the Ace pro. The hero 10 has GPS built in and like that idea too but i cant go above 4k30fps for action scenes which makes the video quality a bit shakey if its not at 60fps. But thats my honest take as a buyer. Would i get another Ace Pro? Yes, yes i would and probably would get a second preview remote with it since you cant see your preview on the remote when you have more than 1 Ace pro camera linked with it. It destroys the purposes of the preview remote if you can't see the preview just because you linked a second ace pro. 😅
I received the camera last week and the image quality is much better than my action 4 and 3. Especially in detail. I think the massive FOV of the DJI plays agains image quality when you use normal FOVs, since the crop reduces quality and makes it be sub-4K.
i just effed up my riding footage bc w sungoggles and overexposed 40 minutes unknowingly....its in my shorts vids...the cod soldier ai one... outside of that i like it, though
wait until water can easily enter the camera through microphone holes or sd card/usbport.. mine got water damage already, just splash of sea water not put em down to the water, water gets inside the camera 😅😅😅
I've returned mine, because GoPro creates better picture and there are a lot of issues with stabilization in low light. I agree, this flip up screen makes no sense. If I needed good camera for low light, static filming, I would buy regular camera, not action. My thoughts: ua-cam.com/video/WRQviGGyfMQ/v-deo.htmlsi=aCHPZklIvNYAlXPp
My biggest issue with it? it is an action cam and you cannot switch to another lens protection, when you scratched the mounted one. thats a huge fail imho. DJI > Insta.
That's what polarizing does. If you rotate a second pair of polarized glasses 90° in front of each other it completely blocks the light. Rotating the insta360 90° it allows the light through. There are a couple of solutions for the problem. On is to NOT wear polarized glasses and I'll do a video on the other method. It's easier to explain in a video to get the details correct.
I've definitely had some noise in Pure Video. I also had, during blue hour, some blue-to-green flickering in the sky as the camera was trying to figure out (I guess) which white balance to go with. It lasted about ten minutes until it got darker. Dark areas in PureVideo stay black until there's a little light then the whole dark area pops to a little greenish noise. Yuck.
I am really into buying this camera. I've had the DJI Osmo Action (gen1) and it's time to upgrade. I love the Garmin integration. I have seen the screen issue with polarized glasses with screen protectors. Really annoying. How do you get a normal camera mount screw on this? Do you have to use the magnetic adapter and then a gopro like adapter that has a screw? This is kinda weird too.
GoPro still haunts me with their stupid mounts. It's an action cam so I'm assuming that's why they went with that type of mount. There are options available.
Thanks for the video. I find it interesting that you mention the polarization issue as most devices, including DJI controllers for drones have the same issue. I had to find different glasses for my DJI controller. Regarding the HDR, it makes more difference in a cloudier environment like where I live on the Great Lakes, than in the bright desert sun you have. Agreed about the log profile: I hope they perhaps can add it within an update soon. Always appreciate your great channel. All the best, Bob
I hardly think these are "big" problems, I think you should do 3 innovative features that kill it's competition and then 3 "big" problems. The positives of this camera heavily outweigh these 'problems'. Polarized sunglasses, this is a personal preference, I tested mine with 6 pairs of sunglasses and I can see the screen just fine, counter that with a screen that you can actually see from 2 feet away unlike the tiny little front displays of the other cameras and why I don't even bother with my DJI's front display, again, this is personal preference, not a big problem. D Log 10 - bit, not really a factor as the Ace Pro has 13 Lut's settings you can use to come close to it's competitors results. I actually prefer Ace's colors tbh and if I want to color grade I can still do it even in 8 bit which btw is a misnomer that some are saying you can't color grade 8 bit. 10 bit gives more color, dynamic range and reduces banding, which the Ace Pro has tackled very well with the 5nm cpu, I've actually done some testing comparing especially the banding issue which really sets 8 bit to 10 bit difference in the majority of users. The dynamic range coming out of the camera is best I've seen without having to do post edit and there's hardly if any banding in this camera. If you're a professional cinematographer, yes, this would be beneficial but search around, we are seeing FX artists and cinematographers using the hardware advantage of this camera in their work, that tells you a lot. As for the 'softness' in the zoom, I'm not seeing this but will do some testing on it. Again, this camera is not for everyone BUT it captures the majority of the audience. Don't take my word for it, there's been an avg of 3-4 reviews/samples coming out everyday for this camera, real people who bought the camera and using it in a real world environment, there's really not a lot of negatives if any.
@@robwright49 I think you got a defective camera, I see no banding what so ever, I've put hundreds of footage through this thing and I've even compared my Ace Pro to my DJI A4 on sky footage on a sunny day shooting at the sun, side by side against a 10 bit camera, on the Ace Pro, you will notice a slight banding when you move the angle from sky to sun but then the processor debands it in a split second, I actually even slowed the footage down to watch it happen.
@@Cameraflyer- Thanks. I agree horizon level missing is not trivial. But, no one should shoot in 1080 anymore. :) I have Apple devices - Mac minis and MacBook Pro's, and none have trouble with the clips from the camera - either playing or editing. So here I do not understand what you are experiencing. The clips use standard codecs (H265 or H264).
@@markr041 my job requires me to shoot in 1080p. I have no control over it. I can transfer my GoPro files to my iPhone photo roll with a usb card reader. I can’t do that with the Ace Pro.
@@Cameraflyer- Seems like these options don't suit your usage preference. Not really problems. Guess you will have to look for another action cam that meets your requirements. 1080P? Seriously? :)
my Ace Pro just arrived, and I gotta say I'm really impressed with the camera. It's way better than the GoPro 11 I used to have; the daytime quality is pretty much the same, but the night image quality is just so much better, now I can finally go out for the whole day with just one camera in hand
100% agree
Daytime quality is nowhere near the same.
The big selling point not being addressed is how much more user friendly ace pro is for average content creators that dont do shit like color grading lol. They have the easiest software to edit over the other 2. The pause record is huge too.
@@craigshandworld GoPro is way easier to edit. They don’t force Apple users to go through the stupid app.
@@Cameraflyer- do you have an ace pro? Literally every non bis comparison says otherwise on editing.
The Polaroid problem is common to all computer screens. Airline pilots cannot use Polaroid sun glasses to see their flat panel instruments. The classic Ray-ban Aviator preferred by pilots is now a no go. In order to prevent glare, sunglasses must be vertically polarized. Mother nature determines this. Most flat panels are horizontally polarized in the exterior filter, making sunglasses incompatible. I don't know if this was a conscious choice or ignorance, but it is inconvenient.
Stop faking video color. Better to be natural cus that's real
Refreshing to hear a different issue! You are correct about the polarized issue. My workaround was sort of expensive, but the remote watch accessary is very viewable with polarized lens, and it is much more handy if placed on the handlbar or on my wrist. I am not a 10 bit or log user but I am sure that it is important for many people. In saying this, I am very pleased with the quality of video that comes from this camera. I made a couple of adjustments in sharpness and EV and IMO the quality surpasses what comes from my GoPro. Not to mention how much easier it is to use the 360 software after capturing great images.
the video says that the footages are bit mushier, is it true. can you check and tell me?
it will be huge help. im planning to buy
I am using ace pro for 3 weeks and i am very happy with it. I live in Antalya and i want to use a camera in sea, in pool and in rainy day. So action cam is very food option. But most action cams had overexposure problems in sunny days. Antalya is mostly very sunny in a year. Overexposure and backlight shadow problem is big. Ace pro solved this problem. I don't have so much time to edit 10 bit log to correct overexposure problems. Pocket 3 could be better than ace pro but it cannot be used in water and at rainy day. I use it inkee falcon plus gimbal and they are good combo.
You can't see the screen with sunglasses on? Who the hell made that design decision? That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Total deal breaker.
I just bought this camera for low light and I am impressed. The pocket 3 is better for low light but it’s not actually a camera that fits in my pocket because you need to use the protective case for the gimbal. I would call this camera an action light vlogger camera. Love your videos.
The low light is great with this camera.
@@CreatorFilmSchoolthat’s the only thing that’s great with this camera.
Love this camera with the pocket 3 & x3...
the video says that the footages are bit mushier, is it true. can you check and tell me?
it will be huge help. im planning to buy
@@ankurroy6081it’s amazing footage especially low light. My channel recent videos show what it can do
sound also will be cut off if u use certain mode and zoom in features, try counting and zoom in and out on different modes
Imho none of those are real issues.
Ok
@@CreatorFilmSchool i mean, if those are the biggest problems of this camera,then its pretty amazing. Still seems like better option than gopro..
Well I like how Insta360 innovated the industry with this Ace Pro. Played around my Ace Pro for a whole week and I enjoy the hand gestures with the flip-up screen. The clarity zoom is awesome. Btw the 8K sensor brought so many more great things than I think.
It's not an 8K sensor. It's the same sensor in the DJI Action 4.
@@Cameraflyer-Same 48MP sensor but they use it in different ways. Insta360 unlock the full sensor to get 8K resolutions.
@@travel4food4life There's no such thing as unlocking a sensor.
@@Cameraflyer- I think the fact is DJI only uses the quad pixel pinning mode of the sensor (limited to 4K) while Insta360 uses quad pixel pinning mode for 4K video but also allows 1 pixel in 1 to achieve 8K. So that's the difference.
@@travel4food4life Insta360 uses pixel bending to achieve e fake 8K.
I did a skydive with polarized sunglasses and learned that my altimeter has a polarized screen very quickly after exit when I couldn’t see my altitude.
How does this not have log? Even the old One X2 had log (though still, no 10 bit).
The new PureVideo feature looks like it could really help capturing at night and low light！
That's what sold me, and it's the only thing making me keep this camera right now.
I have all of the action cameras and so far the ace pro has been great snowboarding for me.
No issues with my goggles.
Only thing I wish is that even with the flip screen that the front screen still showed the image. When snowboarding I don’t pop up the flip screen so it stays durable.
So far that’s not caused any framing issues for me but it would still be a nice addition to have both.
👍 looks forward to test it out on some snowboarding this year
Agree that the softness could be improved
👍
Voice and video don’t sync if you download video from
Sd card direct to computer. I found that I had to use their software to process the video first
I kept the back screen film that came with the camera on for as long as I could, and as long as the film was on, I could see the screen with my polarized sunglasses.
Noticed some really annoying software bugs as well, like every third or fourth recording won't apply my manual white balance settings, or the video will be slightly darker, etc. I've also had a few videos stop recording after a few seconds, which is super frustrating.
ace pro ist BEST action camera I ever used (have gopro and dji too),
great HDR, low light, stabilization...
Image looks amazing IMO.
I have audio sync issue with most of video. I use 4k 60fps (Motovlog), there is always 1-2sec delay in my audio. Any tips. (Firmware is updated)
In my honest opinion, i have mixed feelings about my Ace Pro vs. my Gopro Hero 10. For example, i like that if i turn Off the front and rear displays, indicator lights for both the front and rear and finally the A.I. Highlights Assistance Off i can record my videos for electric scooter riding with the GPS Preview Remote added and get 55 minutes of record time without the camera overheating vs my gopro hero 10, i get about 17 minutes in the same resolution and frame rate. However i really dislike that for some reason not everything is in focus and when it comes to the sharpness, its either too mushy on medium sharpness or too sharp and granulated on High sharpness, i wish there was a in between medium and high sharpness option. I use my Ace pro with a Chest mount for electric scooter riding content so the GPS preview remote is a BIG plus and the main reason i bought the Ace pro. The hero 10 has GPS built in and like that idea too but i cant go above 4k30fps for action scenes which makes the video quality a bit shakey if its not at 60fps. But thats my honest take as a buyer. Would i get another Ace Pro? Yes, yes i would and probably would get a second preview remote with it since you cant see your preview on the remote when you have more than 1 Ace pro camera linked with it. It destroys the purposes of the preview remote if you can't see the preview just because you linked a second ace pro. 😅
the video says that the footages are bit mushier, is it true. can you check and tell me?
it will be huge help. im planning to buy
I'm trying to get the insta 360 ace pro
I received the camera last week and the image quality is much better than my action 4 and 3. Especially in detail. I think the massive FOV of the DJI plays agains image quality when you use normal FOVs, since the crop reduces quality and makes it be sub-4K.
which 4k is better in daytime? gopro , dji or ace pro's?
Yes this is a point and shout camera.......very good in all automatic settings......fur run and go people
Point and scream your f'ing head off! Works well.
i just effed up my riding footage bc w sungoggles and overexposed 40 minutes unknowingly....its in my shorts vids...the cod soldier ai one... outside of that i like it, though
Can’t use polarized with GoPro either lol
wait until water can easily enter the camera through microphone holes or sd card/usbport.. mine got water damage already, just splash of sea water not put em down to the water, water gets inside the camera 😅😅😅
The Polaroid glasses problem is hardly a problem unique to this camera. You have the same problem with an iPhone.
How do you remove the battery cover for this insta360 ace pro?
I've returned mine, because GoPro creates better picture and there are a lot of issues with stabilization in low light. I agree, this flip up screen makes no sense. If I needed good camera for low light, static filming, I would buy regular camera, not action. My thoughts: ua-cam.com/video/WRQviGGyfMQ/v-deo.htmlsi=aCHPZklIvNYAlXPp
My biggest issue with it? it is an action cam and you cannot switch to another lens protection, when you scratched the mounted one. thats a huge fail imho. DJI > Insta.
Carefull with the flexible when you flip. 😂 They not being covered!
Are these even issue ? I have Ace Pro and loving it......... colors dont need Color Grading at all.
the video says that the footages are bit mushier, is it true. can you check and tell me?
it will be huge help. im planning to buy
@@ankurroy6081 There are many samples on UA-cam to check. As far as I am concerned I am fully satisfied. But you should watch and decide yourself.
I gotta say the ACE PRO is amazing compared to my go pro 12 and I can see the screen with my polarized glasses
I don't get it: shooting horizontally you can't see the screen but vertically no problem?
That's what polarizing does. If you rotate a second pair of polarized glasses 90° in front of each other it completely blocks the light. Rotating the insta360 90° it allows the light through.
There are a couple of solutions for the problem. On is to NOT wear polarized glasses and I'll do a video on the other method. It's easier to explain in a video to get the details correct.
Insta360 is the heaviest of all action cameras. It is good for vacation vlogging, but not for real action.
i found many noise in Pure Video mode when i took in low night, is it normal?
I've definitely had some noise in Pure Video. I also had, during blue hour, some blue-to-green flickering in the sky as the camera was trying to figure out (I guess) which white balance to go with. It lasted about ten minutes until it got darker.
Dark areas in PureVideo stay black until there's a little light then the whole dark area pops to a little greenish noise. Yuck.
I am really into buying this camera. I've had the DJI Osmo Action (gen1) and it's time to upgrade. I love the Garmin integration. I have seen the screen issue with polarized glasses with screen protectors. Really annoying.
How do you get a normal camera mount screw on this? Do you have to use the magnetic adapter and then a gopro like adapter that has a screw? This is kinda weird too.
GoPro still haunts me with their stupid mounts. It's an action cam so I'm assuming that's why they went with that type of mount. There are options available.
Thanks for the video. I find it interesting that you mention the polarization issue as most devices, including DJI controllers for drones have the same issue. I had to find different glasses for my DJI controller. Regarding the HDR, it makes more difference in a cloudier environment like where I live on the Great Lakes, than in the bright desert sun you have. Agreed about the log profile: I hope they perhaps can add it within an update soon. Always appreciate your great channel.
All the best, Bob
I hardly think these are "big" problems, I think you should do 3 innovative features that kill it's competition and then 3 "big" problems. The positives of this camera heavily outweigh these 'problems'. Polarized sunglasses, this is a personal preference, I tested mine with 6 pairs of sunglasses and I can see the screen just fine, counter that with a screen that you can actually see from 2 feet away unlike the tiny little front displays of the other cameras and why I don't even bother with my DJI's front display, again, this is personal preference, not a big problem. D Log 10 - bit, not really a factor as the Ace Pro has 13 Lut's settings you can use to come close to it's competitors results. I actually prefer Ace's colors tbh and if I want to color grade I can still do it even in 8 bit which btw is a misnomer that some are saying you can't color grade 8 bit. 10 bit gives more color, dynamic range and reduces banding, which the Ace Pro has tackled very well with the 5nm cpu, I've actually done some testing comparing especially the banding issue which really sets 8 bit to 10 bit difference in the majority of users. The dynamic range coming out of the camera is best I've seen without having to do post edit and there's hardly if any banding in this camera. If you're a professional cinematographer, yes, this would be beneficial but search around, we are seeing FX artists and cinematographers using the hardware advantage of this camera in their work, that tells you a lot. As for the 'softness' in the zoom, I'm not seeing this but will do some testing on it. Again, this camera is not for everyone BUT it captures the majority of the audience. Don't take my word for it, there's been an avg of 3-4 reviews/samples coming out everyday for this camera, real people who bought the camera and using it in a real world environment, there's really not a lot of negatives if any.
You can watch my review that shares all the great things about this camera 👍 ua-cam.com/video/z35EGcd5zcg/v-deo.htmlsi=igp3ZolopZG3g89A
@@CreatorFilmSchool Yah I've seen it, seen them all ;)
The banding is so bad on my Ace Pro I can see it in the tiny screen when I'm three feet away.
what are "3 innovative features that kill it's competition"? o.o
@@robwright49 I think you got a defective camera, I see no banding what so ever, I've put hundreds of footage through this thing and I've even compared my Ace Pro to my DJI A4 on sky footage on a sunny day shooting at the sun, side by side against a 10 bit camera, on the Ace Pro, you will notice a slight banding when you move the angle from sky to sun but then the processor debands it in a split second, I actually even slowed the footage down to watch it happen.
Log file is only a problem for colorist, for ppl use to record daily life, its fine.
Should be able to do both at this price point. Have a good automatic option and log for those of us who want to do more with it.
I’ve run into so many problems with the Ace Pro. I’m just praying that the first firmware update will fix most of them.
Which are?
@@markr041 like horizon level not possible in the camera. Many features not available in 1080p. Files aren’t compatible with Apple devices.
@@Cameraflyer- Thanks. I agree horizon level missing is not trivial. But, no one should shoot in 1080 anymore. :) I have Apple devices - Mac minis and MacBook Pro's, and none have trouble with the clips from the camera - either playing or editing. So here I do not understand what you are experiencing. The clips use standard codecs (H265 or H264).
@@markr041 my job requires me to shoot in 1080p. I have no control over it. I can transfer my GoPro files to my iPhone photo roll with a usb card reader. I can’t do that with the Ace Pro.
@@Cameraflyer- Seems like these options don't suit your usage preference. Not really problems. Guess you will have to look for another action cam that meets your requirements. 1080P? Seriously? :)