@chetsenior7253 Well, Jesus and many others before him said: "Thou shalt not kill". And it 100% failed too. Military is a destructive death cult (strict hierarchy, human sacrifices, idol worshipping-kissing flags). At least John was not part of it.
@@loosilu Lazy? Refused to do the work? Do you mean by not going out in the streets and actively protesting against the war as others were doing, rather than laying in bed and conducting a 'bed-in for peace' which even he came to realize was silly? He had that drug charge and was at risk of being deported so he had to be careful. Not sure whether he was on Nixon's 'enemies list.'
@@jamesanthony5681 He described himself as the laziest man in the world. He slept all day and did next to nothing. That's from his own mouth. It was corroborated by multiple people that he basically refused to get off his ass for any reasons.
Beatles and John fan here! When John said he’s saving lives for being in bed IS ridiculous. Sometimes we gotta admit he thought way too much of himself.
Thousands of lives were saved by the peace movement.. people have said they didn't go because of the things Lennon and others said and did. If he hasn't done stunts like go to bed for peace not as many people would have been discussing the issue. As he notes, the Beatles were being followed and photographed and written about every day and he might as well do something like that... It was easier to have the press come to his room than to organise press conferences in a town he didn't live in and he was under even more scrutiny because he had just got married and there isn't much room in a hotel bedroom so the idea of saying we are having a bed in was a way of joking about the fact that they would both be in or in the bed or in the room. Sure it seems a naive kind of stunt but these things are born organically and he didn't necessarily expect it to be discussed several years on. People were dying in the war there and then and history has sided with those who spoke out.
@@Rich-ng3yy I'm sure many beatles fans refused to serve in the war because of what lennon said, but Thousands? Especially when you could be prison-ed for refusing to serve? I'm not so sure about that. Also a beatles fan. Love his accent here as well. Gloria Emerson was also a tough lady, she was diagnosed with parkinsons in her old age and chose to shoot herself and die instead of having to be helpless and a burden. Ironic how both lennon and gloria here died of a gunshot, but in extremely different ways.
Im sure he could have done so much more specially with his power in songs like freda peeple or give peace a chance , it was dangerous to say that and make a whole generation sing a long , but also think that Yoko made him believe he only could do good and inflated his ego making him not analyze his actions and words , ending with false promises , if he had stopped consuming so many hard drugs and left his mommy issues with yoko , he could have had so much political and social power
@@gregh5061 The Beatles were the biggest band in the world, four of the most famous people at that time. I think you're understating (not by your own fault) their significant because of how different the world is now. They had an absolute hold on the world for 7 odd years. Look at the turnout after Lennon's death. It wasn't hundreds. It was thousands, hundreds of thousands from America and Britian alone. Many many more from the rest of the world.
And I really like it when John says “well I’m sorry if you like you’re old moptops dear and you thought I was typical and you liked hard day’s night but I’ve grown up, but you obviously haven’t.”
Gloria Emerson (May 19, 1929 - August 3, 2004) was an American author, journalist and New York Times war correspondent. Emerson received the 1978 National Book Award in Contemporary Thought for Winners and Losers, her book about the Vietnam War. She wrote four books, in addition to articles for Esquire, Harper's, Vogue, Playboy, Saturday Review and Rolling Stone.
Gloria Emerson is one of the most important journalists of her generation, mainly because she's one of the first female journalists to cover wars/conflicts, and insisting being sent to these places, rather than regulated to the "fashion tips" sections of newspapers. She was a trailblazer and game changer for women in Journalism. For those thinking she hasn't brought up any good points to Lennon about his campaign : If a musician told their main audience of 18-24 year olds, you know that demographic that most politicians would love to grab up for a lifetime if they could, that that politician was no good, untrustworthy, or not fulfilling their obligations in office, do you think that musician's fan base would listen? Do you think they'd listen to that musician before they listened to that politician. A musician doesn't have to stop politicians. A musician only has to stop the people voting for them. And you think Artists and Musicians have no power over Politic, or Religion. You're undervaluing the power of Art to influence Society. Gloria Emerson did not underestimate that power at all, she knew its potential to guide youth, opinion, and votes. She was just talking to a "Pop" artist, whose main impetus for writing songs with McCartney, was to get swimming pools. Money. That's why you see Harrison turning the charity event using music, as a working tool for assistance. Because he did it right. He hit all forms of media to push that concert, the live album, the film, and when media changed, that concert was available in all the updated technology. Since 1971, that concert has perpetually funded UNICEF for over 50 years. And the people that say he did it "wrong" are fools. He did it right. If you get chased by the US for taxes, when something clearly says it's a charity, you've become a target. Especially if you're on FBI lists of investigation (which he and Lennon both were). Especially if you're naming the US as the main culprit as to WHY there were so many people dying and refugee in Bangladesh. Because the USA funded the Pakistan army that did that shit to millions of people. And Harrison blatantly said this in advertising / promotion of the concert. She's exasperated with an Artist who is making comical gestures imploring peace and change, but not making any real sacrifice, or enduring any hardship or punishment for doing so. Almost making it "entertainment purposes only." Muhummad Ali protested the Vietnam War or serving in it, and he most definitely got punished for doing so. This is why she asks him "What do YOU know about Protests." Because the kind of protests she's witnessed, that she's been reporting on, she's seen, have people getting beaten to death, or hauled off to prison, or never seen again. People with picket signs getting their heads bashed in by police, or shot at, tear gassed. What does John Lennon know about any of that, sitting in a bed getting room service. Are these things a joke to you is her response to him. There are people sacrificing their lives to make changes so that more lives don't get lost, and you're sitting in bed. This is why she called him a fake. He calls her a snob for being high horse about things. She tells him what you're doing is BENEATH YOU, you're BETTER than this. Where she is, is where HE should be. Not doing Barnum & Bailey circus antics. That's why she's giving Lennon a hard time. Because he's having an easy time being a "commie loving hippy."
This whole attitude seems ridiculous. It makes the suffering of the "giver" more of a focus than what they actually give. Seems like she wants John Lennon to suffer more than she wants him to make any kind of difference.
@@bravetherainbow the point is, that she was a renowned political Journalist with many years of experience in her field and knew full well that john wasnt making any difference and wouldn't make any difference, and she was right.
Ask John Lennon a silly question?... "Are you grown up?", you'll get an equally silly answer from 1 of the gutsiest most ingenious human beings of all time... "Yes I'm 29!", good on ya John!, God bless you. 🙏
it's annoying how people say ''john lennon was angry'' well people made him angry by asking dumb questions and by not listening and sometimes by being outright rude to him or yoko. 🙄
@@Gretny The only thing she lost was her desire to put up with all that nonsense, she was a serious journalist. She at least took the time to do something productive by going to Vietnam instead of lying on a bed.
Yeah a lot of bad people are fearless, that's not admirable. None of the points she brought up made sense, she's essentially berating john for not changing the world with his music, which is like asking an astronaut to go be a tank crewman for a war.
She was one of the first female journalists to cover conflicts/wars. Before her, women were regulated to providing fashion tips in newspapers / periodicals
@@ChristopherGray00 As one of the first female journalists to report on wars/conflicts, she most certainly knows what she's talking about regarding Vietnam. Music can do a lot of things. She's not wrong. Why do you think media corporations made so much money from music, but not the artists. Music is healing. Music connects people. He very well could have changed the world with his music. But if you're going to tell people give peace a chance, but you don't even seek peace within your own family and friends, or former band members, what point can you possibly hope to make that makes any impact.
It's a fascinating interview, I'd love to see the full version if one is available. What strikes me is that both John Lennon and Gloria Emerson wanted the same thing namely peace but disagreed on how best to achieve it. I can see why Gloria Emerson was annoyed with Lennon viewing his campaigns as narcissistic and ineffectual given his enormous celebrity status. However, there is no doubt that Lennon's actions influenced a huge number of people and continue to inspire people today. Gloria Emerson did the hard graft of visiting Vietnam, reporting from the frontline and exposing the horror of war from the victims' perspective for that she should be admired. Interestingly, Emerson believed that if Lennon had gone to Vietnam and visited the troops with his message of peace he could have stopped the war.
This sums it up beautifully. The Lennons certainly did some good in their efforts to advertise peace. But I think Emerson by this point had seen so much suffering in Vietnam and had seen so many risk their bodies and livelihoods to oppose the war in the US that she could not put aside her disdain for PR efforts. Had she simply said to the Lennons, here is something else you can do if you really want to see the war end and put it to them quite seriously, who knows how history might have differed.
I think Gloria Emerson had an agenda. Anyone who is against war would never attack with such venom someone who is just advertising for peace. What does she care? To interview Lennon just to call him out as a phony is very contradicting for some women who claims to be pro peace.
@@joaquindelarosa1215 She did have an agenda of ending the war. A reading of her work and her book about the era would show that. But she is condescending toward the methods espoused by John and Yoko, thinking of it as a lot of talk and little action. She was short-sighted in the way she treated John and Yoko here, certainly. Some of that came from condescension toward those representing the generation below hers.
This interview shows both approaches to achieve peace have failed miserably lol. Showing people the reality of war, and making them "jolly" about world peace is equally useless. At the end of the day, everyone is out for themselves and there will always be a clash of self interests and egos among people who hold different values and interests = never-ending conflicts and wars. Such is the pathetic state of human nature and nothing ever will change as long as humans walk the earth.
@@joaquindelarosa1215 What does she care? Why attack someone with such venom? Because she said Lennon's actions were self aggrandizing and vulgar, and she believed his actions - his silliness - undermined legitimate protests that were happening on the streets and on college campuses.That's why she cares. That's why she attacked with such venom. And Lennon deserved every bit of that venom with his ridiculousness.
@@user-wp8vy8le3y Richard Widmark in Kiss of death made a name for himself pushing a lady in a wheelchair down a stairway while smiling and laughing like a psycho (the part he played)
What makes this such an interesting exchange is that both John/Yoko and Gloria have fairly valid points to make. They differ strongly in their approaches, hence the clash. Gloria's not wrong to call them out for the hollow nature of most celebrity performance art (which ultimately sells more records and keeps the two of them in the spotlight) while the war still rages on unabated - even John agrees with her at the beginning about that. At the same time, I do think John and Yoko were genuinely trying to help the situation, but in the end, their work was probably preaching to the choir.
I suppose you think it's better John just carried on singing pop songs and ignoring the struggle for peace and equality. John was using his influence to make a difference, whether it worked or not isnt the point, he tried. His particular type of "celebrity" would always be in the spotlight, protest or not. Jeez.
@@dcthomas8959 I mean, he did do exactly what you described - move back to writing pop songs. Even when looking back on this period in his life, he later felt that he was being co-opted by others to use his celebrity to further their causes. I do think it's admirable that John cared about these issues (mostly because of Yoko's influence, no doubt) but there is another angle where this sort of celebrity gesturing does potentially cheapen the cause and make it seem self-serving. The war didn't even end for another 6 years, so as to whether it was effective...that's debatable too.
@@VideoAmericanStyle Oh yeah those great pop songs he carried on writing like Happy Xmas War is Over Freeda People Power To The People Imagine Working Class Hero Gimme Some Truth Give Peace A Chance Etc etc. The list of happy pop tunes is endless..
I with Gloria here. They lived in La La Land completely out of touch thinking their antics would stop the war. btw I wish there were more interviews like this.
Gloria Emerson (May 19, 1929 - August 3, 2004)[1] was an American author, journalist and New York Times war correspondent. Emerson received the 1978 National Book Award in Contemporary Thought for Winners and Losers, her book about the Vietnam War.[2] She wrote four books, in addition to articles for Esquire, Harper's, Vogue, Playboy, Saturday Review and Rolling Stone.
Read ‘Winners and Losers’ by Gloria Swanson to understand how much she knew about war. She was a reporter in Vietnam “in the sh*t” and then spent considerable time roaming around the country interviewing people affected by the war. Garry Wills dismissed the book in a totally soulless review, but he was a desk jockey when it came to proximity to the war, about which he pontificated at great length.
You know it's so funny because back in the time of the 70s practicality was the only way anything could get done...to advertise in a video that only one person would watch would have sounded absurd. Do we know that's incorrect? Of course, UA-cam. One small act repeated millions of times has a major impact., I have to say that John Lennon was very insightful. I'm not one of those people to love everything John Lennon did. Infact I thought this was crazy untill I thought about it. In this idea he had a great insight and was ahead of his time. . Also I got it! He wasn't saying that he was going to save the world by staying in bed he just said I have a honeymoon. I can take it and go to France and see the Eiffel tower or I can do something that will look unusual that people will want to ask me about it and I will tell them.im doing it for peace. That's yours ahead of its time . I see people say they cringe at the time when they saw them in bed but I have to say it's a brilliant idea. Ahead of his time. If we all did our daily routine and claimed to do it for a cause that topic would be much more on people's thoughts ...like us still talking about John Lennon and Yoko ono staying in bed...For what? Peace...still talking about peace peace.... we think John Lennon should have done this big event but he was going to go on a honeymoon either way....so why not avertise peace .. so he gave up going to Hawaii for a week or ten days I'm relaxed in order to advertise Peace by staying in bed. I think that constitutes a good thing and anybody should not have the gall ro mock that?
Well actually I think it's stupid. Yes we talk about it but not in the way he intended to talk about. it came out exactly like the lady thought it would. He got lots of criticism about it and yes he was a hypocrite talking and singing about peace. Has his song do anything except being a tearjerker? Just another Ballad that the rest of the hypocrites like him sing and pretend it has meaning? I mean in all seriousness why we talk about it exactly why we they talked about it. I love the music of the Beatless and I dont deny the sincerity of him trully beleiving what he is saying. I believe he meant everything he said. But no matter how good natured it is - it is not real. This is why people mock the songs I mean Imagine and Give peace a chance to this day. Nobody can take somoene so detached from politics and war seriously when they really think they are doing something REALLY INSPIRATIONAL. John Lennon was a talented musician. He could make pop songs like nobody else. but I think even if he sang about shit- those songs woul be popular. This stage of his life - All I can say is - its full of delussion. I bet if he never been shot he would lmao at this remembering that period. The bed thing was really really lazy bs. Im staying in bed not going to Hawai for World peace. I mean that is some heavy delusion. When u think about it - you cant even be sure if he was mocking the world with that or something. I think this is yoko's stupid crappy influence over him. Actually I really think this is Yoko's influence over him. Doing absurd things in the name of something. Defenetely Yoko's BS. He was not ahead of his time. This was bizzare and self aggrandizing behavior. Look at me Im John Lennon I do this for world peace... There is not even symbolism behind it. Planting a tree, donating money to peacekeepers, even giving New Year greeting signed by him to UN soldiers would make way more sense. There is a reason why nobody likes Yoko Ono. She is really a messed up creature. I think she really messed up John to some degree in a negative way. Also I dont like the reporter being snobbish.
Intimidation doesn't matter. The '60s was the budding of this (Gloria's) establishment. Gloria and the rest of media weren't intimidated because they knew they controlled the narrative. They don't anymore, however.
Why would anyone be intimidated by Lennon? He was a drug addicted hippie. He was also controlled opposition. And yoko was his Handler. The beatles were a psyop created by Tavistock.
To those unaware, Gloria Emerson had been a foreign war correspondent for almost two decades by this point. She was by no means an establishment reactionary. The year after this interview she returned to Vietnam to write about the immense unhappy changes happening in the lives of the Vietnamese people which wasn’t widely covered by the press, who usually only covered the military side of things. By the end of her time there she had comforted countless young American soldiers in their final moments while John and Yoko sat in a bed. She was an incredible woman and she possessed wisdom clearly lacking in those two, as they were living in their own out of touch world at this point in time. Love John but he did not take criticism well.
Tbf John Lenon and Yoko did this to promote world peace and anti-war. They sat on the bed and got a lot of coverage for it. Don't trivialise what they achieved.
You’re take is a good example of someone who underestimates the massive influence that art can have. Nobody is gonna give a fuck about her article. It doesn’t matter how paramount you may think your message might be - presenting it to the public is the hard part. It’s like everything else in life . You may have a great idea but executing and producing that idea is the hard part. If you want to change the publics attitude, the way to do it is mass influence. The Beatles had an influence so large that it rivaled political figures and several facets of the media
There are so many people commenting here that are missing the very point, and the lady doing the interview (and failing miserably at it) didn't get it either. John Lennon being a Beatle, being someone who had everything in life one could ask for (fame & fortune) did something that so many others then and today did not do. He stood up for what he believed in, and although some of it was "weird" did what he could to spread a message of peace & love. He could have done anything. ANYTHING! Yet he chose to do what he could to promote peace, and what's wrong with that? I've read here this reporter was doing interviews and reporting to the world from the front lines in Vietnam, and did some charity work there too. Great! However; she was doing (mostly) her job. John Lennon, was a musician, not a reporter, so how can you put him down for doing something most musicians (if not all) never did. What did Mick Jagger do for peace? What did Roger Doltery or Pete Townsand do? Write and perform a rock opera that had nothing to do with peace. What were any of those world famous musicians doing to promote the peace movement? Not even the other Beatles got involved. So how can anyone knock what he was doing? Gloria Emerson was rude, mean, condensending, and down right rotten to them, and then proves just how unprofessional she was by walking out on them! Shame on her! She could have treated them both with so much more dignity, and gave them credit for what they were attempting to do and help spread the word vs just ripping on them like that!
@@I....l....I idk, the beatles had money issues at the later part of their career when allen klein was squirreling away money and they got into their lawsuits and business issues. not to say john was living in squalor or anything, of course. but they didn't have as much as you'd think. several of their wives later ran into money issues, for example.
"Oh, do you want: nice, middle-class, gestures, for peace, and intellectual manifestos, written by a lot of half-witted intellectuals, and NOBODY READS THEM!" -#JL
@HP-tm4kjSo what? She's still talking bullshit here, coming across as if her only goal in life was throw napalm at some kids in Vietnam while yelling, "MURRICAAAA!!!" While at the same time being absolutely aggressive and condenscending towards anybody refusing to join her in licking Nixon's boots.
She seems to be saying why do something symbolic when you could be doing something practical. But she's talking to a musician. He's not going to negotiate any peace treaties on behalf of the UN. He's going to write some songs and direct the public's attention to some conflicts and I think that's enough. There's always such in fighting in the liberal left and it never achieves anything.
Beatles fan but i'm with the journalist. At the same time, this reminds me a bit of the film The Trial of the Chicago 7, where there is a debate about the importance of "real action" against "cultural revolution" actions. At the end, both are important for different reasons and need to go together.
no its more like this: Gloria: "do you really think your songs and so called peace activisms are saving lives whilst you are far and remote from the very horrors you are protesting against? You are living in a dream world." John: "it may save lives in the future, and, just to be clear, its an advertising campaign for peace. I'm going to make it jolly and sing with all of them." Yoko: *annoyingly waffling nonsensical statements in the background and at the end*
He and the other 3 helped to save my life. I woke up when they stole John from us. I became an activists, after 5 years of apathy. We have the squares like her around today.
I like how Yoko proposes some 4th dimensional buddhist philosophy that if you exude joy that it could stop violence and evils elsewhere. And the reporter just won’t even entertain the idea or challenge it because she finds such a concept silly.
I mean that is pretty fucking silly. I think the interviewer is saying that Lennon’s assertion that the anti-war movement needs to take its self less seriously in order to achieve its ends sounds condescending coming from a multi-millionaire who would never face the threat of being drafted or having a son being drafted or facing any of the societal ills he’s protesting against. Yet he tells the common people working hard to combat these social pressures that they’re coming at the whole thing wrong and that instead they need to have a self-aggrandizing series of narcissistic publicity stunts.
@@dakotaspruell1083 John however makes the better points that he uses the platform and gift he has to promote and help give symbols to the movement for peace, which he’s being persecuted for by the Nixon/Hoover administration for. It’s why he refers to America as fascist. Also, to be rich and be able to prevent yourself or your family from being drafted off to war doesn’t mean that one can’t fight for the end of violence. Plus the final point of happiness was less of a general statement, in my interpretation, and more a commentary on the supporters of the war and those who got involved as being ones who are enraged and violently raging against dissent. At this time, protesters were shot to death and harassed in schools for wearing armbands, I already mentioned Lennon being help back by the US government for political reasons. At the end of the day, she was really looking for reasons to discredit Lennon’s message and he tried to say that he wants to tell it how it is and promote peace with his platform, he wants to join the protests but literally can’t.
@@dakotaspruell1083 it takes all kinds. organizing a movement needs every skill set and a diversity of perspectives to draw more people in. everybody can contribute something different. he just happened to be a musician.
@@dakotaspruell1083 John was born in a shit home where his dad left and his mom died and he still managed to become the most famous person of the 1960s, a cultural icon, an inspiration for billions. He didn’t have to call for peace to maintain his celebrity. He could have easily just banged out slightly worse Beatle type songs, make million, and remain in the media’s good grace for the rest of his life like Paul did. But he didn’t, did he? He took a stand against war, Nixon, and American imperialism in a time where white celebrities simply did not do that. The peace movement needed a face, it needed structure, an ambassador with the ability to clearly explain their ideas and grievances. John stepped into that role and sacrificed everything for a movement he believed in and you’re hating on him because he was successful at pushing the message of peace?? Fuck you. Call Martin Luther King Jr a narcissist, call John Brown an egomaniac, call Andrea Constand just a money hungry attention seeker. I dare you because your backwards arguments won’t hold any water there but because John made a successful song all of sudden he’s a narcissist? Nope. No. I call bullshit.
This interview unfortunately went south when Yoko starting talking at the end about making it jolly. Up until then John was holding his own with Ms. Emerson.
3 years late but I want to say I dont think he really was holding his own. Think he got backed into a corner as Gloria was totally dominating that argument. It was evidently clear that Gloria was verbally, maybe even factually, beating john with a stick
@@ronnie9077This Gloria, whoever she is (history seems to have rightfully forgotten about her), has no point at all here. All she manages is to get across as both one of Nixon's bootlickers *AND* highly arrogant and condenscending towards anybody who refused to lick Nixon's boots along with her. Some people here in the comments are saying she and John would have the same goals and are only trying to achieve it via different means, but this "interview" only makes her look like her only goal in life was to throw napalm on some kids in Vietnam while waving a flag and yelling, "MURRICAAAAA!"
@@ChristopherGray00 Um ....... If a musician told their main audience of 18-24 year olds, you know that demographic that most politicians would love to grab up for a lifetime if they could, that that politician was no good, untrustworthy, or not fulfilling their obligations in office, do you think that musician's fan base would listen? Do you think they'd listen to that musician before they listened to that politician. A musician doesn't have to stop politicians. A musician only has to stop the people voting for them. And you think Artists and Musicians have no power over Politic, or Religion. You're undervaluing the power of Art to influence Society. Gloria Emerson did not underestimate that power at all, she knew its potential to guide youth, opinion, and votes. She was just talking to a "Pop" artist, whose main impetus for writing songs with McCartney, was to get swimming pools. Money. That's why you see Harrison turning the charity event using music, as a working tool for assistance. Because he did it right. He hit all forms of media to push that concert, the live album, the film, and when media changed, that concert was available in all the updated technology. Since 1971, that concert has perpetually funded UNICEF for over 50 years. And the people that say he did it "wrong" are fools. He did it right. If you get chased by the US for taxes, when something clearly says it's a charity, you've become a target. Especially if you're on FBI lists of investigation (which he and Lennon both were). Especially if you're naming the US as the main culprit as to WHY they were so many people dying and refugee in Bangladesh. Because the USA funded the Pakistan army that did that shit to millions of people. And Harrison blatantly said this in advertising / promotion of the concert. She's exasperated with an Artist who is making comical gestures imploring peace and change, but not making any real sacrifice, or enduring any hardship or punishment for doing so. Almost making it "entertainment purposes only." Muhummad Ali protested the Vietnam War or serving in it, and he most definitely got punished for doing so. That's why she's giving Lennon a hard time. Because he's having an easy time being a "commie loving hippy."
@@DrTomoculus this. If not for you I would have had to comment something similar. I like Lennon a lot, and I think he had good intentions and purpose with these peace movements. But in this video and argument particularly, Gloria was indubitably right
I agree with you. John was not that great a person. He was so rich but let his ex-wife Cynthia penniless. She was so broke that Paul McCartney came to her aid.
Unfortunately, Gloria is the more credible one in the discussion because she was a war correspondent and experienced what they’re talking about firsthand. In her eyes, John and Yoko were foolish and naive - which maybe they were.
And yet her entire attitude toward the interview was itself self-aggrandizing. That accent of hers says everything about her disposition: elitist to the core.
Tell me one thing she said that was a good point All she did was insult them and willfully misinterpret everything they said Gloria was just trying to make a name for herself off their backs. Total narcissist
@@JohnSmith-su3ze Yes a total narcissist whose journalism and reporting contradicted what the military were claiming were "body counts" in Vietnam, and the rising drug use amongst the soldiers. Which could have gotten her in a shitload of trouble, cuz it was about her ego. Yeah.
@@JohnSmith-su3ze " @JohnSmith-su3ze 7 months ago Tell me one thing she said that was a good point" "What does John Lennon know about Protests." It's a very good question.
It’s strange to see how stubborn she could be. I was alive when this interview happened. I was 12 or 13 and I knew that he was trying to turn his fame into a chance to tell us to stop killing each other. No wonder they hated him. The war was ridiculous and brought only suffering to the world.
@@loosilu Elvis did. Possibly moreso. Kurt Russel made a movie with him in the mid-sixties, when his popularity was waning from the stupid movies he was making, and he said every day on set there were thousands and thousands of girls on the edges of the set watching and screaming. If that was what it was like during the lowest point of his career.....Shelley Fabares said the same thing. She made 3 films with him in the mid-sixties, during that lowest period of his career. She tells a story to illustrate how mind-blowing it must have been for him during times of his career when he was uber-popular. She said she was on lot at Universal filming with him, and there was a lunch break. So she went to the lot commisar. It was huge --- there were about 700 people in there eating. These were other actors, stage people, prop people, stunt people. These were Hollywood insiders and employees who worked on the sets everyday. It was their job, and they were so accustomed to this that NOBODY was a star to them. They had seen all the big stars and it didn't excite them --- it was just their job and the stars were their colleagues. Suddenly she saw Elvis outside the door looking in through the door window. He was shielding his eyes from the sun so he could see through the reflection in the door. Suddenly, every single one of the 700 people eating stood up and began sprinting to the door. He saw the tsunamie of people coming for him and he had a panicked look and took off running. Her point was if this is how Hollywood insiders who were no longer phased by the famous reacted to Elvis during the lowest point in his career, can you imagine how fans reacted to him in the '50s and '70s?
@@loosilu You have no idea --- there is very little film available from the '50s of crowds reacting to Elvis, believe it or not. Plus, John Lennon could walk around NYC in the '70s without being bothered --- Elvis could not have done that in the '70s. I mean, George Harrison even played groupie when Elvis played Madison Square Garden in '73 and stood outside the Garden where Elvis' limousine entered and exited, and said he looked like "Vishnu".
@@loosilu Elvis couldn't even walk through the lobby of the Vegas Hilton without people losing their minds. I know a woman from Memphis who said she was a little girl when Elvis was big. One day she was in the car with her mother, and Elvis pulled up to the red light next to them. Her MOTHER said to her, "That's the best-looking man I've ever seen in my life", and when the light turned green her mother engaged in a high-speed chase trying to follow Elvis. A grown woman with a child. This happened to him all the time. John Lennon had that schizophrenic Vietnam vet come on his property and squat there. Elvis had fellow celebrities jump the gates at Graceland, such as Springsteen, and sprint up to the lawn to try to meet him.
It’s refreshing see people who are arguing, do so without name calling or screaming loudly at each other. We’ve lost the ability to argue different positions civilly.
@@DanAir No, she wasn't right in the slightest. It was an idiotic thing to say. The war in Vietnam had absolutely nothing to do with how happy American soldiers were or how happy American protestors were for that matter. It's a statement so asinine, so apolitical and so divorced from reality, as well as condescending to the protesters who are actually taking the risks and putting their bodies on the line, that it functions as hard proof of Gloria's assertion that they have no understanding of the issue and are living in Never-never land.
She is pretty adversarial, unfortunately Yoko, she maybe well intended, but yes, many people in Rwanda, Bosnia, Syria, The Holocaust etc were happy to kill and torment. In genocide people go mad and lose their minds sadly. Trust me on that.
I support the anti war movement to the extent I can. However when you are confronted with a humanitarian catastrophe caused by people and violence...if it’s large enough and widespread enough....if 2 million people are going to be possible wiped out like Bosnia....you “may have to use force to stop people from getting killed”, it’s a harsh reality.
To be confronted by someone who didn't agree with him was a great shock to John. During this time he was surrounded by sycophants who agreed with anything he said. He was living in a bubble and had no real understanding of the world outside. Gloria was right to call him out and question his commitment to the peace process. Time proved she was right....within a year all his enthusiasm was gone .
@HP-tm4kj "He started all the bull crap we see from Hollywood and the music industry." I disagree. We (left/right) can't start anything. We have no choice. Since USSR collapsed and US war slaves lost their main enemy, the Money Makers said: "If you don't want to fight in big World wars, you will fight with yourself on your own territory". So our russian war slaves started war with their former USSR partners on their own territory, and USA started to prepare for civil war. Why you americans are upset about Hollywood, when so many people will die soon? Who cares about music industry?
@@Greenballoffire They still think she broke up the Beatles so everything she does or says is stupid. I find Yoko to be very intelligent and doesn't get enough credit.
@@I....l....IIt’s all Paul fans that don’t care to see how it was Paul who pushed John, George and even Ringo away with his need for control and his songs that at the end both John and George didn’t care for. Ringo left first because Paul kept wanting to record his drum parts, George left after because Paul was telling him what to play and John left, temporarily perhaps like George said, because he wanted a change. Paul then told the press and sued the other 3. Where is Yoko in any of this?!
Celebrities should just stay out of these issues and do what they do best. I remember an interview with Elvis where they asked him about his opinion of the Vietnam war. He said 'Honey, I'm just an entertainer so I prefer to keep my opinions on controversial topics to myself.' That's how Lennon handled things until Yoko got involved.
John will be remembered for being a great musician and activist. Yoko made a great point of the “unhappy killers” (but in this day and age, there are way too many cases of happy killings). John was smart and witty throughout. I love this man.
I've met Yoko Ono. I was working behind the bar at a festival she was endorsing, some weird stuff and she was signing copies of her book. She was friendly, seemed like a nice lady. Daft as a fucking brush.. but nice.
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Feels like I’m watching the office
Lol
John Lennon was apparently a wee fruit cake
When his misses starts talking that load of shit 😂😂😂
The worst thing about the Beatles was the dementors
🤣 it's even filmed like that too!
1:17 “IT WAS AN ADVERTISING CAMPAIGN FOR PEACE” said John in a calm tone
@chetsenior7253nope
@chetsenior7253 Well, Jesus and many others before him said: "Thou shalt not kill". And it 100% failed too. Military is a destructive death cult (strict hierarchy, human sacrifices, idol worshipping-kissing flags). At least John was not part of it.
this whole interview makes me laugh, best part John saying "about 29", it felt like a scene from the office HHAHA
John is the original Jim
(Looking to camera)
"Can you believe this woman?" He thinks.
I thought the same thing, he said " I'm 29"
Might be his IQ
@@hansnoor9637 how silly of you.
That's a stupid thing to say.
Did I change your mind?
Neither did she.
John is Dwight, Paul is Jim, George is Ryan, and Ringo is Michael
Interviewer: Have you? What have you grown up to?
John: about 29 🤣🤣🤣
Lennon was a bright man and he had a wit.
@@jamesanthony5681 He was lazy, entitled, and believed every fart was significant. He had beliefs and refused to do the work.
@@loosilu Lazy? Refused to do the work? Do you mean by not going out in the streets and actively protesting against the war as others were doing, rather than laying in bed and conducting a 'bed-in for peace' which even he came to realize was silly? He had that drug charge and was at risk of being deported so he had to be careful. Not sure whether he was on Nixon's 'enemies list.'
@@loosilu Hope that's a bait, mate.
@@jamesanthony5681 He described himself as the laziest man in the world. He slept all day and did next to nothing. That's from his own mouth.
It was corroborated by multiple people that he basically refused to get off his ass for any reasons.
I must say, the best line in this was "Mrs. Lennon, we're boring each other" as she packs up to leave.
Hehe
Now that was rude and gosh. It was insulting. You can conclude an interview without being insulting
@@beasleybrother1 Yoko thought people cared about her opinion. She was wrong. John earned the respect he had, she was piggybacking.
She was rude the whole interview to them
“We can’t all afford to be neurotic.” Love it.
John Lennon gets irritated with Gloria Emerson
"I'm a weirdo saving up to be an eccentric"
Beatles and John fan here! When John said he’s saving lives for being in bed IS ridiculous. Sometimes we gotta admit he thought way too much of himself.
Thousands of lives were saved by the peace movement.. people have said they didn't go because of the things Lennon and others said and did. If he hasn't done stunts like go to bed for peace not as many people would have been discussing the issue. As he notes, the Beatles were being followed and photographed and written about every day and he might as well do something like that... It was easier to have the press come to his room than to organise press conferences in a town he didn't live in and he was under even more scrutiny because he had just got married and there isn't much room in a hotel bedroom so the idea of saying we are having a bed in was a way of joking about the fact that they would both be in or in the bed or in the room. Sure it seems a naive kind of stunt but these things are born organically and he didn't necessarily expect it to be discussed several years on. People were dying in the war there and then and history has sided with those who spoke out.
Lots of love to you as a Beatles and John fan, I'm just airing my thoughts rightly or wrongly
@@Rich-ng3yy I'm sure many beatles fans refused to serve in the war because of what lennon said, but Thousands? Especially when you could be prison-ed for refusing to serve? I'm not so sure about that.
Also a beatles fan. Love his accent here as well. Gloria Emerson was also a tough lady, she was diagnosed with parkinsons in her old age and chose to shoot herself and die instead of having to be helpless and a burden.
Ironic how both lennon and gloria here died of a gunshot, but in extremely different ways.
Im sure he could have done so much more specially with his power in songs like freda peeple or give peace a chance , it was dangerous to say that and make a whole generation sing a long , but also think that Yoko made him believe he only could do good and inflated his ego making him not analyze his actions and words , ending with false promises , if he had stopped consuming so many hard drugs and left his mommy issues with yoko , he could have had so much political and social power
@@gregh5061 The Beatles were the biggest band in the world, four of the most famous people at that time. I think you're understating (not by your own fault) their significant because of how different the world is now. They had an absolute hold on the world for 7 odd years. Look at the turnout after Lennon's death. It wasn't hundreds. It was thousands, hundreds of thousands from America and Britian alone. Many many more from the rest of the world.
That’s a rarity; an interviewer walking out on the interviewee.
He deserved it.
@@loosilu How so? She was putting him down the whole time.
@@geraldobrien7323 She was right. He obviously wasn't used to people pushing back at him.
@@loosilu She was being rude the whole time interrupting him and insulting him when he was trying to calmly explain
@@evanpowers6045 did you not listen to the argument..?
*AN ADVER-TISING CAMPAIGN FOR PEACE!* John said calmly.
And I really like it when John says “well I’m sorry if you like you’re old moptops dear and you thought I was typical and you liked hard day’s night but I’ve grown up, but you obviously haven’t.”
Gloria Emerson (May 19, 1929 - August 3, 2004) was an American author, journalist and New York Times war correspondent. Emerson received the 1978 National Book Award in Contemporary Thought for Winners and Losers, her book about the Vietnam War. She wrote four books, in addition to articles for Esquire, Harper's, Vogue, Playboy, Saturday Review and Rolling Stone.
Gloria Emerson is one of the most important journalists of her generation, mainly because she's one of the first female journalists to cover wars/conflicts, and insisting being sent to these places, rather than regulated to the "fashion tips" sections of newspapers. She was a trailblazer and game changer for women in Journalism.
For those thinking she hasn't brought up any good points to Lennon about his campaign :
If a musician told their main audience of 18-24 year olds, you know that demographic that most politicians would love to grab up for a lifetime if they could, that that politician was no good, untrustworthy, or not fulfilling their obligations in office, do you think that musician's fan base would listen? Do you think they'd listen to that musician before they listened to that politician.
A musician doesn't have to stop politicians. A musician only has to stop the people voting for them.
And you think Artists and Musicians have no power over Politic, or Religion. You're undervaluing the power of Art to influence Society. Gloria Emerson did not underestimate that power at all, she knew its potential to guide youth, opinion, and votes. She was just talking to a "Pop" artist, whose main impetus for writing songs with McCartney, was to get swimming pools. Money. That's why you see Harrison turning the charity event using music, as a working tool for assistance. Because he did it right. He hit all forms of media to push that concert, the live album, the film, and when media changed, that concert was available in all the updated technology. Since 1971, that concert has perpetually funded UNICEF for over 50 years. And the people that say he did it "wrong" are fools. He did it right. If you get chased by the US for taxes, when something clearly says it's a charity, you've become a target. Especially if you're on FBI lists of investigation (which he and Lennon both were). Especially if you're naming the US as the main culprit as to WHY there were so many people dying and refugee in Bangladesh. Because the USA funded the Pakistan army that did that shit to millions of people. And Harrison blatantly said this in advertising / promotion of the concert.
She's exasperated with an Artist who is making comical gestures imploring peace and change, but not making any real sacrifice, or enduring any hardship or punishment for doing so. Almost making it "entertainment purposes only." Muhummad Ali protested the Vietnam War or serving in it, and he most definitely got punished for doing so.
This is why she asks him "What do YOU know about Protests."
Because the kind of protests she's witnessed, that she's been reporting on, she's seen, have people getting beaten to death, or hauled off to prison, or never seen again. People with picket signs getting their heads bashed in by police, or shot at, tear gassed. What does John Lennon know about any of that, sitting in a bed getting room service. Are these things a joke to you is her response to him. There are people sacrificing their lives to make changes so that more lives don't get lost, and you're sitting in bed. This is why she called him a fake. He calls her a snob for being high horse about things. She tells him what you're doing is BENEATH YOU, you're BETTER than this. Where she is, is where HE should be. Not doing Barnum & Bailey circus antics.
That's why she's giving Lennon a hard time. Because he's having an easy time being a "commie loving hippy."
Agreed. Absolutely.
John Lennon makes a true Jedi.
Spot on....... Couldn't have put it better myself
This whole attitude seems ridiculous. It makes the suffering of the "giver" more of a focus than what they actually give. Seems like she wants John Lennon to suffer more than she wants him to make any kind of difference.
@@bravetherainbow the point is, that she was a renowned political Journalist with many years of experience in her field and knew full well that john wasnt making any difference and wouldn't make any difference, and she was right.
2:18 LMFAO HER FACE WHEN JOHN ADDS THAT IN I CANT
“When I get there I’ll sing it with them”
1:58 made me laugh so much
Ask John Lennon a silly question?... "Are you grown up?", you'll get an equally silly answer from 1 of the gutsiest most ingenious human beings of all time... "Yes I'm 29!", good on ya John!, God bless you. 🙏
it's annoying how people say ''john lennon was angry'' well people made him angry by asking dumb questions and by not listening and sometimes by being outright rude to him or yoko. 🙄
no, gloria had a legitimate point here.
This was really recorded in 1969? Looks like it was recorded in the late 90’s.
Yeah in 1969
Lennon has a late birthday so this was probably 1970.
It wasn't recorded. It was filmed. It's called 'film'.
@@zerne7887 Lennon had his hair cut in early 1970, so this was most likely filmed in November or December 1969.
It was shot on film, not tape
This is sounding like my mom and dad arguing over her talking a bit weirdly to his guests
and yoko is the annoying child
I love how Gloria just leaves at the end💀
Yeah, that war she lost. !
@@Gretny The only thing she lost was her desire to put up with all that nonsense, she was a serious journalist. She at least took the time to do something productive by going to Vietnam instead of lying on a bed.
I love John and all but this Gloria Emerson was fearless!
She was indeed, wow!
Hey there
Yeah a lot of bad people are fearless, that's not admirable. None of the points she brought up made sense, she's essentially berating john for not changing the world with his music, which is like asking an astronaut to go be a tank crewman for a war.
She was one of the first female journalists to cover conflicts/wars. Before her, women were regulated to providing fashion tips in newspapers / periodicals
@@ChristopherGray00 As one of the first female journalists to report on wars/conflicts, she most certainly knows what she's talking about regarding Vietnam.
Music can do a lot of things. She's not wrong. Why do you think media corporations made so much money from music, but not the artists. Music is healing. Music connects people. He very well could have changed the world with his music. But if you're going to tell people give peace a chance, but you don't even seek peace within your own family and friends, or former band members, what point can you possibly hope to make that makes any impact.
It's a fascinating interview, I'd love to see the full version if one is available. What strikes me is that both John Lennon and Gloria Emerson wanted the same thing namely peace but disagreed on how best to achieve it. I can see why Gloria Emerson was annoyed with Lennon viewing his campaigns as narcissistic and ineffectual given his enormous celebrity status. However, there is no doubt that Lennon's actions influenced a huge number of people and continue to inspire people today. Gloria Emerson did the hard graft of visiting Vietnam, reporting from the frontline and exposing the horror of war from the victims' perspective for that she should be admired. Interestingly, Emerson believed that if Lennon had gone to Vietnam and visited the troops with his message of peace he could have stopped the war.
This sums it up beautifully. The Lennons certainly did some good in their efforts to advertise peace. But I think Emerson by this point had seen so much suffering in Vietnam and had seen so many risk their bodies and livelihoods to oppose the war in the US that she could not put aside her disdain for PR efforts. Had she simply said to the Lennons, here is something else you can do if you really want to see the war end and put it to them quite seriously, who knows how history might have differed.
I think Gloria Emerson had an agenda. Anyone who is against war would never attack with such venom someone who is just advertising for peace. What does she care? To interview Lennon just to call him out as a phony is very contradicting for some women who claims to be pro peace.
@@joaquindelarosa1215 She did have an agenda of ending the war. A reading of her work and her book about the era would show that. But she is condescending toward the methods espoused by John and Yoko, thinking of it as a lot of talk and little action. She was short-sighted in the way she treated John and Yoko here, certainly. Some of that came from condescension toward those representing the generation below hers.
This interview shows both approaches to achieve peace have failed miserably lol. Showing people the reality of war, and making them "jolly" about world peace is equally useless. At the end of the day, everyone is out for themselves and there will always be a clash of self interests and egos among people who hold different values and interests = never-ending conflicts and wars. Such is the pathetic state of human nature and nothing ever will change as long as humans walk the earth.
@@joaquindelarosa1215 What does she care? Why attack someone with such venom?
Because she said Lennon's actions were self aggrandizing and vulgar, and she believed his actions - his silliness - undermined legitimate protests that were happening on the streets and on college campuses.That's why she cares. That's why she attacked with such venom. And Lennon deserved every bit of that venom with his ridiculousness.
"Have you ever seen someone kill someone with a smile on their face?"
Yes. Yes I have. They apparently enjoyed it very much.
doesn't happen
@@DAEDRICHHHH-TUCKER19Psychopaths literally get pleasure from killing dude...
I think they are called psychopaths !
@@user-wp8vy8le3y Richard Widmark in Kiss of death made a
name for himself pushing a lady
in a wheelchair down a stairway
while smiling and laughing like
a psycho (the part he played)
@@DAEDRICHHHH-TUCKER19 Sweet summer child.
Lennon asked calmly
What makes this such an interesting exchange is that both John/Yoko and Gloria have fairly valid points to make. They differ strongly in their approaches, hence the clash.
Gloria's not wrong to call them out for the hollow nature of most celebrity performance art (which ultimately sells more records and keeps the two of them in the spotlight) while the war still rages on unabated - even John agrees with her at the beginning about that. At the same time, I do think John and Yoko were genuinely trying to help the situation, but in the end, their work was probably preaching to the choir.
I suppose you think it's better John just carried on singing pop songs and ignoring the struggle for peace and equality. John was using his influence to make a difference, whether it worked or not isnt the point, he tried.
His particular type of "celebrity" would always be in the spotlight, protest or not.
Jeez.
@@dcthomas8959 I mean, he did do exactly what you described - move back to writing pop songs. Even when looking back on this period in his life, he later felt that he was being co-opted by others to use his celebrity to further their causes. I do think it's admirable that John cared about these issues (mostly because of Yoko's influence, no doubt) but there is another angle where this sort of celebrity gesturing does potentially cheapen the cause and make it seem self-serving. The war didn't even end for another 6 years, so as to whether it was effective...that's debatable too.
@@VideoAmericanStyle Oh yeah those great pop songs he carried on writing like
Happy Xmas War is Over
Freeda People
Power To The People
Imagine
Working Class Hero
Gimme Some Truth
Give Peace A Chance
Etc etc. The list of happy pop tunes is endless..
@@dcthomas8959 yeah, all of those were written during this brief period. Any protest songs on Double Fantasy? Not exactly.
@@VideoAmericanStyleThat's a lame response as his previous work out weighs that one album.
Go away now, I'm busy.
You realize that even before John did this interview people like him did protests like that.
I with Gloria here. They lived in La La Land completely out of touch thinking their antics would stop the war. btw I wish there were more interviews like this.
Gloria Emerson (May 19, 1929 - August 3, 2004)[1] was an American author, journalist and New York Times war correspondent. Emerson received the 1978 National Book Award in Contemporary Thought for Winners and Losers, her book about the Vietnam War.[2] She wrote four books, in addition to articles for Esquire, Harper's, Vogue, Playboy, Saturday Review and Rolling Stone.
Boring.
@@Lorenzo-cp7qs She's not boring. She's one of the first female journalists to correspond and report on wars/conflicts. She's a pioneer in her field.
One of john’s best looks
🤮
@@OCTOBERBABY7901nice face Reveal
I would cut off my left hand for more interviews on this level…
GET THE KNIFE
Read ‘Winners and Losers’ by Gloria Swanson to understand how much she knew about war. She was a reporter in Vietnam “in the sh*t” and then spent considerable time roaming around the country interviewing people affected by the war. Garry Wills dismissed the book in a totally soulless review, but he was a desk jockey when it came to proximity to the war, about which he pontificated at great length.
also she was an fbi informant of that era, mingling with the peaceniks---sneaky spy---. but probably not mentioned in her auto-bio.
You mean Gloria Emerson
Gloria Emerson, not Gloria Swanson (Swanson was an actress).
You know it's so funny because back in the time of the 70s practicality was the only way anything could get done...to advertise in a video that only one person would watch would have sounded absurd. Do we know that's incorrect? Of course, UA-cam. One small act repeated millions of times has a major impact., I have to say that John Lennon was very insightful. I'm not one of those people to love everything John Lennon did.
Infact I thought this was crazy untill I thought about it. In this idea he had a great insight and was ahead of his time. . Also I got it! He wasn't saying that he was going to save the world by staying in bed he just said I have a honeymoon. I can take it and go to France and see the Eiffel tower or I can do something that will look unusual that people will want to ask me about it and I will tell them.im doing it for peace. That's yours ahead of its time . I see people say they cringe at the time when they saw them in bed but I have to say it's a brilliant idea. Ahead of his time. If we all did our daily routine and claimed to do it for a cause that topic would be much more on people's thoughts ...like us still talking about John Lennon and Yoko ono staying in bed...For what? Peace...still talking about peace peace.... we think John Lennon should have done this big event but he was going to go on a honeymoon either way....so why not avertise peace .. so he gave up going to Hawaii for a week or ten days I'm relaxed in order to advertise Peace by staying in bed. I think that constitutes a good thing and anybody should not have the gall ro mock that?
Well actually I think it's stupid. Yes we talk about it but not in the way he intended to talk about. it came out exactly like the lady thought it would.
He got lots of criticism about it and yes he was a hypocrite talking and singing about peace.
Has his song do anything except being a tearjerker? Just another Ballad that the rest of the hypocrites like him sing and pretend it has meaning?
I mean in all seriousness why we talk about it exactly why we they talked about it.
I love the music of the Beatless and I dont deny the sincerity of him trully beleiving what he is saying. I believe he meant everything he said. But no matter how good natured it is - it is not real. This is why people mock the songs I mean Imagine and Give peace a chance to this day.
Nobody can take somoene so detached from politics and war seriously when they really think they are doing something REALLY INSPIRATIONAL.
John Lennon was a talented musician. He could make pop songs like nobody else. but I think even if he sang about shit- those songs woul be popular.
This stage of his life - All I can say is - its full of delussion. I bet if he never been shot he would lmao at this remembering that period.
The bed thing was really really lazy bs. Im staying in bed not going to Hawai for World peace. I mean that is some heavy delusion. When u think about it - you cant even be sure if he was mocking the world with that or something.
I think this is yoko's stupid crappy influence over him.
Actually I really think this is Yoko's influence over him. Doing absurd things in the name of something. Defenetely Yoko's BS.
He was not ahead of his time. This was bizzare and self aggrandizing behavior. Look at me Im John Lennon I do this for world peace...
There is not even symbolism behind it. Planting a tree, donating money to peacekeepers, even giving New Year greeting signed by him to UN soldiers would make way more sense.
There is a reason why nobody likes Yoko Ono. She is really a messed up creature. I think she really messed up John to some degree in a negative way.
Also I dont like the reporter being snobbish.
That makes sense
Gloria was certainly not intimidated by John. 99% of people were intimidated by him.
Intimidation doesn't matter. The '60s was the budding of this (Gloria's) establishment. Gloria and the rest of media weren't intimidated because they knew they controlled the narrative. They don't anymore, however.
Why would anyone be intimidated by Lennon? He was a drug addicted hippie. He was also controlled opposition. And yoko was his Handler. The beatles were a psyop created by Tavistock.
@@OCTOBERBABY7901 Yeah, with an education. !
@@Gretny lennon nvr graduated from college. He dropped out.
@@OCTOBERBABY7901 Life, not some piece of paper. ! You can't go to college and get a degree in common sense. !
Yoko puts her points across like an elementary school counselor would
And I love it
This looks like a video from a digital camera in the early 2000s
It's a bad telecine/uploaded to UA-cam at a low resolution.
If only he were here today
John was a Blinding Light of Hope in the World , how we so Much Need His Spirit Today , Back by Popular Demand PEACE☮☮✌✌
John looked really cold when the interviewer tried to shut down Yoko, which I find quite sweet in a strange sort of way
To those unaware, Gloria Emerson had been a foreign war correspondent for almost two decades by this point. She was by no means an establishment reactionary. The year after this interview she returned to Vietnam to write about the immense unhappy changes happening in the lives of the Vietnamese people which wasn’t widely covered by the press, who usually only covered the military side of things. By the end of her time there she had comforted countless young American soldiers in their final moments while John and Yoko sat in a bed. She was an incredible woman and she possessed wisdom clearly lacking in those two, as they were living in their own out of touch world at this point in time. Love John but he did not take criticism well.
Tbf John Lenon and Yoko did this to promote world peace and anti-war. They sat on the bed and got a lot of coverage for it. Don't trivialise what they achieved.
You’re take is a good example of someone who underestimates the massive influence that art can have. Nobody is gonna give a fuck about her article. It doesn’t matter how paramount you may think your message might be - presenting it to the public is the hard part. It’s like everything else in life . You may have a great idea but executing and producing that idea is the hard part. If you want to change the publics attitude, the way to do it is mass influence. The Beatles had an influence so large that it rivaled political figures and several facets of the media
He did more for people and peace than she ever did. That’s a fact. She sounds noble - he was is a legend who shaped culture in immeasurable ways.
She was and always will be a nobody.
@@alexgraham6845 LMFAOOOO delusional
There are so many people commenting here that are missing the very point, and the lady doing the interview (and failing miserably at it) didn't get it either. John Lennon being a Beatle, being someone who had everything in life one could ask for (fame & fortune) did something that so many others then and today did not do. He stood up for what he believed in, and although some of it was "weird" did what he could to spread a message of peace & love. He could have done anything. ANYTHING! Yet he chose to do what he could to promote peace, and what's wrong with that? I've read here this reporter was doing interviews and reporting to the world from the front lines in Vietnam, and did some charity work there too. Great! However; she was doing (mostly) her job. John Lennon, was a musician, not a reporter, so how can you put him down for doing something most musicians (if not all) never did. What did Mick Jagger do for peace? What did Roger Doltery or Pete Townsand do? Write and perform a rock opera that had nothing to do with peace. What were any of those world famous musicians doing to promote the peace movement? Not even the other Beatles got involved. So how can anyone knock what he was doing? Gloria Emerson was rude, mean, condensending, and down right rotten to them, and then proves just how unprofessional she was by walking out on them! Shame on her! She could have treated them both with so much more dignity, and gave them credit for what they were attempting to do and help spread the word vs just ripping on them like that!
condescending
Well said
people were so reluctant to listen.
This should be a scene in a Lennon biopic
It’s funny as I get older Liz seems more based, but I still love Lennon’s spirit.
What that he only promoted peace for advertising? He got paid. It wasn’t real.
@@carmenbautista3353 John Lenno needed absolutely NO money after becoming the most successful musician of all time
@@I....l....I idk, the beatles had money issues at the later part of their career when allen klein was squirreling away money and they got into their lawsuits and business issues. not to say john was living in squalor or anything, of course. but they didn't have as much as you'd think. several of their wives later ran into money issues, for example.
Wow,Yoko and John r brave,yes,to sing together,the song makes happy and smilling💜Love and Peace
"Oh, do you want: nice, middle-class, gestures, for peace, and intellectual manifestos, written by a lot of half-witted intellectuals, and NOBODY READS THEM!" -#JL
@HP-tm4kjWhat kind of a reasoning is that? "I'm American, so I got a get-out-of-jail-for-free card" or what?
@HP-tm4kjSo what? She's still talking bullshit here, coming across as if her only goal in life was throw napalm at some kids in Vietnam while yelling, "MURRICAAAA!!!" While at the same time being absolutely aggressive and condenscending towards anybody refusing to join her in licking Nixon's boots.
I actually like this interviewer. She made some points.
She seems to be saying why do something symbolic when you could be doing something practical. But she's talking to a musician. He's not going to negotiate any peace treaties on behalf of the UN. He's going to write some songs and direct the public's attention to some conflicts and I think that's enough. There's always such in fighting in the liberal left and it never achieves anything.
@notThatBad411 which drugs ? 😂😂
@@liverpoollad1271 thats what im wondering!
@@cardiffwilly then he simply lacked imagination and vision
Name one good point she made
Beatles fan but i'm with the journalist. At the same time, this reminds me a bit of the film The Trial of the Chicago 7, where there is a debate about the importance of "real action" against "cultural revolution" actions. At the end, both are important for different reasons and need to go together.
Summary of the discussion:
Her: “You’re using your celebrity status to talk about peace when no one asked for it”
Him: “…So?”
no its more like this:
Gloria: "do you really think your songs and so called peace activisms are saving lives whilst you are far and remote from the very horrors you are protesting against? You are living in a dream world."
John: "it may save lives in the future, and, just to be clear, its an advertising campaign for peace. I'm going to make it jolly and sing with all of them."
Yoko: *annoyingly waffling nonsensical statements in the background and at the end*
@@ronnie9077 Yet nowadays celebrities get bashed if they don't speak out against wars and other crimes against humanity.
Same goals, different roots. Start to attack each other. Human behaviour at it's best 😅
Couldn't have said it any better.
Sad really.
She attacked them, they didn't attack her
because the roots do matter. by that logic no one should disagree with malcolm x.
He and the other 3 helped to save my life. I woke up when they stole John from us. I became an activists, after 5 years of apathy. We have the squares like her around today.
0:52 LMAO sorry but that response to Yoko was so satisfying. She channelled George and the wider public in that moment
I like how Yoko proposes some 4th dimensional buddhist philosophy that if you exude joy that it could stop violence and evils elsewhere. And the reporter just won’t even entertain the idea or challenge it because she finds such a concept silly.
I mean that is pretty fucking silly. I think the interviewer is saying that Lennon’s assertion that the anti-war movement needs to take its self less seriously in order to achieve its ends sounds condescending coming from a multi-millionaire who would never face the threat of being drafted or having a son being drafted or facing any of the societal ills he’s protesting against. Yet he tells the common people working hard to combat these social pressures that they’re coming at the whole thing wrong and that instead they need to have a self-aggrandizing series of narcissistic publicity stunts.
I like how your comment merely describes the interaction in the video we all just watched.
@@dakotaspruell1083 John however makes the better points that he uses the platform and gift he has to promote and help give symbols to the movement for peace, which he’s being persecuted for by the Nixon/Hoover administration for. It’s why he refers to America as fascist. Also, to be rich and be able to prevent yourself or your family from being drafted off to war doesn’t mean that one can’t fight for the end of violence.
Plus the final point of happiness was less of a general statement, in my interpretation, and more a commentary on the supporters of the war and those who got involved as being ones who are enraged and violently raging against dissent. At this time, protesters were shot to death and harassed in schools for wearing armbands, I already mentioned Lennon being help back by the US government for political reasons.
At the end of the day, she was really looking for reasons to discredit Lennon’s message and he tried to say that he wants to tell it how it is and promote peace with his platform, he wants to join the protests but literally can’t.
@@dakotaspruell1083 it takes all kinds. organizing a movement needs every skill set and a diversity of perspectives to draw more people in. everybody can contribute something different. he just happened to be a musician.
@@dakotaspruell1083 John was born in a shit home where his dad left and his mom died and he still managed to become the most famous person of the 1960s, a cultural icon, an inspiration for billions. He didn’t have to call for peace to maintain his celebrity. He could have easily just banged out slightly worse Beatle type songs, make million, and remain in the media’s good grace for the rest of his life like Paul did. But he didn’t, did he? He took a stand against war, Nixon, and American imperialism in a time where white celebrities simply did not do that. The peace movement needed a face, it needed structure, an ambassador with the ability to clearly explain their ideas and grievances. John stepped into that role and sacrificed everything for a movement he believed in and you’re hating on him because he was successful at pushing the message of peace?? Fuck you. Call Martin Luther King Jr a narcissist, call John Brown an egomaniac, call Andrea Constand just a money hungry attention seeker. I dare you because your backwards arguments won’t hold any water there but because John made a successful song all of sudden he’s a narcissist? Nope. No. I call bullshit.
That was great 👍
This interview unfortunately went south when Yoko starting talking at the end about making it jolly. Up until then John was holding his own with Ms. Emerson.
3 years late but I want to say I dont think he really was holding his own. Think he got backed into a corner as Gloria was totally dominating that argument. It was evidently clear that Gloria was verbally, maybe even factually, beating john with a stick
@@ronnie9077This Gloria, whoever she is (history seems to have rightfully forgotten about her), has no point at all here. All she manages is to get across as both one of Nixon's bootlickers *AND* highly arrogant and condenscending towards anybody who refused to lick Nixon's boots along with her. Some people here in the comments are saying she and John would have the same goals and are only trying to achieve it via different means, but this "interview" only makes her look like her only goal in life was to throw napalm on some kids in Vietnam while waving a flag and yelling, "MURRICAAAAA!"
This reporter needs to be in the Hall of Fame
For being a forgotten old hag.
For being a terrible person berating someone for not changing the world and being some magician that can just stop all politicians, sure.
@@ChristopherGray00 Um .......
If a musician told their main audience of 18-24 year olds, you know that demographic that most politicians would love to grab up for a lifetime if they could, that that politician was no good, untrustworthy, or not fulfilling their obligations in office, do you think that musician's fan base would listen? Do you think they'd listen to that musician before they listened to that politician.
A musician doesn't have to stop politicians. A musician only has to stop the people voting for them.
And you think Artists and Musicians have no power over Politic, or Religion. You're undervaluing the power of Art to influence Society. Gloria Emerson did not underestimate that power at all, she knew its potential to guide youth, opinion, and votes. She was just talking to a "Pop" artist, whose main impetus for writing songs with McCartney, was to get swimming pools. Money. That's why you see Harrison turning the charity event using music, as a working tool for assistance. Because he did it right. He hit all forms of media to push that concert, the live album, the film, and when media changed, that concert was available in all the updated technology. Since 1971, that concert has perpetually funded UNICEF for over 50 years. And the people that say he did it "wrong" are fools. He did it right. If you get chased by the US for taxes, when something clearly says it's a charity, you've become a target. Especially if you're on FBI lists of investigation (which he and Lennon both were). Especially if you're naming the US as the main culprit as to WHY they were so many people dying and refugee in Bangladesh. Because the USA funded the Pakistan army that did that shit to millions of people. And Harrison blatantly said this in advertising / promotion of the concert.
She's exasperated with an Artist who is making comical gestures imploring peace and change, but not making any real sacrifice, or enduring any hardship or punishment for doing so. Almost making it "entertainment purposes only." Muhummad Ali protested the Vietnam War or serving in it, and he most definitely got punished for doing so.
That's why she's giving Lennon a hard time. Because he's having an easy time being a "commie loving hippy."
@@DrTomoculus this. If not for you I would have had to comment something similar. I like Lennon a lot, and I think he had good intentions and purpose with these peace movements. But in this video and argument particularly, Gloria was indubitably right
I agree with you. John was not that great a person. He was so rich but let his ex-wife Cynthia penniless. She was so broke that Paul McCartney came to her aid.
This is amazing to me. A raw intense argument over very big global issues. Namely war.
Just because it's John Lennon, it doesn't mean he can't talk rubbishhere he is talking rubbish.
People were so apathetic after the "failure of the 60's"
Unfortunately, Gloria is the more credible one in the discussion because she was a war correspondent and experienced what they’re talking about firsthand. In her eyes, John and Yoko were foolish and naive - which maybe they were.
And yet her entire attitude toward the interview was itself self-aggrandizing. That accent of hers says everything about her disposition: elitist to the core.
Agreed
Tell me one thing she said that was a good point
All she did was insult them and willfully misinterpret everything they said
Gloria was just trying to make a name for herself off their backs. Total narcissist
@@JohnSmith-su3ze Yes a total narcissist whose journalism and reporting contradicted what the military were claiming were "body counts" in Vietnam, and the rising drug use amongst the soldiers. Which could have gotten her in a shitload of trouble, cuz it was about her ego. Yeah.
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@JohnSmith-su3ze
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Tell me one thing she said that was a good point"
"What does John Lennon know about Protests."
It's a very good question.
It’s strange to see how stubborn she could be. I was alive when this interview happened. I was 12 or 13 and I knew that he was trying to turn his fame into a chance to tell us to stop killing each other. No wonder they hated him. The war was ridiculous and brought only suffering to the world.
3:22 onward, that is what frightened them enough to get John rubbed out.
Exactly...👍🏻
I can't believe he was only 29 years old here. He has the gravitas of a 45-year-old.
No one except those 4 guys have ever lived thru that experience, ever. In the history of the world. They all aged fast.
@@loosilu Elvis did. Possibly moreso. Kurt Russel made a movie with him in the mid-sixties, when his popularity was waning from the stupid movies he was making, and he said every day on set there were thousands and thousands of girls on the edges of the set watching and screaming. If that was what it was like during the lowest point of his career.....Shelley Fabares said the same thing. She made 3 films with him in the mid-sixties, during that lowest period of his career. She tells a story to illustrate how mind-blowing it must have been for him during times of his career when he was uber-popular. She said she was on lot at Universal filming with him, and there was a lunch break. So she went to the lot commisar. It was huge --- there were about 700 people in there eating. These were other actors, stage people, prop people, stunt people. These were Hollywood insiders and employees who worked on the sets everyday. It was their job, and they were so accustomed to this that NOBODY was a star to them. They had seen all the big stars and it didn't excite them --- it was just their job and the stars were their colleagues. Suddenly she saw Elvis outside the door looking in through the door window. He was shielding his eyes from the sun so he could see through the reflection in the door. Suddenly, every single one of the 700 people eating stood up and began sprinting to the door. He saw the tsunamie of people coming for him and he had a panicked look and took off running. Her point was if this is how Hollywood insiders who were no longer phased by the famous reacted to Elvis during the lowest point in his career, can you imagine how fans reacted to him in the '50s and '70s?
@@HomeAtLast501 But they had it even worse than Elvis. That's the crazy thing.
@@loosilu You have no idea --- there is very little film available from the '50s of crowds reacting to Elvis, believe it or not. Plus, John Lennon could walk around NYC in the '70s without being bothered --- Elvis could not have done that in the '70s. I mean, George Harrison even played groupie when Elvis played Madison Square Garden in '73 and stood outside the Garden where Elvis' limousine entered and exited, and said he looked like "Vishnu".
@@loosilu Elvis couldn't even walk through the lobby of the Vegas Hilton without people losing their minds.
I know a woman from Memphis who said she was a little girl when Elvis was big. One day she was in the car with her mother, and Elvis pulled up to the red light next to them. Her MOTHER said to her, "That's the best-looking man I've ever seen in my life", and when the light turned green her mother engaged in a high-speed chase trying to follow Elvis. A grown woman with a child. This happened to him all the time.
John Lennon had that schizophrenic Vietnam vet come on his property and squat there. Elvis had fellow celebrities jump the gates at Graceland, such as Springsteen, and sprint up to the lawn to try to meet him.
It’s refreshing see people who are arguing, do so without name calling or screaming loudly at each other. We’ve lost the ability to argue different positions civilly.
By the time this video started the civility was on the ragged edge at best.
@notThatBad411 is this a joke?
That wasn't civil... lol
I love this debates , because ppl then gets to pushed their arguments to their very point tommake them realize if they know what theyre talking about
"Have you ever seen someone killing someone with a smile on his face?" Talk about naivety
She was fundamentally right though. Just because it sounds simple doesn't make it wrong.
@@DanAir There are many people who have killed with a smile on their face haha
@@Theakker3B but were they fundamentally happy people? That's the point she was making.
@@DanAir No, she wasn't right in the slightest. It was an idiotic thing to say. The war in Vietnam had absolutely nothing to do with how happy American soldiers were or how happy American protestors were for that matter. It's a statement so asinine, so apolitical and so divorced from reality, as well as condescending to the protesters who are actually taking the risks and putting their bodies on the line, that it functions as hard proof of Gloria's assertion that they have no understanding of the issue and are living in Never-never land.
@@allconsuminghat- We were talking about the quote, not about the wider context so yes, she was right.
He was very witty
Imagine calling a Beatle a "Fake"
@notThatBad411 What tf are you smoking?
@notThatBad411 stfu with your fake rumor
*internal screaming*
I mean the Beatles weren't perfect people.. I love john but he definitely needed people to disagree with him at times lol
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I love you John but when he said "When I get there ill sing it with them....when I get in" I though that was hilarious.
3:30
Too bad once he got in, he was never able to get out.
Ironically he was killed by a killer with a smile on his face.
You're savage. Yoko is a prick.
that was my immediate thought when she said that.
@@bluemanchestercity Cynthia was ugly, but Yoko was just a total downgrade
You're so right. It was ironic. That's why the hippy love peace bullshite doesn't work.
@@ProfessorKenneth he actually not right at all, Mark David Chapman was an extremely unhappy person.
This is the internet in 2021. Two people doing absolutely nothing, arguing with each other about which is doing more.
so true
I don't think you understand what they're arguing about or what people on the internet are usually arguing about lol
oh you can think. Isn't that nice.
Lennon and the reporter probably did more in ten years than the average person did in a lifetime
She was doing a lot. Not nothing. Better read about her.
She is pretty adversarial, unfortunately Yoko, she maybe well intended, but yes, many people in Rwanda, Bosnia, Syria, The Holocaust etc were happy to kill and torment. In genocide people go mad and lose their minds sadly. Trust me on that.
I support the anti war movement to the extent I can. However when you are confronted with a humanitarian catastrophe caused by people and violence...if it’s large enough and widespread enough....if 2 million people are going to be possible wiped out like Bosnia....you “may have to use force to stop people from getting killed”, it’s a harsh reality.
A lot of killers enjoy killing and smile..they may be unhappy..but so are non killers...
In contemporary times, they'd be bunching each other right now and it would go viral.
To be confronted by someone who didn't agree with him was a great shock to John. During this time he was surrounded by sycophants who agreed with anything he said. He was living in a bubble and had no real understanding of the world outside. Gloria was right to call him out and question his commitment to the peace process. Time proved she was right....within a year all his enthusiasm was gone .
Good observation.
.... You do know the amount of hate thrown against them during this time period? It's the stuff of legends.
I agree with you absolutely.
John puts forward a great argument. Yoko ruins it.
interviewer:makes john angry also interviewer:''WhY ArE YoU AnGry?'' 🤦♀
This woman is loving the camera on her..
John was spot on and dirrectly to the point. He knew what he was talking about and belived passionately in his believes.
@HP-tm4kj "He started all the bull crap we see from Hollywood and the music industry." I disagree. We (left/right) can't start anything. We have no choice. Since USSR collapsed and US war slaves lost their main enemy, the Money Makers said: "If you don't want to fight in big World wars, you will fight with yourself on your own territory". So our russian war slaves started war with their former USSR partners on their own territory, and USA started to prepare for civil war. Why you americans are upset about Hollywood, when so many people will die soon? Who cares about music industry?
beliefs
Sad that John was murdered and Emerson killed herself.
She had relatively long life and killed herself age 75 because she was diagnosed with Parkinson's.
I'm on Gloria's side.. I'd have walked out on Yoko too..
2:11--"Yes, folks."
First time being on Yoko's side, and it feels liberating
truly
I was about to say the same thing
Find book “YES YOKO ONO” - her art is magnificent.
I can't stop laughing when Yoko speaks😂😂
Why?
@@Greenballoffire They still think she broke up the Beatles so everything she does or says is stupid. I find Yoko to be very intelligent and doesn't get enough credit.
@@I....l....I Absolutely agree with you.
@@I....l....IIt’s all Paul fans that don’t care to see how it was Paul who pushed John, George and even Ringo away with his need for control and his songs that at the end both John and George didn’t care for. Ringo left first because Paul kept wanting to record his drum parts, George left after because Paul was telling him what to play and John left, temporarily perhaps like George said, because he wanted a change. Paul then told the press and sued the other 3. Where is Yoko in any of this?!
Yoko mimicking John's sardonic, passive aggressive attitude while not having two original brain cells to rub together truly is a sight to behold.
1:56 LMFAO! Yoko made her really seethe. She was ready to pull hair.
Killers are unhappy people. Yes.
How is she a killer?
There's nothing quite like British condescension.
Celebrities should just stay out of these issues and do what they do best. I remember an interview with Elvis where they asked him about his opinion of the Vietnam war. He said 'Honey, I'm just an entertainer so I prefer to keep my opinions on controversial topics to myself.' That's how Lennon handled things until Yoko got involved.
John was called out on his naivety and publicity stunts but he rather enjoyed it. Yoko’s comment at the end just shows her a$$.
2:09 Savage
Lennon was just fkn godlike here
John will be remembered for being a great musician and activist. Yoko made a great point of the “unhappy killers” (but in this day and age, there are way too many cases of happy killings). John was smart and witty throughout. I love this man.
Yoko's closing point was idiotic and I'm glad Gloria walked out as she said it. I would have too. It's completely detached from reality.
Yoko's statement was so idiotic is was actually jaw dropping.
He's remembered for doing dumb stunts and calling it activism.
at least he did something @@loosilu
@@aporue5893 But he could have done something real.
She was egging him on. She wanted to fire him up. She didn't get what she wanted so she walked out.
I've met Yoko Ono. I was working behind the bar at a festival she was endorsing, some weird stuff and she was signing copies of her book. She was friendly, seemed like a nice lady. Daft as a fucking brush.. but nice.
Are brushes daft?
Yeah. Pretty daft
@@jareroken9127 thanks dude :)
@notThatBad411 you sound completely insane
@notThatBad411 lol yeah I do, and it's not the bollocks you are talking...
History has been on John's side, however naive our parents thought he was at the time.
4:01 do you know how works??
You never see someone killing someone with a pancake on their head, so lets put pancakes on peoples heads to stop the war
Really shows how much more conservative everyone else is now.
John was a young guy. He came into a lot of money all at once and everyone wanted a piece of it.
“What have you grown up to?”
“Oh 29!”
Love u John my scouse hero