Wysteria has so much potential and unfortunately gets the sitting duck treatment. So much expansion waiting to happen with the world’s magic interpretations and it’s really up to the devs to do anything with it.
I think if it happens it unfortunately won't be soon. They just released a massive side world, and usually we only get one large update a year. Next year it'll have to be a main world, but maybe afterwards we'll get a Wysteria expansion 🤞🤞
@@AstralGarden101 I agree your theory lines up with* kingsisle’s development pattern. Great video by the way, the atmosphere and story telling is immaculate.
From what I understand, Myth and Storm are "opposites" in that they are respectively themed around Tradition and Mysticism vs Progress and Science respectively, but neither school sticks rigidly to those themes. Also you just have to look at Lore Spells to see that KingsIsle doesn't really stick to a School's theming very reliably.
I really love this interpretation of the wysterian schools. There was a line from this newest update that I feel is kinda relevant here. I can't remember the NPC's name nor the exact line, but it was the guy that introduces the magic wheel to us, after the tutorial he says to go back to ravenwood as he would hate to interrupt "our more traditional studies". So I can definitely see the wysterian schools as being a vaild, if a little unpopular, magics. On the topic of the Myth/Storm being opposites, I kinda had 2 thoughts why. One being that Storms can wipe away a populations, taking away their stories. On the other had, New stories can be made about why that storm happened and what those populations were like. The other reason was that myth and storm are like the arts and science. In my bubble of the world, the arts and Science has always been in direct competition, Even though i think they both need some creativity. Myth is being Creative through storytelling, while storm is being creative with machines that run on electricity. I also find it kinda funny that a Life weaving into Death gets the title of soul weaver. Doubt that's relevant but still funny. I really hope I'm coherent lol
Thanks for the feedback! I think you're kinda right about the Myth vs Storm thing, I think the official reasoning is that Storm uses logic (science) and Myth uses imagination (arts), but it doesn't hold up, because obviously the inventor's school uses imagination as well. It always felt to me like they just had those two schools "left over" and had to come up with an explanation after the fact for why they're opposites, hence why the reasoning feels a bit weak.
I understood the relationship between Storm and Myth as forms of destruction. Storm and Myth are the highest damaging schools of their trios, and demonstrate a solid, real form of destruction, versus a more imaginative, mythical form of destruction.
@@cheffpm I have never heard this one. Interesting analysis, but definitely not canon. Especially since Balance is the "Egyptian" school. None of the others have any direct relation to any countries or cultures.
I love this interpretation of Pigswick and it's teachings. I think it's a lot more fun and interesting for them to not just be completely wrong and for magic to just be more nuanced than the brilliant minds at either academies to really get it 100% right. I never liked the idea of Pigswik just being a knock off Ravenwood. It's much more interesting to look at the institution in ways like this. That whole magic fountain thing they got going on is still weird probably bs tho lol.
100%, The magic fountain is definitely BS, the game really drills that in, and it's valid. Then again, in terms of everything else, I think the world serves as a perfect opportunity for KingsIsle to expand their universe in a way that is strictly worldbuilding instead of having some crazy conflict going on everywhere. They could explain the universe, and how normal people live normal lives in the Spiral, which is something I think we desperately need to see more of.
I know I just said that yesterday, but after some thinking, we have actually heard of "Fountains of Life" that are all over the Spiral. It seems like they actually predate the Spiral itself, and nobody understands them, "not even Wizards" This makes me wonder if there's a possibility that the reason the narrator says the fountain at Pigswick looks like nothing to you is because you literally just don't understand it, so it looks like just some fountain to you.
@AstralGarden101 do you think the spells would be different or is it just their interpretation of it? Since we see it during the tournament it's just "typical magic spells"
First video? damn, this is a niche that has not been filled on this platform. Wiz lore probably isn't super popular but you have something here, man. Reminds me of fudgemuppet elder scrolls videos.
Honestly this does seem interesting as an outsider looking in, I think it might just be that as you said pigswick is just taking a different viewpoint on the same fundamental magical force. For example wildfire can be a destructive force that can cause a lot of collateral damage, it can also be used to craft things from ironworking to baking. Ice can come in the form of a nigh-immovable glacier, it can also come in the form of light frost on your windowsill that melts away with the slightest touch. For both the heat and the cold, they are fundamentally the same it's just that ravenwood and pigswick focus on different aspects in their philosophy. Hypothetically, somewhere either between the pigswick and Raven wood philosophies one could potentially suss out a universal theory of magic for the universe.
Very interesting video. I caught on to the Equilibrium being opposite of Chaos before. It actually made me think Balance and Myth should be opposite at Ravenwood when I was young. But this is a really cool theory and just increases my appreciation for Wysteria.
Boosting appreciation for Wysteria was the goal! It's my favorite world, and I wanted to make some content so that others could see it the way I see it. Probably more Wysteria content to come in the future :)
Technically shadow magic is the opposite of balance (if you fight a shadow creature in W101, they boost to balance) but that's not really here nor there. By the Roshambo and lore of The Spiral, Balance doesn't really have an opposite school. Also Wysteria is missed potential, why did KI go through the trouble for this entire world, just for it to be a "nothing world" or filler? It would be super cool and exciting to see what those schools offered to learn in comparison to Ravenwood.
I like how the characterizations of Fire and Ember dont conflict with each other, (other than how it characterizes its practioners). Fire as an Element can be both a force of destruction, as described in Ravenwood. As well as a force of Creation as described at Pigswig.
This is a good theory. Especially tempest, they could have easily gone with a "calm water" to be the opposite of storm but they decided to make it more than that. So i think in some way, it was intentional. That, and I also think that the school of pigswick academy is a critique on astrology and while to some degree its making fun of overly philosophical thinking without any practice, it is also challenging widely held beliefs in this universe. like saying well not everyone born with a certain blood type is predictable in a certain way. things like that. Perhaps both wigswick and ravenwood are both wrong in assuming a certain magic type produces a certain type of person.
All 3 of your lore videos are great. I can honestly say you opened my eyes to Wysteria and it’s philosophy. Keep them coming and longer videos would not be a bad thing. Thanks for sharing
very happy this popped up on my recommended! i’ve been looking for new wizard 101 content creators as i’ve just gotten back into the game as an adult. i definitely rushed through wysteria, but this video gave me a whole different perspective of it!! keep up the great work dude 💜
This was incredibly interesting. Thank you. Wysteria is definitely a controversial world, but I always liked the reinterpretation of the schools. The quest where you talk to all the professors is one of my favorites for this reason. Nice to see someone actually delve into the schools' philosophies. It would've been really cool if they had given the Ravenwood students a spell at the end of the world, to demonstrate this difference in interpretation. Great video Astral!
Heironimus feels like a diet Shadow scholar who hasn’t found his niche yet, he needs to have a talk with Sofia DarkSide, Elana DarkSun and Velma Von Venkman for some guidance imo. Because trying to be Chaos with a total lack of physical application in creation is not what Greek Chaos would do, or the fact that at the time of Wysteria arc; Spider’s Chaos heart is the exact thing that gives the Spiral Order to stay afloat. If they ever made a Wysteria come-back I wonder how much that school would be impacted after Arc 3 when Shadow magic was spilling out like crazy I think the main contrast btwn Myth and Chaos lies in the fact that Myth gets its power from the old stories, per Emperor of Mooshu in Solar Arc, and Chaos is trying to create something new but it feels incomplete without the primordial fact of Shadow’s Chaos in it, and that to make it so you must have theory be put into action!
This is so well made and intriguing. I’m shocked that you have no other videos! I hope to see more of your theories in the future, this was excellently crafted. ❤️
Loved this video, definitely a very interesting idea to explore, and I agree with your reasoning and explanation. I wish KI would go back and revisit some of this stuff like they are doing with selenopolis right now. Great video either way!!
This was soooo good and SO interesting to watch. I always loved Wysteria and definitely wish they expand the storyline to go back there. Amazing video!!!
Great video!! Was surprised there was no more content from you cause I really wanted to see what else you had made, assuming you had been at this for a while. Can’t wait for the 2nd video
Goddamn, first video is knocking it out the park with the editing! Amazingly thoughtful, looking forward to seeing more! Also I am into the idea of having them integrated into spell weaving, cuz they are not completely separate, but adjacent to our current schools, and could make for a very interesting system down the road.
wysteria is my fav world and Im rly sad we never actually see these schools being used. Imagine how cool it would be if we started fights and enemies casted symbols and spells we never saw before and then learned about their schools later. Loved the vid and I hope to see more soon :) Sub from me
The schools of wysteria is the schools of ravenwood but with the philosofies of the wheel shifted. Ember is fire with ice philosofy. Frost has the philosofy of storm and tempest then obviously gets the philosofy of fire. Earth is life with the philosofy of death, spirit is death with the philosofy of myth (the things that happen AFTER death) and chaos then obviously gets the philosofy of life
I've never played this game but your lore video is really neat and I can imagine that, in a real world, there *would* in fact be a school that focuses on different philosophies and aspects of magic. If the player's school is the one that teaches spellcasting and battle magic, then the parody-named school would be an academic centre of magical research that propels magical understanding forwards. Especially since the wealthy students will be in a financial position to perform personal research, and support large scale projects done through their old school, after graduation.
So what do you think each school would be gameplay wise in terms of there roles. The only things that can come to my mind would be Tempest would be an all rounded school. Ember maybe healing and Frost maybe Glace Canon.
Frost would definitely be a glass cannon. I think Spirit would be really minion-heavy, and Equilibrium would have a lot of debuffs. There's a lot to be said about each, so maybe I'll make a video about it some time. I've definitely thought about it a lot.
ravenwood teaches you how to use the tank, pigswick teaches you the how and why that tank operates. honestly it is one of the best aspects of the lore, as if the two schools (or really anyone else) worked together they could make magic that is vastly better than anything currently around, with pigswick graduates telling the how, while the ravenwood and others do the actual magic that most of the teachers in pigswick are from species that aren't great at their own magic but ARE great at understanding it as it flows in them is a massive advantage to teaching others to not see magic as some mystic force but something you can truly understand with study
Balance and Equilibriums differences, they literally do equal or balance out each other. Balance has a focus on the chaotic nature of combining the elements and spirits, whilst Equilibrium tips the scales back with complete order separate from everything else. Quite fitting. However, with Balance originating from Krokotopia, specifically the Order of The Fang creating it, it is told how they wove all of the other practices into each other to create balance magic, in order to combat the Tuts. Here's something that might break the idea of Equilibrium being an at all appropriate way of studying Balance magic, it's hilariously from Age of Ultron, "They think order and chaos are opposites." We view things as chaotic when they don't go how we expect them to, but that's how it did, the law of nature deemed it so, and that is in essence balance. Why yes, I am a Balance Wiz, how could you tell?
A return to Wysteria's schools of magic, and their perspective on magic is well overdue with archmastery and school weaving coming about, hopefully Ki actually listens on this one for once
Myth as the school of chaos was always how I remembered its advantage against balance. I thought that was part of the Myth school's lore, not a teaching from a side world with... questionable professors and academia. Guess Pigswick Academy is a better school than I thought!
i was OBSESSED with pigswick when i was a kid. i was so upset that there wasn't more to do or learn. i wanted to be able to study their magic and learn their spells. i would go back there constantly just to look around and pretend i was a student there. eight year old me would've never stopped thinking about this theory if it were made back then. i hope at some point the devs expand more on this. it feels like such a waste to have a place like wysteria with a whole school and pretty much nothing to do after one quest line, other than cantrips i guess. anyway i love this video and i really really hope pigswick will get the comeback it deserves.
I love wiz content! Ive been playing since release and ive seen this game develop from a 4 world game to a 10+ world game. Plesse tell the awesome stories of these worlds for us. New subscriber thats excited for more of your content showing lore of wizard101
I love when you were discussing how the schools teach the opposite of the Ravenwood schools philosophies you didn't mention Spirit. That's prolly cause it's the singular school that is a genuine mirror of it's Ravenwood equivalent, Death. And Edna doesn't seem entirely incompetent like most of the other teachers either, I actually love her.
Didn't want to drag the video on, since those two are indeed the most similar at face value, but the difference is that Death focuses on things that are dead or relate to the process of death (skeletons for example), while Spirit focuses on actually the spirit plane, the afterlife. Depending on its practitioner/teacher, I'm sure Spirit totally could just as well relate to angels, friendly spirits, etc. (Obviously death cannot unless they're related to death in some way) I think it would be a really cool school to explore if it was taught by someone who focuses on positive spirits. I would expect the school to play a lot more like Myth and Balance do, with lots of minions and utility instead of damage and drain.
Amazing work!! I love your video, I can't wait to see what more you have to discuss!! I've said this before to other channels, but have you considered making Wizard101 What If videos as well as theories?? (Like what if the Wizard joined Morganthe or what if Malistaire won, etc...)
I like this Theory about Wysteria having a deeper meaning behind the schools, but there's just one issue; Grandfather Spider. Grandfather Spider completely throws a wrench into Chaos magic as the equivalence of Myth magic. KI didn't think that far ahead about Spider and Raven representing Chaos and Order which in a way destroys Wysteria's lore and credibility as it sets up this idea of Spider only hating Bartleby, which couldn't be farther from the truth. It would make perfect sense if you're starting out Polaris but KI already knew what to do with Spider. I do believe Wysteria has some sort of merit to the schools as it was able to maintain the Spiral Cup, which Ravenwood couldn't achieve until we came along. It's a sham school for sure, but it certainly has an idea of what the schools truly mean as Roshambo continues to evolve the schools and begins to invalidate Ravenwood's description of the schools.
@@moonquartzs Spider's Chaos and Wysteria's Chaos don't have to be the same just because they share a name. We can say with near certainty that they're separate.
Would be cool of at the start of the game you could choose whoch school ro enroll in and start there or transfer to ravenwood (so quests make sense) but have your home world unlocked. This would also make it so ypu could be differnt species if you want.
Algorithm, thank Bartleby that you finally recognize my love of Kingsisle. I insta-subbed to your channel because Wizard101 and Pirate101 lore doesn't get the coverage it deserves. Edit: I'm surprised you have so much attention, but I'm not complaining. That just makes you peak
Sounds like Wysteria teaches more on civilian jobs but well Wizard City seems to be more focused on Military Jobs. That also explains how each school gets their recruit. If you stretch it out, the player character is technically “ drafted”.
Really good video! Never really thought about Wysteria like that before and the points you brought up were very interesting. I hope that you visit worlds like Khrysalis with your lore videos eventually 👀.
My impression of Myth and Storm is that Myth is more like on the mental/conceptual side and Storm is on the physical. Myth is more about aesthetic form. Storm is more about practical function. Myth is more about stories and art. Storm is more about devices and inventions. This makes them more like the duality of Pigswick's Spirit and Earth, rather than the dyad of Chaos and Equilibrium.(Or Tempestus, which could still somewhat be seen as a counter to Chaos) It seems in practical application, Ravenwood's schools are more successful, which probably means its theories are more accurate. (Additional evidence could be seen in the enemy school weaknesses/resistances, but how canon such game-play aspects are can be questionable, especially since Pirate101 exists.) However, even if Ravenwood's theories are more accurate, that does not mean they are complete. The school philosophies may be applied more broadly than the fields associated with them, if Myth/Storm and Spirit/Earth really are counterparts.(Assuming there is any truth to the Pigswick theories.) If this is the case, then would the philosophy be the school or would the associated field be the school?
The thing is Pigswick Ember professor and Ravenwoods Fire school summary are essentially one and the same. I olay Pyromancer and I intend to get some life school healing magics to keep me alive in battle.
I never thought about Myth and storm and "why" they are opposites but now I'm really curious about the exact reason. and funny thing about that is when I first heard the question I thought "well I know why I do" but then I typed it out realized my reasoning is... a little strange. I thought of Myth as "asleep"/"fake" while Storm was "awake"/"real". storm wakes up and reveals myth's being fake, and myth somehow concealed storm's reality and put it back to sleep. rereading it I feel like it makes sense but at the same time it feels weird, thanks for asking that question! it's really interesting to think on something I'd never even considered strange about the game.
This was such a good video! Clearly someone's been studying philosophy! 😂 No but seriously well done! This theory actually made Wysteria interesting to me
Absolutely love this after just doing another walk through of Wysteria! My only thought is that it's stated in game that Myth and Storm are opposites because Myth is the school of Creation whilst Storm is the School of Destruction. Otherwise love the video!
@@camerongiles6650 Does it say that? Storm is the inventor's school, it certainly seems more creative than destructive. I saw one of the original game writers say that they had to make them opposites after they were created, so their best explanation is that storm vs myth is logic vs imagination. I would just argue you need imagination to be an inventor as well.
I always interpreted the contrast between Storm and Myth as corporeal destruction vs incorporeal creation. The raw and physical destructive power of a force of nature contrasting with the intangible thoughts/ dreams created by sentient beings that can persist beyond physical existence.
Earth magic would be so fun to play, “From Earth came all things, and eventually, all shall return to its clutches” - A school based around "reclaiming," with lots of steal charms/wards would be awesome.
To me it sounds like ravenwood focuses on the primordial side of magic. It's raw, it's powerful and it can get away from you. The academy however distilled that great nature into something containable
my thought is that each of the wystarian schools teach combination of 3 Ravenwood schools. the school of chaos teaches fire, myth, and storm spells, wile order teaches death, life, and frost spells these spells being spells to like storms, creations, and fire. fore the chaos and uncontrollability of the spells. wile order teaches spells like healing, traps, and control undead spells. when you think of it that way it makes since why most Wystarian'n wizards are not as power full it's because they are more rounded are are the Hogworts of wizard 101 wile Ravenwood is the Durmstrang teaching specific spells and wanting you to be power full in your school.
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I always thought the Wysteria professors should at least teach a spell. Would give a reason to do Wysteria too
The reason is bc the world is beautiful and the story is fun 💪
@@AstralGarden101 sounds like a fat skip 😂
@@DaGoat1077 for people that dont actually enjoy the game yeah
Agreed.
@Alex-pq9rm while I enjoyed the world I would have preferred a spell reward of some kind
Wysteria has so much potential and unfortunately gets the sitting duck treatment. So much expansion waiting to happen with the world’s magic interpretations and it’s really up to the devs to do anything with it.
I think if it happens it unfortunately won't be soon. They just released a massive side world, and usually we only get one large update a year. Next year it'll have to be a main world, but maybe afterwards we'll get a Wysteria expansion 🤞🤞
@@AstralGarden101 I agree your theory lines up with* kingsisle’s development pattern. Great video by the way, the atmosphere and story telling is immaculate.
The writing needs to get there first. I think with the end of selenopolis we will find out who else like us is out there.
@@mi12no We already know, Selena Gomez (jkjk, though she IS canon as is Nick Jonus).
From what I understand, Myth and Storm are "opposites" in that they are respectively themed around Tradition and Mysticism vs Progress and Science respectively, but neither school sticks rigidly to those themes.
Also you just have to look at Lore Spells to see that KingsIsle doesn't really stick to a School's theming very reliably.
Yeah, Myth is about the past cause they are the stories of long ago, Storm is about the now cause lighting never strikes twice.
@@GaleGrim Myth is about Minions!
@necrocraftronix5522 and those minions are all based on Mythology, ancient legends and creatures of lore.
I really love this interpretation of the wysterian schools. There was a line from this newest update that I feel is kinda relevant here. I can't remember the NPC's name nor the exact line, but it was the guy that introduces the magic wheel to us, after the tutorial he says to go back to ravenwood as he would hate to interrupt "our more traditional studies". So I can definitely see the wysterian schools as being a vaild, if a little unpopular, magics.
On the topic of the Myth/Storm being opposites, I kinda had 2 thoughts why. One being that Storms can wipe away a populations, taking away their stories. On the other had, New stories can be made about why that storm happened and what those populations were like. The other reason was that myth and storm are like the arts and science. In my bubble of the world, the arts and Science has always been in direct competition, Even though i think they both need some creativity. Myth is being Creative through storytelling, while storm is being creative with machines that run on electricity.
I also find it kinda funny that a Life weaving into Death gets the title of soul weaver. Doubt that's relevant but still funny.
I really hope I'm coherent lol
Thanks for the feedback! I think you're kinda right about the Myth vs Storm thing, I think the official reasoning is that Storm uses logic (science) and Myth uses imagination (arts), but it doesn't hold up, because obviously the inventor's school uses imagination as well. It always felt to me like they just had those two schools "left over" and had to come up with an explanation after the fact for why they're opposites, hence why the reasoning feels a bit weak.
I understood the relationship between Storm and Myth as forms of destruction. Storm and Myth are the highest damaging schools of their trios, and demonstrate a solid, real form of destruction, versus a more imaginative, mythical form of destruction.
My fav wiz schools are Physics and Libel
this probably isnt a lore reason, but i thought myth n storm were opposites because theyre were greek and egypt respectively
@@cheffpm I have never heard this one. Interesting analysis, but definitely not canon. Especially since Balance is the "Egyptian" school. None of the others have any direct relation to any countries or cultures.
I love this interpretation of Pigswick and it's teachings. I think it's a lot more fun and interesting for them to not just be completely wrong and for magic to just be more nuanced than the brilliant minds at either academies to really get it 100% right. I never liked the idea of Pigswik just being a knock off Ravenwood. It's much more interesting to look at the institution in ways like this. That whole magic fountain thing they got going on is still weird probably bs tho lol.
100%, The magic fountain is definitely BS, the game really drills that in, and it's valid. Then again, in terms of everything else, I think the world serves as a perfect opportunity for KingsIsle to expand their universe in a way that is strictly worldbuilding instead of having some crazy conflict going on everywhere. They could explain the universe, and how normal people live normal lives in the Spiral, which is something I think we desperately need to see more of.
I know I just said that yesterday, but after some thinking, we have actually heard of "Fountains of Life" that are all over the Spiral. It seems like they actually predate the Spiral itself, and nobody understands them, "not even Wizards"
This makes me wonder if there's a possibility that the reason the narrator says the fountain at Pigswick looks like nothing to you is because you literally just don't understand it, so it looks like just some fountain to you.
@AstralGarden101 do you think the spells would be different or is it just their interpretation of it? Since we see it during the tournament it's just "typical magic spells"
@@warmfridge856 If KingsIsle had the budget for it, Wysteria 100% would've had unique spells, especially with how different the magic systems are
Wysteria is one of my favorite worlds and i hate seeing it get slept on all the time. this video does my favorite aspect justice! great vid!
First video? damn, this is a niche that has not been filled on this platform. Wiz lore probably isn't super popular but you have something here, man. Reminds me of fudgemuppet elder scrolls videos.
Goal accomplished then. I love Fudgemuppet :)
I love the theory videos :)
I love the video!
Would be really cool if they did a "horde and alliance" like thing with it.
They should have a team up arc with wysteria. I think it’s going to come fairly soon unless there’s a civil war arc before then
I never see lore videos for wiz, keep them coming!
Honestly this does seem interesting as an outsider looking in, I think it might just be that as you said pigswick is just taking a different viewpoint on the same fundamental magical force. For example wildfire can be a destructive force that can cause a lot of collateral damage, it can also be used to craft things from ironworking to baking. Ice can come in the form of a nigh-immovable glacier, it can also come in the form of light frost on your windowsill that melts away with the slightest touch. For both the heat and the cold, they are fundamentally the same it's just that ravenwood and pigswick focus on different aspects in their philosophy.
Hypothetically, somewhere either between the pigswick and Raven wood philosophies one could potentially suss out a universal theory of magic for the universe.
I rly hate it that Wysteria didn’t get huge expansion and at least was spell from each proffesor.
Very interesting video. I caught on to the Equilibrium being opposite of Chaos before. It actually made me think Balance and Myth should be opposite at Ravenwood when I was young. But this is a really cool theory and just increases my appreciation for Wysteria.
Boosting appreciation for Wysteria was the goal! It's my favorite world, and I wanted to make some content so that others could see it the way I see it. Probably more Wysteria content to come in the future :)
Same actually
Technically shadow magic is the opposite of balance (if you fight a shadow creature in W101, they boost to balance) but that's not really here nor there. By the Roshambo and lore of The Spiral, Balance doesn't really have an opposite school. Also Wysteria is missed potential, why did KI go through the trouble for this entire world, just for it to be a "nothing world" or filler? It would be super cool and exciting to see what those schools offered to learn in comparison to Ravenwood.
I Love the ambience of Wystera!
This was such an interesting discussion on Pigswick's magic system! I would love to see more theory videos like!!
I like how the characterizations of Fire and Ember dont conflict with each other, (other than how it characterizes its practioners). Fire as an Element can be both a force of destruction, as described in Ravenwood. As well as a force of Creation as described at Pigswig.
This is a good theory. Especially tempest, they could have easily gone with a "calm water" to be the opposite of storm but they decided to make it more than that. So i think in some way, it was intentional. That, and I also think that the school of pigswick academy is a critique on astrology and while to some degree its making fun of overly philosophical thinking without any practice, it is also challenging widely held beliefs in this universe. like saying well not everyone born with a certain blood type is predictable in a certain way. things like that. Perhaps both wigswick and ravenwood are both wrong in assuming a certain magic type produces a certain type of person.
For sure. To be honest, the opposition of the status quo is enough for me to like them on its own.
All 3 of your lore videos are great. I can honestly say you opened my eyes to Wysteria and it’s philosophy. Keep them coming and longer videos would not be a bad thing. Thanks for sharing
very happy this popped up on my recommended! i’ve been looking for new wizard 101 content creators as i’ve just gotten back into the game as an adult. i definitely rushed through wysteria, but this video gave me a whole different perspective of it!! keep up the great work dude 💜
This was incredibly interesting. Thank you. Wysteria is definitely a controversial world, but I always liked the reinterpretation of the schools. The quest where you talk to all the professors is one of my favorites for this reason. Nice to see someone actually delve into the schools' philosophies.
It would've been really cool if they had given the Ravenwood students a spell at the end of the world, to demonstrate this difference in interpretation. Great video Astral!
I THOUGHT THE SAME EXACT THING AS I WENT THRU IT!!! I'm so glad I'm not the only one that thght this ty for making this video!
I hardly find any wizard1o1 content I enjoy, thank you oh so very much!
Heironimus feels like a diet Shadow scholar who hasn’t found his niche yet, he needs to have a talk with Sofia DarkSide, Elana DarkSun and Velma Von Venkman for some guidance imo.
Because trying to be Chaos with a total lack of physical application in creation is not what Greek Chaos would do, or the fact that at the time of Wysteria arc; Spider’s Chaos heart is the exact thing that gives the Spiral Order to stay afloat.
If they ever made a Wysteria come-back I wonder how much that school would be impacted after Arc 3 when Shadow magic was spilling out like crazy
I think the main contrast btwn Myth and Chaos lies in the fact that Myth gets its power from the old stories, per Emperor of Mooshu in Solar Arc, and Chaos is trying to create something new but it feels incomplete without the primordial fact of Shadow’s Chaos in it, and that to make it so you must have theory be put into action!
This is so well made and intriguing. I’m shocked that you have no other videos! I hope to see more of your theories in the future, this was excellently crafted. ❤️
Loved this video, definitely a very interesting idea to explore, and I agree with your reasoning and explanation. I wish KI would go back and revisit some of this stuff like they are doing with selenopolis right now. Great video either way!!
Finally someone in the community making lore videos again! Keep making these, please. I can't get enough!
i never say them the way the game tells you too see it. i always saw it as a new way to harness the magic of the spiral
this is actually really good i hope more people see this video
i love this interpretation!!! you’re doing amazing!! can’t wait to see more !
This was soooo good and SO interesting to watch. I always loved Wysteria and definitely wish they expand the storyline to go back there. Amazing video!!!
Wow, I love these lore type videos, please give us more content like this,
Great video!! Was surprised there was no more content from you cause I really wanted to see what else you had made, assuming you had been at this for a while. Can’t wait for the 2nd video
Second video in the works right now, the Selenopolis update gave me a lot to work with. :)
Goddamn, first video is knocking it out the park with the editing! Amazingly thoughtful, looking forward to seeing more!
Also I am into the idea of having them integrated into spell weaving, cuz they are not completely separate, but adjacent to our current schools, and could make for a very interesting system down the road.
@@misterbuck1242 Imagine being a Life wizard weaving Spirit
wysteria is my fav world and Im rly sad we never actually see these schools being used. Imagine how cool it would be if we started fights and enemies casted symbols and spells we never saw before and then learned about their schools later. Loved the vid and I hope to see more soon :) Sub from me
The schools of wysteria is the schools of ravenwood but with the philosofies of the wheel shifted. Ember is fire with ice philosofy. Frost has the philosofy of storm and tempest then obviously gets the philosofy of fire. Earth is life with the philosofy of death, spirit is death with the philosofy of myth (the things that happen AFTER death) and chaos then obviously gets the philosofy of life
I've never played this game but your lore video is really neat and I can imagine that, in a real world, there *would* in fact be a school that focuses on different philosophies and aspects of magic. If the player's school is the one that teaches spellcasting and battle magic, then the parody-named school would be an academic centre of magical research that propels magical understanding forwards. Especially since the wealthy students will be in a financial position to perform personal research, and support large scale projects done through their old school, after graduation.
So what do you think each school would be gameplay wise in terms of there roles. The only things that can come to my mind would be Tempest would be an all rounded school. Ember maybe healing and Frost maybe Glace Canon.
Frost would definitely be a glass cannon. I think Spirit would be really minion-heavy, and Equilibrium would have a lot of debuffs. There's a lot to be said about each, so maybe I'll make a video about it some time. I've definitely thought about it a lot.
@@AstralGarden101A video like that would be great like a part 2
@@AstralGarden101we need the video it’s about that time
ravenwood teaches you how to use the tank, pigswick teaches you the how and why that tank operates.
honestly it is one of the best aspects of the lore, as if the two schools (or really anyone else) worked together they could make magic that is vastly better than anything currently around, with pigswick graduates telling the how, while the ravenwood and others do the actual magic
that most of the teachers in pigswick are from species that aren't great at their own magic but ARE great at understanding it as it flows in them is a massive advantage to teaching others to not see magic as some mystic force but something you can truly understand with study
There's also a thing where some of them seem to be rotated. Like there version of myth seems to have more in common with storm then myth itself...
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This video is awesome! I hope the writers see this and expand on it
I dont play Wizard 101, but the way you describe everything is really cool! Might try playing it haha
same hahah ^-^
Balance and Equilibriums differences, they literally do equal or balance out each other. Balance has a focus on the chaotic nature of combining the elements and spirits, whilst Equilibrium tips the scales back with complete order separate from everything else. Quite fitting. However, with Balance originating from Krokotopia, specifically the Order of The Fang creating it, it is told how they wove all of the other practices into each other to create balance magic, in order to combat the Tuts. Here's something that might break the idea of Equilibrium being an at all appropriate way of studying Balance magic, it's hilariously from Age of Ultron, "They think order and chaos are opposites." We view things as chaotic when they don't go how we expect them to, but that's how it did, the law of nature deemed it so, and that is in essence balance.
Why yes, I am a Balance Wiz, how could you tell?
great video! really well done and interesting theory
This was a great video and a great introduction to your future content! You got another sub. I just love Wizard101 lore videos
A return to Wysteria's schools of magic, and their perspective on magic is well overdue with archmastery and school weaving coming about, hopefully Ki actually listens on this one for once
very very cool video i don't know if i've ever seen a wiz video that made me feel like this one did. keep it up!!!
I like your spin on Pigswick!
I want confirmation from devs. That would be awesome. Great video.
Myth as the school of chaos was always how I remembered its advantage against balance. I thought that was part of the Myth school's lore, not a teaching from a side world with... questionable professors and academia. Guess Pigswick Academy is a better school than I thought!
Well done man! Looking forward to more🔥
Loved the vid, looking forward to more :)
thanks! incredible profile pic hahaha
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i was OBSESSED with pigswick when i was a kid. i was so upset that there wasn't more to do or learn. i wanted to be able to study their magic and learn their spells. i would go back there constantly just to look around and pretend i was a student there. eight year old me would've never stopped thinking about this theory if it were made back then. i hope at some point the devs expand more on this. it feels like such a waste to have a place like wysteria with a whole school and pretty much nothing to do after one quest line, other than cantrips i guess. anyway i love this video and i really really hope pigswick will get the comeback it deserves.
I love wiz content! Ive been playing since release and ive seen this game develop from a 4 world game to a 10+ world game. Plesse tell the awesome stories of these worlds for us. New subscriber thats excited for more of your content showing lore of wizard101
I love when you were discussing how the schools teach the opposite of the Ravenwood schools philosophies you didn't mention Spirit. That's prolly cause it's the singular school that is a genuine mirror of it's Ravenwood equivalent, Death.
And Edna doesn't seem entirely incompetent like most of the other teachers either, I actually love her.
Didn't want to drag the video on, since those two are indeed the most similar at face value, but the difference is that Death focuses on things that are dead or relate to the process of death (skeletons for example), while Spirit focuses on actually the spirit plane, the afterlife. Depending on its practitioner/teacher, I'm sure Spirit totally could just as well relate to angels, friendly spirits, etc. (Obviously death cannot unless they're related to death in some way) I think it would be a really cool school to explore if it was taught by someone who focuses on positive spirits. I would expect the school to play a lot more like Myth and Balance do, with lots of minions and utility instead of damage and drain.
What a banger of a first video
I am surprised this is your first video, its so well made!
Wysteria is my favorite world and I'm so happy to see someone do a deep dive on it!
Possibly more to come!
W video, keep them coming :3
You explained this perfectly. If w101 focused more on this topic it would’ve made the world more interesting
All I remember from this game was that if you played for free you couldn’t get past lvl 12
Awesome video!! Really cool idea i would of never considered
This was an amazing video.
Honestly, this makes way too much sense. I wonder if someone at KI was waiting for someone like you to pick up on it all
I really liked this theory :) thank you !
Amazing work!! I love your video, I can't wait to see what more you have to discuss!! I've said this before to other channels, but have you considered making Wizard101 What If videos as well as theories?? (Like what if the Wizard joined Morganthe or what if Malistaire won, etc...)
Ohh, like alternate history? I totally would if the right topic comes up :)
@AstralGarden101 I could see you becoming big on here! I'm excited to see how you progress
@@Ice_theurgist thanks :)
I like this Theory about Wysteria having a deeper meaning behind the schools, but there's just one issue; Grandfather Spider.
Grandfather Spider completely throws a wrench into Chaos magic as the equivalence of Myth magic. KI didn't think that far ahead about Spider and Raven representing Chaos and Order which in a way destroys Wysteria's lore and credibility as it sets up this idea of Spider only hating Bartleby, which couldn't be farther from the truth. It would make perfect sense if you're starting out Polaris but KI already knew what to do with Spider.
I do believe Wysteria has some sort of merit to the schools as it was able to maintain the Spiral Cup, which Ravenwood couldn't achieve until we came along. It's a sham school for sure, but it certainly has an idea of what the schools truly mean as Roshambo continues to evolve the schools and begins to invalidate Ravenwood's description of the schools.
@@moonquartzs Spider's Chaos and Wysteria's Chaos don't have to be the same just because they share a name. We can say with near certainty that they're separate.
Would be cool of at the start of the game you could choose whoch school ro enroll in and start there or transfer to ravenwood (so quests make sense) but have your home world unlocked. This would also make it so ypu could be differnt species if you want.
Ravenwood is where you get your MD, pigswick is where you get your PhD
for a first video this is fire
Algorithm, thank Bartleby that you finally recognize my love of Kingsisle. I insta-subbed to your channel because Wizard101 and Pirate101 lore doesn't get the coverage it deserves.
Edit: I'm surprised you have so much attention, but I'm not complaining. That just makes you peak
I love this!!! ❤
I love this theory! Lovely stuff
Wow, incredible. Simply incredible!
Sounds like Wysteria teaches more on civilian jobs but well Wizard City seems to be more focused on Military Jobs. That also explains how each school gets their recruit.
If you stretch it out, the player character is technically “ drafted”.
Randomly got back into the game again and then this video popped up; more please!
Really good video! Never really thought about Wysteria like that before and the points you brought up were very interesting. I hope that you visit worlds like Khrysalis with your lore videos eventually 👀.
My impression of Myth and Storm is that Myth is more like on the mental/conceptual side and Storm is on the physical. Myth is more about aesthetic form. Storm is more about practical function. Myth is more about stories and art. Storm is more about devices and inventions. This makes them more like the duality of Pigswick's Spirit and Earth, rather than the dyad of Chaos and Equilibrium.(Or Tempestus, which could still somewhat be seen as a counter to Chaos)
It seems in practical application, Ravenwood's schools are more successful, which probably means its theories are more accurate. (Additional evidence could be seen in the enemy school weaknesses/resistances, but how canon such game-play aspects are can be questionable, especially since Pirate101 exists.)
However, even if Ravenwood's theories are more accurate, that does not mean they are complete. The school philosophies may be applied more broadly than the fields associated with them, if Myth/Storm and Spirit/Earth really are counterparts.(Assuming there is any truth to the Pigswick theories.) If this is the case, then would the philosophy be the school or would the associated field be the school?
Idk why this was recommended to me but it was very entertaining
THIS WAS AMAZING
The thing is Pigswick Ember professor and Ravenwoods Fire school summary are essentially one and the same. I olay Pyromancer and I intend to get some life school healing magics to keep me alive in battle.
I wonder how they’d interpret the astral schools or shadow magic
nice vid man!
I never thought about Myth and storm and "why" they are opposites but now I'm really curious about the exact reason. and funny thing about that is when I first heard the question I thought "well I know why I do" but then I typed it out realized my reasoning is... a little strange. I thought of Myth as "asleep"/"fake" while Storm was "awake"/"real". storm wakes up and reveals myth's being fake, and myth somehow concealed storm's reality and put it back to sleep.
rereading it I feel like it makes sense but at the same time it feels weird, thanks for asking that question! it's really interesting to think on something I'd never even considered strange about the game.
This was such a good video! Clearly someone's been studying philosophy! 😂 No but seriously well done! This theory actually made Wysteria interesting to me
Glad you enjoyed! I'm a big philosophy and sociology nerd, and I just love Wysteria. Had to make the case for it hahaha
Absolutely love this after just doing another walk through of Wysteria! My only thought is that it's stated in game that Myth and Storm are opposites because Myth is the school of Creation whilst Storm is the School of Destruction. Otherwise love the video!
@@camerongiles6650 Does it say that? Storm is the inventor's school, it certainly seems more creative than destructive. I saw one of the original game writers say that they had to make them opposites after they were created, so their best explanation is that storm vs myth is logic vs imagination. I would just argue you need imagination to be an inventor as well.
Amazing first video
Dragonspyre academy would've been an excellent place to learn new spells.
I’ve been saying this!!!! Awesome first vid, you got a follow from me => would love to see more!
I always interpreted the contrast between Storm and Myth as corporeal destruction vs incorporeal creation. The raw and physical destructive power of a force of nature contrasting with the intangible thoughts/ dreams created by sentient beings that can persist beyond physical existence.
Wizard101 has so many little nuggets of esoterica.
Indeed. I'm hoping to demystify some of it through this channel :)
Awesome video!
8:59 clean
tempest magic and earth magic sound awesome
Earth magic would be so fun to play, “From Earth came all things, and eventually, all shall return to its clutches” - A school based around "reclaiming," with lots of steal charms/wards would be awesome.
Wysteria sounds like a Scholar's school & Ravenwood sounds like a physical school
I love this video a lot pls more lore videos
Leaving a sub, need more of this ❤
More soon! As soon as I clear this sinus infection... ugh
Wysteria being your favorite world is crazy
To me it sounds like ravenwood focuses on the primordial side of magic. It's raw, it's powerful and it can get away from you. The academy however distilled that great nature into something containable
my thought is that each of the wystarian schools teach combination of 3 Ravenwood schools. the school of chaos teaches fire, myth, and storm spells, wile order teaches death, life, and frost spells these spells being spells to like storms, creations, and fire. fore the chaos and uncontrollability of the spells. wile order teaches spells like healing, traps, and control undead spells.
when you think of it that way it makes since why most Wystarian'n wizards are not as power full it's because they are more rounded are are the Hogworts of wizard 101 wile Ravenwood is the Durmstrang teaching specific spells and wanting you to be power full in your school.
Great video