[What-If 15] Xeno Vegito VS Gogeta (Limit-Break Super Saiyan 4/Super Saiyan Blue Evolution Kaioken)

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • I recommend you watch [What-If] #12 - Gogeta VS Jiren before this, as this is a direct continuation of it. I am one person making these animations, feel free to support me on Patreon: / hyourinjutsu
    *DISCLAIMER: I do NOT own any of the sprites or music used in this video, all credit goes to their respective owners.*
    ~~- Credits: -~~
    ~Artists~
    orumaitoobeso - Gogeta Blue SWL sprites, a lot of poses used for Vegito: Xeno. Close-up of both characters.
    www.deviantart...
    jkimmortalgaming - A lot of Vegito: Xeno ULSW sprites.
    www.deviantart...
    silverx- Various Vegito SSJ4 ULSW poses used in the animation.
    www.deviantart...
    MPadillaTheSpriter - Some Vegito: Xeno and Gogeta high-resolution sprites.
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    ZeroCalories - Various blast and stage destruction animation/effects.
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    DBSpriteFight - Edited sprite of Vegito:Xeno.
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    Deviantarter1236 - Various sprite edits.
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    ~Music~
    MegaMan X - Bardock Theme FighterZ.
    Mega Man 5 - Select Screen.
    Mega Man 4 - Select Screen.
    Mega Man 8 - Stage Selected.
    Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - LR Full Power Jiren OST.
    Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - PHY Transforming Golden Frieza (Angel) OST.
    Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle - Transforming Corrupted Zamasu.
    JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Eyes of Heaven OST - Saint's Corpse.
    Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3 HD Collection - Androids Arrival!.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 7 тис.

  • @Hyourinjutsu
    @Hyourinjutsu  2 роки тому +4036

    Did you know? In earlier drafts, I wanted to include around 05:21 a panel of Goku giving a Senzu Bean to Moro (as in the Manga) to further justify Vegito's motivation against Goku's recklessness. But that was left out because it'd have meant two things:
    1) Vegeta would have had Forced Spirit Fission, which would mean he could cancel out fusions.
    2) Goku would have Mastered Ultra Instinct, which contradicts [What-If] #12, where he couldn't access Ultra Instinct anymore, and instead fused into Gogeta to defeat Jiren.
    Thus, this means that this Gogeta is after Broly but before the Moro Arc! Cheers! 🍻

    • @ryuvolt-bond-kamehameha2073
      @ryuvolt-bond-kamehameha2073 2 роки тому +120

      Hmmmmmmm ,cant agree more from a masterpiece fight like you ,i wish theres what If Xeno Gogito vs CC gogito .i wonder what's the next what If Will be

    • @zangetsu2002
      @zangetsu2002 2 роки тому +53

      maybe you could make a what if explaining what would've happened if Goku didn't had mui in the Moro fight
      it doesn't even have to be an animation it could just be an explanation video

    • @ayoubabubaker9211
      @ayoubabubaker9211 2 роки тому +41

      I just want to let you know Hyourinjutsu thank you for the video like really, Altough i hoped it to be a what if movie because of the long wait it did not dissapoint but for next time please give us updates because I understand theese things do take alot of time and please produce more content thank you!!!

    • @HD.Keem96
      @HD.Keem96 2 роки тому +16

      Now we need Ultra Goku/Vegeta fusion vs who ever

    • @Captain_Cosmic.
      @Captain_Cosmic. 2 роки тому +64

      So does this mean you had to handicap Gogeta?

  • @BrunoBlike
    @BrunoBlike 2 роки тому +3086

    After a whole year, the man has returned. Still pumping out the energy for his return

    • @M._mkid
      @M._mkid 2 роки тому +12

      For real

    • @dianne74
      @dianne74 2 роки тому +19

      Yep he's been gone for 12 months

    • @dreutsey
      @dreutsey 2 роки тому +3

      @@dianne74 i7

    • @dreutsey
      @dreutsey 2 роки тому +1

      @@M._mkid ok

    • @lonesome1689
      @lonesome1689 2 роки тому +12

      Finally lol it felt like a century

  • @beibkk0
    @beibkk0 2 роки тому +2306

    Goku Black: **ending timelines and their defenders**
    Time patrol: i sleep
    Gogeta: **uses max of his powers so his universe doesn't get erased**
    Time patrol: *_real shit?_*

    • @xardiss4223
      @xardiss4223 2 роки тому +182

      lol true words man

    • @memer5747
      @memer5747 2 роки тому +57

      ​@@xardiss4223 NO CAP, XD

    • @darklordsoma
      @darklordsoma 2 роки тому +59

      That's actually accurate.

    • @theonewhouploadsnothing1704
      @theonewhouploadsnothing1704 2 роки тому +58

      I guess since it’s “natural” time manipulating through time ring usage it’s not a problem?

    • @beibkk0
      @beibkk0 2 роки тому +45

      @@theonewhouploadsnothing1704 no because the trunks of that timeline is still dead, meaning there is no time machine (black "erased a continent off the map") and there is only gohan, despite the fact that original timeline trunks should be alive and back, since that timeline is still accessible.
      Also he shouldn't even have killed gohan, just so that they could get more powerful, rookie mistake.

  • @OperatorSadge
    @OperatorSadge 2 роки тому +745

    Hyorin has so much potential with his animations. Story telling, world building, power ups and what if transformations. He could animate his very own Multiversal TOP using characters if his what ifs

    • @danielflorez3762
      @danielflorez3762 2 роки тому +59

      I wouldnt say "Potential", he is already at his peak of creativity and now on everything he does will be awesome

    • @egoishim
      @egoishim 2 роки тому +2

      dont understand why he hasnt made his own series 😪

    • @OperatorSadge
      @OperatorSadge 2 роки тому +7

      @@egoishim I’m sure making something as intricate as the multiverse comic takes insane amounts of time and effort. Now put soemthinf like that with animations and other things. Unfortunately, it’ll be a long while if he even wants to attempt it

    • @Fallensabre-uw7hb
      @Fallensabre-uw7hb 2 роки тому

      @@OperatorSadge Trust me. As someone who is hard at work making his own comic series completely from scratch by himself, making a multiverse let alone a complex Outerverse is SO, FUCKING, DIFFICULT. There are so many factors to consider and factors you can't even comprehend but have to try to in order to actually get a foothold. Add on top its gonna be a coming of age tale, thus increasing the variety and complexity of each reality and each timeline, and good lord does it take a lot out of you. I've been working on this since Junior Year in High School when I was 16 or 17, I am now 22 going on 23 and I still feel like I haven't gotten past the QUARTER point. It takes severe, and I TRULY, HONESTLY say this, from the bottom of my SOUL, PASSION AND DEDICATION.
      Add on top even that when you finally get around to publishing it you need pencilers, editors, letterers, artists, box artists, and so many more which would cost so damn much.

  • @megabox5884
    @megabox5884 Рік тому +410

    Goku black: **Destroying Timelines in other what ifs**
    Xeno Vegito: Must've been the wind.
    Gogeta: **Exists**
    Xeno Vegito: Stop right there criminal scum!

    • @ARC--ly9cc
      @ARC--ly9cc Рік тому +13

      he just wanted to prove he's the better fusion, imo gogeta is cooler, but i do admit, vegito is stronger

    • @dominiclucas3980
      @dominiclucas3980 Рік тому +8

      Honestly, I say both outweigh each other's issues. Vegito has longer but screws around more, and Gogeta has less time, but puts everything into it, making sure he finishes the fight. If they were combined, it truly would be the perfect warrior

    • @InfernoCleric384
      @InfernoCleric384 Рік тому +21

      @@dominiclucas3980 It's amazing that people still say this. Vegito doesn't screw around at all, especially not this version. The only reason he didn't instantly kill Buu was because he had no intent on killing his own friends, and he had plans to free them (not to mention that it's very unlikely that killing Gohan Buu will remove the absorptions). Gogeta's not more effective, he just has more manageable opponents.

    • @olyviermonteau4300
      @olyviermonteau4300 Рік тому +7

      @@InfernoCleric384 ii think he meant super vegito but yeah buu saga he was buying time essentially

    • @mrbugado2537
      @mrbugado2537 Рік тому +1

      @@ARC--ly9cc 💀

  • @josephalvarez6115
    @josephalvarez6115 2 роки тому +2784

    i really love this one because it showed xeno vegito was never mad he was just concerned for gogetas decisions and basically said "please be more careful next time"

    • @tinnierthorn6470
      @tinnierthorn6470 2 роки тому +103

      Well said

    • @darrellsimon4462
      @darrellsimon4462 2 роки тому +221

      yh i loved the ending , i was kinda concerned that he was being so serious , but i like how like you said he just wanted them to be more careful. I mean if vegito could exist and he could beat gogeta then its possible for gogeta to be around

    • @e1iteyoshi998
      @e1iteyoshi998 2 роки тому +63

      I was more convinced he was gonna erase them like how Beerus Hakaied the present Zamasu in the Goku black/Future Trunks (Super) Arc.

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 2 роки тому +133

      He was concerned for DBS goku and vegeta's screwups comapred to GT goku and vegeta and xeno goku' and vegeta's more mature and serious disposition.

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 2 роки тому +163

      "please be more careful next time"
      *next time*
      Goku: *gives moro a senzu bean*
      Vegito *sighs* Well. I warned both him and vegeta.
      *instant transmissions over and blasts both goku and moro to smithereens

  • @UnrealEntGaming
    @UnrealEntGaming 2 роки тому +4005

    This was a spectacle! Can't wait to see what you have up your sleeve for the next one! This was FIRE! Great battle sequences and great execution.

  • @leirbag1595
    @leirbag1595 2 роки тому +683

    I imagine Goku Black and Baby Vegeta peeking from behind a rock and being absolutely horrified of what the Time Patrol is packing.

    • @planikafranic2051
      @planikafranic2051 2 роки тому +47

      A golden moment🤣

    • @justaguywithagoodphoto4801
      @justaguywithagoodphoto4801 2 роки тому +17

      @@planikafranic2051 imagine the convo following that

    • @rawsuper6910
      @rawsuper6910 6 місяців тому +71

      ​@WeySovietico6942
      Goku Black: "You aren't going to eject from the fusion for a hail mary, RIGHT?"
      Baby Vegeta: "..."

    • @deltaprimis3045
      @deltaprimis3045 6 місяців тому +8

      Then ultra vegito shows up.....

    • @seggenghirmay2236
      @seggenghirmay2236 6 місяців тому +7

      Goku black+baby vegeta=baby gogeta black
      Xeno vegito ssj4lb+gogeta ssbekk×100!=xeno gogito ssbe4lbkk×100k!!!!!!!!! 18:08

  • @Nephalem2002
    @Nephalem2002 Рік тому +486

    I love how Hyourinjutsu portrays SSJ4 and Blue better than the majority of modern Dragonball does, and gives each form the respect they deserve in each portrayal.

    • @terrillwilliams1515
      @terrillwilliams1515 Рік тому +4

      Big cap. GT showed all it's abilities. They didn't even once.

    • @sekira4516
      @sekira4516 Рік тому +47

      @@terrillwilliams1515 I hate to say it, but GT aint *modern* Dragonball anymore. that shit's ancient now.

    • @shiroufan5401
      @shiroufan5401 11 місяців тому +11

      @@terrillwilliams1515SSJ4 became just like blue by the end of gt just a replacement for ssj1

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@terrillwilliams1515What is bro yapping about

    • @a.bdioro5302
      @a.bdioro5302 9 місяців тому +6

      @@terrillwilliams1515*bro didn’t watch heroes*

  • @stillnousername9796
    @stillnousername9796 2 роки тому +579

    *Goku:* "So how come you suddenly don't wanna murder us?"
    *Xeno Vegito:* "You see, the multiversal threat was eliminated in my eyes be-cause... theeee when our ki combined at the highest levels, the forces from, uh... from our combined essence, they uh... they restored balance to the, er, the... reality's fabric, yea yeah yeah, the fabric of reality was mended by... uh, thus... binding together the time distortions with. . . with ... with the ultradimensional... soils, and then created... uh... celestial photosynthe-"
    *Vegeta:* "You just wanted to fight us?"
    *Xeno Goku:* "we just wanted to fight you."

    • @giov8955
      @giov8955 2 роки тому +42

      Yeah sounds about right 😂

    • @mackey9785
      @mackey9785 2 роки тому +111

      Honestly, that’s how this should’ve been. Just Vegito sensing Gogeta’s energy across the timelines and wanting to have a shot at this himself.
      He’s become so powerful of a being that he’s fallen into a depression and when he finally senses a Gogeta that’s reached his level of power, he’s hyped at finally getting a challenge.

    • @PRESSTART8
      @PRESSTART8 2 роки тому +32

      @@mackey9785 That might be true because xeno vegito is smiling the entire fight that I think he just made a reason to fight gogeta

    • @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970
      @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 2 роки тому +17

      @@PRESSTART8 probably both.

    • @bluearmy6847
      @bluearmy6847 2 роки тому +12

      I can relate, being the best of the all can be boring since you have no competitive to reach your limit or come comparable in your statistics can be a pain. But after acknowledging one potential and skills you would go to draft measures to get chances of challenging opportunity!

  • @hannimodjo7962
    @hannimodjo7962 2 роки тому +926

    Xeno Vegito: "No, you can't fuse into Gogeta you're too powerful"
    Gogeta: "You're literally me but with an extra bang"

    • @johnnycake9239
      @johnnycake9239 2 роки тому +110

      Vegito: you weren't supposed to say that

    • @jjohnson6382
      @jjohnson6382 2 роки тому +49

      @@johnnycake9239 Gogeta: I say what I want.

    • @jkjordon1
      @jkjordon1 2 роки тому +8

      Doesn't gogeta blue evolution also utilized ui within the transformation, he would've had a slight edge against vegito.

    • @theminuskai7453
      @theminuskai7453 2 роки тому +47

      @@jkjordon1 if gogeta used ui or mui vegito wouldnt have stood a chance

    • @WhatNow505
      @WhatNow505 2 роки тому +3

      😂

  • @RetroDubs
    @RetroDubs 2 роки тому +701

    11:49
    11:55
    Somewhat potential Dokkan fanmade super attacks I know it’ll get animated in a Dokkan style someday 👀

  • @mvkdomino2212
    @mvkdomino2212 2 роки тому +835

    Can we appreciate how much love Super Saiyan 4 is getting and the raw ability and power that lies within it? I'm loving these, they bring me so much joy every time I watch a new one or rewatch GT Goku vs Super Goku. Keep it up!

    • @INFM424
      @INFM424 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed

    • @dmitribrutus5543
      @dmitribrutus5543 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah.

    • @PomadaGaming
      @PomadaGaming 2 роки тому +14

      Appreciate the amount of BIAS you mean? No thank you,i have watched both gt and super but this is just absurd.

    • @mvkdomino2212
      @mvkdomino2212 2 роки тому +60

      @@PomadaGaming as have I. There is no telling how far Goku could go as we've seen both in GT and Super. We've seen it countless times, what changes this? Whether it's bias or not, it's still a damn good "What-if" video.

    • @mvkdomino2212
      @mvkdomino2212 2 роки тому +17

      @@PomadaGaming Regardless, I doubt it's meant to be canonically correct. It's a what-if video, so the boundaries are stretched to give is A1 content. You don't have to like or agree with it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @rusty2812
    @rusty2812 2 роки тому +3327

    I think we can all agree that Hyourin produces the highest quality DB animations out there.

    • @thewittywhygaming6487
      @thewittywhygaming6487 2 роки тому +15

      Hell yeah!!

    • @U.S.G
      @U.S.G 2 роки тому +91

      DB Sprite animations*

    • @rusty2812
      @rusty2812 2 роки тому +62

      @@U.S.G He uploads every 3 years tho lol

    • @BeyondAG905
      @BeyondAG905 2 роки тому +2

      Hey :)

    • @ultimamage3
      @ultimamage3 2 роки тому +27

      @@rusty2812 That we know of. He might be tapped to do Death Battle sprite animations for all we know.

  • @yoursteak5215
    @yoursteak5215 2 роки тому +432

    One year of his life was used to create this masterpiece of film we call Gogeta Vs Vegito
    I would like a moment of Silence to those who did not get to live to see this masterpiece

    • @Sword_Man_YT
      @Sword_Man_YT 2 роки тому +32

      I definitely think it was worth it... He did some great work...

    • @Patrick-wc8lt
      @Patrick-wc8lt 2 роки тому +4

      I guess canon beat non-canon :(

    • @jordanhodge2187
      @jordanhodge2187 2 роки тому +8

      It was worth it.

    • @Darkspine501
      @Darkspine501 2 роки тому +5

      @@Patrick-wc8lt over way round bro

    • @vegito_lol
      @vegito_lol 2 роки тому +4

      Nah this wasn't a year

  • @LokMotn
    @LokMotn 2 роки тому +308

    Dragon Ball has the most artistically gifted fandom I’ve ever seen. This is beautiful

    • @danieltanuwijaya7675
      @danieltanuwijaya7675 2 роки тому +11

      Ever seen the Touhou Fandom?

    • @najeebshah.
      @najeebshah. 2 роки тому +8

      @@danieltanuwijaya7675 never even heard of it , so no

    • @storyshiftcharahurts9992
      @storyshiftcharahurts9992 2 роки тому +5

      @@najeebshah. touhou animations are pretty good if you want to check them out, however they are in Japanese and there's not alot of them with English subs so it's not really "well known"
      Blame that on zun for not making his game mainstream media for other countries and not exclusively japan

    • @sonicmariogaming2222
      @sonicmariogaming2222 2 роки тому +1

      @@storyshiftcharahurts9992 honestly a huge missed opportunity
      Edit: ESPECIALLY with the amount of love it’s been getting lately

    • @joeda900
      @joeda900 2 роки тому +2

      @@danieltanuwijaya7675 Both are honestly tied in my opinion
      -Awesome remixes
      -Awesome arts
      -Awesome animation
      If you think hard enough, both Touhou and DBZ shares similarities

  • @metatron6262
    @metatron6262 2 роки тому +583

    Seeing DBH characters say someone's overusing fusion in the ultimate in irony.

    • @22kingdomheartsfan
      @22kingdomheartsfan 2 роки тому +103

      Yeah and talking about they're fusion causing timelines to be distorted, when they keep using Super Saiyan 4, despite The Kai of Time telling them not to do, for it could effect ALL of time and space.

    • @samyl9579
      @samyl9579 2 роки тому +55

      @@22kingdomheartsfan This is what happens when you gain a 4D+ power and don't know how to control it.

    • @metal42
      @metal42 2 роки тому +10

      @@22kingdomheartsfan that's DBH Manga only.

    • @22kingdomheartsfan
      @22kingdomheartsfan 2 роки тому +4

      @@metal42 Okay. And?

    • @kylelee3214
      @kylelee3214 2 роки тому +44

      @@22kingdomheartsfan but they don’t tho xeno goku and vegeta only ever use ssj4 in places like the demon realm or prison planet where time is isolated

  • @BessotenJenny
    @BessotenJenny 2 роки тому +871

    I love how you create new attacks and combos that never showed up in the manga/anime but still feel like they perfectly fit the character and universe. It's always such a pleasure to watch!

  • @thebreeze4140
    @thebreeze4140 2 роки тому +406

    Can all just talk about the amazing what-if lore this man is building bit by bit? He has almost completely merged both Super and GT in a very believable way for us and him to enjoy. Props to you man!

    • @darksonicyt5430
      @darksonicyt5430 2 роки тому +25

      You mean Super, GT, and Heroes.

    • @Xero_Kaiser
      @Xero_Kaiser 2 роки тому +31

      I'm legitimately more interested in the lore of this series than whatever's happening in the actual manga.

    • @shorddy1668
      @shorddy1668 2 роки тому +14

      @@Xero_Kaiser that’s the power of fan service.

    • @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970
      @ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 2 роки тому +23

      @@shorddy1668 no it's not just fan service. Otherwise this would be just as bad as SDBH. That shit is cool with no substance. And I hate that. This has all the perks of DBH but it actually knows wtf it's doing with its series.

    • @shorddy1668
      @shorddy1668 2 роки тому +2

      @@ihavenonamestilldonthaveon8970 Never said it was bad. This is just cool fan service because fans know what fans want.

  • @arnahunas4048
    @arnahunas4048 Рік тому +157

    Rewatching this since Gogeta VS Vegito got announced as the Death Battle Season Finale and I know for a fact it won’t top this. Amazing work.

    • @offthaweed7512
      @offthaweed7512 Рік тому +1

      Just skipping to the fight on that vid Tbh DB can’t scale for shit research on heroes Trunks was horrendous

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 Рік тому +1

      Probably could

    • @Ohmargod
      @Ohmargod Рік тому +39

      Just watched it and it didn't even reach the level of dedication and love this piece here conveys.

    • @Colecionador7162
      @Colecionador7162 Рік тому +2

      @@offthaweed7512 sorry guy, but that Silver was a comic character, and you know how comic characters are lmao

    • @theelderscout0314
      @theelderscout0314 Рік тому +2

      @@Ohmargod Even as a fan of Death Battle, I have to agree. Even the DBX did more with the matchup than the official episode.

  • @blakewinter9363
    @blakewinter9363 2 роки тому +343

    I love how there’s always a reason for the fights! Like don’t get me wrong I like a good what if but adding a good story/reason never hurts.

    • @midnightcrow2601
      @midnightcrow2601 2 роки тому +7

      Ikr

    • @MisterKenK
      @MisterKenK 2 роки тому +1

      What people mostly imply when they make a char that has ssj4 vs a char that has godly forms is that the char that has ssj4 has superior power level than the char that has ssjg-ssjb therefore making him stronger than the ssjg char in the transformations to ssj-ssj3 dont get me wrong not that i dont like it or anything like that after all ssj4 is my second favorite transformation but they just imply that the ssj4 char has higher base power than the ssjg char to be able to match his form with a form that is weaker than ssjg

    • @Ghostion-
      @Ghostion- 2 роки тому +22

      @@MisterKenK I dont think anyone implied that. if you watched goku vs...well goku, ssj4 was far weaker but he won because of his stamina. I think here xeno vegito was probably as powerful as gogeta if not more powerful.

    • @MisterKenK
      @MisterKenK 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ghostion- technically they do imply because if ssj4 is weaker than ssjb then how would gt goku be able to beat it not only cause of his stamina but be able to force his counterpart to ssjb while still being ssj3 a transformation that looks like childs play next to ssjg and ssjb and as we saw on gt goku vs dbs manga goku we see that he was doing some damage on ssjb goku even if he was only at ssj4 and if ssj4 is also weaker than ssjb and he was still damaging ssjb with simply ssj4, therefore technically they do imply that gt goku has weaker transformations but higher base power than his dbs manga counterpart since in dbs manga goku has low stamina, he didnt absorb ssjg power, nor learned to mix kaioken to his godly forms therefore i still see my argument is kinda right here.

    • @Ghostion-
      @Ghostion- 2 роки тому +7

      @@MisterKenKalthough having higher base power kinda makes sense because of the present tail, let me get this straight, do you think ssj4 is stronger? because its common sense to know that form is inferior to ssjb. ssjb is powerful but not untouchable. ssj4 is gonna be able to put up a decent fight but just because my opponent gets a few good licks in doesn't mean he's stronger than me right? And ssj4 didnt "force" goku into that godly state atleast not blue. Goku used it on his own, unless i have a raisin brain and need to watch it again. even if he did force him to use it ssj4 made smarter plays and ssjb just couldn't last long enough. the entire point that most people including me will give you once again, is ssj4 is weaker with a whole lotta stamina. its a sturdier form with little ki drain. blue is a less sturdier form with ki drain and that means not only can GT goku knock super goku out of blue if he tried but super goku wouldn't have any energy left even if he hadn't used that hakai.

  • @hugh-jassole8814
    @hugh-jassole8814 2 роки тому +1002

    I've been a dbz fan since 97 and never have a seen a sequence quite like this. How did your brain ever formulate all these designs? Your wide array of energy waves are unlike anything I've ever seen it's absolutely spectacular you did it better than the actual show ever could. They should have hired you. What a treat.

    • @SrBanana23
      @SrBanana23 2 роки тому +26

      Artísticamente hablando, el solo hizo la animación, los efectos y Sprites tu mismo los puedes encontrar con facilidad

    • @StunningSilken
      @StunningSilken 2 роки тому +4

      Right.

    • @danteisbuildinglvl
      @danteisbuildinglvl 2 роки тому +4

      Yes

    • @hazyworld8626
      @hazyworld8626 2 роки тому +8

      Another reason why they should do a what if type show.

    • @SniperKing-O
      @SniperKing-O 2 роки тому +2

      Yes! And hire him for the Xenoverse games, too!!!!

  • @Ankrusa
    @Ankrusa 2 роки тому +223

    Seeing the Vegito-Bottle moment as well as combining Stardust Breaker / Soul Punisher with other moves is BRILLIANT! Like I actually squeeled in my seat while watching. And seeing Vegito acknowledge Goku's Juvenile attitude while also acknowledging his own Goku's maturity: I love this kinda stuff. Plus, it makes it seem like Vegito is his own character! (Which he is lol) Keep up the awesome work man! Can tell ya this absolutely made my day.

    • @Doghero780
      @Doghero780 2 роки тому +3

      Kind rich coming from him considering xeno goku was created from trunks memories of goku

    • @DJLegends
      @DJLegends 2 роки тому +1

      ahh nice seeing you here

    • @chimpanzee6682
      @chimpanzee6682 2 роки тому

      Theres also a bit of God final flash from Dbh

    • @danixmax9159
      @danixmax9159 2 роки тому +3

      and what looked like a dragon big bang Kamehameha (not sure) from vegito

    • @elijahoneill5228
      @elijahoneill5228 2 роки тому +1

      Fighterz UA-camr in the comments let's go

  • @jocoolshow
    @jocoolshow Рік тому +268

    Not too many people remember that SSJ4 has the ability to absorb energy and keep that energy as a power amp. Idk if it was included but SSJ4 also has a limited degree of Reactive Evolution as attacks that the form faces will be less effective the following times it's used

    • @simplysupreme1030
      @simplysupreme1030 Рік тому +43

      @@potatotatoman1145 This is xeno vegito tho, in the official heroes handbook it’s stated that Xeno goku and Vegeta’s ssj4s have god ki in them which drastically boosts their power over GT Ssj4. That’s why the xenos are seen as over the GT and Super versions of goku and vegeta (plus xeno goku’s ssj4 is so strong that he’s kinda restricted to not be able to even transform into it in normal timelines)

    • @potatotatoman1145
      @potatotatoman1145 Рік тому +2

      @@simplysupreme1030 Oh....I gotta look into that then.

    • @ArtFromHer
      @ArtFromHer Рік тому +10

      @@potatotatoman1145 Both Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan God neither have their multipliers stated, EVER? You’re just wrong lol. Let me guess, you googled the answer?

    • @ExoticDestroyer8530
      @ExoticDestroyer8530 Рік тому

      ​​@@potatotatoman1145top making your stupid non-canon multiplier that aint official

    • @defectumdefectum9642
      @defectumdefectum9642 Рік тому +1

      @@ArtFromHer ur gonna have to blame that on dragon ball fandoms as someone made a post about it.

  • @Rabatzmacher
    @Rabatzmacher 2 роки тому +474

    How come Hyorin, one sole animator, makes better What-Ifs and fights in general than the Dragon Ball franchise themselves?

    • @dusty6719
      @dusty6719 2 роки тому +25

      yea I wish power levels and fights concepts were as cool as he does

    • @XRedoutX
      @XRedoutX 2 роки тому +47

      Cause this took a year for him to make this and for the db series its a weekly output

    • @thrasher9534
      @thrasher9534 2 роки тому +7

      @@XRedoutX that what happens when you have a team of people to help and spirite animation is challenging by yourself with this quality

    • @WeatherxCalipha
      @WeatherxCalipha 2 роки тому +45

      @@XRedoutX Heroes episodes are monthly outputs and are 7 minutes long.
      Also they got a whole team dedicated to working on the franchise where as Hyorin is doing this by himself for fun, this isn't his primarily source of income.

    • @LandonSankey
      @LandonSankey 2 роки тому +26

      @@WeatherxCalipha But this took a year. Not saying your wrong but still sdbh animation team has deadline to meet and follow.

  • @SinfulofSauce
    @SinfulofSauce 2 роки тому +241

    Like it or not, Xeno Vegito wasn't entirely wrong about his reasonings; Besides him being wrong about Goku endangering the universe when he actually gave the universes a chance.

    • @SyKoTic136
      @SyKoTic136 2 роки тому +21

      Mans is out here spitting facts

    • @smokedyamans2181
      @smokedyamans2181 2 роки тому +56

      Yes but that wasn’t his intention. He didn’t want to start the tournament of power to save the extra universes he did it to simply to fight strong opponents. Luckily the dragon balls were used to restore all the universes

    • @SyKoTic136
      @SyKoTic136 2 роки тому +3

      @@smokedyamans2181 that's tru to

    • @jasontodd802
      @jasontodd802 2 роки тому

      Other vegito never winning a fight and by standards this fight was byist but ok.

    • @SyKoTic136
      @SyKoTic136 2 роки тому +6

      @@jasontodd802 facts normal Vegito ain't built like Xeno Vegito who finishes his fights (ignoring the Buuhan fight since he wasn't trying to kill him but get absorbed by him)

  • @joekauffman9690
    @joekauffman9690 2 роки тому +239

    This was a brilliant fight, a fight between Gogeta and xeno vegtio was intense, I would like to see Cumber, more Goku Black and others soon

    • @darrellsimon4462
      @darrellsimon4462 2 роки тому +7

      yh i feel like he could do some cool things with cumber

    • @daikoru2511
      @daikoru2511 2 роки тому +12

      I would really like baby vegito black vs cumber or beerus since it was hinted in the part baby vegito black was in

    • @Cabba_S
      @Cabba_S 2 роки тому +8

      I want to see bardock

    • @midnightcrow2601
      @midnightcrow2601 2 роки тому +1

      @@Cabba_S same

    • @daikoru2511
      @daikoru2511 2 роки тому

      @@Cabba_S whelp your wish was granted

  • @Tay_Jester
    @Tay_Jester 2 роки тому +157

    Imagine if DBZ battles were always this fast paced and creative🤩

    • @beibkk0
      @beibkk0 Рік тому +10

      Fast paced fights are good in the aspect of being, well; fights. But it complicates the choreography too much. This barely affects anyone but as someone who used to do sprite animations with ULSW characters it's always cool to see how Hyourinjutsu will improvise and innovate with the sheets (that are mostly bland and have very few sprites).

  • @jet-set-stars
    @jet-set-stars 2 роки тому +168

    You have no idea how much it angers me to be 10 hours late on seeing this. You never disappoint with these animations do you? Each one you make is better than the last.

    • @zero.9831
      @zero.9831 2 роки тому +2

      Meanwhile: *1 Day Ago*

    • @BeyondAG905
      @BeyondAG905 2 роки тому

      @Xeno YT yo nice pfp 👌

    • @jet-set-stars
      @jet-set-stars 2 роки тому

      @@BeyondAG905 Thanks.

    • @brachialtick6539
      @brachialtick6539 2 роки тому +1

      I wouldnt agree with the last part, goku gt vs goku super is still the best one, black and baby and black vs vegeta are close too

  • @anotherunreliablenarrator
    @anotherunreliablenarrator 2 роки тому +702

    I hate how nobody's talking about the absolutely God-tier Megaman intro

    • @JFirecracker
      @JFirecracker 2 роки тому +43

      Yeeeeeeah I hope _that_ keeps up. That whole presentation aesthetic tickles my love for retro shit.

    • @kissmybitchup
      @kissmybitchup 2 роки тому

      Yeeeaaah that was Perfect!
      Genius!!

    • @MasterXUV784
      @MasterXUV784 2 роки тому +1

      I LOVE THAT

    • @MasterXUV784
      @MasterXUV784 2 роки тому +2

      Or the fact that the creator used something in that same scene you mentioned that Vegito:Xeno didn't use

    • @MasterXUV784
      @MasterXUV784 2 роки тому +1

      Super Saiyan GOD 4, Like in the finale of DBGT, Gogeta had red hair.

  • @silferbuu86
    @silferbuu86 2 роки тому +741

    The fact that the entire time, Vegito is like "Give me whatever you want" shows the level of confidence this guy has. Like a big brother holding back for his younger one.

    • @DevVy-WeVvy
      @DevVy-WeVvy 2 роки тому +45

      Gotta love Vegito's confidence

    • @cezzy_1496
      @cezzy_1496 2 роки тому +36

      I love vegito. He's my favorite fusion lol

    • @egoishim
      @egoishim 2 роки тому +4

      @@cezzy_1496 you act like theres not 2 fusions in the entire show

    • @xboxoneyes7734
      @xboxoneyes7734 2 роки тому +29

      @@egoishim theres 3 if you count Gotenks(4 if you count Superbuu
      8 if you count the dudes he absorved)
      9 if you count the Goku Black and Zamasu Fusion
      10 if you count the Kibito Kai
      11 if you count the Old kai
      and im pretty sure im missing some

    • @doheonlee6703
      @doheonlee6703 2 роки тому +4

      @@xboxoneyes7734 I am going to talk about more fusions that appeared in DBZ/DBS ONLY (NOT DBGT or SDBH)
      Well, there is Kefla (if you didn't count her).
      Also Cell did absorb the Androids (I counted this because u counted Super Buu aborbing others).
      Piccolo fused with Nail and Kami (So did the Universe 6 Namekians)
      Aniraza was a fusion of those robots.
      Don't forget Buu fused with the two Kais back when he was still Kid Buu to form the current (fat) Buu.
      Manga Only:
      The Super Namekian that got one-shot by Moro.
      Moro fused/absorbed seven-three.
      So yeah... there are a LOT of Fusion/Absorption in DB.

  • @iconic8986
    @iconic8986 2 роки тому +97

    Even though SSJ 4 is not canon, it’s always been one of my favorite design. I think it’s better than just a simple hair color change.

    • @bensafari9874
      @bensafari9874 2 роки тому +8

      Ssj4 is canon to the gt timeline

    • @ulti8106
      @ulti8106 2 роки тому +8

      Nah ssj4 is cannon because is way to cool not to be is like broly it's power will Make It common eventually

    • @Hakuta925
      @Hakuta925 2 роки тому +3

      what's wrong with ssjb i like it

    • @smurf2178
      @smurf2178 2 роки тому +6

      @@Hakuta925 dope transformation but i like ssj god better also ssj4's design is based off of great ape's so its not some random coloring unlike ssjb which is just for merchandise

    • @FEdelasJONSEnjoyer
      @FEdelasJONSEnjoyer Рік тому

      🤓

  • @nicholascoral4870
    @nicholascoral4870 2 роки тому +404

    While it felt short, it was nothing short of some of the best on this channel, and admittedly one of best fan animation I've ever seen. Can't wait for what's next, plot and animation alike. Keep it up dude, and you're the best!

    • @kamekid9786
      @kamekid9786 2 роки тому +24

      I'm expecting Baby Vegito Black vs Beerus next.

    • @optimusprime7243
      @optimusprime7243 2 роки тому +3

      @@kamekid9786 omfg yes!!! We need to get that as the next top comment so he sees it!

    • @Black-ku9ul
      @Black-ku9ul 2 роки тому +4

      dude i agree with you i thought the animation would be more or less equal to goku black ssj4 vs ssjg evolved vegeta but it ended up surpassing that last episode apart from the narrative that is being built in a little while we will see baby vegetto black vs xeno gogeta ssj4 limit breaker.

    • @TheSupremeJointHD
      @TheSupremeJointHD 2 роки тому +9

      i wouldn’t say “short” tho. majority of his videos are just as long as this one with a few of them actually being long like the super goku vs gt goku one. regardless it’s still great content

    • @ryder4654
      @ryder4654 2 роки тому

      Really ? This genuinely felt like a movie to me

  • @andremckenzie9746
    @andremckenzie9746 2 роки тому +265

    7:54 that was one of the COLDEST ways I've ever seen a transformation done!

    • @BeyondAG905
      @BeyondAG905 2 роки тому +3

      Coolest*? Lol

    • @unluckyzues2546
      @unluckyzues2546 2 роки тому +27

      @@BeyondAG905 no he means coldest

    • @gaetanogabriele905
      @gaetanogabriele905 2 роки тому +2

      @UCj9TopxxDB6-1TI1IXIvw-w you know instead of taking it out on someone on the internet you should talk about your frustrations to a psychologist

    • @alphabeastunleashed4640
      @alphabeastunleashed4640 2 роки тому +11

      @Jalen Fauntleroy since when being white is a bad thing?

    • @gukeoke6312
      @gukeoke6312 2 роки тому

      @Jalen Fauntleroy Are you black?

  • @vjthadj6051
    @vjthadj6051 2 роки тому +124

    Watching these vids kind of makes me wish Dragon Ball would explore more aspects of Ki Manipulation. Like techniques in DB function, fundamentally, the same. They either enhance your strength, cause damage, or protects you. There isn't a fundamental difference between the Galick Gun and the Kamehameha. I don't have much issue with that but I feel this sort of established the potential that Ki in verse is capable of. This is kind of why I like Gotenks so much. His techniques were so much different compared to what was established. A binding Ki attack (Galactic Donut) a delayed detonating Ki Attack (Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack) or a sealing Ki Attack (Charging Ultra Buu Buu Volleyball). I just wish DB would do more with those concepts. Not to mention the Ki Blade. For a while the ONLY person showed to be able to do that was Vegito (and Salza for some reason but not canon) until Goku Black, Zamasu and Merged Zamasu showed up. Like this animation utilized the use of force fields, telekinetic fields, I mean for god's sake Gogeta made a KI MAFUBA JAR to do the technique. Things like this make the Dragon Ball verse so fun.

    • @nothingtoseehere9648
      @nothingtoseehere9648 2 роки тому +8

      nah, they would never go that deep into KI, that's for the hardcore DB fans to find out 😂

  • @InfernoCleric384
    @InfernoCleric384 2 роки тому +97

    Love the small detail at the beginning of the difficulty being "Impossible". It's the little things that count.

    • @silverrath
      @silverrath 9 місяців тому +2

      “‘Impossible’...? That means nothing before Vegito.”
      Such a cold line.

  • @MuembiEditz
    @MuembiEditz 2 роки тому +199

    THIS WAS A MAD GOATED ANIMATION BRO! My favourite part was when Gogeta made two afterimages of himself where one was in ssjg, while the other was in ssj then they, combined and became ssjb Gogeta, since ssjg+ssj=ssjb. That was a dope ass detail/touch in the animation. Your so underrated its not even funny.

    • @NoHandle44
      @NoHandle44 2 роки тому +5

      That part actually didn't make sense to me at first.
      I get the impression it made. But I didn't understand how a fusion split off into 2 other fusions of itself.

    • @ShoJubuz
      @ShoJubuz 2 роки тому +4

      @@NoHandle44 probably like tiens technique

    • @elijahdixon7681
      @elijahdixon7681 2 роки тому +13

      @@NoHandle44 More of some animation detail than anything. He was just having fun making a different transformation sequence.

    • @asianpersuasion4901
      @asianpersuasion4901 2 роки тому +1

      @@NoHandle44 in reality, there's no point in physicaly splitting, doing two different transformations and fusing back. however, in terms of visuals, the point is gotten across, and I think that's cool.

    • @jjohnson6382
      @jjohnson6382 2 роки тому +1

      That was Badass

  • @FrostbiteAssassin
    @FrostbiteAssassin 2 роки тому +164

    Really love the reasoning behind the winners in these what-ifs, an interesting take on transformations. I also quite enjoy the fact there's always a story involved, and it isn't just a random fight between characters

  • @giacomociogli7631
    @giacomociogli7631 2 роки тому +125

    Screw you, you surpassed yourself again. 10/10 worth the wait.

    • @Webshooters1
      @Webshooters1 2 роки тому +2

      He broke through his limits once again!

    • @tinnierthorn6470
      @tinnierthorn6470 2 роки тому +1

      Ha ssj4 is better than blue

    • @SamuraiVoid22
      @SamuraiVoid22 2 роки тому

      @@tinnierthorn6470 Fan made my boi

    • @drkspnova
      @drkspnova 2 роки тому

      @@tinnierthorn6470 agreed

    • @giacomociogli7631
      @giacomociogli7631 2 роки тому +2

      Guys, add also the "xeno" factor. Meaning that transformations and power levels mean literally nothing lmao
      Also who cares about that

  • @itwasntme6833
    @itwasntme6833 2 роки тому +23

    DBH Vegito telling someone that they rely on the fusion technique too much is the definition of irony💀

  • @Maestoso28
    @Maestoso28 2 роки тому +252

    Words can’t explain how excited I am for this

    • @JVanimeenjoyer
      @JVanimeenjoyer 2 роки тому +4

      Dude my jaw dropped when I saw SSJBEKKx20 in what if gogeta fought jiren. And now im even excited for this

    • @geritosotoshi6318
      @geritosotoshi6318 2 роки тому +1

      I am thrilled and excited

  • @chickencrusaders680
    @chickencrusaders680 2 роки тому +205

    I can tell he puts a lot of time and effort into his animations. Which is why he needed a break. Thanks for this awesome animation. Keep up the good work.

  • @nicholascruz5062
    @nicholascruz5062 2 роки тому +71

    What's crazy, to me, is the thought and research you put into your explanation of the timelines and how these forms work. Freaking love this series

    • @slyperior8716
      @slyperior8716 2 роки тому +6

      its funny that he puts more thought into it than actual dragon ball writers

  • @tommasoleo
    @tommasoleo 2 роки тому +91

    Deep logic behind every animation, and DAMN i love how much respect and value is gived to the Ssj4 transformation, all of this have an enormous narrative potential! Great work!

  • @dash431zx3
    @dash431zx3 2 роки тому +75

    Bruh, i REALLY need a game created by Hyourinjutsu, his art and animation style is soooooo smooth & epic

    • @herosdiaz8757
      @herosdiaz8757 2 роки тому +7

      Do you realize how well that game will sell? Like the characters, it's beyond our understanding XD

    • @matogelvasila99
      @matogelvasila99 2 роки тому +1

      he'd literally get sued but sure

    • @GetHypedandShocked
      @GetHypedandShocked 2 роки тому

      @@matogelvasila99 He could give credits to the original series. But idk anything about legal stuff.

  • @herobizarre6010
    @herobizarre6010 2 роки тому +198

    Meanwhile, Kaggy is probably splooging all over the place once he sees this masterpiece.
    Speaking of such, when can we expect your next big time fight video? I was rather surprised we didn't get those analysis and science-y mid riffs in this video like we saw with the others.

    • @jgoofy8233
      @jgoofy8233 2 роки тому +18

      There was no need, as its just like the battle of GT Goku(Adult) Vs DBS(Manga) Goku:
      Primal Power vs Godly Power

    • @Gogeta2501
      @Gogeta2501 2 роки тому +2

      Who is kaggy

    • @Gogeta2501
      @Gogeta2501 2 роки тому +2

      @@jgoofy8233 and both SS4 won

    • @Name-hu1yn
      @Name-hu1yn 2 роки тому +6

      @@Gogeta2501 only because of the limits god forms have

    • @jgoofy8233
      @jgoofy8233 2 роки тому +8

      @@Gogeta2501 quite frankly if the more recent versions of Goku and Vegeta were used this battle (minus the fusion) would have quite a different outcome

  • @isthatajojorefrence5271
    @isthatajojorefrence5271 2 роки тому +50

    I love the fact that everyone is admiring this Piece of art instead of arguing this is the cool side of the fandom that i love to be in

  • @armughanmystic
    @armughanmystic 2 роки тому +456

    hey man, you have no idea how much you've inspired others through your work. you're the reason that i have a career in game design. god bless you

    • @fireironthesecond2909
      @fireironthesecond2909 2 роки тому +4

      He sees these you know

    • @armughanmystic
      @armughanmystic 2 роки тому +19

      @@fireironthesecond2909 that's the point

    • @Mjc1822
      @Mjc1822 2 роки тому +6

      @@fireironthesecond2909 That’s the point

    • @henrymasih6400
      @henrymasih6400 2 роки тому +2

      So happy to hear this! Keep grinding brother!

    • @7standdad
      @7standdad 2 роки тому +2

      yeah lol I always look to this dude's channel when I'm thinking on how I want something to look

  • @bragndragon
    @bragndragon 2 роки тому +105

    Man when goegeta did a stardust spirit bomb my jaw hit the floor. This was insane. I couldn't imagine anyone to give justice to the true power of these fusions but I think you did perfectly! Excellent work man! I don't care how long I have to wait to see the next one because I know it will be as good if not better than the last. Keep up the great work and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

  • @hypemynizzle
    @hypemynizzle 2 роки тому +52

    Every time I see Ss4 and Ssb in the same area I start waiting for the mention of a potential SsbSs4. It’s such a dope form.

    • @rakhimitra2193
      @rakhimitra2193 2 роки тому +11

      Remember, What if Episode 5 by Hyrunjutsu?

    • @hypemynizzle
      @hypemynizzle 2 роки тому +11

      @@rakhimitra2193 Yup, it’s why I made the comment actually.

    • @lijahmoody
      @lijahmoody 2 роки тому +3

      Facts, I’m waiting on that too lmao

  • @TaeSunWoo
    @TaeSunWoo 2 роки тому +11

    7:56 idk why but this shot of the two Gogetas combing SSJ & SSG to make SSB made me emotional

  • @LughSamildanach
    @LughSamildanach 2 роки тому +262

    Man, Limit Breaker SS4 is nuts. Hell even just Full Power SS4 is crazy strong as it is. This was so good!

    • @SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited
      @SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited 2 роки тому +26

      The Xeno Characters Base Forms Definitely Carried The SSJ4 Forms there by alot, like dang Xeno Characters are no Joke.

    • @SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited
      @SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited 2 роки тому +8

      @The ChadDevil are you Serious you don't know what Xeno Characters are ? They are like The Time Patroller Versions of The Characters. Xeno Goku, Xeno Trunks, Xeno Pan, Xeno Vegito and etc. Your Literally in the Comment Section of a What if Battle between SSJBE Gogeta Vs Limit Breaker SSJ4 Xeno Vegito.

    • @AyoNutz
      @AyoNutz 2 роки тому +31

      @@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited mad about this guy who just simply ask a question because he don't know about something?🤦 😐

    • @SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited
      @SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited 2 роки тому +4

      @@AyoNutz Iam not Actually Mad, but just Curious if it's a Serious Question or not cause Even the Video Explains what The Xeno Characters are.

    • @AyoNutz
      @AyoNutz 2 роки тому +2

      @@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited nah man I think he's serious About it plus I don't knew that too couple of months ago

  • @KINGxKAGE
    @KINGxKAGE 2 роки тому +91

    The Dokkan themes in this fit the scenes SO WELL

    • @kombatant2154
      @kombatant2154 2 роки тому +13

      bruh when I heard the fucking broly theme my hairs shot up

    • @Rika-sensei
      @Rika-sensei 2 роки тому +3

      @@kombatant2154 yesssssir

    • @TrueDarkLeo
      @TrueDarkLeo 2 роки тому +1

      @@kombatant2154 wait when did you last play dokkan or listen to dokkan ost cause right now every new dokkan festivals ost is on fire

    • @kombatant2154
      @kombatant2154 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrueDarkLeo dont play dokkan, only themes I like is the beginning of or namek goku and the broly theme that's used in this video

  • @BlackAce5ds
    @BlackAce5ds 2 роки тому +542

    I noticed how Vegito seems to have absorb some of Gogeta's attacks into him which lets him gain the necessary Saiya Power to transform to Super Full Power Saiyan 4 and Limitbreaker.
    Genius, he basically did what GT Goku when he fought Golden Great Ape Baby Vegeta and absorbed his death ball.

    • @hattoripool1533
      @hattoripool1533 2 роки тому +111

      That kinda makes sense when you consider that Xeno Goku went through his own version of Dragon ball gt

    • @richardshiflett5181
      @richardshiflett5181 2 роки тому +8

      Vegito could already do that. He isn't weak like ssbe and mui. Such weak forms

    • @bruh9601
      @bruh9601 2 роки тому +50

      @@richardshiflett5181 How is ssbe and mui weak?

    • @Yuuto848
      @Yuuto848 2 роки тому +15

      @@bruh9601 ssbe is just as strong as ssbkx20 and ultra instinct loses accuracy as the fight gets longer

    • @galaxystudios370
      @galaxystudios370 2 роки тому +5

      @Bruh
      He’s joking

  • @windows98alpha35
    @windows98alpha35 Рік тому +10

    Funny how this is better than what Death Battle gave us

    • @Luigi_is_the_boi
      @Luigi_is_the_boi Рік тому +3

      I thought the same thing when I first watched this

  • @bilal_Hadjlaoui907
    @bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 роки тому +93

    Not gonna lie the sdbh did good job in the fusions and the forms

    • @LavaCreeperPeople
      @LavaCreeperPeople 2 роки тому +4

      YAY ITS FINALLY HERE

    • @chocolatesensei5648
      @chocolatesensei5648 2 роки тому +15

      Designs yes the fights meh

    • @_Burakku
      @_Burakku 2 роки тому +10

      If they just did ssj5 tho... then my childhood would come true 😭

    • @rakhimitra2193
      @rakhimitra2193 2 роки тому +9

      The 1 Thing They did Right

    • @bilal_Hadjlaoui907
      @bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 роки тому +1

      @@_Burakku most parts of my childhood is with lego and star wars and transformers (optimus prime show)

  • @dodonation
    @dodonation 2 роки тому +58

    There are lazy people who get more subscribers to you, although your hard work deserves more, thanks for making this beautiful animations.

    • @tony9622
      @tony9622 2 роки тому +1

      Ew why does it say your comment is from 9 days ago and not a week ago. Ewwwwww

    • @tanusrichandra6286
      @tanusrichandra6286 2 роки тому +6

      @@tony9622 it's new

    • @nep7939
      @nep7939 2 роки тому

      @@tony9622 Why are you complaining tho

  • @calebdonaldson8770
    @calebdonaldson8770 2 роки тому +121

    Great job making Zeno Vegito hella intimidating! It clashes perfectly with Gogeta's never-give-up attitude. This entire thing was just a perfect sequence of events and maneuvers with gorgeous artwork. It surpassed my expectations from the previous What-If, and that's saying a LOT!

  • @katsu7240
    @katsu7240 2 роки тому +5

    When Baby and Goku Black vs beerus😩😩😩

  • @Smitgv_21
    @Smitgv_21 2 роки тому +137

    When UA-cam needed him the most, he returned with another masterpiece

  • @blamecanada8525
    @blamecanada8525 2 роки тому +50

    Mixing the two styles was pretty cool, also Xeno Vegito definitely needs to go an fix the golden frieza/cell timeline

    • @MicroSpecGamer
      @MicroSpecGamer 2 роки тому +4

      A potential 5th form Golden kkx20 Celza (ssj4 Goku absorbed) vs God ki ssj4 kkx20 Vegito?

    • @Carlos-nu6ii
      @Carlos-nu6ii 2 роки тому +3

      Vegito would destroy Frieza and Cell

    • @Hat5o
      @Hat5o 2 роки тому +1

      @@Carlos-nu6ii Micro is talking about a Celza (their fusion) lol, but i still think Vegito would win

    • @BrianAwesome
      @BrianAwesome 2 роки тому +1

      Ffaccttss !!! Because Gt Beerus is probably still sleep anyway.

    • @MicroSpecGamer
      @MicroSpecGamer 2 роки тому

      @@Hat5o I dunno, 5th form golden Frieza and golden Cell might be a better fight then this Gogeta, also Cell having ssj4 goku absorbed and another potential form on top of his abomination might beat this Vegito.

  • @huthifaali8291
    @huthifaali8291 2 роки тому +47

    I’m glad you kept the fact that both potara and fusion dance gives out equal power but the xeno versions base are just much abnormally high than super as well as experience and full control over his power

    • @lonesome1689
      @lonesome1689 2 роки тому +2

      Ngl I think that is BS lol unless xeno is heroes which makes sense since heroes doesn’t make sense

    • @e1iteyoshi998
      @e1iteyoshi998 2 роки тому +12

      Well the the powerscaling for Heroes is absolutely busted. I mean how is it that Turles is able to even keep up with a SSJB Heroes Goku no matter how times he's eaten fruit from the Tree of Might. Or that a Limit Breaker SSJ4 Broly is having trouble against a SSJ3 Cumber?

    • @giacomociogli7631
      @giacomociogli7631 2 роки тому +1

      @@lonesome1689 kinda, yes. And the scaling for power level and transformations there doesnt make any sense at all, like Yamcha could go Super Saiyan and become the strongest being ever.
      Ok that is a bit exaggerated, but it explains more or less how that works

    • @TheMightOfGeburah
      @TheMightOfGeburah 2 роки тому

      @Zeref Ssj4 Vegito is not stronger than Ssjb Vegito, Ssjb Vegito legit did better than Ssj4lb Vegito against Demon King Fu.

    • @TheMightOfGeburah
      @TheMightOfGeburah 2 роки тому

      The Potara and Fusion Dance aren’t equal in power.

  • @robertmcgath9135
    @robertmcgath9135 2 роки тому +40

    I like how you knew brolys wrath form kinda related to ssj4, and included that Vegito could use it.

  • @tokkuyasu
    @tokkuyasu 2 роки тому +42

    Love how much attention Galick Gun is getting in this fight

  • @ThodorisManiatis1220
    @ThodorisManiatis1220 2 роки тому +7

    Vegitto straight up expose the story of dbs and its terrible decisions🤣

    • @caesar5588
      @caesar5588 2 роки тому +2

      DBS universe’s current state is literally free real estate for Frieza now lmao.

    • @dmitribrutus5543
      @dmitribrutus5543 2 роки тому

      I do agree with that

    • @coldfireball6384
      @coldfireball6384 2 роки тому

      Vegito(Xeno): "Don't even get me started on episode 5.."

    • @darksonicyt5430
      @darksonicyt5430 2 роки тому

      @@coldfireball6384 Gogeta: *Oh god no*

  • @dajuanwhitaker1785
    @dajuanwhitaker1785 2 роки тому +30

    Xeno Vegito was spitting mad facts when he brought up the bullshit that happened in the series because of Goku's Battle Boner.

    • @The-Endo-SymArmor
      @The-Endo-SymArmor 2 роки тому +4

      Agreed. DBS Goku has a sick urge to battle opponents no matter how strong they are. He will die fighting someone like Silver Siver or Captain Atom etc

    • @malbrazy8675
      @malbrazy8675 2 роки тому +1

      Nah he was spitting facts tho that’s crazy but did y’all see the moves and xeno vegeitos aura at full power…… lord gave mercy he dangerous fr

    • @nathanevans1382
      @nathanevans1382 2 роки тому +12

      I want to point out that Goku did not resurrect Frieza and that Zeno was going to erase the universes anyway, the Tournament of Power gave them a chance, Goku didn't cause any problems because he wanted a good fight, it's a common misconception but Goku did NOT endanger anyone because he wanted a good fight, that argument is just wrong.

    • @desertsandfly2277
      @desertsandfly2277 2 роки тому +13

      In Goku's defense, the Omni-king was planning to erase all the universes before the idea of a tournament came to them. The T.O.P simply gave one of the universes a chance to survive.

    • @nathanevans1382
      @nathanevans1382 2 роки тому +4

      @@desertsandfly2277 Exactly! Goku didn't make a problem, he actually helped.

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 роки тому +11

    13:52 yeah,limit breaker ssj4. K then

    • @PomadaGaming
      @PomadaGaming Рік тому

      5:01 see,this thing has been brought up a dumb amount of times. I rewatched Super recently,a lot of times it is repeated that the Zen-oh’s were eventually gonna delete the weaker universes and more than anything this gave em a chance to battle for the survival instead of getting deleted without question. This for the hundredth time now🥸,even Whis himself explained this like 9 times across the tournament.
      5:17 once again- bro just as this started they pointed out how Trunks had traveled to the past so that much is clear; the reason that happened was because of Infinite Zamasu literally getting to other timelines.
      5:23 alright,that Is fair
      11:17 ‘course he’s absorbing Gogeta Blue’s attacks to his own power how Not.
      13:16 what is that a punisher bomb?!💀 sh that’s cool
      13:27 oh yeah of course he’s absorbing it as well. The fuckin Soul Bomb absorbed ok yeah cool I guess he wins😀👏
      13:54 and there’s limit break ssj4. I mean of course,of course…
      15:50 oh?

    • @rainerspin4043
      @rainerspin4043 Рік тому

      You Ok dude?

  • @ejjk-11
    @ejjk-11 2 роки тому +112

    It really feels like Hyourinjutsu has a special love for the SS4 and so do I. While I generally dislike the god ki introduced in Super, I appreciated it a lot more thanks to the GT Goku vs Super Goku vid. Great vid again! Hope to see lots more 🤟

    • @tubbytoes3005
      @tubbytoes3005 2 роки тому +1

      @@vicentewayagwag5693 maybe if blue tried to not do useless moves it could win. Otherwise ss4 will and always will be cooler

    • @ejjk-11
      @ejjk-11 2 роки тому +8

      I really liked the display of power the SS God form they displayed in the Battle of Gods anime arc and movie but when they introduced SSB and that both Goku and Vegeta had to use it during the Universe 6 tournament, it felt like they kinda nerfed the idea of having a strong transformation. I just plainly liked the SS4 form because they gave importance to the tail and great ape form

    • @dmitribrutus5543
      @dmitribrutus5543 2 роки тому +3

      @@ejjk-11 That true. I did felt God forms didn’t live up as the series went on. Super Saiyan God was forgotten until the T.O.P. and Super Saiyan Blue became useless fighting against mortals who have potential to rival them. It really does suck to be honest
      While Super Saiyan 4 definitely has great impact of the Saiyans truly are.

    • @joswasi4144
      @joswasi4144 2 роки тому

      @@vicentewayagwag5693 There is no way you can prove that though 😂

  • @sungamthegamer7431
    @sungamthegamer7431 2 роки тому +120

    Can’t wait to see the result of all of his hard work finally pay off. Welcome back king.

  • @silver7158
    @silver7158 2 роки тому +302

    I feel like Gogeta could've possibly win if had more information about Vegito's transformations and his abilities. Vegito had information about Gogeta so he had an advantage.

    • @unluckyzues2546
      @unluckyzues2546 2 роки тому +6

      @JuicySensei uhh mind if i ask whats the difference

    • @karbyboi8489
      @karbyboi8489 2 роки тому +183

      @@unluckyzues2546 Gogeta couldn’t have won even if he wanted too. The xeno’s are EXTREMELY POWERFUL. An xeno goku is literally every Goku iteration combined to make one ultimate Goku. Same thing with vegeta. Now take that and make xeno vegito.
      DBS gogeta lost before the fight even started, he lost in the title lmao

    • @storyshiftcharahurts9992
      @storyshiftcharahurts9992 2 роки тому +107

      @@karbyboi8489 granted yeah, xeno vegito is the definition of "if you see me you're pretty much fucked." Gogeta woulda lost, but gogeta ain't no slouch either. Mans comes in and fucking dominates the battlefield whether it's broly, janemba, omega, or hearts. It's just yeah the xenos are literally fucking busted lmao
      this shit was fun to watch though even after seeing it like 20 times

    • @The-Endo-SymArmor
      @The-Endo-SymArmor 2 роки тому +13

      @@storyshiftcharahurts9992 Gogeta made Jiren hate Goku & Vegeta for using fusion to weaken him

    • @rakhimitra2193
      @rakhimitra2193 2 роки тому +52

      Sorry for everyone here being Rude, Gogeta Didn't Had a Chance in the First Place Xeno Goku was Infact Confirmed by Dragon Ball Heroes to be Multiversal.... and Xeno Vegito is just Xeno Goku + a Equally Powerful Vegeta + Fusion Boost + Rivallry Boost..... its just unfair for Regular Gogeta, Hyrunjutsu wanted an Actual Fight... If it was Gogeta from SDBH it would've Been a Different Story...

  • @codrizz14
    @codrizz14 Рік тому +5

    Spoiler alert! The fusion of Goku and vegeta wins

  • @AutisTECH96
    @AutisTECH96 2 роки тому +50

    I've watched this a second time already, and I've got to say that the choreography, the environments, the different abilities, the fusions, the animations, and the fight is REALLY well executed AND is an absolute spectacle, overall, I've got to applaud you for this, Hyourinjutsu (Brandon), keep pushing your animations to better and better heights, thanks for delivering , once again bro, I love you, no homo!!

  • @t4rci427
    @t4rci427 2 роки тому +101

    You explain more about the techniques used during battle than Toriyama ever has. Great job bro you deserve more love

    • @melaninking199
      @melaninking199 Рік тому +7

      And it's not a bunch of asspulls either. I like how he explains every single transformation from the base of the saiyan transformation to higher Transformations like Super Saiyan 4, 5, and hell even fusion transformations. This is something Dragon Ball super has been lacking. The show doesn't explain how krillin was able to hold his own with Goku or how Vegeta became Super Saiyan God in the broly movie

    • @Miguel-wp4go
      @Miguel-wp4go Рік тому

      @@melaninking199 Vegeta becomes Super Saiyan God in the manga by training with the gods themselves, developing God Ki, the anime just ditches the Super Saiyan God transformation enitrely after Blue is introduced, although it is a mix of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan 1

  • @spongeboymebob771
    @spongeboymebob771 2 роки тому +40

    YOOOO HE'S FINALLY BACK, IT'S FINALLY OUT!
    This was incredible. What a project. Good to have you back.

  • @Giose
    @Giose Рік тому +35

    I gotta say i really love how you not only make an animation with insane levels of quality, but also focus on the lore, both from the original source and the one you're creating. This is amazing!!

  • @sebastianvakarian9773
    @sebastianvakarian9773 2 роки тому +82

    I can't imagine how much work this took to animate. People seriously underestimate the effort that goes into these things. Fantastic choreography also, probably the best one yet :D

  • @Lethality08
    @Lethality08 2 роки тому +30

    1 whole year to make an outstanding sprite animation with top notch effects and amazing choreography this has definitely been one of if not the most anticipated dragon ball sprite animation on UA-cam but It was definitely worth the patience. I wonder what the next part of the story is going entail…

  • @Mostacs
    @Mostacs 2 роки тому +46

    "You've come dependent on your little dance " cause add Vegito's personality and sprinkle SSJ4 and you have absolute savagery.

  • @Tapha-um4zi
    @Tapha-um4zi 2 місяці тому +1

    If gogeta used the ultra instinct of Goku +kaioken and the ssj blue évolution of vegeta, he would defeat him without problem

  • @koolbeanzcomics4399
    @koolbeanzcomics4399 2 роки тому +157

    Ok three things:
    1: this was absolutely amazing and totally worth the wait
    2: I need to see a SS4 Vegito vs Baby Vegito Black. Or anything continuing BVB’s story!
    3: Speaking of Black, did any else catch that Goku Black pose @9:50

    • @crissanti8206
      @crissanti8206 2 роки тому +11

      True 9:50

    • @PinaPizzaParty
      @PinaPizzaParty 2 роки тому +2

      The next animation which is #16 should really be baby vegito black vs beerus. He teased it at 9 and still hasn’t continued it

  • @rakhimitra2193
    @rakhimitra2193 2 роки тому +114

    3:01 Base
    6:39 Ikari
    8:10 SS4
    11:16 FP SS4
    14:03 SS4 Limit Breaker
    6:18 Base
    6:31 God Essence
    7:58 SSB
    11:25 SSBE
    14:06 SSBE KX20

    • @fireiron369
      @fireiron369 2 роки тому +5

      Stay off God Ki folks.
      Gogeta couldn’t m last 15 seconds without his God Ki buzz 😂

    • @simplysupreme1030
      @simplysupreme1030 2 роки тому +9

      @@fireiron369 the funny thing is, that’s kinda hypocritical cause xeno vegito is using god ki everytime he transforms lmao. Thats why the xeno ssj4 are way stronger than GT’s

    • @fireiron369
      @fireiron369 2 роки тому

      @@simplysupreme1030 I mean true but he only used it to go FP and LB 🤷‍♂️😂

    • @simplysupreme1030
      @simplysupreme1030 2 роки тому +1

      @@fireiron369 nah they have it active all the time even in their regular forms although idk if hyro has these versions of them with it. The ones in heroes needed it tho cause CC goku using SSB is stronger than their ssj4. You probably right tho cause the super goku and vegeta here are way weaker than CC goku so even when fused vegito probably wasn’t trying lol

    • @johnnylawz
      @johnnylawz 2 роки тому

      I almost thought he went UI for a second when vegito absorbed the stardust spirit bomb😭 like the Same concept from super but I know it’s LB now

  • @williamortega5138
    @williamortega5138 2 роки тому +29

    That was simply breathtaking!!The animation,the fight coordination,the colors,the transformation,it's perfect!!I also loved the small plot being developed in your own universe and expanding upon it.Awesome vid!

  • @bitzbyte5880
    @bitzbyte5880 2 роки тому +20

    I love the art at 4:55 . It seemed so familiar, it bugged me, so I did some digging and it's the portraits for SSJ Goku and Vegeta Blue from Fighterz. That's super sick

    • @Kerbrygaming
      @Kerbrygaming 2 роки тому +1

      its actually for ssjb goku and vegeta from fighterz

  • @thegriffithwolf7071
    @thegriffithwolf7071 2 роки тому +30

    The effects from that battle was unique and the fight was so intense I was speechless, that was an amazing battle to ever witness and I'm wondering what's going to happen next with Goku Black.

  • @raintheapc
    @raintheapc 2 роки тому +26

    I'm glad to see you not giving up even when the times were hard for you. It's amazing for you to push back

  • @winglessangelful
    @winglessangelful 2 роки тому +31

    This was the best animation EVER from you brother you went above!!! Truly amazing stuff! You are an inspiration to all sprite animators and dragon ball fans!! You are only one person and LOOK at the amazing work you have created!!!

  • @shellyannwilliams2852
    @shellyannwilliams2852 2 роки тому +29

    This is amazing, this video goes to show to never underestimate SSJ4 Limit Breaker.

  • @ohmyoof3pizzaman205
    @ohmyoof3pizzaman205 2 роки тому +17

    Vegito: Talks alot of shit about killing gogeta
    Also Vegito: Oh I just realized you were trying to save your universe MB lol

  • @mohasetif833
    @mohasetif833 2 роки тому +20

    Not only Vegetto and Gogeta have evolved, you've evolved in animation as well, good job!

  • @ianssjg_gd
    @ianssjg_gd 2 роки тому +14

    *As a Both Vegito and Gogeta Fan... Vegito Wins All the way. The Potara Gives them an Extra Boost of power Without Limitations. I waited all year for this.* 10/10? Lmao not even close make it like 10000000000000/10 I love YOUR DAMN ANIMATIONS.*

    • @daikoru2511
      @daikoru2511 2 роки тому

      Especially in the guide it says not only a perfect fusion ( meaning he's one person) but it's also stated that he has a multiplier of the two beings fused into him ( A x B) aka goku × vegeta and it doesn't say it for the fusion dance so gogeta is just going off the fusion dance multiplier would be blue goku level but stays on that level because ( and I forgot to mention this earlier) but as goku and vegeta grow if they fuse and turn into vegito he gets way stronger than he was before so yeah there's alot of evidence that vegito is stronger than gogeta ( I could be wrong tho)

    • @SuperDylanater
      @SuperDylanater 2 роки тому

      potara does make for stronger fighter then fusion dance but it makes them cocky playful prideful this has cast Vegito the fight twice will the fusion dance Gogeta is weaker and yes he are still playful and little cocky but a lot more serious and wiser sees the bigger picture of the fight so the both have situation when should be used Vegito should be use when they need power and skill Gogeta should be use when seriousness and smarts over shadows need for greater power boost of the potara i am a fan of both Vegito and Gogeta they both have situations were they are the top dogs

  • @kueriguhoward5652
    @kueriguhoward5652 2 роки тому +2

    u should do 1 with SS5 Broly vs Full Power Jiren or something like i just wanna see SS5 broly

    • @Aecrim1
      @Aecrim1 2 роки тому

      SSJ5 Broly would just stomp Jiren tbh... Maybe a SSJ4 Broly to make it actual fight scene

  • @arandomperson4469
    @arandomperson4469 2 роки тому +22

    All this wait was worth it. Gotta give it you hyourin, you know your things. Seeing vegito's behaviour from the start , I thought he is going to kill goku and vegeta both. But I am glad and happy about the twist in the end.

  • @sotirissavva6720
    @sotirissavva6720 2 роки тому +52

    All the wait was worth it man. You work so hard everyday in order for this content to be top level, plus full time job. We salute you sir

  • @vgit2753
    @vgit2753 2 роки тому +25

    Imma be honest wit ya hands down these are the best animations I've seen up until now but I'm kind of disappointed that gogeta didn't win although he looked like he had a chance to,great content keep it up bro😁

    • @stevenreyes7779
      @stevenreyes7779 2 роки тому +6

      Same, my ass kept thinking he was gonna pull ultra instinct out of his ass and win lol

    • @legendarysaiyan3263
      @legendarysaiyan3263 2 роки тому +2

      Are yall dumb or haven't watched dbz bc elder kai said that potara is stronger of course gogeta was gonna lose

    • @legendarysaiyan3263
      @legendarysaiyan3263 2 роки тому +1

      And if yall say something about God ki that doesn't matter vegito is still stronger

    • @jimmy9282
      @jimmy9282 2 роки тому +6

      @@legendarysaiyan3263 he never said potara is stronger and the broly movie guides stated gogeta = vegito

    • @stevenreyes7779
      @stevenreyes7779 2 роки тому +1

      @@legendarysaiyan32631. He never said that, that was the dub 2. He meant it was superior because at the time there was thought to be no time limit with the potara

  • @AsreiMurasame
    @AsreiMurasame 4 місяці тому +2

    "Karoly and Karoly Black" xD

  • @Calebblue101
    @Calebblue101 2 роки тому +12

    The only reason why he took so long was cuz he got a banger girlfriend...
    Press F cuz we lost a legend...

  • @monarchvisuals7618
    @monarchvisuals7618 2 роки тому +33

    I can’t even put into words how cool this is! The intro, the fights, music, everything! Keep up the amazing work, and keep them coming!

  • @ZDragonWarrior3
    @ZDragonWarrior3 2 роки тому +20

    14:23
    I love that Vegito uses his new technique that forms a Yin and Yang in red and blue together as well as Gogeta's Stardust Big Bang Kamehameha too. Hyorin is really amazing at creativity about his own fan-made DB techniques for his What-If videos.

    • @PRESSTART8
      @PRESSTART8 2 роки тому +2

      The technique vegito use is Final Big bang dragon fist and it's so cool

    • @lunarSoul0
      @lunarSoul0 2 роки тому +2

      @@PRESSTART8 I thought it was just called Final Dragon Flash

    • @rakhimitra2193
      @rakhimitra2193 2 роки тому

      Its Combining 4 Moves (Final Flash + Dragon Fist to turn the Dragon Into Ki) + Big Bang Attack by Vegito Channeling his 2 Hands with 2 Different Energy Spheres and Kamehameha to Use it like a Literal Beam

  • @AnonyBoiii
    @AnonyBoiii 2 роки тому +31

    I love the insinuation that this video gives about wrathful, SSJ4 and their connections to Broly
    Like, could Broly have transcended into a ssj4-like state had he been allowed to fight for longer, and if he did how powerful would that make him. I’ve heard people say that the super Saiyan form that Broly displays in the movie is SSJ stacked on top of wrathful, so by that assumption it’s basically like golden great ape without the giant monkey. Doesn’t explain the full power ssj form (perhaps his enhanced potential? Or just for nostalgia tie-in to OG Broly).

    • @dmitribrutus5543
      @dmitribrutus5543 2 роки тому +1

      Considering that it took a fusion warrior like Gogeta in his Super Saiyan Blue was enough to take down Broly. So if Broly were to achieved Super Saiyan 4 by fighting him that long. Broly would have eclipsed Gogeta Blue, making him vastly stronger

    • @espresso387
      @espresso387 Рік тому +1

      @@dmitribrutus5543 blue gogeta was over kill for broly, fp broly was near ssj gogeta level, blue was used to end the fight before broly could grow too strong

    • @furiousgamerxz5141
      @furiousgamerxz5141 Рік тому

      Broly had stacked SSJ on top of Wrathful and then combined the 2 forms to make FPSSJ which is exactly what Goku did in GT where he stacked SSJ on top of Great Ape and then combined the forms to make SSJ4

  • @parkerrexquiem5181
    @parkerrexquiem5181 2 роки тому +60

    I see lots of people saying “rematch with MUI + UE Gogeta” but if I may ask, how does that even work? Iirc, Ultra Ego builds power by getting hit, but isn’t MUI’s whole thing dodging?

    • @nerdmakessillymovies
      @nerdmakessillymovies 2 роки тому +14

      Very true. I would love to see a mix of the transformations one day but the transformations go against each other’s principles so I shouldn’t work

    • @fireiron369
      @fireiron369 2 роки тому +19

      I always thought it would work like:
      Gogeta dodges every attack in Ultra Instinct but when he gets hit his eyes turn purple/yellow to symbolise Ultra Ego then he gets stronger from Ego taking damage.
      Basically Gogeta would be untouchable but whenever he gets overpowered Ego makes him stronger until he is untouchable again.
      Basically Ego makes Gogeta stronger than the opponent when he can’t dodge.
      Then Instinct makes him untouchable to the now weaker opponent.

    • @ZeroAoAnimations
      @ZeroAoAnimations 2 роки тому +11

      @@fireiron369 but thats a conflict on a personal level, one should not be able to rely on complete instinct and then emotions as they please, its literally meant to be opposite to one another symbolizing vegeta's desire to pursue strength different than goku's
      Im sure people would like to fuse them anyways cuz of the whole powerlevel shpiel, i just want to keep integrity when able

    • @fireiron369
      @fireiron369 2 роки тому +7

      @@ZeroAoAnimations I always thought Ultra Ego made Vegeta almost suicidal (ie throwing him into taking unnecessary damage) just because taking damage makes him stronger.
      Basically he thirsts for more power by any means even taking unnecessary damage.

    • @ZeroAoAnimations
      @ZeroAoAnimations 2 роки тому +2

      @@fireiron369 its just that instinct is better when its pure instinct, goku doesnt talk, his body is fully adaptive
      When ego is fuelled purely cuz vegeta is so emotionally driven into whatever hes doing during the forms activation
      It just doesnt mix well without just taking the cool factor while disregarding the core essentials of said forms, stuff like this is why i have some issues with powerscalers n such