The Wonderful State of Gaming on Linux in 2023!
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Let's talk about the current state of Gaming on Linux!
I was watching The Game Awards ceremony last week, when I realised that more than a half of all nominees were already available on Linux. According to the Steam Hardware & Software Survey, Linux user base reached 1.9% and soon, every fiftieth PC gamer on Steam is going to be gaming on Linux.
If your video card is AMD, gaming on Linux is simpler than that. The driver is open source, and seems much more robust than Nvidia's Linux driver. If you just look at the number of positive "flawless" reports of games working on protondb, you'll see many AMD cards and many of the issues reported there are on Nvidia hardware.
"nVidia, FU€|{ you" ~Linus Torvalds mlm do.ob
This.
if you're gonna use linux in any serious way, consider replacing your Nvidia card with a Radeon. Radeon, unlike on windows, excels at running many graphics APIs on linux.
The one thing I'd add though is that if you have to encode videos, then the open source driver doesn't support hardware acceleration for that. The Nvidia driver does.
Thankfully with Nvidia opening their driver modules since 5.15, we've been seen a lot of strides in the Nouveau driver.
Yes, I hear some say AMD Gpus work better on linux. I just got a 7800x3d and 7800xt system but not sure which distro to use that is stable with my hardware. I guess I have had some bad experiences with my old rtx3060 laptop . ChrisTitus say Debain 12, ARCH, and NIX... I thought Ubuntu was decent, just the problem was the fans ran all the time and the fps was a bit lower than when I played in Win11.
It looks like "The year of Linux desktop" is finally coming
keep dreaming
@@luimu With the steamdeck I don't even need to, I've got multiple friends using Linux now (:
2023 was the year of the Linux desktop.
May be next year
It's definitely inching closer and closer. And Windows putting ads in their apps and moving to subscription based models is going to push more and more away from it. I've been saying to myself that Windows 10 is the last Microsoft OS I'm going to use. Once they stop supporting that I'm jumping ship.
Unfortunately stuck with a rtx 3070 Ti though, so I'm hoping Nvidia support improves.. Even though much hasn't happened for the last 20 years..
its insane how fast and how well linux gaming has come. if valve can somehow figure out the anti-cheat situation for linux, and fixing some issues regarding x11 or wayland nonesense then windows could be in a bit of a pickle
@@Britishblue. the way the current anticheat trends are going, the opposite might be true. More and more games are leaning toward kernel level anti cheats, which most people (including me) consider an enormous security and privacy threat and will NEVER be implemented by anyone in the linux community, nor will ever be allowed by Linus himself. Unless game developers can create good anti cheats which aren't rootkits in disguise, gamers will have to stick to windows for many popular multiplayer games
@@askeladden450 I am of the opinion that people shouldn't really be playing games with incredibly invasive anti-cheats anyways. To each their own, of course, but I'll gladly not play a certain game if it is a threat to my privacy.
as far as i remember, isnt it already there? i remember when i was installing proton, and a specific game that require anti cheat, it does install a thing called anticheat, in the wine folder instead steam directory, and i able to run the game. it was a month ago
@@riza4033 most anticheat do work, except kernel level anticheats
@@askeladden450 well shit then, ill just go to qemu in that case
I really really want to make the switch to Linux, but so many of the games I play daily just won’t work on it. It sucks! I’m hoping we see a big shift in the industry soon, because I’m anxious as ever to leave behind Windows spyware. Super pleased with Valve for making such a big push towards that with the Steam Deck.
I was in your place. Last week while making a wire Windows had a glitch and made it twice. I had enough.
Nowadays it's easier to run games on Linux and even some of then such us Cyberpunk 2077 perform better . In the worse case scenario you can always use a virtual machine on Linux with windows.
@@javsanchez722virtual machines are usually not good for gaming. I'd recommend dual-booting linux and windows instead
@@javsanchez722 yeah, I’m about at my limit. It’s just feeling less and less worth the ease of use :/
There won't be, Windows will still dominate market and software, hardware, peripherals makers will continue to only properly support their stuff on Windows
@@BillyPage1337Good thing Wine exists
I bought my first Steam Deck with the launch of the OLED version (wanted to see what Valve could achieve with the first version before spending the money).
I tried switching to Linux about 5 years ago, but the problems with gaming is the reason I (reluctantly)switched back to windows.
About a year ago I passed my 3080 to my wife and bought myself a 7900xtx.
I think it's time to give linux another chance!
Do go ahead. The past couple years we've been seeing only great stuff in the Linux gaming world. I have a 3060 ti and I run Cyberpunk with graphics in ultra and ray tracing without any issues. It's still a little crazy to me
@@paulspl2581 that sounds amazing. If I compare that to the same game on windows with a 3080 (10GB), I'm hearing free gains 👌
I've been looking into the state of desktop Linux for over 10 years and always concluded, that It's not quite there yet where I could switch to it indefinitely. This year I finally made it happen. What helped me finally make the move was me installing linux on a external SSD so I could dual boot by way of making it preferred in the EFI boot order. I didn't have to try and boot Windows from Grub that way, which solves all the usual dual booting headaches. I installed and configured Linux and had peace of mind that all it took was to unplug the SSD to boot back into Windows.
I found Linux to finally be good enough to use exclusively.
"About a year ago I passed my 3080 to my wife and bought myself a 7900xtx" and that my guy is why sometimes I feel jealous of how easy women have it lol....I needed to save a lot to afford shit like that
@@sumomaster5585 to be fair, she wanted to get BACK into pc gaming after sticking to our PS4 pro and PS5 for a couple of years. She bought her own PC, the only reason I gave her my 3080 is because then I'd have an excuse to buy something better 😂 and I almost went full retard and bought a 4090. Hey, I might have money, but at least I've still got more sense.
Also I got lucky buying the 3080 on launch day for 750 euro. At the time I was doubting if I should do it because in my mind it was "way too expensive". I was happy 3 weeks later when I checked the prices again....
For me, once valve gets motion smoothing and automatic audio switching implemented in SteamVR for Nvidia cards, there's basically no reason left to stay on windows for me.
I moved to Linux Mint about 6 months ago, and the only issues I have with gaming typical come from games with Easy Anti Cheat. I've been uploading videos about my adventures if they ever have questions on if something works or not.
criminally underrated channel
I think another next big obstacle in linux gaming will be modding, just as an example modded mass effect le is a massive improvement in terms of graphics, content, and quality of life / bug fixes but getting those kinds of modifications working is definitely a hassle if its even possible (i know for mass effect i was never able to get them working on linux, reshade and reshade dependent stuff being the most difficult to work through imo)
It's really not that big of an issue on Linux with r2modman giving access to thunderstore mods and almost every mod I've installed have worked well. Unless the mod is using some esoteric windows specific thing, they work well under Proton.
I mean modding is still a shitshow on windows, I tried installing mods for palworld and it went crazty well, I didn't even need to dll overrides.
I really want Linux gaming to replace Windows, but unfortunately I won’t be switching until it is a true install>boot>play experience. The limited time I have for games I don’t want to be troubleshooting or fixing things. There’s always that one game that doesn’t work and you can’t play with friends.
Someday, someone will make a great video about Linux, open source, and anarchism. And I hope it will be this channel.
Imagine if Valve turns out to be one of the biggest reasons linux becomes common, a huge company bringing a free open source OS into popularity 😂
thats already true
It already is :)
The only reason I have still windows installed as dual boot is the lack of headtracking support for all my flight sims
I tried PopOS again for a while and the games actually ran better than on Windows (for some reason), but I ended going back to Windows because there were too many bugs with Steam. The client often crashed when opening the overlay, and some games did not work well with dual monitors. I'm really sad about it because I love PopOS and it's my favorite OS by far otherwise, but I can't accept crashing multiple times every session on a gaming computer, especially not while in ranked games :/
you could try zorin os or nobara
With Windows 11 around the corner and this promising state of Linux I am really considering a switch
"I don't mind spending half an hour tinkering my system" - haha I might have spent a lot longer configuring tiling window managers. Definitely worth the time to really make your system personal and streamlined though
Thanks for your takes man! I'm optimistic about the growth that videogames on Linux has made, especially after the rise of the Steam Deck
i love reluctant anarchist's videos. they are so well produced and edited!
I appreciate you uploading the video at a higher bitrate! not too many people do, and it makes such a huge difference on a 4k monitor.
As a Linux PC gamer for over 20 years (no seriously, this is a Wintendo free household for over a decade) I still find it mind boggling where we're today. And dead gods I love that Wild West attitude because I do walk the extra mile. I'm mostly into simulations nowadays and started building a cockpit to play various Space Pew Pew games and there is nothing stopping me from gaming _the way I want_ - the way it was always meant to be - because I can adapt, adjust or hack into anything. Oh and all the things I learned on the way… 🤓
Loki Software stood so Valve Proton could rocket down the street at 300mph.
@@logsupermulti3921 Loki was really ahead of it's time 😕 Also: Hey I still have some Loki games installed xD It's not like that stuff takes up gigabytes or something.
All Games need to work for Linux to be a good option for Gamers.
It would be awesome to see the state of native gaming in GNU/Linux. Maybe you have a video about it already?
No VR on linux = no migration for me
I've recently tried out a few games on Linux. 5 to be exact. 1 didn't want to launch at all, 1 had no music, 1 was a stuttery mess, 1 was "playable" and 1 worked like a charm.
I'm back on Windows now.
What games did you try out?
skil issue, ive been back on linux about a week and all games ran flawlessly minus the finals (if it isn't a skill issue, it could be a nvidia issue)
I personally wasn't a fan of Valve as a kid. I was very suspicious of them as most companies in their position leverage their power against the gamers. But over time it's come to be one of the last services that I feel actually sticks to its word and delivers. I always had hope for the Steam Deck, even when its future seemed iffy. Its now IMO one of the best options for so many different people, not even just gamers. It might not be the most powerful but it's highly refined, like a Lexus. I don't even own a Steam Deck, but I've seen the improvement its made to Linux gaming and I know people that have them and love them. Kudos to Valve
Valve like all companies don't give a shit about consumers, they are just worried MS is taking PC gaming seriously after how popular it's become and this is a preemptive move to establish Steam as the default Linux gaming platform alongside Linux as a viable gaming platform just in case pigs start to fly on Windows
the only barrier left for me is VR support for more headsets. I'm proficient in linux (i use arch btw), and all/most games i want would work there, but I can't fully move there without a more broad VR support. dual booting is incovenient, and something like vm/vfio on a desktop is dumb in general.
Please tell me you're un-ironically just dropping that you're using Arch. Nothing against it, if I switch to Linux it probably would be Arch. I just like the idea of the meme being true. "Arch users are like vegans, they can't help telling people" 😂
@@ssgtblackmamba7991 sorry to disappoint, but that was indeed ironic :)
@@ssgtblackmamba7991 although i do believe arch is teh whey
@@lasdernas damn 😂
IF I do choose to go with an Arch distro, I'll use the opportunity to at least once start a sentence with "As an Arch user..."😉
vr is a pain point for me as well. I have just found my self lately to rarely spend time with in it and if I do in vrc, so I was able to just say I use openhmd will less than perfect tracking.
will probably create a second drive with windows for a less painfull vr experience tho
I need a machine to atleast test my game on windows anyway xD
other than these two points and screen audio sharing on discord, my linux experience is painless, which is mainly due to my tools suporting linux anyway
Fun fact: testing 2 Pc's one with Linux and the other with Windows with the same Cpu and GPU, we'll games run 15/20% better in Linux!
The finals got Linux support
I had an issue with my pc months ago and couldn't get windows to work. I decided today to install ubuntu and i'm glad to hear I won't be missing out on much.
Lol stolen laptop
@@nena_nezali ???
It's really important to have options. I'm happy that gaming on Linux is becoming more approachable. I might try it myself one of these days.
Until Linux becomes much, much more beginner friendly to enter I don't really see it catching on and becoming popular enough anytime soon. That's the main issue with it since forever
true, no regular user is gonna start typing in commands like a dork, most people are only driven by visuals.
@@kristiant96 not only that, but the "simple" distros are never really simple. You download something from a website saying that its ready to go... until you want to do absolutely anything that's not already ready to use inside it.
@@StarmenRock i like linux but it's still not there it needs to learn from windows in that regard.
@@kristiant96 honestly i wish Linux programmers would just understand how casuals think about stuff. The only Linux i actually see regular people using nicely is Tails
@user-oh5qq3oq7t ive been meaning to, how good is it? I want something i can run parallel to windows 10 and something else that runs ok from a usb 3.0 flash drive
We're gonna see a massive boom in Linux userbase in not just gaming but OVERALL pretty soon, because of the evolution of AI. Optimizations and ease of use are about to skyrocket. Sick of Giant companies having a hold over markets, everything will change soon ✌🏽
If developers take up the Godot Game engine, it will make the exporting process for Linux builds that much easier
I've bought the Steamdeck to play all those older games I've never touched in my pile of shame. I also wanted to see the state of Linux gaming first hand. I was surprised by how many games actually worked and finally took the plunge a couple months ago by switching my PC to Linux. I'm now 100% windows free and luckily all games I wanted to play so far worked for me. I hate live serve games anyway so those anti-cheat issues luckily didn't affect me so far.
I had to put some time in to get my system to a point where I'm happy with it, but generally it works really well despite an Nvidia GPU. I don't plan to return to Windows anymore.
The time you had to put in to get your system where you are happy with it, will become just a quick thing you do in the future and don't even realize you do it. And Windows probably had similar things that you just did without thinking about as well.
@@lloydbond13 most of the time went to setting up the qtile window manager ;)
What was the modern classic at 2:35? And what is the skateboard game at 6:26?
2:35 is called Disco Elysium, skateboard game at 6:26 is called The Ramp
Great video! I'm a arch user because valve. My goal was left windows definitely and valve made that possible.
As a NixOS user I feel called out...
as an arch user i can't even begin to understand your pain (and i did use gentoo for a good while)
@@lasdernas Gentoo is respectable
Who’s here because of copilot recall nightmare ?
This is my first impression playing DOTA 2 linux with AMD vulkan native, its so fking smooth! Less stutter, no frame drops and less crash!. The downside is my usb cam borked, cant use my wallpaper engine at linux mint and no HDR support.
I agree so much with the last part of the video. Linux is becoming very important nowdays. From Windows 10 and 11, I feel like they want you to not have control over the computer anymore, like if you don't own your computer, but you are just allowed to use it as long as Microsoft agree (this come in many ways, like mandatory updates when system "guess" it should be, stupid impossible configurations like the shitty new context menu that try to force what you will see, start menu that always search the internet instead of showing the installed application because you don't spelled the name 100% correct, etc).
Welcome to 2030, you'll own nothing, neither privacy and you'll happy.
I bet you've been hearing this a lot lately
I'am still trying to run my battlefield 1 on linux , my KDE crashes when I try to close steam app , still a long way to go for linux gaming to be practical for the masses
I play BF1 on Arch Linux every day. I've got it working on both AMD and Nvidia, not sure what your issue is, BF1 has worked under Linux for years
5:50 whats the name of that game??
Remind me if someone found it.
@@dageta7742 I would but can’t find the game
It's called "En Garde!"
@@saintgtxThanks dude!
FPS games like PUBG and Warzone won't be coming to Linux in the near or distant future, imo. Both come bundled with intrusive levels of anti-cheat software that will not play nice with Linux.
The other hurdle you don't mention is gaming peripheral support. I had no means to install a very important firmware update to a Steelseries mouse. I still need Windows around just to configure mice and keyboards, everything from key bindings to debounce times.
Gaming on Linux has been mostly smooth sailing for me, but I did run into a minor issue with the drivers for my AMD card. I have a 7900xtx and it wasn't supported in a fresh install of Mint. It was easy to solve, I ended up upgrading my kernel from 5.15 to 6.5 and it simply worked.
Sehr gutes Video. Bin mit dem C64 und anschließend mit einem 386 SX25 groß geworden. Dos 5.0 und recht schnell, 6.22 und Windooof 3.1. War eigentlich immer zufrieden.... aber nachdem 8.1 raus kam, war ich unzufrieden und ich habe Linux ausprobiert, natürlich nur im Dual Boot oder auf virtueller Ebene. Nachdem Windoof 10 raus kam, habe ich mehr und mehr mit Linux experimentiert und ca. 70 Distros ausprobiert. Windows 11 habe ich ca. ein Jahr benutzt und bin mittlerweile Windooof frei. Im Moment benutze ich PopOS zu zocken und Manjaro im Dual Boot zum Arbeiten. Für den Notfall habe ich noch eine externe SSD mit Windows 11, aber hauptsächlich nutze ich nur noch Linux. Mittlerweile nutze ich neben PopOS und Manjaro, auch noch eine dritte SSD mit Batocera, damit ich meine Retro Games unbeschwert zocken kann...
As a rule of thumb if its not multiplayer it will run on linux
baldurs got some trouble on linux actually.... but then got fixed.
in fact for some users they needed to make some tweaks so the game could be playable :D
"Liberate PC games from Windows" is such a badass line to say 🔥🔥
I spent an entire weekend troubleshooting wayland. Installed Cinnamon, all of my issues disappeared.
The AMD open source driver got one problem, if you wanna do 120hz@4k with HDMI 2.1 you are out of luck. HDMIforum will not let them use the driver.
The Finals it's now supported officially on Linux!
I switched to Linux last year and have never been happier with my desktop experience.
The Finals actually works on Linux! Works good on the Steam Deck.
Apparently, the developers of the The Finals have enabled play on Linux
Until every game I want to play and Affinity V1 will work natively on Linux without any hassles or compatibility issues, I will never switch to Linux for anything but coding.
Great video! May I ask what model of laptop you use for gaming and which Linux distro you recommend for gaming friendliness, thx!
tried switching to linux pre proton, didnt happen, ran into issues after issues - recently installed hyprland on minimal arch, installed steam, protonGE via the protonupqt tool, lutris and wine via pacman and thats it, pirated loads of games and installed them via lutris, then added the installed .exe to steam library and running flawlessly with proton ge, some titles like overwatch i feel run even better than on my windows ... i play in top500 on overwatch pc i used to be quite the sweat and if there was any issues i wouldnt bother but its literally better?! highly prefer using linux for work and personal / general use, that being said i still log into windows to play league ... but linux gaming has made huge gains in such a short amount of time
I own both a steam deck and windows 10 desktop. The only thing stopping me from fully switching to linux is the anticheat issues. But if microsoft forces the switch to 11 i'll be making the jump and do without the games with anticheat. I wonder if emulating windows on linux is a viable work around?
Can you please do a video on how to play games on Linux? What do we need to install ...etc? Especially if you have a simple desktop environment (mine is bspwm and polybar). Also running on nvidia.
I'm on nvidia 1070GTX paired with a GSYNC-only monitor. I chose "Pop! OS" because it comes with proprietary nvidia drivers (if you choose the nvidia iso download) out of the box. And pairing this with Heroic Games Launcher means I can quickly install and run GoG, Amazon and Epic games. Plus Steam is available and runs fine too.
linux needs proper HDR support and then I could go all-in.
kde plasma has good support now
I am able to play the finals just fine on linux... I had a few crashes but not too many, it works just fine and is absolutely playable on linux, though i needed experimental proton, normal one wouldnt work
What's the game at 2:35
Command & Conquer
I've been wanting to switch to Linux for years and tried many times, but Windows keeps pulling me back.
Today, Linux is in a much better state then it was just a few years ago, but I find that the biggest barrier is that there are so many different distros, pulling in all directions that confuse users and isn't a strong incentive for developers to target when the standard keeps changing all the time.
Valve with SteamOS could do what others can't, especially if SteamOS gets popular, they could create a platform that developers from apps to games know what to target and in the case of gaming through Proton, that offers one massive advantage over native on Linux, long term support that the game will work many years from now, I've seen it many times when the Linux build of a app or game isn't as good as the Windows build or that if it's closed source, there's no guarantee that the software will continue to work years from now, with Proton, that solves that problem by the Proton layer keeping the compatibility, in other words, Linux can change under the hood all it wants, as long as Proton changes with it, the software that runs through Proton should stay compatible, that is the game changer with what Valve achieved with the Steam Deck and SteamOS.
All the foundations are in place with Linux, but too many distros pulling in all directions with their own standards, package formats and so on, puts users off, SteamOS could change that where games and apps could run just as easy as they do on Windows and if developers can build one build of their software or game that runs on Windows and Linux, there's more of a chance they will support both, one build is far easier to maintain and optimise and as Proton is doing the compatibility layer, what's being changed under the hood on Linux has less of an impact on it.
To put it another way, if Valve release SteamOS for any device to use and support it well, including polishing the Linux desktop side of things, I would dump Windows and use that and I suspect many others would.
Most Distros are derivatives of either Debian, Arch Linux or Fedora and these are majorly different only in the form of how they handle packages and if they focus on getting the latest versions and being on the bleeding edge (Arch Linux) or to give a stable system (Debian) or even maintain a mix of the two (Fedora).
Most downstream distros are only based on standards that they implement.
I think we can thank the steamdeck and valves proton for the rise in linux games. Because devs will try and make it steamdeck compatible and if its steamdeck compatible its linux compatible
still waiting for a solution for the anti cheat issues...
most games i actively play don't run on linux and it sucks because i have it on my laptop and my second PC. just my gaming rig still has cancer 11 installed...
you could pick better games, you know. there are a lot of them out there.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 oh you again... i don't waste my time with trolls.
@@PSXman9Funny, you seem to be the one trolling. There is no solution to wait for when game developers force their games to not run on Linux.
@@ordinaryhuman5645 you are literally stalking people with your bs. all across youtube.
just f off and leave me alone.
@@dreaper5813 what do i "lose"? i do what i want and some loser in a youtube comment section that upvotes its own comment will not change that.
what a clown
If they fixed the multiplayer issue id be done with windows. I mainly use my mac, but have a pc for gaming. Id love to tinker around with some mac like linux OSs
5:19
Can I please have the wallpaper image???
It looks like Plasma default, but much more beautiful...
please
please
please...
It's a photo of the Annapurna mountain range, shot by Jonny James!
unsplash.com/photos/three-mountains-covered-with-snow-3no88nSvK88
@@ReluctantAnarchist Thanxxx! A lot!!! I will never remove it since now...
I really want to thanks everyone involved with Valve's proton, gamescope and their mothers for this.
So I am now on OpenSuse for 1 day. I have a steamdeck too and Linux to me is the 'you need to be able to code' OS for no sane reason. Firstly, VRR will break Linux on nVidia without a second monitor to turn it off or the video feed goes blank. Gamescope, Mangohud needed to be installed. DS3 (Dualshock 3) needs for some reason a pin typed in whereas on SteamDeck it just works. Other controllers will work like DS5. Depending on the distro, typing passwords is everywhere. Audio crackles due to nVidia or the distros issues with the PC specs. Discord crashes when showing a window to people due X11 vs wayland issues. Wayland flickers windows of unsupported programs. Gamescope does not work on nVidia. Audio is not as good as on Windows due to drivers. Game modding, legacy tools for homebrew, capture cards and more are missing or do not run.
I am going to use the first SteamDeck whenever I get the OLED as a different DIstro test device. My main PC with 2 drives, will go back to windows 10, Sh t up W10 will be installed.
Linux is all config files. Windows is just works with GUIs. DOS is easier due to GUI in Terminals with ascii stuff.
I am addicted to original consoles being routed through my capture card Elgato 4kHDR. Should have gone with a professional card but depending on my choice like USB C 40gbit then I need to upgrade my USB chipset / PCIE expansion card. or similar to be open source / no drivers.
For notebooks and privacy / payments / similar stuff - linux is great. NO ONE IS EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENT SETUPS on Distros like how far the security goes with pw and auto drive mounting and SD cards and so on.
For gaming Win10 is best. W11 crashes my PC for some odd reason. Maybe the previous bios version from release time. AM4 motherboard. Someday, if MS chooses to get even worse, the only way is too use custom windows 10 versions, debloated and from the high seas. The plug and play nature of windows with no awkward dependencies and shared backends which just cant simply work well and have no GUI just make things unbearable to some extend except when the computer is made for Linux, driver-wise. Windows is more like >>think inside the boxoutside the box
I would look into Bazzite, Pop_OS!, or Mint for a better experience.
Bazzite is basically identical to Steam OS
Pop_OS! provides a good driver and UX experience
Mint is probably the closest to Windows in terms of gui support with the Cinnamon desktop.
I am here to sing the praises of garuda linux for people that want to go from windows to linux. jumped 200ish distros and windows environments....garuda was the only one that actualy just worked. With all the anoying config stuff already done. 10/10 recomendation.
That's what I'm using right now, has been pretty great. Soon as they get some of the larger multiplayer games working Windows will be pointless for any PC enthusiast.
"Linux is the Wild West" 😂
Perfect description for Linux. Been using nothing but Linux for the past 2 decades at home and for gaming 🤘🤘
That state of gaming isn't bad at all. I've played quite a few games through steam that were for windows only on my debian machine. That said, gaming on a laptop sucks if you have switchable graphics...
04:01
No Destiny 2
No UbiSlop
No CoD crap
No shovelware online garbage
So what's the bad news?
2024 update: The Finals has been ported to linux
at this point I gave up on Publishers/Developers releasing a native Linux game. What I look forward now is a Chromebook (keyboard & mouse) friendly Android game.
For me, I think native linux is a false economy. Why? Because you get API rot in Linux. Games will need to constantly be recombiled and updated. And this never happens. So what does happen with native? Day 1 game is great. Year 5, game crashes on run. That is why proton is the best we can achieve and for games marked as Platinum for Proton, these will work great. And keep running years later. Because of DirectX api (and others) which is not allowed to rot and must maintain compatibility.
@@bobmcbob4399 can't say I disagree, windows having majority (almost monopoly) pc gaming I hate so much. I hope things change for Linux to be a worthwhile platform to develop for and to maintain
I installed ubuntu on a spare gaming pc I had laying around doing nothing thinking ubuntu was the best for steam linux gaming but even with proton enabled it's a hit or miss whether games work or not 😭
"without a hassle" is a bit of stretch but agreed, it's been going great
Thought. "screw it" last night and dual booted Linux with windows after swearing against it 10 years ago .. WOW Linux has come such a long way for gaming and workstation use , I'm tempted to just run Linux on my next PC and use a Windows Vm when needed
Gaming is awesome on Linux through Steam. I learned about Proton recently and I think this is the smartest thing Valve has ever done. Most users migrating over from Windows are going to be Linux newbies and they won't want to spend hours fiddling with Wine settings for each of their favorite games. Steam is positioned to grab up about 95% of casual gamers coming over from Windows.
Linux is the future of gaming!
I sure as hell hope so cause after the whole recall I want to switch to something else
It seems like the meme of the year of the linux desktop is on the way. Its a slow march and we don't know when we'll get there, but we will. So we should be patient and march on.
It happened this year, 2023. My gaming desktop is now only running Linux.
Nvidia is the only villain in this story sadly
Bro just casually dunks on every other art form
5:30 🎮 name pls 🙏 😢
Uncharted Lost Legacy
I pretty much only play older games, so for me there aren't that many games that won't run. Although, I don't have discrete graphics and I bet those that don't would work on a Steam Deck.
We need a more free and resilient desktop experience for everybody, and that's why I really want the Linux desktop to be even better.
I have nothing against Windows particularly, but the world being reliant on this single propertary desktop OS made by one corporation is kinda bad.
Governments, small and big companies, schools, universities, hospitals, etc; everywhere you go, there's always Windows. Microsoft is not inherently evil, but it's still a corporation, and like any corporation, it can do lot's of bad stuff if it is profitable, and they know they can get away with it
Same applies for Google and Apple
Does not matter which proton and steam setting it does not detect my controller ... Debian , linux mint , mx linux etc , So still stuck with win 11 especially for iracing 😞
I am fully over into Linux gaming now.
I want to switch to Linux but Iam worried about h/w compatibility. My spec's: 13700k, asus z790 prime wifi mb, gigabyte 4080, 4tb gen 4 nvme, 2 tb gen 3 nvme. I was thinking of Zorin 17 but im open to anything that will work. use case: gaming, video and photo editing. Iam also teaching 2 young grandchildren so if i have to do too much trouble shooting Iam afraid they will become disinterested. Thank for any advice you could offer.
I'm on nvidia 1070GTX paired with a GSYNC-only monitor. I chose "Pop! OS" because it comes with proprietary nvidia drivers (if you choose the nvidia iso download) out of the box. And pairing this with Heroic Games Launcher means I can quickly install and run GoG, Amazon and Epic games. Plus Steam is available and runs fine too.
As much as I'd love Steamdeck sales to equal incentive for game dev's to think of Linux compatibility it doesn't. On the one hand the fact that Linux is significantly less painful to game on than it used to be and Steamdeck popularity are great, but on the other major AAA studios barely seem to be able to put out fully functional games on release now a days, never mind also making sure it's going to work for potentially 2 out of every hundred users and Anticheat only makes it worse.
That said I recently moved my main workstation over to Pop OS after finally being done with MS (or more specifically windows 11) and was pleasantly surprised to find only 1 game I play on a regular basis wasn't playable on Linux. I still have to run Windows for some other apps anyway so it's not that big a deal to me to run that one game on a second PC that runs windows but I know a few people who would move except for VR support or games that don't work because of anti cheat.
All in all definitely a much better experience than the last time I tried but Linux still has a long way to go before the 'average' user/gamer would probably care and market share is what is needed to get software dev's to care more about Linux.
only thing keeping me from completely jumping over to linux is a lot of 3d programs i use for work only work on windows, if they were to jump to linux holy hell i would be over so fast, my side laptop i have for travel is already linux running fedora and my phone is running ubuntu touch.
I like linux on mobile devices, but kde and gnome use too much ram. Now I use xfce, openbox and hyprland for media and steam bigUI mode.
Thank you, Steam Deck.
I recently tried linux mint for the first time as i am interested in switching to linux and was told that mint is generally the easiest to understand out of the box. I searched the game i play most on protondb and was told it had a gold rating, i download it and play on experimental, and it was a choppy mess. i AM on a gtx 1660 but its apparently completely compatible with mint. being able to LAUNCH a game does NOT mean its a playable or enjoyable gaming experience, and ill be sticking to windows for now.
that said, as linux gaming continues to grow, ill be looking to try it again, but for now i wouldnt say linux is a good gaming experience for your average gamers looking to swap to linux if you expect to be able to play “supported” games with “good compatibility” with decent performance.
if they add hdr in linux i will use it because i have an oled monitor
so what do you prefer OS for gaming in linux?
Just because a game works on Proton doesn't mean that the developers did any work with the Deck in mind
The fact that a developers game works on Deck isn't necessarily an indication that they are interested in the Linux market. I'll take it with a grain of salt
I need full Linux support. Going over to Linux to use steam is fuqin retarded. Why would I want to jump out of one prison to land in another one. Steam Linux is NOT the answer. So I might as well stay over at Microsoft priso for the time being.
You do know that "Proton" is open source right? You do know you can use it without ever installing Steam right? You should probably learn more about it.
Once this reaches above 90% a few years in a row is when Linux is perfectly ready for use for pretty much everyone. I hate win 10 and win 11. The moment support is dropped for win10 im going ubuntu or mint. Maybe even SteamOS
I love using linux and gaming on linux has come a long way!
I still use windows because i like everything computery.
Game creators are still the road block to linux gaming.
cant wait for steamos widely available for gaming, or maybe in the future console would use steam os