The Darkstalkers Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 14 лис 2020
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Darkstalkers. Remember in the 2010's when Capcom kept hinting at another entry, and all we got was a poorly marketed bundle? It's pretty awful that Darkstalkers had so much potential - just a totally incredible fighting series - and got dumpstered because ThErE iSnT aNy FaN iNtErEsT
This one's mildly personal, because I was really hoping for a proper revival in the mid 2010's. Now we're stuck with an autopsy.
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Let's not forget they were using Morrigan's original sprites for crossovers as late as Capcom vs. SNK 2
Lol yes. That shit stood out like a sore thumb
I'm genuinely shocked they didn't have an unlockable 2D Sprite Morrigan for the most recent VS Capcom titles.
@@TeryJones
Its seriously fucking sad, especially with how UP-TO-DATE EVERYTHING ELSE LOOKED!
MST3000 Cast: *THEY JUST DIDN'T CARE!!!*
Seriously, with the exceptions of Puzzle Fighter 2 and Pocket Fighter they used the same bloody sprites from 1994 in every game she appeared in all the way up until fraking Tatsunoko vs. Capcom on the Wii when they finally gave her a 3D model.
@@fawfulmark2 They made only few additions in mvc games, that's it, nothing else :-(.
1:48 Ah yes, Rikuo. The strangely attractive fish man.
Fish people
@@paulakroy2635 My headcannon says that Sidon (from Breath Of The Wild) is his long distance son........ Hot fish bois come from the same lineage xD
Though not the only one.....
🤤
Curiously attractive indeed
"That's a fetish 🎶"
"That's a fetish 🎶"
"That's a fetish 🎶"
"Would you KNOCK IT OFF???"
@@TECH097 I hate the fact that this spawn a slew of Jon Talbain inflation art.
@@heardofrvb and the vore 🤮
@@OpGamer56728 lol baby
He's not wrong though
Also don't forget that Udon Entertainment, the people who did the HD Street Fighter 2 came to Capcom and asked to remake Darkstalkers with beautiful HD artwork which Capcom refused and then released Darkstalkers Resurrection.
My pet theory is that capcom didn't want to shell out the money for art assets given the insane standard of the original trilogy. Even now its crazy how many moves there are that have unique hit animations for EVERY character.
At this point it feels like Capcom is almost ashamed of Darkstalkers...outside of making cameos and being guest characters they won't touch the series with a ten foot pole
It’s better than what Cyberbots gets.
@@Mito383 We do have Capcom Fighting collection.
Dark stalkers in a nutshell
Every character is likely someones fetish
*cat girl*
*fish man*
*succubus girl*
*Chinese vampire girl*
*man in a wolf fursuit*
Reaper with an Inflation fetish.
Don't forget big hairy beast
A bee fetish
Monster girl fetish
That's "Academy Award-winning fish man" to you, buddy
*sigh* should be called "The cruel, unfair, too soon, unwarranted, insulting Death of Darkstalkers" when it comes to Capcom their refusal to make a new darkstalkers hurts me more than anything they've done(I miss my girl Hsien-Ko so much)
Man I wish Darkstalkers would comeback. All these fighters doing well and Darkstalkers is nowhere to be found
I know, right?? WE GOTTA BUILD SOME MEGA-HYPE FOR DARKSTALKERS!!~ :D
because capcom doesn't need or want to sadly. street fighter will always sell off of popularity alone as long as the game looks good, because capcom will hook that sucker up to an iv unit and dripfeed it updates until people start liking it.
mvci was a flop, darkstalkers died a while ago.
capcom is basically standing on ice carefully trying to walk forward and not capsize. re7 and the remakes were well received, dmc5 was well received, and the daigyakuten saiban series is finally being localized for western audiences. but i think capcom is a lot more hesitant to invest in more fighting games because sfv was trashed on hard during release and for its first year, and mvci died in like 3 months. i feel like they don't really feel comfortable taking risks because every time they did in recent memory it bit them in the ass.
I've been hoping for the same. From everything I've read, it won't ever come back 😢
I'm keeping hope alive for them. If we can't have a new Darkstalkers game, we should at least have the characters as Street Fighter DLCs.
Well, Street Fighter V has Akira Kazama from Rival Schools, so who knows, maybe Street Fighter 6 might add one.
Why settle for that? If you're going to hope, hope for the best.
Dude , dont be so low . Hope for a sequel and not for small things that people just ignore since the megaman legends 3 debacle . Capcom needs some mental slaps to learn more lessons .
Im already satiated with Resident evil , Monster hunter and Street fighter . Another Shoryuken , Rathalos or jill sandwich and im puking out my joy for capcom titles.
How about a new Dino Crisis , Redearth , cyberbots/armored warriors, Star Gladiator , Rival schools , Megaman legends , Power (fucking) stone , Maximo , Darkstalkers ( fitting for the video) , Godhand , Viewtiful Joe , Dragons Dogma or Breath of fire ?
Dammit , im always enraged by capcoms dense retardation for missing huge opportunities and forgetting that they have a huge library of awesome IPs to be made .
@@Snyperwolf91 thank you for that.
Same here as both me and my friend are also hoping that we get a new Dark stalkers game especially considering the fact that capcom has been doing a really good job with all their other franchises.
Two interesting tidbits I will ALWAYS love about Darkstalkers:
- The animation quality is so crisp and well done it's used as a teaching tool in many animation schools. Look up "Darkstalkers and the 12 principles of animation"
- Amingo and Ruby Rose were designed for a Darkstalkers 4 game. They were so loved they got included into MvC2 when the DS game was cancelled just because of how much the team loved them.
Yes, But WHAT ELSE Has Amingo and Ruby Rose Been in Since? ....I thought so. (Also its Ruby Heart, not Rose)
Yes! As an artist myself that's what caught my eye about Darkstalkers the first time I played it
I think you meant Ruby Heart
That makes so much sense, they fit so well.
It sucks that Ruby Heart wasn't included in any other game after, she was fabulous
At least MvC will always keep Darkstalkers alive just a little bit. Oh shit.
Kinda. Last MVC only had two of them appear, I wouldn't be shocked if they stopped featuring them.
@@danielramsey6141 They'll never drop Morrigan, she escaped the fate of her own franchise.
The more strange thing is than they always bring back some of the darkstalkers characters specially Morrigan and Lilith but Capcom never made more things about darkstalkers itself
As one other reviewer pointed out....The Characters Outlived their own series. I Mean, Jon Talbain Fucking got a Death Battle this Year! YOU KNOW HOW LONG It's BEEN SINCE HE WAS IN ANYTHING!?!
It's probably because some of the girls are loved by H artists.
@@XelchanTheBrave ohohoho Mans of culture know some of those Art's in a really perfect away if you know what a am saying
But yeah usually it's because of the Fanservice of Morrigan or Felicia (and Dimitri too sometimes since he is the protagonist)
But it's strange that sometimes too with games like Teppen (Capcom card game) and project X Zone They bring almost everyone of darkstalkers to make part of the game and they still don't make a darkstalkers 4
Even street fighter have costumes dlc for darkstalkers, of almost everyone, for the girl and the man's too
@@berylalmark5624
Only two guys got Dimitri and Donovan.
And there Were More Female Character Costumes than males!
That Shows you the Level of Disparity!
@@danielramsey6141 it's because of Fanservice and the game have more Focus/Fans how are man , because we make the great part of public how play the game, and Capcom need to aim for the away to get more money so it's nothing that wrong about this
I never played Darkstalkers myself but Darkstalkers Is one of those series that really needs a comeback.
You didn't really miss much tbh
PLAY IT. I grew up with the series, I'm getting back into it now and it's absolutely great. Capcom will never be this lit again and that saddens me to no end.
@@BridgetGX Darkstakers was needed back then because Capcom likes Horror/action games. However they have both Resident Evil and Devil May Cry, so Darkstakers is no longer necessary. This quote comes it up" This town not big enough for the two of us".
I need the full song to "That's a Fetish" before 2020 is over please.
HAS SOMEONE UTTERED THE WORDS DEAD CAPCOM FRANCHISES?
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED!
"Darkstalker are not dead!" proceeds to make *****y compilation that turns everyone off.
Proceeds to not release said collection on PC and gives up on the entire franchise due to lack of sales...
@@thechugg4372 Yup, the games havent even released on Ps4/Xone 8 years in. Darkstalkers lack of sales is a self fulfilling prophecy at this point
DARKSTALKERS ARE NOT DEAAAAAAAAAAD [cries in lowers morrigan sprites]
I remember getting Darkstalkers on PS1 through some long forgotten means. It was a freaking blast!
And Morrigan will forever be one of my first waifus 😩
Hsien-Ko was one of my first waifus, the series is full of peak waifu material
No Capcom franchise is truly dead until their crossover appearances end.
“Thats a fetish, thats a fetish, thats a fetish, would you knovk it off” my favorite quote of all time
This was so good. Your research into the nitty-gritty mechanics of the game was exactly what I wanted more of from Sphere Hunter's video on Darkstalkers. Not to focus too much on comparisons but the two of you are my favorites out there in the scene right now.
God bless that one dude who still fought for the series... and then left
Granted, Vampire Hunter 2 is a weird update that's basically supposed to be Vampire Hunter but with Vampire Saviors Mechanics.
I want Darkstalkers to come back so badly. And if there’s a threesome of games that I feel needs talking about from you Mr. Kbash, perhaps you could look at Fossil Fighters?
Oh played the 1st fossle fighter
Dark stalker or better known as : the game who did accessibility soo right, it span a sub genre in fighting games. Also rng push guard
To say the least: they used it's engine as the base for X-Men CotA, which would later go on to evolve into the Marvel vs. Capcom games.
This franchise has so much potential
It's disgusting how dirty they did Darkstalkers... ;( That game is ten times more fun than Street Fighter!!~ X3 (I respect SF, though) All I want is a new game from the franchise with all the characters, color palletes, etc. Kinda like a 3D collection combining all 3 of the first games. :3 Just release that shit around Halloween then BOOM, Profit. ;) Oh yeah, & 2 storymodes: "Original" & an "Afterwards" that shows what the characters gone through since after their original endings. :3 ...& some new costumes would be nice. :3
I doubt that it will make more profit than SF. Also worth mentioning that fighting game in general are becoming more niche and saturated. Capcom at this point probally doesn't want to take any risk with the genre anymore
This game became irrelevant when Children of the Atom came out.
If they come back the game should embrace it's Darkness and be rated M. I don't want it to be MK, just go all in on the demon atmosphere and sexy time
@@X-Axel *YES.*
It's like street fighter, but with the adams family cast
AAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY Kbash coverin darkstalkers HELL YEAH! I remember playing chroinicles on my psp literally till my thumbs bled. I havn't touched a fighting game since.... still would really like to see capcom bring it back in ALMOST any way.
Nightwarriors: Darkstalker's Revenge was the first game I have ever played, and since that formative age the series has held a sacred place in my heart.
I'll never forgive Capcom for what they did to my first video game love.
Wasn't my first game but it has a special place in my heart too. Its sad
Blame Children of the Atom....
Those names really confused me when I was getting into the series
Capcom could use the fame of other franchises of theirs to boost hype for a new Darkstalkers, if they find it's not enough by itself. Add suitable characters to the roster, like Firebrand, Arthur, Dante, Trish, Lucia, and bring Abyss, Ruby Heart, Amingo and Son Son back from MVC2. First thing they can't do is leave out any of the old characters, even if they use Dee instead of Donovan, for example, Donovan should become unblockable once you finish the game with Dee (for free or after successfully completing some "missions"), which would connect to Donovan's ending in Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge. That way we could also have an adult or teenage Anita as a playable character with her telekinesis possibly unlocked by a new traumatic event or revelation. I'd even add a "ghost" or demonic version of Gen from Street Fighter and an Oni version of Akuma because of Udon's Akuma Vs. Hell. Bring back Darkstalkers 3's mechanics and what fighting game player would want to miss out on that? I waited years to get SFV at a cheaper price, but I'd pay full price on day one for a new Darkstalkers game like that.
you did a great job explaining what made the series so cool & expressing real excitement about it! i knew literally zero about darkstalkers at the beginning and i was legit sad by the end, really want to try and find some people to start playing the good one with now
I just really like Morrigan, Felicia and Lei Lei. That's why I was remembered it as a kid. The waifus.
@Xose de Jesus Hurtado Avalos
Yeah, while I remember DarkStalkers for the waifus, I also liked other characters like Jon Talbain and Lord Raptor, and Victor Von Gerdenheim. I liked Liked Jon and Raptor so much I created rip-offs and a teenage rule 63 Morrigan Aensland...
And now that I think about it, I kinda ripped of Hsien-Ko too. Crap... >_>
I kind of see Skullgirls as a nice Darkstalkers successor, including carrying the curse.
Wait aren't they updating the game with a new Character? Or am i missing something?
@@SirVolt they are, Annie of the Stars is in mobile already and slated to release for 2nd Encore next year.
RIP to my favorite fighting game franchise. It hurts, man.
As awful as I am at fighting games, I played a lot of them because I loved the characters, darkstalker especially
I just watched Darkstalkers videos from Sphere Hunter and Matt McMuscles...and now KBash uploads this.
And Thorgi did a video on making Darkstalkers 4.
Plus Jon Talbain is in a Death Battle against Sabrewolf just recently. Not sure where all this Darkstalkers resurgence is coming from, but I'm not complaining.
@prickly pear Official Leaks says otherwise. It's dead.
That "OH NOOOO"
Bro GENUINELY lost his heterosexuality to a fishman.
From someone whos really not doing too well right now; I appreciate you and your great videos to help get my mind off of things whenever I need a distraction. ❤
Your channel is so underrated bro you deserve at least 100k subs by now. Love your vids!
DARKSTALKERS ARE NOT DEAD.
Now Let’s just hope the collection is decent.
Seeing this as someone who never got to get into the games themselves and was/is just ENAMORED with the series’ art style, it’s a fucking shame to learn how downhill everything went for the fans and any passionate members of the dev team
I feel happy to see the list of patrons even bigger now. I enjoy this content so much
I wanted to get into this sieres but I literally can't without emulation, it's
BOOLSHET
Everyone is talking Darkstalkers keep this up and Capcom might listen
"That's a Fetish, That's a fetish, That's a fetish, COULD YOU KNOCK IT OFF!?"
Why does that sound like it could be part of a song🤣
Thorgi making a Darkstalkers 4 Build the Roster, Sphere Hunter's Darkstalkers video, Death Battle's Sabrewolf vs John Talbain....lots of Darkstalkers videos lately. Hehe, think Capcom's noticed.
Gotta ask outta curiosity, Marvel vs Capcom 4, only 3 Darkstalkers get picked for the starting roster, who do you pick? I want Morrigan, John Talbain, and Lord Raptor.
I'm sick of morrigan. Give me Demitri
Morrigan, Donovan, and Demitri would be pretty good picks imo
Fuck it, Reiko, Pyron, and my Man Jon T.
Demitri, B.B.Hood, Rikuo
Always improving my Sunday's as always
What I wouldn't kill for Darkstalkers in the RE engine... and this is coming from someone who's experience with the series is Project X Zone, can't imagine what the fans would do
I still have hope that darkstalkers will return
You all better buy that Capcom fighters collection. Its the only hope left for a new Darkstalkers game.
Darkstalker Ressurection? More like Darkstalker Burial. Am I right or am I right fellas???
I can't believe they made a game about the vampire lady from Marvel V.S Capcom
when you make the thumbnail for these videos def make sure the pose is as recognizeable as possible/every iconic shape of the character is showing. i luv ur thumbnail templates since the soul caliber one
The franchise might be gone...but we might be seeing these characters again...stay tuned
Good video and great insight on its initial downfall. I still stand by the notion that Darkstalkers 4 is needed, now more than ever, and many other fallen franchises like Rival Schools and Gem Fighter should be brought back. Also, some decent ports of the old stuff so newer fans will know why putting Akira Kazama in Street Fighter V is such a big deal.
Hsien-ko is a perfect cinnamon bun who was too perfect for this world
I think the Anakaris jokes should come with an asterisk noting that one of the best DS players in the world is an Anakaris player. The game really is that balanced
That does say a lot about the game's balance considering Anakaris is dookie-tier in DS3
"Stop me if you heard this one...Dead Capcom franchise."
*YOU HAVE BEEN STOPPED-*
Glad ya back my guy
This is a crazy career turn around but your making some great content Drake Bell! Keep it up.
Took a break from classic KOF playthroughs this summer. Started Darkstalkers to get back to Capcom stuff.
Game is great on fightcade!
(Update: we get Capcom fighting collection now!!)
Ah yes, Capcom's tendency of judging frachise interest by selling dumb, unwanted, cash grab games and checking if it sells.
Thank god Devil May Cry turned alright, they rebooted the franchise after 4 didn't sell as they were hoping (the game sold well, they wanted more) then based franchise interest on the HD collection and re-release of 4 to see if a fifth game would sell.
yeah we were lucky to not lose DMC
Darkstalkers is great and I actually think if they made a new game it would do really well. Who doesn't like monster gurls and boyz? Skull Girls did really well so I think if a new game was done in the right way it would be successful.
Skullgirls was definitely the spiritual successor to DarkStalkers and the inspiration was obvious. Also the longer we go without a new game, the more people want one. If we got a trailer for DarkStalkers 4 tomorrow, it would break the internet, at least the parts where fighting game fans congregate.
Wow, another video about the fall of Darkstalkers. I love being suffered :).
Why is your content so good
I'm still playing Darkstalkers Resurrection, sad that the game is dead. I never find anyone to play with. :(
Nice set dude!
Oh, I initially read "Darksiders"... oh, well
He does have a darksiders video, actually.
awesome video man really hope darkstalkers can make a return someday it be ashame for such a cool fighting game to stay dead
Im here for you Kbash. Havent even looked yet... but im here
Awesome description on what happened to Dark Stalkers
It's too bad it was a really cool series I remember when the game first came out back in the day in the arcade, The music was incredible the characters were incredible and the gameplay was incredible,
It's sad to see it gone from further updates
being said awesome content as always 👊👊🔥🔥
I hope they make one. I never played Darkstalkers, but I played MVC1 years ago at an arcade machine and really loved Morrigan for her design(I was like 10, she awakened something in me). But as I looked more into the game lately, the whole cast and game itself looks cool. I like how "dark" it is.
I grew up with DarkStalkers 3 and I think Morrigan did that with a lot of us
Another fantastic video. Couldn't relate more when you said "We like mechanics here." Thank fucking God somebody does. I don't think I know any other UA-camr that's better at interpreting the story those mechanics tell.
ITS COMING BACK BABYYYYY
I was just thinking to myself the other day for you to make this
I always like to think Dark Stalkers inspired Killer Instinct and KI had to add a bit more humans to make it different
I'm gonna cry of happiness if Darkstalkers come back
okay but we all know if ono spearheaded a darkstalkers 4, it would've been ass, right?
This one gets it
Yes, it would be hot garbage, it's better this way.
Also, by 2010 Guilty Gear was pretty well-established, and going by the description here Darkstalkers sounds like a direct predecessor to Guilty Gear.
Wildly different character mechanics across a colorful and unique roster, chain combos, the way air-blocking vs ground functions, etc.
undeniable truth. and with the past 'love" Capcom has put into their Fighting Game franchises I'm glad that it didn't release lately
Ono is out so... a great opportunity to rise from the ashes???
This upload made my day
And my week
And my month
And my year
We need a DS4 made by Arc-Sys. They wanted to make a Guilty Gear X Darkstalkers back in 2010 I believe? They have showed they like the series too!
No
Guilty Gear X DarkStalkers would be the illest game ever made. If there were two games that were ever meant to collaborate, it's those two specifically. I think the reason I main Faust is because he has DarkStalkers energy, like, he wouldn't be out of place in that game at all
1:02 I can't stop trying to find a Megaman Xtreme 2 arcade cabinet online now
I didn't know any of the X games got arcade releases, although it could be custom made.
Darkstalkers 3 is sooo good, guys. Definitely buy the Resurrection compilation if you can. Also check out the anime series, it’s here on UA-cam and it’s really cool!
“There’s a hadouken, shoryuken, tatsumak-💕oh💦”
I laughed so loud my geriatric dad checked on me.
I usually can’t handle UA-cam videos of dudes talking about video games, but you’re gold.
For some reason my wifi just crapped out for like 30 seconds when he mentioned it "going up" when he moved on to resurrection. I usually watch/listen to these while doing some repetitive tasks (like spreadsheets) so I just thought he reaaaaallllllyyyy wanted to build tension.
I'll never forgive capcom for their horrid treatment of this series and their other fighting games
Kudos for using Elle's theme from Terranigma to signify the death of the Darkstalkers franchise.
I loved Suzi the Sphere Hunter's idea for for a character action game starring Morrigan. Just reskin DMC4 and have all the bosses be Darkstalkers Morrigan would take weapons from. It would be so awesome.
I would love to see a modern dalkstalkers it could be amazing
I love Vampire, but I'm happy with it and Rival Schools remaining dead lest Capcom pull a SF5 or MvCI with them. Imagine playing Vampire 4 with only eight characters available at the start, terrible unbalanced gameplay, no arcade mode, no gallery mode, and a weekly rotation of challenges to get coin to unlock colors. There would be three seasons over the next three years to add six characters each for $40 along with $400 in DLC costumes. And if it didn't make infinite money, they would just cancel the planned content leaving the game forever incomplete. I don't want that for franchises I love.
Thank you, darkstalkers Is my favorite game series
The erratic energy of kbash is like sweet nectar to me
7:53 As a millennial Canadian that drinks at least a half-litre of milk per day I feel incredibly targeted by that niche joke.
Morrigan is easily the most recognizable female character who most people have no idea where they are from. Capcom leaving Darkstalkers on the table is insane. They make a new one and put her face on a poster and it'll sell out.
at the very least we can hope that with the new team in charge of Capcom's fighting game division we might see a revival, with them seeming to care more about fan favorites and old franchises like Rival Schools
I have the three main games and still love this franchise. The games, anime, art books, comics, and some action figures are proudly part of my collection. Morrigan, Felicia, and later Lilith are my favs. My first cosplay was Lei-Lei/Hsien-ko. Morrigan introduced me to the succubus which became my favorite monster. I... I really love Darkstalkers; not the horrible North American cartoon though.
This is one of my favorite games. Hopefully, they will have a resurgence.
New Kbash?! I got the 15 piece lemon pepper/honey bbq combo LET'S GO!
I'm very happy right now. Hope this is the start of something good. :)