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- Опубліковано 30 сер 2018
- Horrible starter noise....Ring Gear? Compensator? Starter clutch?
I demonstrate ruling out the starter clutch first. - Авто та транспорт
Thank you for the video. A buddy of mine is having the same problem and I sent him your video. My 2010 was doing the same thing and I replaced the starter clutch with a "all balls' unit and its been fine for the past 3 years.
Thanks for the video, thanks to your video I have successfully carried out a starter motor clutch assembly change 👍.Some of my own tips would be, watch out for the starter motor bolts are covered in the black paint … and it is difficult to get the sockets and spanner’s on until the paint has been chipped off … It is a little difficult to get access properly to the two bolts hold the starter motor in place … tip is just to tap the Allen socket in properly… The teeth on the old starter clutch assembly were clearly worn/damaged… my bike is starting just sweet now.. just need to take it out for the proper warm up test 👍👍
Thank you for the video. I feel so much better knowing that replacing the starter will fix the issue. I have a 2008 Road King classic. I've taken it to Harley Davidson and they told me the same thing ...."it's the compensator." I was quoted $800.00. I have yet to taken it to the shop. I rather pay $140.00 for a new starter than $800.00.
Was wondering if after replacing starter on your 2008 solved the issue? I’m having the same problem on a 2008 road king.
Thank you sir. My bike is doing the exact same thing. I'm saving this video to watch later while I'm doing my own. tremendous help
You are a life safer!!! Just got my 07 night train back from shop where it cost me $960 to change the stator And regulator with Harley labor. Started bike and made same noise still once home. Was just sending bike back to shop when I came across your video. Can’t thank you enough.
Awesome video!! Sounds a lot better. You have a nice bike. Thanks again .
Combination of compensator, primary chain tensioner and / or starter bendix( pinion gear with one way clutch that comes out in to ring gear). thats what mine was doing
Thanks man! Same issue same results! You made this a easy fix
This movie will help me to solve my noise problem.thank you.
Been trying to find the guy who suggested hitting the start button within 1 second of the run switch, thank you,thank you, mine was making this very noise every start, not any more,'im not a mechanic but possibly letting the fuel pump get up to full pressure and cutting out before starting is putting extra pressure on the compression, don't know, only know it works, problem solved, for me anyway, yes putting a heavier starter will also work but why if you don't need to try this first.
Hello. Thank you for this Video. My 09' EG has been doing this and it's getting worse. Did you determine this fix was your issue after several months etc?
You have a voice like Bob Ross.
Good video. Maybe some wider shots would help get more context. We lose a bit in the close ups. Still helpful though. Can’t wait to try it. Thanks.
Thumbs up on the video. My 2010 has having the problem when it was hot..Got my replacement part and will be doing it ASAP once the storm passes.
My does the same when hot as well. Did the video. Did it work? Did replacing the starter clutch fix the grinding?
Did it solve the problem when it gets hot? Curious as I hv same issue. Thanks in advance.
Hi Dawsy, Thanks a lot for the video! Glad I found someone with the same prob.
HD Australia have been pretty hopeless about diagnosis over the phone and closest HD shop is 4 hrs away.
I upgraded my 96ci to 103 and this started happening. If I start it out front of the pub the whole place goes into silence and just stares, I'm cursing it out under my breath = Embarrassing!! Do you think I'd have to go for a larger starter? Cheers:)
Ok, now I feel confident this is what's wrong with my bike. Every other video I see it doesn't have the clunking this one has. Which is what I have going on. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for the video. it was very helpful with this repair last night on my 2009 streetglide
I realize it is kind of off topic but do anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online?
@Leo Eden try FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)
@Leo Eden try FlixZone. Just google for it =)
@Leo Eden I would suggest FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)
Did you put any type of gasket(rtv) when you put the starter back together
Thank you for the video! You should be a professional instructor. My 2009 Ultra is doing the same thing. Still trying to decide to take it to the shop or do it myself.
guys @7:00 where Dawseyandsons say "you don't have to take this apart".. I did by mistake and now I can't get the motor back between the four spring loaded contacts. Is there a trick to that?
What kind of white grease did u use?? lubriplate110?? thx
My 99 fxd superglide does this as well. What is the problem? Compensator?
DO YOU KNOW THE Warm up sound it makes when you press that first button mine is not making that sound what do I need to do ?
I have a 96 Road King with a 2015 113 Ultima Motor. Mine was doing the same thing, I took the primary off and the Compensator was fine. Put it all back together again and now it’s not doing it. Make sure your battery is fully charged my mechanic advised me on that.
Where did u get the parts from?
Thanks for your video, my 2009 road king always start ok cold but if I turn it off when hot then back on give me the same exact sound
Any body any suggestions
Thanks !
My 2009 softail does the same thing especially when hot...so would the starter clutch alone not be the fix? I've heard guys changing that alone does the job ...I'm listening as I type this so if you answer my question I apologize...I'm stoked I found someone with my same problem in general
It’s now a year later and it’s still running well.
I replaced my compensater on a 09 fatboy at 30 thou replaced it with a screaming eagle. No problems so far
I have decompression buttons installed on my 02 fxdx. That seems to solve the noise. Makes for a smooth quiet start. If i dont push the buttons in before starting it will make a loud grinding sound. And starting wont be as smooth.
Is the starter removal the same procedure as on an 08 ultra? Or do I need to pull my primary cover off? I have the same sound when starting my bike
I seem to remember you have to pull the primary off but not 100% sure.
New it was the starter clutch soon as I heard it.
I heard that the 96 cu inch motors had another problem, High Compression bad starting problem. And the fix would be compression release valves drilled into the heads. That's what they did in the 103 cu in. I have the same noise when the motor is hot. I wonder if Harley would have put in a better starter and a battery with more CCA to turn that high compression engine over easier would have stop it from wrecking starters. just a thought , what do you think?
I like the compression release idea. I had no idea the 103s had that. I don't know enough about auto electronics to say either way, I wish I did. I know I have heated my wiring up really hot when one of my engines was too tight after rebuild . No matter how much juice I put to the starter it was hard to start because compression and tightness to I was melting my electrical. So I am not sure adding more CCA would help but I really don't understand it as well as I would like to...yet (trial and error eventually we figure it out).
Mine does that or it sounds like it’s spinning with a grinding noise
But what did it sound like before you took it apart???????
My 2004 Sportster does this occasionally as well.
Same with my 05
@@stevenweede7184 also mine from 2004 ... how did you solve it?
Bet I could of found the answer in the comments. For the 08 ultra remove the oil filler cap and pack it with a paper towel so nothing comes in and it’ll come out no problem. Was about to take off the exhaust but found another vid after digging in the good book (Haynes manual)
Having a big issue. I replaced mine last night and the night I started it, it had a bad high pitched noise, I found out that there is already a ball bearing in it, so I removed the second ball I had installed. Now I put the starter back in the bike and it won’t start, I just hear some gears turning. Any help would be huge
Also, battery is perfect
I don't think so. Those starters are identical size to many small 4 cylinders so it should be fine.
Tried taking my starter off of my 06 roadking when i tried to pull it out seems like there tension on it and goes back in? Was yours like that
Did you figure out?
@@JarheadSixRides no
I have a 09 super glide is grinding like that but only when it's hot
thanks mister. mine is 2010 and I just started getting that sound. looks like a fairly easy fix. going to change this sooner than later. could easily leave you stranded somewhere. - there did not look like there were any teeth missing on your old gear. I wonder if just cleaning up the copper contacts would have made a difference?
I'd like to know this too!
@@scann13 so I cleaned up the copper contacts and its been working for about a year now but one time, you could hear that it wasn't engaging fully. I suspect this is because those original copper contacts are not making a good enough contract. They get pitted from the electricity. Easy fix though. The parts are not too expensive on Amazon or ebay. I was planning to re-do mine to be on the safe side. www.amazon.com/Harley-Davidson-Starter-Solenoid-31604-06/dp/B01MA3JY9P/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=harley+solenoid&qid=1586773970&sr=8-14
Existem mecânicos que trocam o compensador da moto por um eliminador . Isso não é o correto. O problema é mesmo da embreagem do motor de partida. Parabéns.
When you turn your bike own after your engine light goes off turn your throttle once or twice then start it.
Yeah mine is off and on and sounding more like the second starting attempt
how is your bike doing now did this fix your problem.
It is still good but to be clear I haven't put a ton of miles on it. Maybe a few hundred. I will know a lot more soon that the weather is better.
@@Dawseyandsons Any updates? Did this solve the issues when it was hot? Or did you have to go further? Thanks in advance 👍
It isnt the starter clutch. Ive a 2008 same problem . Was harley engineering mistake. I had to pay 550.00 for parts and tear the whole ass end off the bike. God only knows the price for harley mechs to do the work. The inner primary comes off to replace the rotor with a different width one. The stator remains standard. Unlike shovelheads that you can access everyrhing by removal of the outer primary case , the inner primary wont allow rotor removal. It was a big job and i have wrenched harleys for a living .Screaming eagle was the first to make a new compensator setup. Many hi pro aftermarket companies now have a repair kit .Harley lied to the mechanics at authorized dealers and left the mechanics to deal with pissed off consumers. They had no idea what the problem could be . So they claimed .They did NOT want a recall as too many bikes were assembled with the troubled parts. However screaming eagle IS the hi pro side of Harley. so they admitted guilt by marketing the repair kit . The cheapest repair is to eliminate the compwnsator completely running just the sprocket. I know many dealer mechanics and weve had a lengthy disussion over this. Harley sucks . They fucked their customers knowingly and then lied. We are not talking a few bikes , but literally thousands and thousands of harleys . They are undeserving of devoted followers. I wish you could have read this before jumping into your starter. After my softail and roadking wear out Im going back to Ducati. Piss on harley for selling out the mechanics and you .
Thats same sound what my motorcycle makes
I’ve replace starter clutch assembly 3 times in 2 years.. this time the shaft itself breaks
What was the fix? We've replaced my son's 3 times now
My 2008 Fat Boy is doing that
THE WAY IT LOOKS, JUST NEEDS A GOOD CLEAN JOB
Couldn't you just replace the whole starter as well instead of just replacing the inner? My 07 electra glide makes this noise
Sure you could. But really they are two different parts. In some motorcycles and ATVs they aren't as closely attached. You could replace the whole unit but it would be more expensive. Also you do not need to buy the starter from HD. They will rip you off. HD wanted $800 for a starter for my old electraglide. These starters are not american-made they are simply hitachi or similar starters found in tons of vehicles such as honda accords etc. Another cheaper options is get a rewind/rebuild place to fix them for dirt cheap.
@@Dawseyandsons ok thanks
Jeffrey Cook hello I have the same problem but only when I make a long ride and the motorcycle get hot. Do you think I need to change the same part as you changed ? Thanks
@@lamarrr7957 That is exactly how my problem started. It was only when it was hot and it wasn't all the time. Then it eventually increased in frequency until it was getting embarrassing and little kids were running away.
@@Dawseyandsons Hahaha! Same with mine. Start it down the shops and mothers weep and hold their crying children tightly
I fix my bike. Ty
yup- now everybody run out and buy the Screamin Eagle 'upgrade' kit. Yes, reward Harley for yet, another one of their design fails. Wake up girls & boys, we're talking about YOUR hard earned money. Don't hand Harley another dime. Replace the unit with an alternate non-Harley part, Baker, Hayden, or the cheaper Twin-Power; then sell the piece of shit and buy an Indian. My 2006 Nightrain will be my last Harley. Fuck them... I'm keeping my Evo though.
Comensator
great video, but please speak up in the future, very hard to hear you
Harley Horrible Starter, Cam chain tentioners, Primary chain tentioner shifting gears, brake and Bearings Noise . f harley
speak louder!!!