thank you, seen it. now i feel a bit better about my theory, because i see a lot of other people had the same thought. and i do hope your deeper analisys is confirmed. also, if this theory proves to be correct, i think that Niel's way of time travel (the very first one, when he gets to our timeline) is different than inversion. by inversion he should have been much older than he is. i really need to go see tha movie again
Hey, small correction: Kat seeing herself wasn't what lead to them being estranged again, it was his offer to let her go free if only she agrees to never see her son again, which made her angry enough to smash the raspberries & bowl (could be because he knows his adult son will attempt to undo the bomb??)
Theory: The scientist who was referred to as creating the technology in the future is the woman who shows inversion technology to John/The Protagonist's character.
@Lucas Awad It's a Nolan thing. The dialogue in his newer movies is so muffled, that the theaters turn up the volume way to much. My ears were literally ringing for hours after coming home. It was the same with Dunkirk. Nolan seems to be the only one doing this.
SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS is a mysterious Latin inscription of unknown origin. It is a square and can be read forwards, backwards, downwards and upwards. Sator is the bad guy Arepo is mentioned as character off screen Tenet well that's the title Opera refers to the opera house from the prologue Rotas is the name of the vault organisation The whole sentence is a bigger palindrome in which the word Tenet holds the central position.
i knew it was either himself from the future or Neil from the future. I thought when Neil chases the protagonist in the gas mask suit and takes his mask off he was looking at himself which is why he was shocked
HawkeyedSentinel he was deliberately shooting to the side to use up all of the bullets, you see future self trying to remove the gun magazine etc! But obv to past self he thought he was actually trying to shoot him
thats y im waiting for planning to go to Eng sub show, unfortunately only 4 shows are available each day (2 in morning and 2 in night)but need to sacrifice imax or atmos experience, here in Singapore
yes, i think a lot of us. had the same problem. I am native spanish speaker, living in Austria and i saw it in English on IMAX, really hard to get some dialogue . you have to watch it at least twice to get all anyway. IMO
Chris Fellows nah that wasn’t the point. Certain Important pieces of explanation at the beginning of the movie are super quiet, and aren’t repeated for any other part of the movie. It’s seems like a sound mixing issue
The music played a huge part in the big battle scene at the end aswell. Giving it a "reversed" vibe when blue team was in shot and regular vibe when red team was in shot
While I agree with you, I must say, it was so uncomfortably loud that the speakers must have had the hairs on my arms raising anyway, goosebumps or not 😆
Christopher Nolan in interstellar: Time can squeeze and stretch but it can't go backwards Me after watching TENET(Tyler the creator voice): so that was a f*ckin lie
@@FirstnameLastname-hq5rd Not really, based on the in universe explanation. It was a kind of loophole where gravity could transcend time as a means to send a message back to his daughter. Time overall still moved forward throughout, but certain events formed a closed loop that had always been that way (similar to in Tenet).
@@mushin111 Ahh ok, that's where I was getting confused. Sending a message back in a closed loop via gravitational forces is still kinda time travel to me ;)
@Francis Clark The strange thing about this movie is that it touched on anti matter particles to describe the objects going back in time. But this has nothing to do with anti matter, since anti matter is literally just matter with opposite charges. Also anti matter would immediately annihilate itself and any matter it touches. Ignoring that though, it can be said that anti matter is just normal matter but travelling backwards through time. This isn't necessarily true, but it works and makes sense. So your description was quite brilliant. Just like anti matter, time doesn't go backwards, it goes forwards in reverse.
it works differenly with fore knowledge Like when you get the big reveal in sixth sense and go through the rest of the movie again realising " HOLY SHIT YEA! Bruce Willis never talks to anyone else" In the beginning it just seems like its some spy games type shit. Or my interpretation was, that Neil was sent from the future, with information about John. i didn't know the information would be so direct lol
Just got back from this so many little bits that make sense when you watch it Spoiler below “Gin and tonic and a Diet Coke for him” “How did you know??”
@@TwistedReality13 I admire your optimism. Since theaters won't be open anytime soon in California I just went straight to the spoilers LMAO. When theaters decide to open I'm still going to go watch it. It's certainly worth watching in theaters.
@@TwistedReality13 that's the same case for me too sometimes for example for "the boys" I don't have amazon prime so i watched youtube videos and yeah i got spoiled but still was interested or rather even more interested
This film is going to age so well as a Nolan classic. I can see it age the same way Inception did. Luke warm reception until people fully grasp the concept and gain appreciation for the ideas
it's not the concept people have a problem with though. It's that the movie is built soley to serve that concept and in turn character suffers for it. The pacing in the beginning is so insanely fast flipping from location to location with nothing in the middle, things just go from moment to moment that is becomes jarring and hard to connect with people. I literally felt like the protagonist actor was just reading his lines from a script, there was no meat to anything that was happening. The beginning almost zoned me out to where i did not care. It took the actual plane scene and the fight with himself to finally pull me in. That is a long time into a film to meet the 'the hook'. So many people will not like it simply for that not that they won't understand. Time travel films always are loved for the most part and it is what gets people debating for the film for years to come but this film does not have the advantage of well built likeable characters to push through that conversation like movies like the terminator or back to the future and shit. Films where the concept is not the only thing people like it's the actual characters. That is just my opinion though I liked the film for the concept and the visuals but everything else was just too blah
@@guitarman0365 Bingo! That's exactly how I felt. No emotional connection with any of the characters. Didn't care if they succeed or not. I did enjoy the beginning of the movie (opera scene) but then it never settled down to build the protagonist back story and just continued jumping from one scene to another like you said. At least in Inception we knew that Cobb felt guilty that his wife killed herself because of him and that he was willing to do anything to be with his children again.
@@guitarman0365 it's supposed to feel that way because its happening over and over again and not wasting time with explanation when you find out in the end. The end of the movie is the beginning of the movie, and vice versa so you wouldn't need all of the explaining. It would be redundant at that point.
@@vinniechan Exactly. I work and live in Sarawak East Malaysia. Saw the movie twice. Initial viewing took time to understand it Never saw any Trailers or reviews. I certainly enjoyed the movie. Second time was even better
Actually, just remember few things will help you understand a lot: 1 watch out the red pendant(Very important); 2 It is not time travel. It is single time line but the tech allow people going backward in time. 3 whatever happened will happen. This is not MCU going into past to change the outcome.; Finally, I have only one question: Max is Neil?
I'm might be wrong, but don't they go back in time when they go back to the moment where Sator is on the boat in Vietnam, you know, the moment he picked to kill himself because that is when they still had a nice relationship? That can't all be happening all at the same time as everything else in the movie, no? I don't know the dates used in the movie out of my head. EDIT: I just realized they sat on the boat, going back in time for almost a week, but that was in order to rescue Kate, right? But again, don't know the dates out of my head.
Confused. I think the movie doesn't have to execute in the way to make people's brain hurt. The concept is good and the execution can be better with more scenes to explain the whole thing, and a different way of editing the movie might help. The editor for the movie is Jennifer Lame, she and Nolan are new collaborator so I think she didn't get Nolan's mind to edit the film in the way that make us understand and get the whole thing easier. She is a good editor but always edited movies that worked in linear fashion than Tenet.
Welcome to a nolan movie n if I didnt love hans zimmer music (my fav musician of all time) I would agree but in all nolan/zimmer collabs the music fits all the time
*This movie would have been much easier to understand if it hadn't been for the music blaring over the dialogue for approximately ninety per cent of the movie.
the protagonists first meeting with Neil isn’t Neils first meeting with the protagonist yet Neils first meeting with the protagonist won’t be the protagonists first meeting with him mind: blown
Jarod Mardis no it won’t. It will be for Neil but the protagonist will go on to meet a younger Neil in the future after he dies at the end of the first movie
@@juxe411 The Older Protagonist met the Younger Neil in the past, but unless the Older Protagonist had other "missions" with the Younger Neil then this is in fact his LAST time meeting him.
Jarod Mardis ??? it’s not the protagonists last time talking with neil then if an OLDER protagonist meets younger Neil? No matter what time travel or what point in time the protagonist after parting with Ives and Neil in the desert will go on to meet a younger Neil so it’s not his last time meeting with Neil. It’s obviously Neils last time considering he’s about to die
Inception: Five minutes in the real world gives you an hour in the dream Interstellar: Because of the time slippage. On this planets time, she landed here just hours ago. She might've only died minutes ago Tenet: Hold my beer...
Apologies to my US Subscribers. Had no idea when to upload this so thought I'd just get the video done today whilst the movie is still fresh in my mind. If you haven't seen it but are here anyway I recommend you try and watch the film unspoiled as it's definitely worth checking out without having the twists ruined. Cheers - Deff
Probably not going to watch till it goes in blu Ray. Don't trust US theaters even with extra precautions in place. People are still protesting wearing masks which is ridiculous
No worries, Deff. Since viewing the very first trailer I suspected I would need be strictly sober before viewing this on the big screen. You've only helped reinforce my suspicion. P.S. No spoilers but if you would like your head "to fold in on itself" I recommend to you the writings of Karl (John) Friston FMedSci FRSB FRS, whose name I half-expect to see among Tenet's end credits.
@@e3vL1 in many ways you'll be better off, Subtitles are a must for this movie! There's the obligatory vehicular set piece, which is always unparalleled. To say it's mindbending is a vast understatement, ironically the movie is it's own paradox; to understand what's going on, reading of online articles is required... which may contain spoilers..!!?? Not the most audience pleasing Nolan creation but a spectacle none the less.
Just saw it a few hours ago since the movie is playing already here in germany! It´s Nolans best work of all his "grounded action movies". By that i mean that the action sequences even tho beeing super "grounded" without almost any CGI are feeling the heaviest they ever did. The fist-fight between batman and bane is a bad joke against one brawl in a kitchen in this movie! i´m not even kidding! Probs!
luke wilding I feel like it was way too large of a plot concept to fully materialize in a film. Probably would have been better served as a mini series or something a long those lines. On the other hand, maybe the plot holes would become too large if stretched out into something longer than a 3 hour movie. Hard for me to say, I'm no director or writer, just some dude laying in bed writing this... Goodnight ✌️
I've not seen anyone talk about this but it keeps on spinning in my head... the female scientist who created the algorithim in the future, couldn't she be Clémence Poesy's character in the beginning of the movie explaining inversion to JDW?
wow goddamn you might be right, especially since she didn't want to intervene with what was happening around her since she didn't want herself to be involved, but only explain how inversion works. (this has a lot of logic since the things she knows could be dangerous if got in the wrong hands) If you're right there are probably more clues in the movie that would prove this.
It is possible that there was a Terminator-style self-creating invention happening. This scientist is brought in to study these inverted objects, spends years studying the underlying physics and eventually comes up with the theory behind inversion. She then uses this to create the inversion process itself and eventually the algorithm, creating the situation where the objects that she'd previously studied are produced. My only issue is that I got the impression that the algorithm was invested further into the future than would fit this theory, but I can't recall what gives me that impression so I may have just assumed this
Priya mentioned that the inventor of the algorithm was generations into the future so any attempts for the inventor to invert back in time to change things would result in her "dying of old age" before she could arrive there
I wish Christopher Nolan could invert his production on Tenet to go back and add some emotional depth to the characters, but it is still a fascinating movie. I'll take an original concept any day over another sequel or rehash.
my thoughts exactly, it was boring until everything starting merging, but they focused so little on the characters and their emotional bonds that i didn't even know their names. i think the plot twists make up for it but it was something they could have worked on.
Why do people complain about characterization lol Nolan’s movies are generally plot driven, which is why I’m paying to see them. I’m not paying to feel sympathy towards the character, I’m paying to see what new concept Nolan is trying to bring to the screen
Just remember, that is the whole point of the movie. They are all intelligence/temporal agents who shouldn't know much about their co-agents. Knowing too much will compromise the temporal progress of the past/future. Hence 'no chit chats' and 'ignorance is our ammunition' are included twice or thrice into the movie dialogues. It is also main reason the protagonist doesn't have a name so we don't get attached to one single character. Its a very plot driven until very end where you understand that John and Robert's character share a very special bond which jump start the saving of world. In a way, movie talks about human emotion without portraying them in-depth. Nolan truly is a genius.
@@SarathKumar-bp2go after my last comment, I watched the movie again. And I totally agree, I also really liked how their relationship was shown at the end, it’s not very often we see men get emotional and on the verge of tears in a film, and it was just so pure
Sold me on the part where the protagonist is fighting himself backwards. Don't care if everyone is saying they could not hear the dialogue, this film appears to be a masterpiece.
So I'm not the only one, I didn't get the entire part about the painting and blackmail because I couldn't hear shit, if I could actually understand what they were saying I would've got it the first time around
Bro yes. I was really digging the score in the opening scene. But once it was over, their dialogue was just being drowned out by the music. It would’ve really helped to have some dialogue and silence so i can get the jist of their plan and where they were going and who they were meeting and shit. the score helped and hurt this movie for me.
The female scientist at the beginning is the future Oppenheimer that splits and hides the algorithm parts then kills herself Also John is the founder of Tenet
I had a thought while watching does anyone reckon the Nell is actually Kat's son grown up? He states they were old friends and given the talk about the grandfather paradox I wonder if it was part of the plot at one stage. The only downside to this is the interactions Neil has with Kat do not in anyway hint at this nor does he show any protectiveness or real fondness for Kat as you would expect of a Son. Any just a discussion point I thought I'd share.
Thought the same thing. At the end of the movie John said something like "now there's a kid who will change the world" and the screen panned to the son. The kid's hair is also kinda similar to Neil's.
Maybe they tried that in one timeline and it messed everything up. So this time they had to go back and not mention it. This who movie was like a big chess game in time traveling/ 8
I reckon I'm relatively smart, right, but I had no idea what was going on. For almost every scene, I had no clue what was actually happening. Did anyone else have this? I didn't understand the car chase, the point of the artwork, the stuff on the Sator's yacht, trying to save Kat's life, the final battle, the scenes with Priya, how inversion makes any physical sense, the link between Sator and the end of life itself, the whole bit in the bunker at the end. I mean, add in the terrible sound mixing on the dialogue and some mad edits and the whole things was incomprehensible. Does anyone else think it was absolutely shocking? And I love Nolan by the way, and still do, but he lost it here IMO.
Saw it for a second time last night and muddled dialogue aside, the big problem with watching this film initially is not knowing exactly what you need to pay close attention to in order to understand it. For a second viewing I knew what I found most confusing so could pay extra close attention to the context. It requires highly active viewing, especially given the oft-times choppy editing. I think I have it mostly worked out after two views but I do believe Nolan failed to convey some of the plot vital points clearly.
Just watch it 2-3-4 times until you succeed 😌 It seems like you weren't paying attention in the exact moment - the scene sequence when Sator shot Kat and our guy went invertet. Nolan yet provided us with another unique concept and it deserves every peny no matter how many times you'd go to the cinema in order to understand it.
I'm a Nolan fan from the Memento and I thought I would have a chance of understanding but an hour in i turned to my best friend who is a massive Nolan fan and asked if he knew what was happening and what was the purpose of it all and we both drew a blank. Second half of the movie started to make more sense and Nolan has intended it this way I reckon. 2nd and 3rd viewings will help
Bang on, mate. I didn’t follow from minute one what was going on and, for the rest of the movie, was angrily trying to speed up my thinking and scramble my brain to try and retrospectively work through and understand what I just saw while simultaneously trying to follow the next bout of incomprehensible dialogue that I could barely hear properly anyway. The action scenes appeared to be awesome but I couldn’t enjoy them because I didn’t get what was actually happening in them or why. If I don’t get how a scene is possible, even in universe, then I can’t suspend my disbelief to just enjoy it - kept trying to reset my brain and say, “right, you know they’re just going to go nick the last piece of algorithm and stop the world ending - just work with that,” but then there was so much time swapping I got lost again! Such an utterly frustrating film to watch, and at times it felt like it was almost gloating about how confusing it was with some dialogue like, “don’t try to understand it,” and, “is your head hurting yet?”
Leonardo Filippini also when he and Neil went back in time to the plane scene they heard the explosion and then went in. Surely if they were going backwards through time, there would already be mass panic and when they heard the explosion everything would be back to normal? Idk if I made sense or not but it’s hard to make sense of it all anyway
We’ll all get answers after multiple viewings. But that inverted car scene, the protagonist was controlling the car in reverse. You could tell how strange he seemed to be even walking and getting in the car. If we are here talking about it with confusion means there’s information we yet have to uncover.
Just watched it here in Australia. Hardest part of the movie to get a notion of what is going on, is the time chamber interrogation after the first car chase run. Inverted Sator threatens inverted Kat, while asking questions to non inverted John, who i don't know how, was able to understand reversed english. Holy shit. Sator shoots Kat I don't understand how is that an inverted wound, she was also inverted which makes the wound a normal wound, I think. Sator leaves, John switches room to check on Kat and all the sudden the events that led to Kat's shooting are reversed, however she is still wounded. Then John learns about time inversion. I need a hand here. Also dont get why they need to move out of the chamber she got injured at and go to the one on the art warehouse. Why didn't they stayed..They needed the wound to heal before reverting to normal so might as well get closer to the algorithm piece they were chasing?
I have no idea why Sator's English was reversed in that scene. Never ever again is English reversed in this movie even if the person is reversed. Plus wearing masks is super random, sometimes they need it sometimes they don't
@@groberti inverted people's experience of time feels reversed to a normal person. That is why the english from inverted Sator is received by John in reverse. I partially understand the mechanic of time here but haven't been able to make sense of it all. Everything happens so fast that you don't get a chance to digest an ounce. That is also why the red soldiers never speak to the blue ones at the end. You would received the message in reverse, and why NeiI had to de-reversed himself to warm John about the tunnel trap.
Grobee I thought that about the masks at first, but I think that whenever they are moving backwards they have them on, unless they are in the rooms covered by the sheets. At other points they are in the past, but moving forward, and thus don’t need a mask
Audience: "Wow the way he inverted those movements and explosions is so cool!" Nolan: *literally has Actors running and fighting backwards and has found a way to locally reverse time to get those shots*
Actually many shots (like the war on the end) are shot with ppl coreographed moving backwards... and when we see the reversed ones, the others are doing also choreographed moving back... There is no camera trick that...
I’ve been thinking about how to approach this review on Tenet without giving the impression of bashing the movie or hating on it. Cause I did like this movie but I certainly have a lot to say. Let’s start with this, I was like everyone else with Tenet. I was super excited, who wouldn’t be! Christopher Nolan directing, big budget summer blockbuster, with a complex plot, awesome trailer and a great cast! I’ve been waiting for this movie for a long time and as soon as I found a showtime for my city I decided I had to go. So I saw Tenet and I have to say, this is a Christopher Nolan movie. It has his style of direction all over it. The complex and dense plot, big action spectacles and a long runtime. Will people like it, most likely unfortunate for me not so much. What really bothered me about this movie was the plot and how Nolan told this story. It didn’t feel cohesive or even understandable really but rather very confusing, rushed and the outcome of it all made me question what was the purpose of all that just happened. Even some of the plot points of this movie that kinda make sense doesn’t actually do. Like I didn’t really know much about the villain or his goals and there wasn’t enough character development to him other than a cliche evil plan, him being just a jerk but the actor who portrays him did a good job. The acting of this character gave an impression of unintentionally being funny and entertaining. But a lot of this movie felt like it was trying to be an extravaganza of action scenes, set pieces and dazzling spectacles. Luckily It does accomplish that though, a lot of the times. The action is really well done and does a lot of the spectacles. I just wish that the movie presented a more compelling story, because it felt as though it was kinda trying too. The story, plotting and even sometimes the screenplay felt so jumbled throughout the entire runtime. It tries to be so intellectual and complex but at the end it didn’t succeed at it. Overall Tenet wasn’t as great as I hoped for but, big and sometimes fun action scenes, good acting, sound design, and the look of the movie are all positives for Tenet. Maybe I just wasn’t smart enough to appreciate all this movie had to offer and that’s unfortunate, but I did have some fun with Tenet and think most people will enjoy it.
"It didn’t feel cohesive or even understandable really but rather very confusing, rushed and the outcome of it all made me question what was the purpose of all that just happened" Well in my point of view it was meant like this. The protagonist is clearly the one behind everything outside (future) of the movie and also the one learning everything (inside the movie) along with us (the audience) and that is in my point of view why it did not feel cohesive and why it felt so confusing - because it was meant to feel that way so we can get to see it through protagonists point of view. One more thing: Since the whole movie is based on "One word (TENET) and one gesture" - The whole movie is a palindrome, even the plot is made that way and you learn it throughout the movie as you see more and more of invertion alone and invertion along with normal flow and in some points of the movie you get to see the conjuction between normal and inverted flow of time. It´s best shown in the final battle where we get to see both teams (red and blue) points of view where if for example: RED look at his teammates/actions he sees normal flow of time and reverse flow on the counter (watch) but if he looks on the member of BLUE team he sees everything they do reverse/inverted but the clock would go clockwise - in normal flow and vice versa (if you switch teams). That idea is partially supported by Neil at the end. You can see how he kinda ignores his inverted self going out of turnstile and goes for that car that is there for the whole time of the final battle, but then goes back to fill the hole so he can be the dead guy behind doors who unlocks it, takes the bullet for the Protagonist, dies and closes the loop for the whole movie. At least thats how I see it. I only saw it once yesterday and while I was watching I felt the same way as you but after whole night of putting my brain back together I found sense in the movie. That is why I love it even more, the movie doesn´t end with end credits you have to end it for yourself :D *Im definitely going to watch it at least 1-2 more times.
Peter Kolesár woah man, I think you understood the movie. Thank you so much for explaining it better to me, I understand it a lot more now. You have a lot of great insight and I hope you can watch the movie again! ☺️
Yep, my biggest problem was that the story didn’t have a strong emotional core. Nolan’s movies usually have this heart at the centre to keep us grounded and invested in the character’s journey, like Cobb’s emotional journey to accept what happened with Mal and let go, or Coop’s mission to save the planet really being about him saving his own children and returning home to them. There was nothing like that in Tenet, so there was nothing to keep me distracted from all the little things that just didn’t make sense with the time inversion concept. Like, do they regurgitate food while going backwards? Do they poop in reverse? Plus sometimes they were reversed and then they would switch and be going forward, so how does that work with the timeline? Wouldn’t they all have had to journey back weeks to get to the yacht time again? But my biggest question is why did Nolan, who KNOWS about the importance of heart at the core of these stories (because he has talked about it in many interviews) forget to put one in this film?
7:11 Actually Kat and Sato had already drifted apart. When she saw the woman she was returning to the boat after they had that big argument, things had been screwed up for quite a while. She said that in that trip to Vietnam they were trying recreate one in which they were truly happy.
[Big spoilers omitted] Small correction: Kat and Max didn't drift apart after seeing the woman jumping from the yacht - they were already drifting apart, he already had power over her, but on that specific yacht trip she tried with all that she had to still love him. Then when she saw the woman jumping off, she was jealous that Max was letting her jump off the yacht freely, something that she could never do.
I wanna die trying to remove my own severed balls from my mouth while i choke and bleed to death simultaneously. The Russian villain in the movie really sold me on it.
The Russian guy wasn’t tasked with “setting off the algorithm” he was just supposed to bury it - for 200 years so the future folks could find it and use it
Did he disobey them because he was gonna die and he said to Kat 'if I can't have u, nobody can' and in his self-obsessed narcissistic head, he wanted the world to die too
true, but the protagonist was aware of the need for the explosion to happen... the explosion is gonna happen regardless, but their mission was was to simply retrieve it so it wouldn't be burried in the explosion.. but i see what you mean in response to what the video "stated"
The game engine would need to be able to receive your controller inputs from the future so the inverted npc:s could interact with the series of actions you are going to take that is leading them backwards to your present moment in the game.
I thought Neil and Jon meets in the future, where Jon recruits him, and Neil is actually travelling backwards in the film until his death? Neil explain he's had a long lasting friendship with Jon while Jon will meet and recruit Neil at the end?
I don't think Neil travel back in time. He is already dead in the future. What I think happened is that at the end of movie, John starts the tenet operation & go backwards to recruit Neil. But I'm not sure if he told Neil that he's going to die or simply just gave him the instructions of what to do in the operation.
Yes, future John recruits Neil for the pincer operation the entire film depicts. Neil has travelled back in time to the opera house siege. The entire film is a grandfather paradox.
In reality John is from the future Niel is from the past. There are multiple versions of both going at the same time... ones inverted and others non inverted... They are caring missions for Tenet. John goes inverted to the past and recruit Niel (we don´t see that version of John), we do see a version of John from the past that knows nothing about the TENET that he will be creating Years Later. Its like an origin story for John, but its the end story for Niel... The real kicker here is we don´t know if we can speed up reversion or not... How many times did john reverse itself to go back to the time... From where in the future is John from... From what i see, going back in time is irreversible... So we might never see the future John...
@@thrunzala Yeah he did. His future self travelled back till the opera and it's that self that dies in the bunker. If you dont know that u kinda missed alot of the point. Theres another version of Neil alive somewhere who isnt recruited yet and probably at school or something.
Sorry but Sator's motivation is weak AF, "I'm going to kill everyone including my child that I'm trying to take away from my wife because I'm going to die of cancer." I was unable to put this aside, it was just too weak and glossed over.
That didn't bother me at all... Just look around at all the psychos in the real world. It will blow your mind once you hear out the motivations of some serial killers and criminals in general.
I agree, Sator lacked any depth as a character and his motivations could've been more complex. Given that this movie follows the premise the past cannot be changed, Sator should have expected his plan to fail or had been desperate to try and change things. If so, we should've seen a desperate despondent Sator who just wanted to have an impact on the world before passing away
Here's an interesting easter egg. The film also references what's called the "Sator square". This is a real-life ancient roman word puzzle that has been found inscribed in ancient Roman cities. There are theories about it, but for the most part, it is a mystery. The Square reads: Sator, Arepo, Tenet, Opera, Rotas (The last two being Arepo and Sator backwards) all stacked on top of each other to form a square palindrome. Obviously, Kenneth Branagh's character is named "Sator", The forged painting was made by a man named "Arepo" (Tenet is obviously) and one of the scenes takes place in an Opera house. I don't didn't spot any references to "Rotas" but I've only watched it once so it might be in there.
I've been thinking about the best analogy to picture the two directions and how they interact, try this: Think of the passage of time in this film as two long parallel treadmills in a room, running in opposite directions. There is a painfully bright light on one wall that signifies the physics of the dominant direction. The walls to either side show the world at your current position in time. You are on the treadmill that is travelling away from the light. The turnstiles allow you to turn around and step onto the opposite treadmill. You are still travelling forwards from your perspective (and therefore aging), but the world is moving backwards through time around you. The bright light is shining in your face, so you need help to operate properly and people can't really do it for long. If you step into the turnstiles again then you are now in your past. This is how there was able to be multiple Neils in the final battle, he went through the turnstiles multiple times around the battle itself. At all times you are travelling forwards from your perspective, so you are constantly aging. This means that if you step across and travel back for 3 days, then step back again and travel forwards for 10 days, you went through those 3 days two extra times and are 6 days older than your date of birth would suggest. The purpose of the algorithm is to flip the light to the opposite wall. Now, when you step over to the other treadmill you are travelling back along the area you had previously been on, but without having to deal with the bright light. I still think that there is more to inversion than just using the turnstiles, however that is based on a half-heard bit of conversation in the film so I may be wrong. Besides, the above is not how it works but just a way to picture what is happening
I think both of them are really confusing with different ways. Dark is compliaciated but giving you chance to understand, it is taking slow and giving you explanation about things, you just have to understand. But Tenet is opposite. It doesn't want you understand itself. Movie is already so compliacated and it is not giving you a chance to understand, also dialogues are faster than light. It makes it nearly impossible to understand and raid progression of the story makes it litteraly impossible. When you are close enough to understand a thing, it gives you brand new things. What I mean is Dark is compliacated in positive way, Tenet is compliacated in negative way. I understood Dark, Inception, Donnie Darko... For example you can easilly understand Inception in first watch. For Tenet even you have 300IQ, you can't understand it, because it is not giving you time to understand. I am a Nolan fan, I love Nolan's movies. Inception, Interstellar, Prestige were one of my favorite movies of all time. If you want to understand this movie you have to watch it five times with 0.25 speed, it is only way to understand movie and it is not a good for a movie. I want to like the movie but there is no way for it. I had huge expectations but I am dissapointed. I will not believe someone who says he/she understood 100% of Tenet in first watch.
@@GHANIRVANA I watched Tenet yesterday and I understood pretty much everything. It's different from Dark, where - even with the concept of time travel - the story itself is pretty linear, therefor it's pretty easy to follow. In Tenet, you aren't meant to understand what's going on in the first half of the movie (just like the protagonist himself doesn't understand), but when the time reversing happens, you get all the pieces that you previously missed for fully understanding everything. So, at the end of the movie you really shouldn't have any questions about the plot, except those that Nolan intentionally left unanswered.
SirQuadrat That is the problem, %50 of the movie is unanswered, %40 of the movie is answered but it was so fast that you can't. You only clearly understand %10 of the movie. I love Nolan but we have to accept when someone made a mistake even if he is normally magnificent director.
@@GHANIRVANA I agree that this movie is way more fast-paced and non-linear than his other works. I don't consider that a negative though. Following the movie was absolutely doable if you pay attention and most questions you might have at the beginning get answered towards the end.
Just watched it. First reaction stepping out of the theater - "I am blown away ! this is the most magnificent and entertaining movie ever" Ofcourse I understood like only 50%,...probably less. But, like some people already mentioned, I too had a hard time understanding what they were saying. Not sure, if Nolan did that on purpose but it was a bit frustrating given the already complex plot. But overall..damn ! the visuals, the music, the action, Elizabeth Debicki :D ...it was everything. Looking forward to my multiple viewing of the film !
You’re missing one key little surprise: Neil could be Kat’s son from the past. Because at the end of the movie where John ties up loose ends with that one lady that was going to kill her, he’s watching over Kat AND her son AKA Neil
THEORY: Neil is actually Kat's son from the future??? that sounds strange but I thought it and well I cant stop thinking about it...Either way I loved this film and this breakdown has helped my after process. Still gona watch it again next week tho
Just saw it today and yeah that's it, that's why it zooms into the sons blonde streak in his hair and why Rob Pattinsons naturally darker hair was dyed lighter for the movie It may not be explicitly stated but it's pretty clearly shown
Ryano966 Hmmm interesting. My dad didn’t seem to agree because the son’s name is max, but I guess he goes by Neil so it doesn’t jeopardise the mission and change the outcome of things if ‘the protagonist’ caught on or whatever. It’s very interesting to think how that happens tho because Wouldn’t you think Kat wouldn’t allow her son she loves so much to do this in the future ? Also wouldn’t Neil have more emotional investment within the mission and Kat, also seen as it revolves around the death of his biological father (who was abusive to his mother) ? Unless he’s been trained That Well and knows how important it is I dunno. Interesting tho
@@connordorrian1079 I mean there's no reason to change robs hair colour to match the kids Also he says at the end that what's happened and that's not an excuse to do nothing but meant to have faith in how things should happen (can't remember the exact words) so he understands fully well that what he does is necessary to save his mother From the start we see he's not as emotional as the protagonist when they break into the building to talk with the arms dealer, the protagonist chokes out a guard where as Neil just sticks a bullet in another one Also Neil sees that the assailant in the Freeport is the protagonist but says nothing and hides it expertly from the protagonist in real time so I don't see any reason why he would be unable to keep in check The most important theory is the kill your own grandfather paradox, if Neil went back and killed his father he knows the world would end and he wouldn't exist in that moment to go back and kill him in the first place if he was to be successful, so he never has the idea to deviate and kill his father He grows up in a world where she is alive and cares for him so when he goes back in time he knows what he's fighting for to sure that future
Ryano966 Damn. That makes a lot of sense now. I really gotta watch this the 2nd time round and catch all this, I feel I wasn’t paying as much attention as you did 😅 Tbf I did find myself losing some of the speech because it was drowned with background noise or mixed strangely at times, but I deffo gotta keep this all in mind for the re watch. Thanks for the explanation man. I love real films like this that spark conversations...
Did anyone else notice that the heist scene with the fire truck is actually SHOT BACKWARDS AND WAS THEN INVERTED TO GO FORWARD IN THE MOVIE? Does that even make sense? Maybe I'm wrong but i got the strong feeling it was while watching it. Whoa.
It was fun walking past the line in the cinema of those who are going to see the movie next and tell them: „You don’t know yet, but you do not understand“
There's a theory that Max is actually Neil. Neil was not recruited by John in the past but in the future. I don't know if it's a correct assumption but I like it
Remember when sator said his worst mistake is bringing his son into this world? Maybe it's foreshadowing because neil was the one who prevented "protagonist" death by sacrificing himself
I think this is correct. When the protagonist ask kat what was the date that they sent to vacation on the boat, She didn’t remember, but Neil did remember the date. That point out that he knows because he was there
I literally asked them to turn the sound down in our theater cause it was making me anxious it was so loud, anyone else?? The movie was a lot more enjoyable and the dialogue was easier to understand after that
Welll i believe the movie might be a bit longer.... because there where some attrocious cuts on the movie (the inside the container part for example)...
It's not about logic but emotion. The movie is heavily dependent on NON-VERBAL Communication (object language, sign language and action language). The verbal content is not as important as the symbols, action, objects and hand gestures in the movie. INTUITION, is a huge theme in the movie because of this.. Nolan wants you to feel the movie. This is why audio was not important. This is why the ALGORITHM was actually a metallic mechanical dna strand. The "Cold war" in the movie was actually a "Religious War". Ultimately the movie is NOT about you understanding the movie on a logical level but more on an emotional level, designed to make you question your beliefs and where they will lead humanity. Will we destroy ourselves because of our belief systems? What kind of reality have we created and how will it effect our posterity?
@@-homechord-2908 Exactly! We are headed for our own annihilation if we don't stop to see the reality that we are all creating in concert. (Movie starts with a concert)
I have my own theory that the scientist who 'killed' herself is actually Priya. One thing I noticed is that the events of the movie are a palindrome. Sator falls in the body of water twice, protagonist fights himself twice, Kat visits the same vacation twice, the car chase scene happens twice, the plane crash happens twice. The only thing that we don't see happen twice is Priya and the scientist. And my theory is the same way the scientist dies in the future, she will die again when reversed which does happen at the end of the movie where protagonist kills her.
Riccardo Modena That’s true but my point was they talk about the scientist’s death but we don’t actually see it. Yet somehow Priya knows a lot about the machine and at the end she dies regardless (loose end).
It seems the only way this could be at all possible is if Priya was lying about the invention being created so far into the future, I believe she said it was "generations" ahead. She was already probably at least mid 50's at the point we see her, surely you can only invert during the period of your own single lifetime.
If the scientist had anything to do with the making off the time machines, then Priya could not have done it. Because everything that happened in this movie, will just keep happening, like a loop. Because Kat said that she saw a woman diving from the boat. When she kills Sator at the end, she also jumps from the boat. When she jumps, the Kat from that time sees her. Priya said that it was a scientist in the future that made the object. Its stated in the movie that the timemachine technology came from the Future, and since this scientist lived generations later, it means that Priya would be dead at the time. So I dont believe it was Priya.
You did a better job than the actual movie of explaining the movie. I think this movie will struggle with reviews because it is just too effing confusing. 7/10
Check out our video on why we think Neil is actually Kat’s son here ua-cam.com/video/mLPospf45Xc/v-deo.html
robert openheimer/atomic bomb designer nice little bender reference there, rip
You watch it the second time you realize he's on the first time travel team and he doesn't no it!
thank you, seen it. now i feel a bit better about my theory, because i see a lot of other people had the same thought. and i do hope your deeper analisys is confirmed. also, if this theory proves to be correct, i think that Niel's way of time travel (the very first one, when he gets to our timeline) is different than inversion. by inversion he should have been much older than he is. i really need to go see tha movie again
Hey, small correction: Kat seeing herself wasn't what lead to them being estranged again, it was his offer to let her go free if only she agrees to never see her son again, which made her angry enough to smash the raspberries & bowl
(could be because he knows his adult son will attempt to undo the bomb??)
Theory: The scientist who was referred to as creating the technology in the future is the woman who shows inversion technology to John/The Protagonist's character.
I've watched it twice. Going to watch it for the first time yesterday.
Bro literally
Yeah, but backwards 🤔
😭😭
😂😂😂
Bro you basically did the plot of the movie.
The movie was great, can’t wait to see the trailer
Comment of the video
I guess I was the girl who saw you watch the trailer and came to tell u that u will njoy the movie !
@@heavyspoilers stolen tho
Heavy Spoilers pin it
You have already seen the trailer , you just don't know it yet.
Halfway through the film, I'm wondering if I'm just stupid
I’m gonna watch it again just so I can fully capture what happened.
@@Oskxre same
😂 I tried looking around to see if anyone else in my theater was as confused as I was
Same. I had no fucken idea what was going on lol
I didn't know wtf was going on at any point lol
I've never been so thrilled to go to the cinema and lose 5 years worth of hearing.
SonicTurboTurtle I’m assuming this was to counteract the scenes with muffled dialogue so the viewers had a better chance of hearing it
@Lucas Awad It's a Nolan thing. The dialogue in his newer movies is so muffled, that the theaters turn up the volume way to much. My ears were literally ringing for hours after coming home. It was the same with Dunkirk. Nolan seems to be the only one doing this.
It was SOO LOUD
I have a doubt, the movie is not launched yet so how did you guys saw the movie?
I can't find it on torrent!
*Hans zimmer has left the chat*
SATOR
AREPO
TENET
OPERA
ROTAS
is a mysterious Latin inscription of unknown origin. It is a square and can be read forwards, backwards, downwards and upwards.
Sator is the bad guy
Arepo is mentioned as character off screen
Tenet well that's the title
Opera refers to the opera house from the prologue
Rotas is the name of the vault organisation
The whole sentence is a bigger palindrome in which the word Tenet holds the central position.
tenet also indicates the final battle scene, where ten minuets forward meets the team going ten minuets backward. soTE(N)ET
This has blown my little mind
L C hoooly shit
Hussain Sidat what? You just saying his comment about the three words is mind blowing? Or are you pointing out something more?
🤯
Nolan: Hold my beer.
Me: There are no good time travel movies anymore.
I see what you did there
Smart. Very smart.
Well played
smart
Not a movie, but you should give 'Dark' a try if you haven't already
I walked out of the cinema backwards to confuse everyone.
Me too!
If I go to the theaters to see this Im’a do that, too
I did it, it was funny
Ye same I got so many confused looks
@@rbxcamo6236 Yeah, I forgot to clarify, that it was funny only for me :|
Stupid people
classic time travel: if you're fighting someone at the beginning and you don't see their face, it's probably your future self
i knew it was either himself from the future or Neil from the future. I thought when Neil chases the protagonist in the gas mask suit and takes his mask off he was looking at himself which is why he was shocked
I thought the same but why did the future self try to shoot himself from the past during their fight?
HawkeyedSentinel he was deliberately shooting to the side to use up all of the bullets, you see future self trying to remove the gun magazine etc! But obv to past self he thought he was actually trying to shoot him
HawkeyedSentinel because he had been in the past, he knew he had shot and missed.
i called it
This movie made Inception seem like a Spongebob movie.
LMAO
Hahaha I laughed so hard I dropped my dinner
Eliot Page was still a female then
Same director, probably learned from his mistakes
i still prefer inception.
Nolan: Yes
Interviewer: So Nolan, how much are you gonna mess with time?
Looooool
Flawless comment.
Lmaooooo
you won😂😂😂
Only people who watched the movie will understand
not sure if it was just the cinema i was in, but i could barely hear any of the dialogue.
Had the Same problem in dubai cinemas lol
Me too
Yeah was the same for me a bit, really had to focus on what they were saying to understand it
thats y im waiting for planning to go to Eng sub show, unfortunately only 4 shows are available each day (2 in morning and 2 in night)but need to sacrifice imax or atmos experience, here in Singapore
yes, i think a lot of us. had the same problem. I am native spanish speaker, living in Austria and i saw it in English on IMAX, really hard to get some dialogue . you have to watch it at least twice to get all anyway. IMO
The only thing that Nolan messes with more than time is sound. Couldn’t hear so much dialogue in this it was infuriating
That was the point. When they replay the scene again you can hear what is being said
Chris Fellows nah that wasn’t the point. Certain Important pieces of explanation at the beginning of the movie are super quiet, and aren’t repeated for any other part of the movie. It’s seems like a sound mixing issue
yeah it's a real shame, i might go to a screening with subtitles next time
You neither? I thought it was something to do with the cinema
Had the same experience 🤦♂️ I'll probably be watching this again and again but only with subtitles
The soundtrack definitely gives this film so much edge. Those big booms during the opera house scene literally gave me goosebumps!
Yeah, the score is amazing.
I hope it gets a CD release at some point.
For real. The scores they used, especially during the opera scene, created so much tension. The bass was insane
@Mark Tubera thanks Mark.
I am kinda 'old school' though, & prefer CDs or even vinyl if it's the only (physical) option
The music played a huge part in the big battle scene at the end aswell. Giving it a "reversed" vibe when blue team was in shot and regular vibe when red team was in shot
While I agree with you, I must say, it was so uncomfortably loud that the speakers must have had the hairs on my arms raising anyway, goosebumps or not 😆
Christopher Nolan in interstellar: Time can squeeze and stretch but it can't go backwards
Me after watching TENET(Tyler the creator voice): so that was a f*ckin lie
Wasn't that also a lie in Interstellar, in the end?
@@FirstnameLastname-hq5rd Not really, based on the in universe explanation. It was a kind of loophole where gravity could transcend time as a means to send a message back to his daughter. Time overall still moved forward throughout, but certain events formed a closed loop that had always been that way (similar to in Tenet).
@@mushin111 Ahh ok, that's where I was getting confused.
Sending a message back in a closed loop via gravitational forces is still kinda time travel to me ;)
@Francis Clark The strange thing about this movie is that it touched on anti matter particles to describe the objects going back in time. But this has nothing to do with anti matter, since anti matter is literally just matter with opposite charges. Also anti matter would immediately annihilate itself and any matter it touches. Ignoring that though, it can be said that anti matter is just normal matter but travelling backwards through time. This isn't necessarily true, but it works and makes sense. So your description was quite brilliant. Just like anti matter, time doesn't go backwards, it goes forwards in reverse.
We need to find Michael Caine and ask him to explain it to us.
Neil also gave a hint we they first meet , that the protagonist didn’t like soda water ,he liked Diet Coke .
Yes!
it works differenly with fore knowledge
Like when you get the big reveal in sixth sense and go through the rest of the movie again realising " HOLY SHIT YEA! Bruce Willis never talks to anyone else"
In the beginning it just seems like its some spy games type shit. Or my interpretation was, that Neil was sent from the future, with information about John. i didn't know the information would be so direct lol
!dneirf,gninnigeb eht ta uoy ees lliw I
Just got back from this so many little bits that make sense when you watch it
Spoiler below
“Gin and tonic and a Diet Coke for him”
“How did you know??”
Holy crap yesss
It’s vodka tonic
Vodka-tonic
*Vodka and Tonic
@@TheMandinotan Maybe it was a vodka tonic in the past or future
I loved how even the music of the movie score was “reversed” in the “inverted” scenes.
No one is talking about that guy who got his face cheese grated lol 😂💀
I cringed when he first got his hand grated.
That was crazy 🤣🤣
@Chronic Mind u haven’t watched the movie then lol 😆
It was grate
awww, that was cheesy
I don't understand people who get upset over spoilers, when the channel is called HEAVY SPOILERS.....
they just don't appreciate time travel. personally, i watch this first, then go back and watch the film
@@TwistedReality13 I admire your optimism. Since theaters won't be open anytime soon in California I just went straight to the spoilers LMAO. When theaters decide to open I'm still going to go watch it. It's certainly worth watching in theaters.
@@gustavorosas4065 it is great
@@TwistedReality13 that's the same case for me too sometimes for example for "the boys"
I don't have amazon prime so i watched youtube videos and yeah i got spoiled but still was interested or rather even more interested
And it's in the fucking title AND the thumbnail too.
This film is going to age so well as a Nolan classic. I can see it age the same way Inception did. Luke warm reception until people fully grasp the concept and gain appreciation for the ideas
it's not the concept people have a problem with though. It's that the movie is built soley to serve that concept and in turn character suffers for it. The pacing in the beginning is so insanely fast flipping from location to location with nothing in the middle, things just go from moment to moment that is becomes jarring and hard to connect with people. I literally felt like the protagonist actor was just reading his lines from a script, there was no meat to anything that was happening. The beginning almost zoned me out to where i did not care. It took the actual plane scene and the fight with himself to finally pull me in. That is a long time into a film to meet the 'the hook'. So many people will not like it simply for that not that they won't understand. Time travel films always are loved for the most part and it is what gets people debating for the film for years to come but this film does not have the advantage of well built likeable characters to push through that conversation like movies like the terminator or back to the future and shit. Films where the concept is not the only thing people like it's the actual characters. That is just my opinion though I liked the film for the concept and the visuals but everything else was just too blah
@@guitarman0365 Bingo! That's exactly how I felt. No emotional connection with any of the characters. Didn't care if they succeed or not. I did enjoy the beginning of the movie (opera scene) but then it never settled down to build the protagonist back story and just continued jumping from one scene to another like you said. At least in Inception we knew that Cobb felt guilty that his wife killed herself because of him and that he was willing to do anything to be with his children again.
This film has already aged so well. It has a cult following from where I'm from in my timeline 😅
@@guitarman0365 it's supposed to feel that way because its happening over and over again and not wasting time with explanation when you find out in the end. The end of the movie is the beginning of the movie, and vice versa so you wouldn't need all of the explaining. It would be redundant at that point.
cinematically it is not as.compelling as inception. i think people will not like it
Spoiler Alert: Christopher Nolan is from the future and is inverted.
actually makes total sense
Is that why he has better actors in the past?
I am oddly confused and entertained at the same time
😂😂😂 literally, only christopher nolan
YungJayVEVO .YungJay exactly
And that's the movie
The plot of the movie is so thin Nolan needed to confuse the shit out of the audience with time inversion as to make it seem more complex than it is.
The movie summarized perfectly
Theater: Nolan, please save us from Covid.
Nolan: Okay, I will make them watch the movie twice.
They better release the Blu-ray of the movie as soon as possible.
I think for getting movie we need to watch it TENet times
And teNET times watch it backwards
This film probably requires a second viewing anyway
@@vinniechan Exactly. I work and live in Sarawak East Malaysia. Saw the movie twice. Initial viewing took time to understand it
Never saw any Trailers or reviews. I certainly enjoyed the movie.
Second time was even better
Actually, just remember few things will help you understand a lot:
1 watch out the red pendant(Very important);
2 It is not time travel. It is single time line but the tech allow people going backward in time.
3 whatever happened will happen. This is not MCU going into past to change the outcome.;
Finally, I have only one question: Max is Neil?
Kate's son's full name is Maximi-lian .... lian is pronounced Neil backwards 🤯
I'm might be wrong, but don't they go back in time when they go back to the moment where Sator is on the boat in Vietnam, you know, the moment he picked to kill himself because that is when they still had a nice relationship? That can't all be happening all at the same time as everything else in the movie, no? I don't know the dates used in the movie out of my head.
EDIT: I just realized they sat on the boat, going back in time for almost a week, but that was in order to rescue Kate, right? But again, don't know the dates out of my head.
@@caleidoo I’m confused about that too.... !?
Need a breakdown and explanation of this breakdown and explanation.
😂💯
Ditto
Lol
Periodt
Facts
When she pushed him off the boat and he smacked his head, I laughed so hard
My balls shrunk to the size of atoms during that scene
That shit had me dead laughing in the theatre😂
Jen An at least they didn’t go in your throat😳
deserved for all he did to her
Haha same and it was so satisfying to watch him die too
we need subtitles for every nolan film if he’s just gonna create characters with heavy accents and hire the worst mixers in the world.
Agreed. Just seen it and some audio sounded muffled
and wear masks
*laughs in non-english speaking nation*
Accents were fine but just couldn't hear half the stuff they were saying
Hahah, I completely agree, If you were going to make a movie as complex as this one at least let us hear the freaking dialogue!!
Anyone else’s brain genuinely hurting
Yes
.seY
Confused. I think the movie doesn't have to execute in the way to make people's brain hurt. The concept is good and the execution can be better with more scenes to explain the whole thing, and a different way of editing the movie might help. The editor for the movie is Jennifer Lame, she and Nolan are new collaborator so I think she didn't get Nolan's mind to edit the film in the way that make us understand and get the whole thing easier. She is a good editor but always edited movies that worked in linear fashion than Tenet.
Literally my brain when watching the movie
Yes it felt like I was having a seizure
This movie was would have been much easier is to understand if there was no music blaring over the dialogue for like 90% of the movie.
Welcome to a nolan movie n if I didnt love hans zimmer music (my fav musician of all time) I would agree but in all nolan/zimmer collabs the music fits all the time
I literally couldn’t hear half the dialogue lmao
*This movie would have been much easier to understand if it hadn't been for the music blaring over the dialogue for approximately ninety per cent of the movie.
wish Hans Zimmer would have done the music, then i'd be all for it lmao
@@pain21229 Zimmer didn't do the soundtrack for this movie
So Nolan, what about the sound effects?
Nolan: *B A S S*
You should watch my tenet video brah
I ain't complaining
😂😂😂
I hardly watch ‘Ending Explained’ but this movie made me do it.
Who here agrees that Tenet was more mindboggling than Inception and Interstellar?
Makes memento look like a kids movie
Too confusing. I didn’t enjoy it :/
To the point that it’s a much worse movie than the other teo
Nope
It was a mindboggling bad movie for sure.
the protagonists first meeting with Neil isn’t Neils first meeting with the protagonist yet Neils first meeting with the protagonist won’t be the protagonists first meeting with him
mind: blown
I hate you bro lol
Also it will be The Protagonists LAST meeting with Neil since he dies at the end of the movie on the other side of the cage/underground bunker.
Jarod Mardis no it won’t. It will be for Neil but the protagonist will go on to meet a younger Neil in the future after he dies at the end of the first movie
@@juxe411 The Older Protagonist met the Younger Neil in the past, but unless the Older Protagonist had other "missions" with the Younger Neil then this is in fact his LAST time meeting him.
Jarod Mardis ??? it’s not the protagonists last time talking with neil then if an OLDER protagonist meets younger Neil? No matter what time travel or what point in time the protagonist after parting with Ives and Neil in the desert will go on to meet a younger Neil so it’s not his last time meeting with Neil. It’s obviously Neils last time considering he’s about to die
Inception: Five minutes in the real world gives you an hour in the dream
Interstellar: Because of the time slippage. On this planets time, she landed here just hours ago. She might've only died minutes ago
Tenet: Hold my beer...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Don’t forget Memento
Bro right damn Christopher Nolan I was so confused well Tenet reached my top 3 movies and I don’t even fully understand it yet
Lmao!!
Lmao!!
Apologies to my US Subscribers. Had no idea when to upload this so thought I'd just get the video done today whilst the movie is still fresh in my mind. If you haven't seen it but are here anyway I recommend you try and watch the film unspoiled as it's definitely worth checking out without having the twists ruined. Cheers - Deff
Probably not going to watch till it goes in blu Ray. Don't trust US theaters even with extra precautions in place. People are still protesting wearing masks which is ridiculous
Yeah, before all this I used to wonder why the second wave of Spanish flu happened, now we know
DO YOU!!! THIS YO STATION!!! THEY CLICKED ON IT!! DON'T APOLOGIZE!!!! Thank you!!!
No worries, Deff. Since viewing the very first trailer I suspected I would need be strictly sober before viewing this on the big screen. You've only helped reinforce my suspicion. P.S. No spoilers but if you would like your head "to fold in on itself" I recommend to you the writings of Karl (John) Friston FMedSci FRSB FRS, whose name I half-expect to see among Tenet's end credits.
@@e3vL1 in many ways you'll be better off, Subtitles are a must for this movie! There's the obligatory vehicular set piece, which is always unparalleled.
To say it's mindbending is a vast understatement, ironically the movie is it's own paradox; to understand what's going on, reading of online articles is required... which may contain spoilers..!!?? Not the most audience pleasing Nolan creation but a spectacle none the less.
Just a small correction: The character is called PRIYA and not PRAYA
The colonizer can't even pronounce it properly lol
Just saw it a few hours ago since the movie is playing already here in germany! It´s Nolans best work of all his "grounded action movies". By that i mean that the action sequences even tho beeing super "grounded" without almost any CGI are feeling the heaviest they ever did. The fist-fight between batman and bane is a bad joke against one brawl in a kitchen in this movie! i´m not even kidding!
Probs!
DerToastBroad the set pieces were cool but felt so hollow, plot was way too rushed and glossed over to care about imo
luke wilding I feel like it was way too large of a plot concept to fully materialize in a film. Probably would have been better served as a mini series or something a long those lines. On the other hand, maybe the plot holes would become too large if stretched out into something longer than a 3 hour movie. Hard for me to say, I'm no director or writer, just some dude laying in bed writing this... Goodnight ✌️
kmac89NHL it felt like part 1
i do believe "the dark knight rises" is Nolans weakest movie he's ever done. still a good movie tho
Yep!
I've not seen anyone talk about this but it keeps on spinning in my head... the female scientist who created the algorithim in the future, couldn't she be Clémence Poesy's character in the beginning of the movie explaining inversion to JDW?
wow goddamn you might be right, especially since she didn't want to intervene with what was happening around her since she didn't want herself to be involved, but only explain how inversion works. (this has a lot of logic since the things she knows could be dangerous if got in the wrong hands) If you're right there are probably more clues in the movie that would prove this.
It is possible that there was a Terminator-style self-creating invention happening. This scientist is brought in to study these inverted objects, spends years studying the underlying physics and eventually comes up with the theory behind inversion. She then uses this to create the inversion process itself and eventually the algorithm, creating the situation where the objects that she'd previously studied are produced. My only issue is that I got the impression that the algorithm was invested further into the future than would fit this theory, but I can't recall what gives me that impression so I may have just assumed this
I think you’re right
@@taffia i think because they mentioned it was created several generations ahead
Priya mentioned that the inventor of the algorithm was generations into the future so any attempts for the inventor to invert back in time to change things would result in her "dying of old age" before she could arrive there
I wish Christopher Nolan could invert his production on Tenet to go back and add some emotional depth to the characters, but it is still a fascinating movie. I'll take an original concept any day over another sequel or rehash.
my thoughts exactly, it was boring until everything starting merging, but they focused so little on the characters and their emotional bonds that i didn't even know their names. i think the plot twists make up for it but it was something they could have worked on.
Why do people complain about characterization lol
Nolan’s movies are generally plot driven, which is why I’m paying to see them. I’m not paying to feel sympathy towards the character, I’m paying to see what new concept Nolan is trying to bring to the screen
I know what you mean
The main guy had a lot of one liners that didn't fit in the attitude of the scene
Just remember, that is the whole point of the movie. They are all intelligence/temporal agents who shouldn't know much about their co-agents. Knowing too much will compromise the temporal progress of the past/future. Hence 'no chit chats' and 'ignorance is our ammunition' are included twice or thrice into the movie dialogues. It is also main reason the protagonist doesn't have a name so we don't get attached to one single character. Its a very plot driven until very end where you understand that John and Robert's character share a very special bond which jump start the saving of world. In a way, movie talks about human emotion without portraying them in-depth. Nolan truly is a genius.
@@SarathKumar-bp2go after my last comment, I watched the movie again. And I totally agree, I also really liked how their relationship was shown at the end, it’s not very often we see men get emotional and on the verge of tears in a film, and it was just so pure
Sold me on the part where the protagonist is fighting himself backwards. Don't care if everyone is saying they could not hear the dialogue, this film appears to be a masterpiece.
So I'm not the only one, I didn't get the entire part about the painting and blackmail because I couldn't hear shit, if I could actually understand what they were saying I would've got it the first time around
I can't even understand what they are saying. The dialogue was so muffled.
Not for me I have heard about that tho
Boom mic operator was social distancing
The passive aggressive conversations were annoying
Bro yes. I was really digging the score in the opening scene. But once it was over, their dialogue was just being drowned out by the music. It would’ve really helped to have some dialogue and silence so i can get the jist of their plan and where they were going and who they were meeting and shit. the score helped and hurt this movie for me.
Neil is Kate’s son that John recruits and develops a “beautiful friendship” with
Interesting
The female scientist at the beginning is the future Oppenheimer that splits and hides the algorithm parts then kills herself
Also John is the founder of Tenet
So was Neil , the guy sweeping the glass up at first when Kate told him to stop she’ll take care of it?
huh, gaaaaaaaaay
NBA2K RECREATOR No, Neil is the little kid
I had a thought while watching does anyone reckon the Nell is actually Kat's son grown up? He states they were old friends and given the talk about the grandfather paradox I wonder if it was part of the plot at one stage. The only downside to this is the interactions Neil has with Kat do not in anyway hint at this nor does he show any protectiveness or real fondness for Kat as you would expect of a Son. Any just a discussion point I thought I'd share.
I thought the exact same
Thought the same thing. At the end of the movie John said something like "now there's a kid who will change the world" and the screen panned to the son. The kid's hair is also kinda similar to Neil's.
I too was wondering about that crate scene. We never did get to know the sons name did we? For now, it’s certain that Neil is close to both of them.
Maybe they tried that in one timeline and it messed everything up. So this time they had to go back and not mention it. This who movie was like a big chess game in time traveling/ 8
@@Candy4Bullets Neil=Maximil/LIEN
I reckon I'm relatively smart, right, but I had no idea what was going on. For almost every scene, I had no clue what was actually happening. Did anyone else have this? I didn't understand the car chase, the point of the artwork, the stuff on the Sator's yacht, trying to save Kat's life, the final battle, the scenes with Priya, how inversion makes any physical sense, the link between Sator and the end of life itself, the whole bit in the bunker at the end. I mean, add in the terrible sound mixing on the dialogue and some mad edits and the whole things was incomprehensible. Does anyone else think it was absolutely shocking? And I love Nolan by the way, and still do, but he lost it here IMO.
Saw it for a second time last night and muddled dialogue aside, the big problem with watching this film initially is not knowing exactly what you need to pay close attention to in order to understand it. For a second viewing I knew what I found most confusing so could pay extra close attention to the context. It requires highly active viewing, especially given the oft-times choppy editing. I think I have it mostly worked out after two views but I do believe Nolan failed to convey some of the plot vital points clearly.
Just watch it 2-3-4 times until you succeed 😌 It seems like you weren't paying attention in the exact moment - the scene sequence when Sator shot Kat and our guy went invertet. Nolan yet provided us with another unique concept and it deserves every peny no matter how many times you'd go to the cinema in order to understand it.
I'm a Nolan fan from the Memento and I thought I would have a chance of understanding but an hour in i turned to my best friend who is a massive Nolan fan and asked if he knew what was happening and what was the purpose of it all and we both drew a blank. Second half of the movie started to make more sense and Nolan has intended it this way I reckon. 2nd and 3rd viewings will help
Bang on, mate. I didn’t follow from minute one what was going on and, for the rest of the movie, was angrily trying to speed up my thinking and scramble my brain to try and retrospectively work through and understand what I just saw while simultaneously trying to follow the next bout of incomprehensible dialogue that I could barely hear properly anyway. The action scenes appeared to be awesome but I couldn’t enjoy them because I didn’t get what was actually happening in them or why. If I don’t get how a scene is possible, even in universe, then I can’t suspend my disbelief to just enjoy it - kept trying to reset my brain and say, “right, you know they’re just going to go nick the last piece of algorithm and stop the world ending - just work with that,” but then there was so much time swapping I got lost again! Such an utterly frustrating film to watch, and at times it felt like it was almost gloating about how confusing it was with some dialogue like, “don’t try to understand it,” and, “is your head hurting yet?”
Aran Knowles so the whole film then? 😂
I watched this movie tomorrow, I can’t wait to wake up yesterday
Exactly 😆
I just don't think Nolan pulled off the time premise as elegantly as he did with Inception or Interstellar.
The physics of it were pretty messy, like how was he gonna have control of the car if all the forces and frictions were inversed?
Leonardo Filippini also when he and Neil went back in time to the plane scene they heard the explosion and then went in. Surely if they were going backwards through time, there would already be mass panic and when they heard the explosion everything would be back to normal? Idk if I made sense or not but it’s hard to make sense of it all anyway
We’ll all get answers after multiple viewings. But that inverted car scene, the protagonist was controlling the car in reverse. You could tell how strange he seemed to be even walking and getting in the car. If we are here talking about it with confusion means there’s information we yet have to uncover.
Y'all are sleeping on Dunkirk. That's when Nolan perfected using time as a storytelling device.
Just watched it here in Australia. Hardest part of the movie to get a notion of what is going on, is the time chamber interrogation after the first car chase run. Inverted Sator threatens inverted Kat, while asking questions to non inverted John, who i don't know how, was able to understand reversed english. Holy shit. Sator shoots Kat I don't understand how is that an inverted wound, she was also inverted which makes the wound a normal wound, I think. Sator leaves, John switches room to check on Kat and all the sudden the events that led to Kat's shooting are reversed, however she is still wounded. Then John learns about time inversion. I need a hand here.
Also dont get why they need to move out of the chamber she got injured at and go to the one on the art warehouse. Why didn't they stayed..They needed the wound to heal before reverting to normal so might as well get closer to the algorithm piece they were chasing?
I have no idea why Sator's English was reversed in that scene. Never ever again is English reversed in this movie even if the person is reversed. Plus wearing masks is super random, sometimes they need it sometimes they don't
@@groberti inverted people's experience of time feels reversed to a normal person. That is why the english from inverted Sator is received by John in reverse. I partially understand the mechanic of time here but haven't been able to make sense of it all. Everything happens so fast that you don't get a chance to digest an ounce. That is also why the red soldiers never speak to the blue ones at the end. You would received the message in reverse, and why NeiI had to de-reversed himself to warm John about the tunnel trap.
Grobee I thought that about the masks at first, but I think that whenever they are moving backwards they have them on, unless they are in the rooms covered by the sheets. At other points they are in the past, but moving forward, and thus don’t need a mask
@@jhjhbihih8494 If they are in the past they are inverted. So would still need a mask. This is a plot hole when they arent wearing masks
@@alexzela6250 Nope. They're time travelling. They invert,go back some time and then invert back,so they're not inverted.
Japanese here
My wife said it was easy to understand the story.
I’m wondering she came from the future 🤔🤔🤔
Why is Nolan this smart. I can’t follow and it’s killing me
Audience: "Wow the way he inverted those movements and explosions is so cool!"
Nolan: *literally has Actors running and fighting backwards and has found a way to locally reverse time to get those shots*
Actually many shots (like the war on the end) are shot with ppl coreographed moving backwards... and when we see the reversed ones, the others are doing also choreographed moving back... There is no camera trick that...
@@LordPaulusCobris whoosh
The only way to understand Tenet is by watching it Backwards.
~Albert Einstein~
I...don’t...think he said thaaat.....😂😂
@@luisdevita3054 I most definitley did
~Albert Einstein~
I’ve been thinking about how to approach this review on Tenet without giving the impression of bashing the movie or hating on it. Cause I did like this movie but I certainly have a lot to say. Let’s start with this, I was like everyone else with Tenet. I was super excited, who wouldn’t be! Christopher Nolan directing, big budget summer blockbuster, with a complex plot, awesome trailer and a great cast! I’ve been waiting for this movie for a long time and as soon as I found a showtime for my city I decided I had to go. So I saw Tenet and I have to say, this is a Christopher Nolan movie. It has his style of direction all over it. The complex and dense plot, big action spectacles and a long runtime. Will people like it, most likely unfortunate for me not so much. What really bothered me about this movie was the plot and how Nolan told this story. It didn’t feel cohesive or even understandable really but rather very confusing, rushed and the outcome of it all made me question what was the purpose of all that just happened. Even some of the plot points of this movie that kinda make sense doesn’t actually do. Like I didn’t really know much about the villain or his goals and there wasn’t enough character development to him other than a cliche evil plan, him being just a jerk but the actor who portrays him did a good job. The acting of this character gave an impression of unintentionally being funny and entertaining. But a lot of this movie felt like it was trying to be an extravaganza of action scenes, set pieces and dazzling spectacles. Luckily It does accomplish that though, a lot of the times. The action is really well done and does a lot of the spectacles. I just wish that the movie presented a more compelling story, because it felt as though it was kinda trying too. The story, plotting and even sometimes the screenplay felt so jumbled throughout the entire runtime. It tries to be so intellectual and complex but at the end it didn’t succeed at it. Overall Tenet wasn’t as great as I hoped for but, big and sometimes fun action scenes, good acting, sound design, and the look of the movie are all positives for Tenet. Maybe I just wasn’t smart enough to appreciate all this movie had to offer and that’s unfortunate, but I did have some fun with Tenet and think most people will enjoy it.
My thoughts exactly.
"It didn’t feel cohesive or even understandable really but rather very confusing, rushed and the outcome of it all made me question what was the purpose of all that just happened"
Well in my point of view it was meant like this. The protagonist is clearly the one behind everything outside (future) of the movie and also the one learning everything (inside the movie) along with us (the audience) and that is in my point of view why it did not feel cohesive and why it felt so confusing - because it was meant to feel that way so we can get to see it through protagonists point of view.
One more thing: Since the whole movie is based on "One word (TENET) and one gesture" - The whole movie is a palindrome, even the plot is made that way and you learn it throughout the movie as you see more and more of invertion alone and invertion along with normal flow and in some points of the movie you get to see the conjuction between normal and inverted flow of time. It´s best shown in the final battle where we get to see both teams (red and blue) points of view where if for example: RED look at his teammates/actions he sees normal flow of time and reverse flow on the counter (watch) but if he looks on the member of BLUE team he sees everything they do reverse/inverted but the clock would go clockwise - in normal flow and vice versa (if you switch teams). That idea is partially supported by Neil at the end. You can see how he kinda ignores his inverted self going out of turnstile and goes for that car that is there for the whole time of the final battle, but then goes back to fill the hole so he can be the dead guy behind doors who unlocks it, takes the bullet for the Protagonist, dies and closes the loop for the whole movie.
At least thats how I see it. I only saw it once yesterday and while I was watching I felt the same way as you but after whole night of putting my brain back together I found sense in the movie. That is why I love it even more, the movie doesn´t end with end credits you have to end it for yourself :D *Im definitely going to watch it at least 1-2 more times.
@@peterkolesar4020 yep nail on the head. I thought the same as the original poster throughout but you then 'inverted' my feelings on it. Thanks
Peter Kolesár woah man, I think you understood the movie. Thank you so much for explaining it better to me, I understand it a lot more now. You have a lot of great insight and I hope you can watch the movie again! ☺️
Yep, my biggest problem was that the story didn’t have a strong emotional core. Nolan’s movies usually have this heart at the centre to keep us grounded and invested in the character’s journey, like Cobb’s emotional journey to accept what happened with Mal and let go, or Coop’s mission to save the planet really being about him saving his own children and returning home to them. There was nothing like that in Tenet, so there was nothing to keep me distracted from all the little things that just didn’t make sense with the time inversion concept. Like, do they regurgitate food while going backwards? Do they poop in reverse? Plus sometimes they were reversed and then they would switch and be going forward, so how does that work with the timeline? Wouldn’t they all have had to journey back weeks to get to the yacht time again? But my biggest question is why did Nolan, who KNOWS about the importance of heart at the core of these stories (because he has talked about it in many interviews) forget to put one in this film?
Friend: so...how was the movie?
Me: All I have is a word for you...Tenet
remember to cross the fingers and show them lolx
@Heinrich Himmler And there is no friend at dusk.
''I dont work for you. Me and you work for me''
7:11 Actually Kat and Sato had already drifted apart. When she saw the woman she was returning to the boat after they had that big argument, things had been screwed up for quite a while.
She said that in that trip to Vietnam they were trying recreate one in which they were truly happy.
This is the comment I was looking for, you’re spot on. I thought the comments would be filled with people correcting this.
[Big spoilers omitted] Small correction: Kat and Max didn't drift apart after seeing the woman jumping from the yacht - they were already drifting apart, he already had power over her, but on that specific yacht trip she tried with all that she had to still love him. Then when she saw the woman jumping off, she was jealous that Max was letting her jump off the yacht freely, something that she could never do.
I think you mean Andrei.... Max was her son's name :)
@@yamo6911 no she means Sator lol ;)
Exactly my thoughts. This dudes is talking out of his ass.
@@Rainbow82469 full name is Andrei Sator
They drifted apart ‘cause Sator offer her to have freedom but never see her son again that’s why
**My friend eating my snacks**
Me in a Russian accent: How would you like to die??
Old.
@@jimbell89 You chose the wrong profession
* unleashes Russian roar and kicks wife *
@@marcusduck ouchh
I wanna die trying to remove my own severed balls from my mouth while i choke and bleed to death simultaneously. The Russian villain in the movie really sold me on it.
R.I.P to those who watched this movie without subtitles.
Issues with the sound, Mr Nolan - no more masks!
But #BlackJamesBond for sure.
8.5/9 out of 10
Are we not pure? “No, sir!” Panama’s moody Noriega brags. “It is garbage!” Irony dooms a man-a prisoner up to new era.
what you did there, I see it.
The Russian guy wasn’t tasked with “setting off the algorithm” he was just supposed to bury it - for 200 years so the future folks could find it and use it
Did he disobey them because he was gonna die and he said to Kat 'if I can't have u, nobody can' and in his self-obsessed narcissistic head, he wanted the world to die too
true, but the protagonist was aware of the need for the explosion to happen... the explosion is gonna happen regardless, but their mission was was to simply retrieve it so it wouldn't be burried in the explosion.. but i see what you mean in response to what the video "stated"
When you realize John David Washington is Denzel’s son... 🤯
😵
When you realize they even have the same last name! 🤯🤯🤯
WAIT WHAT?!
👀 Holy shit
And that John is also Denzel’s Father’s son
This sounds like it would be a very good Metal Gear Solid game. As a movie tho, I get people's complaints...
The game engine would need to be able to receive your controller inputs from the future so the inverted npc:s could interact with the series of actions you are going to take that is leading them backwards to your present moment in the game.
I thought that this was Robert Pattinson’s hottest role lol he was so suave and just 😍
I like my men sparkling
Mise'l Abram best part of the movie 😂
sooo true... I though my god, how hot is he 😍😍... never liked him in anything but here: Jesus...
thanks for reducing his efforts to walk away from that type cast to being hot
He was amazing in The Lighthouse and The Devil All The Time and so many others
Thanks for breaking it down in layman‘s terms. Because after watching IGN explaining I was even more confused bruh. Love your channel!
No problem, cheers for the comment
I thought Neil and Jon meets in the future, where Jon recruits him, and Neil is actually travelling backwards in the film until his death? Neil explain he's had a long lasting friendship with Jon while Jon will meet and recruit Neil at the end?
I don't think Neil travel back in time. He is already dead in the future. What I think happened is that at the end of movie, John starts the tenet operation & go backwards to recruit Neil. But I'm not sure if he told Neil that he's going to die or simply just gave him the instructions of what to do in the operation.
Yes, future John recruits Neil for the pincer operation the entire film depicts. Neil has travelled back in time to the opera house siege. The entire film is a grandfather paradox.
In reality John is from the future Niel is from the past. There are multiple versions of both going at the same time... ones inverted and others non inverted...
They are caring missions for Tenet. John goes inverted to the past and recruit Niel (we don´t see that version of John), we do see a version of John from the past that knows nothing about the TENET that he will be creating Years Later.
Its like an origin story for John, but its the end story for Niel...
The real kicker here is we don´t know if we can speed up reversion or not... How many times did john reverse itself to go back to the time... From where in the future is John from...
From what i see, going back in time is irreversible... So we might never see the future John...
@@thrunzala Yeah he did. His future self travelled back till the opera and it's that self that dies in the bunker. If you dont know that u kinda missed alot of the point. Theres another version of Neil alive somewhere who isnt recruited yet and probably at school or something.
J Martin Galasso I don't understand how is he alive at the future if he is dead at the cage already?
On my way home from this movie, the misses and I saw a car driving backward and it was the trippiest moment we ever experienced together.
Just back from seeing it. I dont know if it is the cinema I was at but I struggled to make out a lot of the dialogue.
Yeah same here, after spending time reflecting and hearing other people I believe it's by Nolan's choice; 'don't try to understand it, just feel it'
Same at my cinema
You mean acoustic or the sense?
@@valentins.905 acoustics were great . Action was loud and impactful. Just the dialogue was hard to comprehend in many scenes
i agree
Sorry but Sator's motivation is weak AF, "I'm going to kill everyone including my child that I'm trying to take away from my wife because I'm going to die of cancer." I was unable to put this aside, it was just too weak and glossed over.
Remember that sator is deeply selfish
@@tsheposeanego5582 Sure, but was it really the best they could find out?
That didn't bother me at all... Just look around at all the psychos in the real world. It will blow your mind once you hear out the motivations of some serial killers and criminals in general.
I agree, Sator lacked any depth as a character and his motivations could've been more complex. Given that this movie follows the premise the past cannot be changed, Sator should have expected his plan to fail or had been desperate to try and change things. If so, we should've seen a desperate despondent Sator who just wanted to have an impact on the world before passing away
@@FlyinBoi Very interesting, thank you!
Interviewer after I came out from the movie: How was Tenet?
Me: It hasn't started yet.
time isn't the problem....getting into the theater is the problem.
In my country, it is not I've seen it just 4 hours ago..
This is gonna go over a lot of heads
You're gonna go back in time and give this a 10/10 one day.
Probably after I do my Easter eggs video haha
I feel like my processor is too outdated to understand any of this
Here's an interesting easter egg. The film also references what's called the "Sator square". This is a real-life ancient roman word puzzle that has been found inscribed in ancient Roman cities. There are theories about it, but for the most part, it is a mystery. The Square reads: Sator, Arepo, Tenet, Opera, Rotas (The last two being Arepo and Sator backwards) all stacked on top of each other to form a square palindrome. Obviously, Kenneth Branagh's character is named "Sator", The forged painting was made by a man named "Arepo" (Tenet is obviously) and one of the scenes takes place in an Opera house. I don't didn't spot any references to "Rotas" but I've only watched it once so it might be in there.
the Rotas is the name of the vault organisation I guess I saw this somewhere not sure if its correct ;D
Rotas is Sator backwards 🤷♂️
Rotas is Sator inverted.
@@heavyspoilers Rotas is the name of the vault organisation
Just watched the film as soon as it came out in the uk. Was extremely hard to understand but loved all the action 😂
Why don’t you explain this to me like if i'm five
- Michael Scott
And please, speak as you might to a young child or...a golden retriever
@@DarkJak the latter. Definitely the latter 😂😂🤍🤍
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" You'll have this film explained to you better than IGN "
Best line of the entire video
I've been thinking about the best analogy to picture the two directions and how they interact, try this:
Think of the passage of time in this film as two long parallel treadmills in a room, running in opposite directions. There is a painfully bright light on one wall that signifies the physics of the dominant direction. The walls to either side show the world at your current position in time. You are on the treadmill that is travelling away from the light.
The turnstiles allow you to turn around and step onto the opposite treadmill. You are still travelling forwards from your perspective (and therefore aging), but the world is moving backwards through time around you. The bright light is shining in your face, so you need help to operate properly and people can't really do it for long. If you step into the turnstiles again then you are now in your past. This is how there was able to be multiple Neils in the final battle, he went through the turnstiles multiple times around the battle itself.
At all times you are travelling forwards from your perspective, so you are constantly aging. This means that if you step across and travel back for 3 days, then step back again and travel forwards for 10 days, you went through those 3 days two extra times and are 6 days older than your date of birth would suggest.
The purpose of the algorithm is to flip the light to the opposite wall. Now, when you step over to the other treadmill you are travelling back along the area you had previously been on, but without having to deal with the bright light.
I still think that there is more to inversion than just using the turnstiles, however that is based on a half-heard bit of conversation in the film so I may be wrong. Besides, the above is not how it works but just a way to picture what is happening
Saw this in IMAX and even though i’m 23 years old I am nearly deaf after 2 and a half hours
Netflix: Dark
Nolan: Hold my beer...
Yes dark is for sure 👍
I think both of them are really confusing with different ways. Dark is compliaciated but giving you chance to understand, it is taking slow and giving you explanation about things, you just have to understand. But Tenet is opposite. It doesn't want you understand itself. Movie is already so compliacated and it is not giving you a chance to understand, also dialogues are faster than light. It makes it nearly impossible to understand and raid progression of the story makes it litteraly impossible. When you are close enough to understand a thing, it gives you brand new things. What I mean is Dark is compliacated in positive way, Tenet is compliacated in negative way. I understood Dark, Inception, Donnie Darko... For example you can easilly understand Inception in first watch. For Tenet even you have 300IQ, you can't understand it, because it is not giving you time to understand. I am a Nolan fan, I love Nolan's movies. Inception, Interstellar, Prestige were one of my favorite movies of all time. If you want to understand this movie you have to watch it five times with 0.25 speed, it is only way to understand movie and it is not a good for a movie. I want to like the movie but there is no way for it. I had huge expectations but I am dissapointed. I will not believe someone who says he/she understood 100% of Tenet in first watch.
@@GHANIRVANA I watched Tenet yesterday and I understood pretty much everything. It's different from Dark, where - even with the concept of time travel - the story itself is pretty linear, therefor it's pretty easy to follow. In Tenet, you aren't meant to understand what's going on in the first half of the movie (just like the protagonist himself doesn't understand), but when the time reversing happens, you get all the pieces that you previously missed for fully understanding everything. So, at the end of the movie you really shouldn't have any questions about the plot, except those that Nolan intentionally left unanswered.
SirQuadrat That is the problem, %50 of the movie is unanswered, %40 of the movie is answered but it was so fast that you can't. You only clearly understand %10 of the movie. I love Nolan but we have to accept when someone made a mistake even if he is normally magnificent director.
@@GHANIRVANA I agree that this movie is way more fast-paced and non-linear than his other works. I don't consider that a negative though. Following the movie was absolutely doable if you pay attention and most questions you might have at the beginning get answered towards the end.
Just watched it. First reaction stepping out of the theater - "I am blown away ! this is the most magnificent and entertaining movie ever" Ofcourse I understood like only 50%,...probably less.
But, like some people already mentioned, I too had a hard time understanding what they were saying. Not sure, if Nolan did that on purpose but it was a bit frustrating given the already complex plot.
But overall..damn ! the visuals, the music, the action, Elizabeth Debicki :D ...it was everything. Looking forward to my multiple viewing of the film !
You’re missing one key little surprise: Neil could be Kat’s son from the past. Because at the end of the movie where John ties up loose ends with that one lady that was going to kill her, he’s watching over Kat AND her son AKA Neil
THEORY: Neil is actually Kat's son from the future??? that sounds strange but I thought it and well I cant stop thinking about it...Either way I loved this film and this breakdown has helped my after process. Still gona watch it again next week tho
Just saw it today and yeah that's it, that's why it zooms into the sons blonde streak in his hair and why Rob Pattinsons naturally darker hair was dyed lighter for the movie
It may not be explicitly stated but it's pretty clearly shown
Ryano966 Hmmm interesting. My dad didn’t seem to agree because the son’s name is max, but I guess he goes by Neil so it doesn’t jeopardise the mission and change the outcome of things if ‘the protagonist’ caught on or whatever. It’s very interesting to think how that happens tho because Wouldn’t you think Kat wouldn’t allow her son she loves so much to do this in the future ? Also wouldn’t Neil have more emotional investment within the mission and Kat, also seen as it revolves around the death of his biological father (who was abusive to his mother) ? Unless he’s been trained That Well and knows how important it is I dunno. Interesting tho
I wondered this too
@@connordorrian1079 I mean there's no reason to change robs hair colour to match the kids
Also he says at the end that what's happened and that's not an excuse to do nothing but meant to have faith in how things should happen (can't remember the exact words) so he understands fully well that what he does is necessary to save his mother
From the start we see he's not as emotional as the protagonist when they break into the building to talk with the arms dealer, the protagonist chokes out a guard where as Neil just sticks a bullet in another one
Also Neil sees that the assailant in the Freeport is the protagonist but says nothing and hides it expertly from the protagonist in real time so I don't see any reason why he would be unable to keep in check
The most important theory is the kill your own grandfather paradox, if Neil went back and killed his father he knows the world would end and he wouldn't exist in that moment to go back and kill him in the first place if he was to be successful, so he never has the idea to deviate and kill his father
He grows up in a world where she is alive and cares for him so when he goes back in time he knows what he's fighting for to sure that future
Ryano966 Damn. That makes a lot of sense now. I really gotta watch this the 2nd time round and catch all this, I feel I wasn’t paying as much attention as you did 😅 Tbf I did find myself losing some of the speech because it was drowned with background noise or mixed strangely at times, but I deffo gotta keep this all in mind for the re watch. Thanks for the explanation man. I love real films like this that spark conversations...
Christopher Nolan : Yes
Warner Bros : How can we confuse the audience even more?
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Did anyone else notice that the heist scene with the fire truck is actually SHOT BACKWARDS AND WAS THEN INVERTED TO GO FORWARD IN THE MOVIE? Does that even make sense? Maybe I'm wrong but i got the strong feeling it was while watching it. Whoa.
Me: I just saw a Christopher Nolan movie!
My friend: which one?
Me: the one about time.
My friend: do you realize how little that narrows it down?
Well, it's not Batman, that's for sure xD
It was fun walking past the line in the cinema of those who are going to see the movie next and tell them: „You don’t know yet, but you do not understand“
Deffinition: "However.. However.. However.."
Ryan Hollinger: *Is my 'Howeiveer' a joke to you?*
There's a theory that Max is actually Neil. Neil was not recruited by John in the past but in the future. I don't know if it's a correct assumption but I like it
Remember when sator said his worst mistake is bringing his son into this world? Maybe it's foreshadowing because neil was the one who prevented "protagonist" death by sacrificing himself
Love this!
I think this is correct. When the protagonist ask kat what was the date that they sent to vacation on the boat, She didn’t remember, but Neil did remember the date. That point out that he knows because he was there
Max = Maximilien = NEIL BACKWARD???
@@Circurose IMAX = Maxi backwards!
If you didn't understand, you can watch the video backwards and see the actual plot in straight line. 😂
The most difficult part of the movie to understand is the inversion sequences
Wait...,
So the protagonist died as in the beginning?
@@waterspray5743 no he survives. The pill was fake.
Actually it is a loop, you can either watch it frontwards or backwards.
Just like you can spell Tenet or teneT.
That’s Memento not Tenet
I literally asked them to turn the sound down in our theater cause it was making me anxious it was so loud, anyone else?? The movie was a lot more enjoyable and the dialogue was easier to understand after that
The movie is 150 minutes long but you really can’t tell because the editing is so tight. Excellent stuff.
Welll i believe the movie might be a bit longer.... because there where some attrocious cuts on the movie (the inside the container part for example)...
I just saw it. Its mind blowing . OMG something out of this world.
It's not about logic but emotion. The movie is heavily dependent on NON-VERBAL Communication (object language, sign language and action language). The verbal content is not as important as the symbols, action, objects and hand gestures in the movie. INTUITION, is a huge theme in the movie because of this.. Nolan wants you to feel the movie. This is why audio was not important. This is why the ALGORITHM was actually a metallic mechanical dna strand. The "Cold war" in the movie was actually a "Religious War". Ultimately the movie is NOT about you understanding the movie on a logical level but more on an emotional level, designed to make you question your beliefs and where they will lead humanity. Will we destroy ourselves because of our belief systems? What kind of reality have we created and how will it effect our posterity?
Huh. I mostly got 'boom boom pew pew ooh that guy's walking backwards!'
@@-homechord-2908 Exactly! We are headed for our own annihilation if we don't stop to see the reality that we are all creating in concert. (Movie starts with a concert)
I watched it today. First 45 or so minutes I'm like "DID NOLAN MAKE THIS " then when the first big boom revelation comes "YES HE DID BOOOOOM"
Yeah I think it’s so fast paced and jumpy early on it’s really difficult to follow, then everything slots into place and it’s perfect
This explaination actually explains nothing :D
All you did was repeating the plot...
I was wondering why nobody is pointing that out.
Because the plot is so confusing it needs someone to explain it
I have my own theory that the scientist who 'killed' herself is actually Priya. One thing I noticed is that the events of the movie are a palindrome. Sator falls in the body of water twice, protagonist fights himself twice, Kat visits the same vacation twice, the car chase scene happens twice, the plane crash happens twice. The only thing that we don't see happen twice is Priya and the scientist. And my theory is the same way the scientist dies in the future, she will die again when reversed which does happen at the end of the movie where protagonist kills her.
Many thing appen twice because, you see the "present" scene and then the "reverse" sene
Riccardo Modena That’s true but my point was they talk about the scientist’s death but we don’t actually see it. Yet somehow Priya knows a lot about the machine and at the end she dies regardless (loose end).
It seems the only way this could be at all possible is if Priya was lying about the invention being created so far into the future, I believe she said it was "generations" ahead. She was already probably at least mid 50's at the point we see her, surely you can only invert during the period of your own single lifetime.
Kevin W You’re right. But what makes me suspect that even more is that Priya lies in the movie so many times
If the scientist had anything to do with the making off the time machines, then Priya could not have done it. Because everything that happened in this movie, will just keep happening, like a loop. Because Kat said that she saw a woman diving from the boat. When she kills Sator at the end, she also jumps from the boat. When she jumps, the Kat from that time sees her. Priya said that it was a scientist in the future that made the object. Its stated in the movie that the timemachine technology came from the Future, and since this scientist lived generations later, it means that Priya would be dead at the time. So I dont believe it was Priya.
You did a better job than the actual movie of explaining the movie. I think this movie will struggle with reviews because it is just too effing confusing. 7/10
@Faizaan Naseem if only the dialogue was audibly understandable
Christian Pegrum that’s so true - I couldn’t hear half of the conversations for the first hour
This movie was so confusing that we need to watch a UA-cam video explaining what the heck we watched
bruh the even the yt video needs another explaining..
My brain is incapable of this level of space time.