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I was a C student. Barely finished college. I worked my butt off and achieved so much more than I could have predict based on my grades. Effort is all it takes. Relentless forward progress.
I tell my daughter this! She doesn't get the best grades but she's getting up and going everyday and that's what counts! I tell her all they need to see is effort and you'll make it! My son was the A student, he left school! I bet my daughter will do better in life
Perhaps this is overly simplified but it sounded to me like when rewarding a person's intelligence, you are rewarding their ego whereas when you are rewarding someone's effort you are speaking to their heart, soul, their being because you are nurturing (i.e. helping to generate) excitement within the individual's heart!
@@munihmuni8814 It can be acknowledged but it doesn’t need help bolstering and validating itself. The whole point of the video is shifting away from an identity-based mindset into something more action and effort based, which is like the exact opposite of nourishing an ego. If anything, the ego should be starved until it evaporates.
@williamladic6354 That is what I heard too. My other thought was that the methodology of the study could very easily have pushed toward these results. For example, if the intelligence praise group was praised only if they did well or praise was proportional to score, the ones that didn't do well but knew others were praised or praised higher where basically put down by omission which would certainly lead to worse performance in the future. However, if all students in the intelligence praise group were equally praised regardless of performance, you have effectively instructed students that the score doesn't matter as they are treated the same no matter how they do which again should lead to bad scores. Then you can throw in over-praising so that they overestimate their abilities and fail to question their info they believe true for fallacy, bias, or that they may have remembered wrong, which is another entire can of worms. Relying on one methodology exclusively is most certainly the wrong answer particularly when you apply it to all age groups. A more tailor approach would certainly be better, particularly for young age groups. I would also put forward that for 13-25 age groups, less focus should be put on praise and more inspiring students and also having them question if this is the level of performance that they are happy with and if they would be happy receiving this level of performance from others they rely upon.
@@nicothenatural Brilliant point. You've created more of a delineation to my description. Thank you. It did prompt me to ask myself...."Where does my level of intelligence come from?" Surely not from this grey mass of jello found housed in our skulls? Is intelligence also connected to the universe (or at least the aethers)?
I once read about this experiment where kids who are interested at doing something - say sketching, were divided into 2 groups and one group was getting a little star or some other symbol for their work. While the other group of students were just doing it for the sake of doing it. When the first group stopped getting the stars, they lost their motivation to learn and persist on sketching. The other group kept getting better because there was no extrinsic reward attached to what they were doing. Great video!
Being told I was smart, when I clearly had the capacity for stupidity, which I often demonstrated, made me question any sort of praise I got. It made me feel like I didn't actually deserve anything because if that was considered "smart," then I was doomed in life. I didn't lie to myself and see it as smart; I saw my efforts as deceptive ways to look "smart" because I was finding shortcuts and quicker ways to do things. Every cool thing I showed was always met with such superficial comments like, "I don't know or care what you're talking about, but I want to show I'm a supportive parent." Nothing really seemed to have any meaning. I couldn't see where my "intelligence" would ever manage to get me other than guilt. Once you realize that just appearing to be smart and skewing the results could get you the same praise, you lose any kind of direction.
Your comment really resonated with me as I feel I may have experienced a similar thing growing up. When I was younger/in scholl and I received praise, it felt undeserved because if I could achieve that then ANYONE could, and what's even more sad is that I often still feel the same way in my adult life when I receive praise for anything.. I'm not dumb but I have a proclivity for doing stupid things.. I'm not a genius but I maintain a skilled career where I have to constantly learn new tech etc, and have a diverse set of hobbies, some of which require high levels of discipline! Still I often feel like I'm "below the bar"...🙃
@adammcg5 same. I am an architecture student and my parents think I'm smart but I'm not. I'm not satisfied with my work especially when I failed to finish the last phase. I feel dumb because I am not confident enough with myself. it sucks u know
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I am a graphic design student, also intrested in psychology and as part of my bachelor's thesis I am creating a picture book for children about growth mindset. The title is "Frog on the Path". Using example of a frog traveling in the mountains, I will try to give children a perspective on how to approach mistakes and learning. Your channel and the work of Carol Dweck and Andrew Huberman inspired me in choosing this topic. Thank you for your content!
That´s a great idea. I don´t mean to tell you what to do but it would be great if you´d start the frog´s journey from a pond, where he´s still just an egg or a tadpole and portray how through his new found tools he is able to take on bigger challenges, say leaving the pong into the woods.
My dad did the opposite of both approaches. He beat the crap out of me while telling me I’m stupid and that I’ll be a failure for the rest of my life. He also told me he was disappointed in who I was and that he was giving up on me. He did this almost everyday. He would do it every time I did something wrong and often times for no reason.
In these actions of your Dad, how does this affect how you talk to yourself? I found, we mimic self talk by how others treated us when we are growing up.
My father insulted me too with much verbal abuse to the point that I internalized his words for me. There is a therapist here on UA-cam called Patrick Teahan and I watch his videos about childhood trauma to help with self talk and self esteem.
@@huhhuhhuh4069thats interesting. There was a study where a person with twins named one winner and the other loser. The one named loser was successful and winner was a drug addict. Look into the study, maybe some mental notes that could help you
@@benhc99For real. I got by on high intelligence but got progressively more and more lazy and went from straight As to Bs to Cs to failing out of college. My motivation bottomed out until now in my late 20s, long after feeling like I wasted every opportunity I had. I still wish I'd tried harder and given myself more options, but I have a wife and child who depend on me more than I had ever depended on myself. I still think of myself as a failure, but I'm showing myself progress that I never imagined that I was actually capable of maintaining. Slowly turning all my emotions and curiosities into writing to hopefully show my son that dreams can still be chased long after you thought that window was closed.
same here. the damage is a double whammy because theres high expectations but no acknowledgement of the effort involved. society loves to pick out flaws. there isnt enough praise and encouragement to go around. same with support for people like me who fail at life.
yeah, i was also growing up with the "smart" label. when i entered the university, i soon found out that it would be impossible to keep the former standard of being the best at everything. i was struggling with this discovery for a while but after some time it just settled down and i accepted it. lesson 1 learned :). lesson 2 was harder and was only learned years later in my job when i was lucky enough to be a part of a team with a great lead/mentor. this guy taught me not to be afraid of failing - everybody does, it's just part of the process. the important bit is to learn from it and (ideally) not to make the same mistake again. this took me perhaps a few years to fully absorb, but i feel much more relaxed now when approaching something, especially something unfamiliar or challenging. thinking about it after watching this video, it makes much more sense and i can understand better why it took me so long to learn these things - because i had always been praised for the RESULT instead of EFFORT... anyway, the point is: things can be changed. there's a little proverb in my native tongue that says it doesn't matter how many times you fall down, more important is how many times you get back up. don't give up! :)
As a kid growing up my parents use to tell me that I was stupid. When I asked for help with my homework. I reached to a point and said to myself "I'm not asking anyone for help anymore with my education. Whether I fail or pass." I'm a Mechanical Engineering Technician and it turns out my parents are the stupid ones, because they are ignorant and couldn't help me in the first place.
I had a similar experience growing up, stupidity and ignorance are very different, not knowing any better is being "ignorant" because you were never taught any better, (like your parents) and stupid is being shown time and time again without any progression, my parents were ignorant because they simply didn't know and I've learned to forgive them for that, I'm happy you over came that environment and found success against the odds, ✊️
Everyone is ignorant to a certain degree, because we could never know everything in the world. But if we don't know something just admit it and be willing to learn.
Life lessons hit hard these days... being in my late 50's... explains so many things along with just learning I have adhd... light bulb moments every DAY! 💡
i love this video because I had to teach myself “effort affirming”. This video brings me peace to know I didn’t go the wrong direction with my internal dialogue
One of the most interesting things to me is how, regardless of how well or poorly the students did in each of these tests, it is STILL POSSIBLE for the researchers (AKA “us”) to give the students ANY type of feedback. In other words, one student could perform “poorly” on something, and it does NOT mean our feedback to them has to be negative - in fact, it seems like that is the most important time for your feedback to be positive (and geared towards their effort, or course). I just think about all the negativity in the world and how we can all make the conscious decision to call out the positive traits in anyone we come across during the day. I also love how it is OUR decision - nobody can force us to give someone negative feedback, so we can make that choice every single day to be good to other people to help make other people better! Love this!
Every single person needs to know this! I feel like my eyes have been opened! Make sure you are doing your friends the favor of complimenting their efforts and not their identity.
Andrew Huberman's focus on effort-based feedback as a catalyst for performance is a game-changer. Emphasizing persistence over innate ability can transform a team's dynamics and drive innovation in any field. 💡
- 0:07🧠 Growth mindset emphasizes that abilities are malleable, not fixed. - 1:21🔍 Ask yourself questions about what you're good at, why, and how you label yourself. - 2:32📊 Research shows specific feedback shapes performance: intelligence praise vs. effort praise. - 4:00💡 Praising intelligence can actually undermine motivation and performance. - 5:49🎓 Children praised for effort tend to choose more challenging tasks, improving performance. - 7:28🔑 Effort-based praise is crucial for better performance and fostering resilience. - 10:42🚀 Effort praise leads to improved performance, while intelligence praise decreases it. - 13:07🕵♂ Children who receive intelligence praise tend to misrepresent their performance. - 15:29🧠 Feedback shapes beliefs about intelligence, impacting future performance. - 16:55🛠 Shift your narrative from performance to effort to improve abilities and mindset. - 17:34🎙 Explore more tools for mental health, physical health, and performance on the Huberman Lab podcast and social media.
In the intelligence vs effort feedback. Of course. What about adding more control groups. 1. Intelligence feedback 2. Effort feedback 3. Both intelligence and effort feedback. 4. Control group. 5. Group where you tell them the whole story. Anyone has potential for any level of intelligence but that potential being realized is largely determined by the following: - Level of effort one puts into learning. - Total time one has put into learning. - Proper reaction to failed attempts. - Proper selection of difficulty. One that is on the border or just outside the current level of intelligence. I always tell my kids they whole truth and have since they beginning. They both know what it takes and that being smart is not something they were born with, it is something they must choose and continue to choose their entire life and to be on alert and watch out and correct for the pitfalls that may hinder or even stop that progress. Perfectionism, where a single evaluation of less that perfect can result in a negative self evaluation resulting in less confidence, less effort, false attempts where they fail intentionally unconsciously to prove themselves right. The "I don't want" trap. The "I don't remember" trap. The "Its boring" trap. The "I'm tired" trap. And on and on. All those traps are lies we tell ourselves in an attempt justify the failed attempt. Instead try again with need of justification of the failure. Let the next attempt be an attempt with some modification. If they don't want too many failed attempts then spend some time watching others successful attempts and then copy them. This is why, given no physical limitation, all toddlers learn to walk. The don't have enough language skills and base knowledge to learn the traps in order to fail. they just see that everyone does it and hence know they will too. My daughter never fell. She decided to stand and no attempts to walk. After a couple days she decided to walk and walked all day without falling. She was done learning that and quickly moved on to where can I go and what can I find. My son fell all the time. He took the path of pure effort. Try, try, try until within a couple days success. Regarding representing performance: Upon attempt, whether success or failure, just ask them what can they do to make it a little better. What can they do to make it a not as good. What can they do to make it a lot better. How long do they think it will take them to make it a lot better. Provide hints and/or accurate examples of answers to those questions.
There is something to this, i have noticed this with the kids ive worked with, telling a kid that they are smart can accidentally form a selfimportant ego, often resulting in complacancy. But praising effort & persistance usually motivates them to put in their full effort (tho remind them to rest as it can lead workaholism)
I was told as an adult that gifted kids (like me) fall through the cracks at school because we SEEM like we have it together. So help/resources gets focused on kids who "need" it. Without guidance on our creative/ intelligence level, we get lost. But too, if we'd been taught emotional intelligence in gifted classes, we would've turned out differently. Because growth mindset IS emotional intelligence. One thing no one talks about: that it's a slap in the face and super disheartening when gifted kids become adults and no one cares how smart you are. Partially because it's an ego deflation. But moreso because that's when you find out - the only thing that makes you worthy is your ability to make money. You're used to feeling valuable because you're BEING smart. In "the real world" you have to DO smart. And that's pecisely because our world values and more highly rewards left brain/masculine "action." Though for me and many bright minds, we're more right brain/feminine "ideas" people. But that's a whole other story... PS: I started recommending Dr. Dweck's book Mindset almost a decade ago! It's phenomenal!
Best gift we can give our children is the knowledge that success/happiness are outcomes that each of us build/create for ourselves through planning, hard work, and perseverance.
Very valuable video, I wish my parents knew that. I heard so many times that I was "super smart but lazy". Today I'm good at nothing and I achieved nothing because I did not biuld any work ethics thinking that my "smartness" will take care of everything for me. Two things should be mentioned though. One: while effort is necessary to be successful, so is talent or some natural predisposition. Many people, especially losers obessesd with self-help, are lead to believe that "with hard work you can achieve anything". No. You can do it only if you're gifted AND work hard. And number two: about intelligence not being fixed. This point requires clarification. While one's intelligence is not fixed, their hypothetical maximum IQ undoubdfully is. With correct upbringing, learning and experiences you can get close to your genetic maximum, but no matter of learning or "effort feedback" will make you exceed it.
It’s of course true that there is a biological component you can not change no matter how hard you work and this is missing a little in the video. But somehow with your story I have the suspicion you write it because you’re still holding onto your talent even though it hasn’t brought you anywhere. I’m like that to by the way. Maybe one day there will be new techniques that improve the capabilities of the brain. It’s limiting to say you can never improve over a certain point.
As someone who grew up getting effort praise while my brother was “gifted and talented” in school and got intelligence praise. He ended up dropping out of college bc it got too hard and he didn’t wanna keep trying after he failed one of his classes for his major and I have never stopped learning thing and going to school and my family calls me the “jack of all trades” bc I cont. n cont. to keep learning stuff even if I fail the first time bc it’s the repetition n thrill to keep trying when getting told ‘ good job for trying’ everytime I grew up. So this was eye opening to siblings in the same house but getting different praise growing up in school n in home. Especially bc my brother is older so when I had his teachers they always thought we were the same but while I wasn’t stupid I had A’s n B’s in all classes n my brother had all A’s. His effort stopped after school , mine hasn’t.
This is so true. I see it this way in regards to my studies at university. I study medicine, meaning everyday should be a study day for me (or so they say), but I sometimes study a few hours a day sometimes an hour a day and then give myself praises such as “you’ve done enough”, “at least you studied” (even though during those study sessions I took several breaks, etc) and then I go on telling myself those things believing I’ve done enough and giving up in the process which affected my grades drastically in my first year of study. I definitely get where you’re coming from wow
I'm a huge fan of Dr. Dweck's research and book. It's great to hear it being embraced and shared by more and more people, especially professionals with a platform for reaching millions.
I can’t express enough how impactful this video has been for one of my clients. They’ve always been labeled as 'naturally gifted,' but as soon as they faced real challenges, they started to doubt themselves. Your breakdown of effort-based feedback versus intelligence-based feedback was an absolute revelation for them. They’re now learning to embrace the struggle and see effort as a positive force, rather than something that threatens their identity. This mindset shift is already opening up new possibilities in their personal and professional life. Thank you for sharing such transformative insights!
As someone with perfectionist tendencies, this video has been a revelation. I was in the 'smart child' category when I was in primary school. I then went on to struggle with any kind of setback or failure in my teens and young adult life. Telling a kid that they're special and they stand out from the crowd in someway can definitely lead to an egotistical and narcissistic mindset.
I can tell when my son takes his time on things for himself vs rushes for quick dopamine hits of good job.. I always point out his efforts vs the outcome… Even if you fail I can tell you tried your best and that matters more to me.. I swear it helps in the long run! Started typing this before you got into the topic fully and hearing you say the exact same thing let’s me know I’m on track!
I think we should follow the path for happiness and not for performance with our children and future generations. So one solution could be to tell the children how wonderful they are and what a wonderful personality they have, no matter what or how they do something. 🙏🌍🌈
It’s dangerous to use average on individuals. How somebody helps improve an individual is very specific to the individual and their needs. I know this from over 30 years experience of doing this professionally. The premise of the video is accurate, I’m warning of how this knowledge is applied 👍🏻
See 10:19 to 11,58: When praising yourself or other people, don't compliment intelligence, talent, identity, eg, ''you are smart, athletic, gifted''. Instead, do compliment EFFORT (verbs) eg, ''you tried really hard, it's great the way you applied so much effort and persisted''. Rewarding effort = better performance.
This is true, I grew up on identity praise and I couldn’t handle challenges or rejection because I took it as a measure of my worth. Caused a lot of trouble in all aspects of my life. I noticed when I want to stop bad habits or improve telling myself thank your for trying and taking account of all the little things I do during the day as still important, It makes it so much easier to do better for myself.
Running marathon is a good example how effort based praise transform us. Many of us just think of health or keep fit when we try to run. As we join classes/ make more friends and learn that it seems possible to run marathon, we make it and improve in time. 😊
I had the growth mindset when I was young because I had no parental oversight and learned early what it means having one life to live, after spending my childhood watching my one parent die a slow painful death from uncontrolled diabetes. I joined the Army, became a linguist so I could travel the world. And was pleasantly surprised that the world- outside my extended family and beyond the effects of impoverishment I grew up in- actually liked who I was! Then people were disappointed in me for being a “waste” because I paused my dreams to raise a child in a way where he wouldn’t have to go through the trauma I did. Now my son is grown, I’m successfully (and with an excessive amount of wisdom) resuming my path in my mid-40s. Life is good for everyone. And the more challenges the better, knowing I have less time left than I did 20 years ago! A lack of growth mindset, especially instilled by people other than yourself, is a tragedy. I hope the people who need to learn about growth mindset get exposed to the idea.
Yep, checks out. In the era where everybody gets a trophy, you get a bunch of whiners. I don't think I ever got a kind word from my parents about anything I did. I always assume I'm the dumbest guy in the room, and am disappointed when I'm not because there is less to learn. Much of what I can do today is a result of proving my parents or other critics wrong. Not saying that made me a mentally healthy adult, but it did make me a productive one, and somebody that doesn't shy away from hard conversations and problems. I like tackling things I'm not sure I can do at all - its the surest way to grow my skills and actually feel good about it when I make it through.
As a supervisor, each and every time (which was often), I praised my reports for their efforts they would sit back and kick their feet up afterward, and their performance tanked until I had to get ugly.
Im definitely working on changing my belief system. Today, I am a BHT 2 community counselor. Constantly working on myself because it's essential , vital & important. Drugs, alcohol homelessness were the results of my life experiences.. The symptom of what was going on internally.
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This makes sense. Ive gotten a lot of praise when i was younger for how smart i was. From parents or from teachers. They told me i was super talented and artisitc too when i liked to draw or played an instrument. Whenever i say something stupid or mess up, or if i mess up on a drawing in my opinion, or can't automatically be talented at something, i feel absolutely horrible about myself. So in terms of putting effort in something i actually wanna improve on i cant because i start hating myself for the fact i can't do something and it completely kills any motivation for me to even try...
I think you touched upon a lot of important factors for growth, especially the problem of being identified with being smart with a certain thing. It is so amazing how there are infinite things to be smart at, and true intelligence expands across all dimensions.
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Excellent, thought provoking advice. Really brings to light the need for taking ones own growth into their own hands. Valuing what we now choose to value, over what we were told to value. Worth starts within!
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Thanks for this man! I actually made a self-affirmation journal before this where I label myself as smart and such lol. Good thing I watched this. It’s true that praising effort is more helpful than labeling ourselves or anyone with words.
I have frequently been told that I am a talented and amazing piano player. But it’s always rubbed me the wrong way. I’ve been playing for 12 years now and have put countless hours of work into piano, I have praised myself not exclusively for the accomplishments I have attained but for the dedication and hard work that I was able to pull myself to do. I think this disconnect between talent and effort can be very serious but also very freeing when you open yourself up to pursuing effort more than talent.
I was considered a slow kid at school. So the feedback I got was pretty much rewarding my effort over the end result. Now that I'm an adult I am working in pretty cerebral research based work. However a main weakness I now have is never giving up. Even when it would probably be better if I did. I once spent years working towards something, only to get close enough to realise I was so driven to succeed it wasn't what I wanted anymore. I definitely had to spend time learning that working hard is not working smart. My solution to everything was run at the wall until the wall caved. Definitely a bad habit I picked up from my formative years based on feedback rewarding effort.
I read Carol's book years ago and raised my daughter with a growth mindset. She seeks difficult subjects and tasks running towards challenges rather than from them now. There have been studies conducted with college students and professional sports teams as well. Everyone regardless of age can benefit from this information.
I agree with your premise of your argument. I had a conversation with one faculty member who continuously awards As for all students no matter their intelligence or effort and uses your argument to prove awarding 100% to all motivates the students to do better. My definition of excellent means “extremely good; outstanding”-that the work is virtually error-free and is nearly perfectly aligned with my expectations as the instructor. Students should not expect to easily earn A’s but understand that they have to strive for them. To earn A’s, students should complete coursework as assigned, wrestle with the material, ask questions, and apply all feedback on assignments through critical thinking and problem-solving. In my opinion, it’s unethical to give unearned grades.
Exactly! This "talent" stuff is like saying "it doesn't matter where you're going, only where you are now. You can't change and your choices had nothing to do with your skills!" It's strangely antisocial and clearly a lie. But a child can fall for it, as the experiment demonstrated, which makes it really insidious.
As a "DOES NOT MEET POTENTIAL" kid I almost started seeing that as an award and how I would describe that feeling today now that I am more mature but I can also see now how much it hindered me and how much trepidation it gave me to actually try at something in fear of failing. To even add to these I am: (un)fortunate to also be able to learn things very quickly, (frustatingly) good at getting something done at a high level at the very last minute(college papers from idea to final draft in 4 hours at 2am type stuff), I have a particular penchant for being able to observe someone's movements and body when performing an athletic ability of some form so that even when I first try it it seems like I have a lot of practice(this is the worst because if it is anything that requires technique I fail at it immediately and never want to pursue it due to that sense of failure or inability). Think football, baseball, kayaking, type things compared to golf, tennis, basketball(though this one I enjoyed a lot so a lot of practice, likely due to being good enough through athleticism alone to continue pursuit). I am currently going through a self journey to try and fix these things but I will tell you at 34 essentially pissing away my last 10ish is making it very tough.
How i wish my parents, teachers praised my effort. This research is true for my case. I got praised intellectually. As it goes on in high school I intentionally dropped my score and tried to blend in with others. I got demotivated wanted to be average. I also tried to avoid hard challenges and lied some occasions. Well i will try to improve myself and be an educated parent for my future children.
Sincerely, thank you for sharing this information. It is incredibly helpful for a new parent. I want to do my best to foster my child’s learning and happiness.
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My and my lady are going to try to start a family soon and I am telling you these videos are changing the world. Thank you so much for all your effort and hardwork 😉
Great advice. I recall reading how native cultures tend to use more verbs than nouns. On the other side, alzheimers has been noted where language changes to using more nouns than verbs. It's almost like the "motion center" part of the brain is where intelligence came from- the need to survive and move. Effort appreciated gives you a boost for the next run!
Lets be careful with this also… when youre labelled as hardworking, resilient and persistent, we have to carefully counterbalance that with the importance of rest, to having emotional maturity of knowing what truly matters to you, and set boundaries and expectations. I am both the “intelligent” and “hardworking” child, and being in a good university before, my peers were also similar- and the sea of degenerating mental health is so overwhelming it can really fck you up short to long term. Im proud of what I achieved, but it’s important to keep that ego and people pleasing aspect in check
Yeah it's the dopamine reward system which gets overloaded everyday. Effort gets replaced with pride. The prize is normally the effort you put in but becomes replaced with constant praise that you expect to receive. When you don't receive the praise anymore naturally you will not want to do it anymore. The mind really goes deep
As I find myself navigating through fatherhood to an awesome 3 year old boy, I couldn't help but give him intelligence praise as a form of positive affirmations. After watching this, I'll have to start praising his grit. Awesome video! Side note: Would it hurt to give a child both intelligence and effort praise?
@@dIvYaa487 All identities are made of qualities but not all qualities define an identity. For example being rich is just a quality while caring about wealth is part of an identity.
Because if you encourage good traits that are within their control and teach them to always find solutions you make them very responsible adults, not only that imagine a society of honest problem solvers that are always willing to constantly try their best despite the rewards(being humble) we would quantum Leap into a better future
Anecdote: I was linguistically gifted early on so it was super obvious I was gifted as a child. I floundered a lot in my 20's, unfortunately. My boyfriend is gifted with logic and strategy, but not great with words. It wasn't very obvious he was gifted and only cared about seeming smart when it was tied to an award: get A's and B's and you'll get [award]. Then he would put in effort. He spent his 20's building a career and it has paid off with a lot of financial success, especially considering he came from poverty. I noticed, in his brilliant way of thinking, he never once called me smart, but has told me many times he's proud of how hard I work while returning to school. He confirmed he does that on purpose, and it worked. The praise he gave is the praise I wanted to rise to. I'm a 3-time drop finally on track to get my degree.
My problem is that I am so "gifted" that school was never even remotely challenging to me. Not even in university. So I never had to learn to overcome challenges, ergo never learned to overcome my own limitations. Hence I am a classic, "great at school, not at life" type. The real world expects you to seek challenges and apply yourself to them, like say getting a job. That's alien to me. But I am working hard to change that. To become growth-oriented, not fixed.
I wonder which of these would lead to greater overall contentment in life. The video focused on performance, but as someone who has learned at age 36 that "good enough" brings much more peace than "always try harder to improve" or "keep challenging yourself.” I believe that most people eventually come to this understanding, but sometimes way later in life. For those who are always striving to do more, they might only learn to slow down and enjoy what they have achieved at age 70 or 80.
I just had this conversation. Teaching people to own themselves is the only way to help keep Littles safe. Own yourself or someone else Will. History does repeat itself and neither does slime mold 😂 History cannot repeat itself only people can. You got this.
If you fail, never give up because F.A.I.L. means First Attempt In Learning End is not the end. In fact E.N.D. means Effort Never Dies If you get no as an answer, remember N.O. means Next Opportunity Change your mindset!
Who is the artist? The visual content is phenomenal. Thanks for tapping into the fact that many of us are visual learners. The study is very true. I have witnessed this over a span of 20 years in middle and high school classrooms.
This is so true. I always received intelligence praise as a kid and what I would do is if I made a bad grade I wouldn’t want to take it home. I’d hide it til the end. Receiving that praise also made me lazy to a degree because I would only take on tasks that were easy and I knew I could succeed at so I would tell myself I’m bad at math so I wouldn’t do math but I’m good at English so let’s do English.
I'd say this is the way to teach our pups how to fulfill their true potential. No matter what rank they have in the hierarchy, they must receive effort feedback!
I was often undermined.... so now I'm often shocked when people praise my work. It's hard to believe because I'm so used to being torn down.... I often don't even appraise my own work and when I do? I often feel it's subpar compared to others' work.
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You guys have taught me more than high school and college ever did.
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This sounds like a paper I read about Free Will
Hmmm?
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I was a C student. Barely finished college. I worked my butt off and achieved so much more than I could have predict based on my grades. Effort is all it takes. Relentless forward progress.
I tell my daughter this! She doesn't get the best grades but she's getting up and going everyday and that's what counts! I tell her all they need to see is effort and you'll make it! My son was the A student, he left school! I bet my daughter will do better in life
the quality most necessary to achieve one's goals is neither intelligence nor talent but PERSEVERANCE.
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Perhaps this is overly simplified but it sounded to me like when rewarding a person's intelligence, you are rewarding their ego whereas when you are rewarding someone's effort you are speaking to their heart, soul, their being because you are nurturing (i.e. helping to generate) excitement within the individual's heart!
But the ego does need to be nourished in a healthy way
@@munihmuni8814 It can be acknowledged but it doesn’t need help bolstering and validating itself. The whole point of the video is shifting away from an identity-based mindset into something more action and effort based, which is like the exact opposite of nourishing an ego. If anything, the ego should be starved until it evaporates.
@williamladic6354 That is what I heard too.
My other thought was that the methodology of the study could very easily have pushed toward these results. For example, if the intelligence praise group was praised only if they did well or praise was proportional to score, the ones that didn't do well but knew others were praised or praised higher where basically put down by omission which would certainly lead to worse performance in the future. However, if all students in the intelligence praise group were equally praised regardless of performance, you have effectively instructed students that the score doesn't matter as they are treated the same no matter how they do which again should lead to bad scores. Then you can throw in over-praising so that they overestimate their abilities and fail to question their info they believe true for fallacy, bias, or that they may have remembered wrong, which is another entire can of worms.
Relying on one methodology exclusively is most certainly the wrong answer particularly when you apply it to all age groups. A more tailor approach would certainly be better, particularly for young age groups. I would also put forward that for 13-25 age groups, less focus should be put on praise and more inspiring students and also having them question if this is the level of performance that they are happy with and if they would be happy receiving this level of performance from others they rely upon.
Conflating ego and intelligence is an error to me. Intellect, maybe. Intelligence? No.
@@nicothenatural Brilliant point. You've created more of a delineation to my description. Thank you. It did prompt me to ask myself...."Where does my level of intelligence come from?" Surely not from this grey mass of jello found housed in our skulls? Is intelligence also connected to the universe (or at least the aethers)?
I once read about this experiment where kids who are interested at doing something - say sketching, were divided into 2 groups and one group was getting a little star or some other symbol for their work. While the other group of students were just doing it for the sake of doing it. When the first group stopped getting the stars, they lost their motivation to learn and persist on sketching. The other group kept getting better because there was no extrinsic reward attached to what they were doing.
Great video!
Source?
@@Natef321 im pretty sure it was a ted talk about motivation I think I have seen what their talking about
@@nickevangelou5862 I'd be interested to see that.
@@Natef321 It was described in Anna Lembke’s book “Dopamine Nation”
Makes you think a LOT about grading systems ...
Being told I was smart, when I clearly had the capacity for stupidity, which I often demonstrated, made me question any sort of praise I got. It made me feel like I didn't actually deserve anything because if that was considered "smart," then I was doomed in life. I didn't lie to myself and see it as smart; I saw my efforts as deceptive ways to look "smart" because I was finding shortcuts and quicker ways to do things. Every cool thing I showed was always met with such superficial comments like, "I don't know or care what you're talking about, but I want to show I'm a supportive parent." Nothing really seemed to have any meaning. I couldn't see where my "intelligence" would ever manage to get me other than guilt. Once you realize that just appearing to be smart and skewing the results could get you the same praise, you lose any kind of direction.
Your comment really resonated with me as I feel I may have experienced a similar thing growing up.
When I was younger/in scholl and I received praise, it felt undeserved because if I could achieve that then ANYONE could, and what's even more sad is that I often still feel the same way in my adult life when I receive praise for anything..
I'm not dumb but I have a proclivity for doing stupid things..
I'm not a genius but I maintain a skilled career where I have to constantly learn new tech etc, and have a diverse set of hobbies, some of which require high levels of discipline! Still I often feel like I'm "below the bar"...🙃
I feel you
@adammcg5 same. I am an architecture student and my parents think I'm smart but I'm not. I'm not satisfied with my work especially when I failed to finish the last phase. I feel dumb because I am not confident enough with myself. it sucks u know
This comment is such an impressive level of self awareness.
Wowwww as a former “gifted kid” this video was the missing piece to my trauma puzzle. 😩😭🤯
Same heree
Hello After Skool, I wanted to take a moment and praise you for your hard work and effort in putting together an exceptional video that will affect both my self talk and my parenting feedback!
haha thank you for praising my effort. Now I'm motivated to do more!
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I am a graphic design student, also intrested in psychology and as part of my bachelor's thesis I am creating a picture book for children about growth mindset. The title is "Frog on the Path". Using example of a frog traveling in the mountains, I will try to give children a perspective on how to approach mistakes and learning. Your channel and the work of Carol Dweck and Andrew Huberman inspired me in choosing this topic. Thank you for your content!
That´s a great idea. I don´t mean to tell you what to do but it would be great if you´d start the frog´s journey from a pond, where he´s still just an egg or a tadpole and portray how through his new found tools he is able to take on bigger challenges, say leaving the pong into the woods.
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My dad did the opposite of both approaches. He beat the crap out of me while telling me I’m stupid and that I’ll be a failure for the rest of my life. He also told me he was disappointed in who I was and that he was giving up on me. He did this almost everyday. He would do it every time I did something wrong and often times for no reason.
In these actions of your Dad, how does this affect how you talk to yourself? I found, we mimic self talk by how others treated us when we are growing up.
@@MariahLMazey my mind is programmed to think I am dumb, useless, and will never succeed. It takes constant effort to fight against it.
My father insulted me too with much verbal abuse to the point that I internalized his words for me. There is a therapist here on UA-cam called Patrick Teahan and I watch his videos about childhood trauma to help with self talk and self esteem.
@@huhhuhhuh4069thats interesting. There was a study where a person with twins named one winner and the other loser. The one named loser was successful and winner was a drug addict. Look into the study, maybe some mental notes that could help you
Wow, this tells me how I was in the Intelligence Praise group during my childhood and how I went from "promising future" to failed adult.
There should also be inverted commas on "failed adult". Don't give up now!
@@benhc99For real. I got by on high intelligence but got progressively more and more lazy and went from straight As to Bs to Cs to failing out of college. My motivation bottomed out until now in my late 20s, long after feeling like I wasted every opportunity I had. I still wish I'd tried harder and given myself more options, but I have a wife and child who depend on me more than I had ever depended on myself. I still think of myself as a failure, but I'm showing myself progress that I never imagined that I was actually capable of maintaining. Slowly turning all my emotions and curiosities into writing to hopefully show my son that dreams can still be chased long after you thought that window was closed.
Same, I did so well at school, but now I'm almost 38 and feel like I have nothing to show for all that "intelligence"
same here. the damage is a double whammy because theres high expectations but no acknowledgement of the effort involved. society loves to pick out flaws. there isnt enough praise and encouragement to go around. same with support for people like me who fail at life.
yeah, i was also growing up with the "smart" label. when i entered the university, i soon found out that it would be impossible to keep the former standard of being the best at everything. i was struggling with this discovery for a while but after some time it just settled down and i accepted it. lesson 1 learned :).
lesson 2 was harder and was only learned years later in my job when i was lucky enough to be a part of a team with a great lead/mentor. this guy taught me not to be afraid of failing - everybody does, it's just part of the process. the important bit is to learn from it and (ideally) not to make the same mistake again.
this took me perhaps a few years to fully absorb, but i feel much more relaxed now when approaching something, especially something unfamiliar or challenging.
thinking about it after watching this video, it makes much more sense and i can understand better why it took me so long to learn these things - because i had always been praised for the RESULT instead of EFFORT...
anyway, the point is: things can be changed. there's a little proverb in my native tongue that says it doesn't matter how many times you fall down, more important is how many times you get back up. don't give up! :)
As a kid growing up my parents use to tell me that I was stupid. When I asked for help with my homework. I reached to a point and said to myself "I'm not asking anyone for help anymore with my education. Whether I fail or pass." I'm a Mechanical Engineering Technician and it turns out my parents are the stupid ones, because they are ignorant and couldn't help me in the first place.
I had a similar experience growing up, stupidity and ignorance are very different, not knowing any better is being "ignorant" because you were never taught any better, (like your parents) and stupid is being shown time and time again without any progression, my parents were ignorant because they simply didn't know and I've learned to forgive them for that, I'm happy you over came that environment and found success against the odds, ✊️
Everyone is ignorant to a certain degree, because we could never know everything in the world. But if we don't know something just admit it and be willing to learn.
Wow. I am 60 now and can see clearly where I was heaped praise and I followed this pattern into adulthood.
Life lessons hit hard these days... being in my late 50's... explains so many things along with just learning I have adhd... light bulb moments every DAY! 💡
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i love this video because I had to teach myself “effort affirming”. This video brings me peace to know I didn’t go the wrong direction with my internal dialogue
“Do what’s good for all, not what’s best for me” has been my narrative throughout life, on the challenging path to enlightenment… 😊🙏🏼💗✨
Well said Marylin! I hope you’re having a good walk on the path.
Thank you Jean, I am grateful for the opportunity! Sending you some love and light direct from New Zealand…💗✨
One of the most interesting things to me is how, regardless of how well or poorly the students did in each of these tests, it is STILL POSSIBLE for the researchers (AKA “us”) to give the students ANY type of feedback. In other words, one student could perform “poorly” on something, and it does NOT mean our feedback to them has to be negative - in fact, it seems like that is the most important time for your feedback to be positive (and geared towards their effort, or course). I just think about all the negativity in the world and how we can all make the conscious decision to call out the positive traits in anyone we come across during the day. I also love how it is OUR decision - nobody can force us to give someone negative feedback, so we can make that choice every single day to be good to other people to help make other people better! Love this!
Every single person needs to know this! I feel like my eyes have been opened! Make sure you are doing your friends the favor of complimenting their efforts and not their identity.
This isn't new science, but I'm glad that it's finally getting spread to the masses.
Huberman, you're the man! 😎🔥
Andrew Huberman's focus on effort-based feedback as a catalyst for performance is a game-changer. Emphasizing persistence over innate ability can transform a team's dynamics and drive innovation in any field. 💡
- 0:07🧠 Growth mindset emphasizes that abilities are malleable, not fixed.
- 1:21🔍 Ask yourself questions about what you're good at, why, and how you label yourself.
- 2:32📊 Research shows specific feedback shapes performance: intelligence praise vs. effort praise.
- 4:00💡 Praising intelligence can actually undermine motivation and performance.
- 5:49🎓 Children praised for effort tend to choose more challenging tasks, improving performance.
- 7:28🔑 Effort-based praise is crucial for better performance and fostering resilience.
- 10:42🚀 Effort praise leads to improved performance, while intelligence praise decreases it.
- 13:07🕵♂ Children who receive intelligence praise tend to misrepresent their performance.
- 15:29🧠 Feedback shapes beliefs about intelligence, impacting future performance.
- 16:55🛠 Shift your narrative from performance to effort to improve abilities and mindset.
- 17:34🎙 Explore more tools for mental health, physical health, and performance on the Huberman Lab podcast and social media.
Thank you for the breakdown
In the intelligence vs effort feedback. Of course.
What about adding more control groups.
1. Intelligence feedback
2. Effort feedback
3. Both intelligence and effort feedback.
4. Control group.
5. Group where you tell them the whole story. Anyone has potential for any level of intelligence but that potential being realized is largely determined by the following:
- Level of effort one puts into learning.
- Total time one has put into learning.
- Proper reaction to failed attempts.
- Proper selection of difficulty. One that is on the border or just outside the current level of intelligence.
I always tell my kids they whole truth and have since they beginning. They both know what it takes and that being smart is not something they were born with, it is something they must choose and continue to choose their entire life and to be on alert and watch out and correct for the pitfalls that may hinder or even stop that progress. Perfectionism, where a single evaluation of less that perfect can result in a negative self evaluation resulting in less confidence, less effort, false attempts where they fail intentionally unconsciously to prove themselves right. The "I don't want" trap. The "I don't remember" trap. The "Its boring" trap. The "I'm tired" trap. And on and on. All those traps are lies we tell ourselves in an attempt justify the failed attempt. Instead try again with need of justification of the failure. Let the next attempt be an attempt with some modification. If they don't want too many failed attempts then spend some time watching others successful attempts and then copy them. This is why, given no physical limitation, all toddlers learn to walk. The don't have enough language skills and base knowledge to learn the traps in order to fail. they just see that everyone does it and hence know they will too. My daughter never fell. She decided to stand and no attempts to walk. After a couple days she decided to walk and walked all day without falling. She was done learning that and quickly moved on to where can I go and what can I find. My son fell all the time. He took the path of pure effort. Try, try, try until within a couple days success.
Regarding representing performance: Upon attempt, whether success or failure, just ask them what can they do to make it a little better. What can they do to make it a not as good. What can they do to make it a lot better. How long do they think it will take them to make it a lot better. Provide hints and/or accurate examples of answers to those questions.
There is something to this, i have noticed this with the kids ive worked with,
telling a kid that they are smart can accidentally form a selfimportant ego, often resulting in complacancy.
But praising effort & persistance usually motivates them to put in their full effort (tho remind them to rest as it can lead workaholism)
I was told as an adult that gifted kids (like me) fall through the cracks at school because we SEEM like we have it together. So help/resources gets focused on kids who "need" it. Without guidance on our creative/ intelligence level, we get lost.
But too, if we'd been taught emotional intelligence in gifted classes, we would've turned out differently. Because growth mindset IS emotional intelligence.
One thing no one talks about: that it's a slap in the face and super disheartening when gifted kids become adults and no one cares how smart you are. Partially because it's an ego deflation. But moreso because that's when you find out - the only thing that makes you worthy is your ability to make money. You're used to feeling valuable because you're BEING smart. In "the real world" you have to DO smart.
And that's pecisely because our world values and more highly rewards left brain/masculine "action." Though for me and many bright minds, we're more right brain/feminine "ideas" people. But that's a whole other story...
PS: I started recommending Dr. Dweck's book Mindset almost a decade ago! It's phenomenal!
Just as important is to do this very thing to ourselves as we are often our biggest critic. Externally and internally.
Best gift we can give our children is the knowledge that success/happiness are outcomes that each of us build/create for ourselves through planning, hard work, and perseverance.
One of my favorite topics talked about from Andrew and I haven't even begun to watch the video. This was an immediate click
It was after skool that actually introduced me to Andrew with the morning routine video I think
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Very valuable video, I wish my parents knew that. I heard so many times that I was "super smart but lazy". Today I'm good at nothing and I achieved nothing because I did not biuld any work ethics thinking that my "smartness" will take care of everything for me. Two things should be mentioned though. One: while effort is necessary to be successful, so is talent or some natural predisposition. Many people, especially losers obessesd with self-help, are lead to believe that "with hard work you can achieve anything". No. You can do it only if you're gifted AND work hard. And number two: about intelligence not being fixed. This point requires clarification. While one's intelligence is not fixed, their hypothetical maximum IQ undoubdfully is. With correct upbringing, learning and experiences you can get close to your genetic maximum, but no matter of learning or "effort feedback" will make you exceed it.
It’s of course true that there is a biological component you can not change no matter how hard you work and this is missing a little in the video.
But somehow with your story I have the suspicion you write it because you’re still holding onto your talent even though it hasn’t brought you anywhere. I’m like that to by the way.
Maybe one day there will be new techniques that improve the capabilities of the brain. It’s limiting to say you can never improve over a certain point.
As someone who grew up getting effort praise while my brother was “gifted and talented” in school and got intelligence praise. He ended up dropping out of college bc it got too hard and he didn’t wanna keep trying after he failed one of his classes for his major and I have never stopped learning thing and going to school and my family calls me the “jack of all trades” bc I cont. n cont. to keep learning stuff even if I fail the first time bc it’s the repetition n thrill to keep trying when getting told ‘ good job for trying’ everytime I grew up. So this was eye opening to siblings in the same house but getting different praise growing up in school n in home. Especially bc my brother is older so when I had his teachers they always thought we were the same but while I wasn’t stupid I had A’s n B’s in all classes n my brother had all A’s. His effort stopped after school , mine hasn’t.
Writing a diary of gratitude saved my life. Typing out what I appreciate about the negative with the positive healed me from depression.
This is so true. I see it this way in regards to my studies at university. I study medicine, meaning everyday should be a study day for me (or so they say), but I sometimes study a few hours a day sometimes an hour a day and then give myself praises such as “you’ve done enough”, “at least you studied” (even though during those study sessions I took several breaks, etc) and then I go on telling myself those things believing I’ve done enough and giving up in the process which affected my grades drastically in my first year of study. I definitely get where you’re coming from wow
I'm a huge fan of Dr. Dweck's research and book. It's great to hear it being embraced and shared by more and more people, especially professionals with a platform for reaching millions.
I can’t express enough how impactful this video has been for one of my clients. They’ve always been labeled as 'naturally gifted,' but as soon as they faced real challenges, they started to doubt themselves. Your breakdown of effort-based feedback versus intelligence-based feedback was an absolute revelation for them. They’re now learning to embrace the struggle and see effort as a positive force, rather than something that threatens their identity. This mindset shift is already opening up new possibilities in their personal and professional life. Thank you for sharing such transformative insights!
As someone with perfectionist tendencies, this video has been a revelation. I was in the 'smart child' category when I was in primary school. I then went on to struggle with any kind of setback or failure in my teens and young adult life. Telling a kid that they're special and they stand out from the crowd in someway can definitely lead to an egotistical and narcissistic mindset.
I can tell when my son takes his time on things for himself vs rushes for quick dopamine hits of good job.. I always point out his efforts vs the outcome… Even if you fail I can tell you tried your best and that matters more to me.. I swear it helps in the long run!
Started typing this before you got into the topic fully and hearing you say the exact same thing let’s me know I’m on track!
Beautiful children deserve nurturing in a loving environment taught about importance of nature and learning how to coexist in perfect harmony.
Chat GBT comment?
I think we should follow the path for happiness and not for performance with our children and future generations. So one solution could be to tell the children how wonderful they are and what a wonderful personality they have, no matter what or how they do something. 🙏🌍🌈
Hahahahaha
I love this facetious comment!
It’s dangerous to use average on individuals. How somebody helps improve an individual is very specific to the individual and their needs. I know this from over 30 years experience of doing this professionally. The premise of the video is accurate, I’m warning of how this knowledge is applied 👍🏻
I never really cared what I was good at or bad at. I simply focused on what I wanted to do.
See 10:19 to 11,58: When praising yourself or other people, don't compliment intelligence, talent, identity, eg, ''you are smart, athletic, gifted''.
Instead, do compliment EFFORT (verbs) eg, ''you tried really hard, it's great the way you applied so much effort and persisted''. Rewarding effort = better performance.
This is true, I grew up on identity praise and I couldn’t handle challenges or rejection because I took it as a measure of my worth. Caused a lot of trouble in all aspects of my life. I noticed when I want to stop bad habits or improve telling myself thank your for trying and taking account of all the little things I do during the day as still important, It makes it so much easier to do better for myself.
“Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard”
I agree mostly ! 👏🏾 You need both, but ;
Hard-Work : 85%
Luck : 5%
Talent : 10%
So basically, Yes! Unless you work 24/7, you will fail ! ❤❤
Running marathon is a good example how effort based praise transform us. Many of us just think of health or keep fit when we try to run. As we join classes/ make more friends and learn that it seems possible to run marathon, we make it and improve in time. 😊
I had the growth mindset when I was young because I had no parental oversight and learned early what it means having one life to live, after spending my childhood watching my one parent die a slow painful death from uncontrolled diabetes.
I joined the Army, became a linguist so I could travel the world. And was pleasantly surprised that the world- outside my extended family and beyond the effects of impoverishment I grew up in- actually liked who I was!
Then people were disappointed in me for being a “waste” because I paused my dreams to raise a child in a way where he wouldn’t have to go through the trauma I did.
Now my son is grown, I’m successfully (and with an excessive amount of wisdom) resuming my path in my mid-40s. Life is good for everyone. And the more challenges the better, knowing I have less time left than I did 20 years ago!
A lack of growth mindset, especially instilled by people other than yourself, is a tragedy. I hope the people who need to learn about growth mindset get exposed to the idea.
Nice, how self-reflection, meditation, is a key component to growth mindset.
Of course, makes sense. Nobody can be a winner all the time, but everyone can put in their best effort all the time...
Yep, checks out. In the era where everybody gets a trophy, you get a bunch of whiners. I don't think I ever got a kind word from my parents about anything I did. I always assume I'm the dumbest guy in the room, and am disappointed when I'm not because there is less to learn. Much of what I can do today is a result of proving my parents or other critics wrong. Not saying that made me a mentally healthy adult, but it did make me a productive one, and somebody that doesn't shy away from hard conversations and problems. I like tackling things I'm not sure I can do at all - its the surest way to grow my skills and actually feel good about it when I make it through.
In the growth mindset mindset think of feedback as seeds. Be very mindful of what is planted in your fertile mind
Having a 16 month old, i am watching this flourish in real time
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As a supervisor, each and every time (which was often), I praised my reports for their efforts they would sit back and kick their feet up afterward, and their performance tanked until I had to get ugly.
Im definitely working on changing my belief system. Today, I am a BHT 2 community counselor. Constantly working on myself because it's essential , vital & important. Drugs, alcohol homelessness were the results of my life experiences.. The symptom of what was going on internally.
It would not be off the mark to say that your After Skool shorts have delighted me for years!!
Then a few months ago, I found myself in a deep, dark depression that I NEEDED to get out of!!
Aaaand the beauty of your shorts, are that they can be used used as a means to the ends of HEALING
For this, I want to thank you ❤️ I want to THANK YOU!! Your purpose in life has helped me regain mine - and many others I can assume
1. Feedback based on effort is detailed
2. Effort improvement is the best way to grow
I will be beginning my career as an elementary school counselor this Fall. I want to go all in on the growth mindset with my students!
This makes sense. Ive gotten a lot of praise when i was younger for how smart i was. From parents or from teachers. They told me i was super talented and artisitc too when i liked to draw or played an instrument.
Whenever i say something stupid or mess up, or if i mess up on a drawing in my opinion, or can't automatically be talented at something, i feel absolutely horrible about myself.
So in terms of putting effort in something i actually wanna improve on i cant because i start hating myself for the fact i can't do something and it completely kills any motivation for me to even try...
I think you touched upon a lot of important factors for growth, especially the problem of being identified with being smart with a certain thing. It is so amazing how there are infinite things to be smart at, and true intelligence expands across all dimensions.
Great video. And I'm so happy to see you collaborating with Huberman again. Awesome job, nice to see a global takeover with actual good people behind it.
Yes, Professor Huberman ... Thank you!
Andrew huberman podcast should be mandatory for teachers
Excellent, thought provoking advice. Really brings to light the need for taking ones own growth into their own hands. Valuing what we now choose to value, over what we were told to value. Worth starts within!
In every interaction, every deed,
We plant the seeds that all can heed,
Of love and kindness, empathy’s call,
To uplift and nurture, to embrace all.
In classrooms and communities, let us teach,
The power of love within our reach,
In every lesson, every story told,
Let love's wisdom gently unfold.
In workplaces and boardrooms, let us lead,
With hearts of compassion, we shall succeed,
In every decision, every plan we make,
Let love guide us, for humanity’s sake.
In homes and families, let us show,
The depth of love that all can know,
In every hug, in every smile,
Let love be our guiding style.
For seeds of love, when sown with care,
Can blossom forth, beyond compare,
In every heart, in every land,
Love’s healing touch can take a stand.
So let us share and let us teach,
The power of love within our reach,
For in its embrace, we all can find,
A world of peace, for humankind.
Beautiful 🙏🏻❤️🔥❤️
Thank you ❤ ❤
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Thanks for this man! I actually made a self-affirmation journal before this where I label myself as smart and such lol. Good thing I watched this. It’s true that praising effort is more helpful than labeling ourselves or anyone with words.
I have frequently been told that I am a talented and amazing piano player. But it’s always rubbed me the wrong way. I’ve been playing for 12 years now and have put countless hours of work into piano, I have praised myself not exclusively for the accomplishments I have attained but for the dedication and hard work that I was able to pull myself to do. I think this disconnect between talent and effort can be very serious but also very freeing when you open yourself up to pursuing effort more than talent.
I was considered a slow kid at school. So the feedback I got was pretty much rewarding my effort over the end result. Now that I'm an adult I am working in pretty cerebral research based work. However a main weakness I now have is never giving up. Even when it would probably be better if I did. I once spent years working towards something, only to get close enough to realise I was so driven to succeed it wasn't what I wanted anymore. I definitely had to spend time learning that working hard is not working smart. My solution to everything was run at the wall until the wall caved. Definitely a bad habit I picked up from my formative years based on feedback rewarding effort.
I read Carol's book years ago and raised my daughter with a growth mindset. She seeks difficult subjects and tasks running towards challenges rather than from them now. There have been studies conducted with college students and professional sports teams as well. Everyone regardless of age can benefit from this information.
So glad I learned this before having kids.
I agree with your premise of your argument. I had a conversation with one faculty member who continuously awards As for all students no matter their intelligence or effort and uses your argument to prove awarding 100% to all motivates the students to do better. My definition of excellent means “extremely good; outstanding”-that the work is virtually error-free and is nearly perfectly aligned with my expectations as the instructor. Students should not expect to easily earn A’s but understand that they have to strive for them. To earn A’s, students should complete coursework as assigned, wrestle with the material, ask questions, and apply all feedback on assignments through critical thinking and problem-solving. In my opinion, it’s unethical to give unearned grades.
Exactly! This "talent" stuff is like saying "it doesn't matter where you're going, only where you are now. You can't change and your choices had nothing to do with your skills!"
It's strangely antisocial and clearly a lie. But a child can fall for it, as the experiment demonstrated, which makes it really insidious.
As a "DOES NOT MEET POTENTIAL" kid I almost started seeing that as an award and how I would describe that feeling today now that I am more mature but I can also see now how much it hindered me and how much trepidation it gave me to actually try at something in fear of failing.
To even add to these I am:
(un)fortunate to also be able to learn things very quickly,
(frustatingly) good at getting something done at a high level at the very last minute(college papers from idea to final draft in 4 hours at 2am type stuff),
I have a particular penchant for being able to observe someone's movements and body when performing an athletic ability of some form so that even when I first try it it seems like I have a lot of practice(this is the worst because if it is anything that requires technique I fail at it immediately and never want to pursue it due to that sense of failure or inability). Think football, baseball, kayaking, type things compared to golf, tennis, basketball(though this one I enjoyed a lot so a lot of practice, likely due to being good enough through athleticism alone to continue pursuit).
I am currently going through a self journey to try and fix these things but I will tell you at 34 essentially pissing away my last 10ish is making it very tough.
I made this comment toward the beginning of the video and man I almost hate how much the video further reinforced my musings lol
Then straight up attacked at the end about misrepresenting measured performance but it is so true...
How i wish my parents, teachers praised my effort. This research is true for my case. I got praised intellectually. As it goes on in high school I intentionally dropped my score and tried to blend in with others. I got demotivated wanted to be average. I also tried to avoid hard challenges and lied some occasions. Well i will try to improve myself and be an educated parent for my future children.
Absolutely brilliant. Love this. Big thanks and much love to all behind this.
Sincerely, thank you for sharing this information. It is incredibly helpful for a new parent. I want to do my best to foster my child’s learning and happiness.
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This should be a must listen for new parents !!
My and my lady are going to try to start a family soon and I am telling you these videos are changing the world. Thank you so much for all your effort and hardwork 😉
Warm wishes on your journey to grow your family. That’s beautiful 🙏💚
Great advice. I recall reading how native cultures tend to use more verbs than nouns. On the other side, alzheimers has been noted where language changes to using more nouns than verbs. It's almost like the "motion center" part of the brain is where intelligence came from- the need to survive and move. Effort appreciated gives you a boost for the next run!
thanks for the ongoing effort you continue putting into the content and art
Lets be careful with this also… when youre labelled as hardworking, resilient and persistent, we have to carefully counterbalance that with the importance of rest, to having emotional maturity of knowing what truly matters to you, and set boundaries and expectations. I am both the “intelligent” and “hardworking” child, and being in a good university before, my peers were also similar- and the sea of degenerating mental health is so overwhelming it can really fck you up short to long term. Im proud of what I achieved, but it’s important to keep that ego and people pleasing aspect in check
Yeah it's the dopamine reward system which gets overloaded everyday. Effort gets replaced with pride. The prize is normally the effort you put in but becomes replaced with constant praise that you expect to receive. When you don't receive the praise anymore naturally you will not want to do it anymore. The mind really goes deep
Can't thank you enough for the positive impact you had on my prespective thank you both much love and appreciation
Never ever, ever, ever, ever give up.
Excellent video, thank you. I really like the distinction you’ve pointed out here over praising the effort rather than the actual outcome.
As I find myself navigating through fatherhood to an awesome 3 year old boy, I couldn't help but give him intelligence praise as a form of positive affirmations. After watching this, I'll have to start praising his grit. Awesome video!
Side note: Would it hurt to give a child both intelligence and effort praise?
everyone should see this
Perfect to share with staff before we kick off the school year 💎
It makes no sense to praise or criticise people for things outside of their control and doing so confuses children's qualities with their identity
I don't get it, can you explain?
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@@dIvYaa487 All identities are made of qualities but not all qualities define an identity. For example being rich is just a quality while caring about wealth is part of an identity.
Because if you encourage good traits that are within their control and teach them to always find solutions you make them very responsible adults, not only that imagine a society of honest problem solvers that are always willing to constantly try their best despite the rewards(being humble) we would quantum Leap into a better future
@user-qi7xx5ih6z being rich is the result of different qualities
Continual learning is key to be happy with yourself from the inside.
Anecdote: I was linguistically gifted early on so it was super obvious I was gifted as a child. I floundered a lot in my 20's, unfortunately. My boyfriend is gifted with logic and strategy, but not great with words. It wasn't very obvious he was gifted and only cared about seeming smart when it was tied to an award: get A's and B's and you'll get [award]. Then he would put in effort. He spent his 20's building a career and it has paid off with a lot of financial success, especially considering he came from poverty. I noticed, in his brilliant way of thinking, he never once called me smart, but has told me many times he's proud of how hard I work while returning to school. He confirmed he does that on purpose, and it worked. The praise he gave is the praise I wanted to rise to. I'm a 3-time drop finally on track to get my degree.
THANK YOU !!!! I have gotten so much from your work here!!!
Every educator must see this video! The effort put into preparing it is much appreciated. I wonder if that 1998 study was developed further!
Awesome format and really helpful video for me, father of two children.
Thank you very much for your efforts on popularisation of science knowledge!
My problem is that I am so "gifted" that school was never even remotely challenging to me. Not even in university. So I never had to learn to overcome challenges, ergo never learned to overcome my own limitations. Hence I am a classic, "great at school, not at life" type. The real world expects you to seek challenges and apply yourself to them, like say getting a job. That's alien to me. But I am working hard to change that. To become growth-oriented, not fixed.
I wonder which of these would lead to greater overall contentment in life. The video focused on performance, but as someone who has learned at age 36 that "good enough" brings much more peace than "always try harder to improve" or "keep challenging yourself.” I believe that most people eventually come to this understanding, but sometimes way later in life. For those who are always striving to do more, they might only learn to slow down and enjoy what they have achieved at age 70 or 80.
Nice, I watched you full version of this. I try it with my nephews.
I just had this conversation. Teaching people to own themselves is the only way to help keep Littles safe. Own yourself or someone else Will.
History does repeat itself and neither does slime mold 😂
History cannot repeat itself only people can. You got this.
If you fail, never give up because F.A.I.L. means
First Attempt In Learning
End is not the end. In fact E.N.D. means
Effort Never Dies
If you get no as an answer, remember N.O. means
Next Opportunity
Change your mindset!
Wow
Awesome
I will send it to my teenager kid
Thanks
Love this
Wunderbar! Thx for this comment. 👍👍👍
I like that :)
@@spinnetti it’s so good so I decided to post this on Facebook 👍♥️
I’m curious about the lasting effects of the recent (and often shallow) “You’re so brave” trend of praise. “Hero” as well
Who is the artist? The visual content is phenomenal. Thanks for tapping into the fact that many of us are visual learners. The study is very true. I have witnessed this over a span of 20 years in middle and high school classrooms.
THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH!!! This is very helpful to give to parents I work with
This is so true. I always received intelligence praise as a kid and what I would do is if I made a bad grade I wouldn’t want to take it home. I’d hide it til the end. Receiving that praise also made me lazy to a degree because I would only take on tasks that were easy and I knew I could succeed at so I would tell myself I’m bad at math so I wouldn’t do math but I’m good at English so let’s do English.
I'd say this is the way to teach our pups how to fulfill their true potential. No matter what rank they have in the hierarchy, they must receive effort feedback!
I was often undermined.... so now I'm often shocked when people praise my work. It's hard to believe because I'm so used to being torn down.... I often don't even appraise my own work and when I do? I often feel it's subpar compared to others' work.