6:42 Fun Fact: the order in gogeta gets the dragon balls with his move is scripted to be always the same (2>5>6>7>4>3>1), and this order is not random, this is the order in that the evil dragons were defeated in Dragon Ball GT.
SSJ4 Gogeta is contractually obligated to be a broken monster in every game appearance. The pre-Super Top Dog. I'm actually surprised he doesn't have a kick that can reflect level 3s
That contract must have been ripped into a million pieces for xenoverse 1 and 2 then, because he sucks in those games. Honestly, I’m glad fighterz gave him back his title as strongest character in any game he appears in. It reminds me of the old ps2 dbz games. Even though it makes online annoying as hell, I can’t give less of a shit about that. Honestly, I think he deserves his OP status. I hope whatever game comes after this keeps it up, and doesn’t take after xenoverse’s version of him.
this is funny because after having 2 slightly above average cards his most recent card in the mobile game dokkan battle breaks the game balance's spine over his knee then beats it to death with a baseball bat.
Not to mention that his grab looks like a beam attack and i know that I’ve been conditioned to wither block or reflect and punish the beam. So it catches me almost everytime
6:05 If I had a dollar for every time a DBFZ Video genuinely scared me, I'd have one dollar. Nailed the fusions on their heads. If there's one thing I do love about them, it's that they're so cool. Despite the fact they're everywhere, I never get tired of seeing their supers and sauce. A good player running a fusion is always scary, yet exhilarating. Except Gogeta SSJ4. Then I'm just scared.
thats what i love about fusions personally, its not just the fact they are powerful, but how cool they are, they will beat your ass, and look cool doing it
8:38 seeing the super while skipping the cutscenes is so hilarious to me idk why. Maybe because he kicks or punched you then just randomly busts out OVERCOMPENSATING SWIRL LASER OF DEATH SQUARED on your ass
Okay but can we give props to the recent care MoldyBagel has put into the sound design of his videos? The syncs with the music, the original bass parts to complement some of his explanation, and ofc the stellar music choice. It's really adds to the enjoyment of the videos!
So THIS is why I've been largely unable to escape fusions and/or UI recently. I've been saying SSJ4 had every card in the deck since the start but everyone else was on copium or something saying "Nah he's p average, ur mad cuz bad" MAN OH MAN was this one a doozy. Love how you transitioned between different acts of sweet mountain, I wouldn't have known they were separate tracks if I didn't listen to them regularly myself (planet wisp next???). It seems like every time I notice something wack during my time on DBFZ, a MoldyBagel video comes out on it in about a month to explain it to me. 9.8/10, 0.2 points lost for giving me flashbacks to all the fusion monkeys I dealt with the other day
When ss4 gogeta first came out, people didn't know his true potential yet. Wasn't until people started playing him with a new mindset, and a few minor buffs that pushed him over the edge. The DragonBalls are still useless, but that level 7 is much more powerful than people were making it out to be. It's so hard to punish finish sign on reaction cause it's so fast, and a lot of times can get you smoked by his light speed normals. Finish sign is an extremely powerful pressure tool in every way. 236H is a "fuck neutral" move, 214MH is just hard to react to cause all of a sudden there's a spinning monke in the air after whatever standing Normals, a command grab that has such a smooth animation it easily catches people off guard. He doesn't stop a bit to do the grab sequence, he just goes into it with the same pace as all of his other moves. On paper, he doesn't seem all that insane, but he has the ability of psychological warfare. Basically UI with more mix.
I have been seeing Z Broly a lot too, but he's less trouble due to the fact that he's g i a n t. I also forgot to mention the fact that these characters, in my opinion, just aren't fun to play against. Nothing new, nothing interesting, nothing in the brain except monkey_noise.mp4.
Say what you want about Gogeta Blue, I stuck with the man from day 1 because he was so dang fun to play. Glad he’s got more tools but pretty much everyone plays him or gets called a try hard for doing so nowadays. Odd that my most played characters are from the first piece of Dragon Ball media I ever consumed (DBS: Broly)
Just started watching but the fusions we're the first ever bits of DLC I decided to get when I first got this game. I wasn't really good at it but I basically use these videos as like my cliff notes on how to not suck, so yay I finally can jump back to Blue Gogeta.👍
Excellent music choice. The transition between Sweet Mountain Act 1 and 3 was stellar, and I loved how you edited the beginning part of the Combo Tag section to have the loud guitar section come in after that bass solo you added to Act 2 at just the right time. Really well done. Great video man, keep it up! 👍
Thank you for making this. I'm honestly starting to get sick of fighting the fusions, particularly Vegito and SSJ4 Gogeta. When I recover in the air only to be immediately hit by an auto combo, it makes me want to refund the game. Even with Ultra Instinct, I at least got used to him and know how to fight him now. The fusions? Nope. Just pray they don't hit you with one of their million options.
@@MoldyBagel For me I mained Blue Gogeta before he was good so it makes me annoyed that now everyone is spamming Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Blue Vegito and giving Blue Gogeta a bad rap. My team at the end of Season 3 was Blue Gogeta Super Saiyan Vegeta and DBS Broly and I'm both annoyed that the fusions are becoming Meta and slightly satisfied.
@@Zeromaru42 My main team S3 was A18 A Gogeta Blue B Trunks B and yeah I feel the same way. I actually ended up dropping Gogeta for 21 this season just because he's so common now.
I've been playing Vegito for most of the game's lifespan. I really like all three fusion characters, they all have the coolest and flashiest moves. So I like to change between the three a lot, they're all just so fun to play
I was an OG blue gogeta main bc he had the most swag in dbfz + he has the coolest super in DBFZ warms my heart to see my boy make it after being in the gutter for like 2 years
i know right? Now I can play him again, only I look trash if I play all the characters I actually wanna play :(( Ah well, I still love Teenhan and Janemba. Eventually I'll make some good 4geta teams or a vegito team
Hes the more braindead one imo, he can be saucy in mixups and combos but he is a bit of an easy mode Bogeta when I play him has a lot more interesting tech and sauce that people don't know
That jazz filler you added in was so good! I've been listening to the Sonic Colors soundtrack for years and thought there was some official alternate arrangement of the track I'd never heard before.
The fusions clearly got Goku's strength (I mean, look at all the Gokus in this game, _especially a certain white haired monkey man_ ) and Vegeta's banter
Another fantastic/entertaining video from ya my dude. Always manage to outdo the last one. Btw, seeing your point @8:17 to 8:35, made me really wish you could do a vid that breaks down the "combo rules" and what makes damage scaling "tick". I have a rough idea more so now a days from the scrambled vids I've seen and wiki entries I've read here and there. But still having a rough time putting it together in a practical sense to apply it when trying to figure new optimal stuff. You have a knack of presenting this sort of "nitty gritty" stuff for the "layman" pretty well But regardless if you do or not, still eagerly await your next top notch vid my dude!!!
damn i was hoping that part conveyed it well enough shit. basically rule of thumb is the easier it is to hit someone with a move, the less damage the combo will deal. there's not much of a point going deeper than that as you can mostly infer for yourself what will be the highest and lowest damage starters.
@@MoldyBagel hmm...on further thought, yeah I see whatchu mean haha. Guess at this point for me I just really gotta bunker down and build up that "intuition" for myself. But that segment i pointed out in the vid is super eye opening and valuable to me regardless. Nice new "rule of thumb" I can keep the back of my head when approaching this game now. So thanks again my dude!!!
Scaling is hard to calculate when you're just trying to figure out how to get an extra 50 damage just to be as optimal as possible. For example, there's a Roshi combo that gives you 2 opportunities to use 6s, but using it twice does less damage than not doing it at all, using it at the second chance gives you a bit more damage, but only using it at the first gives you the most damage. So far I haven't seen any explanation of how to calculate scaling, so until then I'm just gonna be labbing looking for the optimals.
The Fusion Meta, it’s weirdly beautiful. Also, it’s a small detail, but I appreciate that you altered Vegito Blue slightly to have Shintani’s SSJB coloring in the intro.
Yeah ironically enough Gogeta 4 is just the biggest middle finger to UI Goku and most of the other Goku's in general. Though I think Base and Super Saiyan Goku with maybe Goku Black are among the best counters for him, then the other fusions show up and make it even harder. Goku Black mainly gets around Gogeta 4s and Vegito's shit to an extent. Instant Transmission combined with God Slicer and a good beam makes him go from the worst all-around character to among the best just by his patches. Unfortunately he needs a great deal more skill to use effectively whereas Vegito can just mash and open you up a lot of the time just by using 3 moves.
The editing, detail, memes, clips, everything within this video is amazing and I love it. Always great to watch these videos, besides learning more things about the game ive played for 4 years it gives me new combo and blockstring ideas with each video.
I always enjoyed Gogeta Blue and Vegito. They're my 2 favorite to play. I just throw in the Monke to complete the theme and for bar. Also thanks for the vid it was great.
Dude what the hell is your editing. Like it's actually astonishing how insanely talented you are at this. I'm so glad your a part of this community, keep up the good work.
I actually only like the fusion dance but I still respect the Vegito enjoyers Hopefully one day we can have a team of all SS4, thats what ive wanted to have since GT Goku came out
i would be really happy if they added SS4 Xeno Vegito from DBH, his design fucks, maybe also give him a moveset with supers based off DBZ Kakarot because Vegito in that game is top tier
I loved the fusions as a lore concept and now that the graphics and mechanics for him have come…I didn’t wast time to main this team. Though I play with Gotenks and blue fusions.
Hour 1 team reporting in Even though I've been playing this game for years Moldy always manages to teach me something new every video Thanks for the insight bro
I have never and likely will never play this game, but these videos and your insight into the mechanics behind characters are utterly fascinating. I can't stop watching them.
I liked that this was fair, recognizing the fusions are strong without saying they are broken And it explains WHY they have become/are good by highlighting the things that make you a strong character in the game Usually the convo about them devolves in to complaining, and people complain about fusions because 1) They are part of the current competitive meta 2) They are popular, leading to them being played a lot 3) Anytime anything is good in this game, people meme it to death and complain about it I just hope it doesn't turn into a GT Goku situation or a Bardock situation, where they start getting the nerf hammer while other strong characters are mostly left alone, because I don't think any of them are as good as those characters peaks (And personally I would probably put Z Broly, 21, and maybe Base Geta above them rn even, except for SSJ4 Gogeta)
I really liked how you fluid slid your sponsor in at the start of the video, basing it off the topic of the video. Very professional and consumer friendly. Made me wanna buy express VPN 👏👏
Why is no one talking about the thumbnail? It looks great! Ive been watching for a while and I just wanna say that I love your content and that you don’t have to overwork yourself as I can tell this takes a lot of time. That aside I enjoyed this video and look forward to future videos!
Your editing and explanations are some of the most enjoyable and entertaining aspects of your videos. I actually learn more about the game even stuff I was never even aware of because of your videos.
SS4 Gogeta being such an almost-joke-character monstrosity in every game might not be accurate anymore with the god forms around, but I kinda love it. A great running gag, I think they should keep it that way.
There aren't 3 Goku - Vegeta fusions, just two. Gogeta Blue even has some of SS4's moves, but that didn't stop the dlc... Both blues are a lot of fun with their unique mechanics, but when playing with friends Gogeta Red is typically off-limits. Finding out he had even more ways to abuse his power is terrifying - though it is worth mentioning his super can scale below an instant kill with tags involved. Small victories.
yeah i suppose the way i worded it you could argue there's 2 or 4 forms total if you include ssj gogeta. i guess i was referring more to the reuse and rehashing of one idea. either way yeah it's kinda an error
People say Gogeta Blue has some of SS4 Gogeta’s moves, but in reality it is only the Big Bang Kamehameha. All his specials are different, his level 1 is unique (and if we want to count the level 7 since it behaves very differently then go ahead but I’ll understand if you don’t), and I’m pretty sure his normals are different. Even his reflect is different. In DBS: Broly, Blue didn’t have any party poppers, a blink that hurts the opponent, or a counter he stands still and it’s revealed that he hit you 14 times.
@@theomnigamer9177 You seem to be confused. What happened isn't that they grew to share moves, but that Gogeta Blue was given moves from all Gogetas. For example, the weird grab is from SS Gogeta, and the "Find the real one!" thing appears to be derived from SS4's fight with Omega Shenron, before the party poppers.
I love the small but deliberate detail that old gogeta was fighting janimba, and new gogeta is fighting sbroly, your care about every detail surely pays off and makes fantastic videos
I feel like a video on Ginyu, who is basically the most "standard" character in the game with two unique gimmicks, stood for a while. I dont think anyome would say he's bad because his moves are bad, hes just hard to make work in this current environment. That ki blast scaling rou brought up coild be a major reason SSJ Vegeta dropped so low too...
Great video btw, just wanted to give you credit for that sweet jazz bass solo. Sweet mountain act 2 is one of my favourite sonic tracks and i have never recalled hearing that solo before from the many years of reloading this track. Here i thought there was another alternate version or a most likely a remix but it was implemented so smoothly that it sounded official. You are very talented not just in your editing skills but musically aswell. Looking forward to more content from you.
I played this game for 2 hrs total 2 years ago, haven't touched it since. Found your channel 1.5 years ago. These videos are INSANELY well done! I will watch every single one of them.
He was disappointing in Legends.... until they gave him equipment that let him solo teams. One of my favorites is in a BT3 lp where he's described as "punching at the speed of murder and excels at making the game not fun"
For some reason it's looks really funny to me when ssj4 Gogeta just do his level 7 without showing Goku or Vegita, like it's all happening too fast lol
Love your editing style and how well you explain the game to people. Along with plenty of good jokes and visual gags sprinkled in all along the way!
my girlfriend had an oral gag january 10th around 4am
HES HERE
Do you know what software he uses to edit?
Collab when lol
Is that the dunker himself?
6:42 Fun Fact: the order in gogeta gets the dragon balls with his move is scripted to be always the same (2>5>6>7>4>3>1), and this order is not random, this is the order in that the evil dragons were defeated in Dragon Ball GT.
ayy trivia
yo the lore!?
Gogeta lore
Cappin lemme see myself
GogeTa gameplay: Hee hee balls monke
GogeTa lore:
At this rate it feels like it is SSJ4 Gogeta's contractual obligation to completely shatter the balance of almost every game he touches.
Because 100x Big Bang Kahmehameha go brr I guess.
Toriyama personally oversees that. It's in the license of every contract lol
And we love him for it
*He really is Vergil...*
@@SifsBestFriend lmaooo
SSJ4 Gogeta is contractually obligated to be a broken monster in every game appearance. The pre-Super Top Dog. I'm actually surprised he doesn't have a kick that can reflect level 3s
That contract must have been ripped into a million pieces for xenoverse 1 and 2 then, because he sucks in those games.
Honestly, I’m glad fighterz gave him back his title as strongest character in any game he appears in. It reminds me of the old ps2 dbz games.
Even though it makes online annoying as hell, I can’t give less of a shit about that. Honestly, I think he deserves his OP status.
I hope whatever game comes after this keeps it up, and doesn’t take after xenoverse’s version of him.
Him and Kid Buu are always good characters whatever game they are in.
@@LoganV3535 Xenoverse meta'd him out through Neverending updates.
this is funny because after having 2 slightly above average cards his most recent card in the mobile game dokkan battle breaks the game balance's spine over his knee then beats it to death with a baseball bat.
@@AJaydedArtist Int SS4 Gogeta was a top tier TUR (1-4) on release
I can see why people would want to play Fusions. They are, in the anime, the most powerful characters.
yep fan favorites
Yep
But, I have nothing
DLC😭😭😭😭😭
Vegito is my favorite fusion character and has been ever since that buu fight.
@@kaioii5910 May I offer you a Gotenks in these trying times?
@@MoldyBagel how would you feel about a super buu :D
9:17
"Whats going on?!"
"You're going straight to hell."
Bro i cant handle that. That's too perfectly timed
Aye that's actually awesome
"What's going on?!"
"You're going straight to hell."
*_"What's going o-"_*
@@biglion3179 My man was straight lost in the matrix
@@miguelmendoza9552 the simulation couldn’t process the n because that man took an L
lmao
Not to mention that his grab looks like a beam attack and i know that I’ve been conditioned to wither block or reflect and punish the beam. So it catches me almost everytime
This is the thing that I swear people don’t talk about enough.
Every grab looks like a grab.
This man’s looks like a goddamn Kamehameha.
Black also has a grab kame but at least his grab Is slow and its easy to see zamasu behind you
@@Fabio-vo2er and it has the most obvious sound cue in the world
@@doncinati7644 I swear zamasu makes it so fucking easy to read
@@m0002856 So he's doing something right then.
I remember before his release, I somehow thought SSJ4 Gogeta's taunt costed meter and therefore was balanced.
Then I learned it _gave_ meter.
and as an assist it gives EVEN MORE METRE THAN THAT
@@HappyMasroor okay but the video literally demonstrates how much you can get away with taunting
@@HappyMasroor 8:52, 9:07
see there's a slight problem. you can just taunt while assists are playing out, even if it's like level 2 or 3 it's still good damage
@@HappyMasroor
It happened in a pro match 😂
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9:18 "WHAT'S GOING ON!?"
"You're going straight to HELL"
*LOVE* how that synced up.
"WHAT'S GOING O-"
*Goes Straight to hell *
6:05 If I had a dollar for every time a DBFZ Video genuinely scared me, I'd have one dollar.
Nailed the fusions on their heads. If there's one thing I do love about them, it's that they're so cool. Despite the fact they're everywhere, I never get tired of seeing their supers and sauce. A good player running a fusion is always scary, yet exhilarating.
Except Gogeta SSJ4. Then I'm just scared.
Ssj4 gogeta.exe has been created, now watch it become a FNF mod
thats what i love about fusions personally, its not just the fact they are powerful, but how cool they are, they will beat your ass, and look cool doing it
BRUH THAT IS SOME SONIC PC PORT SHIT
SSJ4 gogeta.exe
Bruh, have you seen the Zamasu-video?
8:38 seeing the super while skipping the cutscenes is so hilarious to me idk why.
Maybe because he kicks or punched you then just randomly busts out
OVERCOMPENSATING SWIRL LASER OF DEATH SQUARED on your ass
Okay but can we give props to the recent care MoldyBagel has put into the sound design of his videos? The syncs with the music, the original bass parts to complement some of his explanation, and ofc the stellar music choice. It's really adds to the enjoyment of the videos!
it's probably the most important pary to me honestly
@@MoldyBagel As a content creator myself, I've been slowly realizing how important sound actually is and your videos are amazing examples of that
Npc comment
@@loliconenjoyer9770kinda new to the humor
can you explain what this means
This video was actually hilarious, especially the part where your showing how SSJ4 can just kill off any hit 😂
it's wack yo
But your st-
@@MoldyBagel Kefla RN;🤡
You're
@@ThatMFLeroy You'll be fine. Only 5 Fusions exist and Zamasu's one of them.
The way the Sweet Mountain just descends into chaos after you go into SSJ4 Gogeta is beautiful.
So THIS is why I've been largely unable to escape fusions and/or UI recently. I've been saying SSJ4 had every card in the deck since the start but everyone else was on copium or something saying "Nah he's p average, ur mad cuz bad"
MAN OH MAN was this one a doozy. Love how you transitioned between different acts of sweet mountain, I wouldn't have known they were separate tracks if I didn't listen to them regularly myself (planet wisp next???). It seems like every time I notice something wack during my time on DBFZ, a MoldyBagel video comes out on it in about a month to explain it to me. 9.8/10, 0.2 points lost for giving me flashbacks to all the fusion monkeys I dealt with the other day
Z Broly Too
When ss4 gogeta first came out, people didn't know his true potential yet. Wasn't until people started playing him with a new mindset, and a few minor buffs that pushed him over the edge. The DragonBalls are still useless, but that level 7 is much more powerful than people were making it out to be. It's so hard to punish finish sign on reaction cause it's so fast, and a lot of times can get you smoked by his light speed normals. Finish sign is an extremely powerful pressure tool in every way.
236H is a "fuck neutral" move, 214MH is just hard to react to cause all of a sudden there's a spinning monke in the air after whatever standing Normals, a command grab that has such a smooth animation it easily catches people off guard. He doesn't stop a bit to do the grab sequence, he just goes into it with the same pace as all of his other moves. On paper, he doesn't seem all that insane, but he has the ability of psychological warfare. Basically UI with more mix.
I have been seeing Z Broly a lot too, but he's less trouble due to the fact that he's g i a n t. I also forgot to mention the fact that these characters, in my opinion, just aren't fun to play against. Nothing new, nothing interesting, nothing in the brain except monkey_noise.mp4.
Planet wisp will be on namek videos
and super sonic and shadow for dbfz
Same bro 🤣
Say what you want about Gogeta Blue, I stuck with the man from day 1 because he was so dang fun to play. Glad he’s got more tools but pretty much everyone plays him or gets called a try hard for doing so nowadays.
Odd that my most played characters are from the first piece of Dragon Ball media I ever consumed (DBS: Broly)
Tbh dbs broly is probably the best piece of dragonball media ever produced in my opinion
Damn, you're probably not older than 10 if your first DB media was DBS Broly.
@@anonymouspokemon4623 Or maybe he just didn't watch Dragonball. Stop being a dingus.
@@anonymouspokemon4623 What is that logic?
@@MoldyBagel ok what about dragon ball super: superhero
4:39 I think Majin Vegeta is still around in those fusions
7:39 I love how he said “Whole character” so nobody would think about Golden Frieza
That is like 1/2 of whole
Just started watching but the fusions we're the first ever bits of DLC I decided to get when I first got this game. I wasn't really good at it but I basically use these videos as like my cliff notes on how to not suck, so yay I finally can jump back to Blue Gogeta.👍
let's get it brother
How to play Gogeta 4 and Vegito in 30 seconds:
Surprise! You never actually have to learn how to play them.
its funny because gogeta blue was quite horrible when he first came out. well at least me as a noob didn't feel like i was getting much out of him.
Excellent music choice.
The transition between Sweet Mountain Act 1 and 3 was stellar, and I loved how you edited the beginning part of the Combo Tag section to have the loud guitar section come in after that bass solo you added to Act 2 at just the right time. Really well done.
Great video man, keep it up! 👍
Thank you for making this. I'm honestly starting to get sick of fighting the fusions, particularly Vegito and SSJ4 Gogeta. When I recover in the air only to be immediately hit by an auto combo, it makes me want to refund the game. Even with Ultra Instinct, I at least got used to him and know how to fight him now. The fusions? Nope. Just pray they don't hit you with one of their million options.
yeah they're pretty irritating especially online
Is hard find a opponent who don't have the 3 fusions in the same team xd
@@MoldyBagel For me I mained Blue Gogeta before he was good so it makes me annoyed that now everyone is spamming Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Blue Vegito and giving Blue Gogeta a bad rap. My team at the end of Season 3 was Blue Gogeta Super Saiyan Vegeta and DBS Broly and I'm both annoyed that the fusions are becoming Meta and slightly satisfied.
@@Zeromaru42 My main team S3 was A18 A Gogeta Blue B Trunks B and yeah I feel the same way. I actually ended up dropping Gogeta for 21 this season just because he's so common now.
@@MoldyBagel They are annoying cuz they are everywhere, even more popular than U.I Goku
I've been playing Vegito for most of the game's lifespan. I really like all three fusion characters, they all have the coolest and flashiest moves. So I like to change between the three a lot, they're all just so fun to play
just say u have no skill n like playing on easy mode
I was an OG blue gogeta main bc he had the most swag in dbfz + he has the coolest super in DBFZ
warms my heart to see my boy make it after being in the gutter for like 2 years
i know right? Now I can play him again, only I look trash if I play all the characters I actually wanna play :((
Ah well, I still love Teenhan and Janemba. Eventually I'll make some good 4geta teams or a vegito team
vegito and gogeta blue are corny as hell. they take no skill whatsoever
@@egoishim gogeta blue is actually hella cool, Vegito is the braindead one. When the two are played in tandem you know what's up.
Id argue ssj4 gogeta has more swag
Hes the more braindead one imo, he can be saucy in mixups and combos but he is a bit of an easy mode
Bogeta when I play him has a lot more interesting tech and sauce that people don't know
That jazz filler you added in was so good! I've been listening to the Sonic Colors soundtrack for years and thought there was some official alternate arrangement of the track I'd never heard before.
The fusions clearly got Goku's strength (I mean, look at all the Gokus in this game, _especially a certain white haired monkey man_ ) and Vegeta's banter
> Seamless transition at 3:37
> Incredible editing
Honestly, your content feels magical.
:)
4:55
Gogeta Blues hair was still Blue
This means he was STILL ALIVE
Ofc all his nerves were nonexistant but still
lmao
He now has the power of calcium
@@DaKingKayden fr
7:53 this dude is using dante's royal guard fly in a fighting game, this is impressive
Another fantastic/entertaining video from ya my dude. Always manage to outdo the last one.
Btw, seeing your point @8:17 to 8:35, made me really wish you could do a vid that breaks down the "combo rules" and what makes damage scaling "tick". I have a rough idea more so now a days from the scrambled vids I've seen and wiki entries I've read here and there. But still having a rough time putting it together in a practical sense to apply it when trying to figure new optimal stuff. You have a knack of presenting this sort of "nitty gritty" stuff for the "layman" pretty well
But regardless if you do or not, still eagerly await your next top notch vid my dude!!!
damn i was hoping that part conveyed it well enough shit. basically rule of thumb is the easier it is to hit someone with a move, the less damage the combo will deal. there's not much of a point going deeper than that as you can mostly infer for yourself what will be the highest and lowest damage starters.
@@MoldyBagel hmm...on further thought, yeah I see whatchu mean haha. Guess at this point for me I just really gotta bunker down and build up that "intuition" for myself. But that segment i pointed out in the vid is super eye opening and valuable to me regardless. Nice new "rule of thumb" I can keep the back of my head when approaching this game now. So thanks again my dude!!!
@@shman5000o if I had to pick a general rule, I’d just say people always point out “medium starters” for a reason
Scaling is hard to calculate when you're just trying to figure out how to get an extra 50 damage just to be as optimal as possible. For example, there's a Roshi combo that gives you 2 opportunities to use 6s, but using it twice does less damage than not doing it at all, using it at the second chance gives you a bit more damage, but only using it at the first gives you the most damage. So far I haven't seen any explanation of how to calculate scaling, so until then I'm just gonna be labbing looking for the optimals.
0:56 as an italian i must say this is 3x better than our dub
Honestly my favorite thing about the fusions are the supers, definitely some of my favorite in the game, especially Gogeta blue
The Fusion Meta, it’s weirdly beautiful. Also, it’s a small detail, but I appreciate that you altered Vegito Blue slightly to have Shintani’s SSJB coloring in the intro.
the fusion team had its synergy improved due to the new tag system, that make them very strong
Man, you are by far my favorite dbfz content creator, constant high quality content. amazing thank you for the vids
:)
I think they show more love towards fusions than goku's in general
yeah man they bring in the big money
I wonder if they will put the new characters from dragon ball super super hero in fighterz like they did with Broly and gogeta
Yeah ironically enough Gogeta 4 is just the biggest middle finger to UI Goku and most of the other Goku's in general. Though I think Base and Super Saiyan Goku with maybe Goku Black are among the best counters for him, then the other fusions show up and make it even harder. Goku Black mainly gets around Gogeta 4s and Vegito's shit to an extent. Instant Transmission combined with God Slicer and a good beam makes him go from the worst all-around character to among the best just by his patches. Unfortunately he needs a great deal more skill to use effectively whereas Vegito can just mash and open you up a lot of the time just by using 3 moves.
_[GT Goku still vanishing in the background]_
There’s three really good fusions and three really good Gokus. Perfectly balanced.
The editing, detail, memes, clips, everything within this video is amazing and I love it. Always great to watch these videos, besides learning more things about the game ive played for 4 years it gives me new combo and blockstring ideas with each video.
Not only are fusions are dope...but they also are so dope to fight as,
All of them.
now it's finally true
6:24 *Did I scare you?*
[He knows xD]
great editing as always, esp. the SSJ4 Gogeta insta-kill super parts 😂
thanks bro
6:00 Moldybagel you successfully managed to make me shit myself even more with this Sonic.Exe like skit.
I always enjoyed Gogeta Blue and Vegito. They're my 2 favorite to play. I just throw in the Monke to complete the theme and for bar.
Also thanks for the vid it was great.
thanks my man
👀
Just put all c-assists and congrajulations, you are part of the problem
@@warmblanket3394 I got a playstyle you dont like I guess
@@warmblanket3394 i just played a monketa blugeta and ui lineup with all c assist i’m going to the dark side i’m picking up a fusion
Foxen once said something like "It would be terrifying if goku could spin jump
3:55
Start running
3 DAYS UNTILL GOKU STEALA YOUR LIVER
@@DaKingKayden🖐️
Dude what the hell is your editing. Like it's actually astonishing how insanely talented you are at this. I'm so glad your a part of this community, keep up the good work.
adobe premiere and personal suffering
This has absolutely nothing to do with gameplay but I love fusions because the metamoran outfit is rad and super fun to draw.
It is a cool outfit
as a fellow artist this is so based
Is no one going to talk about that edit at 4:34?
I died looking at SSJ4 Gogeta's face and SSB Gogeta's skeleton!
Props for having the decency of shouting out the GOAT Clayton. He's far more responsible for how the game is played than people want to admit.
Yeah I just wish he'd ignore his controversy lol he's so good but people tend not to respect him due to that
I actually only like the fusion dance but I still respect the Vegito enjoyers
Hopefully one day we can have a team of all SS4, thats what ive wanted to have since GT Goku came out
i would be really happy if they added SS4 Xeno Vegito from DBH, his design fucks, maybe also give him a moveset with supers based off DBZ Kakarot because Vegito in that game is top tier
I loved the fusions as a lore concept and now that the graphics and mechanics for him have come…I didn’t wast time to main this team. Though I play with Gotenks and blue fusions.
Not Gotenks though, he was brutally murdered in a back alley due to Drug Cartel issues
he deserved it
No I keep telling y'all. Z broly caught him and yamcha lacking in a back alley and beat the shit out of them and took their buffs
@@Troll_vs. Broly would totally do that.
@@BlackScreenProductions125 he did
Don’t know if you remember me but it’s really nice to see things went fortunate you and you even got a sponsor! Good shit bro.
9:28 i love this part because that jazz bass you added its perfect i love your videos and the music you use
:))))))
The power of Fusions can never be underestimated. Especially with how strong they are
3:07 now i understand why he's my main
The double airdash mix is ridiculous
I also love your editing style, to the point and informative, as well as entertaining!
Hour 1 team reporting in
Even though I've been playing this game for years Moldy always manages to teach me something new every video
Thanks for the insight bro
I have never and likely will never play this game, but these videos and your insight into the mechanics behind characters are utterly fascinating. I can't stop watching them.
I liked that this was fair, recognizing the fusions are strong without saying they are broken
And it explains WHY they have become/are good by highlighting the things that make you a strong character in the game
Usually the convo about them devolves in to complaining, and people complain about fusions because
1) They are part of the current competitive meta
2) They are popular, leading to them being played a lot
3) Anytime anything is good in this game, people meme it to death and complain about it
I just hope it doesn't turn into a GT Goku situation or a Bardock situation, where they start getting the nerf hammer while other strong characters are mostly left alone, because I don't think any of them are as good as those characters peaks
(And personally I would probably put Z Broly, 21, and maybe Base Geta above them rn even, except for SSJ4 Gogeta)
Only watches like 2 seconds and already the music choice is amazing. Happy for Sonic Colors Sweet Mountain Act 1
A little thing not mentioned is DP’s removed the ability to call assist but SS4 Gogetas was changed now where you can call assist while doing it
Loving the choice to pit each fusion up against their main villain. Nice bit of flavor to an already great piece of work.
9:58 damn didn’t know you could do that,this game’s bonkers now huh.
I really liked how you fluid slid your sponsor in at the start of the video, basing it off the topic of the video. Very professional and consumer friendly. Made me wanna buy express VPN 👏👏
Why is no one talking about the thumbnail? It looks great! Ive been watching for a while and I just wanna say that I love your content and that you don’t have to overwork yourself as I can tell this takes a lot of time. That aside I enjoyed this video and look forward to future videos!
Your editing and explanations are some of the most enjoyable and entertaining aspects of your videos. I actually learn more about the game even stuff I was never even aware of because of your videos.
Baby vegeta: WHAT'S GOING ON!?!
Gogeta: You're going straight to HFIL
You're kinda like the DBZ version of Asumsaus. I'd recommend you look into that channel as that guys editing is on another level.
Broly: DO SOME MATH!
Gogeta Blue: NIGERUNDAYO!!!
SS4 Gogeta being such an almost-joke-character monstrosity in every game might not be accurate anymore with the god forms around, but I kinda love it. A great running gag, I think they should keep it that way.
There aren't 3 Goku - Vegeta fusions, just two. Gogeta Blue even has some of SS4's moves, but that didn't stop the dlc...
Both blues are a lot of fun with their unique mechanics, but when playing with friends Gogeta Red is typically off-limits. Finding out he had even more ways to abuse his power is terrifying - though it is worth mentioning his super can scale below an instant kill with tags involved. Small victories.
yeah i suppose the way i worded it you could argue there's 2 or 4 forms total if you include ssj gogeta. i guess i was referring more to the reuse and rehashing of one idea. either way yeah it's kinda an error
People say Gogeta Blue has some of SS4 Gogeta’s moves, but in reality it is only the Big Bang Kamehameha. All his specials are different, his level 1 is unique (and if we want to count the level 7 since it behaves very differently then go ahead but I’ll understand if you don’t), and I’m pretty sure his normals are different. Even his reflect is different. In DBS: Broly, Blue didn’t have any party poppers, a blink that hurts the opponent, or a counter he stands still and it’s revealed that he hit you 14 times.
@@theomnigamer9177 ssb elbow to kick heavy and his fake kamehameha is based off of ss4 Gogeta though.
@@theomnigamer9177 You seem to be confused. What happened isn't that they grew to share moves, but that Gogeta Blue was given moves from all Gogetas. For example, the weird grab is from SS Gogeta, and the "Find the real one!" thing appears to be derived from SS4's fight with Omega Shenron, before the party poppers.
@@theomnigamer9177 standing heavy, Big Bang kamehameha, afterimage kamehameha, and air down heavy are all based on ssj4 Gogeta.
I love the small but deliberate detail that old gogeta was fighting janimba, and new gogeta is fighting sbroly, your care about every detail surely pays off and makes fantastic videos
:)
5:20 Baby Vegeta: *C O C K*
i love the gogeta "youre going straight to hell" line because its just literally true. he sends you straight to hell if you get hit
8:09 I see gogeta has perfected the golden ratio spin
Golden ratio'd
Even if I'm taking a break from jjba. The reference still follows me
It’s funny at the beginning is sweet mountain from Sonic Colors and then it plays again
I cant tell you how many fusion teams ive seen online,its just insane.
This channel is so goated and only gets better with age
I feel like a video on Ginyu, who is basically the most "standard" character in the game with two unique gimmicks, stood for a while. I dont think anyome would say he's bad because his moves are bad, hes just hard to make work in this current environment.
That ki blast scaling rou brought up coild be a major reason SSJ Vegeta dropped so low too...
Great video btw, just wanted to give you credit for that sweet jazz bass solo.
Sweet mountain act 2 is one of my favourite sonic tracks and i have never recalled hearing that solo before from the many years of reloading this track. Here i thought there was another alternate version or a most likely a remix but it was implemented so smoothly that it sounded official.
You are very talented not just in your editing skills but musically aswell. Looking forward to more content from you.
3:26
The most subtle Broly scream of all time
heh
@@MoldyBagel broly be like a
ive just realised whenever theres an ad, after the ad it says most replayed on the bar xd
10:19
Screenshot worthy to show to a salty opponent
Yes😂
I played this game for 2 hrs total 2 years ago, haven't touched it since. Found your channel 1.5 years ago. These videos are INSANELY well done! I will watch every single one of them.
You know what’s interesting? Almost every time that gogeta ssj4 has been around, he’s been overpowered in some way or regard. That’s just neat to me
He was disappointing in Legends.... until they gave him equipment that let him solo teams. One of my favorites is in a BT3 lp where he's described as "punching at the speed of murder and excels at making the game not fun"
Editing is S-tier, also someone made an awesome point about the fusions, if they aren't S-tier it's heresy
For some reason it's looks really funny to me when ssj4 Gogeta just do his level 7 without showing Goku or Vegita, like it's all happening too fast lol
I don't even play this game, I just love watching your gradually rising indignation over the absurd amount of power creep going on.
Can someone tell me the name of the sound effect he uses at 9:04 the little beeping I absolutely love it
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@@MoldyBagel Thank youuuuu
Gee the thumbnail is some of these sickest shots i’ve ever seen. Amazing job on that bagel.
6:18 he said dumb@$$
I like the fact the devs knew ssj4 gogeta is way more powerful than super and wanted yo be anime accurate
2:55 If really terrible puts you in A tier then I don't know what's what anymore
that's the full game roster at the time though, so bottom tier
that sonic colors music in the background is under appreciated 🎶
What I'm learning here is that Gogeta Blue is getting collateral damage from the other two being busted.
essentially
Gogeta definitely deserves the attention. Look at how played he is. You probably won’t find an event without a swarm of Blue Gogetas.
your content brought back my interest in the game, thank you for all the time and effort you put into your videos!!
Heck yeah play it brother
1:16 to skip the sponcer.
Jeez! That bass solo at 9:20 caught me so off guard! It's so gooood!!
Literally 85% of everyone’s team in ranked or with UI Goku 🙄😂🤦🏾♂️
yup
The editing and comedy were top-notch
6:36 i thought i was gonna cut to fox from melee
These videos are great for my baby cousin to enjoy. Thanks dude!