"Hello miss Hlebinsky, I'm really sorry... I know I said I was going to take care of the guns you let me look at... making sure to maintain them in their current condition....but I've fixed this one.... I'm so sorry."
You should do some videos of you sitting down for the first time, and trying to figure out how a firearm you've not seen before works. That bonus footage where you were learning on the fly was great to see.
Loved the "bonus" footage even more than the main video, thanks for including that! Must have been an amusing conversation afterwards..."So Ashley, remember that one of a kind prototype rifle I said I'd be so careful with? Well the bad news is, I "accidentally" took the whole thing apart. But hey, the good news is that I fixed it!"
I am so glad you managed to fix that gun, I suspect there is some missing or bent part that is causing the follower to do that, perhaps there is a limiter for the follower missing.
I love how much more excited you can tell he is in the second video than in the first. You can tell in his voice how happy he is to be able to look at the innards.
Great stuff, Ian, the joy of discovery is very obvious. Interesting progression of the evolution of Browning's initial design. Let's see what calamities happen tomorrow.
Love the more "real time" style of this video. Don't get me wrong, your regular, edited, videos are great too, but it's really cool to see your process at work!
This was one awesome video Ian! Keep up the great work and Thanks for going out to places like this to show us viewers these awesome firearms and for giving us invaluable info. on them! I can't wait for more!!!
Nice video as usual, it was really interesting and cool to see the extra footage as well. Btw, if you start spreading the news that you accidentally disassembled and repaired this rifle to other museums, maybe they will invite you to look at some really rare pieces (more than you already are allowed to) :p
Blimey, I somehow managed to forget that there is a separate Patreon account for Forgotten Weapons *as well* as Inrange. Enjoy your supplementary two pounds per month, Gun Jesus.
That's a fascinating bolt recoil system. The recoil impulse will be going downwards, towards the shoulder. In the long run it would seem that the the bolt locking surfaces will get worn pretty badly.
Remember that the bolt is locked into place by the operation of the operating rod via the link Ian pointed out. It would be the reverse operation upon firing and it looks like the bolt travels down at the back before moving backwards which would negate and wear upon the receiver. Ian?
It does appear the bolt is at full forward travel before being pushed up, and is not moving back until after the link has pulled it down, so, like a 1911, locking surface wear should be minimal.
I do appreciate the professionalism and editing that goes into your videos, but it was fun to ride along on the discovery phase for a change. Would I be correct in assuming that is the really fun part?
Bit of an offshoot question and comment but in your video you mentioned "time has not been kind to this particular gun". in your experience do firearms last an incredibly long time if well taken care of? or are they all doomed to failure and to fall apart.
smokeless rifles can last for centuries If kept in good shape, particularly modern ones with advanced metals, rifling wear would be the biggest concern on most though
he did a handgun competition with a 106 year old gun. He's showcased numerous auction guns that are well past 100. A well taken care of and well made gun will last lifetimes.
Most museum guests: “Please don’t play with the artifacts, you may accidentally break them.” Ian: “Please play with the artifacts, you may accidentally fix them.”
now thats interesting. ten years on and ol ed is still forging out a piece, then cleaning it up with a file or machining it.the op rod really looks like he forged it, then draw filed it kinda round.he did leave hammer marks all over the inside of it.grandpaw browning, (the one who made the harmonica rifle)would've been rolling in his grave.thanx ian.
The damage on the trial gun makes you wonder if it didn't suffer a case head blow out on firing. Maybe the unlocking timing wasn't fine tuned on this gun.
great to hear the excitement of problem solving and figuring something out. anytime you feel a desire to show a diagnosis/repair of any firearm or issue of such feel free to film and upload that as well, the fascination of older surplus arms and seeing how their assembled and the tips and tricks used or borried from other designs is as fascist aging as the arms history to me, and the aha moments of diagnosing issues is a lovely fascet of older perhaps not 100% politely used or aged arms
I really want to know how they shoot since they have that grip traveling bolt. The only thing that I can think that would be similar would be the Kriss Vector but that has a little different travel, so would the bolt recoiling downwards help with recoil or not? These are such interesting rifles!
For those wondering, it got the name Widowmaker because it had the potential to blow the users head off while charging the gun, and there is at least 1 instance where it actually happened.
It looks like almost a half toggle lock system that operates internally in the receiver. I wonder if he was inspired by Pederson, or White designs along with the 1911?
I still don't understand how the gas piston works. How does it seal, what prevents the gasses from just blowing by it and entering the stock/handguard area on the sporter version. The military version has vent holes, but again how is that a sealed cylinder up front?
The annular gas piston is just using its restrictive area upon the gas exiting the port to provide force, likely along with the forces from the chamber pressure upon the cartridge & bolt itself I think/envisage.
Ian you should do a video on the winchester 1911 sl. I really think it's a great gun, I mean what's not to love about burning your hand every time you charge it. And I'd love to hear what you know about it I've read quite a bit about it myself but I'd like to hear what you know about it.
all this talk of APG makes me really miss the museum they had they which sadly 75% of the collection moved when the ordnance school did and the new base commander wouldnt let them keep it open with a smaller collection
And so-eth, on the third day Gun Jesus laid his hands upon the holy relic, and cured it off all it's ailments thus making it the divine rifle of holiness.
The second military style one looks like it does. It's got two grooves in the side of the receiver that match up to the two knobs on the M1 clips (like so: www.garandgear.com/media/tutorials/Clip2.jpg)
I've seen that. But this beeing experimental doesn't mean it does. And since Ian had taken it apart he might have tested it, given that he mentioned this earlier in the video.
Axel Schneider True, I'm only making an educated guess. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Browning just used a proprietary clip. All of the trails guns had their own clips
"Hello miss Hlebinsky, I'm really sorry... I know I said I was going to take care of the guns you let me look at... making sure to maintain them in their current condition....but I've fixed this one.... I'm so sorry."
I was curious about that, too. "So, I accidentally fixed this rifle. That's not a problem, right?"
Ian was acting like a kid in a candy store in the later part of the video XD
Oh the joys of tinkering with a gun you know very little about....
17:55- "this is awesome, awesome" he gets so excited 🤔😃😍
As many have said in other occasions, “like a kid in a candy shop”
@@RaiderCat12why would you reply to a 8year old comment.
Also this is a cool action, cool gun, and yeah he has the dream job.
@@colinsmyth9211 just to verify if you were still alive.
@@RaiderCat12 haha
You should do some videos of you sitting down for the first time, and trying to figure out how a firearm you've not seen before works. That bonus footage where you were learning on the fly was great to see.
wonder how often Ed had to deal with the question "so what's your brother John working on these days"
Loved the "bonus" footage even more than the main video, thanks for including that! Must have been an amusing conversation afterwards..."So Ashley, remember that one of a kind prototype rifle I said I'd be so careful with? Well the bad news is, I "accidentally" took the whole thing apart. But hey, the good news is that I fixed it!"
Most of us break things on accident. Ian _fixes_ them on accident.
"accidently dissasembled it"
:^)
"This is awesooooome...~"
"So, it get's to right here, and then it jams. And I don't know what's holding it-
...oh, oh, oh, oh, maybe I do."
Exactly as I'm thinking "Wouldn't it be funny if Ian accidentally fixed the rifle?", Ian accidentally fixes the rifle.
I am so glad you managed to fix that gun, I suspect there is some missing or bent part that is causing the follower to do that, perhaps there is a limiter for the follower missing.
I love how much more excited you can tell he is in the second video than in the first. You can tell in his voice how happy he is to be able to look at the innards.
Just when I was disappointed none of my subs uploaded anything to watch with breakfast Forgotton Weapons comes through.
I just sub too a shit lode of people ahah
Ian was so excited figuring out how the action worked at the end. That enthusiasm is why I watch this channel! Cheers Ian
Man, I hate it when I'm at the range having a good time and I just accidentally disassemble my rifle.
Great stuff, Ian, the joy of discovery is very obvious. Interesting progression of the evolution of Browning's initial design. Let's see what calamities happen tomorrow.
I'll be damned, this chanel is one of main reason why I didn't quit YT, great work as always! :D
Well, on UA-cam videos are two days later than on Full30.
I'm sure the museum was pleased that you fixed their prototype rifle.
Love the more "real time" style of this video.
Don't get me wrong, your regular, edited, videos are great too, but it's really cool to see your process at work!
Thanks for the extended entertainment!
This was one awesome video Ian! Keep up the great work and Thanks for going out to places like this to show us viewers these awesome firearms and for giving us invaluable info. on them! I can't wait for more!!!
Ian has an "engineering eye" to catch the mechanical details... the bonus bit of this video is excellent!
seeing all the hand tooling marks on the underneath parts is so cool
Love the Extra footage !! Thank you for including it. Very informative and interesting video.
Nice video as usual, it was really interesting and cool to see the extra footage as well.
Btw, if you start spreading the news that you accidentally disassembled and repaired this rifle to other museums, maybe they will invite you to look at some really rare pieces (more than you already are allowed to) :p
Blimey, I somehow managed to forget that there is a separate Patreon account for Forgotten Weapons *as well* as Inrange.
Enjoy your supplementary two pounds per month, Gun Jesus.
Thanks! :)
Dr Strangelove oh my sweat baby Ean (spelling maybe?) your right! Give him white robes a purple Scarf and hed look like Jesus!
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It's "Ian". His and Karl's names appears in their InRange videos as a matter of fact.
Dr Strangelove oh i didn't realize that thanks for pointing it out!
That's a fascinating bolt recoil system. The recoil impulse will be going downwards, towards the shoulder. In the long run it would seem that the the bolt locking surfaces will get worn pretty badly.
Remember that the bolt is locked into place by the operation of the operating rod via the link Ian pointed out. It would be the reverse operation upon firing and it looks like the bolt travels down at the back before moving backwards which would negate and wear upon the receiver. Ian?
It does appear the bolt is at full forward travel before being pushed up, and is not moving back until after the link has pulled it down, so, like a 1911, locking surface wear should be minimal.
I do appreciate the professionalism and editing that goes into your videos, but it was fun to ride along on the discovery phase for a change. Would I be correct in assuming that is the really fun part?
One of your best vids ever, Ian.
great vids, I love how u have a some what specific focus on the history of the firearm in question, keep it up
Gun Jesus used his lay on hands. Miracles do happen!
The braze joints are informative. You can see how it was pieced together as the prototype came together.
Graet stuff Ian, thank you and looking forward to the next!
Quite an elegant rifle. Really looks sleek, especially with the military range adjust.
... And I "accidentally" disassembled it...
Bradley P. Michel sounds like me, with EVERY PC I have owned!
Very interesting ideas on these rifles, especially the 1911-like feature.
Bit of an offshoot question and comment but in your video you mentioned "time has not been kind to this particular gun". in your experience do firearms last an incredibly long time if well taken care of? or are they all doomed to failure and to fall apart.
smokeless rifles can last for centuries If kept in good shape, particularly modern ones with advanced metals, rifling wear would be the biggest concern on most though
he did a handgun competition with a 106 year old gun. He's showcased numerous auction guns that are well past 100. A well taken care of and well made gun will last lifetimes.
+Wyatt Roncin wow that's incredible
Mondays aren't complete without a history lesson. Thanks Ian
Have to say that this is a very clever design idea.
Most museum guests: “Please don’t play with the artifacts, you may accidentally break them.”
Ian: “Please play with the artifacts, you may accidentally fix them.”
ian, we fucking love you
Thanks Ian
Watching you geek at the end is awesome XD
I hope you can find a T31 - the annular piston designs are so cool!
now thats interesting. ten years on and ol ed is still forging out a piece, then cleaning it up with a file or machining it.the op rod really looks like he forged it, then draw filed it kinda round.he did leave hammer marks all over the inside of it.grandpaw browning, (the one who made the harmonica rifle)would've been rolling in his grave.thanx ian.
a two year old video with only one dislike? only on forgotten weapons
Would the missing spring, if present, push the bolt back in place in its rails fast enough for the ark to not affect it?
Also, is it just me or do all of the metal parts look like they were made in the Khyber Pass in the close-up footage?
I love the lines of these rifles!!
The damage on the trial gun makes you wonder if it didn't suffer a case head blow out on firing. Maybe the unlocking timing wasn't fine tuned on this gun.
Great bonus footage.
Question : is the only advantage of an annular gas piston vrs a regular one it's slim profile?
great to hear the excitement of problem solving and figuring something out. anytime you feel a desire to show a diagnosis/repair of any firearm or issue of such feel free to film and upload that as well, the fascination of older surplus arms and seeing how their assembled and the tips and tricks used or borried from other designs is as fascist aging as the arms history to me, and the aha moments of diagnosing issues is a lovely fascet of older perhaps not 100% politely used or aged arms
I really want to know how they shoot since they have that grip traveling bolt. The only thing that I can think that would be similar would be the Kriss Vector but that has a little different travel, so would the bolt recoiling downwards help with recoil or not? These are such interesting rifles!
beautiful beautiful video thank you very much for the historical information 😇👌
For those wondering, it got the name Widowmaker because it had the potential to blow the users head off while charging the gun, and there is at least 1 instance where it actually happened.
It looks like almost a half toggle lock system that operates internally in the receiver. I wonder if he was inspired by Pederson, or White designs along with the 1911?
I still don't understand how the gas piston works. How does it seal, what prevents the gasses from just blowing by it and entering the stock/handguard area on the sporter version. The military version has vent holes, but again how is that a sealed cylinder up front?
The ID of the piston matches the OD of the barrel, and the OD of the piston matches the ID of the gas housing(cylinder?) piece
That small hole on the front cap might have vented out the excessive gas.
The annular gas piston is just using its restrictive area upon the gas exiting the port to provide force, likely along with the forces from the chamber pressure upon the cartridge & bolt itself I think/envisage.
Ok, I can visualize a flange working.
Although from writing that 1st comment, I had watched the whole thing and re-edited it, it is flangeless, see my re-worked comment above..
Def the half brother's design. Had it been JMB's design it would have half the parts and make more sense how it works at a glance.
Great ending 'addition' :) Thanks!
Ian you should do a video on the winchester 1911 sl. I really think it's a great gun, I mean what's not to love about burning your hand every time you charge it. And I'd love to hear what you know about it I've read quite a bit about it myself but I'd like to hear what you know about it.
you should do a video shooting the Gatling gun out on the west strip in cody, also we have cowboy action shooting and some sweet pistol ranges
Ian, Have you ever come across a Singer 1911 at an auction?
Speaking of Carbine Williams, please do a video on his belt fed .22lr if it's ever convenient. :)
I wonder what the museum thought of your tinkering and unexpected discovery?
all this talk of APG makes me really miss the museum they had they which sadly 75% of the collection moved when the ordnance school did and the new base commander wouldnt let them keep it open with a smaller collection
Cleaning the gas system would extremely simple to accomplish.
Headstamp Publishing's new book, 'Fifty Shades of the 1911 Pistol'
love the vids
14:55 Bonus footage!!!
Uh, I accidentally your rare vintage rifle.
Is... is this dangerous?
"i keep accidentally disassembling my friends gun and accidently running oil patches down the bore and oiling the gun whenever i touch it."
oh no! a cliffhanger
Yes! Release the next video Ian - can't wait to see how this story continues!
DVD?
Damn that connecting rod is flimsy looking.
Is it just me or does this resemble the Savage 99 locking system?
Ed Browning be like: "Like if ur watching in 2005!"
And so-eth, on the third day Gun Jesus laid his hands upon the holy relic, and cured it off all it's ailments thus making it the divine rifle of holiness.
So you accidentally fixed that prototype? You need to wear your gun Jesus outfit to these things as you surely are a firearm miracle worker, ha.
Nice semi auto.
wat was the capacity
So does it use M1 clips?
The second military style one looks like it does. It's got two grooves in the side of the receiver that match up to the two knobs on the M1 clips (like so: www.garandgear.com/media/tutorials/Clip2.jpg)
I've seen that. But this beeing experimental doesn't mean it does. And since Ian had taken it apart he might have tested it, given that he mentioned this earlier in the video.
Axel Schneider True, I'm only making an educated guess. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Browning just used a proprietary clip. All of the trails guns had their own clips
hello
Who's the one bastard that disliked this video?
Radial mag. 40
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Terrible dreams milling-machine man
Damn that connecting rod is flimsy looking.