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WOODEN TANK | WOOD BIAS - Ігри
Many Soviet tanks came out of the factory with a couple logs on them so they could be put under the tracks in boggy terrain. It was also thought they might activate the initial fuse on incoming rounds stopping them from penetrating and spalling properly.
The philippine army recently done this during a war in Marawi instead of wood they used cardboard.
@@calebtron3077 wood is 100% more efficient at stopping and pre igniting lol, silly Philippines
It actually worked. Espec on HEAT and HESH.
@@calebtron3077 they also used woods.
@@ConnerV well the cardboard worked anyway
The new IS-2 is probably the only tank where it’s cosmetics actually work as intended
Judging from the few gameplay scenes of the new Leopard 2 (Pz.Bat. 123), I would say that the camo nets seem to work pretty well too.
Russian bias
@@KorporalNoobs how so??? the nets dont add anything other than camo at a br that uses thermals........
@@osirisgames1057 then why do many current MBTs still use camo nets? They are intended to break up the profile of the tank
@@BritishAgriPhotography because infantry exist???
Fun fact: The wood was actually not intended as armor. It was intended to help unstuck the tank if it got stuck in terrain. They'd wedge the log beneath the track and help the tank remove itself. But of course, it was an extra layer of protection against shells.
I did know know that but I don't think wood has any protection value as armor, unless they can test to figure out what arrangement of logs will detonate a HEAT round, I would suspect even at the very best is could be used to reduce how effective a HEAT round is but with tandem charges kinda being the standard these days, that too would be of zero use.
it was never intended as protection, hence why most russian ww2 tanks had the log on the back because there's no other use for it than getting some traction when you're stuck.
I certify this fun fact to be factual. 👍
What about morning wood?
Wood or tracks or cement or whatever was the first copium armor applied to tanks. They didn't do anything to protect your tank better.
They would chain the log to the tracks at the front and drive forward until the log was at the back of the tank. Repeat if needed
The wooden loggs on tanks would be used to get more friction on the ground, if the tank got stuck in mud.
They also give extra speed, just hang them on the vehicle of choice and , BAM! extra speed.
I absolutely love that I find myself being able to identify most tanks just by small details now, I promise I will find a time and place to use this knowledge in the real world one day.
Well, if you are playing game this is amazing ability cause you can recognise a lot of weakspots, but that most applises to old soviet/german tanks that did had a ton of moedls that actually changed aboslutelly nothing.
I just can't visualise how knowladge how to recognise each is2 etc... applies to reality. There is no possibilty of you using this knowladge.
Women love to hear about tiny details on different tanks. You should try it on your next date!
@@highjumpstudios2384 awesome! now i only need to get a date...
@@mastersniper4201 🤓
We know that an is-2 with Wood armour has more armoured than the maus
Also, Attack the D point
Defend the D point!
Yes!
NEVER!!
Attack your own D point.
@@iamperplexed4695 ....... do you play war thunder?
A tree gets larger in diameter, the older it gets.
The older the tree, the harder the wood.
Therefore; two younger trees ("tandem wood") with 100mm armor value being comparable to a single older tree with 100mm, completely checks out.
What _DOESN'T_ track, is the 100mm equivalent armor value lol Those look like pine or spruce, which are soft. Plus, wood isn't a nice strong crystallized structure like metal... it's a weak, flimsy fibrous structure, and potentially waterlogged if recently cut down... So it might gain a bit of stopping power, but since water doesn't like to compress, it'd give the log all the *more* reason to blow apart like that do.
_(I know, he's only joking, and, it's only a game, but just contributing that for the sake of the conversation 😁)_
That’s cute
Big thing on tank gearing. Don’t know for sure on the IS series, bit t34’s we’re verse really able to use a higher gear than second as their gears were too far spaced out. The driver physically couldn’t drive the tank faster than like 15kmh in combat.
Supposedly the hull gunner would have to help the driver ram it into third, right?
Same goes to reloading while going full speed in cross-country, or climbing steep hills.
@@tonedeaftachankagaming457 according to some sources the drivers would carry hammers to get into 3rd gear
@@rettichdergeile9361 this is true, not ALL obviously, but the ones that survived long enough to figure it out
Stop taking Lazerpig seriously. He thinks that Russia doesn't have it's own GPS.
I love playing Is-2, it actually made a difference when fighting Panthers n Tigers but I always end up against BR that is 7.0 or 7.3 which is not ideal 😅
One tank uses the log as armor the other design has a probably lighter dryer log used to help get you un stuck. The improvised log armor is green logs. Thus the small wet logs offer the same impact protection as the thicker dried log that was cut down before the tank was built
Super happy to see the IS-2 get some love, it's quite possibly my favourite tank in WT. :D I hope we get more little events like this one again.
6:00 You killed the SINGLE Icelandic WT player daddy Phly! Shame on you LOL
2:39
Phly this is the 4th time!
You need help with the meters and milimeters!
*500mm away?!*
I love how when u shoot the shot intimately obliterated the crew before even pening
"The morning wood is harder than anything known to mankind" - Me
Metal Armor worst armor
Wood Armor good armor
No armor best armor
I remeber reading somewhere, that the loga where used as an help with mud etc. But also to put under the tanks rear for getting more depression in Hilly terrain.
0:54 ur my fav youtuber not just because u intro duced me to war thunder a week ago but that ur also an f1 fan
A lot of tanks keep timber for 2 reasons, 1 for a small amount of amour but it also is used for when a tank gets stuck in mud they are able to put them under the tracks acting somewhat like the modern plastic tracks that 4x4 trucks used.
the technique you talk about really only applies to the first is-2, with low armour at the front, you reverse into battle so you have a much lower chance of getting killed, since the engine absorbs the damage. If you were to go facing forwards, any shot to your front would easily kill you. On the other IS-2s you got way more armour on the front so you don't really need to do that.
Weak lower front plate
You got some serious wood there Phly…
Please let 2:17 “girth of the wood” become a catchphrase of the Phly community.
“Ooh my missile didn’t hit that G.91…..must be the girth of the wood.” Would be phantastic.
wooden armor gets implemented, normal people: nice some extra protection.
Phly: I DEMAND PROPPER THICCNES!!! :D
That was an exciting video - thank you for giving me wood.
The IS-2 and T 34 85 D5T are my 2 most played tanks in the game, theyre also my favorite
The way Phly say wood, sounds like from the announcer in stronghold crusader saying wood needed
The angled engine deck of an is series is actually far more resilient than you would think. It will stop a Panther's round and can even give a long 88 a run for its money.
the most fun tank ive found above 6.3 6.7 is the maus
you only have 3 outcomes and all the time on the way to the fight to try to figure out which one youll gett
show the true power of russian bias and take bt-5 into top tier and get a kill day 1
Reverse Facing Gang still strong in the IS-2 Phly to this day and i cant tell u how many times its saved me against Tiger IIs, Nashorns, Sturers, Waffentragers and honestly every other tank that isnt british with op sabot
Missed the race but went to Monoco, Nice and Cannes last week so beautiful!
That German TD was sneaky as fuck! One of my favorite last minute stealth spots to use.
The logs are used if you need traction on muddy terrain if you didn’t know😁
The soviets used the wood on the tanks for when the got stuck in mud or Skeg. You would chain the wood to the tracks to act as a giant paddle. There are vids showing this.
Wooden stalinium.
Damn I subbed when you had about 150k, had you on my team back in 2017, these videos are still great. Been a good journey phly keep it up 👍🏻
I always thought it would be cool to see the logs fall or take some damage if you shot at them
War Thunder ground rb summed up - bonks riding a 1/6 scale sherman while Steve presses w and clicks the button to shoot
When you were trying to figure out how to pen that T-26 at the 5:00 mark, is exactly how I feel when trying to pen a KV-85 when I'm in a mid-tier Sherman
theres a weakspot on the lower glacis on T-26
@@Rodri_man544 I rarely play that high in BR/tier.
@@condor7964 playing for fun? Thats good
@@Rodri_man544 Eh, playing because I don't have much else to do in my spare time. Sometimes I enjoy it.
Day 210: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
I brought that thing because of your comments lol
Phly would bully the poor new players in that thing
Come on guys let this guys dream come through
PHLY, just.. DO IT!!
I am thankful for every single day Phly doesn't
I absolutely love the is2. It is such a great tank
I’ve got to thank phly he got me into realistic battles when I used to play arcade. I got the ISU-122 and I have been doing amazing even without it.
i am currently playing the 5.7 is-2 and i do the reverse is-2 strat works pretty well forces enemies to aim for my turret and not just point shoot at the giant lowerplate better kill my engine than my whole crew, i also overangle the side a bit and bait people into shooting the side, most tanks will bounce but tanks with heat will go through, the reverse is-2 at 5.7 works pretty good
Hey phly, love the latest vid as always!
The IS2 has always been a treasure in my opinion, if it wasn’t for the Tiger 2H
I think it would be the best tank for 6.0-6.7
Maybe the T26-e5 might steal that away a tiny bit?
But the IS2 has always been a power house
I know you’ll be super busy with the update as it comes, but if you ever get bored…
You should check out the Italian C13 T90!
It was the vehicle that got me my phirst nuke, and I’d like to see it and the ABUL/74 (specifically the 90mm) on the channel!
The combo means in any terrain you can get to a sneaky spot, and scout phor tons of SP!
(Day 80)
(But play the Hawk III first)
Have you used the IS-2's HE shot to take out the hull roof of tanks it can't penetrate? Like the one Phly encountered in this video?
@@jamesrowlands8971 I have not!
I usually stay away from HE because of how inconsistent it is for me
Same for HESH
I can never get it to penn what it’s supposed to
Heat or solid shot for me!
Or filler rounds
Love the Italian and Russian filler rounds
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 it's useful for those situations where two heavies encounter each other and don't have good shots on each other. That usually allows you the chance for the reload and the careful shot. For most German heavies you want to hit the bottom of the mantlet. Remember to reset your range after changing ammo types.
@@jamesrowlands8971 well
I main Italy
So…
Yeah
No real function for me lol
I got up to IS3 for Russia, m4a3 for America, tiger 1h for Germany and the French B2 Bis
That’s it
Still trying to finish up Italy, I’m at 8.7 for air, only have the starter heli, and got to get everything 10.0+ for ground
I don’t play much of Russia or really any other tech tree anymore
I started with Italy and I’m trying to finish it up now
@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Italy looks like an interesting tree. I'm at 9.3 on the Soviet tree. My other trees are low. Best is China at 5.7.
Ussr had the best 6.3 lineup with the T44 before the nerf plus the is2 and the su100p
What's the best kind of armor?
Gaijin: well...there is this log...
i know this is really late to comment this but the strategy with the IS-2 driving backwards is a thing, although it is better to just use the front armor of the 1944 design, unless you want to guard that lower plate
Phly is on pure TF2 Heavy energy:) great vid
The maneuverableity comes from the torque of the diesel engines used in all of the russian tanks. They just needed fewer gears, as as an example their german gasoline powered counterparts.
The reason why the Soviets changed to wood because Human Space armor doesn't protect the tank to chemical rounds
Comming in hot with the next update: super-op cope cages! xD
17:20 Kool Aid Man! OH YEAH!
*poinst curser at turret's rounded edge on the back of it* "Yeah that wood makes it like 300 mm"
5:51 you killed me phly you sneaky boy, I remember that. I had been looking for someone over there for a while and decided to move and BAM!
Its called Stallinwood, it has 175 - 180 mm Armor...The T-44 had a log on the back 175 mm armor.
6:05 i feel PERSONALLY attacked
Phly! Use the AR 234 to kill SPAA! What i usually do check where they shooting from, go towards them from far, and in a climb lob the bomb. It's very satisfying as they trying to shoot you, and the bomb is already flung in their direction :)
Yeah, same. 6.3 is the limit of BR that I could enjoy and if I want to go up, 9.3-10.0 would be the limit with only 2-3 game per day.
Hi Phly I advise to have a keybind for your gun on the cupola so your turret doesnt swing with your dshk when you want to focus on a plane or light vehicle
100%. Plus you can use it to accurately spot targets at long distance from behind cover.
8:57 Facts
Hey love your videos man your the reason why I started to get into warthunder
Next Lv Paper Amor 😂 finally paper armor that does something
Now I have a question
I can't see enemies easily from third person view. Usually I use binoculars but I think I'm using it way too much
İs something wrong with me or it's really hard to see the enemy
Also does graphics affect spotting enemy
sorry to say this but yes its the graphics, happens to me too
You should object. a piece of wood is in reality not going to have any appreciable effect on a tank round inbound, unless you cut down the General Sherman Sequoia and hid behind it.
Can you do a video on the T10M? It look like an is-3 on steroids, is really funny to play and is also a really good tank. I personally play it just with the APHE an some HE.
Even today, Russian tanks use the logs to help them get out of the mud. The crew puts it on the ground in front of the tank for it to get traction. It’s NOT spaced armor!
In my country, we actually use Wood and cardboard armor as an alternative to reactive armor.
Heard people say IS2 1944 sucks but I have so much fun in it
What rolls down stairs like boulders and pears?
Rolls over your neighbors dog?
What fits on your back, is great for a snack?
I've been messing around in Armor protection.
Spaced armor no longer works against tanks. Out of all the ones I've shot sent a heat at. none died
I think the IS-2's reload rate forces YOU, Phly, to play at a slower, more measured pace, rather than running around "with your head cut off." Not all of us do the latter even if a vehicle allows it. ;) Maybe try it sometime, particularly in a TD or SPG? ;)
Remember when Gaijin was thinking of adding armor degradation, where if you shoot a couple of times at a similar spot, the armor becomes weaker and you have bigger chance to pen? Yeah, guess they went with the easier solution where pretty much anything can pen anything. Cars with guns.
Wood meta confirmed.
Agree, I rarely play above 6.3-6.7, depending on nation. Precipitous fall off in fun after that. Peak fun is around 4.0 IMHO.
I really like 7.3ish bracket, you get lots of really fun vehicles and more chilled gameplay than top tier that's still good for grinding
Just a little nerd comment: the WW2 Russian tanks has grat mobility because of their diesel engines. They produced 2200 Nm of torque at 1200 rpm, and depending on the variant they can put out 450-700 HP with a speed of 1800-2000 rpm. For comparison, the gasoline Maybach HL230 had a maximum power of 700HP at 3000 rpm, but the peak torque was at very high rpm: 1800Nm@2100rpm. The Ford GAA (M26, later Shermans, etc) has 1400Nm@2200 rpm and 500HP@2600rpm. The diesel engines have much more flatter torque curves than gasoline engines, so they can put out more power through the full rpm range.
First time I played the IS 2 I hated it. But I do like to spade all my vehicles so I kept playing them. Had some good matches with them and finally got a 14 kill match in the IS2 1944. Was one of the best days I had in WT. The event IS2 is pretty fun as well.
GG
Phly, you might've seen it. Twin 23mm at 4.3 . Test it. You know what you have to do.
it funny that ur MG can pen through any tree but when those tree was put on tanks somehow become much thicker and can block shells
That engine and trans runs and shifts better than a new corvette haha nothing to see nothing wrong
Hey Phly, you should check out the 15cm slG 33 B Sfl. As embarrassing as it is to admit, that thing killed me while I was using the Turms
Son of a pickle... Well that's a new one! Im'a defiantly use it!
I have found out that 5.3 US is a pretty sweet br, from up there there is a bunch of suffering at least for me
Philippine army used wooden armor as well to combat insurgent rockets
Wood on Russian tanks is more than 3 times more effective than the additionnal armor found on the British Challenger Tanks in War Thunder.
Yes
No Russian bias
Challenger has armour? That too additional?
Bias towards to commies and bias against countries like the UK. We've known this for years from Gaijin...
Russian rubber > 10 ton of composite armor in war thunder.
On a side note i love playing the m22 at 9.7 , i all most all ways get a kill in it due to most tanks at that br is not faster than it and bc its small its ez to over look, i have killed 4 leos over all lmfao
I think the logs saved me once from a heat FS round once.
“Jam a wet noodle into a….what the fuu….dawg you got problems”
Yes, the wood also acts as a spoiler on the Obj. 268, it'll win in the next F1 GP
Hehe wood is stronger then metal confirmed.
" I just wanna be inside its engine "
- Fly
Do they have 2x4s as cosmetics ? Slap those on an RT-20 or an AUBL and recreate the Battle Of Marawi
Wood on side ... Stug III in Finland. So I guess we gonna get a new line.
Love the content Phly, keep it up.
Combo time, non premium P61 black widow and m4a2.
Attempt 62
Phly “ don’t go higher than 6.7 or your in the frustration “ me currently frustrated at 4.3 German tds
sandwichman in that m18 was putting in work
Horsepower is king, transmission gears are the queen and rear end is the kid. Please remember it takes a family to make it work and change how tons are able to move quicker. Now add cousins gas and diesel to the equation. It’s called racing people. 😀
Hey Phly could you play the F-8 Crusader? It's nickname during Vietnam was the Mig Master, and I was wondering if it lives up to the name in War Thunder.
U should do a lil movie of the tomcat top gun in war thunder I think that would look 👍
Sees IS2. Laughs in m22, F4U-1C, and F4U-4B
Hey Phly can you do another video on the AMX 13 which in my opinion is to high up in B.R and has a high repair cost (it did get lower from 12k to 9k). Anyone who plays this tank is a giga chad.