I realize you purchased some hardware, but I like the idea of salvaging older stuff and useful bits and parts off of old, no longer functional things. I did buy some buckles and such from Walmart and I recently found a package of cord keepers for 94 cents at Goodwill. But I also have coffee cans filled with buckles, keepers, loops, rings, sections of canvas webbing and straps. It's those little trinkets that can be just the thing you need to improve, fix or modify something. The older military gear may not have certain features, but it was good quality.
On the outside straps that cinch down the top get the nylon straps with the plastic female buckle attached and thread them through the original metal buckles and take all the slack out of them. On the original straps only cut off the doubled over ends that keeps the strap in the original buckle and thread it through the male side of the buckle. Tuck all the excess original strap back up through the loops around the top of the pack. If the plastic buckle breaks you can always thread the strap back through the original metal buckle till you can replace the plastic one.
Great series. I like the Frankenstein look on these sacks. Getting my Alice Pack today. Lost mine between garrison and home. Keep up the good work brother, RAH! +Renaissance Marine TV
These camo Alice packs or actually designed as I work all of my military service before radio packs and a small Patrol pack these are radio packs basically for field use
To fix the top flap I was told to use " Flexall" on the underside & linseed oil on the top. I haven't done it myself but have seen it done & it seemed to work so I'm going to try it myself. I'll let you know how it turns out.
yes, that is one of its uses. but not WITH the alice pack. i remember one of our radiomen would carry his prick strapped on the frame/shelf and attach deuce gear and buttpack onto the straps. early molle! but it was also designed with carry five gallon gas and water cans. i can attest to it. i carried many of the plastic five gallon water jerrys. but if your saying shelf AND alice with prick 77 inside the alice, no, never saw that. how would you get to the controls? what would secure the radio from bouncing around inside the pack and sliding off the shelf?
The radio controls on the unit I used was at the top of the radio. The radio went inside the radio pocket inside the alice and the shelf on the outside simply supported it. Yes, the shelf has several other uses. I just thought it may help to locate them.
I used to be able to get Alice packs that were practically brand new for 6$ each at the flea market, unfortunately they stopped selling that kinda stuff at the flea market
need too add a backer to the new clips thay pull out under heavy load cut a brass tube 1/8 line haft slip it in some guys use baling wire just a safety
good morning! i bought fastex buckles. they sell them individually at my surplus store. if you dont have such a source, tactical tailor sells a set just for such an alice pack revamp. www.tacticaltailor.com/allfastexbuckles.aspx
well that explains why your up at 3 in the morning, like my dumb ass! hmmm. i have no clue about the ins and outs of ordering from here to there. or the universality of fastex buckles.
I'm a little late to this video but I would have bought ANY AND of those metal buckles you cut up I need them for my modes and cannot find them any where her in California .
well i dont know why you would want them over the new fastex version, but to each they own as the bible say. how many do you need? i will look thru my stuff. i think i have some.
I personally wouldn’t add plastic Chinese buckles to my pack. My pack is American made and has lasted me my entire 20 years plus in the Corps. There is a reason you needed a heavy duty wire cutter to cut off the old Alice clips. Just go by a hiking pack from Walmart, and leave Alice alone. Semper Fidelis
It's your pack but in an old mans opinion any one changing out steel for plastic is looking more at making it his rather than making basic improvements . It just does not make since to an old fart like me but like I said it's yours so make your self happy I guess .
in general i would agree. metal trumps plastic. but having carried that pack from 1982 onward, i can tell you that the fastex buckles are a huge inprovement on the metal ones, in every way. fastex buckles have been the industry standard for several decades. you wont find metal rings or buckles on any serious military packs anymore. snaps yes, metal snaps are still better than plastic.
Not a problem here, I understand and give your self more credit new idea's are great change for the better is great but at 74 man I'm pretty much lock in . there is one thing I was tool and die maker for to many years made a lot of plastic injections molds that is where I get my distrust for molded parts . So many things can go wrong and you just never know with plastic where the failure is or when it will happened so many things there are flow lines gas problems when things are injected at such high temperatures there's a tremendous amount of gas which needs venting from the mold cavitiy and some times it just doesn't happen then you get fine flow lines which leads in some cases to failure. It happens with any plastic I'm sure improvements have been made but the basic problem gas with always be there when injecting anything . It's been fun Happy trails
I realize you purchased some hardware, but I like the idea of salvaging older stuff and useful bits and parts off of old, no longer functional things. I did buy some buckles and such from Walmart and I recently found a package of cord keepers for 94 cents at Goodwill. But I also have coffee cans filled with buckles, keepers, loops, rings, sections of canvas webbing and straps. It's those little trinkets that can be just the thing you need to improve, fix or modify something. The older military gear may not have certain features, but it was good quality.
Coming along nicely. I cannot wait to see the finished pack. Thank you for the video
Outstanding!. I've added fastex buckles to my ChiCom chest rigs, but never thought of using them on my ALICE pack. Semper Fi.
I saw dude doing an Allison pack. Spraying flexi Seal on top 2 Coats
And it looked really good when it was done, he had it in black
Flex seal will fix the under side of the lid
On the outside straps that cinch down the top get the nylon straps with the plastic female buckle attached and thread them through the original metal buckles and take all the slack out of them. On the original straps only cut off the doubled over ends that keeps the strap in the original buckle and thread it through the male side of the buckle. Tuck all the excess original strap back up through the loops around the top of the pack. If the plastic buckle breaks you can always thread the strap back through the original metal buckle till you can replace the plastic one.
Great series. I like the Frankenstein look on these sacks. Getting my Alice Pack today. Lost mine between garrison and home. Keep up the good work brother, RAH! +Renaissance Marine TV
These camo Alice packs or actually designed as I work all of my military service before radio packs and a small Patrol pack these are radio packs basically for field use
I know this a 3 year old video but if you take a can of the spray adhesive flex seal on the bottom of the map pocket it will make it water proof again
Lo tiene para la venta. Nesecito uno de esos mismos. Les agradezco
I upgraded the clips and it was worth it.
To fix the top flap I was told to use " Flexall" on the underside & linseed oil on the top. I haven't done it myself but have seen it done & it seemed to work so I'm going to try it myself. I'll let you know how it turns out.
Flexall?🤔
Hay going back over this vid @ 2:16 the top flap what is the pouch for under it maps ?
-You called "old school" those shoulder straps and kidney pad?...should see mines. I bought it in 1988.
They didnt have the shelfs listed on the web site I guess Ill call monday ! Ive never used the inside tie ups
yeah, call them. their website is garbage. and be specific with them. they are...different.
Are the grey replacement buckles 1 inch or 1 1/2 inch?
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FYI... the shelf is for supporting a radio in an alice.
yes, that is one of its uses. but not WITH the alice pack. i remember one of our radiomen would carry his prick strapped on the frame/shelf and attach deuce gear and buttpack onto the straps. early molle! but it was also designed with carry five gallon gas and water cans. i can attest to it. i carried many of the plastic five gallon water jerrys. but if your saying shelf AND alice with prick 77 inside the alice, no, never saw that. how would you get to the controls? what would secure the radio from bouncing around inside the pack and sliding off the shelf?
The radio controls on the unit I used was at the top of the radio. The radio went inside the radio pocket inside the alice and the shelf on the outside simply supported it. Yes, the shelf has several other uses. I just thought it may help to locate them.
Yes.... alice with shelf.
I used to be able to get Alice packs that were practically brand new for 6$ each at the flea market, unfortunately they stopped selling that kinda stuff at the flea market
need too add a backer to the new clips thay pull out under heavy load cut a brass tube 1/8 line haft slip it in some guys use baling wire just a safety
Nice
1606 airborn frame $35. then fit the molly straps and hipbelt.
I’m gonna have to do this to my Alice pack! Great job! SF
Someone has for sale. A backpack of the se.
what size buckles did you use? new subscriber here, keep up the good work
good morning! i bought fastex buckles. they sell them individually at my surplus store. if you dont have such a source, tactical tailor sells a set just for such an alice pack revamp. www.tacticaltailor.com/allfastexbuckles.aspx
thanks for the rapid response, im in Ireland here so ill have to go searching online and see what i can find,
well that explains why your up at 3 in the morning, like my dumb ass! hmmm. i have no clue about the ins and outs of ordering from here to there. or the universality of fastex buckles.
no worries man, ill figure it out, look out for a vid on my channel about me stealing your idea............lol
outstanding! nothing new under the sun, as the bible say! thanks for the chat! have a good day and be safe.
I'm a little late to this video but I would have bought ANY AND of those metal buckles you cut up I need them for my modes and cannot find them any where her in California .
well i dont know why you would want them over the new fastex version, but to each they own as the bible say. how many do you need? i will look thru my stuff. i think i have some.
At least 6 let me know thanks again .
I personally wouldn’t add plastic Chinese buckles to my pack. My pack is American made and has lasted me my entire 20 years plus in the Corps. There is a reason you needed a heavy duty wire cutter to cut off the old Alice clips. Just go by a hiking pack from Walmart, and leave Alice alone. Semper Fidelis
i dont believe issue fastex buckles are made in china.
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just subbed 0311 Bravo 1/1 89-90
May be a NATO pack ?
It's your pack but in an old mans opinion any one changing out steel for plastic is looking more at making it his rather than making basic improvements . It just does not make since to an old fart like me but like I said it's yours so make your self happy I guess .
in general i would agree. metal trumps plastic. but having carried that pack from 1982 onward, i can tell you that the fastex buckles are a huge inprovement on the metal ones, in every way. fastex buckles have been the industry standard for several decades. you wont find metal rings or buckles on any serious military packs anymore. snaps yes, metal snaps are still better than plastic.
I stand by my comment. Happy trails
and to you brother, no one is trying to change your opinion. my videos are nothing but opinion. and i am the dumbest guy you will talk to all day.
Not a problem here, I understand and give your self more credit new idea's are great change for the better is great but at 74 man I'm pretty much lock in . there is one thing I was tool and die maker for to many years made a lot of plastic injections molds that is where I get my distrust for molded parts . So many things can go wrong and you just never know with plastic where the failure is or when it will happened so many things there are flow lines gas problems when things are injected at such high temperatures there's a tremendous amount of gas which needs venting from the mold cavitiy and some times it just doesn't happen then you get fine flow lines which leads in some cases to failure. It happens with any plastic I'm sure improvements have been made but the basic problem gas with always be there when injecting anything . It's been fun Happy trails