Medium ALICE Pack - Tips, Tricks & Mods
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- In this video we look at the Medium ALICE Pack - Tips, Tricks & Mods. I show you how I have set up my ALICE pack and a few tips, tricks & mods that you can make to make an already good pack great.
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Good job. i liked and subscribed. I wil Visit USA for a first time soon in July, and have been thinking about buying Alice pack to take home with me when i am finish my trip
wer to buy alice pack and how much
Loved how you use the space between the belt and your back to store soft stuff like a poncho. The paracord handle is genius
@@markromawak1913 ebay!!!!!
I like you mods. I worked for Tactical Tailor in Lakewood, WA and we modified / repaired thousands of Alice packs from all over the world. My special mod was to cut the bottom 1/3 off of a plastic trash can and use it as an inside base. Also when camping I pull it out and use it as water container to wash with. Thanks for making a great video.
Thanks! I also make that mod and have a video on it also. It is harder to find a trash can that will fit the medium pack than it is to find one to fit the large pack...
Back when I was issued these, instead of a false bottom we threw a spare pare of boots in the bottom, laid on the sides heal to toe, and filled in the center with spare underwear or anything that fit. Same idea, make a flat bottom. Good tips.
Yep, same thing using a different item. A false bottom makes it ALOT easier to pack your gear...
love my alice gear it served me faithfully while serving in the light infantry i will not go into the woods without it!
Me too, I have a lot of that stuff
The Para cord Hand Hold was a great idea my Friend. Having the tarp located toward the back side also allows for extra padding when hiking. Thanks for sharing FBB&S👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks my friend. Gotta have that grab handle. Looking forward to your next live feed...
Thanks my Friend I appreciate the support.👍👍👍👍👍
Grab handle is slick.
I still have my large ALICE from when I was airborne infantry. That space between the frame and ones back is for ventilation usually. Granted, I sweat like a 500lb gorilla. Admittedly, I was lazy and sent it to tactical tailor to be tricked out.
It's actually my backpacking backpack now. It will never break.
Great mods, Matt. Nothing crazy, nothing to break the bank. Thank you for showing them to us.
Thanks. Quick and easy mods, nothing permanent, make the pack a lot better overall.
well i feel inspired to mod my Medium Alice pack its seen service and some how ended up over here in UK its best bit of kit i have ever had the frame is awesome for strapping stuff on Its got M-249 written on the back i'm sure it was used to carry belts for the m249 its 70's issue cool to have some US history
Awesome! I really like the ALICE stuff as you can see from my videos...it is some of the easiest stuff to modify
thanks Matt. great pack, I have a couple too. like the tip on the false bottom. will be making them
Thanks. The false bottom is the real winner here, really helps in loading the pack...
Right on FB!! Looking forward to the trail vidjas!!
*Have a good'nnn*
Thanks! Be on the trail soon with this pack...
I subscribed. Every search term results in your videos being among the best, and being a FloridaBoy myself I can't help but love your attitude. Thanks for the videos! (BTW just got my medium ALICE pack, starting to fill it up.)
Thanks! Back at ya on the sub. What part of FL are you in?
I'm just a little north of Tampa Bay. Any ideas on some good "dispersed" camping sites or areas? I don't mind driving a few hours.
I use that "space" to hang my Source 3L water bladder & cover and run the hose up and over the shoulder straps. Great spot for it!! Thanks for the ideas, great video!
I never thought about that but am gonna try it...thanks!
Love the mods, Brother !
Keep 'em coming !
While I was in, we used to take our regular bungees (the camo colored ones) and wrap them around the frame that faces our back. Hook it on the left or right side, then over the opposite side, then hook it to the starting side. It keeps the bungees from hanging up on anything in your pack, plus it still gives you that space to place that tarp or other things in there (we used our VS-17 panels in there).
Keep up the great work, and I look forward to more of your videos, including the canteen cup tuesdays.
Thanks man. That is unused space in the back but it can be used for a lot of stuff...
You can put a water bladder in that empty space where you put the tarp and run the tubing up over the top next to the shoulder straps.
Awesome mods Matt! I really like the grab handle and false bottom.
Thanks man. The false bottom is the real kicker, really helps pack a lot of stuff in there...
Good video. Im going to use your ideas on my alice pack. Thanks for sharing!
No problems.
Some more valuable tips ol buddy! Thanks !
✌️
Thanks man...
Great ideas!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
I like some of the older military stuff all the way back to Vietnam and even WW2 gear used by us, Germany and the British. It's still functional and it's easy enough to make a few modifications or upgrades. Nicely done and thumbs up from Orlando.
Thanks! It is all very functional and you can pick it up for almost pennies on the dollar in brand new condition
If you make the false bottom from closed cell foam, you have an insulating sit upon as needed with really no extra weight.
Great idea!
Nice mods. Got to put the buckles on my pack. Thanks for the tips.
Thanks. The buckles are REALLY easy to do and make a ton of difference
Very good stuff I’m in the marines and we all use Alice frames because their is nothing better than old school but they are amazing frames and packs and this helps us with making it more comfortable I use it for ruck running smoothest run ever with 45 pounds going for a good 6 miles
Thanks! I love everything ALICE
Love the Alice packs we were issued them in the New Zealand Army also jumped with them as a paratrooper as well we always altered them ourselves with our sewing awls we also had special shoulder straps and the back pads
They are great packs...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival Awesome packs the only gripe we ever had with ALICE Equipment was the ALICE Clips lol as soon as humanly possible the Clips were shit canned and belt loops were sewn on that's on the web gear not the packs of course
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival we sewed a Claymore pouch on the top of the pack flap and added two large pouches on both sides of the pack gave us tones more room
I really like your version of the buckle mod. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
Great video. I also use the gap between the frame and the rucksack. That's where I store my tarp, for sure. Therefore more space inside my ALICE.
Thanks! That is a great space for a tarp...
That pack looks brand new!
It was a NOS item that I got from an ebay seller. Lucky I guess...
This is a fantastic video. Keep up the good work
Thanks. More to come...
Great video, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Seriously appriciated you thorough documentry on the tips and mindset bro
My pleasure!
I run a medium alice with a 1606MC frame, molle 2 straps and waist belt. I use the webbing at the top to attach a molle waistpack right under the lid, a sleep system carrier at the bottom, 2 - 200 round saw pouches on the bottom sides or canteen covers if no 3L hydration bladder in the radio pouch. You can add nod pouches on the waistbelt or a left and right 3 mag with grenade molle pouch for quick storage. Gives me plenty of room for mess kit, fire kit, ifak, sleep gear of choice and a DD tarp or Hammock. Good video man. I use a 13 gallon trash can cut off to fit my pack. I run 550 cobra braids for handles on it. I dont use it a lot but if I need to haul water I can. Big plus is if you use a white trashcan it makes it easier to see in your pack. Bungies are great for setting a fly. 👍I rarely use 550 'A-lines' anymore. Just keep the 550 for guylines really already attached to the tarp. Easton stakes with 550 loops to quickly attach to the guylines that way of you gotta pack up in a hurry you dont lose your stakes. Wooooohoooo. You got me all excited, lol. I love Alice. She's my go to girl.
You setup sounds great! There is so much that you can do with the ALICE system, I love it also...
Nice setup Matt. I like the false bottom idea, likely will be borrowing that. Thanks Buddy!
Atb ~Karl
Thanks. borrow away my friend! The false bottom makes a HUGE difference...
I'll let ya know when I do and what I think. Thanks!
Do you have a template for the false bottom?
Very good ideas, brother. Thank you.
No problems...
What's going on Florida boy? Nice job on the para cord handle. I've ran into the same inconvenience with my US Army pack too. I guess I will need to practice up my skills on looping a para cord bracelet. Subd your channel brother to check out more later.
I appreciate what you are doing out there for the survival community.
Thanks man! I am subbed to you now also. the handle, whether paracord or otherwise, makes a HUGE difference in how you can handle the medium pack. try it!
Nice tweaks man, I use a 10l collapsible sink as my pack base, it's handy in camp as you can use it as a food prep surface/chopping board, fetch water etc, its a basin for washing/shaving in and if you have an inflatable pillow/airmattress pump, you can use that and have yourself a footspa for those aching plates too.
Nice man...
Very good ideas. Thank you very much
Thanks! This is a very versatile pack...
Matt, Thank you very much. Very good ideas. For hiking and camping, where is a good bayou/ swamp area in Florida?
Thanks! There are lots of places, such as Ocala National Forest, or any of the WMA's around the state...
Don't know if I had seen this video before (thumbs up!) but I did all the exact same mods aside bungee cords and the hard bottom. I've seen some other version of the hard bottom mod, but corrugated plastic is just the best idea so far, especially for the price! I might do that to a few packs...
The corrugated stuff is the way to go. Cardboard bends too easily...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival Working on it, got 2 different thicknesses of it from the hardware store😁
Awesome mods and great video
Thanks. These are easy cheap mods but make a big difference...
Awesome! Many thanks😊
Greetings from Germany!
Thank you! Cheers!
After all these years, why did I never think to put a grab handle on my ALICE medium? (Slaps forehead)
Lol, it is really pretty easy and makes a HUGE difference...
I thoroughly like surplus also and really like my med alice
Thanks! Me too, it is really good stuff that is very inexpensive
Some good ideas, I am gonna go now and pad ALICE's bottom
Thanks! The false bottom makes a BIG difference in how it packs and what it will hold...try it
Just seen this and love the false bottom and that is really cool.
Thanks! I put a false bottom in most of my packs, it really helps...
Another great video Matt but you forgot to show us how you strap that favorite knife you own you know the BUCK 119 onto ALICE, or is it strapped onto you? On my ALICE packs I got US military surplus webbing cut some up and my wife sewed it to the pack in the same spot as your paracord handle. It works great. I'm guessing your paracord handle works great too. Great video Brother. Keep up the good work.
My Buck knife is always on my belt not on the pack. Sometimes it is IN the pack on the way to camp, but then it is on my belt. good idea on the webbing for a handle, I would have done that but I can;t sew...lol
I LOVE those little packs. You show me some GREAT ideas. Thanks Man! The area behind the shoulder pads and before the metal frame is a great place to store stuff now that I think about it and now that you've shown me how to use it. Thanks. Keep on hiking brother. Bart
Flex seal on the inside of the top flap to fix the old waterproof top. And a Camelback fits in to the open space on the back of the frame. Just a couple things I've seen
Yep, these are great packs
Thanks for the video I got a few good tips like the handle was a great idea and the false floor would work great for me. I got a question for you. In you years of useing you Alice pack have you had any luck finding the US GI spaghetti straps? Was curious my father has some on his pac and I would luv a set but, cant find any? Thanks my friend for the video
Thanks! I have not seen them anywhere either....
Very good and useful tips! My country army still using our own knock off version of this rucksack and it’s almost good, it’s cheap, durable and all but the design is so bad like they tried to simplify it but they didn’t know how the design works😂
Nothing like the real thing...
Nice pack mods!
Thanks. Those are just a few quick and easy ones...
Something I did was wrap some full size bungee cords around the frame where your tarp is. They weigh practically nothing and the bungees give you a way to secure some flat items.
I kind of do the same thing, only with smaller bungees...
Good stuff!
Thanks!
Instead of storing a tarp on the back, I put a thermarest z-seat there with a canadian jam knot securing it which adds some padding and uses that extra space
Great idea. That is basically unused space and is a great place to store stuff...
Also use mule tape to hang it up on a tree. Mule tape is light and holde up to 2500 lbs
That will work also. The bungee method is easy....
What my dad did to his was he zip tied the quick release straps where the straps unbuckle since the are known for coming undone ALL the time on ruck marches and patrols and such. So, maybe consider that for another mod.
I liked the mods you did, I have my dads ALICE pack from when he served so I got all the gulf war mods on it haha.
Very cool...I love the old ALICE stuff...
I tape mine…
Im in Florida and this is the only video of you're i have seen so far but I subscribed
I wanted to comment about machete. I learned recently from another video machetes and shovels etc can go behind the side and back pockets there are gaps
Yep, already know that but thanks for the tip...
Nothing beats the durability and space of the Alice pack. I wanna back quickly and not worry about space.
You got that right. I love mine
Matt ,I like your video on the Alice pack I have 3 1,med 2 large did all your mods on them ,my question is On the med Alice pack there are 3 sets of tie downs in side .what are they used for ?
You can use them to draw up the inside of the pack to make it smaller...
I like your mods to ALICE.
Thanks!
Good idea with making a handle. My lc-1, the larger one, has a handle I believe.
Thanks! It really makes it a lot better
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival 1st thing I noticed when I got it, went to put it away and grabbed for the handle.... Ummm. Nope. No handle. My larger rucksack DOES have a handle. It is a lot bigger, but even kids school backpacks have handles
Where you put your tarp i put a platypus bladder and pouch and run the hose up over my shoulder
I have thought about doing that. You can also put a platypus in the radio pouch inside the main pack...
Some good stuff I havnt seen before.
Thanks!
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival oh. You're welcome. I need to find a tutorial on the paracord handle.
@@UuddlerLeRoyBaStart It is pretty easy to do...
I'm pretty sure. But the only thing I've done with paracord is wrap the handle on my roofing hatchet I got from Wal-Mart.
iv'e got a thing for ALICE...oh yeah!....nice mods Matt...woods
Me too, I like ALICE better than MOLLE...lol
Suggestion. I have a woodland medium ALICE pack. attach woodland sustainment pouches to it for some extra storage
I have seen that done and was considering it myself, however the medium ALICE pack has enough storage for me right now so no sense in attaching them...
I just did that yesterday! Keep my goretex jacket and pants in one and my tarp, hammock, suspension, ridge line & stakes in the other. Works awesome!
Great video can you do a video on the para cord grab handle
Thanks! Sure, I will work on that one for ya...
Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Any links to your previous videos on Alice/duce gear or Molle rig?
I have a playlist on those...
Hey great video
Any idea how many leater it is
I think the medium packs are about 39 litres
thanks i like it.
Thanks! You can really do a lot with this pack
Right on
Honestly.. I've never really liked the Alice pack. Not sure why.
Mods looked good though.
Thanks for the video
The pack is not very user friendly. It fits some people pretty good, like me, and some it is terrible on....
Do you have any tutorial about the paracord handle? Really appreciate it.
I do not but there are a few other videos on it if you search...
Cool video
Thanks!
I’m outbackScout_. And. Where u put your tarp I put. My tarp and I’m able to put my poncho .
I was thinking about how cool would it be to use the Alice frame as a army-cot using wood
Cool. there is a lot of unused space in the medium pack. The cot idea is pretty good....
Hello Sir. T.U for the nice presentation. 😊
I am a female, 5,4 foot tall. Do you think the shoulderstraps and frame will fit me?
Does the hipbelt work well to hold weight?
Thank you 🙏
Yes it should fit you well and the hip belt holds 90% of the pack weight on your hips instead of your shoulders...
Where did you get the thick pad shoulder straps? I've only seen them in Ghostbusters.
They came with the pack, they are stock
Great mods
Thanks! My pack is gonna go on a trip with me soon...
I used this pack as my book bag for high school.
You could put a lot of books in there...
Exactly. Plus fuckin with school security was fun. I fit the description of a school shooter and they made sure I knew it.
Holy hell, in this episode of "modify your ALICE pack with Glenn Frey" good video man
Thanks...I think lol
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival haha when I started the video I was like holy hell this guys looks like Glenn Frey from the Eagles!
SuperGood
Thanks! More upgrades coming on this one...
I took my large Alice pack with frame out for 4 mile hike into Ocala National forest..was way to heavy...Didn't thank I had that much over what I needed..but need to cut weight..get lighter stove...took my Coleman 533 single burner... Ditch extra MRE..etc..but still that's not much
You can easily get happy with these and load them up VERY heavy. A little planning and packing goes a LONG way with these packs...
Yeah, tell me about the weight thing. I humped my 60lb med alice a couple miles down to a creek bed in southern Ohio. I'm in my early seventies, and although I enjoyed the two day camp, it was always in the back of my mind about getting my sorry butt back up that hill. Got packed up and squared away and started up the trail when a Ranger showed up in a Polaris. Has to be said that the Good Lord watches out for kids, drunks and foolish old people. I use a hammock set up, but just need the discipline to say 'no' to some of the stuff I want to pack. Good vid on the mods!
Can you use a pack with the shelf’s to hold wood water ect. And still have your gear
The shelf fits just below the pack so to use the shelf with gear like ammo boxes you have to remove the pack
If you have the pack on the frame you can’t put anything on the shelf but you can do it to where you can use the shelf to hang stuff off the bottom of it
Did you have a thread cap on the pvc so you can store things in it?
No that piece of PVC was for another project and does not go in the pack. I am just using it as a packing support for the pack.
Just a thought, you can paint it and it could be water tight.
nice vid👍😊
Thanks!
Where in Florida are you? I am in New port Richey - Pasco county north of Tampa on the gulf coast.
I have a good friend in Port Richey. I am over in Melbourne on the east coast...
Does anybody know how much weight the frame can support? I wanna remove the medium pack and put on 2 shelves for weight training. It's a mod version instead of dropping $175 for the connector plate alone that holds 45lbs plates ( additional cost!)
No idea, but just looking at it you can tell that it will hold a considerable amount of weight...
D Towers Fill pack with sand .
Nice review. Curious why you use Nalgene canteens instead of USGI ones? Seems almost sacrilege to not use USGI canteens with all the USGI gear.
Lol...right? I have several USGI green canteens that I use with other rigs, these are ones that actually came with my medium ALICE pack and are easier to use and clean so I use these most of the time.
FloridaBoy Survival How I clean my canteens: I wash them with hot water, fill up with hot water but leave about 10-20% empty, replace cap and vigorously shake. Empty water. Refill and put one denture cleaner tablet in canteen (I use Efferdent). It kills 99.9% of germs, is safe on plastics, human safe. Let sit overnight then wash out canteen. I also use it on my water bladders instead of Camelbak’s overpriced cleaner tablets, which are the same stuff, really.
Mr. Tangent I use ‘milton’ baby bottle tablets and do the same.👍👍
Thanks for the tips, just got mine 👍🏻, do you go by nasa, was there one summer, the gators 🐊 kept looking at me, daring me to come closer 😳
Cool. Yes I get up around NASA occasionally. Yes there are lots of gators in the Banana River
FloridaBoy Survival , thanks for the reply 👍🏻🐊
I've watched this vid and your bucket vid about 5 times. Lol. The machete. You can slide it between the space in between the pouches on the back. Each pouch has an empty space behind it. Check that out
I tried that, it stuck out too far below the pack for me and could fall through the opening...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival I have 2. Both fit fine. The one is a cheap Wal-Mart (Gerber). Its shorter. Not a full length one. The other one. I cut in half. So it's smaller than that. I plan on putting a handle on the piece I cut off too.
I dig your shirt! What kind of Fender do you have?
Thanks! I have a Stratocaster and a Telecaster
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival I have a Strat too; one of these days I gotta get me a Telecaster! Love your channel man!
What tent are you using?
I am currently using the River Country Trekker 2a
How do you make a paracord bracelet?
Its pretty easy, there are a lot of basic videos on it
I did not find the alice buy link, on the description.
There is not a good medium ALICE pack on amazon, I got this one from ebay...
I’m 34 but in my early 20s, I bought an Alice pack with every intention and going out into the wilderness but being how I’m afraid of the woods and going out by yourself when you’re afraid of the woods kind of sucks I never pulled the trigger on that I just came across my old Alice pack it used to have the frame But I guess I took it off and misplaced it. It had some mods done to it. The buckles on the wrapped handle shoulder straps as well as a waist strap that was attached to the frame that is misplaced with the frame. Anyways, it’s in my garage right now.
Use it!!
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival I need to I’m also from Florida. so you and I both know our woods are pretty scary. We got all kinds of shit that will kill you there.
@@Marlevlyn That is why I always carry a gun
Hola compañero de aventura la mochila medium alice tienen la capasidad de recistir al peso es muy dinamica el modelo esta echo para estar en terreno yasea en el vosque,en la jungla o desierto
Sí lo hace, es un paquete muy polivalente. Gracias por ver
I always wandered who bought the medium ones.
Lol...guys like me.....
Just bought an ALICE pack. And measured her up, and ordered some zippers.
For what? On sides where water bottles clip on..I'm putting 4 straps, 2 zips, and putting British PLCE 12litre rocket pouches on the side
Nice, that should work also. You can also use MOLLE sustainment pouches on the sides too...
Lol, damn wish I had that kind of time to fiddle with my Alice pac
It doesn't take very long to mod it a little...
Stop surfing the web and get to work!!! Lol
Wow you the man my friend my wife love your video to
Thanks! More of them to come...
The rubberized coating on the inside of the main flap on my ALICE, large, pack is peeling off. Do you have any suggestions for a replacement coating? Everything is inside the pack is inside one of many of those waterproof inner bags, found a bunch of those pouches at a Army/Navy surplus store. So nothing gets wet. But, would like to replace the coating. That ALICE pack has been in use for over 25 years. No tears, rips, or broken seams. I suppose that coating just has an amount of expected use by the manufacturer. Just worn out through use. Would like to recoat the material. Tried rubber cement, silicon gasket paste, and, a tent waterproofing solution from a sporting goods store. No joy for results.
I am not sure that you can get another decent approximation of the mil spec rubberized coating. Mine is still in good shape, but with any serious use I think all of them flake off...
spray it with (flex-seal ) they make it in clear and you can get it at wal-mart for about $8.
@@awh5773: Does Flex-Seal stay pliable and flexible? Won't do if it will get hard and crack. I'll try it out though. Thanks for a solution.
@@whomagoose6897 if u do try it I would suggest that you get some fabric of similar type and test it on that first. I have used it before on a really old medium Alice and it held up good. It is flexible and seal's up just about anything. But make sure you clean it very good let dry then apply it. Hope it will help you .
@@awh5773: Thanks. Have a ALICE large so I'll most likely use the entire can of Flex-Seal.
Number one thng you can do, is put it on a MOLLE frame. It rides higher and closer to the body and has *way* better straps and belt, fir superior weight distribution.
I have thought about that but the regular ALICE frame is working pretty well...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival
It works, thats for sure and has some advantages over the MOLLE, but the MOLLE straps and belt, above all, are soooo much better. I actually like the ALICE frame, but found it easier to put the pack on a MOLLE frame, than to get the MOLLE straps to work right, on the ALICE frame. I also keep my ALICE straps attached direct, for off-frame packing.
Id like to find a way to get it to stand on its own while fully packed...
It will kind of if you have something tied onto the underside...
FloridaBoy Survival
I have a shelf attachment for it, but it still wont stay upright.
FloridaBoy Survival
I ended up modifying the optional frame shelf with some random hardware, and it now stands on its own while fully packed.
I cut a bottom plate from mdf a few years ago. I thought I was a genius x'D
Lol...we are both geniuses then. The bottom plate makes a world of difference...
@@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival It made a huge difference for me! I never had an alice frame. Just the pack. I've moved on to having basic gear in a shoulder bag and sleeping/cooking gear in a bedroll, but I still use the Alice pack for my airsoft gear. Great bag.
What brand is this medium Alice pack?
It is a government issue model...
Why not cut a grill or find one that fits the bottom of the bucket, it would do the same thing plus’s the weep holes will still be open.
True, there are lots of ways to do it