Cheap Bike Vs Super Bike | Do You Really Need A Top Of The Range Mountain Bike?

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • It's not unheard of to spend £10,000/$10,000/€10,000 on an MTB these days. But do you need to spend such astronomical figures? To find out, Neil pitted his thoroughbred Pole Stamina 180, complete with SRAM AXS drivetrain and Trickstuff Direttissima brakes, against his bargain Facebook Marketplace find: the mighty Voodoo Hoodoo. How do the bikes compare? The results may surprise you!
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  • @montypizzle5780
    @montypizzle5780 3 роки тому +620

    This was so well edited and I wasn’t paying attention I didn’t realize they were the same person until the last second 🤣

    • @rev_dude
      @rev_dude 2 роки тому +37

      omg i've watched this video twice and i didnt notice until i read this comment

    • @aftaabaskary
      @aftaabaskary 2 роки тому +10

      yo wtf I literally didn't notice either until i saw this comment lmfao. kudos great editing!

    • @Manny4uel
      @Manny4uel 2 роки тому +3

      😲

    • @AdamzeK
      @AdamzeK 2 роки тому +3

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t notice for a while 😅😅

    • @Simi1.SS06
      @Simi1.SS06 2 роки тому +7

      i thought they were twins XD

  • @ChrisKim-eo9ku
    @ChrisKim-eo9ku 3 роки тому +942

    "Hardtails aren't up to downhill". Blake out here saying "hold my beer"

    • @arifazhari7598
      @arifazhari7598 3 роки тому +22

      Well he said the limit is redbull rampage.

    • @user-nr6dh7li1g
      @user-nr6dh7li1g 3 роки тому +6

      And his hardtail differs pretty much from this one, in price as well

    • @0lioderso
      @0lioderso 3 роки тому +8

      Hold my hardtail* lmao

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 3 роки тому +1

      Arif Azhari well the Rampage is a Freeride event, so still no limit for DH I guess.

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 роки тому +8

      You can do it, if you ride realistically and not like a pro with a disposable bike over a trail that isn't really trail and no one would actually ever ride over on a real ride.

  • @natezab5598
    @natezab5598 3 роки тому +423

    as an American, hearing "pounds per kilogram" made my tiny brain hurt

    • @ghostly_cheese4929
      @ghostly_cheese4929 2 роки тому +5

      Lmao

    • @deanwylie9893
      @deanwylie9893 2 роки тому +23

      Rough translation, Benjamin's per cheeseburger.

    • @andrewince8824
      @andrewince8824 2 роки тому +3

      Translated to simplified English, that's $1.34s per 2.2lbs. 😉

    • @radiocontrolled9181
      @radiocontrolled9181 2 роки тому

      Just like we Europeans hurt our miniature brains when you say the temperature in degrees Fahrenheit 🙂

    • @BatkoBrat
      @BatkoBrat 2 роки тому +2

      @@radiocontrolled9181
      Ahh, Fahrenheit. I think i understand quantum mechanics quite a lot better than good ol' Fahrenheit

  • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
    @Pwn3dbyth3n00b 3 роки тому +539

    Something over 10x the price just to save what 10 seconds on the downhill and have some random guy to ponder stealing the bike? Yeah we all know who won here.

    • @sampovirmasalo9213
      @sampovirmasalo9213 3 роки тому +18

      Yup... the Stamina! 🤘

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 роки тому +57

      Yeah. Like I'm gonna spend 8,000 on a bike just for show. What a wanker.

    • @sampovirmasalo9213
      @sampovirmasalo9213 3 роки тому +3

      @@KandiKlover hahahah hahahahah ha ha hahahahah

    • @alexsavill486
      @alexsavill486 3 роки тому +37

      The one who stole the bike clearly

    • @FlorinGG123
      @FlorinGG123 3 роки тому +2

      The pole

  • @elainedunn1150
    @elainedunn1150 3 роки тому +1628

    you should do a high end hardtail vs a cheap full sus

    • @tombobike
      @tombobike 3 роки тому +55

      That would be really cool

    • @cornishcactus
      @cornishcactus 3 роки тому +63

      I'd add another thumbs up but it's at 69.

    • @capekraken2672
      @capekraken2672 3 роки тому +11

      @@cornishcactus bruh

    • @DilbertMuc
      @DilbertMuc 3 роки тому +3

      They did already.

    • @DilbertMuc
      @DilbertMuc 3 роки тому +1

      @@elainedunn1150 They did, a Canyon Neuron vs. Grand Canyon SLX. These are cheap bikes.

  • @meteturhan3505
    @meteturhan3505 3 роки тому +1483

    This is clearly one of the most well montage'd GMBN video ever.

  • @andrewince8824
    @andrewince8824 3 роки тому +117

    Things like this are great for encouraging newbies. It can be daunting running a £300 second-hand bike when everyone around you has a £3000+ brand new DH rig.

    • @larryhouse8358
      @larryhouse8358 2 роки тому +2

      DH rig for 3000? WHAT YEAR IS THIS!!??? lmao.

    • @andrewince8824
      @andrewince8824 2 роки тому

      @@larryhouse8358 Chain Reaction has the Nukeproof Dissent (Al 29") for £3300 at this point in time and the Vitus Dominer DH is selling for £2800. There are some "budget" DH rigs out there and the Vitus is surprisingly specced out with Boxxer Selects, Guide REs and a GX 7spd groupset. Sunringle wheels and Maxxis DH tyres set it up to be a decent entry DH bike.
      But I get your point, £3000 is just about the cheapest end of the DH market but, at least where I am in Wiltshire (UK), the second-hand market is full of heartbreaking listings, I'm talking custom builds with top end specs going for under £1500. This corner of the world doesn't really warrant big rigs and Enduros are apidly becoming capable of competing with DHs but are easier to live with day to day. We're seeing that reflected in many local shops and online now, people are moving toward hard-core trail bikes and Enduros and it's causing some reasonable offers on the bigger bikes.

    • @FirstnameLastname-pe5ib
      @FirstnameLastname-pe5ib 2 роки тому +1

      @@larryhouse8358 There are a few.

    • @madtownangler
      @madtownangler 2 роки тому +1

      My first races I rode my everyday bike to the race with a lock on the handlebars and a rear rack. Most of the other beginners had $1000+ hardtails (back in the 90's). Beginners my ass.

  • @Mububban23
    @Mububban23 3 роки тому +200

    So many people get hung up on pricing of bikes and yeah it can be crazy expensive, but just ride what you can afford and you’ll still have fun and get fitter. Even if you never stop dreaming about an upgrade 😄

    • @nosey2239
      @nosey2239 3 роки тому +1

      @Spencer Parkin yeah but crap on straights full suspension is awful no speed or nothing

    • @tostadorafuriosa69
      @tostadorafuriosa69 3 роки тому

      i ride my dadls old decathlon full suspension bike that is 16 years old and i have a not of fun.

    • @marcusphoenixish
      @marcusphoenixish 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly it's about having fun. We didn't have all this crazy MTB technology 20 years ago yet we took our bikes to the Cannock chase and still had a good time 🙂

    • @bigmexicanchurro
      @bigmexicanchurro 2 роки тому

      I like it. Keep riding, keep dreamin

    • @Kyle-kc8cw
      @Kyle-kc8cw 2 роки тому

      @@nosey2239 I'd have to put the blame on the rider here. If you're lacking so much speed, until it is significantly slower than a hardtail. The rider is the problem. A hardtail and a full sus, on the same rider should only be seconds apart. I know this because I ride both a hardtail AND a full sus.

  • @gedrot2486
    @gedrot2486 3 роки тому +694

    Counter argument:
    The entry level bike here climbs faster and descends longer for each climb.

    • @DD-sn4iz
      @DD-sn4iz 3 роки тому +56

      lol good point, more and longer to enjoy, why didn't I realize sooner

    • @arifazhari7598
      @arifazhari7598 3 роки тому +64

      Plus if you crash , you start to question your bike choice if you pick the 10.000 one compared to 1000 to 2000 one.

    • @germanywho
      @germanywho 3 роки тому +105

      I anit paying no goddamn 10,000 for a fucking bike even if I was rich,

    • @arifazhari7598
      @arifazhari7598 3 роки тому +24

      @@germanywho you goddamn right. Me too

    • @germanywho
      @germanywho 3 роки тому +7

      @@arifazhari7598 👍🏼 have a great one bro👍🏼

  • @nilshiller3822
    @nilshiller3822 3 роки тому +1991

    Please compare two bikes from the same category.
    For example:
    Cheap Hardtail vs High End Hardtail
    Would be really interesting :)

    • @rockypower5168
      @rockypower5168 3 роки тому +28

      Not really, I upgraded to another hardtail and noticed I could do a lot more than I could ever do on my old bike

    • @rupedog
      @rupedog 3 роки тому +43

      The frame/geo is key...the rest between low and high end is componentry, which wears and can be upgraded

    • @mazdarx-8rotary.97
      @mazdarx-8rotary.97 3 роки тому +16

      Rocky Power it would be an easy conclusion. What’s the point when the voodoo hoodoo is literally £400 and can basically do everything another hardtail suited for the same riding can do.

    • @rockypower5168
      @rockypower5168 3 роки тому +14

      @@mazdarx-8rotary.97 a top end hardtail would have an air fork (makibg it lighter), better quality 1 by drivetrain making it more efficient and a dropper post. Blake made a video about a hardtail with a dropper post and it beat a full sus with the seat up.

    • @mazdarx-8rotary.97
      @mazdarx-8rotary.97 3 роки тому +20

      Rocky Power you do realise the voodoo hoodoo has an air fork right?

  • @PookySharif
    @PookySharif 3 роки тому +31

    I'm embarrassed about how funny I found that Deore/Dior joke. Well played.

  • @marianosanchezpr
    @marianosanchezpr 3 роки тому +164

    So basically you can ride your whole life with "disposable bikes" and still not spend as much. Lol.

    • @dunnotck1
      @dunnotck1 3 роки тому +25

      I've had three cheap bikes from 4 to my now 27 years of life. Two of them I outgrew, the last one I still ride.
      I live in Mexico so it makes no sense to buy an expensive bike that will get stolen within a year.
      Affordable bikes are the way to go, they get the job done.

    • @ojuarapaul
      @ojuarapaul 3 роки тому +9

      dunnotck1 I’m from Brazil, which is as bad as Mexico in which regards to bike safety... now I live in Vancouver, where is just as bad as there... the thing is, in my opinion, you should buy the best bike you can afford, and it should be suitable for what you do. No point to get an expensive bike to commute, and it’s kinda silly to buy a HT when you ride very technical trails (regularly), if you can afford a FS, obviously. In the end, the important thing is having fun ;) Cheers!

    • @droningporsantander9994
      @droningporsantander9994 3 роки тому +5

      Well i got a hardtail..during many yrs ..it took too much abuse on the mountains...so tht "disposable bikes" sounds like an expensive bike seller s argument...

    • @seguntunde6741
      @seguntunde6741 3 роки тому +1

      Disposable bike😆😆😆 you really downgrade my bike because it was cheap

    • @rick4677
      @rick4677 2 роки тому

      your body isn’t disposable and sending a “disposable bike” down downhill tracks is putting your body at risk because the bike is as you say “disposable” and if you’re not doing that stuff than you’re missing out on those fun areas of mountain biking

  • @FredoMarronero
    @FredoMarronero 3 роки тому +963

    Sometimes I forget that they are the same person

  • @jeremie8730
    @jeremie8730 3 роки тому +320

    Next vid: Neil and Neil vs Blake and Blake.
    I highly anticipate this.

    • @mstvir
      @mstvir 3 роки тому +7

      That's in fact most anticipated crossover of the century.

    • @MagniGamer
      @MagniGamer 3 роки тому +1

      That could get complicated really quick lol

    • @valesz4140
      @valesz4140 3 роки тому

      Hahahahahahah

  • @BryanFeedlotstudios
    @BryanFeedlotstudios 3 роки тому +22

    I've always believed its about the rider, upgrade when you are constantly out riding your bike. I bought a Specialized rock hopper two years ago to ride while I was away from home (I couldn't bring my bike with me) that cheap bike hold a few KOMs on the climbs around Sayulita Mexico. The only thing on that bike that i was annoyed with was the entry level Sun tour "suspension".
    So if you feel you can't afford to get in to riding.. think again. buy a bike you can afford and ignore those on carbon bikes because you could end up with better skills than them.

  • @red4life848
    @red4life848 3 роки тому +15

    Got a second hand voodoo hoodoo just like this today for 150 I'm delighted with it 😊

  • @yorkshiremtber7884
    @yorkshiremtber7884 3 роки тому +222

    Loving neils acting 😂🤙🏻

  • @danbradley1537
    @danbradley1537 3 роки тому +190

    Yes! Thank you for showing that you don't need to break the band to get a good bike.

    • @nicksynodinos8581
      @nicksynodinos8581 3 роки тому +15

      Bank*

    • @porkadobo813
      @porkadobo813 3 роки тому +12

      But you need to break your bones to be a better and better rider lol.

    • @bbarker5766
      @bbarker5766 3 роки тому +13

      @@porkadobo813 no that's not a good way to get better but if you think so let us know how it works out for you...

    • @willharrison1176
      @willharrison1176 3 роки тому +3

      Except Halfords

    • @chairmanmeow8388
      @chairmanmeow8388 3 роки тому +7

      @@bbarker5766 The best rider I know has broke most of the bones in his body. He's currently got a snapped collar bone. Don't think that's what made him a good rider, it's probably more because he's a lunatic.

  • @Coolchris158
    @Coolchris158 3 роки тому +5

    I started on a 100mm hard tail and I rode it for 3 years. It taught me a lot of skills that I could transfer to my new 160 full suspension bike. I think hard tails and full sus bikes are so amazing. It doesn't matter what you have. Just go out and ride.

  • @cesarabrego684
    @cesarabrego684 3 роки тому +2

    Such a nice production and edition of the video! Well done, GMBN!

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff 3 роки тому +96

    The best bike is the one you use.
    The better bike is the one you buy from the person who bought top of the range bike for using on ride to work scheme and never used it as the rain put them off..

    • @bonbonflippers4298
      @bonbonflippers4298 3 роки тому +5

      Dave Webster omg this is what I have been thinking about. The best bike to get is the rare finds of someone selling near top of the line for cheap because he needs to get rid of it or is so rich it means little to him.

    • @lNappa
      @lNappa 3 роки тому +2

      I paid 10 pounds for a cube 29er rid it for months then sold on for £350 🤣 yes 10 pounds! I think it was stolen but i weren't asking questions at this price

    • @bonbonflippers4298
      @bonbonflippers4298 3 роки тому +1

      @@lNappa hahaha yeah

  • @liam110885
    @liam110885 3 роки тому +44

    I started on the voodoo hoodoo. Had it for 3 weeks during lockdown to get a feel for mtb, I loved it and now have a whyte T-130 not quite the pole but still a great bike. Been hitting the trails at rogate bike park since getting it. 🤙🏻

    • @chrisstephens6194
      @chrisstephens6194 3 роки тому +2

      Hoodoo's are ok. Won many a budget mtb comparison

    • @cornishcactus
      @cornishcactus 3 роки тому +7

      Did the same as you, dipped my toe in with a 400 quid hardtail, then got the 130.
      For nearly everything UK riding can throw at it you don't need anything more, half of whats left improvement in skill can make up.

  • @bazookabill3081
    @bazookabill3081 3 роки тому +5

    Love how you had to turn the last 2 challenges into a combined time trial so the Pole would win.....

  • @ngenes1
    @ngenes1 2 роки тому

    Now that’s how to do a bike review. Watched and listened to the end. Use this recipe in all your bike reviews. Informative, humor and perspective are spot on!

  • @robinfuchs2263
    @robinfuchs2263 3 роки тому +92

    The only real conclusion for me is: you need more than one bike 😆

    • @Cryton1
      @Cryton1 3 роки тому +7

      n+1

    • @HypnoToad248
      @HypnoToad248 3 роки тому +3

      So youre telling me... I should buy more bikes?

    • @chilljlt
      @chilljlt 3 роки тому

      and maybe few Neils

    • @princeedmunddukeofedinburg
      @princeedmunddukeofedinburg 3 роки тому

      You don't need any of that.

    • @INTEL965GAMES
      @INTEL965GAMES 3 роки тому

      I HAVE 2 BIKES LOL........ONE MOONGOOSE XR-PRO AND A CHEAP TREK 3X7 SPEED............................................................BUT IN THE END THE TREK IS MOST LIGHTWEIGHT THAN THE FCK MOONGOOSE 3X8 SPEED....................LOL...............................XC BIKES WON...................................................But in the descend and brakes i feel more good on the moongose.................

  • @just4usmtbadventures762
    @just4usmtbadventures762 3 роки тому +10

    I think what matters most is go out, get a bike, and ride. Make sure the bike fits you and your riding style and just RIDE!

  • @JuicyFruityify
    @JuicyFruityify 3 роки тому +1

    I have a '99 Specialized FSR XC, silver, completely stock. The lines are so clean, it's an amazing looking bike. It never leaves my side when I'm out and has always been kept inside my room. I raced it in a Duathlon 3 years ago. I had tons of people ask me what it was and if it was new. It was almost 20 years old at that point but it's in mint condition. The aesthetics, the beauty of the design along with fitness for purpose shouldn't be underestimated when you are purchasing a bike.✨

  • @Latchfpv
    @Latchfpv 3 роки тому

    Amazing how well Neil plays off of Neil, some real good editing there all told (apart from the wheel overlap at the beginning, but hell, that's the most minor thing). This was a delightful video. That cheap ole hardtail is pretty capable.

  • @hazmanification
    @hazmanification 3 роки тому +34

    One of your best videos Neil, loved the acting 😄

  • @nicktodoroff7836
    @nicktodoroff7836 3 роки тому +6

    What an awesome video - the acting, editing, splicing, all superb. Best one yet GMBN!!!

  • @murkysubstance3929
    @murkysubstance3929 3 роки тому

    It's nice to see this channel championing cheap mtb riding for a change. Usually they just put out videos trying to relate to all skill levels whilst wearing and riding high end kit as if everyone should have it.

  • @Mrhadatte
    @Mrhadatte 3 роки тому +2

    That camera work on the descending?! Top notch.

  • @chad.haggerty
    @chad.haggerty 3 роки тому +8

    Appreciate the content and have to give a big thanks to the cameramen. The shots you lot put into a fun little video are amazing.

  • @sultanabran1
    @sultanabran1 3 роки тому +84

    i'm not saying i wouldn't go for the pole, but £10k for 12 seconds faster over a £375. which means, it's 100% rider and 0% bike

    • @connors3807
      @connors3807 3 роки тому +11

      12 second is a lot when it comes to racing

    • @ulukai_555
      @ulukai_555 3 роки тому

      @@connors3807 It'd be interesting a run with two hardtails or two full sus

    • @darnokregrer3575
      @darnokregrer3575 3 роки тому +9

      @sultanabran1
      It's exactly the opposite - same rider for both runs, so 100% bike. Especially in racing it's all about pushing the limits of your capability and of the gear, which is totally different for these two bikes.
      But I agree, for anything other than racing, the Pole is probably overkill. ;-)

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 3 роки тому +4

      Darnok Regrer I have a $500 gt aggressor and I outride everyone I know. My roomate can’t keep up with his Santa Cruz so having a good bike doesn’t translate into being a good rider.

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 3 роки тому +2

      bananas stuff damn dawg ur butt hurt as hell

  • @shamoy1000
    @shamoy1000 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. Great advice. Really love the end summary.

  • @FifthOfNovember_Original
    @FifthOfNovember_Original 3 роки тому

    I really, really appreciate the directing & editing quality of this video.

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @istillhavetenfingers8150
    @istillhavetenfingers8150 3 роки тому +3

    This is easily my favorite video of Neil, he seems to be doing a similar video style to Blake but at the same time making it unique to him. Really hope I get to meet you soon, Neil!!

  • @jackhobson4391
    @jackhobson4391 3 роки тому +4

    One of the best videos GMBN have ever made in my opinion

  • @ojuarapaul
    @ojuarapaul 3 роки тому

    Very interesting and unbiased comparison (and conclusions). Every bike has its purposes and there’s no point in getting a very expensive full suspension bike when you mostly commute or XC. On the other hand, if you enjoy freeride, big jumps or a technical downhill, that’s the way to go.
    One of the best videos I’ve ever seen about cheap vs expensive bikes! Well done!

  • @tommoritz6659
    @tommoritz6659 3 роки тому +5

    Kudos to the production team on this one. Very creative and informative. I'm still a believer that hardtails require more technical skill that can be transferred to full sus. I don't think there's much skill transfer the other way around.

  • @runerides8762
    @runerides8762 3 роки тому +15

    I went from a super high end bulls duro hardtail (around €3400 all including) to a entry leveled specialized fuse (paid €825 for it) and it was the best choice I ever made!! Soo much more fun on the fuse.

  • @ytcdgwave7297
    @ytcdgwave7297 3 роки тому +29

    I actually won my school's mtb event on a Voodoo Maji 2018. I was against a lot of £3000+ bikes so it was tough, but wasn't impossible.

    • @leevi_ml1520
      @leevi_ml1520 3 роки тому +9

      What the heck. A school mtb event!

    • @ytcdgwave7297
      @ytcdgwave7297 3 роки тому

      Yeah whats wrong with that?

    • @leevi_ml1520
      @leevi_ml1520 3 роки тому +7

      @@ytcdgwave7297 nothing. That's just pretty cool

    • @ytcdgwave7297
      @ytcdgwave7297 3 роки тому

      Thanks! Sorry i thought you were being toxic, my bad.

    • @Eagle_data
      @Eagle_data 3 роки тому +1

      @@ytcdgwave7297 where do you live here in Albania the first and last mountain bike event was 4 years ago.Ridiculous!😂

  • @AlexPTwigg-ql3ci
    @AlexPTwigg-ql3ci 3 роки тому

    I think this is the most well performed video I have seen Neil do. Loved it.

  • @vonderalm628
    @vonderalm628 3 роки тому +1

    having an awesome time watching this.love this guy

  • @Silviu.
    @Silviu. 3 роки тому +9

    Love the video, the script and the editing on this one. Keeping it pretty funny, not too serios, because mtb-ing in general is about fun.

  • @devincook3278
    @devincook3278 3 роки тому +8

    “Take that posh-boy” 🤣😂

  • @englishmtbinfrance3572
    @englishmtbinfrance3572 3 роки тому

    Loved this and we never get to see Neil acting like this. Such good fun !
    Spot on with what was said too, if it wasnt for my hard tail I wouldnt be where I am now thanks to this channel and my hard tail in obsessed with the world of MTB. Hoping by next year I'll have a Canyon strive

  • @TheSlowworms
    @TheSlowworms 3 роки тому +10

    This is great! 🤣
    I really like my Voodoo Hoodoo, it can be a little bit embarrassing at times but it’s better than not having a bike

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  3 роки тому +14

      No need to be embarrassed!

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 3 роки тому +1

      They are a fantastic bike, way way better than any old clunker, you can't go wrong with hydraulic brakes 👍

    • @reddieseled
      @reddieseled 3 роки тому +2

      Nothing wrong with having top spec at a much lower price. Saves having to pay 750-800

    • @enjoylife756
      @enjoylife756 2 роки тому

      @@gmbn But then again u guys dont really use those cheap bike ever.. so it is easy to say that because u cant get any bike that u want...like on Pole or another 9k bike every day for riding. You dont have to pay anything

  • @jimbobikes966
    @jimbobikes966 3 роки тому +9

    i have taken my entry level hard tail down a lift access downhill park and i love my bike

    • @harryrichards4654
      @harryrichards4654 3 роки тому +2

      I took a btwin rockrider wich cost £100 new to the alps

    • @davidbronstein2040
      @davidbronstein2040 3 роки тому +4

      I've been riding an old hardtail in the bush near my house, it's been amazing to stop sometimes to watch Kangaroos and Black Cockatoos in their homes. You don't need an expensive bike to experience the beauty of the outdoors.

    • @joewas2225
      @joewas2225 3 роки тому

      I've taken my hardtail many places. Love it & only was $750. Hardtail for the win.

  • @woozertoo
    @woozertoo 3 роки тому +68

    See how quick Cheap Neil released his seat post for that descent? Dropper posts be damned.

    • @MawoDuffer
      @MawoDuffer 3 роки тому +18

      The problem I run in to is that my local trails go up and down several times so if I drop my regular seat post I can’t get it back up without stopping

    • @MisoElEven
      @MisoElEven 3 роки тому

      I think the problem is getting it back up not getting it down in the first place though..

    • @wibblywobblyidiotvision
      @wibblywobblyidiotvision 3 роки тому +3

      @@MisoElEven Getting it up is often a problem.

    • @dadventuretv2538
      @dadventuretv2538 3 роки тому +2

      😂😂😂 get a dropper, discover the difference.

    • @MrDutto
      @MrDutto 3 роки тому +1

      @@wibblywobblyidiotvision viagra

  • @Ghost-em4st
    @Ghost-em4st 3 роки тому +6

    2:33 best part of the whole video (Finland)

  • @d0gbackwards1
    @d0gbackwards1 3 роки тому +1

    The visuals at the start.... just 👌🏼

  • @davehodgkiss5375
    @davehodgkiss5375 3 роки тому +26

    I ride a Voodoo Bizango and can keep up with my mate on pretty much most stuff while he's on his 3k Cannondale! 😁Great video!

    • @OxBlitzkriegxO
      @OxBlitzkriegxO 3 роки тому +5

      Says more about the rider and less about the bike

    • @kierondurrant6320
      @kierondurrant6320 3 роки тому +4

      Voodoo bizango is a bloody brilliant bike mate

    • @davehodgkiss5375
      @davehodgkiss5375 3 роки тому

      @@OxBlitzkriegxO maybe but we are in our late 40s 🤣🤣

    • @themussile3335
      @themussile3335 3 роки тому

      Love my bizango with the exception of the bottom bracket which lasted no time at all

    • @redbrickpie5064
      @redbrickpie5064 3 роки тому +1

      I have a bizango and bloody love it! Took it to the bike park recently and left all the guys on there expensive bikes behind 😜

  • @FatBoy0409
    @FatBoy0409 3 роки тому +52

    At no point did I think Neil was going to let the cheap bike win over his personal 9k bike 😂

    • @rupedog
      @rupedog 3 роки тому +3

      Pole supply the channel...so I am assuming 'personal'...if he leaves gmbn I expect they will want the bikes back!!! Could be wrong, maybe he got it on bike to work scheme 😁

    • @liam321995
      @liam321995 3 роки тому +2

      Pretty sure he owns the voodoo as well? Did a video where he bought it off pinkbike?

    • @enjoylife756
      @enjoylife756 2 роки тому

      @@liam321995 What? Are u serious? Did he said that he really owns that Pole...not. I dont mean that he could not buy one and cheao woodoo too but what is the point? He does tons of videos and in every video is mostly high spec bike and each time different bran....,hardtail/FS/e- FS or whatever. Nobody normal person dont have money to put like 100k or more bikes/year and if so it would be really pointless. Thruth is that these all are demo bikes,no need to own them or buy them!

  • @gabogalaiz
    @gabogalaiz 3 роки тому

    Finally some truthful video, no more rushing for a high expensive bike

  • @ronaldhennig5445
    @ronaldhennig5445 3 роки тому

    Brilliant, love the effects and editing

  • @ajack6521
    @ajack6521 3 роки тому +6

    Never thought i'd see a straight tube fork

  • @BMEEyeCoach
    @BMEEyeCoach 3 роки тому +4

    I love my hard tail Specialized. I am a climber more than a downhiller on my bike. I’m leaving my downhill speed for my skis! Great video because you talked me out of a up grade! Maybe a dropper post will be my upgrade? Thank you

  • @themeparktom98
    @themeparktom98 3 роки тому

    Loved this video and really well edited together

  • @tam7933
    @tam7933 3 роки тому

    The amount of effort I can imagine was put into this video is kind of incredible

  • @kieranrae
    @kieranrae 3 роки тому +6

    brilliant stuff, really encouraging for beginners to the sport seeing the cheap hardtail do so well! Neil is one of the best presenters on here, love his vids.

  • @greengonzonz
    @greengonzonz 3 роки тому +7

    I can't pick. The Pole is so beautiful (wouldn't mind one in my garage) but, I have eternal love for the hardtail.

    • @mazdarx-8rotary.97
      @mazdarx-8rotary.97 3 роки тому

      Pick whichever one you can afford

    • @Polebicycles
      @Polebicycles 3 роки тому

      Good news to you! We also have a hardtail called Taival, which shares some of the characteristics found in Stamina 180. And it's made from steel.

  • @night1ish
    @night1ish 3 роки тому

    Great video. Funny to see that side of Neil. Plus that downhill footage of the Pole was unreal

  • @pchittum
    @pchittum 2 роки тому

    I love my Hoodoo. I still have it after I upgraded to a full sus bike. They’re both fun, for each their own reasons. Great video.

  • @U012
    @U012 3 роки тому +9

    That was a great video, Neil!

  • @anthonywalters7434
    @anthonywalters7434 3 роки тому +3

    I could find a difference right a way when I rode an AM/Enduro the first time, I was able to go faster than I can on my hardtail. Maybe it was the 2.4 in tires, or the slacker geo, or the fact that it isn’t a two year old clapped out Rockhopper, but I was significantly faster on my easy home trails.

  • @gordonaudley4097
    @gordonaudley4097 3 роки тому

    Great editing on this video! Nice one!

  • @Jester626
    @Jester626 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to know i just bought a voodoo hoodoo and love it, glad its capable of the harder downhill stuff

  • @lewissmith9761
    @lewissmith9761 3 роки тому +11

    If you ride a lot though it’s kind of nice to have a good bike

    • @philldavies7940
      @philldavies7940 2 роки тому

      That's the motto of the bike thief. "Who wants to pinch a cheap bike when with the same effort and risk, you can pinch an expensive beauty".

  • @twinnedsuns
    @twinnedsuns 3 роки тому +3

    I ride a 2017 Voodoo Bizango, albeit a heavily modified version running a 140mm fork up front, and it will handle literally anything I will throw at it. I love this bike, and I can’t see myself ever getting rid of it, even when the next bike inevitably comes along!

    • @danmccabe2004
      @danmccabe2004 3 роки тому +1

      What fork have you put on it?

    • @mazdarx-8rotary.97
      @mazdarx-8rotary.97 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah I got a hoodoo and my next mods gonna be the forks. Nothing wrong with the ones on it just want more travel.

    • @JamezDragon
      @JamezDragon 3 роки тому +2

      @@mazdarx-8rotary.97 same

    • @twinnedsuns
      @twinnedsuns 3 роки тому +1

      @Daniel McCabe, it’s a new model Suntour Raidon. 34mm stanchions, 140mm travel- way stiffer than the standard Raidon. Allows me to run a boost front wheel, too. Currently building up a pair of Hope Pro 4 hubs laced to Hope Tech Enduro rims. Love this bike!

    • @danmccabe2004
      @danmccabe2004 3 роки тому +1

      @@twinnedsuns nice I have the latest bizango is a good bike for an entry level hardtail

  • @OktaFierce
    @OktaFierce 3 роки тому

    Up there among the best GMBN vids.

  • @zachdawson2744
    @zachdawson2744 3 роки тому +2

    Love the video guys! Just one thing I was thinking of... alot of people (including myself) just ride for fun and could care less about ride times. Would you recommend maybe a mid tier bike rather then a cheap hardtail that requires lots of maintenance?

  • @mamAmojj
    @mamAmojj 3 роки тому +3

    Brilliant stuff Neil :D:D

  • @richburmond6761
    @richburmond6761 3 роки тому +6

    Picked up a giant fathom 2 for 800 euros and it is fine

  • @curtisf.r6233
    @curtisf.r6233 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video Neil, thanks dude! Makes up for the lack of "Haaacks n Bodges" singing 💯👊😎 also, I feel much better now about my brand new swanky bike! a £400 HT☺

  • @reg171reg
    @reg171reg 3 роки тому

    Not sure why this came up on my feed but I enjoyed it.
    Great camera work!

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  3 роки тому

      Hey, thanks Shane!

  • @st.vicious
    @st.vicious 3 роки тому +4

    Its not how expensive or cheap the bike is.. Its about passion and love for what you are doing..

  • @sduoqsoq7478
    @sduoqsoq7478 3 роки тому +188

    when the cheap bike is expensive for you
    Edit: how did i get so much likes damn pretty cool lol also its funny how they buy hardtrails for 3000 euros and sometimes call it a cheap hardtail

    • @DinnerForkTongue
      @DinnerForkTongue 3 роки тому +32

      For me a £600 bike is a big commitment.

    • @alundavies8402
      @alundavies8402 3 роки тому +4

      Me too

    • @arifazhari7598
      @arifazhari7598 3 роки тому +5

      Especially in my country. 600 Euro is pretty much the bike in store that sell far better than 1000 to 2000 Euro bike.

    • @arifazhari7598
      @arifazhari7598 3 роки тому +2

      @deadend yes of course. But in my country some of employees on bike store actually got their "company bike" to use in event. Pretty much the perk orlf working on bike industry. This bike was a few years old trail bike.

    • @lazar1239
      @lazar1239 3 роки тому +10

      300 euros is a month salary in my country ...

  • @xcnewb7313
    @xcnewb7313 3 роки тому

    You really see Neil's personality come out here, great work guys!

  • @willbmtb8937
    @willbmtb8937 3 роки тому

    I started on the same Voodoo, I loved it. Put correct amount of Air in my fork and put on a dropper and it was great.

  • @mtbguy8365
    @mtbguy8365 3 роки тому +8

    I starting to mtb a bike from 700€ i drive it for almost 5 years with that money that i save now i have a mtb from 1,200€ and evry year i dont lost any money with that money i can upgrade my mtb

  • @karldeveza6436
    @karldeveza6436 3 роки тому +3

    You know, the best bike you have is the one you have now. Happy rides everyone!!

  • @Murray_23
    @Murray_23 3 роки тому

    This is a cracking video, great job gmbn 🤟😎

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  3 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @djsonfire0001
    @djsonfire0001 3 роки тому +1

    I ride a cheaper hard tail. Just upgraded all components... If I do get a crazy expensive bike I'll know what I like setup and measurement wise. Great video! Thanks

  • @seanglysing6913
    @seanglysing6913 3 роки тому +9

    Damn the editor deserves a 🏆

    • @joeshmoe7967
      @joeshmoe7967 3 роки тому +4

      Let's not forget the camera guy/DP . Look at the the motion shots. Combined with great editing made a very pro looking production.
      Also props to the sound crew.

  • @mikethomson6864
    @mikethomson6864 3 роки тому +4

    I find the sweet spot is about $1500-$2000 for a hardtail or $2500-$3000 for a full suspension.
    Spend more if you have money to burn, spend less if you're just starting out and plan to upgrade as you progress.

  • @Mattventuring
    @Mattventuring 3 роки тому

    There is also the pleasure in getting the most out of yours skills. I rode those trails on a full dh bike and it was faster but too easy in a way so less adrenaline and fun

  • @MrBillDaBear
    @MrBillDaBear 3 роки тому +1

    Love Neil's enthusiasm in this LOL

  • @luffynelblogs7914
    @luffynelblogs7914 3 роки тому +3

    Im 16😁...1×8 32t oval 11-40t sunrace cogs is pretty good

  • @alfiewilkinson5329
    @alfiewilkinson5329 3 роки тому +38

    It took me about 5 minutes to resize that there the same person 😂

    • @pandadanda1850
      @pandadanda1850 3 роки тому +2

      i didnt the whole video thought they were brothers. i was more concentrated on the bikes

    • @coolhead123
      @coolhead123 3 роки тому +1

      Neil meme

    • @no-eb2xx
      @no-eb2xx 3 роки тому +1

      Resize? What...

    • @shubham_mtb4961
      @shubham_mtb4961 2 роки тому +1

      there are two types of people 1. who realize 2. who resize

  • @LuluBejot
    @LuluBejot 3 роки тому

    ❤️🔥 That’s a great mtb video to watch! I just subscribed to your channel.
    Keep it up 🥰🤟🏼

  • @nagylevi3827
    @nagylevi3827 2 роки тому

    I'm a lifelong road bike enthusiast, currently in the market for an MTB. As a beginner in the field, I completely agree: a cheap second hand bike is the perfect machine to introduce me to the world of trail climbing and descending and of course it's perfect to crash with, something that will inevitably occur.
    informative, entertaining video. Good work.

  • @vladmarcu225
    @vladmarcu225 3 роки тому +5

    Great location ! Where was this filmed ?

    • @Linkgu4rd
      @Linkgu4rd 3 роки тому +1

      Looks like the Forest of Dean in the UK.

  • @jasonw7053
    @jasonw7053 3 роки тому +7

    The voodoo hoodoo is great, fun bike fun name whats not to like!

    • @hueygreenwood9581
      @hueygreenwood9581 3 роки тому +2

      the fact it’s shite

    • @jasonw7053
      @jasonw7053 3 роки тому +3

      @@hueygreenwood9581 for the price not really

    • @stuarttierney6678
      @stuarttierney6678 3 роки тому

      There not great quality long term
      Bought a bizango for my eldest son and have replaced every bearing on it and the free hub in just under 2 years

  • @calebcole3252
    @calebcole3252 3 роки тому

    That was a great vid. Great points made.

  • @wasimakeel8394
    @wasimakeel8394 3 роки тому +1

    one of the best videos GMBN made

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn  3 роки тому

      Thanks!

  • @limaturskiainen
    @limaturskiainen 3 роки тому +3

    IM from Finland and they do really sterdy bikes

  • @ananthkutuva3748
    @ananthkutuva3748 3 роки тому +4

    8:37 Where's the derailleur and chain!?

  • @jodyharrell2316
    @jodyharrell2316 2 роки тому

    That was super cool. I needed that video. Neals are super cool.

  • @zoesometimesfilmsthings9804
    @zoesometimesfilmsthings9804 3 роки тому +2

    Not gonna lie desirability is pretty great for bikes. When I'm having a bad day and messing up trails, someone saying my bike is a real nice bit of kit puts a smile on my face because I love it