Chinese-built Angolan city feels like a ghost town
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2012
- Chinese companies have built cities out of the bush in Angola, but they have few residents. CNN's David McKenzie reports.
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This way of reporting demonstrates how low some of the western media can be.
I guess some western media like CNN and BBC are going nuts rn, I can understand the bias and deviation but every news they post about china recently are nonsense and absurd, without any evidence they claimed that china have a nuclear leakage rn.
The white pigs need to sell lies and fake news to make a living
I was thinking the same thing.
So, according to them the people of Angola should have stayed with no housing...
#proud of Angola government for this move!
Not really, I had the privilege to work with people from Tanzania, Moçambique and Kenya. They don’t know each other, but they all said one common theme, their country cannot afford to contain and maintain whatever project or construction and therefore the Chinese will take over according to apparently some agreement. They all feel like that the Chinese know that they can’t afford it and yet still went ahead to persuade the local government to agree to this. It almost feels like that they did it on purpose
The ghost town mentioned in the video now has 100,000 residents (2014). New town needs time to be populated. WHAT A PROPAGANDA FROM WESTERN AGAIN!
that's 1/5 of the original design capacity and that was AFTER the government basically subsidized people moving in. The issue is that there is no economy with jobs that would allow the people to pay for it themselves.
Raul Gallegos unless you can provide better deal to the blacks, you have to bear the shit
Raul Gallegos Laugh my ass off! Mr.Incrediable , pls save the universe!!!
I'm genuinely curious (not trying to start anything), but why are you calling it "propaganda"? At worst it's just a private company pandering to naive people to make money and at best it's just an outdated story. There's no greater evil at work here, at least not one that I can see. Care to enlighten me otherwise?
CNN is a private company not the mouthpiece of some evil Western conspiracy (which is what OP is implying). What I meant by "pandering" is essentially what you said about sensationalism.
I don't get the message CNN is aiming at here. Angola has had a relationship with the west for over 50 years with the same old problems. They've had a relationship with China for a little over 10 years and the infrastructure is improving. I do believe China have a strategy behind their charity though...instead of aid USA should have been doing things like this. Great foreign policy for china.
Wow, that's the first time in a long time that I've seen someone with an American flag as their profile pic come on comment on a video about Africa and not immediately spew out some racist memes.
CNN is Fake News.
Simplest expression that can be said to express what is shown in this video.
Not so fun fact: colonial America was built on the backs of 1,000s of Angolans kidnapped and sold into slavery.
Do you really believe that a dictatorship like China is doing this out of love for people? Give me a break!
USA and the colonizers-Brits very useless.They poke noses into African affairs but development wise eg building roads,railways...they will show us their back but give us foods that must have the logo 'AID'..Infact Britain should be the one Sponsoring the African countries it colonized but it's one useless country that tends to start speaking due to Chinese influence in Africa
I will believe CNN when the sun stops shining.
dude, they are literally telling brainless stories created by their imagination.
*China builds towns that they haven't started moving people into yet*
The West: "ITS A GHOST TOWN 😱😱😱👻👻👻"
Lol.
Devante Swang, I wanna that picture on your profile, buddy.
Where can I find ?
Facts
The West only want to colonize Africa not build their infraestructure like China.
@@fabiojr8082 Then why you all come to the West for a better life ?
Dear CNN, shut us all up by visiting this housing estate again. We want to know if it grown into a bush because of lack of occupants or otherwise!
Kilamba today is a thriving city with lots of residents.
It has shops, restaurants supermarkets and a shopping center with cinema.
I play basketball almost everyday in one of its many sports courts.
This video is outdated.
We are still waiting for them to visit.
Ghost City with 200 000 habitants
Most people commenting don't know jack about Angola, the city already has tons of people living there. I'm in Angola at the moment and I can see the progress!
Typical western media,lol
With all the implied talk of China colonizing Africa, what irony it is that in the background of this report we can see a De Beers sign 1:18
Total western propaganda
This was reported 2012. I was working in Angola for 4 years and before I left Angola a lot of people were already transferring in Kilamba Kiaxi. For the record, the GenCon of Kilamba Kiaxi is CITIC Construction and our country is in the Construction Management side. We even play during weekend in some basketball court in Kilamba Kiaxi with the Angolan locals. It just took some time for people to move in there because a lot of people wanted to buy a unit in this place. and take note this is only Phase 1 as I remember there is other 3-4 phase of the construction for Kilamba Kiaxi.
Is CNN ever going to revisit the site and admit they were wrong?
Poor Europeans, this is an unimaginable way of development. If you don’t understand, you can see how the so-called Chinese ghost town turned into a prosperous city.
Western people think the rest of world should live in jungles so that they can have a safari in their vocation. So when China built a railway there, they will say: " China want the resource ". When China build a power plant they will say:" it cause pollution." When China build a factory they will say:" China just want cheap labor to build craps". When China build a city they will say:" come on these black people does not need cities, they need clay house".
We Chinese has developed from one of the poorest country of the world till now, our infrastructures are 20 years ahead of USA in our developed areas. With our government bearing the worst curses and infamous, horrible names of abuse human rights for 66 years till now. And the western story goes on.....
amber lopez nobody cares about you, by the way, you are not american. Real Americans were slaughtered by the whites and now those slave Traders declare themselves : human rights protector. Fuck you
he did't get your humor, lol
God will bless China for this, for the past 30 years all the world is watching starvation, drought and perpetual war in Africa, today is a different day when we witness Africans are living in modern harmony
Amber Lopez immigrant from Honduras fuck you.
y gs its has been predicted by many economists that the 21st century will be a Chinese century.
This documentary was released here on 2012... so now we are in 2019 and the situation in Kilamba is very different. However, the citizens of Kilamba have issues with drinking water, public illumination and sewage systems. Hope that they get better in the next months...
and now there's a lot of people living there 😂
8 years old news, I lived there for a few years and there isn't a single empty apartment, they all sold out.
Those buildings look brand new of course no one lives in them yet. GTFOH
ITS FULL NOW.....EVERYONE IS EMPLOYED,,,LIFE IS GOOD,,,,,FOOD IS GOOD......COUNTRY IS BOOMING....
Shut up! Hard crises in Angola nowadays you have no idea...
is this Sarcasm??
CNN now has egg on their face. It’s now a vibrant city who is expanding rapidly
West country woulid love to see Africa to stay primitive so that they can exploit their resource and cheap labor to maintain their high living standard. While the Chinese develop African infrasturcture, and also do business with African to import their resource at market price. It's very important for African countries to have good road, railway, power station to grow their economy.
With respect to my Chinese friend... Africa will break your heart and your wallet. You invest so much in these countries.... Just like the west did. China is trying to exploit them too. It will all come to nothing. It will all turn to dust unless the Chinese stay there forever to maintain all that you build for them. They will start to hate you because they cannot do these things themselves.... They will kick you out and those fancy power stations you build for them will break from lack of knowledge and maintenance and be stripped of their copper and sold for scrap metal. You can import Chinese technology to Africa... You cannot import Chinese culture.
@@fresatx Sorry you are mixing things up, exploitation is not investment. European colonialists don't invest in Africa. They loot it, they even prefer it under conflicts with no stable governements so they can plunder well. I don't say Chinese are better but at least they build infrastructure and don't interfere with local politics, they don't even impose their culture. Also they don't build military bases in other people's land
@@samorisystems6604 Well I will grant you this.... The Europeans were amateurs compared to the Chinese. The Chinese are doing colonialism the right way. The Europeans sought to Christianize/civilize Africa... the Chinese are under no such illusions. They will fuck the (average) Africans out of their natural resources with slow methodical precision. They will payoff the despotic leaders without a drop of guilt. At least they will bring some order to the place. I respect the Chinese.. they don't have any sentimentality about taking advantage of the Africans.
@@samorisystems6604 ua-cam.com/video/UPt9pGfpmS0/v-deo.html
@@fresatx on needing the Chinese to maintain the city. Don't be so negative. What is needed is for the locals to step up. Surely there will be carpenters, plumbers etc doing the maintenance work. The city will create jobs and start an economy.
Kilamba neighborhood is full of people now, billions of people, and Luanda City it’s getting crowed to the point that is annoying to live there, I don’t live in my hometown anymore, I’m in NYC. Y’all gotta know that Kilamba was empty in 2013 because it was new, everyone was living in the city and villages
Want to make a follow up report to these ghost cities? Or feeling ashamed to get slapped on the face?
Go back to sleep now David. It's 2016 and those house are full now.
Are you sure? ;-) These ghost towns are a bit everywhere.
John Clauss
2022 and the population in kilamba is +130k
CNN again, no surprise
so you go there when the houses are just finished and people haven't moved in yet, and pretend that nobody can afford it...
Amy Ding The only people who can will be rich foreigners who have investments. They arent building for most Angolans.
+Nakupenda wewe shut the fuck up n stop talking what u dnt know .... it is now full and 96 %of the flats are awned by Angolans citizens
Housing complex under construction or near finish are the videos you see in western media - hence the ghost town. Most of them are NOT sold yet or not finished for moving in. It's how we do things here in China as well, a residential complex consists of many buildings of different functions (such as recreational facilities, restaurants, convenient stores, supermarkets, schools, health centers etc.) and they all need to be finished before handing to owners. It's an ecosystem. Showing the images of unfinished projects not only biased but also naive.
I don't like this kind of reporting; it's both negative and half-baked. This place is booming and well populated. This is BAD reporting.
CNN is Fake News.
Talent Chitsaka: It's not bad reporting, the white racist South African reporter knows exactly what he's doing. Here's what this place looks like now. ua-cam.com/video/WDzs_rzXvis/v-deo.html
Don't worry this place will be occupied in no time.
Hahaha. ....propaganda at its height. ..
Jealousy is real for sure😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂look at a westerners media broadcasting that now an African country is building a city by china a.k.a a ghost city blah blah blah😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
China us not only helping Africa but all undeveloped countries move forward and be some independent. Go China!
"However, despite the slow start, new legislation signed into law by dos Santos resulted in a massive boom in demand. Prices of the smallest units were reduced from US $125,000 to $70,000. The population increased to 40,000 residents in September 2013, and 80,000 in July 2015" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilamba
Because China built buildings faster than the residents who occupied them, unlike America, which built a railroad network from the Cowboy era that had not been completed until now
The prices for those apartments are absurd.
how would you even know? 🤡 typical western arrogance
As an angolan, I can assure Kilamba is NOT a ghost town....😂😂😂
ua-cam.com/video/qZfN9M8hPlI/v-deo.html
I don't know how many people are living in Kilamba now. But just I took a look at Google satellite map, and saw the huge number of cars parked in the city. Anyone can tell it's not a ghost city. CNN really made a big joke! Wish all people live happily in the new city!
A city has to grow like from a seed to a tree. It should never be built all at once which will deny residents, architects and urban designers a chance to add their vision one building to one city block at a time. Cities that are not planned out in advanced are often more beautiful and better suited to meet the needs of it's citizens.
The only reason, why cities weren't built at once was bcuz of lack of resources, take for instance, wouldn't u build ur house in a month if u had the money to do so?
Big project has a way of reducing costs. That's the idea.
@@ramonching7772 There's also because you build it ahead before the people, you can plan it to be beautiful, efficient and with provisions for everything like parks, business districts, schools, hospitals being situated strategically.
I love how the West always there ready to criticize other people's work but not doing anything themselves
At least China builds Infrastructure and not destroy's them like the West.
It may take time but it will work.what i hate though is africa giving even the basics of jobs like construction to china.you mean to tell me no africa,better angolan can build that.c'mon
its already worked...now its sold out...infact it is over filled am from there...
I hate their poverty stricken narrative.
This is old new it is now filled with people lmfao go Africa go
Don't you mean, Go China Go?
Yea...filled with foreigners that can afford it...or the ppl of Portugal leaving their country and relocating there.
@@kevinthomas522 no there are actual Angolans living in Kilamba, i have several family members living there.
@@missme9650 ....well it made news a few months back that more people of Angola that are moving to Portugal....why
@@kevinthomas522 economic issues, so people immigrate but what does that have to do with the people living in Kilamba.
Well this cnn story went sour, these town are thriving and full now
Chinese did the same in Canada they came to Canada now everybody is living in tent cities or on the streets young Canadian people are working 2-3 jobs just to pay rent and to buy a home or apartment is out of the question.
Thank you for everyone in the international Comunity that can see the hypocrisy that this video shows, let me tell you that kilamba is fully inhabited since 2013 and there are still a few free appartments but its alive like all parts of the province/State.
It's called Planter Boxes outside your windows for pots and plants and flowers. Think a little harder before criticizing.
These buildings won't last long if the Chinese have built them. Their manufactures are dreadful.
Lol, how long do you wish to live in an old house? A century?
I'm angolan, it was on the beginning of the building. Now it is full of people.
@Cloudy it was built by Chineses but the government sold to us I mean public sector employees are paying, we pay in 20 or 25 years every month 40% of our salary has been discounted or debited for those houses. Still building more, but not everyone got it, very difficult to get house, because million of people apply.
The West is dying with envy.
trush me , in 10 years , this city will filled with people.
Well, apparently all the apartments sold out last year.
It’s not a ghost town, they built it in order to waste the country resources, that costed 3 billions n now the country is in a desperate situation, again those foreigner will come with the most amazing solution by offering to buy all those those residential building that is impossible for an angola citizen to buy, n move halve of their billion population inside our space....to my Angolan government please think of our kids, we tired of this, first Europe did what they did to us for 700 hundred years, no pay or restoration for the blood n sacrifice of our people n now we are opening the doors for history to repeat itself. We need time to re-educate ourself in all aspects of life from our resources, culture, technology, medicine, and people. There is power in knowledge n Angola can help the world, but first we have to help ourselves.....
just FYI, when this video was shot, construction was not completed and residents are not allowed to move in yet. what a joke
This is now a thriving development.
When its negativity u can expect its western media
I see the same gigantic, rows and rows of empty apartment buildings throughout China.
rmwtsou That's because those types of megacity planning rarely, if not ever, happen in other countries. Chinese government planned way ahead for its people. They have 5 year plans and actually make them work. The migration of people from rural areas to urbanized cities started a long time ago. Those people will be living in those "ghost cities", with the shopping malls, hospitals, schools and offices all put to use. Saying there are rows and rows of empty apartment buildings throughout China is a remark quite outdated, I believe. Reality will prove those thoughts wrong.
+Igor König Your knowledge of what differentiates good from bad is sadly limited, or should I say too extreme. Having an open mind is vital to analyze and understand anything perceptively. After all, nothing is absolute in life.
I'm not saying everything about communism is perfect or ideal. There are, however, some positive traits that simply aren't present in a democratic system. For example, in China, CCP has shown heightened productivity, (Very different than where I live. There are simply way too many school strikes here. It significantly compromises the quality of education many students receive. School shuts down every time teachers aren't satisfied with pays? That's completely ignorant of the impact these job actions will have on the students' future. To say the least, it is inconsiderate and self-centred. They can have negotiations with the government while allowing schools to be fully functional. Yet, they don't. Students are simply leverages nowadays. We have unions to thank for that. Anyways, that is one major downside of allowing everyone to do anything they want), easier government access to large funds for realizing mega projects etc. At the same time, democracy emphasizes freedom of speech and civil liberties. That is not something entirely guaranteed in a communist package. So each has its ups and downs.
Also should I remind you of the fact that the democratic system has some major flaws of its own as well? Once the leaders of our nations are elected, a number of them 'miraculously' forget about the promises they made to the people. Ironically, those promises are what got them to office in the first place. Whether you admit it or not, it's a gaming arena where the victory lies only with the best liar. Even better yet, now elections are turning into a family business. The Bushes vs The Clintons.
Also as a case example, India practices democracy. However, besides a voting system for its people to elect their government leader, what else has it contributed to the country? Pathetically nothing. Human rights aren't exactly something of importance there. In India, every 20 minutes, a woman is raped and every year, 8,000+ individuals die of starvation. Perhaps it is slightly disagreeable to your ego, but that happens in a democratic nation.
The most notorious example, I believe, would be Hitler. Let's not forget about the fact that he was literally voted to office through an election. So to put it short, the most atrocious monstrosity the world has ever seen was produced by democracy.
If you insist on determining whether a nation is good or bad based solely on its political system, then it's your choice. I, however, prefer to judge a political entity independent of its structural nature. Who cares what party or political system a nation has, the only thing that matters should be the result. If it is successful in leading its people, in raising qualities of life for them, then I believe everything's fine.
P.S. I am exchanging ideas and sharing my differences of opinions here with a respectful tone and good mannerism. If you are able to return the same courtesy that I extend to you when replying, then please refrain from the pointless swearing. I only side with logic, never with the childish and unpersuasive emotional outbursts devoid of reason.
I want to buy some flats there if the price has not soared up.
It's settled now with people mainly locals, believe me but many people are moving out from there because of the high costs and because of the crisis too,
I don't know t f are they posting these, is it becuz they envy that Angola provide oil for china? when Angola ask for help almost every strong country ignored it except china, now many country want cooperate with Angola but this time, they are the one who gets ignored.
Don't forget Cuba helped
Except as of 2017 kilamba is full and there is a waiting list to get into a house.
what does this look like today?
People live here now and very happy. All thanks to Chinese.
first thing you do is STOP fighting each other
A new low in journalism. Indeed.
When was this video made? I am here in Angola and I haven't seen any ghost city.
What is it with those fake balconies? It's on every building and it looks idiotic.
Fake news
It as changed since 2012, Wikipedia:
However, despite the slow start, new legislation signed into law by dos Santos resulted in a massive boom in demand.[2][3]
Prices of the smallest units were reduced from US $125,000 to $70,000.
The population increased to 40,000 residents in September 2013,[4] and 80,000 in July 2015.[5]
europenian get used to see slums in arica and them sleeping on streets,so now they went crazy when see normal houses
Aged like milk.
Am I smelling jealousy
I never said Asians were living in these ghost cities. And you are wrong. The majority are vacant, quite simply because they are too expensive for the average Angolan.
Bloomberg dated 12th March 2013 reported that ....." Thousands of people wait for 1, 200 application spots a day at Kalimba, a new chinese-built city of 5, 400 hecters (13, 300 acres), while other cites at cacuaco,capari, kilometer 44 and zango are also filling up.
Ok Cnn now do a segment on the one hundred and fifty thousand (150, 000) portugues who recently fled to Angola since the recession looking for jobs.
Wait wait... did I hear that right? The Chinese build a town in FIVE YEARS??
These apartments cost around ￥600,000. So what? there're lots wealthier people with this kind of money. People will stay once you have modern infrastructure, in turn creates service jobs (health center, transportation, restaurants, schools etc.) Then investors from all trades will come to do business, It kick starts a healthy economy. If I'm rich with money to spend, I wouldn't stay in a slum. I'd move to some place nice. People = possibilities. No people = no future.
I would like to live in this big beautiful city
what does it look like now in 2017?
Houses does not lift a people from poverty. Education and jobs does.
housing lifts people out the rain. Infrastructure lifts people out of poverty.
Excuse me the current population is closer to 30,000.
You couldn't give me one of these apartments. That's TO MANY people living on top of each other. No thank you.
If the project was JUST COMPLETED, doesn't it REQUIRE TIME for those apartments to be taken up?It going to take TIME for 20,000 Apartments to be filled, i mean it's not like your selling candy here, it's a BRAND NEW CITY!
Either way its a WIN-WIN for Angolans:THIS TIME instead of their leaders being blamed for embezzling huge funds and hiding it abroad, they are actually investing in the LAND; they have build roads, houses & Schools
I'm surprised CNN is seeing THIS as a bad thing!
VIVA AFRICA
I would buy the whole city if I could
the developers usually have apartments and buildings sold before the build is complete, so people should be living here by now if it was legitimate.
Hi, have you revisited your statement (this statement) 8 years ago?
Had a change of heart already?
😊😊😊
I'll be happy to move there to live in those City Apartment buildings please let me know how
There's not really that many Chinese in Angola anymore. Chinese investment started pulling out when the oil prices dropped. This was in 2012 at the construction boom peak when there were about 250,000 Chinese guest workers, five years later there were only 50,000 and that number is probably lower now.
No more project. They went home. Make sense.
Not foreigners take the money, jose takes the money
Sir the city was under construction.Go look at it now.
True
it's not a ghost town, this new district is still under construction-do you want to move in a unfinshed home without electricity, water? give it some time then fart, Mr. NG. I have first hand recent pictures.
You need take some medicines, seriously.
Western media They are not surprised, and they are not ashamed, I have been living in this city for 8 years until today. It is a clean and safe neighborhood with water and electricity 24 hours I am not Angolan and I am free to move there at any time. Most Angolans are good people When I say that, I do not mean to show off, it is what I believe in the country and its people. 🤲🏽I wish my Angolan brothers and sisters a high level of health and peace.🇦🇴❤🇸🇴🤝🏽
Angola you guys has to, Give house to people for 50 dollar a month.
your criticism shows everything about you!
If only Bangladesh had places like that.. Need China to help
Widespread corruption but you got houses. So which is which?
We need more
check out the balconies. 5 to 10 seconds. 39-44 s. 2m36s. Or are these prefixed ac platforms?
Silly chinese ideas. Just a 3 dressed up as a 9.
Africa rise! So that we have rich brothers and sisters to trade with.
You can tell the posters' color based on their comments alone.
$4000 a month rent when the average Angolan makes $2.00 a day? Sounds like the numbers were crunched by the Federal Reserve and HUD.