Don't demolish it please. Integrate it in your new shop. try to get rid of everything that doesn't originally belong in it. see how original the core still is. especially ceilings out!
The best way to save the log cabin is to strip it to the logs (interior and exterior). Label the location of each log then deconstruct the cabin. AT that point you can move and rebuild the cabin according to your labelling system. You could either reconstruct somewhere on the property or off property, sell it, or donate to a park system or historic society for them to use. 1840 puts that cabin at 20 years before the Civil War and it may be one of the oldest standing building around you.
Up in this part of the country we have houses back to the 1600's still standing. Though that's an old house, I'm sure it's nothing dissimilar in age to the houses near it.
@@francesshaffer8980 Super idea !! The americans have plenty of specialists for Antics - they have even stolen whole castels in Europe and rebuild it somewhere in the stolen land 😆
There are companies that buy these old cabins and reconstruct them for rich people. Get those trees identified, some woods are very valuable to furniture makers and firewood always sells. Have the house deconstructed and sell the parts. Much cheaper than hauling to dump.
Please don't tear that place down! Clean it out and fix it up. 1840 log cabin is historically significant. Those jars in the basement may be from the 1940s or before.
@aaron71 I'm from this area he's in. I've never seen anything older than 1819 in youngstown/Lewiston NY. You're probably thinking NYC area or Albany but not Western NY. Most homes in Western NY range from 1800's-today. Most common in the area range from 1880-1960
I've been driving by that place daily for 25 years, on my way to work. It sure has deteriorated. It look to me like the front portion is original with the back being added on. You've done such a great job fixing up the old service station, I'd love to see you do something to preserve this old home. Like someone else said, maybe restore the original front and add a shop to the back.
if that is really a log house built in 1840 you would be crazy to totally demolish it... better to try to keep the front log portion and incorporate it into your new build as a lobby or something.... that is true history and once is gone its gone.
@@aaron71 you should still check into the actual history of the house before committing to tearing it down. Wirh when it was built, its proximity to the old Army fort, and the fact there have been civil war artifacts found so close, that house may be of some historic significance. And with it being a log structure it may be worth saving anyway. If nothing else, put the log structure up for sale to be removed from the property. But then again, there is another option that another commenter had said, which is that it would make a cool front entry to your business.
This is way better than any reality show because this is not scripted or staged.Lots of fun being allowed to walk thru with you while you explore.Thanks for posting.
I am in NC. My house was built in 1865 so right after the war. I don't think yours is a "log cabin" however; it is a timber frame style. All the beams were hand honed. I have found saw and axe marks on beams inside the house. True sized lumber. A 2x4 is actually 2"x4" and not 1.5"x3.5". This is a very solid construction style but the foundations of these houses suffered over the years. My house was still sitting on rocks when we bought it.
@@RKMotorsports you guys have a golden opportunity and I mean golden! I can totally see this house with a metal roof. You could live here or rent it out for the next 55 or 61 years. Even your grandchildren could be making use of this awesome awesome awesome house if you remodel it with care and love. Yes sell everything had a yard sale or eBay and use that money for repairs. I consider you guys Superstars from the 1970s. I'm pretty sure you ride choppers and eat phat roast beef sandwiches.💥💥💥💥💥⛳💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🐔💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🐪😵
@@RKMotorsports watching this is kind of like speeding through space at light speed. Once you get up to that kind of speed it's really hard to stop at a convenience store.
I have a vintage booth and sell those jars all the time. Depending on color and size collectors will pay high for them. You'd be surprised at what vintage sells for. Would be really neat to pull all the information on that property and see how far back it goes. People will also purchase those large beams if they are not rotten. Might look into that.
Because it's too far gone and in the way of the new shop? Tons of old houses up here, some dating back 400 years. 1840 isn't a 'relic' in this area of the country!
This farmhouse is definitely a log cabin added onto over the years!! You should contact Barnwood builders in west Virginia to come and assess this cabin for you. The ball canning jars in the basement,especially the ones with the metal clamp on it,are collectables. Please don't tear it down,it's part of the area's history! Thanks so much for posting this!! It's definitely part of this state's history and that is so important today!! God bless!!
The toy trucks, old artwork and jars have value. I collect toy trucks like the one by the basement stairs. It's worth at least $60. Saw a painting in the living room that goes for $150. And there's jars there that range from $10 to $110 for the larger ones. And who knows. There could be a jar worth alot. Stamping marks are important.
Just a suggestion, build the shop before you demo the house because if it is zoned residential they (County/City) wont allow a building to be built without a principle use (HOUSE). Also check with the (County/City) before you demo the house it may have historical relevance since it was built in the 1800's. You dont want to get fined for tearing down the house without their permission.
As far as being salvageable, I’ve seen HGTV fix up worse. 🤣 Seriously, there does appear to be an old log cabin as the original structure. There are companies that will pay for that wood. Salvage companies will also take old moldings ( I think I saw rosettes above some of the doors) and old doors and hardware. I think I even saw wavy glass in one of the old windows. I would definitely contact one of them. I also agree with metal detecting the area, even if it is only done by a local hobby club. This may gross you out, but see if you can find an old platt map and find where the outhouse was. Even if you aren’t interested in digging that, a historical group or university archaeology department might.
You can tell that back/side portion was the main cabin at one time. Then that front portion was an addition later. Can tell by the walls in the front and the hidden chimneys from the old original structure. Pretty neat
Lath and plaster is a building process used to finish mainly interior dividing walls and ceilings. It consists of narrow strips of wood which are nailed horizontally across the wall studs or ceiling joists and then coated in plaster. The technique derives from an earlier, more primitive process called wattle and daub. I wouldn't demolish that house it is built very solid and can be remodeled
It sounds like a smart idea to check if you can recoup some money from the timber frame. Even a "it's yours if you tear it down and haul it away" would save some money if you can find a reliable person to take it on. There's tons of channels who do well with restoring old houses as their content.
Our local metropark system used the "you tear it down it's yours" for two cabins now sitting on park property. Both cabins were late 1850s. They were rebuilt and furnished with period furniture and items. Both cabins are named for the original homesteader families that built the cabins. The Park runs a multitude of programs from these cabins, including cooking meals in the period correct wood stoves in them.
It happens way more than you can imagine with older people And in most cases Depression can really just pretty much cripple them and and takes away all drive and motivation
There are companies that will buy old log cabins for the original logs. If you take the siding off to expose the logs and see the condition of logs, you may be able to get your original purchase costs back for the property by selling the logs and solid wood planks.
Have you researched the history of the house? Some municipalities have demolition delay ordinances for old buildings that are architectually or historically significant. Your timeline could change for developing the site for your new building if you face a delay.
@@aaron71 Houses from the 1600's also exist in my area. However, it is not uncoomon for houses from the 1800's to be considered historic. In one municipality that I know of, any building more than 75 years old may be considered for historic prevervation.
This house resembles some of the bikes you have before you rebuild them , i really think you should rebuild it with spare parts removed from your neighbours houses. Its a winner for sure !
The super eight camera and 8 mm projector have value. I have made lamps out of them as well. I commented that this was a log cabin. I am so happy you went back and investigated! There is a lot of value in those beams! I think you’re getting your moneys worth since you spent 12500 on the house and land. I think you can re-Cooper cost completely with those beams.
I've seen that many people have commented about restoring the building because of its historic value, I see the potential benefit to your company as a promotional aid showing your dedication to the heritage of western upstate New York. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you somewhat specialize in salvage and restoration of motorcycles in need of some tender loving care to restore them to their greatness? Dry ice blasting is one of the very best ways to restore buildings that have fire or smoke damage. Dry ice blasting is perfect for the restoration of concrete, wood, brick, or other building materials because it is fast, dries almost instantly, and leaves little to no residue. Dry ice blasting quickly permeates deeply into wood and other surfaces to remove mold spores without the need for expensive and often ineffective solvents. The dry ice blasting process also eliminates the need for laborious sanding and scraping. Dry ice will help you clean the wood gently and without adding any cleaning products. Same goes for fences, handrails, your patio or floors. Dry-ice blasting eliminates dirt, traces of weather and even paint and varnish. Dry Ice is effective, environmentally friendly and water free. It can be used for a number of different surfaces, including cleaning of manufacturing equipment, household damage from disasters, removing undercoating from cars or paint from vehicles, signs and other equipment I have no dog in this fight and I am only speaking from experience in my years in construction, my hobby in restoring old vehicles, and my experience in owning a business. Solutions with benefits to all involved that include the recycling and restoration of something that was created before my association with it make me joyful and content in my life. Oh, by the way there is a Dry Ice Cleaning Service located 35 to 45 minutes from your location.
There is a company who specializes in buying and taking down houses like that. They have a show Barnwood builders. . Might be profitable for u and cheaper having them work with you.
Might be worth contacting the guys from the log cabin TV show they may be interested in taking it down and saving and reusing the logs... Just a thought....
You might be able to get a grant from a NY historical society to preserve at least the older part of the house. They might even be interested in relocating the house. The areas that have the lath (slats) and plaster. Check for lead based paints and asbestos if you're going to do work.
The jars, his uniforms that mirror, cast iron griddle on the stove from video 1 and a bunch of stuff all worth something even if it’s a little each. It all adds up. The Honda! What a great buy in this house. Plus being a log cabin now. Also those spiders from video 1 have a fungus. I had some in my cellar this past fall. Then I saw them on the Internet and later in my cellar again. Then on your video is 4 times in the fall winter season. I’ve never seen anything like it before.
Don't give up on them gallon paint cans...an old trick was to put a couple of layers of light cement (or plaster) over the 'treasure'...and add a bit of 'regular paint on the top - then carefully reseal...voila! Secret treasure! I know, because I found some family heirlooms in old paint cans...I would try to retain a part of the 'log cabin' section of the place...it's truly historic...
there is a company out of WV that buy buy log cabins and barns to salvage the wood to build new cabins you should get in touch with him his name is mark bowe he had a tv show called barnwood builders to tear it down seems to be a shame if someone could repourpose the stucture.
great video , i grew up on the other side of the fall's in ca, hwy 20 / hwy 53 i grew up in a old farm from / built in 1811 , we had 2 house's and farm all on one property ,and service station and restaurant it ran from 1914 to 1975 alot of our customers where from NY and Buffalo ect our hwy was the main rout back then there where no qew 400 series hiways yet thats cool its kinda local to me , i also had lots of family from NJ and usa i had 2 relatives die in the 1812 war , the log cabin wall might have been left for permit reasons and saved a lot of re surveying for a building lot and save money of course and time , ive heard of people doing that because you could use the same lot and was considered a renovation instead of applying for everything and the cost , but there had to be enough of the remaining building still left in place and standing to build on to it , cant wait to see the next videos !
If the house is as old as you say it may be worth fixing it because it has historical value. First step that needs to be done is fully clean the house out, You may make more sellling the bulding to salavager who will reuse the material. Find out the family history,never know this could be part of some cool history. Shame to tear down a unique build. That basement was hand dug,which is cool in itself. Cleaned up this old lady would be a awesome office and small youtube studio.
The coolest thing are the film cans. Especially the one where Bigfoot finally sat down for a one on one interview with the detective. At least that's what my warped brain hopes anyway.
It looks like a old l log cabin. It looks like the house I growing up in Bowling Green Kentucky Thank You for Sharing that great video I enjoyed watching all of your Video.GOD BLESSED YOU AND YOUR FAMILY'AND FRIENDS.
I hope you guys try to save as much of that place as possible if you plan to tear it down. You might be able to strip it down and label the cabin to rebuild it in another spot on the property. Then you can continue with your shop expansion and you keep the very old building. The place looks so far gone I would try to save a lot of the old pieces that are salvageable and maybe try to save the original cabin the rest may be beyond saving.
Contact Genesee Country Village Mumford, NY. They have staff that know about WNY homes. They have unassembled many homes and reconstructed at their antique village in Mumford. They could give great insight of possible ideas on what you have.
I agree that is a log cabin house. The house built in 1830's. That would make it close to 200 years old. From the damage of the house it doesn't look salvageable. Some of the Mason jars are worth some money. Also the older cans have some value to a collectors. It might be worth while to bring in someone and take down the house for the very old cabin wood. Nothing you will get rich off. But might get a few dollars.
Hi from South Australia, Can't wait to see the demo on the property you bought, Thank you for the history behind the house, Love these kind of things.. Peace & Harmony
When you get the mason jars grab the crock on the floor also... Those also could be extremly old and valuable sometimes. Great find on te vintage tins and the toys are collectable also.
Instead of demolishing that place yourself, you might want to look into companies that salvage old beams and lumber for recycling into reusable lumber. There was a guy who was looking for sunken logs near Williamsport, PA. They were preserved in the water and he was planning on processing them into wood for making violins. Old wood has tighter grain. The town was once the logging capital of the world in the 1800s. If there are enough logs in that house that are not totally rotted they might be valuable. It depends somewhat on the variety of the wood.
If you do tear down, at least sort out & salvage all the old wood that's still in decent shape--lots of value there! But it would be amazing if you could save the original portion & incorporate it into your new building, or at least reuse the wood for your entry/office areas or furniture...
There's some people that buy old lumber , plane it down and use it in new construction. When I buy old cans I put boiled linseed oil on it for preservation. Check out books too, people used to hide money in them.
Just keeps getting better and better it'sit's unbelievable I would look down that chimney I would look under the corners of the house on the outside inside you be surprised what you might find in there just turning on to be so amazing can't wait to see more 😱
Cool videos, thanks for sharing your progress! That's not a log cabin. It's a typical 1840-1850s post and beam timber frame that's had "improvements" added until the 1970s. What do you folks do for disposal of that asbestos siding out your way?
Someone went through extensive effort to support that floor, building those piers and posts. That's a load of work. It was done for a specific reason. Maybe an earlier attempt at preservation. It wouldn't hurt to strip the ''new' siding off to see what you really have there. That lathe and plaster ceiling in the Ell, the addition you were crawling in is called an Ell, was being done in the through at least the 30's, I think...so it's older than that, at least (and that's just the extension, the Ell). It needs to be striped back. You 'may' decide to keep the original structure in your 'new' plans for the site. It 'may' be of historical significance and 'possibly' 'might' be illegible for state or federal funding to save it. RK Motorsports Merch Store is a historically significant Log Home??? Some play of those words might be interesting. RK"s Cabin? Thanks for the tour. Quite enjoyable viewing!
Those piers and posts are super common on houses that've settled beyond their original design. Hell my parents' house was built in the 70s and has a couple sets of them. And the older Victorian houses I've lived in throughout life have all had them strewn about their basements. And it pains me to say, but I'm pretty sure all that's still viable from that house's cabin days are the outer walls and the foundation. She's a tired old building, and it's time to let her sleep. She can live on through projects done with her reclaimed timbers. I'd personally opt to use as much as possible in an office; exposed beam ceilings, shelving, tabletops etc.
I think the house was maybe a small one room log cabin at one time.....then seeing all the lath boards nailed to 2x4 studs..lath boards are the small planks nailed with gaps to secure the coats of plaster.....So people added on quite a few times to make other rooms.The lath boards were used back in the early 20th century for the coat of plaster for support smoothe walls.Now days its standard to use sheets of drywall then mud the seams.
Hey, good to see you again. I have wanted to go "Urban Exploring" for a while now. I would absolutely love to go through abandoned house's. Especially if they were full of treasure's. Please don't break or throw out the old jars and bottle's. They are really cool. A lot of people collect that stuff. You can probably sell it. Any how, good luck with your plans can't wait to see it years from now. God Bless.
Could you put tin on the roof to stop the damage? Lord know if there's hidden stuff in the walls. Those old jars are awesome, those gallon jugs are worth money too. Might be careful of lead paint being that old amd asbestos.
Not a log cabin. Primitive timber frame. I have timber frames in my 1875 house. Not everyone in the 1800s lived in a log cabin, especially in the Eastern part of the country. They did a good job on it. The proof of that is that it is still standing after 183 years. Even a 30 year old house will start to fall apart quickly once the roof gets some leaking.
Please. You need to try selling all the old intact stuff on e-bay or have a yard sale or something. Cause those old things can bring in some money for your new project. Like jars and bottles, pictures, dolls, cans, books, clothes, kitchen wears , everything…!!! 😅🥰
Also, connect with a local Metal Detectorist Hobby Club. They could bring 1 or more enthusiast to cover a lot of ground. I'm not sure of the 'split'. You should find some relics there somewhere! Happy hunting.
When I first saw the front of the house you can tell where there used to be a front porch, it may have been a stagecoach stop with barns possibly in the back. Would love to see what it looks like all cleaned out. Cleaning it out would give you a better perspective
That house could easily have begun as a log cabin, and been added onto over the years. I have seen several houses like that, where they basically kept the cabin and built a bigger house around it, so now the old cabin is buried by newer walls and rooms. Even if you tear down the rest of the house, save the cabin. And you may have enough collectibles in there to recoup much, if not all, of your initial investment. Be careful what you throw away.
For what i can see (not professional) but i think whoever built that house.. they built it strong and sturdy.,, that kind of piling the wood/log makes that place a shelter from nature or bomb… DONT destroy or demolish… just fix the exterior.:
Oh I would definitely go through that house with a fine tooth comb. If I had too much money (Ha!), I would try to renovate. Who knows what's on the film you found, the right documentation could be worth a fortune, I love sleuthing.
money in books, envelopes. I had a customer who found thousands in envelopes in magazines, and books, manuals after her husband died. Also, my grandfather hid money in the clothes shoot upstairs
Check out the toys you find in there, looks like a holly hobby doll, the barbies, and old toy trucks, board games and pez despinsers are worth alot of money,check on tea cups and silverware some old things in that house are worth money, things you wouldnt look twice at and toss in garbage, jars pop cans etc. Check all that stuff you could have a surprize fortune..
The log cabin will be externally structurally sound to the point of indestructability, even with the roof being full of holes. I wonder what all the props in the basement are for though? Anyway, if you took the more modern extension off the back & completely gutted the log cabin out internally keeping only the floor, then put a replacement timber roof on it, you could totally use it as a reception, office, waiting area & storage for a shop built beside/behind it... if you've gutted it out entirely, you can do everything with it that you would have done with some modern prefab office shack, but you'll have a cool civil war era reception & office part of your shop.
The beautiful carafe onto of fridge in kitchen. Please save it from being broken, I will buy the jars and it from you as well as all the tea cups. They need to be saved.. let me know I'd happily buy them
It's a shame that the Log Cabin can't be restored. No matter what you end up doing with the property if you want to get rid of the raccoons and the mice and the squirrels, the best thing you can do is go to the grocery store and invest in several large bottles of peppermint extract. For the peppermint extract all around the property this will make them leave immediately. I look forward to more updates
Fantastic wood and beadboard. Not everything has to be antique to have value. If you can't keep part of the house, maybe you can rescue the wood and doorknobs and mantels and the Collectibles Within.
I bought an old farm house in Virgil, NY that had a chimney stack like that. We only found it, by removing the old plaster and lathe walls below it, and finding creosote. The roof had been replaced. Thankfully we found it before tearing down the wall below it, because the wall was holding up the weight of the chimney. Could you imagine the damage, and possible fatality of taking that wall down first? Gnarly
Before demolishing the house, take a few pictures of the beams and list it on marketplace. Someone might offer you some good money for them. They might even demolish the house for you and keep the beams as payment if there's enough salvageable.
I want to see you sell the antique stuff in the house, oval picture, old toy trucks, old jars and bottles, china... Old windows and doors, light fixtures, radiators used wood, siding will sell as salvage, wooden ducks... I want the shelving made of rods on the living room wall.
I would do a great deal of research before demolishing the house. From what I can see it is gold mine of treasures. You should consult a local historical professional. Don't be the the guy on the road show who stripped the varnish off an item that went from thousands of dollars to a couple hundred bucks. Best of luck! 😊
If I were you, I would hire a cleaning crew to separate books and kitchen items and other usable things and pack them up for donations to battered women's shelters or youth organizations. It would be a shame to see usable things destroyed. You could also just hire organizers to set up a pre-advertized yard sale to recoup some of your expenses.
Don't demolish it please. Integrate it in your new shop. try to get rid of everything that doesn't originally belong in it. see how original the core still is. especially ceilings out!
I was thinking the front part without that addition would make a great office and leave plenty of space for the new shop.
It's toast and the dimensions would hinder any shop build. Old houses are torn down all the time; there's tons of them up here.
You need to contact Barnwood Builders. They dismantle and rebuild old log cabins.
The best way to save the log cabin is to strip it to the logs (interior and exterior). Label the location of each log then deconstruct the cabin. AT that point you can move and rebuild the cabin according to your labelling system. You could either reconstruct somewhere on the property or off property, sell it, or donate to a park system or historic society for them to use. 1840 puts that cabin at 20 years before the Civil War and it may be one of the oldest standing building around you.
Up in this part of the country we have houses back to the 1600's still standing. Though that's an old house, I'm sure it's nothing dissimilar in age to the houses near it.
@@francesshaffer8980 Super idea !! The americans have plenty of specialists for Antics - they have even stolen whole castels in Europe and rebuild it somewhere in the stolen land 😆
Label It for what? its not like he plans on using it to rebuild a exact copy of the house again
There are companies that buy these old cabins and reconstruct them for rich people. Get those trees identified, some woods are very valuable to furniture makers and firewood always sells. Have the house deconstructed and sell the parts. Much cheaper than hauling to dump.
check out the guy that sell log homes in west VA i think..he buys removes old cabins And sells and rebuilds them..had a show about it..
Please don't tear that place down! Clean it out and fix it up. 1840 log cabin is historically significant. Those jars in the basement may be from the 1940s or before.
Historically significant? Houses this area of the country date back to the 1600's in places. Most my town is 1800's houses. Nothing special!
@aaron71 I'm from this area he's in. I've never seen anything older than 1819 in youngstown/Lewiston NY. You're probably thinking NYC area or Albany but not Western NY. Most homes in Western NY range from 1800's-today. Most common in the area range from 1880-1960
I agree don't take it down
I was thinking the same thing. I'd be awesome if they bring it back to life.
I would fix it up
I've been driving by that place daily for 25 years, on my way to work. It sure has deteriorated. It look to me like the front portion is original with the back being added on. You've done such a great job fixing up the old service station, I'd love to see you do something to preserve this old home. Like someone else said, maybe restore the original front and add a shop to the back.
Where is this place at ?
if that is really a log house built in 1840 you would be crazy to totally demolish it... better to try to keep the front log portion and incorporate it into your new build as a lobby or something.... that is true history and once is gone its gone.
1840 isn't old for houses up here, we have them standing from the 1600's still!
@@aaron71 you should still check into the actual history of the house before committing to tearing it down. Wirh when it was built, its proximity to the old Army fort, and the fact there have been civil war artifacts found so close, that house may be of some historic significance. And with it being a log structure it may be worth saving anyway. If nothing else, put the log structure up for sale to be removed from the property. But then again, there is another option that another commenter had said, which is that it would make a cool front entry to your business.
I would definitely refurbish the cabin completely.
They gonna burn it.
This is way better than any reality show because this is not scripted or staged.Lots of fun being allowed to walk thru with you while you explore.Thanks for posting.
I am in NC. My house was built in 1865 so right after the war. I don't think yours is a "log cabin" however; it is a timber frame style. All the beams were hand honed. I have found saw and axe marks on beams inside the house. True sized lumber. A 2x4 is actually 2"x4" and not 1.5"x3.5". This is a very solid construction style but the foundations of these houses suffered over the years. My house was still sitting on rocks when we bought it.
The character in these old houses is crazy!
@@RKMotorsports you guys have a golden opportunity and I mean golden! I can totally see this house with a metal roof. You could live here or rent it out for the next 55 or 61 years. Even your grandchildren could be making use of this awesome awesome awesome house if you remodel it with care and love. Yes sell everything had a yard sale or eBay and use that money for repairs. I consider you guys Superstars from the 1970s. I'm pretty sure you ride choppers and eat phat roast beef sandwiches.💥💥💥💥💥⛳💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🐔💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥🐪😵
I live in NC to
@@RKMotorsports watching this is kind of like speeding through space at light speed. Once you get up to that kind of speed it's really hard to stop at a convenience store.
lift it and redo the foundation?
I have a vintage booth and sell those jars all the time. Depending on color and size collectors will pay high for them. You'd be surprised at what vintage sells for. Would be really neat to pull all the information on that property and see how far back it goes. People will also purchase those large beams if they are not rotten. Might look into that.
Omg. How on earth could you tear down this relic? Please SAVE THIS BEAUTY HOME
Because it's too far gone and in the way of the new shop? Tons of old houses up here, some dating back 400 years. 1840 isn't a 'relic' in this area of the country!
@aaron71 there's nothing 400 years old in Lewiston/Youngstown area, trust me I live here myself. Oldest I've personally seen is 1819.
I agree, it is a lovely old house and deservers to be saved.
could take it down TO the log house, just fix THAT. The logs are MONEY.💰💰💰💰
This farmhouse is definitely a log cabin added onto over the years!! You should contact Barnwood builders in west Virginia to come and assess this cabin for you. The ball canning jars in the basement,especially the ones with the metal clamp on it,are collectables. Please don't tear it down,it's part of the area's history! Thanks so much for posting this!! It's definitely part of this state's history and that is so important today!! God bless!!
I hope you don't demolish the place!!
You really should save the original 1840 part of the house! That would look awesome on your bike shop property!
The toy trucks, old artwork and jars have value. I collect toy trucks like the one by the basement stairs. It's worth at least $60. Saw a painting in the living room that goes for $150. And there's jars there that range from $10 to $110 for the larger ones. And who knows. There could be a jar worth alot. Stamping marks are important.
Praying that you guys will be able to salvage the home.
Just a suggestion, build the shop before you demo the house because if it is zoned residential they (County/City) wont allow a building to be built without a principle use (HOUSE). Also check with the (County/City) before you demo the house it may have historical relevance since it was built in the 1800's. You dont want to get fined for tearing down the house without their permission.
Mark Bowe from 'Barnwood Builders' might be interested in a purchase of the logs
As far as being salvageable, I’ve seen HGTV fix up worse. 🤣 Seriously, there does appear to be an old log cabin as the original structure. There are companies that will pay for that wood. Salvage companies will also take old moldings ( I think I saw rosettes above some of the doors) and old doors and hardware. I think I even saw wavy glass in one of the old windows. I would definitely contact one of them. I also agree with metal detecting the area, even if it is only done by a local hobby club. This may gross you out, but see if you can find an old platt map and find where the outhouse was. Even if you aren’t interested in digging that, a historical group or university archaeology department might.
Nice for the return of this house. Excited for the motorcycle revival and the stuff you saved
You can tell that back/side portion was the main cabin at one time. Then that front portion was an addition later. Can tell by the walls in the front and the hidden chimneys from the old original structure. Pretty neat
Definitely keep the timber in that place, you’ll be able to recoup a lot of $ selling those beams and exterior walls !
That's the plan!
Unfortunately it happens to way more people than you can imagine mostly from depression and no family close by
Lath and plaster is a building process used to finish mainly interior dividing walls and ceilings. It consists of narrow strips of wood which are nailed horizontally across the wall studs or ceiling joists and then coated in plaster. The technique derives from an earlier, more primitive process called wattle and daub. I wouldn't demolish that house it is built very solid and can be remodeled
It sounds like a smart idea to check if you can recoup some money from the timber frame. Even a "it's yours if you tear it down and haul it away" would save some money if you can find a reliable person to take it on. There's tons of channels who do well with restoring old houses as their content.
I'm currently reaching out to a local company that might be able to do this!
Our local metropark system used the "you tear it down it's yours" for two cabins now sitting on park property. Both cabins were late 1850s. They were rebuilt and furnished with period furniture and items. Both cabins are named for the original homesteader families that built the cabins. The Park runs a multitude of programs from these cabins, including cooking meals in the period correct wood stoves in them.
So sad to think a man who had a career in law enforcement ended up dying all alone in such conditions.
It happens way more than you can imagine with older people And in most cases Depression can really just pretty much cripple them and and takes away all drive and motivation
between the scrap, the left over alluminum cans, the timber, and the some of the leftover things you could easily make all your money back
There are companies that will buy old log cabins for the original logs. If you take the siding off to expose the logs and see the condition of logs, you may be able to get your original purchase costs back for the property by selling the logs and solid wood planks.
Have you researched the history of the house? Some municipalities have demolition delay ordinances for old buildings that are architectually or historically significant. Your timeline could change for developing the site for your new building if you face a delay.
Mid 1800's isn't old for a house up here, it's common. We have houses from the 1600's still standing!
@@aaron71 Houses from the 1600's also exist in my area. However, it is not uncoomon for houses from the 1800's to be considered historic. In one municipality that I know of, any building more than 75 years old may be considered for historic prevervation.
This house resembles some of the bikes you have before you rebuild them , i really think you should rebuild it with spare parts removed from your neighbours houses. Its a winner for sure !
I have a working projector to play those films OR i've got some projector bulbs if thats all your's needs.. see what number bulb it takes.
The super eight camera and 8 mm projector have value. I have made lamps out of them as well.
I commented that this was a log cabin. I am so happy you went back and investigated! There is a lot of value in those beams! I think you’re getting your moneys worth since you spent 12500 on the house and land. I think you can re-Cooper cost completely with those beams.
It isn't a log cabin, it's simply made with hand hewn wood which is common this area of the country.
The first porno I ever watched was on an 8mm reel......lol
I've seen that many people have commented about restoring the building because of its historic value, I see the potential benefit to your company as a promotional aid showing your dedication to the heritage of western upstate New York.
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you somewhat specialize in salvage and restoration of motorcycles in need of some tender loving care to restore them to their greatness?
Dry ice blasting is one of the very best ways to restore buildings that have fire or smoke damage. Dry ice blasting is perfect for the restoration of concrete, wood, brick, or other building materials because it is fast, dries almost instantly, and leaves little to no residue.
Dry ice blasting quickly permeates deeply into wood and other surfaces to remove mold spores without the need for expensive and often ineffective solvents. The dry ice blasting process also eliminates the need for laborious sanding and scraping.
Dry ice will help you clean the wood gently and without adding any cleaning products. Same goes for fences, handrails, your patio or floors. Dry-ice blasting eliminates dirt, traces of weather and even paint and varnish.
Dry Ice is effective, environmentally friendly and water free. It can be used for a number of different surfaces, including cleaning of manufacturing equipment, household damage from disasters, removing undercoating from cars or paint from vehicles, signs and other equipment
I have no dog in this fight and I am only speaking from experience in my years in construction, my hobby in restoring old vehicles, and my experience in owning a business.
Solutions with benefits to all involved that include the recycling and restoration of something that was created before my association with it make me joyful and content in my life.
Oh, by the way there is a Dry Ice Cleaning Service located 35 to 45 minutes from your location.
Does this dry ice method work for soot removal after a minor house fire?
It's a really cool house don't demolish it you could even use as a guest house or a rk sports club house all kinds of ideas
There is a company who specializes in buying and taking down houses like that. They have a show Barnwood builders. . Might be profitable for u and cheaper having them work with you.
Might be worth contacting the guys from the log cabin TV show they may be interested in taking it down and saving and reusing the logs... Just a thought....
You might be able to get a grant from a NY historical society to preserve at least the older part of the house. They might even be interested in relocating the house. The areas that have the lath (slats) and plaster. Check for lead based paints and asbestos if you're going to do work.
The jars, his uniforms that mirror, cast iron griddle on the stove from video 1 and a bunch of stuff all worth something even if it’s a little each. It all adds up. The Honda! What a great buy in this house. Plus being a log cabin now. Also those spiders from video 1 have a fungus. I had some in my cellar this past fall. Then I saw them on the Internet and later in my cellar again. Then on your video is 4 times in the fall winter season. I’ve never seen anything like it before.
Just a tip...trees actually enhance property values and are a nice aesthetic to any setup. Maybe plant some fruit trees once the new shop is up.
Don't give up on them gallon paint cans...an old trick was to put a couple of layers of light cement (or plaster) over the 'treasure'...and add a bit of 'regular paint on the top - then carefully reseal...voila! Secret treasure! I know, because I found some family heirlooms in old paint cans...I would try to retain a part of the 'log cabin' section of the place...it's truly historic...
Also, items wrapped in heavy plastic and placed directly in the paint.
there is a company out of WV that buy buy log cabins and barns to salvage the wood to build new cabins you should get in touch with him his name is mark bowe he had a tv show called barnwood builders to tear it down seems to be a shame if someone could repourpose the stucture.
The good thing is that if you decide to build new hopefully you’ll save money on the utilities.
great video , i grew up on the other side of the fall's in ca, hwy 20 / hwy 53 i grew up in a old farm from / built in 1811 , we had 2 house's and farm all on one property ,and service station and restaurant it ran from 1914 to 1975 alot of our customers where from NY and Buffalo ect our hwy was the main rout back then there where no qew 400 series hiways yet thats cool its kinda local to me , i also had lots of family from NJ and usa i had 2 relatives die in the 1812 war , the log cabin wall might have been left for permit reasons and saved a lot of re surveying for a building lot and save money of course and time , ive heard of people doing that because you could use the same lot and was considered a renovation instead of applying for everything and the cost , but there had to be enough of the remaining building still left in place and standing to build on to it , cant wait to see the next videos !
If the house is as old as you say it may be worth fixing it because it has historical value. First step that needs to be done is fully clean the house out, You may make more sellling the bulding to salavager who will reuse the material. Find out the family history,never know this could be part of some cool history. Shame to tear down a unique build. That basement was hand dug,which is cool in itself. Cleaned up this old lady would be a awesome office and small youtube studio.
The coolest thing are the film cans. Especially the one where Bigfoot finally sat down for a one on one interview with the detective. At least that's what my warped brain hopes anyway.
I love love love the jars and tea cups please care for them.
It looks like a old l log cabin.
It looks like the house I growing up in Bowling Green Kentucky Thank You for Sharing that great video I enjoyed watching all of your Video.GOD BLESSED YOU AND YOUR FAMILY'AND FRIENDS.
I hope you guys try to save as much of that place as possible if you plan to tear it down. You might be able to strip it down and label the cabin to rebuild it in another spot on the property. Then you can continue with your shop expansion and you keep the very old building. The place looks so far gone I would try to save a lot of the old pieces that are salvageable and maybe try to save the original cabin the rest may be beyond saving.
run a metal detector in the basement also, many treasures are hidden there in the walls and floor.
You really should try to save this place. It's a historic house and it's still in good enough structural shape to be saved
Contact Genesee Country Village Mumford, NY. They have staff that know about WNY homes. They have unassembled many homes and reconstructed at their antique village in Mumford. They could give great insight of possible ideas on what you have.
I agree that is a log cabin house. The house built in 1830's. That would make it close to 200 years old. From the damage of the house it doesn't look salvageable. Some of the Mason jars are worth some money. Also the older cans have some value to a collectors. It might be worth while to bring in someone and take down the house for the very old cabin wood. Nothing you will get rich off. But might get a few dollars.
Those jars in basement are really your best find. They will sell for big bucks to a collector.
Hi from South Australia, Can't wait to see the demo on the property you bought, Thank you for the history behind the house, Love these kind of things.. Peace & Harmony
When you get the mason jars grab the crock on the floor also... Those also could be extremly old and valuable sometimes. Great find on te vintage tins and the toys are collectable also.
You need to keep all the old cans, especially those with advertising on them. Collectors will pay good money for them.
Trying to sort through and gather up whatever we can!
Instead of demolishing that place yourself, you might want to look into companies that salvage old beams and lumber for recycling into reusable lumber. There was a guy who was looking for sunken logs near Williamsport, PA. They were preserved in the water and he was planning on processing them into wood for making violins. Old wood has tighter grain. The town was once the logging capital of the world in the 1800s. If there are enough logs in that house that are not totally rotted they might be valuable. It depends somewhat on the variety of the wood.
If you do tear down, at least sort out & salvage all the old wood that's still in decent shape--lots of value there! But it would be amazing if you could save the original portion & incorporate it into your new building, or at least reuse the wood for your entry/office areas or furniture...
Those old beams, milled up, would make for great wood to build a reception area in the new shop!
Put some stuff you found in your new shop 👍🏼
That's the plan!
As many have commented, consider having someone assess the possible value of logs/timbers in the place. They could be valuable to the right person.
There's some people that buy old lumber , plane it down and use it in new construction. When I buy old cans I put boiled linseed oil on it for preservation. Check out books too, people used to hide money in them.
Looks like you may have found the last remnants of the "pickled peppers that peter piper picked"😆
Just keeps getting better and better it'sit's unbelievable I would look down that chimney I would look under the corners of the house on the outside inside you be surprised what you might find in there just turning on to be so amazing can't wait to see more 😱
Emerald canning started in Mt. Clemens, Michigan about 1940s. Even now they sell the same name and other vegetables
Cool videos, thanks for sharing your progress!
That's not a log cabin. It's a typical 1840-1850s post and beam timber frame that's had "improvements" added until the 1970s. What do you folks do for disposal of that asbestos siding out your way?
Someone went through extensive effort to support that floor, building those piers and posts. That's a load of work. It was done for a specific reason. Maybe an earlier attempt at preservation. It wouldn't hurt to strip the ''new' siding off to see what you really have there. That lathe and plaster ceiling in the Ell, the addition you were crawling in is called an Ell, was being done in the through at least the 30's, I think...so it's older than that, at least (and that's just the extension, the Ell). It needs to be striped back. You 'may' decide to keep the original structure in your 'new' plans for the site. It 'may' be of historical significance and 'possibly' 'might' be illegible for state or federal funding to save it. RK Motorsports Merch Store is a historically significant Log Home??? Some play of those words might be interesting. RK"s Cabin? Thanks for the tour. Quite enjoyable viewing!
Those piers and posts are super common on houses that've settled beyond their original design. Hell my parents' house was built in the 70s and has a couple sets of them. And the older Victorian houses I've lived in throughout life have all had them strewn about their basements.
And it pains me to say, but I'm pretty sure all that's still viable from that house's cabin days are the outer walls and the foundation.
She's a tired old building, and it's time to let her sleep.
She can live on through projects done with her reclaimed timbers. I'd personally opt to use as much as possible in an office; exposed beam ceilings, shelving, tabletops etc.
That’s a good house that had good bones in the attic even then floor an walls were straight. Not many fortunate enough to own a house.
I think the house was maybe a small one room log cabin at one time.....then seeing all the lath boards nailed to 2x4 studs..lath boards are the small planks nailed with gaps to secure the coats of plaster.....So people added on quite a few times to make other rooms.The lath boards were used back in the early 20th century for the coat of plaster for support smoothe walls.Now days its standard to use sheets of drywall then mud the seams.
Hey, good to see you again. I have wanted to go "Urban Exploring" for a while now. I would absolutely love to go through abandoned house's. Especially if they were full of treasure's. Please don't break or throw out the old jars and bottle's. They are really cool. A lot of people collect that stuff. You can probably sell it. Any how, good luck with your plans can't wait to see it years from now. God Bless.
Could you put tin on the roof to stop the damage? Lord know if there's hidden stuff in the walls. Those old jars are awesome, those gallon jugs are worth money too. Might be careful of lead paint being that old amd asbestos.
Love the old Mrs Beazley doll from the extra room. That's worth $$$$ now.
any updates on the bike you found in the garage? i would love to see it run.
Not a log cabin. Primitive timber frame. I have timber frames in my 1875 house. Not everyone in the 1800s lived in a log cabin, especially in the Eastern part of the country. They did a good job on it. The proof of that is that it is still standing after 183 years. Even a 30 year old house will start to fall apart quickly once the roof gets some leaking.
Please. You need to try selling all the old intact stuff on e-bay or have a yard sale or something. Cause those old things can bring in some money for your new project. Like jars and bottles, pictures, dolls, cans, books, clothes, kitchen wears , everything…!!! 😅🥰
Also, connect with a local Metal Detectorist Hobby Club. They could bring 1 or more enthusiast to cover a lot of ground. I'm not sure of the 'split'. You should find some relics there somewhere! Happy hunting.
When I first saw the front of the house you can tell where there used to be a front porch, it may have been a stagecoach stop with barns possibly in the back. Would love to see what it looks like all cleaned out. Cleaning it out would give you a better perspective
When you crawled in the small cubbie up stairs there was an old Cabage patch doll just to the right. The original can going the thousands
I had a ‘72 Honda 125 as dirt bike when I was younger, great bike, wish I had one now lol
If it’s add piece of history leave it and use the trees you cut down to fix the stuff like roof wall ect
That house could easily have begun as a log cabin, and been added onto over the years. I have seen several houses like that, where they basically kept the cabin and built a bigger house around it, so now the old cabin is buried by newer walls and rooms. Even if you tear down the rest of the house, save the cabin. And you may have enough collectibles in there to recoup much, if not all, of your initial investment. Be careful what you throw away.
Great shot of Sean's can.
Save all blue. And all the ones with the lids with the lil hook looking things.
For what i can see (not professional) but i think whoever built that house.. they built it strong and sturdy.,, that kind of piling the wood/log makes that place a shelter from nature or bomb… DONT destroy or demolish… just fix the exterior.:
I think that's why it has lasted so long!
Very cool thanks for sharing!
Thanks fore watching!
Oh I would definitely go through that house with a fine tooth comb. If I had too much money (Ha!), I would try to renovate. Who knows what's on the film you found, the right documentation could be worth a fortune, I love sleuthing.
money in books, envelopes. I had a customer who found thousands in envelopes in magazines, and books, manuals after her husband died. Also, my grandfather hid money in the clothes shoot upstairs
3:45 Tim Horton's coffee ! That's Canadian !
They are only 5 minutes from the border. Don't forget, he played for Buffalo!
Maybe contact any "local" metal detecting clubs, I am sure they would love to help with that aspect of this adventure.
Check out the toys you find in there, looks like a holly hobby doll, the barbies, and old toy trucks, board games and pez despinsers are worth alot of money,check on tea cups and silverware some old things in that house are worth money, things you wouldnt look twice at and toss in garbage, jars pop cans etc. Check all that stuff you could have a surprize fortune..
The log cabin will be externally structurally sound to the point of indestructability, even with the roof being full of holes. I wonder what all the props in the basement are for though? Anyway, if you took the more modern extension off the back & completely gutted the log cabin out internally keeping only the floor, then put a replacement timber roof on it, you could totally use it as a reception, office, waiting area & storage for a shop built beside/behind it... if you've gutted it out entirely, you can do everything with it that you would have done with some modern prefab office shack, but you'll have a cool civil war era reception & office part of your shop.
When you drop a tennis ball and it rolls to the middle of the house without fail, it's time for some support posts in the root cellar.
The beautiful carafe onto of fridge in kitchen. Please save it from being broken, I will buy the jars and it from you as well as all the tea cups. They need to be saved.. let me know I'd happily buy them
Historic land! Nice!
It's a shame that the Log Cabin can't be restored. No matter what you end up doing with the property if you want to get rid of the raccoons and the mice and the squirrels, the best thing you can do is go to the grocery store and invest in several large bottles of peppermint extract. For the peppermint extract all around the property this will make them leave immediately. I look forward to more updates
Fantastic wood and beadboard. Not everything has to be antique to have value. If you can't keep part of the house, maybe you can rescue the wood and doorknobs and mantels and the Collectibles Within.
I bought an old farm house in Virgil, NY that had a chimney stack like that. We only found it, by removing the old plaster and lathe walls below it, and finding creosote. The roof had been replaced. Thankfully we found it before tearing down the wall below it, because the wall was holding up the weight of the chimney. Could you imagine the damage, and possible fatality of taking that wall down first? Gnarly
You guys are like urban archaeologists.🤠🧐
Before demolishing the house, take a few pictures of the beams and list it on marketplace. Someone might offer you some good money for them. They might even demolish the house for you and keep the beams as payment if there's enough salvageable.
I want to see you sell the antique stuff in the house, oval picture, old toy trucks, old jars and bottles, china... Old windows and doors, light fixtures, radiators used wood, siding will sell as salvage, wooden ducks... I want the shelving made of rods on the living room wall.
I would do a great deal of research before demolishing the house. From what I can see it is gold mine of treasures. You should consult a local historical professional. Don't be the the guy on the road show who stripped the varnish off an item that went from thousands of dollars to a couple hundred bucks. Best of luck! 😊
If I were you, I would hire a cleaning crew to separate books and kitchen items and other usable things and pack them up for donations to battered women's shelters or youth organizations. It would be a shame to see usable things destroyed. You could also just hire organizers to set up a pre-advertized yard sale to recoup some of your expenses.
I need that book about Abnormal people. For real