Her name is actually Hella?! Hmm, fitting. She looks like a pretty pink flower blossom that would be perfect for the world's most comforting and soft cuddle/hug. Chi looks like a Princess attending the annual masquarade ball as a heavenly spirit or messenger, all elegant yet blunt and honest in that way Princesses tend to be when they don't care enough to lie.
Never understood why there was a restaurant in an art museum full of famous works of art. Being around all that steam and smoke would be bad for paintings.
Hella was hilarious in this reaction! "Hello Legs" Hella: She has a name! "You're crazy!" Hella: He is! But you don't need to point it out... Hella: He's dead, you don't need to talk to him! "He stole my balloons!" Hella: It's okay, we'll get you a new one
These ladies are always so genuinely invested no matter what movie they watch. They also really pay attention to what's happening and are trying to figure things out. It's a really fun channel.
Yeah. I discovered this channel a few weeks back and I think out of all the "first time watching movies" channels (most of which I think are fake), they give real reactions.
The intro with the parents and boy was what you would call a "bait and switch". It was intentional that they wanted the audience to predictably think that it was Batman and his parents, so they could subvert the audience's expectation.
At the time, Keaton's casting was kind of controversial since he was just kind of Mr. Mom, clowny comedian. Supposedly, he was cast because they felt he was the best Bruce Wayne.
Don't forget Kim Basinger as Vicky Vale! She's stunning and her scream is one of the best, it has been used as a sample on Prince's music and elsewhere as it's so good. 39:51
John Williams' Superman score and Danny Elfman's Batman one are two of the most iconic superhero soundtracks ever. The Batman '66 theme is pretty recognizable, as well, in a delightfully kitschy way.
Nicholson delivered a spectacular performance, equal parts comedic and utterly terrifying. The perfect monster clown to contrast/clash Batman. The reveal in Bruce's past was unnerving especially with Jack's slasher smile.
42:35 - Finding someone who looks like a young Jack Nicholson was a heckuva find. Those eyebrows of his are iconic, and that smile (even before the Joker transformation). Hugo Blick was perfect casting.
@@danielbyrne5402 Of course, Ray Nicholson was less than three years old when this film was made, so probably didn't have enough screen experience to double his dad for that scene, at the time. 😁
@TSIRKLAND lol, nahh, if the looks run in the family, so does the talent, I say bring on baby joker "hewwo uncie batz, I wanna play with bat car" "NO, you can't joker, it's dangerous and it time for your nap" "naaaw! I bash you, I bop you I..." "rockaby baby..." "zzzzz"
@@Billinois78 True! Slater would have been about 20 at the time. He definitely has the eyebrows and the voice. I have wondered that they've never been cast as father and son (that I know of).
Ever dance with the devil on a pale moon night is what the Joker told Wayne’s parents just before he killed them. He also said it when he broke into Vicky Val‘s apartment!That’s when Wayne figured out that the Joker was the one who killed his parents.
Always wondered about that old not hitting a guy with glasses saying, Looked it up, here someone made a good explanation. "In the “good old days,” boys often fought, and adults didn’t break them up unless the fight was considered unfair. An unfair fight would be a fight between a much smaller and a much larger boy, a fight where one of the boys didn’t want to fight and was trying to run away, or a fight that included an extra person. There was one very important rule. You don’t hit someone who wears glasses. Why you may ask? There were three reasons. 1. First, glasses were expensive back then, and very few children wore them. The ones who did really needed them, and if they broke their glasses it would be a huge problem - they wouldn't be able to see in class and it would cost their parents lots of money to replace them. Also, it used to take a long time to get glasses made, so the child could be without them for a while. 2. Second, a child with glasses often could not see without them, so taking the glasses off was not an option. If the child too the glasses off and couldn’t see well, he was at a terrible disadvantage, and therefore it was not a “fair” fight. In the old days, we were all about “fair fights.” It was a part of our lives that was ingrained in us. 3. And third, it used to be that glasses were made out of glass. If they broke, they could break in sharp little pieces, and damage the child’s eyes! Punching a child with glasses could lead to his glasses shattering, cutting his eye, and blinding him or permanently damaging his eyes. This was definitely “not a fair fight.” We all knew from a very young age that you don’t hit someone with glasses."
51:32 There was a rule that people should never ever hit a person who wears glasses (other than hitting someone outside of defence would be assault). In the past glasses were genuinely made of glass (there weren't the plastic and/or shatter-proof lenses that you can get nowadays) so hitting someone in the face who wore glasses ran the risk of seriously damaging that person's eyes with glass shards as the lenses broke, potentially causing blindness. Another thing is that glasses back then were, from what older generations have told me, a lot more expensive then than they are now, so would cost a lot more to replace by comparison.
There also used to be a rule about shooting unarmed people or even drawing a weapon on one, regardless of if you were a Police Officer or everyday Citizen. Mostly because said Citizens were former soldiers with kills under their belt that REACT on reflex when a weapon is reached for, no matter if the one grabbing for it was wearing a badge or not; a lethal threat was issued and must be dealt with. There was a time when that was common sense and anyone that broke those rules were considered the laughing stock of the countryside, relentlessly humiliated or even tar and feathered. So long as you were not armed with a sidearm, you did not have to fear any challenges or harm from someone with a weapon. Pistols are the only class of firearm intended purely for murder. Rifles and shotguns were an exception, carried for personal protection from animals and used for hunting. A teenager used to be able to walk into a store, lean their long-arm against the counter or sling it over their shoulder without worry of it being considered robbery; it wasn't even thought of as strange. A person had to protect themselves and provide for their families, plus not all who wore badges were good people and society accepted that. Nowadays, the media and governments have ensured their people are so afraid of violence, so ignorant and uneducated that they'll follow whatever the nearest authority figure says without a second thought. People used to be more independant and rational, mostly as those who were dependent on the protection of others and that acted irrationallly died quickly. Take Robert Ford for example, he shot Jesse James in the back while Mr. James was unarmed. Oh, he got the fame of killing the legendary outlaw, but also the unanimous contempt of the entire nation. He killed Jesse James, but he did not DEFEAT Jesse James. It was the Western equivalent of stabbing Ghengis Khan in the back or poisoning Hanzo Hattori.
jack played his Joker in the style of Cesar Romero (1966). later Jokers were based on comic book versions. The old batman (1966-1989) was a lot more simple and kiddie.
I remember when it was reported that Michael Keaton was going to be Batman in a serious Batman movie, a lot of people didn’t think it would be good cause he was a comedian and comedic actor, starring in Mr. Mom, Gung Ho, Beetlejuice, Night Shift, The Dream Team, he was also in Clean and Sober, they probably thought it would be similar to the 1960’s Batman show and movie, good movies Keaton had been in after Batman, The Paper, Multiplicity, Birdman, Pacific Heights
@@ashrafulanam7882 Yeah, I remember that, when I heard about how some people didn’t think Ben would be good as Batman it reminded me of the ones that didn’t think Keaton was going to be a good Batman until he did, so it helped me to think Ben could be good as Batman and he was, I think I heard a little bit of the same that some didn’t have much confidence on Pattinson but he did good
@@jaypeve But as a Batman fan I think the backlash against Pattinson was justified, though I would blame the director more than him. Don't get me wrong, he is a great actor but not fit for the role, esp. after how Affleck blew it out of the park, the most tragic thing being the studio robbing him of his own solo movie.
53:17 The "laughing bag" is a real toy. It was first called a "Lachsack" in 1968 by German inventor Walter Thiele. It is a simple bag that contains a small battery-powered device that plays recorded laughter. Kind of creepy!!
Btw Michael Keaton, who played Batman in this movie was also portraying Betelgeuse/Beetlejuice in Beetlejuice, which you watched a while back. The insane "ghost with the most". Shows how wide a range Keaton has in acting. 39:38 kinda shows the Beetlejuice side.
At the End when the Joker plummeted He had a "Laughing Box" in his pocket that was pulled'Out,,,youd buy'm at Spencer's just a small pink plastic box w/speaker vents on one side and an off/on switch and could hang'm on doors or manually trigger'm to start Laughing,,,,this wasnt to long after the Pet Rock craze that swept the Nation🇺🇸
This movie came out my last year of high school. I can not begin to tell you how HUGE this was. Plus, Prince doing the soundtrack was the cherry on top.
This Joker, Jack Nicholson, one of America’s greatest actors-my favorite of his Chinatown, best for MMLs I think, As Good As It Gets, acclaimed One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest probably the best female villain in film history
DC has always set the bar high for the genre when the right directors were hired and allowed to do their job. DC ain't for popcorn flicks or movies made by the committee, they are for directorial visions. Every time DC failed it was because of studio exec/producer intervention when they think they know better.
From what I understand, the origin of Batman was that Joe Chill killed Thomas and Martha Wayne when they were coming out of a theater after watching Zorro, Bruce’s father was a doctor, since Bruce’s parents were killed using a gun, Batman doesn’t use a gun or kill criminals but helps them get caught by the police, but in these movies I guess Batman sometimes has to kill even if he didn’t want to be a killer like the one that killed his parents, the Joker was Arthur trying to be a comic, became desperate for money and became a criminal named the Red Hood cause he wore a red covering over his head, one time while running away from Batman he fell into some chemicals and turned into the Joker
I saw this is the cinema when it first came out and it was astounding. You need to realise that before this we only had the camp TV show from the 60s with Adam West (it was still shown on TV on the weekend for kids in the UK). This was the movie that opened up the doors to all the modern, darker, Batman movies that we have today.
Not the Batman movie I grew up with, but you always have to appreciate the classics. Especially Tim Burton’s vision for this. Great reaction as always! 😌
I collected the Batman comics (all reissues) from the 1940's. The Joker was killed at the end, but you see him come back again as the second issue reflected how he survived. The way I looked at this version of the Joker was the vac of chemical waste he fell in had changed him and the Chemicals gave him Immortality. That's why at the end they pulled out the laughing thing from his pocket as he will live again. He can't die. Plus I like the feather thing Chi had on her head.
Fun facts: Jack Nicholson believed in this movie *so much* that he took a percentage of the box office, over a upfront paycheque. He made *over 75 million!* -The Joker's colours are the same as the LA Lakers because Jack is a big Lakers fan.
4:07 "If you say that one thing is synonymous with another, you mean that the two things are so closely connected in most people's minds that one suggests the other" Cambridge Dictionary
Joker's main henchman is played by an actor named Walter Tracy. The role he plays didn't exist in the film at all but Nicolson insisted he be in the film as a condition of him playing Joker so they wrote a part for him. Jack and Walter were good friends and have done alot of films together.
Me alegra que hayáis reaccionado a esta peli. En sus tiempos marcó un antes y un después porque solo Supermán en su momento cambió la historia de los súper héroes en el cine y se habían quedado un poco estancados. Por cierto... yo tengo una foto con el batmóvil de esta peli de un viaje que hice a Los Ángeles.
The 'Dance with the Devil' line is just some dark poetic line to say to a victim, it isn't referencing a famous poem or anything. It is similar to Jules reciting the Bible verse in Pulp Fiction.
This was the movie that started taking the superhero movies serious and dark, before this one was the Adam West Batman and Christopher Reeves Superman, even Christopher Reeve’s Superman was more serious than 1960’s Batman
This is my Batman. Jack just eats up the screen...There is also a cameo appearance from Bob Kane the creator/writer of Batman in the comics. Now you have to watch the sequel with Catwoman.
In a lot of the comics it depicts Bruce Wayne is the alter ego of Batman. As in he sees himself as Batman and Bruce Wayne is the fake identity. In one of the cartoons (Batman Beyond) a villain is making him hear things, like another voice in his head. One of the ways he knew he wasn't crazy was the voice kept calling him Bruce, but in his mind he doesn't refer to himself as Bruce.
Hot take, but I think the best aspect of this film isn’t Batman or the story, it’s the art direction, tone, and Danny Elfman's incredible soundtrack. Production designer Anthony Francis Anton Furst created an amazing Gothic Revival Art Deco wonderland that feels like Gotham City was pulled straight from the comics, making it, in my opinion, still the best live-action depiction of Gotham. I also love the film’s timeless quality, as if Gotham is suspended between the 1930s and 1980s, a hybrid of old meets new, an element that Batman: The Animated Series explores beautifully as well. When it comes to the narrative, it’s decent, but for a Batman film, it feels far more centered on the Joker. There’s no doubt that Jack Nicholson nailed the character. Michael Keaton is an enjoyable Batman, embracing the wildness of the role, but he never got the development needed to fully become my favorite Batman. Among the early Batman films, I’ve always felt that Val Kilmer offered the best blend of Batman and Bruce Wayne, especially in the rumored director’s cut, which would have explored Batman's darker psyche even more deeply in deleted scenes. Films like Mask of the Phantasm is the perfect example of what Batman (1989) could've been if it focused more on Batman/Bruce as a character. The biggest flaw of this film, at least in my eyes, is Batman killing. It’s something I’ve never liked, and these films don’t even question or address Batman taking lives. While it’s true that Batman originally killed and even carried a pistol in his first appearance, the no-killing rule was introduced just a year later, in 1940. That said, I still really enjoy this film. Batman: The Animated Series took what worked from these movies, mostly the art direction and improved on it, so without these films, we might never have gotten the iconic animated series.
I have taken women to dates at museums. Some have small restaurants and are good for lunch or an early dinner. If it's warm enough, some museums also have great areas for picnics. BTW, the laughing at the end of the movie when the Joker was dead was from something called A Bag Full Of Laughs. It's a cheap gag they would sell in comic book ads and joke/magic shops. It's literally just a bag with a recording of someone laughing. It used to be common to sarcastically call someone who was always grumpy or miserable "a bag of laughs".
53:14 "Careful with that." That bag contains the device that's providing the laugh sound effect. That's why Commissioner Gordon found it, just now. What's _eerie_ is that Joker just happened to have it and switched it on while he was falling.
Loved your reaction. Was so genuine and engaging. The commentery was one of the best ive seen with this movie. And the understanding of what was happening was good too. You girls and angels are becoming my favorite channels cuz you're not only all beautiful, but your reactions are adorable as well.
I saw this movie in theaters. I remember that weeks earlier, people came to the theaters to watch the trailer for this movie. You see we didn't have all the digital stuff of today. The theater was packed when I and my five young buddies went to see it. Everybody went absolutely BONKERS when the theme came on. What a fantastic movie then and now!
"Mano y mano" is a borrowed phrase from Spanish. It literally means "hand and hand," which is equivalent to the English "hand to hand." In other words, a direct confrontation instead of trying to oppose each other from a distance.
@@NarwahlGaming I love that movie. "Man to man" might not be a literal translation of the phrase, but it still fits the spirit of it. And it's such a great line in the movie that I can forgive the inaccuracy. I would recommend that movie to these ladies, but Hela has already reacted to it.
@@NarwahlGaming Plus it sounds so similar that it kind of feels like it should be the translation. I might correct someone who makes that mistake, but I wouldn't fault them for it. By the way, if anyone is wondering what movie we're talking about, it's Robin Hood: Men in Tights.
47:19 - This scene reminds me of the scene from the Dark Knight, where Batman charged at the Joker on his motorcycle. I wonder if that was an intentional reference to this in the Dark Knight movie.
Mano y Mano is Spanish that means hand and hand, the y makes the e sound and the a makes the ah sound, it’s read mahno e mahno, I think it’s actually supposed to be Mano a Mano, so it’s read mahno ah mahno, the a doesn’t make the long a sound like ae, Mano a Mano is hand to hand, which is not just one on one but more specific empty hands fight with out weapons, more fair bare knuckle fighting, no gloves or tricks or cheating
*"Ever dance with the devil by the pale moonlight?" is one of those movie lines that always sticks in your head. And it really feeds into the amount of insanity Jack Nicholson put into playing The Joker.* *On another note, I would really love to have a Lego set based on the 1989 Batmobile. I got the 1960s TV show Batmobile two Christmases ago as a gift. I love it, but a movie Batmobile would look amazing in my collection too.*
19:17 this is an American model that used to be married to the lead singer for a British Rock Band, The Rolling Stones, Mick Jagger. She is a very tall woman.
Vicky finding out about Bruce was something the Studio INSISTED ON! That's why Alfred just brought her to the cave. They had no other way to do it since they had shot so much of the film and hadn't wanted to have her find out at all....They'd planned on doing at least 3 movies and had time.
I think of the line “ Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light ?” is the Joker asking have you been in a near death experience where you find out you will not go to heaven when you die, so you stop trying to be good and “dance with the devil” or do bad things because, ultimately you know you will not go to heaven so you might as well have “fun” even if it hurts everybody else around you. In a way he is asking “Are you like me?” before he kills you.
@ You are goofy if you think the devil shows up to a near death experience for everyone. I don’t know what your religion is and I don’t really care to know. I started my statement with “I think “ meaning it is my opinion. Your comment is unnecessary stay in your lane.
In the flashback, Bruce wasn't remembering the smile so much as the expression, "Have you ever danced with the Devil in the pale moonlight?" The Joker said it to him in Vicky Vale's apartment, just before shooting him. And Bruce was re-reading the account of his parents' murder, and had a flashback to that fateful evening, and remembered his parents' killer saying it to him when he was a boy.
Chi: “Why they make date at the museum?” *Hela turns to her* Hela: “It’s good! Yeah!” Ah, Hela’s got taste if she has an appreciation for art. And it’s funny because Jack’s Joker’s artistic flair is one of the reasons he’s my favorite incarnation of The Joker
I have a comic where it talks about an old bat costume Batman has in the Batcave that was worn by his father in a costume party and his dad help someone in trouble while wearing it, and another where after many years of fighting crime Batman finds Joe Chill that had killed his parents when he was a small time crook but now he was a boss, Batman took of his mask and told Joe who he was and Joe tried running away but outside some other criminals killed him because he had given some info to the police, so Bruce saw the killer of his parents get killed with out him having to do it, kinda like in Batman Begins
The past of the Joker, who he was before he became that.....none of that matters. Joker doesn't know who he used to be either or care about finding out, much like he doesn't care who Batman is under the mask or what created him. What matters is that the Joker exists, that Batman exists, and that they are obsessed with one another in a never ending battle that they both enjoy deep down in a way that is caught somewhere between the deepest loathing, obsessive compulsion, and a cerebral romance. It is like an eternal playground game without any rules or ways to win, there's only the collateral damage and chaos left in the wake of their little game. Oh yes and I almost forget to tell you ladies: you both look truly heavenly in those dresses. If I walked into a room and saw either of you dressed as you are, I'd be speechless. You both would have me stuttering and stalling if I tried to speak. I enjoyed the review very much as a lifelong Batman fan (more due to the BatFamily as a whole than Bruce, as Jason was the reason I got into the rest of the comics as I really identified with the kid) and loved how fresh both of your perspectives were as it is always a pleasure to see others come to enjoy one of my longest running literary passions.
It was funny at the end on top of the tower ledge when Joker said sometimes he just kills him self, a saying that people say when something is so funny they could just die laughing
It’s a good thing Vicky wasn’t trying to look in the box that Joker brought to her place while she was opening it, those flowers would have hit her in the eye
In the comic book version of this movie, it might also be in the novel version, and I think it was also a deleted scene, when Batman rescued Vicky from the Joker in the museum, after Joker says “Where does he get those wonderful toys?” he then tells them “Well don’t just stand there go and ask him!” I think that would have been good to have in the movie
The big duckaroo is like the big fight, I think it comes from the saying or phrase put up your dukes that means put up your fists, ready to fight on guard, somehow dukes means fists
I love when Chi said: “Why go on a date to a museum?” And Hella looks at her like she’s crazy. “Because it’s good!” 😂
Museum dates are really fun
Her name is actually Hella?! Hmm, fitting. She looks like a pretty pink flower blossom that would be perfect for the world's most comforting and soft cuddle/hug. Chi looks like a Princess attending the annual masquarade ball as a heavenly spirit or messenger, all elegant yet blunt and honest in that way Princesses tend to be when they don't care enough to lie.
Never understood why there was a restaurant in an art museum full of famous works of art. Being around all that steam and smoke would be bad for paintings.
Exactly
@@Jim-Mcquestioning the logic in a Tim Burton film is sort of...ummm...
Hella was hilarious in this reaction!
"Hello Legs"
Hella: She has a name!
"You're crazy!"
Hella: He is! But you don't need to point it out...
Hella: He's dead, you don't need to talk to him!
"He stole my balloons!"
Hella: It's okay, we'll get you a new one
Hella has a modern view on things-and shares!
she's too cute
These ladies are always so genuinely invested no matter what movie they watch. They also really pay attention to what's happening and are trying to figure things out. It's a really fun channel.
Cultural differences. It’s true
Yeah. I discovered this channel a few weeks back and I think out of all the "first time watching movies" channels (most of which I think are fake), they give real reactions.
@@michaelschroeck2254 I think I am beginning to prefer their culture to our own.
I as a lifelong Batman fan now realize I haven't paid that much attention lol
Agreed. That’s all I’ve ever asked of a reaction. The same I would expect in real life. 💯
The intro with the parents and boy was what you would call a "bait and switch".
It was intentional that they wanted the audience to predictably think that it was Batman and his parents, so they could subvert the audience's expectation.
Yeah the audience were probably thinking they're getting an origin story. Burton and Warren Skarren were like this ain't Superman, kids.
46:29 “I know it’s ok we’ll get you another one” perfect response to joker in that scene😂😂
Keaton as Batman and Nicholson as Joker were perfect casting
My father said, when I was younger, Gotham breeds better men.
@thetruej7872 agreed, plus Keaton's line "I'm Batman" is still iconic
Agreed🍺,,,the chemistry was 1 inna Million
At the time, Keaton's casting was kind of controversial since he was just kind of Mr. Mom, clowny comedian. Supposedly, he was cast because they felt he was the best Bruce Wayne.
Don't forget Kim Basinger as Vicky Vale! She's stunning and her scream is one of the best, it has been used as a sample on Prince's music and elsewhere as it's so good. 39:51
Jack Nicholson's Joker was amazing and perfectly Psychotic but most importantly his Joker laugh is memorable
Still my favorite Joker.
He understood the assignment
Even more considering that, as it seems, Nicholson played no similar role till then.
@@Alantheleopard true dat
Hella: Can I go to the party too?
Me: **nearly chokes on my tea laughing**
This and Batman Returns are some of the best movies in history!
I watched this movie in 1989 on theater when I was 12 years old. I never forget.
Joker: "Those were my balloons."
Hella: "I know.... its ok. We'll get you another one." 😆😂🤣🤣
Joker: "HE STOLE MY BALLOONS!!"
Hella: "WE KNOW!!" 😆🤣😂
John Williams' Superman score and Danny Elfman's Batman one are two of the most iconic superhero soundtracks ever. The Batman '66 theme is pretty recognizable, as well, in a delightfully kitschy way.
Agreed. Those and Alan Silvestri's Back to the Future score are my favorites.
@Billinois78 The BTTF orchestral soundtrack is a thing of absolute beauty.
Nicholson delivered a spectacular performance, equal parts comedic and utterly terrifying. The perfect monster clown to contrast/clash Batman. The reveal in Bruce's past was unnerving especially with Jack's slasher smile.
Now this is the Batman of my youth. Absolutely loved this version of the batmobile, the outfit, etc.
I was 10 years old when my family and I watched this on video just after it was in theaters at home. Great memory. :)
51:06 - Chi- "He needs to be beaten for a while first" (before Batman kills the Joker) Chi is a vengeful angel!
42:35 - Finding someone who looks like a young Jack Nicholson was a heckuva find. Those eyebrows of his are iconic, and that smile (even before the Joker transformation). Hugo Blick was perfect casting.
Lol, u seen his son? They are identical 😅
@@danielbyrne5402 Of course, Ray Nicholson was less than three years old when this film was made, so probably didn't have enough screen experience to double his dad for that scene, at the time. 😁
@TSIRKLAND lol, nahh, if the looks run in the family, so does the talent, I say bring on baby joker "hewwo uncie batz, I wanna play with bat car" "NO, you can't joker, it's dangerous and it time for your nap" "naaaw! I bash you, I bop you I..." "rockaby baby..." "zzzzz"
They could have cast Christian Slater as young Nicholson. He even sounds like him.
@@Billinois78 True! Slater would have been about 20 at the time. He definitely has the eyebrows and the voice. I have wondered that they've never been cast as father and son (that I know of).
Ever dance with the devil on a pale moon night is what the Joker told Wayne’s parents just before he killed them. He also said it when he broke into Vicky Val‘s apartment!That’s when Wayne figured out that the Joker was the one who killed his parents.
Just a quick correction: it's "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?".
When the Joker and his mimes interrupted the press conference, he said it to the mob boss wannabe, is when Bruce connected it.
Always wondered about that old not hitting a guy with glasses saying, Looked it up, here someone made a good explanation.
"In the “good old days,” boys often fought, and adults didn’t break them up unless the fight was considered unfair. An unfair fight would be a fight between a much smaller and a much larger boy, a fight where one of the boys didn’t want to fight and was trying to run away, or a fight that included an extra person.
There was one very important rule. You don’t hit someone who wears glasses. Why you may ask? There were three reasons.
1. First, glasses were expensive back then, and very few children wore them. The ones who did really needed them, and if they broke their glasses it would be a huge problem - they wouldn't be able to see in class and it would cost their parents lots of money to replace them. Also, it used to take a long time to get glasses made, so the child could be without them for a while.
2. Second, a child with glasses often could not see without them, so taking the glasses off was not an option. If the child too the glasses off and couldn’t see well, he was at a terrible disadvantage, and therefore it was not a “fair” fight. In the old days, we were all about “fair fights.” It was a part of our lives that was ingrained in us.
3. And third, it used to be that glasses were made out of glass. If they broke, they could break in sharp little pieces, and damage the child’s eyes! Punching a child with glasses could lead to his glasses shattering, cutting his eye, and blinding him or permanently damaging his eyes. This was definitely “not a fair fight.”
We all knew from a very young age that you don’t hit someone with glasses."
Chi is too adorable!
The classic Batman!
Well, at least for me! Baby of the 80's!
51:32 There was a rule that people should never ever hit a person who wears glasses (other than hitting someone outside of defence would be assault). In the past glasses were genuinely made of glass (there weren't the plastic and/or shatter-proof lenses that you can get nowadays) so hitting someone in the face who wore glasses ran the risk of seriously damaging that person's eyes with glass shards as the lenses broke, potentially causing blindness.
Another thing is that glasses back then were, from what older generations have told me, a lot more expensive then than they are now, so would cost a lot more to replace by comparison.
There also used to be a rule about shooting unarmed people or even drawing a weapon on one, regardless of if you were a Police Officer or everyday Citizen. Mostly because said Citizens were former soldiers with kills under their belt that REACT on reflex when a weapon is reached for, no matter if the one grabbing for it was wearing a badge or not; a lethal threat was issued and must be dealt with. There was a time when that was common sense and anyone that broke those rules were considered the laughing stock of the countryside, relentlessly humiliated or even tar and feathered.
So long as you were not armed with a sidearm, you did not have to fear any challenges or harm from someone with a weapon. Pistols are the only class of firearm intended purely for murder. Rifles and shotguns were an exception, carried for personal protection from animals and used for hunting. A teenager used to be able to walk into a store, lean their long-arm against the counter or sling it over their shoulder without worry of it being considered robbery; it wasn't even thought of as strange. A person had to protect themselves and provide for their families, plus not all who wore badges were good people and society accepted that.
Nowadays, the media and governments have ensured their people are so afraid of violence, so ignorant and uneducated that they'll follow whatever the nearest authority figure says without a second thought. People used to be more independant and rational, mostly as those who were dependent on the protection of others and that acted irrationallly died quickly. Take Robert Ford for example, he shot Jesse James in the back while Mr. James was unarmed. Oh, he got the fame of killing the legendary outlaw, but also the unanimous contempt of the entire nation. He killed Jesse James, but he did not DEFEAT Jesse James. It was the Western equivalent of stabbing Ghengis Khan in the back or poisoning Hanzo Hattori.
jack played his Joker in the style of Cesar Romero (1966). later Jokers were based on comic book versions. The old batman (1966-1989) was a lot more simple and kiddie.
I saw Cesar Romero shock a police officer with the hand buzzer as joker, I wonder if the scene in the movie was Tim Burton's nod to the original?
The Joker laughing as he walks away from charcoal dude he just fried Haunted me for a great'while after i saw this bNd🌎
I remember when it was reported that Michael Keaton was going to be Batman in a serious Batman movie, a lot of people didn’t think it would be good cause he was a comedian and comedic actor, starring in Mr. Mom, Gung Ho, Beetlejuice, Night Shift, The Dream Team, he was also in Clean and Sober, they probably thought it would be similar to the 1960’s Batman show and movie, good movies Keaton had been in after Batman, The Paper, Multiplicity, Birdman, Pacific Heights
Don't forget his GREATEST work...Johnny Dangerously. That fargin' bastage was something else.
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My father hung me up on a door once, Once
Same happened with Ben Affleck and the two of them turned out to be the best Batmen.
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Yeah, I remember that, when I heard about how some people didn’t think Ben would be good as Batman it reminded me of the ones that didn’t think Keaton was going to be a good Batman until he did, so it helped me to think Ben could be good as Batman and he was, I think I heard a little bit of the same that some didn’t have much confidence on Pattinson but he did good
@@jaypeve But as a Batman fan I think the backlash against Pattinson was justified, though I would blame the director more than him. Don't get me wrong, he is a great actor but not fit for the role, esp. after how Affleck blew it out of the park, the most tragic thing being the studio robbing him of his own solo movie.
53:17 The "laughing bag" is a real toy. It was first called a "Lachsack" in 1968 by German inventor Walter Thiele.
It is a simple bag that contains a small battery-powered device that plays recorded laughter. Kind of creepy!!
Btw Michael Keaton, who played Batman in this movie was also portraying Betelgeuse/Beetlejuice in Beetlejuice, which you watched a while back. The insane "ghost with the most". Shows how wide a range Keaton has in acting. 39:38 kinda shows the Beetlejuice side.
Good luck when he knocks on your door.
My favorite Vietnamese girls watching my favorite movie!
Perfection!
At the End when the Joker plummeted He had a "Laughing Box" in his pocket that was pulled'Out,,,youd buy'm at Spencer's just a small pink plastic box w/speaker vents on one side and an off/on switch and could hang'm on doors or manually trigger'm to start Laughing,,,,this wasnt to long after the Pet Rock craze that swept the Nation🇺🇸
This movie came out my last year of high school. I can not begin to tell you how HUGE this was. Plus, Prince doing the soundtrack was the cherry on top.
This Joker, Jack Nicholson, one of America’s greatest actors-my favorite of his Chinatown, best for MMLs I think, As Good As It Gets, acclaimed One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest probably the best female villain in film history
This Batman Returns and Superman 78 set the bar high for superhero films
DC has always set the bar high for the genre when the right directors were hired and allowed to do their job. DC ain't for popcorn flicks or movies made by the committee, they are for directorial visions. Every time DC failed it was because of studio exec/producer intervention when they think they know better.
@@ashrafulanam7882 Exactly
From what I understand, the origin of Batman was that Joe Chill killed Thomas and Martha Wayne when they were coming out of a theater after watching Zorro, Bruce’s father was a doctor, since Bruce’s parents were killed using a gun, Batman doesn’t use a gun or kill criminals but helps them get caught by the police, but in these movies I guess Batman sometimes has to kill even if he didn’t want to be a killer like the one that killed his parents, the Joker was Arthur trying to be a comic, became desperate for money and became a criminal named the Red Hood cause he wore a red covering over his head, one time while running away from Batman he fell into some chemicals and turned into the Joker
I saw this is the cinema when it first came out and it was astounding. You need to realise that before this we only had the camp TV show from the 60s with Adam West (it was still shown on TV on the weekend for kids in the UK). This was the movie that opened up the doors to all the modern, darker, Batman movies that we have today.
The soundtrack is legendary, as is Jack's performance. And Hela, I would love to take you to a museum 🥰
Not the Batman movie I grew up with, but you always have to appreciate the classics. Especially Tim Burton’s vision for this. Great reaction as always! 😌
This is the Batman movie I grew up with. Love this version of the Batmobile.
I collected the Batman comics (all reissues) from the 1940's. The Joker was killed at the end, but you see him come back again as the second issue reflected how he survived. The way I looked at this version of the Joker was the vac of chemical waste he fell in had changed him and the Chemicals gave him Immortality. That's why at the end they pulled out the laughing thing from his pocket as he will live again. He can't die.
Plus I like the feather thing Chi had on her head.
Compared to the preceding tv series this was a very serious movie.
Me and my friends get high and watch the 60s series as a joke! So corny!
@@seanstinchfield-mp2xm still love the characters and the jokes! I can watch it sober!
It still is.
Keaton will always be my favorite Batman.
Vale: You’re insane.
Joker: and I thought I was a Pisces.
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Who says he's not both?
To be fair, I think the 1966 Batman film starring Adam West would be considered the old one.
43:47 *Coolest and cutest photo click ever* 📸🦇
Fun facts: Jack Nicholson believed in this movie *so much* that he took a percentage of the box office, over a upfront paycheque. He made *over 75 million!*
-The Joker's colours are the same as the LA Lakers because Jack is a big Lakers fan.
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Actually, Chi, Eckhardt is on Grissom's payroll
4:07 "If you say that one thing is synonymous with another, you mean that the two things are so closely connected in most people's minds that one suggests the other" Cambridge Dictionary
The Japanese armor is the model used for the Bat suit.
Joker's main henchman is played by an actor named Walter Tracy.
The role he plays didn't exist in the film at all but Nicolson insisted he be in the film as a condition of him playing Joker so they wrote a part for him.
Jack and Walter were good friends and have done alot of films together.
Me alegra que hayáis reaccionado a esta peli. En sus tiempos marcó un antes y un después porque solo Supermán en su momento cambió la historia de los súper héroes en el cine y se habían quedado un poco estancados. Por cierto... yo tengo una foto con el batmóvil de esta peli de un viaje que hice a Los Ángeles.
Your reaction to the Joker's lethal Joy buzzer was priceless ;)
For me still the best Batman. Keaton was great. And Nicholsons Joker with Prince's music? Perfection.
Batman:”You killed my parents.”
Joker:”Do you have any idea how much that doesn’t narrow it down?”
The 'Dance with the Devil' line is just some dark poetic line to say to a victim, it isn't referencing a famous poem or anything.
It is similar to Jules reciting the Bible verse in Pulp Fiction.
I’d forgotten that line “have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?” 😈
This was the movie that started taking the superhero movies serious and dark, before this one was the Adam West Batman and Christopher Reeves Superman, even Christopher Reeve’s Superman was more serious than 1960’s Batman
This is my Batman. Jack just eats up the screen...There is also a cameo appearance from Bob Kane the creator/writer of Batman in the comics. Now you have to watch the sequel with Catwoman.
They did. It's on their Patreon already.
It's no secret that Bob Kane screwed over Bill Finger who was guy who did most of work when it comes to creating and writing Batman.
"Hey! That's expensive!" 😄 I like Hella's taste in dates.
In a lot of the comics it depicts Bruce Wayne is the alter ego of Batman. As in he sees himself as Batman and Bruce Wayne is the fake identity. In one of the cartoons (Batman Beyond) a villain is making him hear things, like another voice in his head. One of the ways he knew he wasn't crazy was the voice kept calling him Bruce, but in his mind he doesn't refer to himself as Bruce.
Hot take, but I think the best aspect of this film isn’t Batman or the story, it’s the art direction, tone, and Danny Elfman's incredible soundtrack. Production designer Anthony Francis Anton Furst created an amazing Gothic Revival Art Deco wonderland that feels like Gotham City was pulled straight from the comics, making it, in my opinion, still the best live-action depiction of Gotham. I also love the film’s timeless quality, as if Gotham is suspended between the 1930s and 1980s, a hybrid of old meets new, an element that Batman: The Animated Series explores beautifully as well.
When it comes to the narrative, it’s decent, but for a Batman film, it feels far more centered on the Joker. There’s no doubt that Jack Nicholson nailed the character. Michael Keaton is an enjoyable Batman, embracing the wildness of the role, but he never got the development needed to fully become my favorite Batman. Among the early Batman films, I’ve always felt that Val Kilmer offered the best blend of Batman and Bruce Wayne, especially in the rumored director’s cut, which would have explored Batman's darker psyche even more deeply in deleted scenes. Films like Mask of the Phantasm is the perfect example of what Batman (1989) could've been if it focused more on Batman/Bruce as a character.
The biggest flaw of this film, at least in my eyes, is Batman killing. It’s something I’ve never liked, and these films don’t even question or address Batman taking lives. While it’s true that Batman originally killed and even carried a pistol in his first appearance, the no-killing rule was introduced just a year later, in 1940. That said, I still really enjoy this film. Batman: The Animated Series took what worked from these movies, mostly the art direction and improved on it, so without these films, we might never have gotten the iconic animated series.
This Gotham is the best Gotham
I have taken women to dates at museums. Some have small restaurants and are good for lunch or an early dinner. If it's warm enough, some museums also have great areas for picnics. BTW, the laughing at the end of the movie when the Joker was dead was from something called A Bag Full Of Laughs. It's a cheap gag they would sell in comic book ads and joke/magic shops. It's literally just a bag with a recording of someone laughing. It used to be common to sarcastically call someone who was always grumpy or miserable "a bag of laughs".
Batman is a story full of avatars. Joker represents chaos, Batman represents order...penguin is corruption, etc...
"Burn, baby, burn!"
and Arnold represents bad puns
Ah yes, the outlaw vigilante represents order.
@@yaelz6043 He is law part of trinity aka DC's three biggest heroes. Other two being Superman who is hope and Wonder Woman who is truth.
Prince did the entire soundtrack to this film.
This has always been my favorite version of Batman.
53:14 "Careful with that."
That bag contains the device that's providing the laugh sound effect. That's why Commissioner Gordon found it, just now. What's _eerie_ is that Joker just happened to have it and switched it on while he was falling.
So Bruce became Batman to try to prevent what happened to him from happening to someone else, and he dressed as a bat to frighten the criminals
Loved your reaction. Was so genuine and engaging. The commentery was one of the best ive seen with this movie. And the understanding of what was happening was good too. You girls and angels are becoming my favorite channels cuz you're not only all beautiful, but your reactions are adorable as well.
I saw this movie in theaters. I remember that weeks earlier, people came to the theaters to watch the trailer for this movie. You see we didn't have all the digital stuff of today. The theater was packed when I and my five young buddies went to see it. Everybody went absolutely BONKERS when the theme came on. What a fantastic movie then and now!
"Mano y mano" is a borrowed phrase from Spanish. It literally means "hand and hand," which is equivalent to the English "hand to hand." In other words, a direct confrontation instead of trying to oppose each other from a distance.
_"Mano y Mano. Man to man. Me and my... GUARDS!!"_
@@NarwahlGaming I love that movie. "Man to man" might not be a literal translation of the phrase, but it still fits the spirit of it. And it's such a great line in the movie that I can forgive the inaccuracy.
I would recommend that movie to these ladies, but Hela has already reacted to it.
@toddhadley9002 Yeah. I figured the mistranslation was because the Sheriff wasn't too bright. 🤣
@@NarwahlGaming Plus it sounds so similar that it kind of feels like it should be the translation. I might correct someone who makes that mistake, but I wouldn't fault them for it.
By the way, if anyone is wondering what movie we're talking about, it's Robin Hood: Men in Tights.
Hela backing up museum dates was peak lol
Also, "Dancing with the Devil in the pale moonlight" means to do something fun with someone extremely dangerous and tempting in a beautiful backdrop.
47:19 - This scene reminds me of the scene from the Dark Knight, where Batman charged at the Joker on his motorcycle.
I wonder if that was an intentional reference to this in the Dark Knight movie.
i agree, both Jokers were taunting Bats as he made his attack
Mano y Mano is Spanish that means hand and hand, the y makes the e sound and the a makes the ah sound, it’s read mahno e mahno, I think it’s actually supposed to be Mano a Mano, so it’s read mahno ah mahno, the a doesn’t make the long a sound like ae, Mano a Mano is hand to hand, which is not just one on one but more specific empty hands fight with out weapons, more fair bare knuckle fighting, no gloves or tricks or cheating
*"Ever dance with the devil by the pale moonlight?" is one of those movie lines that always sticks in your head. And it really feeds into the amount of insanity Jack Nicholson put into playing The Joker.*
*On another note, I would really love to have a Lego set based on the 1989 Batmobile. I got the 1960s TV show Batmobile two Christmases ago as a gift. I love it, but a movie Batmobile would look amazing in my collection too.*
19:17 this is an American model that used to be married to the lead singer for a British Rock Band, The Rolling Stones, Mick Jagger. She is a very tall woman.
28:58...More "Prince" SoundTrack!!!!🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
18:33 Bruce Wayne hangs upside down.
Chi, "He's practice to be a bat."
Hella, "What the hell? That is weird. I'm gonna run!"
Vicky finding out about Bruce was something the Studio INSISTED ON! That's why Alfred just brought her to the cave. They had no other way to do it since they had shot so much of the film and hadn't wanted to have her find out at all....They'd planned on doing at least 3 movies and had time.
definitely thr best Batmobile!!!! and my favorite batman, but I grew up with the burnton films.
Your channel is phenomenal .🥰🥋💪🏽
I heard that the first song Prince learned to play on the piano when he was young was the 1960’s Batman theme
I think of the line “ Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moon light ?” is the Joker asking have you been in a near death experience where you find out you will not go to heaven when you die, so you stop trying to be good and “dance with the devil” or do bad things because, ultimately you know you will not go to heaven so you might as well have “fun” even if it hurts everybody else around you. In a way he is asking “Are you like me?” before he kills you.
'Dancing with the devil' just means a near death experience. Your position in heaven or hell is not part of the saying.
@ You are goofy if you think the devil shows up to a near death experience for everyone. I don’t know what your religion is and I don’t really care to know. I started my statement with “I think “ meaning it is my opinion. Your comment is unnecessary stay in your lane.
In the flashback, Bruce wasn't remembering the smile so much as the expression, "Have you ever danced with the Devil in the pale moonlight?" The Joker said it to him in Vicky Vale's apartment, just before shooting him. And Bruce was re-reading the account of his parents' murder, and had a flashback to that fateful evening, and remembered his parents' killer saying it to him when he was a boy.
Jack Nicholson really knows how to play the part.
I'm glad you watched this movie. If you guys watch The Flash(2023) the call backs in that movie will make more sense to you.
@18:28... Chi, "Come to my house, see my richness, then...here" Lol! I can't!!🤣🤣
😂 "I'm gonna run." What's wrong with a guy hanging upside down from his feet? 😂
Glad you 2 are watching these older Batmans. Very different but very good acting in both
Pretty Outfits Ladies , I love your reactions! 💜(Jack Nicholson is great in this!)
Thank you!! 😊
Chi: “Why they make date at the museum?”
*Hela turns to her*
Hela: “It’s good! Yeah!”
Ah, Hela’s got taste if she has an appreciation for art. And it’s funny because Jack’s Joker’s artistic flair is one of the reasons he’s my favorite incarnation of The Joker
I have a comic where it talks about an old bat costume Batman has in the Batcave that was worn by his father in a costume party and his dad help someone in trouble while wearing it, and another where after many years of fighting crime Batman finds Joe Chill that had killed his parents when he was a small time crook but now he was a boss, Batman took of his mask and told Joe who he was and Joe tried running away but outside some other criminals killed him because he had given some info to the police, so Bruce saw the killer of his parents get killed with out him having to do it, kinda like in Batman Begins
44:03 Batman doesn't kill, he just blows people
everyone he fights just gets really sleepy...
@@davidburton9690 Badman "Look at that poor little guy. He's all tuckered out."
Penguin "Oh, my God! Do you not know what death is!"
52:28 Oh, dragon go down. "Here you go, here you go." 😂 So cute
15:02 Bruce: Do you want to get out of here?
Hella: Yes, please.
(Look at how she says it with such conviction) Hella, WHAT were you thinking!! 😄
Hela is so entertained with Jack's Joker especially in the museum scene hahah
The past of the Joker, who he was before he became that.....none of that matters. Joker doesn't know who he used to be either or care about finding out, much like he doesn't care who Batman is under the mask or what created him. What matters is that the Joker exists, that Batman exists, and that they are obsessed with one another in a never ending battle that they both enjoy deep down in a way that is caught somewhere between the deepest loathing, obsessive compulsion, and a cerebral romance. It is like an eternal playground game without any rules or ways to win, there's only the collateral damage and chaos left in the wake of their little game.
Oh yes and I almost forget to tell you ladies: you both look truly heavenly in those dresses. If I walked into a room and saw either of you dressed as you are, I'd be speechless. You both would have me stuttering and stalling if I tried to speak. I enjoyed the review very much as a lifelong Batman fan (more due to the BatFamily as a whole than Bruce, as Jason was the reason I got into the rest of the comics as I really identified with the kid) and loved how fresh both of your perspectives were as it is always a pleasure to see others come to enjoy one of my longest running literary passions.
It was funny at the end on top of the tower ledge when Joker said sometimes he just kills him self, a saying that people say when something is so funny they could just die laughing
It’s a good thing Vicky wasn’t trying to look in the box that Joker brought to her place while she was opening it, those flowers would have hit her in the eye
In the comic book version of this movie, it might also be in the novel version, and I think it was also a deleted scene, when Batman rescued Vicky from the Joker in the museum, after Joker says “Where does he get those wonderful toys?” he then tells them “Well don’t just stand there go and ask him!” I think that would have been good to have in the movie
The big duckaroo is like the big fight, I think it comes from the saying or phrase put up your dukes that means put up your fists, ready to fight on guard, somehow dukes means fists
14:23 That is British Royal family dining.........The rooms in the castle's and Palace's are huge