EVGA created the mother of all boards... Z790 KINGPIN
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2023
- EVGA may have left the GPU market, but their motherboards are still world class!
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EVGA is like, the consumer who went into business for the consumer but knows they need to make money to stay. We cannot let these guys go away. Seriously, top tier company.
i want Intel to go to them and offer them to be the only ARC partner. Make EVGA their top shelf brand.
They need make regular priced motherboards if they want to stay in business. Since no more Nvidia GPUs.
@@Ludofjn no
Agreed, I'm saving money for one of their X570 motherboards just to support them
Humans work there that's why.
I just hope EVGA never goes out of business or sells. That company has always been good to me. Hopefully, they will expand into more mainstream motherboards in the future so they can grow that part of their business.
There are going the way of PC Power & Coolling.. Bought out and name used until it's worthless.
Every gpu I’ve had from them are amazing. Never had their mobo because I usually go Asus. I tried gigabyte and got shanked, so I don’t venture too far anymore 😂
Me as well. I still have their badass SC17 laptop with a desktop graphics card and still keep it as a media PC. But they will go under if they are selling obscure motherboards that are far worse than a $200 one that overclocks just fine, and supports more ram.
@@HydroKyl240COG Me too, I bought the z790 classified to benefit from that sweet support 😀
I would never buy an EVGA product. Never had anything but problems with anything they made. Cheap garbage.
I wish they would some upper-mainstream boards, still for enthusiasts, but maybe not so geared for extreme overclocking. They could expand their motherboard business that way and also more people would get to enjoy EVGA goodness.
They need some $300 boards, the Classified boards used to run around $300. I’m not paying $600 for a motherboard when a $300 board will do almost the same job.
Right now I have a z390 Dark, it was $500. The only thing it can do that other boards can’t do is stress testing in the bios, which is a convenience not worth $200. To be fair the memory compatibility is excellent, but any board can have that feature it’s all in the bios development.
I’d love to see boards starting at the ~$250+ range now that they don’t have a graphics department. Their graphics cards used to start in the affordable range as well. They don’t need every single confusing SKU other companies have (and I pray they never go that route), and they don’t even need to have more than the highest chipset, but a bit more selection would be great. I stopped buying in the $350+ tier since I/O expansion has gotten so cheap but I’d do it again for EVGA.
I think ASUS has that on lock.
Totally agree with this. I would love to have an Evga board in my build but with their current line there are just to many features I or even most people wouldn't use.
I remember I had a EVGA card that needed a bios update, I took to their location in La Habra CA, not far from me, and they did right there. Apple did the the same for me replacing a old white MacBook when I was in Las Vegas doing a major presentation. You appreciate companies that actually do something for you and understand it's important to you. I still use a EVGA 1050ti in my Ryzen 5600G build as card for using handbrake to encode, not for display. That was the magic about EVGA, knowing that you as a individual person, took care of it without a RMA form, or playing email tag. One call to a live person, and the problem was solved.
And they built such quality stuff in the first place that I don’t think I’ve ever had a part of theirs die on me.
@@M33f3r it's probably more possible breaking it in transit and because natural disasters if built correctly
I’m in Whittier, I never knew they were just around the corner!
I hope they do make am5 boards eventually. Would love to have one whenever I upgrade
$800 for a motherboard. Totally worth it :)
@@merlinwarage hey at least we don’t have to deal with a dead motherboard line every 2 generations. :)
but AMD CPU doesn't really overclock , they maxed out from the box
@@merlinwarage Prob worth more than your whole setup
I was looking at the Asus ProArt X670E. It has 8/8/4 PCIe, 10 and 2.5GBe, USB 4
Oh EVGA. I had all my GPU's from you, so seeing your name just makes me sad that I can't get GPU's anymore :(
I know right?? They were just soo good! If anything I'm angry at nVidia for making EVGA go out of the GPU business...
Haven’t bought a new gpu this generation cause no evga. Sad times…
me too, from the 9800GTX ALL the way to the 1080Ti! ALL EVGA!
@@octoman_games Heeey I'm on an EVGA 1080TI too! Still good IMO, played Cyberpunk 2077 on a 34" Acer predator and it worked well and looked not bad... I'd so love an RTX... But no EVGA no deal :(
Power supplies and Mobos!
I want to have a Evga board in a future build. Really hope they make consumer boards not just these ultra price boards
All of their MBs to date have been high end high price boards
Told myself I would never pay outrageous money for a motherboard ... last Asus board I purchased was $429.00 . Best board I have ever owned
They do some more affordable ones that are full custom
Wero Liera: An EVGA! Not “a” EVGA….
Still is a consumer board my friend just not the low budget one
It’s definitely a specialized board and it looks great. I hope they release sort of “XC” class of motherboard at some point. Their engineering is amazing, but it’s way beyond what I would ever use.
I'd really love it if the 24 pin and 8 pin being on the right side of the board became the norm for all mobos in all price ranges. It makes the 8 pin more accessible and having them turned makes for much cleaner cable management. It could end up being just the GPU cable/s that are visible in builds.
Its cuz initially its meant for a test bench setup.
I've long thought GPU power connectors should be on the end of the card instead of the side facing the panel. They don't want to interfere with length restrictions but with how chonky GPUs are getting now they're running into your side panel anyways.
Their motherboards are really hard to find in europe (including their own store) so i understand why they don't sell that many. I would love to see some AM5 boards in the future with better supply here.
EVGA is one of those companies that seems to obsessively care more about their products than anyone else, even if it costs them extra to make something. It is a solid company.
Seems simple to me. EVGA is out of the GPU market, blow up the MB market. High end to low(er) end. The last EVGA MB I had personally was the EVGA X58 SLI Classified, so that was a while ago. I'd have gone EVGA for my AM4 setup but they were late and limited. I have always appreciated the thought they put into their products, for a long time they had a pretty good edge over others. Also their customer service has completely outshown the competition. Jacob has been incredible. I honestly am not sure what I'm going to do with them out of the GPU market.
I spoke with my wallet and bought the z790 classified.
I really hope EVGA picks up on AMD stuff. I would love to have a solid, reliable EVGA AMD motherboard and possible AMD graphics card. The last PC I built was a 5930K system with all EVGA parts. PSU, motherboard and GPUs, which were dual 980ti (that I still have). It all seemlessly worked. I wasn't crazy about the motherboard not having 4 pin fan headers, but I used a fan hub anyway. I'm still holding onto my EVGA 3090ti until its no longer viable or it dies.
I hope so too, but they dropped x570 motherboards from their website. I would love an EVGA AM5 motherboard for my next PC but its not looking good.
The AMD graphic cards are bad... EVGA is just expensive... there are other boards, cards etc. that work as good as EVGA or even better.
@@wiLdchiLd2k Yeah I doubt EVGA could enter the AMD GPU market and compete with Sapphire and PowerColor. If EVGA GPU div comes back it most likely will be on intel Arc’s side
@@wiLdchiLd2k tell me you're ignorant without telling me you're ignorant
Jayz is always so happy when he is handling Kingpin stuff hehe.
Cool to see the new Z790 getting out there for reviews. I was lucky enough to be able to buy one when they launched it during their overclocking stream and so far it's been fantastic.
Beautiful MB, looking forward to see that build.
I wish more motherboards would turn the CPU socket like that. Cause with RAM out of the way air flow can run directly around the CPU.
Do that and only have 2 ram slots.
@@djsi38t for most people not really the problem i think? Ram isn’t that expensive anymore. I got 2x16gb 3200mhz for 40 euros. And well currently dont need more.
64gb as in 2x32gb increase in price is a lot tho. But if you really need that much ram you’re probably spending a lot on a pc anyway so wouldnt really matter that much?
I get your point tho, but i would actually like the extra airflow. Guess its preferences too
Very cool board, even though I don't care much for all the overclocking and tuning things, simply having all those cable management features and space optimizations makes it awesome
My very first build I bought an EVGA board off ebay in addition to 2x evga gcards brand new. The board was physically damaged on arrival and the good folks at EVGA made an exception for me and repaired it for me through rma. I will always remember their service and for that promote them positively.
Love the touch of the kingpin boxes in the back
With how finnicky some DDR5 can be at higher speeds, having the 2 DIMM slots built for overclocking would be a great peace-of-mind feature for anyone wanting to run really fast 7200/7600/7800+ MT/s memory!
The only brand that deserves its price tag - EVGA! Keep it up and even better, if it is possible!
Awesome look, and love the ammount of SATA connectors, but it looks like it will be very challenging to put aircoolers on.
Excited to hear an update on the EVGA tribute build!
i like what they did with the ARGB header and..they got 4 instead of 2 as well!..most boards stop at 2...its not enough if u attach other accessories/strips. Otherwise, even if not overclocking, their port/pin placements are a huge help to QOL, if only other brands learn some sense in designing stuff..
Ram is on top. That is a good idea. I like that placement. Taking advantage of upward cooling. It make a lot of sense with newer cases all being blocked front panels (Glass to see the RGB fans. )
Ryzen 6/7 I might upgrade. I like my 570 board but I am air cooler limited. Ram gets in the way. This looks nice.
Cool!! Looking forward to that build ...
That’s top notch. Definitely would like to see more boards like that.
evga excelled in the main stream GPU market. They could really do the same in the MB market. I wish they would participate more in that arena.
They've been making motherboards for almost 20 years
@@zqzj They've been making niche hi-end Intel boards for 20 years. Mainstream is the opposite of hi-end and niche.
@@stevewatson6839 ok
@@zqzj If they could bring themselves to come down a tier or two, they'd deal Asus a right kicking..
eVGA made some mainstream boards not that long ago. Didn't end up working for them, so they focussed on VGA. Recent years have been a couple of high end boards and that's been it sadly.
It's a highly competitive space (Motherboards) to be in, I get why they push for the top tier, but other brands like colourful are pushing both the very high end and the mid / low end. eVGA are backed up against a wall and don't have much room to move without their VGA department bringing in cashflow anymore.
I really liked Jay's comments about the board plus the modern history of mobos, some of which Id missed because its been something like 15 years since I built a new machine~
(i went from an Opteron 1200 series to a Ryzen 5, its a hell of a leap...)
Id love to see EVGA making AMD mobos for AM5 and beyond...maybe something down in the lower price tiers so the average builder can get one....(with 3+ NVME slots pls)
Looking good Jay. Love the glasses!
All mobos should have all the power connectors together. It makes it look better, and, I’m, guessing better for instillation.
KingPin EVGA GPUs RIP :'(. I f**king loved those GPUs...
The only time I was unhappy with an EVGA product was a Z97 board (I think it was an FTW), and I had 3 straight RMAs for the m.2 slot not booting. Bought an ASUS and no issues. It'd be cool if EVGA launched a more mid-grade motherboard, but it is also cool that they are leaning so hard into the enthusiast market.
Omg that is the most beautiful board I've ever seen. Another amazing kingpin product that I can only drool over in videos.
I think it's neat to see a mobo with power
eset switches on them. An old trick that I used though for mobo testing outside a case was that I salvaged a power
eset switch from an old case I tore apart. Just needed to plug it into the mobo headers and I was good to go.
Can also just touch the power pins with a screwdriver brother. But ya the old case power switch trick is cool. If ya can be bothered to get em out the case, if ya have a spare case, alot dont I guess.
If evga launches an am5 board, I will swap mine without a second thought. I've had a z77 stinger in daily operation for 10 years with no hiccups. I will gladly do the same with future evga boards.
I probably would consider this if they made one for an AMD. Though I'm not completely decided on going AMD or Intel when my build my next rig in the Summer time, it's very likely going to be DDR-5 AMD.
I would go AM5 because you can buy AM5 motherboards with PCIE5, which currently is not utillised by eiter m.2 or GPUs, also AMD has said to use am5 platform next 5 years at least, (am4 got extendet from the planned 5 to 8 years). So this means if you buy a good AM5 motherboard now you don't need to upgrade motherboard for a long time.
i would go with amd, their socket usually lives two or three times the normal life of an intel socket, so you can buy it now and in 4 years upgrade to a much better cpu without changing half of your pc
@@solmesteren Didnt corsair just announce there MP700 or something like that, I only just caught a snippet of an advert the other day. But it said 10,000mbps or 10GB/s i believe which can only be Pcie GEN5 right? But I dont know if there out yet. Like I say, I didnt catch it fully. But either way, crazy speeds and the way there kicking Generations out is insane, only feels like 2 minutes since Pcie GEN4 was announced.
@@Adamgreen735 they are calling for up to 10,000 read and 9,500 write with gen5. key words up to. and yes it seems like gen4 came out last month.
For me AMD vs Intel will be completly based on how 7000X3D cpus perform
Really hope they come out with an AM5 socket. I'm running an AM5 build right now and would love to get this board to replace this early-adopter gigabyte b650.
Im old and did my last overclocking on the last DFI LanParty Motherboard made, I miss DFI, the kingpin reminds me of those boards.
Thanks for good vids as always . I was thinking about if EVGA could help some other less know GPU companies so Navidia and amd could get some competition. Could also be fun to see other GPU manufacture (if there is) out there.
As long as EVGA is trying to do the right thing for consumers, I'll absolutely shop their products first. Thank you for not doing the same price gouging during the crisis as the others.
Great, Please remind the performance physical looking so awesome it's reliable.
Where ever Vince ends up, I won't be far behind. I would kill for an AM5 vince board. Hell I want to find ac many of those "test bench layout" boards as I can and make a wall.
If there was one way "GPU Art" could come back in a way, it would be taking the clear window idea from the early 10s cases and putting it behind the motherboard that only had the necessary structure for the standoffs so you could see the back of these beautiful boards and still hide cables, would give people more of an incentive to modify and customise them in their builds!
I just finished a build for a friend with the Z690 Kingpin motherboard. First time I ever touched liquid metal for cooling. I was giddy proud how it turned out. I just wish that EVGA motherboards had more support with RGB software.
One day you will grow up and out of making your PC look like a Christmas tree.
Still using Z390 Dark and I am looking at it through the DG-86 window every day. Their Dark motherboards are extremely well built and look amazing!
Kingpin stuff is always awesome ❤
EVGA's motherboard division only brought 3% to the company because there are not a lot of people who would pay 800$ for a motherboard, 800$ for the one that you presented and there's another one at 700$ the EVGA Z790 CLASSIFIED. IF they were to make cheaper boards at 200-250$ boards people would buy them due to the excellent quality EVGA provides.
Their AM4 boards are no longer present on their site and on Amazon they still cost over 500$...
Hey EVGA put the Z690 Dark KP on sale. Well worth it to save some. Still pricey, but EVGA smokes ASUS on motherboards from my experience.
@@PDXCustomPCS Not at that price LOL
Most people don't need anything more than 200-300 (and the 300 ones are overpriced).
@@fluphybunny930 "Most." Very specific bud. I mean PC's are only used for gamers. SMH.
I really like the enthusiast stuff, sadly most of it is waaaaaay outta my price range for motherboards and not something I'd practically use most of. Really wish EVGA had some cheaper options for more "Normal" use cases.
Whatever you do next, I hope we get to see as much of the build process as possible and I hope it has lots of cool pipes.
Going to be getting my hands on one of these for my next build.
I really hope EVGA sticks around in the market. They sound like a great company, and their products are usually top-tier.
Would love to see EVGA making AMD/AM5 boards as well.
Only two slots RAM where are more?
It is more stable with just 2 sticks, so nobody would use the other two even if they were there. This is an XOC board, not a production PC board.
I have both x570 dark and z590 dark, I can’t wait to get the z790 on the test bench
Legend jay love you guys
EVGA is one of few brands I hear sincere favorable reviews about.
Haven't had the chance to upgrade my old DDR3 gen rig and not looking forward to be in the tail end of AM4/DDR4 gen hardware.
So I'll be saving to buy something that both lasts a good several years while not everything outdated once I require one new component.
I plan on supporting EVGA in any endeavor they start doing . So far I have one of their PSUs ... Quality company for sure !!
Thank you
Only two EVGA boards I own are an X299 DARK (Runs my plex server) and my SR-2 Classified Dual Socket board.
I've got a 13900k in a z690 MSI Unify-X. Wish I would've waited for the K|ngp|n version, but I'm happy.
I need to definitely pull that classified out and play with it.
I love EVGA but I don't think their motherboard strategy is working. Making niche $600+ board is not going to sell. They need to make mid range products like B760 or B650E to get the market's attention. If they don't do that, then I fear that the mobo division won't be around for much longer.
@@96kylar without low-mid end, you wouldn't even have top end. You think a $800 mobo going to sell more volume than a $300 one? Halo products are just bragging right.
There are quite a few issues for EVGA this hardware generation. Aside from the obvious lack of GPU sales, they're releasing boards for Intel's chips that have been out for a few months.
Coupled with no board for AMD yet, they're releasing them into a relatively mature cycle. Not sure how many would want to buy them.
Hopefully next time they'll be released earlier.
The dark board isn't for the average user. It's like a KP GPU. It's designed around xoc. When it's released has no bearing on the xoc market.
The dark and the Asus apex are really the only two purpose made exotic cooling boards.
no offense but this product likely isnt for you if youre not willing to wait on it/youre bringing this up. its not for the everyday user.
I know exactly who it's for, but 3 months into a product life cycle like this is a HUGE amount of time, and it's not just that time we're talking about.
People at the top of XOC have had access to the CPUs for months due to their partnership with MOBO manufacturers. If you think they're going to drop that amount of time, effort and money to start again on a new MOBO then you're wrong for the vast amount of them.
The majority of people actually buying this board would be those wanting the best but not be XOC'ers. I'd bet that the majority of those people will have also already bought a MOBO and not want to sink extra money.
I'd love to see EVGA make some non-enthusiast boards that compete with Asus Prime series. I'd happily pay an extra $30-$40 for an EVGA board in exchange for knowing that if anything goes wrong they'll take care of me, but as of now like... their boards all kinda give me an ultra-enthusiast vibe.
I don't know anything about the motherboard industry or supply chains, so it's conceivable that a company like EVGA simply cannot compete on price on more budget boards, but if it's at all possible I'd be stoked.
That's another marketing move. They don't expect it to go wrong under warranty. After that it's your problem. Most of the card last warranty period anyways
Yeah, definitely need those dip switches❤
Happy to see EVGA still makes products after breaking ties with NVIDIA
Motherboards aren't a nvdia thing.
They never saying they were going completely out of business! LOL
They’ve always been making products. That was just their GPUs.
I still have little confidence in them. They’re probably going to go out of business soon.
@@UltralifeTech they aren’t, gpus have a very low profit margin, sometimes they even lose money from gpus so they are probably aren’t doing too bad.
I'm rooting for you EVGA!
My all time build from an asthetics was the EVGA SR2 with a custom hardpiped water loop......back in the dayyy i tihnk it was the X5690 CPUs i used. EVGA makes awesome stuff.
Loved the dual socket was insane back in the day.
Previous insane dual socket was the Abit BP6 W/ Dual Celeron 300A's at 550MHZ, another crazy build setup.
Great video, Jayz! I wanted to put an EVGA Z790 Kingpin in my new build, but the guys at Lian Li told me it most likely wouldn't fit in my 011D XL without some modifications. Went with an Asus Strix Z790-E that's working like a champ.
About MB back.~08:20 Would be nice to see build, with some case existing case places cut outs and glass side panel with some lights. I think, next level!
I would love to see a build that’s like gold and kinda olive green-ish like the armor on the motherboard that’s water cooled with gold fittings and black tubing idk what case though.
Beautiful board, simply beautiful.
im loving my x570 EVGA FTW MOBO. although some of the inputs were at right angles instead of head on and i had to use a dremel on my case in a few places to create space for plugging in cables. gonna keep my 3080 rtx EVGA ftw3 ultra in there until they get back into making gpus
They needed the box cooler in the inductions because manybover clockers keep the same board for 1 or 2 generations and first boot is with the crap cooler
Can't wait to see the build with this MB
It's meant for extreme overclocking not putting it in a case.
At 12:45 EST February 5th. Newegg has this board at $500. I know some folks aren't thrilled about that retailer, but it's a great price
That Dark / Kingpin heatsink kind of looks like a mecha arm and the SATA-plugs are the fingies/knuckles.
I do hope enthusiast boards like this sticks around. I will probably never own one myself, since I am not very good at overclocking. But I see the usecase and "need" for them to exist.
Nice Presentation
That board would look good in the singularity computers case since it is all acrylic and would allow that beautiful back to be shown
I wish to have such supportive USB with mobo for years now....excellent move and I hope more OEM will follow...
yay, motherboard reviews!
I won a Z690 Classified from one of EVGA's twitch streams. Still need some DDR5 (and a case would be good too) to use it. But it looks super nice. And lots of fun stuff to play with on it. Someday I'll be able to use it...
Really wanting to upgrade to an AMD x3d processor later this year. Hope evga enters that sphere for motherboards so I can make a purchase from them on this build.
I want that MOBO...Im building another PC so this is gonna be my next built...LOVE IT!
Just upgraded to an EVGA power supply, and have decided to use EVGA for hardware whenever possible moving forward.
Quality company deserves quality support.
That's probably the coolest mobo I've seen. I'd like to do an AM5 build on that as well
Very cool I have a nice X570 setup will wait one more gen till next full build for me and I love EVGA have a MB and Video card from them oh also a PSU.
Gorgeous! EVGA hits it out of the park!! AGAIN!!
I still have an EVGA X58 classified in one of my computers. Good boards, only getting better
Ayy uploaded 18 minutes ago, cheers from South Africa, Jayz!
Very nice board. It's interesting to hear the 6 pin power for extra watts to the pcie slots is unnecessary now since I just had to plug mine in on my Asus z690 Hero board to stop games crashing with my 3080ti.
Making the mother of all boards here jay. Can't fret over every chip
Love the different design they made. Looks more logical and cleaner to build.
Passive cooling, Steve. Passive.
Steve?
9:50 - actually liquid cooled cards you mention are usually 2 slots ;)
Always use Koolance QDC's when water cooling. Gen 4 or Gen 6 QD4's with 13mm (1/2in) ID, 19mm (3/4in) OD for best flow (Gen 6 - improved durability, and can operate in a wider temperature range. They are available with EPDM or Viton seals)
I have always wanted a kingpin board, I have no reason for one. But I do love the look and functionality of them. I just don't overclock to that extreme. It was be an amazing board that is never used but looks fucking amazing.
Literally my case the g360A and it it very nice fits everything just wish it had some of those nice grommets and stuff
I love EVGA and Kingpin. I really hope they stay around
Great piece of ingenuity.
Wanted to purchase an am4 board from EVGA to show support until I saw the price. I realise they are mostly made for OCers, which I don't do. Maybe I'll get one for a future build cause of other features I'd lije. We'll see :). In meantime I'll probably get something else they make to show support.
I too wish for an AM5 board from evga. Best board i ever had was my x58 classified, very tough very stable even overclocked for years straight.