Hey, so, I'm the one who requested this episode. Why you ask? Back when Chuck reviewed the _Next Generation_ episode "Shades of Grey," (a clip show) he went on about how there were lots of better, more interesting ways to make a clip show, and that what ended up on screen was bad. Now, I knew _Stargate_ has several clips shows, and they often try to do interesting things with them. So I asked Chuck to review a _Stargate_ clip show that he thought was good, to show that the concept of a clip show can be done well.
Aside from Atlantis Season 5, I think their clip show recaps have been great all around. SG1 expanding the story to explore the political rammifications and even espionage really helped flesh it out, and I think the clip shows that are focused on Earth rather than alien involvement are so much better for it.
Agreed, really like the way Stargate used clip shows, and this is probably the best. If just for Thor showing up and showing while Kinsey is big news in Washington, Thor big swinging political dick is galactic scale. When someone corrects you as "Supreme Commander of the most powerful fleet in three galaxies, and of a race that likes blowing up stars to solve problems" you better back down.
Ah, this era of Stargate SG-1 makes me nostalgic for that time western media portrayed Russians as evil and incompetent. As opposed to today, where the Russians portray themselves as evil and incompetent.
@@kereminde They were evil and incompetent whenever they wanted to take some of the missions away from SG-1, and good and intelligent whenever they gave SG-1 a thumbs up to go do their thing. Which is how the show treated EVERYONE.
@@ravenwilder4099 I don't recall ever getting "evil" from very many human antagonists outside of Kinsey and Simmons. Both were incredibly self-serving and really were just trying to get more for themselves over other people. (... and dear LORD Kinsey was a terrible person.) Woolsey was reasonable, but opposed to the show's protagonists. So we were supposed to root against him, but it was RARE where those decisions didn't make sense. Maybourne also didn't feel "evil" as much as "willing to cross morality lines for a greater good"... heart's in the right place, but method wasn't. I dunno. It was really... really... hard to just flat out point to very many Earth-native characters and go "they're utterly evil with nothing good about them".
@@kereminde You're forgetting the secret Stargate base with Mayborne and at least 2 times Russians got taken over by Goa'uld due to being terrible. Yes, you'd have sympathetic Russian characters too like Colonel Chekov, but they usually became cannon fodder along the way anyway. Including Chekov.
Whenever I watch this episode I always imagine how entertaining it’d be if it had been a crossover with Doctor Who, and the British delegate had been the Brigadier. Just imagine how jaded/nonchalant he’d’ve been hearing about how another alien invasion is imminent, “Oh who is it this time; the Daleks? The Cybermen? The Sontarans? The Zygons? The…” 😂
Well now this makes me want a series/universe where each nation is handling its own unique alien problems and like a council meets up just to exchange notes/solutions. "Hey Japan, thanks for taking care of that Kaiju problem." "No big deal after you got us those laser guns from the little alien tanks. Did those cyborgs bother you Brits?" "Nah, they just needed some batteries that we picked up after Brazil bested that AI. But did you hear about the Americans?" "Still bothering with those snakes out on another planet?" etc
Stargate wasn't a perfect show, but one thing they did really well a lot of the time was distinguish themselves from stuff like Star Trek and its imitators. Episodes like this that get into complex political issues of having one country with secret access to interplanetary space travel, without necessarily automatically demonizing other nations (yes, I know they still screwed up a lot, but work with me here) made for a much more interesting watch. Especially for episodes like this, which doesn't really hide that it's a clip show. This could have been So Boring an episode, yet they managed to make this more than the sum of its parts.
And yet aliens keep trying to invade. You'd think one of these days they'd accidentally run into one of the demon portals and decide to just go back home.
The idea of goauld ground invasion is so fkn funny, they are world ending threat as long as they stay in orbit but these guys would get run over in traffic right after disembarking.
To be fair in every alternate scenario shown, the Goa'uld very much know this. Every time Apophis invades he sits in orbit and nukes cities at his leisure, only sending Jaffa to crack open fortified bunkers, where they win due to sheer numbers.
This does kind of address an ugly truth is the story ever starts back up again. Sooner or later, this will have to go public, and the outcry will be EPIC. But the longer they put that off, the bigger the backlash. Sure, we can use the UK and France to diffuse the public's rage, but that only goes so far.
Some comments on another video in regards to Disclosure claimed the US and Russia shouldn't have told China, France or the UK about the Stargate. Say they didn't and the public found out. It'd lead to one thing. World War 3.
General (actually Colonel) Russian Guyovitch there is in fact, played by longtime British-Canadian actor, and quintessential 'Hey It's That Guy!' Garry Chalk. He's had a long, healthy 4+ decades long career in both acting and voiceover acting, yet I will never not associate him first with Sonic The Hedgehog. Because originally, he played the blockheaded badnik Grounder in the slapstick 'Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog' cartoon, receiving a proooooomotion to being Dr. Robotnik himself in 1999's 'Sonic Underground' before finally cameoing as a military general (ha!) in Paramount's live action 'Sonic The Hedgehog' movie. He wa pretty dang great as the likably unlikeable Colonel Chekov in SG-1... Before they killed his character off at the end of Season 9.
I give SG1 credit for at least trying with the framing devices for their clip episodes. That being said as we saw with DS9: bottle shows can be done without resorting to clip shows.
Sadly, this episode is a microcosm of why we haven't gotten a modern Stargate series. It would be difficult to have action and adventure when a 10 episode run would be mostly humanity bitching with one another for 9 episodes and then a cliffhanger.
One of the better ones for catching you up for the big finale that's coming, and to show why it's done the way it is in universe, which is one of those things you have to be VERY careful with in shows that have a modern setting. It's why Doctor Who keeps running into weird things with its setting sometimes. Ooh, or that time the lady in Power Rangers told a little girl there's no such thing as monsters. And not like, under the bed ones, she's telling the lady, who is the only authority figure she can contact, that an actual monster is wandering around, and loudly announcing its plan to hurt people. And this is a season in the main universe AFTER In Space's invasion of Earth, and in a city protected by a team of known Rangers, no secret identities or anything.
Stargate: an annoying amount of clip shows, but at least some of them were executed very well. Another thing lost to streaming. Aside from saving money, a clip show serves to catch people up when they came in late and syndicated reruns are years off. Kinda pointless in the bing model.
While Season 6 has its issues. This is by far one of the best clip shows. Season 6 is sadly the last really good season of sg1. That isn't to say the rest of the series is bad but its most ok. With writing getting worse and worse with each season. No issue with actors they are doing the best with what they got but the show clearly struggling with ideas at certain point.
This episode is so dated. The russians are mostly friendly and the chinese kind of hostile but not too hostile. Also the not keeping secrets from its people China position would be poorly received these days. I can't even imagine such an episode today.
"US, Russia, and China have the three most powerful armies in the world" well that aged poorly, assuming Stargate Russia army at the same level real word Russia is (You do not get all of Russia army as it was in 2022 issues in only a matter of years)
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*SUPREME* commander.
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Little grey guy carries big hammer.
The Vanir: "Well I didn't vote for you."
You can hear the side eye.
Hey, so, I'm the one who requested this episode. Why you ask? Back when Chuck reviewed the _Next Generation_ episode "Shades of Grey," (a clip show) he went on about how there were lots of better, more interesting ways to make a clip show, and that what ended up on screen was bad. Now, I knew _Stargate_ has several clips shows, and they often try to do interesting things with them. So I asked Chuck to review a _Stargate_ clip show that he thought was good, to show that the concept of a clip show can be done well.
Nice!
You are a true gentleperson and a scholar!
A king among men
Aside from Atlantis Season 5, I think their clip show recaps have been great all around. SG1 expanding the story to explore the political rammifications and even espionage really helped flesh it out, and I think the clip shows that are focused on Earth rather than alien involvement are so much better for it.
Agreed, really like the way Stargate used clip shows, and this is probably the best. If just for Thor showing up and showing while Kinsey is big news in Washington, Thor big swinging political dick is galactic scale. When someone corrects you as "Supreme Commander of the most powerful fleet in three galaxies, and of a race that likes blowing up stars to solve problems" you better back down.
Ah, this era of Stargate SG-1 makes me nostalgic for that time western media portrayed Russians as evil and incompetent.
As opposed to today, where the Russians portray themselves as evil and incompetent.
I don't think they were evil in Stargate... just *opposed*.
@@kereminde And a lot of that opposition was just leftover Cold War tensions.
@@kereminde They were evil and incompetent whenever they wanted to take some of the missions away from SG-1, and good and intelligent whenever they gave SG-1 a thumbs up to go do their thing. Which is how the show treated EVERYONE.
@@ravenwilder4099 I don't recall ever getting "evil" from very many human antagonists outside of Kinsey and Simmons. Both were incredibly self-serving and really were just trying to get more for themselves over other people.
(... and dear LORD Kinsey was a terrible person.)
Woolsey was reasonable, but opposed to the show's protagonists. So we were supposed to root against him, but it was RARE where those decisions didn't make sense.
Maybourne also didn't feel "evil" as much as "willing to cross morality lines for a greater good"... heart's in the right place, but method wasn't.
I dunno. It was really... really... hard to just flat out point to very many Earth-native characters and go "they're utterly evil with nothing good about them".
@@kereminde You're forgetting the secret Stargate base with Mayborne and at least 2 times Russians got taken over by Goa'uld due to being terrible.
Yes, you'd have sympathetic Russian characters too like Colonel Chekov, but they usually became cannon fodder along the way anyway. Including Chekov.
Whenever I watch this episode I always imagine how entertaining it’d be if it had been a crossover with Doctor Who, and the British delegate had been the Brigadier. Just imagine how jaded/nonchalant he’d’ve been hearing about how another alien invasion is imminent, “Oh who is it this time; the Daleks? The Cybermen? The Sontarans? The Zygons? The…” 😂
Well now this makes me want a series/universe where each nation is handling its own unique alien problems and like a council meets up just to exchange notes/solutions.
"Hey Japan, thanks for taking care of that Kaiju problem."
"No big deal after you got us those laser guns from the little alien tanks. Did those cyborgs bother you Brits?"
"Nah, they just needed some batteries that we picked up after Brazil bested that AI. But did you hear about the Americans?"
"Still bothering with those snakes out on another planet?"
etc
@@simplegarak LOL
@@simplegarak I'm a little surprised no one's made that short film yet.
@@peggyliepmann5248 hmm... maybe we should....
Keep dreaming. At least in the short run.
Unfortunately RTD has gone on record expressing his personal disdain for Stargate and its TV iterations. : (
That spiderman clip was my reaction when i first aaw that scene as a child when this episode was first aired.
Same!
Stargate wasn't a perfect show, but one thing they did really well a lot of the time was distinguish themselves from stuff like Star Trek and its imitators. Episodes like this that get into complex political issues of having one country with secret access to interplanetary space travel, without necessarily automatically demonizing other nations (yes, I know they still screwed up a lot, but work with me here) made for a much more interesting watch.
Especially for episodes like this, which doesn't really hide that it's a clip show. This could have been So Boring an episode, yet they managed to make this more than the sum of its parts.
"We could start setting up colonies on Phobos if we felt like it..."
Not that it would be a good idea, unless you want a demon outbreak
And yet aliens keep trying to invade. You'd think one of these days they'd accidentally run into one of the demon portals and decide to just go back home.
PERFECT use of the JJJ “Your Serious?” and also my exact reaction.
Good 'ol Colonel Optimus Primal
You know I didn’t realise that until much, MUCH later!
@@ThomasFishwick The only time I've seen him in live action was in _TMNT: The Next Mutation._ Where he played an _evil_ ape. Totally different.
I had no idea Gary Chalk was playing Colonel Chekov. It never occurred to me that the character might be played by a British actor.
The idea of goauld ground invasion is so fkn funny, they are world ending threat as long as they stay in orbit but these guys would get run over in traffic right after disembarking.
To be fair in every alternate scenario shown, the Goa'uld very much know this.
Every time Apophis invades he sits in orbit and nukes cities at his leisure, only sending Jaffa to crack open fortified bunkers, where they win due to sheer numbers.
@@zephyr8072 Someone must have cracked under torture to show them how to use door handles, elevators and light switches.
I'm suddenly imagining Apophis or Anubis landing in NYC and immediately getting run over by a massive SUV.
@@peggyliepmann5248 Imagine them landing near one of those Egyptian style casinos and losing their ships to some gambler boomer old lady at the table.
@@robertkalinic335 Meanwhile Baal is winning big at the poker table.
This does kind of address an ugly truth is the story ever starts back up again. Sooner or later, this will have to go public, and the outcry will be EPIC. But the longer they put that off, the bigger the backlash. Sure, we can use the UK and France to diffuse the public's rage, but that only goes so far.
Some comments on another video in regards to Disclosure claimed the US and Russia shouldn't have told China, France or the UK about the Stargate. Say they didn't and the public found out. It'd lead to one thing. World War 3.
05:26 My exact reaction to China "not" keeping secrets from its people. 🤣
General (actually Colonel) Russian Guyovitch there is in fact, played by longtime British-Canadian actor, and quintessential 'Hey It's That Guy!' Garry Chalk.
He's had a long, healthy 4+ decades long career in both acting and voiceover acting, yet I will never not associate him first with Sonic The Hedgehog. Because originally, he played the blockheaded badnik Grounder in the slapstick 'Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog' cartoon, receiving a proooooomotion to being Dr. Robotnik himself in 1999's 'Sonic Underground' before finally cameoing as a military general (ha!) in Paramount's live action 'Sonic The Hedgehog' movie.
He wa pretty dang great as the likably unlikeable Colonel Chekov in SG-1... Before they killed his character off at the end of Season 9.
This episode saved so much budget I bet
In spite of it being a clip show it's one of my favorite episodes.
I give SG1 credit for at least trying with the framing devices for their clip episodes. That being said as we saw with DS9: bottle shows can be done without resorting to clip shows.
Thor: "We're not gonna nuke you from orbit just for decommissioning Stargate Command, but you know... [nudge nudge] why take the risk?"
Sadly, this episode is a microcosm of why we haven't gotten a modern Stargate series. It would be difficult to have action and adventure when a 10 episode run would be mostly humanity bitching with one another for 9 episodes and then a cliffhanger.
They already did that with SGU. Except they spent an entire 20 episode season on it because they hadn't given up on full seasons yet.
Clip shows can be great, the Community one is a classic!
One of the better ones for catching you up for the big finale that's coming, and to show why it's done the way it is in universe, which is one of those things you have to be VERY careful with in shows that have a modern setting. It's why Doctor Who keeps running into weird things with its setting sometimes.
Ooh, or that time the lady in Power Rangers told a little girl there's no such thing as monsters. And not like, under the bed ones, she's telling the lady, who is the only authority figure she can contact, that an actual monster is wandering around, and loudly announcing its plan to hurt people.
And this is a season in the main universe AFTER In Space's invasion of Earth, and in a city protected by a team of known Rangers, no secret identities or anything.
"I present to you the dumbest person in Power Rangers!"
Stargate: an annoying amount of clip shows, but at least some of them were executed very well. Another thing lost to streaming. Aside from saving money, a clip show serves to catch people up when they came in late and syndicated reruns are years off. Kinda pointless in the bing model.
While Season 6 has its issues. This is by far one of the best clip shows. Season 6 is sadly the last really good season of sg1. That isn't to say the rest of the series is bad but its most ok. With writing getting worse and worse with each season. No issue with actors they are doing the best with what they got but the show clearly struggling with ideas at certain point.
This episode is so dated. The russians are mostly friendly and the chinese kind of hostile but not too hostile. Also the not keeping secrets from its people China position would be poorly received these days. I can't even imagine such an episode today.
Yeah...
Definitely a bit more optimism/overlooking of less known flaws in frenemy countries.
Of all the clip shows to chose in this series, we get this one instead of Claudia Black proposing they make the show more like Farscape.
200 is an entirely different kind of clip show, though. :)
@@kendrakirai Still a clip show. And it sounds like he got dealer's choice on which episode to do.
@@MrDj232 I mean, not really? It was all clips of things that *never happened* (on camera). Like, the entire episode was new footage.
@@kendrakirai What!? The puppet SG-1 didn't really happen? What madness is this!?
@@Cailus3542 which is exactly my point about it not being a clip show.
"US, Russia, and China have the three most powerful armies in the world" well that aged poorly, assuming Stargate Russia army at the same level real word Russia is (You do not get all of Russia army as it was in 2022 issues in only a matter of years)