I Met a Descendant of a Man Killed by BILLY THE KID - and it changed my view of history
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- Опубліковано 17 бер 2022
- On April 1, 1878 the Regulators, including Billy the Kid, ambushed Lincoln County Sheriff William Brady, deputy George Hindman, and others on the streets of Lincoln, New Mexico. The traditional story is that Brady was a corrupt man in the pocket of the corrupt Murphy-Dolan faction and that Billy the Kid was getting justice for the murdered John Tunstall. The truth is much more complicated than that.
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When we can make personal connections to history it reminds of us of how small we are on the grand scale of everything. It’s a humbling and yet important lesson for everyone to learn. We as individuals are the culmination of all of human history.
Wouldn't such a connection make you feel LESS small? If you could make no connection between yourself and anyone else that would imply such a massive timescale and enormous distance between us that we were completely, individually insignificant. The existence of such connections would kind of have to imply movement in the opposite direction.
@@1971Corwin in a way yes, as we are all apart of something greater (humanity as a whole).
I can just imagine your face lighting up like a kid in a candy store when William told you he's a descendant to Al, what an amazing opportunity to learn the other side of the story on a historic event.
This. This is why I love history, It's one thing to hear about it from people who study it. It's another to hear from people that either lived it, or know someone that did.
That’s why it’s important to listen, especially to previous generations. Everyone has a story and is linked to historical events, either directly or indirectly. Even we are living in history right now.
One of the things I most admire about you is your ability to be so neutral and open to changing your mind from new experiences. Many people would not be willing to change their minds out of fear as being seen as unintelligent. You are a role model for all historians.
This is one of the reasons I love your channel. I grew up is a very conservative family so I had many "stong" right leaning views for most of my life. Only for the past few years have I been able to realize that nobody has all the answers. So I wanna thank you because you've help me see the I have biases and that basically nothing in this world is just black and white. I feel that its help me grow as a person and has help me connect more with people who a younger me would just see as "people who don't know what they're talking about". And this little vlog is a great example of that. Thanks
No matter how badly they want to put a white hat on Brady , he was corrupt and aided and abided in the murder of Tunstal . No excusing that .
Very interesting. As a relative newcomer to the channel I'm delighted to find a channel that looks at history throughout the world and from every period. I have subscribed and joined Patreon. Looking forward to much more.
Thank you Stephen! You are most welcome to our community here.
A UA-camr once told me “everything in history is connected.” It’s fascinating how this contextualizes not just the story around Billy the Kid, but also the Extra Credits series you just did concerning the Potato famine. We heard the appalling numbers about how many thousands died and thousands more immigrated and it is so easy to say “oh they came to America and settled in Boston or New York” and think “end of story”. As you say, everyone of them was their own person with their own story and life and family.
"I have this theory that if one person can go out of their way to show compassion, then it will start a chain reaction of the same. People will never know far a little kindness can go." Rachel Joy Scott, the first person killed at Columbine
Yeah that Rachel’s challenge organization sounds really awesome
Awesome personal connection, Chris. Easy to forget the folks we study and read about were humans with complexity. Hope your day job went really well also.
This is the reason that I love history
Thanks for sharing man. Peace. ✌🏻
What a great story.
Love your perspective and your content. Your killing it.
Very cool video Chris 👍
What a fortuitous experience. To think if events went slightly left or right. But what a takeaway, the thought of it is beautifully haunting, how many William Brady's have come and gone throughout history without the acknowledgement that they deserved.
Awesome video again! @vologging through history, do you think you'd ever be wiling to share one example of the speeches you do at schools?
Brady was a big hand in murdering Tunstal in the first place . Tunstal was murdered first and the law premeditated that murder , that’s a fact and there’s no excusing it . Let’s not get carried away with trying to make him an angel .
Agreed
I believe the regulators were justified defending Tunstalls honor as well the McSwains. I think if I was alive back then, I would have sided with the kid.
That's so cool! These providential experiences make history come alive.
I love new Mexico!! Great state! Got family there and lots of history there. Fun fact, if you go to cloudcroft NM, you can find their local museum where one of my many many great grandfather's Bible is out for display as part of the towns history!!!
That is so cool! This personal connections to history is amazing! I wish I could have those I probably could the most I know was from my great grandmother whom passed almost a year ago. It’s always interesting to hear about the lives of people living through the time periods we learn in school. She told me about how she grew up sharing cropping. And that her school were it was one big school house and the older kids would teach the younger ones. She also talked about how hard it was to keep a household while going to the hospital to learn how to be a nurse. And although she didn’t finish the program they hired her on as a medical aide. My hometown had one hospital in the whole county. Now that hospital she worked at is no longer in service it’s a Reddy Urgent care now. It is literally accords the road from the land that my family’s property.
Excellent video
It's amazing that it's easy to forget we can touch history. We all share the past.
This is interesting. I grew up just down the hill from Lincoln, and I've never once heard that Billy the kid was justified or any sort of a good guy.
I wouldn't call Billy the Kid good. However, he certainly wasn't bad. He had a lot of shitty things happen to him in his life. He also was screwed by the local governments on multiple occasions.
Billy the Kid was awesome!
Like a lot of people in this conflict he was just a dude who found himself involved in something that was much bigger than himself
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Amazing video 🔥🔥
I love the statement you always use, about historical figures being real humans with lives outside of the small parts that were recorded.
so interesting when u look at things from other peoples perspective and what you learn from that
Well, I can tell you that Billy the Kid saved members of my family and was also very close to my family. He did end up dying in my Great Great.... Grandfathers house. Hope you do more Billy the Kid content in the future would love to see it! :)
I had such a great time visiting Lincoln County a couple years ago. A last minute decision to visit and it turned out to be one of the most enjoyable times I've had in a long time. The history of the area is great and I hope to return for a more extensive experience now that most, if not all, COVID restrictions have been lifted.
My parents live in Lincoln for last 27 years i know ol Al great guy
Hey what are the odds right? Really cool might have to read up on the story a little more.
That had to be awesome, running into that chance encounter.
That goes along with something I have noticed more and more in the last years. Oral history, local legends or just local gossip might be unreliable sometimes, but often deliver information and perspective nowhere else to be found. Even if you go to a local event and then read about it in the newspaper it often sounds like a totally different event or at least a very superficial explanation. A lot of common knowledge from "the locals" is just never recorded into a history book or some official sources, so the knowledge just disappears.
I believe if you do come back to New mexico, they have a reenactment of Billy's trial in Mesilla, New mexico at the old courthouse (now a gift shop) near NMSU in Las cruces. You should check that out
It's a fascinating thing that you came across an descendant of one of Billy the Kid's victims, we alwaystend to forget those people. I know this is a bit off topic but the Sabaton Songs Sarajevo and Versailles I'd highly recommend you listen to in one sitting as they are more emotionally hitting for me i bet you'd love it.
So cool!
Thank you so much for sharing this. This is the kind of experience every history buff wishes to get, keep up the amazing work !
Nice to have a story like that fall into your lap huh? I guess it's a good reminder that we're surrounded by history if we just look in the right place. Very interesting.
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Let’s not forget, it was a war and the obviously biased sheriff chose his faction. in fact, had Brady not gotten so closely involved, there probably wouldn’t have been a war.
thats really cool!
Wow! I wish you had more time to speak with him.
Matt Baker at Usefulcharts released a part 2 to his video on the most senior heir of Charlemagne. You should check that series out.
Now I'm wondering if you came to ky school with Rachels challenge a few years back when I was in HS lol.
But this puts this all into perspective on how like, even though this seems like a long ago and distant thing, its not. Its pretty crazy once you think about it.
What school?
Is their a possbilty you can do a intervie with him or make a video with him on his uncle as It would be great story to hear and learn. As well as the possible reaction he has had telling that story
This man fought in the Indian Wars and the Civil War both in combat before serving in law enforcement, very impressive
Glad to have a little context when I tell people to reap the whirlwind.
This doesn’t add much to the conversation but… I’m now 25 years old but sometime in middle school the organization you are a part of “Rachel’s Challenge” visited my school in Long Island, NY.
Brady could have been an honorable man and also in Dolan's pocket. Both things can be true. But this is pretty great to see. What a family history.
Is anyone in history really clean? Good and bad in everyone and everything
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OH WOW, DANG WHAT AN AMAZING STORY
We are a part of history when you really think about it.
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I've been reading up on Lincoln County War bc of a Wm Johnstone book I'm currently reading dealing with that subject. Is it true that Brady was in debt to Murphy-Dolan faction, which led to Brady being a corrupt LEO? That would be a shame, as his life before that point shows that he was a man of integrity and good reputation.
if you want to know the local history of any town or village, ask the locals, because they will tell you stories of their town or village.
Love this. Please follow it up!
Al looks quite a lot like his ancestor.
It's crazy how at the time William Brady was a very respected sheriff in Lincoln and Billy was nothing but a petty horse thief. Fast forward some years and Billy is the most well-known outlaw of all time and Brady is just a pawn in his story. It's fascinating how things turn out.
Nothing but? How little you knew and grossly generalized and over simplified at the time of making this comment. If I had your attitude I would say your a complete moron.
Fortunately I am not, hence the latitude expressed at the end of my first sentence. If you don't agree now then I would be right in saying you are at least a very arrogant person making bold statements that are not factual with little to no schooling in objectivity and yet it is safe to assume you are still more than nothing but my possibly still judgemental friend. You could be of great service someday by excusing yourself because of you may still have a proclivity to bias for one thing. I suggest you watch 12 Angry men and you might get my point if you haven't already.
And Garrett, who ridded the community of Billy the Kid, a murderer that had killed three law enforcement agents in cold blood, is also thought of as a dishonest person who allowed Billy to escape. Ironic.
If William Brady was a farmer who left Ireland during the potato famine I can see why he would treat black soldiers well when he led them.
He likely had personal experience of being treated as "lesser" by british officials and seems like the kind of man that, whatever else faults he might have had, would not treat others like he had been treated.
Yeah my dad once told me how no one back then in the west was totally “good” a sheriff could change up at any moment. One day a good guy and next day riding with a gang. Billy was a murderer through and through. Sure he had a tough life but they all did. Nonetheless it’s still a fascinating story to hear.
Yes, sadly many believe movies and propaganda of old times. There was a lot gang stuff, which in reality was about politics. Often the public view follows newspaper articles or novels from contemporary authors involved in those politics. And often historians are not able to change this view.
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I'm a fan of April fools jokes but murder is a bit much, in my opinion
I figured William Brady was a figure not much different than Wyatt Earp. They have to earn a living for themselves and they wind up involving themselves in the politics of where they have made home so they end up on a faction or side that opposes another side. Who becomes the hero and the villain is often the result of a multitude of factors and players.
What a great chance of fate.
All I know is your car looks clean.
It’s a rental. Mine isn’t that clean
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Heh, funny to see this video pop up, as my grand uncle took a dna test and found out, our family is related to the man who supposedly killed Billy The Kid.
Well he was a corrupt officer regardless of his family
Yes he was! He released Evans, Morton, and Baker from jail, specifically to kill John Tunstall. I mean they shot unarmed man in cold-blood.
Yee haw
Really has no bearing on just how hugely corrupt he was. After all it was his posse that murdered Tunstall.