How gangs keep inmates safe | David Skarbek | TEDxWarwick

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  • David Skarbek is an award-winning author and lecturer of Political Economy at King’s College London. His research has examined how people define and enforce property rights and trade in the absence of a strong, effective government.
    His book 'The Social Order of the Underworld: How Prison Gangs Govern the American Penal System' examines how inmates create self-governance institutions to promote economic and social interactions behind bars.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx

КОМЕНТАРІ • 872

  • @Pirategod23
    @Pirategod23 5 років тому +2831

    Did a white guy just convince me to join a gang?

    • @Cyrx686
      @Cyrx686 5 років тому +106

      Comments like this are the ones that make me cringe.

    • @Pirategod23
      @Pirategod23 5 років тому +301

      My job is done.

    • @AAllen-br8it
      @AAllen-br8it 5 років тому +63

      @@Cyrx686 Mission Accomplished. Pack it up, soldiers. We're goin home.

    • @Niamhmusicmusic
      @Niamhmusicmusic 5 років тому +6

      Lmao

    • @mattyy101
      @mattyy101 5 років тому +47

      Why pick out his race? Throw a bunch of ghetto people into russia an they will get mauled.

  • @theteaman9720
    @theteaman9720 5 років тому +1218

    I have to get up for school in 2 hours

  • @ThatOneRightThere
    @ThatOneRightThere 5 років тому +795

    Those charts clearly outline the different stages of prohibition in the United States. The "spikes" in that data directly correlate to the initial Alcohol Prohibition and the "War on Drugs", both of which are ineffective in treating the issue of addiction.

    • @TheIronWristFighters
      @TheIronWristFighters 5 років тому +57

      I know right. You mean dog-piling dangerous people in a cage doesn't help them mentally? Well who woulda thought? Good job once again government. Here's your yearly salary

    • @qv8281
      @qv8281 5 років тому +27

      Iron Wrist Fighters isn’t it great when the prison system is privatised and then the prison industrial complex ensures through lobbying that more and more people are locked up.

    • @sodaft5678
      @sodaft5678 5 років тому +14

      Those spike actually correlate with the privatisation of the prison system.

    • @prsee5969
      @prsee5969 5 років тому

      100%

    • @augustgreig9420
      @augustgreig9420 5 років тому +10

      @@TheIronWristFighters Worse, it turns desperate, traumatized, poor, mentally ill and addicted people into dangerous people, as prison culture requires violence, aggression and lack of empathy and compassion to survive. The California prison system is the worst in the country. It's where you can go in with a DUO and end up with a life sentence just defending yourself.

  • @Prestonesfpv
    @Prestonesfpv 5 років тому +210

    Wauw, thats nice... get locked up for a small bag of weed, serve your time, and come back in society as a full blown AB hardcore dude..... way to go

    • @Piunti_302
      @Piunti_302 5 років тому +6

      It you haven't already, watch the movie shotcaller.

    • @samuelwoods164
      @samuelwoods164 4 роки тому +3

      @@Piunti_302 that's the one with the guy from GOT? Yeah that is a good movie and been confirmed by a few UA-cam ex cons as the most accurate representation they have seen.

    • @samuelwoods164
      @samuelwoods164 4 роки тому +2

      @Wojak Feels yeah I guess there probably is, I couldn't confirm or deny but Shaun Attwood said its the most accurate representation and he spent years in the Arizona penal system. All those guys you speak of can only speak of their experience too, I imagine things differ state to state and even prison to prison.

    • @samuelwoods164
      @samuelwoods164 4 роки тому

      @Wojak Feels did the guys you saw say there were more accurate movies?

    • @picanterojo6945
      @picanterojo6945 4 роки тому

      There’s a movie called felon, for me this movie was based on true events that took place in California prison system.

  • @ausnetting
    @ausnetting 5 років тому +597

    So to stay safe in the US prison system, you have to commit to a life of crime? “Epic” doesn’t seem to be descriptive enough of the level of fail here.

    • @Spider-Too-Too
      @Spider-Too-Too 5 років тому +11

      there is a pretty cool movie called "shot caller" staring jammie lannister

    • @yankeeyankee5
      @yankeeyankee5 5 років тому +5

      Owen Bunny nikolaj coster-waldau, not jaime lannister

    • @augustgreig9420
      @augustgreig9420 5 років тому +22

      Yeah, check out Wes Watson's UA-cam channel. He did 10 years in California and he's very intelligent and charasmatic. He explains how it works and how you basically have no choice.

    • @trollwayy5981
      @trollwayy5981 5 років тому +1

      I think he’s over hyping it. You do not have to join a gang and many don’t in prison.

    • @evanlarsen574
      @evanlarsen574 4 роки тому +6

      Trol Way You don’t have to actually join a gang but you definitely have to stick with your people and do work for your people

  • @mathewgill3058
    @mathewgill3058 4 роки тому +266

    You'd think that with the amount of times this guy mentions California he would be a member of the red hot chilli peppers

    • @ljgarrison6910
      @ljgarrison6910 4 роки тому +2

      Maybe he can't stop because he thinks he's gonna win big?

    • @jbridges4530
      @jbridges4530 4 роки тому

      Because it’s only in California and neighboring states. Research

    • @eugenius6519
      @eugenius6519 4 роки тому +1

      Or the eagles.

  • @tobiasunbekannt3541
    @tobiasunbekannt3541 6 років тому +442

    the first time i hear "success" and "american prison system" in the same sentence

    • @VectorNodes
      @VectorNodes 6 років тому +2

      Cause he's a total cop sucker

    • @captainducker175
      @captainducker175 5 років тому +11

      The American prison system is a long way from success. I just used success and American prison system in the same sentence and im not defending the prison system either

  • @nickjacobs422
    @nickjacobs422 5 років тому +155

    This dude looks like an amalgamation of the 3 main ncis actors. gibbs mcgee and dinozzo

  • @texasboy9018
    @texasboy9018 6 років тому +228

    Dont borrow or let anybody give you anything. Treat everyone with respect, mind your business

    • @manylittlefish693
      @manylittlefish693 4 роки тому +2

      Yes!

    • @RaggaBaby
      @RaggaBaby 4 роки тому +1

      Words of a true G

    • @marclou4228
      @marclou4228 4 роки тому +10

      This will get you very far. However, if you go to prison in California, you're joining a gang. Don't get it twisted.

    • @PKFlashBeta
      @PKFlashBeta 4 роки тому +3

      Also don't do drugs or basically have any addiction to substances, and don't be a pushover.

    • @JustMarty
      @JustMarty 4 роки тому

      This man has done time.

  • @tylerbaldwin3269
    @tylerbaldwin3269 6 років тому +77

    So if there are two gangs in prison that fight with each other, you can either join one of them for safety but risk being attacked by the other, or just stay out of the gangs, but risk getting attacked by both. 10/10 would crime again.

  • @origamiandcats6873
    @origamiandcats6873 4 роки тому +45

    It's the reason chickens were such a good candidate for domestication. The farmer doesn't have to do anything but provide food and shelter. The organization of the chickens is managed by the chickens internally.

    • @VestinVestin
      @VestinVestin 4 роки тому +6

      Now, sheep on the other hand... They respect the authority of a dog.

  • @lucifercaligula646
    @lucifercaligula646 8 років тому +498

    school closed the prisons open.

    • @ethanabelar
      @ethanabelar 6 років тому +3

      HAAAGGH!

    • @DeosPraetorian
      @DeosPraetorian 6 років тому +19

      The system broken, the school is closed, the prison's open

    • @harageilucid4352
      @harageilucid4352 5 років тому +12

      Rage against the machine said it best back in ‘99
      “Ain't it funny how the factory doors close
      Round the time that the school doors close
      Round the time that the doors of the jail cells
      Open up to greet you....like the reaper”

    • @grosom31
      @grosom31 5 років тому +4

      Yeah schools don't make profit though!

    • @xbrus1132
      @xbrus1132 5 років тому

      Is there any difference though

  • @00Noontide
    @00Noontide 5 років тому +89

    If they don't follow those rules they would get their wigs split.

    • @NickTheSwordsman
      @NickTheSwordsman 5 років тому +25

      Or their cheeks busted

    • @matthewsantana9472
      @matthewsantana9472 5 років тому +1

      By Wes Walker of DayGo

    • @jovialpunch
      @jovialpunch 5 років тому +5

      @@matthewsantana9472 Wes Watson

    • @Cheatrrr
      @Cheatrrr 5 років тому +7

      matthew Pasculli
      Where’s your paperwork

    • @SL4US
      @SL4US 5 років тому +12

      Big herc 😂

  • @alabamboa8153
    @alabamboa8153 4 роки тому +26

    I guess Epstein never saw this talk eh

  • @drewajv
    @drewajv 4 роки тому +25

    "It's a mistake to think they're the root of the problem rather than a symptom of the problem"
    Couldn't have said it better myself

  • @travelingjohn69
    @travelingjohn69 6 років тому +207

    This is the most articulate explanation of prison life I ever heard.

    • @novajames6871
      @novajames6871 4 роки тому +3

      travelingjohn69 it’s also completely wrong

    • @1Polomanralph
      @1Polomanralph 4 роки тому +3

      I wouldn’t trust it. You should ask someone who actually been

    • @jaimep456
      @jaimep456 4 роки тому

      Have u ever been

    • @jaimep456
      @jaimep456 4 роки тому

      Wes watson is a youtuber who describes prison in the most detailed and accurate way I've ever seen all while being very entertaining.

  • @swine13
    @swine13 4 роки тому +35

    0:40 - "id like to invite you to think.."
    Ah yeah sorry bro i have plans that night

  • @onlyonecannoli3952
    @onlyonecannoli3952 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Captain Obvious. Thanks to you, and only you, it all makes sense now. Overcrowding bad. Illegal things happen in prison. Too many prisoners, so gangs can operate to regulate behavior and engage in the same criminal behavior they engaged in prior to coming to prison. But what you failed to mention is that if you fail to pay a debt, you may get greased by your creditor, get pimped out to work off your debt, get put in check by way of getting shivved, shanked, or green-lighted resulting in a backdoor parole.
    I always had a feeling that gangs were the good guys in the prison system. Thank you for affirming that belief. Now I understand that they are there to preserve the order of things and are only doing so because of the overcrowding that has frankly left gangs with no other choice but to step up to fill this void. Thank you and the gangs!!!

  • @timbomb374
    @timbomb374 5 років тому +33

    Not exactly what hes talking about but It's a strange thing that the larger your community the more issolated you feel, i don't think the human mind is designed to be arround so many people you dont know personally

    • @forgefathereli8354
      @forgefathereli8354 4 роки тому +1

      I think this is why people in big cities are more depressed than rural Sub Saharan Africans who make less than a dollar a day.

    • @gufosufo337
      @gufosufo337 4 роки тому +1

      @@forgefathereli8354 i think thats more because they are too busy trying too survive than getting diagnosed with mental illnesses

    • @SoldoutforGod21
      @SoldoutforGod21 4 роки тому +1

      I just left Chicago 8 weeks ago after living there for 6 months. 80,000 people in the 4 sq. Miles of my zip code. I got depressed and moved back to Alaska. At least when people are around you in Alaska they either love you or hate, but rarely ignore you.

  • @willdog3
    @willdog3 4 роки тому +5

    Its crazy to me that people can incur debt in prison. You get fed, housed, and you can buy stuff in the commissary. Its not like you need 500 bucks from a friend to buy an espresso machine. I guess drugs are the only real answer, but you KNOW that guards and staff are getting paid to let drugs in. Its a horrible situation. Drug addicts, should be in rehab, not housed with murderers and gang members. The fact someone may have to join a gang for life just because they smoked weed or something is just absurd to me. We need prison reform.

  • @neutronpixie6106
    @neutronpixie6106 6 років тому +152

    A shame more prisons don't use the same method Norway does. It's insanely effective and makes all other prison systems look medieval.

    • @Damo2690
      @Damo2690 6 років тому +7

      Which is...?

    • @librivoxaudiobooks8710
      @librivoxaudiobooks8710 6 років тому +1

      STFW.

    • @reconhunt
      @reconhunt 6 років тому +12

      They don't have the capacities to pull off something like that, they have way to many prisoners

    • @librivoxaudiobooks8710
      @librivoxaudiobooks8710 6 років тому +19

      Change the maximum sentence to 21 years and suddenly they don't have way too many prisoners.

    • @miniwarrior7
      @miniwarrior7 6 років тому +10

      @@librivoxaudiobooks8710 21 years for murder?

  • @princeofnilevalley6578
    @princeofnilevalley6578 5 років тому +10

    It's sad the fact that, this could be easily fixed within a decade, but there are some wicked people who rather make $ of the suffering of misguided people. I'd expect this in a ancient civilization, but not in 2019...

    • @jimfoley8014
      @jimfoley8014 4 роки тому +1

      We are fallen and will never have heaven on earth.

  • @ukdnbmarsh
    @ukdnbmarsh 5 років тому +79

    The M.O - Put everybody in prison by law, then force them to work as private slaves for no money.

    • @Fizz-Pop
      @Fizz-Pop 5 років тому +11

      Yeah the system in the USA is basically a slavery racket. That's why that nation locks up more than anyone else, coz it makes money.

    • @jdc4316
      @jdc4316 4 роки тому +1

      Bob England that wouldn’t be socially acceptable.

    • @conormartin3476
      @conormartin3476 4 роки тому +3

      H it is socially acceptable because they’re “criminals” which for some reason now have no right to freedom. The prisoners also make 90% of the gear their overfunded military uses.

    • @jdc4316
      @jdc4316 4 роки тому

      conor martin Let’s not get ahead of ourselves mr Martin, it may be socially acceptable to you but that’s not the case for the general public, not in this day and age.

    • @jdc4316
      @jdc4316 4 роки тому +1

      Ah right. I misread. A week ago when I read this I thought it was suggesting that we turn prisoners into slaves. Apologies sir.

  • @markgavrilov2727
    @markgavrilov2727 4 роки тому +28

    The movie Shotcaller. If this topic interst you, is exactly for you.

    • @namelyne782
      @namelyne782 4 роки тому

      White dudes aren't really strong like that in Cali prisons no more

  • @jamjox9922
    @jamjox9922 4 роки тому +3

    This is a great presentation; this along with "When Do I Stop Being a Criminal" show just how ineffective prison systems in America have become. I'm not sure they were ever very effective in rehabilitation, but they sure dysfunctional today.
    That big spike in prisoners in the 80s is due to the War on Drugs--which was an utter failure because it had an unrealistic goal of keeping drugs off the streets. Drugs have always been there, they always will be, banning them has never worked--but politicians were looking for easy dramatic policies, not ones that would actually work.

  • @avisheart
    @avisheart 4 роки тому +24

    Why would I ever study for my finals which happens to be in 5 hours when I can attempt to watch every single ted talk I possibly can

  • @acsfivepall1261
    @acsfivepall1261 5 років тому +23

    A point he conveniently leaves out regarding the 5-fold prison population growth rate from 1920 to 1970 6:10 - That state's population rose from about 3.6 million to 19.9 million during that same time-frame. This is approximately the same percentage-wise, a 5-fold increase, thus no real growth rate at all.

    • @vulpine3431
      @vulpine3431 5 років тому +10

      That fact has nothing to do with what he is discusing. He is explaining why the code failed. The fact is that prison inmates increased. Why that happens doesn't matter. What matters is that it happened, and that played a major role in the fall of the code.

    • @AGfrom83
      @AGfrom83 5 років тому

      @@vulpine3431 bingo!

    • @kidaniels8199
      @kidaniels8199 5 років тому

      Good CO.rective analysis

    • @rimacidih9350
      @rimacidih9350 5 років тому +3

      You are comparing something that doesn't matter. Think about it. If 10 guards are protecting 100 inmates that doesnt mean it was be the same difficulty for 100 guards to protect 1000 inmstes .. The more inmates the harder to control all even if the population increases the same...

    • @Farvadude
      @Farvadude 4 роки тому

      the population of california only rose that much during that time as a result of mass immigration. mass immigration from non-white, non-east asian countries. you left that part out. probably on purpose. perhaps because you don't like the truth it betrays.

  • @JohnDoe-ir2ft
    @JohnDoe-ir2ft 5 років тому +26

    I am a technician by trade. While I was incarcerated in the Florida state prison system. I installed LED lights in radios as well as repair headphones ect. I was a popular guy to say the least. And it isn't nearly as bad as everyone makes it out. Convict code still in effect in florida.

    • @ecstazyrm
      @ecstazyrm 5 років тому

      Share with us a story!

    • @OHYS
      @OHYS 5 років тому

      only if youre able to defend yourself

    • @xFliox
      @xFliox 5 років тому

      I want to hear about it more brother it sounds interesting asf to say the least

    • @jbridges4530
      @jbridges4530 4 роки тому

      Florida is NOT CALIFORNIA

    • @jbridges4530
      @jbridges4530 4 роки тому

      UA-cam FRESH OUT. WES WATSON. Lockdown 23&1. You’ll learn everything

  • @WereDictionary
    @WereDictionary 5 років тому +15

    So.
    Technically the 1960s code didnt fail, it had to adapt and these days, its about groups of people rather than individuals.

    • @omgitsjoetime
      @omgitsjoetime 5 років тому

      WereDictionary the groups have distorted code since not so smart people or people with nothing to lose have taken power.

    • @Farvadude
      @Farvadude 4 роки тому +1

      mass immigration initiated by the INA of 1965, nixon's failed war on drugs, and clinton's crime bill are what caused this. it's right there in the graph at 8:11 and the timing and scale of the increases doesn't correlate to the U.S. population growth rate. the convict's code worked before mass immigration began in the mid-60s and before nixon and clinton engaged in phony solutions to cover up the real problems caused by their politics and the policies their parties both espoused.

  • @india7680
    @india7680 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks YT for letting me express my thoughts. It's the best feature. Sometimes I just want to know what people are saying.

  • @patrickridge2890
    @patrickridge2890 4 роки тому +1

    So someone COMMITS crimes, and goes to prison. They continue to COMMIT crimes inside prison with CONTRABAND which is against the RULES of the prison. So they CAN'T ask the GUARDS for HELP because they need HELP for COMITTING a crime with CONTRABAND .so they rely on each other for PROTECTION because they are Criminals and are criminally minded!

  • @elijahgrimm8052
    @elijahgrimm8052 5 років тому +1

    Problem is, the gangs are entrenched. The prison population numbers in the millions. How do you get rid of those gangs and scale back the prison population? Getting rid of laws that send people there for non-violent offenses is one big step. But again, what to do with those who are already there?

  • @gregdahlen4375
    @gregdahlen4375 5 років тому +15

    like how he offers a solution, or partial solution, at the end

  • @ndugudeath1700
    @ndugudeath1700 4 роки тому +1

    I’m not sure but I don’t think this guy is totally sure on what he’s trying to explain. All the graphs n figures n the world can’t compare to actually being susceptible to c.d.c. We like sociology test subjects to them. Self deprivation. High stress environment. Dehumanized emasculations drug induced water soft peter the list goes on.

  • @aeneis116
    @aeneis116 4 роки тому +1

    There is a lot about what he speaks to hear which is relative to certain understandings that do apply but not distinctly across the board. For one the Californis prison system has its own dynamics that dont apply accross all systems. Ive been to prison twice and I can say the promise of saftey is a recruiting tool gangs use. However, the reality is quite different gang affliated members are much more likely to face and participate in violence as a qualification of membership. I would say that parity within mulutiple prison games E.G. a balance of power does lead to less violence as in a cold war mentality but they in themselves consistantiy contribute to violence in that they insulate people from sufferingon an individual basis the asocial behaviors that got them encarcerated in the first place. This is why their dynamics lead to reencarceration. While I personally never had the security of hiding behind a gang and this in itself was dificult. I montired my own bahavior and was succesful. While crash dummies in gangs who did not moderate their behavior often caused conflict for everyone in the group.

  • @ettringite99
    @ettringite99 4 роки тому +1

    It'll get worse, rising inequality, population growth, poor drug policy and a profit driven justice system will make these issues worse.

  • @hisenadedo
    @hisenadedo 4 роки тому +1

    “If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.” This phrase explains the prison system and belief of free will. However, most people are idiots and take guilty pleas whether they committed the crime or not. It’s not a secret which drugs are illegal .

  • @r3koFresh
    @r3koFresh 4 роки тому +1

    How about giving them contraband/some freedom, safety and actually treat them like human beings ?
    You want a better person to come out of prison and not a gang member who hates society due to the bad treatment he gets

  • @Dano-uf8ys
    @Dano-uf8ys 5 років тому +8

    This guy was never in prison and has no idea what goes on. Sometimes guards conspire with inmates to take someone out.
    Overcrowded prisons should be illegal and the government should crack down on over population in for profit prisons.

    • @MatEGSS
      @MatEGSS 5 років тому +2

      Have you been to prison?

    • @omgitsjoetime
      @omgitsjoetime 5 років тому +1

      Dano1947 for profit prisons are insane

    • @crashbash8549
      @crashbash8549 5 років тому +2

      Have you been to prison?

    • @TmanTheTdog
      @TmanTheTdog 5 років тому +1

      I’m noticing that the OP still hasn’t acknowledged whether or not they’ve been to prison

    • @jumbo4billion
      @jumbo4billion 4 роки тому

      @@TmanTheTdog notifications are pretty random, sometimes you just don't get them

  • @Quesadla
    @Quesadla 4 роки тому +1

    Ill be back to finish this, Pewdiepie finally played PHINEAS AND FERB.

  • @davidparker9676
    @davidparker9676 4 роки тому +2

    Prison populations are so large because they do not execute the ones they should. What is the point of warehousing someone with a death sentence or a life sentence? Get it over with.
    Rehab the ones that you can, execute the rest.
    Simple.

    • @CaptainCopwatch
      @CaptainCopwatch 4 роки тому

      the death penalty is what drives people to shoot out with cops rather than do time.. killing prisoners is half the reason your countrys screwed....

  • @hamiltonarraou4399
    @hamiltonarraou4399 3 роки тому +1

    The loose temper molecularly check because manicure acutely tumble of a separate guatemalan. disturbed, rainy bangle

  • @michaelspoto8720
    @michaelspoto8720 4 роки тому +1

    ban for profit prisons. certain things should not be incentivized. like locking ppl up and health care.

  • @mzamethodman7134
    @mzamethodman7134 4 роки тому +3

    Criminal Code: Dont Steal
    Irony

  • @Cubepusher88
    @Cubepusher88 5 років тому +8

    American Exceptionalism... strong prison gangs and high incarceration rates? Did he just say that?! lol

    • @PhilNEvo
      @PhilNEvo 5 років тому +1

      Yeb-- he's not wrong :b

    • @natestewart3245
      @natestewart3245 4 роки тому

      American Esceptionalism doesnt always mean that America is the greatest country on the planet. Sometimes it just means, "this is something that is incredible unusual about America"

  • @SunnyDLux
    @SunnyDLux 6 років тому +18

    Anyone ever seen American History X?

    • @kandaharenglish2595
      @kandaharenglish2595 5 років тому

      Ando Commando put your jaw on the curve

    • @timm_3r
      @timm_3r 4 роки тому

      You ever seen American Me?

    • @namelyne782
      @namelyne782 4 роки тому +1

      American history x prison scenes were super fake

    • @jbridges4530
      @jbridges4530 4 роки тому

      Absolutely fake

  • @Plukitas
    @Plukitas 4 роки тому +1

    We are being taught about gangs by a 45 yo white American with hair loss. smh

  • @michaeltrinh4394
    @michaeltrinh4394 5 років тому +8

    "Big Stan"- Rob Schneider, dealt with this.

  • @owenfitzgerald3219
    @owenfitzgerald3219 6 років тому +19

    His first line explains why the U.S.A. is NOT, The Land Of The Free!!!
    That's a big problem too, if you're not allowed to interact with the different kinds of people you can segregated and possibly bigoted toward different people's in the prison.
    The prison system in the U.S. is BIG business.

    • @timanabaker2781
      @timanabaker2781 6 років тому +1

      Being an outsider looking in a completely agree USA seems extremely unfree compared to the 4 1st world countries ive lived in

    • @Satanthony
      @Satanthony 6 років тому

      Tim B it's more like if you get pulled into "the system" your freedom is lost. There is little to no rehabilitation and your criminal record follows you for life and pretty much excludes you from a regular life here in the U.S. If we manage to stay out of this system we get all those freedoms you've heard about.

    • @timanabaker2781
      @timanabaker2781 6 років тому

      +Salpsan I've been incarcerated in two different countries I'm free as a bird

  • @maxparviz18
    @maxparviz18 4 роки тому +1

    This guy sounds like the lock picking lawyer

  • @sanataissick
    @sanataissick 4 роки тому +2

    It's an old video but I really want people to appreciate the way he spoke, straight to the point and stated the facts, conclusion, the end. Yet delivered them with such clarity and such expertise with so well thought-out sentences and structure that this alone kept the listener captivated and interested and carried a listener who doesn't know anything about the subject (me) so well from beginning to the end that anyone can understand absolutely everything he wanted to communicate. These days ted talks have so much pressure to be "new" and "fresh" and surprising and mind-blowing and uplifting that all the effects the presenters try to use cloud the real content and instead of new information I leave the presentation with just the feeling of information. Every public speaker should study this lecture, every voter should listen to this message and every politician should prepare to explain themselves if they act otherwise.

    • @rickwrites2612
      @rickwrites2612 5 місяців тому

      TED X IS NOT TED. ANYONE CAN MAKE A TED X. That's the point of it.

  • @donramon8348
    @donramon8348 4 роки тому +3

    He looks like this one agent from prsion break... feel like im onto something

  • @alexjacobs3441
    @alexjacobs3441 5 років тому +6

    FPI - Federal Prison Industries, cheap reliable labor.

  • @weezyman8203
    @weezyman8203 5 років тому +20

    I don’t know how I feel about this. I mean, I loved the lecture but at the end it sounded like a pitch to build more prisons 🤔

    • @purplepenguin43
      @purplepenguin43 5 років тому +11

      A key point here is He never covered why there was a huge spike in prison population because the answer is the “war on drugs” which is something that requires a whole another ted talk.
      This ted talk is about treating a symptom of a problem.
      Imo every set of problems is going to require set of many solutions. Reforming the prisons to allow for better rehabilitation is a small but necessary step on the way to improving the current set of problems.

    • @weezyman8203
      @weezyman8203 5 років тому +1

      EpiicPenguin I agree 100%

    • @michaelb6349
      @michaelb6349 5 років тому

      I'm glad you commented cause I wasn't totally paying attention to that last sentence. Very true

    • @jimfoley8014
      @jimfoley8014 4 роки тому

      Netflix.

    • @MrTerapak
      @MrTerapak 4 роки тому

      well that is what he says, even if the US would put alot less people in prison, to have better and smaller prisons should be on the agenda aswell

  • @dabsindeeddabsindeed7205
    @dabsindeeddabsindeed7205 Рік тому

    Not true . Gangs prey on people and extort them in prison. I was locked up at 15 until 28 . You mind your bis. Have respect and stand up for yourself. You will be just fine longd your not a chomo

  • @christopherwoods9830
    @christopherwoods9830 4 роки тому +1

    So I can put on a suit and state the obvious and get on Ted

  • @BizarreObscure
    @BizarreObscure 5 років тому +2

    OR.... stop imprissoning people for life cause they stole bread 3 times and gets a huge sentence cause society demands it.

    • @Farvadude
      @Farvadude 4 роки тому

      that doesn't happen. you're completely naive to what's causing this.

    • @BizarreObscure
      @BizarreObscure 4 роки тому

      It looks like it does... and saying people are naive wont change anyones mind, let alone mine.

    • @Farvadude
      @Farvadude 4 роки тому

      @@BizarreObscure the massive spike in the graph that you see at 8:11 began well before the clinton crime bill that established the 3-strikes rule. not to mention, stealing bread wouldn't qualify as one of those strikes. how do you explain the massive increase beginning at least 2 decades before the clinton crime bill if you're so sure the 3-strikes rule is the cause?

  • @jr-md3gx
    @jr-md3gx 5 років тому +2

    Or they can just not act like wastes of life, and go to prison. You know, the other option.

  • @harborarealifestyle6068
    @harborarealifestyle6068 6 років тому +2

    If you never been to prison I believe you shouldn't talk about it, people will never understand the actual politics until they really hit the fan or some real ex con tells you himself how life is in the joint.

  • @hugewangsan3060
    @hugewangsan3060 4 роки тому +1

    I am a british national who was imprisoned in the us and i wish when people ask how did you do it i want them to watch this

    • @alejandroperez6032
      @alejandroperez6032 4 роки тому

      Mitchell worboys did you join a gang in prison?

    • @hugewangsan3060
      @hugewangsan3060 4 роки тому

      I stayed close to the white people

    • @alejandroperez6032
      @alejandroperez6032 4 роки тому

      Mitchell worboys Did they ever have your back the time you were there? Also, did you get scare the first day you went in?

  • @davec.3198
    @davec.3198 5 років тому +1

    There should be no one but violent offenders in prison. People who break laws without causing physical harm, should not be behind bars. They need to be working off their debt another way...like working and paying a fine.

  • @LittleRainGames
    @LittleRainGames 4 роки тому

    Trust me, gangs are not keeping anyone safe. Go to a Canadian jail, still gangs but thry arent organized. Way safer.

  • @C_S_funhouse
    @C_S_funhouse 4 роки тому

    Watch Kyle's (AKA FPSRussia) prison stories PKA, it's a podcast where he tells what happened when he went to prison, reeeeally freaking interesting on what he experienced. Mainly you dont NEED to join a gang, it's just who you know and how you conduct yourself.

  • @eddymartinez4224
    @eddymartinez4224 5 років тому

    If you enjoyed this check out a talk show on MyTcnTv UA-cam channel called hope in the 6ix. A discussion about issues within the criminal justice system with Lawyers, Counsellors, Ex Offenders, Police, Victims and their family members impacted by crime etc... About what they are doing to make a difference in their communities. A must watch. I myself was a ex cop who now am making a difference by helping offender make a change in their lives.

  • @garyschraa7947
    @garyschraa7947 4 роки тому

    I understand your angle being about governance but there is much you missed about this social network . It's also VERY big on hygiene and health and physical upkeep of yourself . It's called "programing" . It's important for every individual to utilize this time to make yourself a better person because you owe it to your family , your friends , your comrades , your brothers . You cant just get locked up and be a slouch or a bum , or a dirt bag . You must program or get a routine . i.e. Get up make your bed , press your cloths , brush your teeth , go out to the yard and start a workout routine [Routina dog] is something you might hear if you have not tried to take care of yourself . Your area should be mopped and if you have no one on the outside supplying you / you can only get respect and some of the extras needed to survive if you have a hustle . Artwork , tattooing skills , sewing skills , barber skills , . And you must educate yourself . And something else that no one realizes about prison inmates ________ They are AVID readers , books of all kinds , huge novels , whole series' . And lastly _____ they don't lose there humor like the outside world has . . . . they get their humor back , and they laugh more , it is a necessary process tto healing and sanity in a crazy situation

  • @LabrnMystic
    @LabrnMystic 6 років тому +5

    The volume seems a bit low. Interesting topic.

  • @bon12121
    @bon12121 6 років тому +10

    UA-cam Sean Atwood and see how this guy has the arrow absolutely backwards. Sean spent years in each level of AZ prison. TED talk has '200 year sentence' in the title.

  • @Etherion195
    @Etherion195 4 роки тому

    He truly is a wonderful speaker that manages to pull everyone on his side, even though the content of his statements make fun of his listeners. A perfect example is this:
    13:51: "These are two potent examples of american exceptionalism". He clearly calls it "exceptionalism" instead of "utter failure", which it actually is. That way, he doesn't directly insult the listeners and supporters of this cruel system.

  • @memegazer
    @memegazer 4 роки тому

    Joining a gang because you want protection from another gang is not what I consider "gangs keeping inmates safe"

  • @1Polomanralph
    @1Polomanralph 4 роки тому +2

    In capitalism, order is always maintained for profits and not benevolence 😂😂😂

  • @garyj449
    @garyj449 4 роки тому

    I agree that there should be a change in policy however, there is a hole in is logic. Statistically speaking, he is saying they are locking up way more people, which is correct. What he forgets to mention is the overall state Population. California is one of the most populated states at around 55 million people. So a measly 100k to even 900k or more people is around the same percentage as before. Not to say I disagree with fixing the private prisons because they are a huge problem.

  • @brandonherrell5349
    @brandonherrell5349 4 роки тому

    If your found to be in a gang in prison. Or going in as one. Should be 23 hour lock down. By yourself no contact besides guards and people that are there to help them change their lives around. And if they don't. 3 chances strike 3 your out of here. Permanently. Gangs in certain cities stay in the gutter cause certain judges, politicians, and prob certain officers want them to stay so they can use that violence to scare voters on their side. 3 strikes unless violence is used in the crime like murder, torture and crimes like that. Sorry 1 strike your done. And yes when I say your done that means death penalty. Got to have a punishment that rivals the crime that was done.

  • @matthewatwood1060
    @matthewatwood1060 4 роки тому

    Jails & prisons should provide inmates with cannabis & psilocyben. Something on the order of an ounce a week of the former & monitered sessions-both in groups & individual sessions-for the latter; every three months, starting with a few grams & increasing it each time. The cannabis really should be in edible form, rather than smokable.

  • @WWTormentor
    @WWTormentor 4 роки тому

    Does nobody want to discuss the elephant in the room???
    The problem with the US criminal system is that we have tens or hundreds of thousands of inmates that are doing long prison sentences where they know they will never see the light of day. So why should they care about the safety or wellbeing of anyone? So what will another murder do? Add another ten years to you four consecutive life sentences? Anyone that has a sentence of more than twenty years should automatically be executed. When people have hope that they will eventually get out, they are less likely to screw up in prison. That’s how you make the prisons safer. Now that won’t stop all violence but at least 90% of it. Just imagine the amount of money saved when we don’t have to keep Charles mansons Alive or unabomber alive or any other criminal that will never get out.

  • @bigg2phillips480
    @bigg2phillips480 4 роки тому

    Government makes laws against drugs but cant keep drugs out of the prisons. Think about that. Only law abiding citizens follow laws. So you can make all the laws u want an criminals can refuse to follow them. There is nothing government can do until government actually catches the person or they kill or hurt someone so the law actually did nothing to protect the law abiding citizens

  • @TheShamefurDispray
    @TheShamefurDispray 4 роки тому

    This stuff is all just the result of a breakdown of social trust and cohesion as a result of integration, changes in immigration policy, and later the "war on drugs" (increasing drug use/deaths of despair themselves generally being symptoms of the former 2 factors)

  • @ThreeDaysOfDan
    @ThreeDaysOfDan 4 роки тому

    the incarceration number is skewed, we have pre-trial detention which is not common in many countries AND have a large chunk of undocumented individuals we have imprisoned awaiting deportation, No other country on earth has a mass illegal immigration issue. when you factor in for this we are actually mid tier. I have a masters in CJ.

  • @A_Sidewalk
    @A_Sidewalk 4 роки тому +1

    this talk felt so foreign to me it reminded me of that onion skit about a guy talking about the cigarette economy in prison changing from x amounts of blowjobs to y amount of blowjobs.

  • @jimmyp9105
    @jimmyp9105 4 роки тому

    This observation can be seen in the real world to. Big cities have less sense if community then a smaller city/towns.......... also america Is a melting pot of all kind of people, more diverse the demographic, the more different gangs you will have and the us population in general Is one the largest.

  • @Morphineck
    @Morphineck 4 роки тому

    If you think the private prisons are the only problem that needs to be solved, you need to consider that those public prisons also need guards, also need food, also need medical supplies, also need communication services, etc. And let's not forget that a large amount of lawyers and judges are needed to keep the machine going. This will go on forever.

  • @David-ur4mp
    @David-ur4mp 4 роки тому

    He started by saying that the reason prison guards can't monitor what's going on in prison is because what goes on in the prison is illegal (contraband phones, drugs, etc.). Obviously other things go on as well that are perfectly innocuous, but we're missing the point.

  • @patc1309
    @patc1309 4 роки тому

    I've been to prison. You will be severely beaten or killed if you don't have protection from a gang. If you try to go it alone and just keep to yourself....good luck! Dead man walking

  • @rickwrites2612
    @rickwrites2612 5 місяців тому

    Its the same reason we went from egalitarian hunter gatherers in bands and groups under 150 ppl, to hierarchical agricultural clans organized from the top down. You get more than a couple hundred people you cant go by personal reputation.

  • @kimberlyhoward4032
    @kimberlyhoward4032 3 роки тому

    Huge community thugs in America, dude it’s not just gangs in prison you have PROFFESSIONS doing gang work in America.

  • @djsvideodiarys
    @djsvideodiarys 4 роки тому +2

    Oh. So Prison is like Geopolitics. This is a prison planet.

  • @datsdatloud
    @datsdatloud 4 роки тому

    He said gangs under mind rehabilitation. The justice system is what under minds rehabilitation, then society after the prisoner is released under minds it. The gangs are there due to the lack of protection from CO's.

  • @blitzblutz
    @blitzblutz 4 роки тому

    Watch the fantastic film Andersonville about the American Civil War prison,
    And you'll see why the prisoners need an internal security for themselves.

  • @rooneye
    @rooneye 4 роки тому

    There should be no way for them to form gangs. Keep them in their cells and allow way more visiting time. If no one has anyone to come visit them then they should be sent some sort of councilor/teacher etc. That way they have contact with others it's not like solitary confinement.

  • @Netbase2000
    @Netbase2000 6 років тому +2

    America pleeeeeeze. I enjoy documentarys about gangs but cmon. It could be so easy to solve this problem.

  • @BR-im1nl
    @BR-im1nl 5 років тому +2

    The prison that i was in when i was young. The guards are meaner then the inmates. I had a teacher mr.troop told us that he would witness guards would bet on how many inmates they could throw into the shoe. Sadistic

  • @galacticplastic1741
    @galacticplastic1741 3 роки тому

    Either your "in their way" or you'll be joining them to their main destination,
    cause you don't want someone to be a possible road blocker, might as well let them aboard on the trip & persuade them that its for the better of their selves

  • @Solarlube
    @Solarlube 4 роки тому

    [Prisons are about profit for big organisations! The way to prison in America is dictated by the one per-centers who encourage a corrupt system! ] Corpus Juris!

  • @withlessAsbestos
    @withlessAsbestos 4 роки тому

    The minor exception Bein North Korea. And China doesn’t put people in jail that much because jailing slaves is a waste of money.

  • @joshualupyan519
    @joshualupyan519 4 роки тому

    My Cross-Cultural Studies professor gave us these questions to answer as a homework assignment after watching this video, hope y'all enjoy lmaooo:
    1. What do we learn about cultural development from this talk?
    2. What do we learn about culture from this talk?
    3. How is culture shaped by circumstances?
    4. How are people shaped by culture?

  • @mmmbreakfast2
    @mmmbreakfast2 4 роки тому

    I can't even explain how funny this is. Not because the subject matter isn't serious but this is like a car mechanic giving a speech about farmers lol.

  • @takemetothetop2538
    @takemetothetop2538 Рік тому

    Okay he kinda went a little sideways. Not all inmates are gangmembers. there are woods which are not gang members and we are deep. There are cars and homeboys. He got it almost right.

  • @matthiaskiefer
    @matthiaskiefer 5 років тому +5

    Not being sarcastic, turn this into a movie

    • @AM-sc1oz
      @AM-sc1oz 5 років тому +2

      Take it you've not seen Shawshank Redemption bro?

    • @matthiaskiefer
      @matthiaskiefer 5 років тому

      It’s a prison movie but not similar

    • @cooldude4428
      @cooldude4428 5 років тому +1

      It’s a movie already it’s called shotcaller on Amazon prime

  • @thescentman3678
    @thescentman3678 5 років тому +7

    Such stupidity forbbiding tobacco & workout

    • @omgitsjoetime
      @omgitsjoetime 5 років тому

      Yes and you can’t even get a patch

  • @ziggygunz2447
    @ziggygunz2447 4 роки тому

    Yeah because we created an environment where it's ok to act like an animal, oh yeah I'm sure that's gonna rehabilitate people...

  • @joelhall5124
    @joelhall5124 6 років тому +5

    Gangs are what pose the threat in the first place.