One other slight benefit of a 2x front mech is the ability to quickly shift down (the equivalent of a quite a few) gears, using the front mech when a climb gets suddenly steeper, without any pressure on the system....because the front mech works in reverse, shifting down (to easier gear) is not under tension, as you are going to shorter chain path.
Yes sir. I still cant understand why almost any bicycle has 2 speeds up front. Its much more practical, although it does need more maintenance, its still faster and more practical
Although true, its not a big enough advantage to keep a front mech . Once a rider becomes confident & tuned into a 1x , there's never a need to drop cogs that fast under load. Much like driving a car , if a driver is proficient, you don't need to drop from 6th to 2nd gear in 1.
That's exactly what I do, I don't drive but I understand the mechanics at a basic level at least. The problem is my nephew is learning to drive soon and he's only interested in learning to drive an automatic Apparently modern cars are going that way, all electric cars are automatic anyway...
I still ride a 3 x 7 hardtail, and always back off when shifting up or down ( like using the clutch of a manual gearbox ) to keep the chain parralel and not damage anything during the ride But also thinking of updating the drivetrain to 1 x 12 along the way
What I do to change gears under load is to pedal faster and suddenly stop pedaling. It creates a small window of low pressure, so I change gear and ride slowly for it to change.
Thanks GMBN! After years of problems with my front gear on my ice and snow fat tire bike Surly Pugsly, I had my local bike shop make my Pugsly a single front gear. No more having to fix my chain and gears at -15 C in snow and ice!
I currently have the Specialized Pitch 27.5 16 speed MTB hardtail - 2019 I shift gears like a car because it suits me best for my style, the bike is coming up to 4 years old, the chain is original and is always lubed when it starts to sound dry, and everything works fine even tho I change gear quite often, depending on hills etc. Everyone has different styles of shifting, but for me shifting like a car is right for me
Recently went to a 36 tooth chain ring, up from the standard 32 tooth! Big!!! Difference getting much faster speeds and times. Yeah climbing isn't as easy but again I've actually got faster times on the climbs now too!
I'm used to a 2x system. I'm planning to upgrade my 2x9 to a 2x10 or 2x11 for my hardtail XC MTB. But a 2x12? I think that's too much already, at least, for me. Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #KeepBiking
on changing gears under pressure and changing gears in general, I generaly prefer to change gear BEFORE my circumstances change (I need to slow down for a corner, going to speed up downhill) I find, that I much rather do the gear change in advance so I have stable bike in the corner, downhill or uphill. What I mean by that, is I will change gear to a slower one before I take a corner where I know I will be dropping speed, so I can start pedaling away better. Same with going uphill, I get to the needed gear and prepare to grind the hill. I dont know if it applies for full-sus, Im a newbie on a "trusty" hardtail. P.S. AND IM LOVIN' IT! Stay safe, see ya out there (:
Hey! That can be really good for your drivetrain, as it prevents you from having to change gear under high load. Thanks for the support and safe riding! 👍
Do the pros, including yourself count gears?? Meaning, do you always know what gear your in and keep track as you shift up and/or down?? I just told myself I need more, or, I need less power, lol
With 1x setup I thought about at the beginning of usage but now I am like you. I don't care what gear it's in when its the right gear for the climb/descend :)
Just the video I was searching for earlier! Cheers GMBN!! Does shifting while the cranks are vertical help at all? I was thinking about that after a few crunchy changes climbing the trails yesterday.
Thanks for the support! Glad you found this one useful. It shouldn't make a lot of difference. Changing gear under high load will always sound a bit more crunchy if you're in a high gear. 👍
Are GMBN covering The Algarve Bike Challenge this weekend in Portugal? Fantastic Proper XC (not round and round a course) event over three days. I'm in Portugal and heading there on Friday for the night time prologue street time trials.
Can you do a video on clipping in and out of clipless pedals. Is it wrong to clip out twisting your front of your feel or does it have to be heel twist
What about electronic shifting under load? There will be no lever tension feel. Is there a higher risk of drivetrain damage with such groupsets? Thanks!
@@th_js doesn't work like what? my point is electronic shifting handles shifts without the rider having to pause momentarily as with mechanical shifts; from Shimano.. 'Di2 gives you instant, accurate, lighting-fast shifts the first and every time, at the push of a button. Even in the most extreme conditions, shifting is precise and controlled. You can change gear even under heavy load while climbing or accelerating.'
First, I don't have electronic shifting from either brand and I'm very familiar with the high quality cable actuated systems. Second, I was simply asking if the electronic servo that mechanically drives the chain location into gear is smart enough to know when the chain is under load (or not) before shifting. Third, I don't agree that this has nothing to do with the video and comparing automobile transmissions to bicycle cassette and derailleur transmission is not exactly equivalent, same concept but completely different mechanically. How this turned into a debate/argument with pompous like responses is just sad. Have a good day to all.
No issues with assembly for me ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L but I could see where some might benefit from using an experienced bike assembler/mechanic. I'm an older rider starting back after a 10 year break. This bike exceeds my capabilities and has been easy to get comfortable riding. I'm mostly on easy trails with almost no street riding and have not been disappointed with the performance of the bike. My fitness level is far below what I previously rode with and because of that the mileage is going on the bike slowly. While I'm losing weight slowly, the bike seems to tolerate my 220 pounds just fine. The bike has been used by several family members ranging from 5'5" - 5'9".
What is with the pink helmets? You guys lost a bet or something? With GCN or E-GMBN? Or Poc just overproduced pink helmets and it later turned around that not as many girls are ridin?
One other slight benefit of a 2x front mech is the ability to quickly shift down (the equivalent of a quite a few) gears, using the front mech when a climb gets suddenly steeper, without any pressure on the system....because the front mech works in reverse, shifting down (to easier gear) is not under tension, as you are going to shorter chain path.
Yes sir. I still cant understand why almost any bicycle has 2 speeds up front. Its much more practical, although it does need more maintenance, its still faster and more practical
Hardly ever need it though and it's more weight an maintenance all hail the 1x drivetrain
I use a 2x drivetrain and I love it. In my opinion it really helps climbing when you can drop a huge ratio off with one push.
Although true, its not a big enough advantage to keep a front mech . Once a rider becomes confident & tuned into a 1x , there's never a need to drop cogs that fast under load. Much like driving a car , if a driver is proficient, you don't need to drop from 6th to 2nd gear in 1.
I use the analogy of a clutch in a car when explaining shifting under load. Seems to usually get the point accross.
That's a good way of looking at it! 👍
That's exactly what I do, I don't drive but I understand the mechanics at a basic level at least. The problem is my nephew is learning to drive soon and he's only interested in learning to drive an automatic Apparently modern cars are going that way, all electric cars are automatic anyway...
Wouldn’t get the point across here in the US, it is really hard to find a manual here.
@@zimmejoc well that sucks
I still ride a 3 x 7 hardtail, and always back off when shifting up or down ( like using the clutch of a manual gearbox ) to keep the chain parralel and not damage anything during the ride
But also thinking of updating the drivetrain to 1 x 12 along the way
What I do to change gears under load is to pedal faster and suddenly stop pedaling. It creates a small window of low pressure, so I change gear and ride slowly for it to change.
Dream terrain, Sun, dry, no mud, wet leaves, hard packed, or little loose.....Viva Espana!
Thanks GMBN! After years of problems with my front gear on my ice and snow fat tire bike Surly Pugsly, I had my local bike shop make my Pugsly a single front gear. No more having to fix my chain and gears at -15 C in snow and ice!
No problem! Thanks for the support! Haha, We bet that's a lot easier to maintain. 😂
I currently have the Specialized Pitch 27.5 16 speed MTB hardtail - 2019
I shift gears like a car because it suits me best for my style, the bike is coming up to 4 years old, the chain is original and is always lubed when it starts to sound dry, and everything works fine even tho I change gear quite often, depending on hills etc. Everyone has different styles of shifting, but for me shifting like a car is right for me
Kool one Rich!!👌👌
I'm always trying to be smooth on the gears, Never Change With Pressure👌💯
Shimano over Sram all day long🤘
Hi Deividas! Thanks for the support! That's a great way to make your drivetrain wear slower! 👊
@@gmbn Cheers guys!! 🙌🙌
Awesome.. I always cringe when I hear loud shifting noises when going riding with my friends. Will share 100%!
Hey Tadej, It's not a great sound is it?! 😅 Thanks for the support and safe riding! 👍
Recently went to a 36 tooth chain ring, up from the standard 32 tooth! Big!!! Difference getting much faster speeds and times. Yeah climbing isn't as easy but again I've actually got faster times on the climbs now too!
36 is crazy.😅 I have xt 12 Speed with 51 cassette and went from 30 to 32 and i am Happy with it
@@dvxShoeN 36 is super different I'm putting down so much more power and higher speeds. But I can't lie the climbing isn't as easy anymore
For winter lub, don't forget the -30c lub for extreme Canadian conditions! ❄️🙃
I'm used to a 2x system. I'm planning to upgrade my 2x9 to a 2x10 or 2x11 for my hardtail XC MTB. But a 2x12? I think that's too much already, at least, for me.
Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #KeepBiking
on changing gears under pressure and changing gears in general, I generaly prefer to change gear BEFORE my circumstances change (I need to slow down for a corner, going to speed up downhill) I find, that I much rather do the gear change in advance so I have stable bike in the corner, downhill or uphill. What I mean by that, is I will change gear to a slower one before I take a corner where I know I will be dropping speed, so I can start pedaling away better. Same with going uphill, I get to the needed gear and prepare to grind the hill. I dont know if it applies for full-sus, Im a newbie on a "trusty" hardtail.
P.S. AND IM LOVIN' IT! Stay safe, see ya out there (:
Hey! That can be really good for your drivetrain, as it prevents you from having to change gear under high load. Thanks for the support and safe riding! 👍
Do the pros, including yourself count gears?? Meaning, do you always know what gear your in and keep track as you shift up and/or down?? I just told myself I need more, or, I need less power, lol
With 1x setup I thought about at the beginning of usage but now I am like you. I don't care what gear it's in when its the right gear for the climb/descend :)
There's an IBM Watson product which sifts through video and images that are relevant to your dialogue.
I had problems with the deore shifter, upgraded to xt but kep the deore derailluer
thanks
Hope you enjoyed the video! 👍
Just the video I was searching for earlier! Cheers GMBN!! Does shifting while the cranks are vertical help at all? I was thinking about that after a few crunchy changes climbing the trails yesterday.
Thanks for the support! Glad you found this one useful. It shouldn't make a lot of difference. Changing gear under high load will always sound a bit more crunchy if you're in a high gear. 👍
Are GMBN covering The Algarve Bike Challenge this weekend in Portugal? Fantastic Proper XC (not round and round a course) event over three days. I'm in Portugal and heading there on Friday for the night time prologue street time trials.
MUCH AWAITED VIDEO
ENJOY! 🙌
Random I know but here’s a question 4 u GMBN what is the difference between dry live and wet live and what are there more uses?
nice🙂
You're in Madrid!!!!
I use an alivio system and thought that magically deore slx xt and so on would change gears under load without noises. I guess I was wrong.
I’ bran new to mountain biking. Could you think of shifting like a car? Don’t change gear while accelerating?
Hey!! El Telégrafo in Madrid!!
Stick with an XT Groupset and you'll have no shifting worries.......!!
Deore 12 speed is on the level of XT shifting quality all you need for the same feel and performance is an XT shifter.
You still shouldn't shift under load.
of course...thats just for noob's....Ha !!
No derailleur, no problems....
You're not wrong! 😅
Love it also
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Thanks
Those are some pretty big volume jumps from the spoken parts to the music.
Can you do a video on clipping in and out of clipless pedals. Is it wrong to clip out twisting your front of your feel or does it have to be heel twist
What about a range of skills videos? Meaning, what skills do the pros practice? And how do they do it?
Great idea! It would be interesting to see the way pros maybe shift and brake as well. We'll pass that onto the team! 👍
I had 7 different bikelocks on my 2 bikes..mostly u-locks..plus 2 alarms..give a bike theft..greetings if he touch my bikes.
ive never heard of 2x12
It's useless.
Single speed riders: I missed the part where that's my problem
What do you have a chainstay protection? Do you recommend it?
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Hi from 🇬🇧! 👋
I see pink bike helmets are all the rage at the moment 😉
What about electronic shifting under load? There will be no lever tension feel. Is there a higher risk of drivetrain damage with such groupsets? Thanks!
That has nothing to do with this.
That's like worrying about how an automatic transmission changes gears.. the system handles it.
@@petesmitt No. Doesn't work like that.
@@th_js doesn't work like what? my point is electronic shifting handles shifts without the rider having to pause momentarily as with mechanical shifts; from Shimano.. 'Di2 gives you instant, accurate, lighting-fast shifts the first and every time, at the push of a button. Even in the most extreme conditions, shifting is precise and controlled. You can change gear even under heavy load while climbing or accelerating.'
First, I don't have electronic shifting from either brand and I'm very familiar with the high quality cable actuated systems.
Second, I was simply asking if the electronic servo that mechanically drives the chain location into gear is smart enough to know when the chain is under load (or not) before shifting.
Third, I don't agree that this has nothing to do with the video and comparing automobile transmissions to bicycle cassette and derailleur transmission is not exactly equivalent, same concept but completely different mechanically. How this turned into a debate/argument with pompous like responses is just sad.
Have a good day to all.
#GMBN #GMBNTech Completly unrelated but how many bikes does Rich have!?
"always use lube, good life lesson" 😆
Don’t forget to remember the cassette may not be available for us mortals so make it last
I think about baseball so I don't prematurely shift before I need to.
3rd
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No issues with assembly for me ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L but I could see where some might benefit from using an experienced bike assembler/mechanic. I'm an older rider starting back after a 10 year break. This bike exceeds my capabilities and has been easy to get comfortable riding. I'm mostly on easy trails with almost no street riding and have not been disappointed with the performance of the bike. My fitness level is far below what I previously rode with and because of that the mileage is going on the bike slowly. While I'm losing weight slowly, the bike seems to tolerate my 220 pounds just fine. The bike has been used by several family members ranging from 5'5" - 5'9".
Im watching but i dont have bike🥺
Just strained my arm and crushed my balls after a bad gear shift, cant mtb for a week or two
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Wax, all year. And you’ll take my front mech from my dead hands. Doesn’t one by have shitty chain line at the extremes? This is stupid
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What is with the pink helmets? You guys lost a bet or something? With GCN or E-GMBN? Or Poc just overproduced pink helmets and it later turned around that not as many girls are ridin?
Hi Pete, It was the presenter's personal choice to have pink. The colour pops really nicely. 👍
Trash that pink helmet
Apparently it makes you ride faster! ;)
Someone sounds a wee bit insecure about their masculinity
Never shift under load!
There's an IBM Watson product which sifts through video and images that are relevant to your dialogue.